i just saw this film and i was shocked to see that all the women who watch it took summer's side. i dot understand how they can blame tom at all
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>i just saw this film
you're perpetuating harmful manic pixie dream-girl stereotypes, homosexual. apologize
>Still thinking that have souls and the capacity to love anything besides themselves
Flip the genders on this and women will seethe harder than any autist.
They would say we see women only as objects for our pleasure.
You don't?
That's your fantasy. You can even spend 30 years with someone and then she can leave.
Don't use a Lesley Gore song to support your shitty argument, homosexual.
>She went to IKEA and flirted with me so she owes me eternal devotion
You can't have it all sweatie
>You can even spend 30 years with someone and then she can leave.
you say that like it makes less sense.
>B-BOTH GENDERS ARE NOT THE SAME
no shit
>man owns a boat
>no baggage woman
he's crushing it imo
It's because they identify as Summer, the object of some man's fantasy. Every woman has only ever been wanted, they themselves have never needed to want so they can't understand JGL's character.
Very accurate and insightful take but still JGL was a c**t that couldn't take rejection and fantasized life with a waifu that wasn't interested
You never spoke to a woman in your entire incel life
What makes you say that? You think they didn't take Summer's side?
Fricking beautiful. Trannies seething in this this thread thinking “incel” and “chud” have any meaning. They’ll call us “obsessed” next and then go write some seething posts on Reddit.
is this a good film to watch with a girl?
She'll leave you if you watch it together
Tom has somehow made it to 30 without having any meaningless sex. Summer has been run through and was probably molested and just sees sex as a fun thing to do. Summer is every woman you know.
>Tom has somehow made it to 30 without having any meaningless sex
Says fricking who? Your entire post seems like an incel reading a rorschach test.
It’s bizarre that he’s the age he is and still thinks having sex with Summer means that they’re in love
only in this modern world does tom's more pure heart make him the bad guy, absolute state
If you go a little deeper, it's a pretty pessimistic movie, romance and love are death even for women, who are the main consumers of all those romantic movies. And people just see each other as stress relieve pieces of meat.
Literally brainwashed by old Disney and other media. Men are not meant to pair bond, that's why most humans are descended from a few men and the majority of women that have ever lived. You have adopted the feminine position of clinging to a pair-bond because old movies told you to.
>le evopsych bullshit
Alright, you're next for the ol' human sacrifice, will you be removing your own heart or will we have to assist?
humanity wouldn't exist without pair bonding you absolute daft c**t
Women are supposed to pair bond moron, not men. That’s like saying that men should give birth too because humanity needs giving birth in order to exist.
Pair bonding is the only way to ensure fatherhood. Children of single mothers are orders of magnitude worse off than children with fathers.
>what are paternity tests
Besides pair bonding doesn’t even ensure your genes get passed on anyways, if anything it’s actually harmful for a lot of guys. There is a LARGE amount of fellas out there stuck raising Tyrone’s and Chad’s children because they LUV their wifey and their sweet innocent perfect angel would never cheat on them. Wake up and smell the reality man
this but unironically
men are supposed to live on their own, wild and free. no slavery to some ball and chain pulling you down. you work when you want, hunt when you want, eat when you want, sleep when you want, and DO what you want. when you want to mate you prove your strength to a woman through money, looks, or status, you knock her up, then you leave and let her take care of the brat. that's freedom, not wageslaving 60 hours a week then going home to be henpecked and whipped by some harpy b***h who bosses you around for another 60 hours. you might as well cut your balls off at that point, you're a domesticated herbivore b***h.
you can see this in real life too, the most alpha races like Blacks don't let themselves be enslaved by ~~*marriage*~~ and ~~*child support*~~, they knock their women up then run free. you can see the high rates of single moms as proof. in comparison beta cucks like Whites and Asians with low T are all trapped by the matriarchy and the second they hit puberty they just kind of accept that they will spend the rest of their lives as slaves striving for the approval of ugly fat women. in fact the most cucked race, White Western Europeans, actually take pride in being castrated slaves and say shit like "i'm not a stepdad i'm the dad that stepped up", this is the exact mindset that romancegays actually have, that being a feminine b***h to some ugly fat woman is good
>the most alpha races like Blacks
Weak bait
Cope, this is what the average western white “man” looks like in 2022. Yes, blacks are dumb, gross, and violent, but they’re a million times more alpha than the average soimerican
Would bet you have never hunted anything in your life.
Do you even have balls left anymore? Or did your “life partner” make you snip them off for the sake of feminism?
>incel incel incel
Keep seething b***h
>Keep seething b***h
keep projecting autist
So how many times has a woman fricked you for defending feminism on the internet, champ? Zero? Sounds about right. Hey don’t give up man maybe if you degrade your own masculinity even more some ugly fat college roastie might touch you!
am I defending feminism or just making fun of a mentally ill person?
>am I defending feminism
Yes
keep seething incel
Ywnbaw
ywnhaw
Correct I don’t have women I frick them then I leave, enjoy raising MY son stepcuckold
incel larping and postruing is hilarious
the irony of basement dwelling, child grooming trannies calling ANYONE else an incel lmao
more projection
Trannies are literally incels.
trannies think inserting dildos in their butts counts as having sex
weird how you guys think about trannies so much. wonder why
Weird how you spam your homosexualry everywhere, call everyone incels despite yourselves being disgusting mentally ill incels that nobody would ever frick, and then play victim or act like you’re not mad when people call you out. Go dilate or have a nice day. homosexual. We don’t want you here. Keep acting like we’re crazy or projecting, you guys are LITERALLY incels with mental illnesses and you continue to force your way into spaces where no one wants you. Go back to plebbit and jerk off to choke porn you abomination.
weird how you think multiple anonymous people are trannies for no reason. even weirder how much you seethe about being called an incel. must hit too close to home
You’re responses are literally proving yourself to be a troony lmao. You are mentally ill. Just give into the urge and Jill yourself. It would be the right thing to do. Follow your instincts. Cry more.
you're the one crying buddy. sucks that trannies are on your mind so often, you must care about them a lot
Just remember, all trannies are incels (: you will never frick, you will never be a woman, you will never be accepted by a romantic partner. Your mere physical presence disgusts even children.
good thing I'm not a troony then moron. keep seething
Keep pretending you’re not, you’ll always be an incel troony lol that’s why you keep replying homosexual
>that’s why you keep replying homosexual
what's your excuse? making assumptions about anonymous people in order to make yourself mad? you're still wrong moron, keep seething so you can die early
>obsessed
There it is like clockwork.
There are far more literal trannies raiding Cinemaphile than there are sexless straw men. People who “have sex” regularly criticize women. Woman are not perfect beings beyond criticism. Ask some Chad who has fricked ludicrous amounts of women how much he respects them.
you're delusional if you think there are more trannies on this board than sexless dudes
still not wrong homosexual
What are you? moronic?
>humans have more male ancestors than female ones, for every 8 female ancestors we find in our DNA there is only 1 male
>chimpanzees and gorillas, our closest relatives, reproduce in harems where one male impregnates multiple females
>our caveman ancestors are believed to have reproduced this way as well along with most mammals
>literally every society at some point practiced polygyny with men having harems of multiple women until feminism stepped in
>historically speaking rival tribes, states, empires etc. would kill their enemy’s men down to the last child but rape their women instead leading to men having multiple wives
>look fricking outside bro Chads have multiple young hot GFs while incels go decades without pussy
Male pair bonding is literally not a thing. In nature we are polygynous: one alpha male beats out the others and gets to reproduce with almost all the females. As a result women have to pair bond to that one guy, but men don’t pair bond at all. Are YOU moronic?
*have more female ancestors than male ones
Typo
What should I do upon realizing the oh so groundbreaking notion that love is just le heckin reproduction chemicals?
Romantic love IS real, but it’s only for women. That’s what we’ve been trying to tell you for like half the thread. Men shouldn’t catch feelings because that’s feminine loser behavior. You’re essentially being brainwashed to let go of your natural urge to frick hot chicks and instead settle for raising Tyrone’s child with some frumpy fat b***h. It’s like being indoctrinated into a cult, sure faith in religion is a real thing, but you’re letting yourself being exploited because of it.
No you dumb frick , women love men for what they can provide for them(status , money etc) men love ideally(female beauty)
Yes, men love beauty, the problem is that Disney and Hollywood propaganda has told men to wife up 35 year old fat single moms and take care of Daquan’s child for them. In a free world men would realize that this is cuckoldry and only frick actually attractive women (younger than 20) but due to feminist “romantic” brainwashing they believe in insane concepts like “true love” and end up being b***h broken slaves to fat ugly women because she’s “the one” or something.
If he got to frick her, what is he complaining about? What else can you get from a woman? Seems like a win to me and totally not an incel.
>loveless sex
Absolutely disgusting
This.
Your comment is so sad, christ.
That's how it's supposed to work, yes.
>yeah dude, having sex with and doing everything with a woman for a year isn't a relationship
>molestation is fun
You've never molested anyone?
People who have been molested as a child typically don’t think of sex as an adult in the same way as those who weren’t. There’s nothing sacred or special about it to them because their first experience was a horrible abuse of power. It’s most people who become sex workers were molested. Summer, being someone who doesn’t have feelings for any of the people she sleeps with, fits the bill.
A moronic amount of women claim to have been abused
Believe all women! Especially the moronic ones!
>Summer is every woman you know.
Yep.
Was Tom really that old? He can't be.
>Tom has somehow made it to 30 without having any meaningless sex
h-hahahaha, imagine that
do women like guys who wear ties and sleeveless sweaters? should I start dressing like that?
yeah if you still somehow live in 2012
what's hip to wear now?
Black turtleneck and a gold chain
thanks for the tip friend
>dressing up for women
Pathetic
Don't listen to the other guys anon.
Every 18-21 year old guy is currently wearing the exact same ugly, lazy outfit with the moronic zoomer hair.
Spend some time on your appearance and you will be drowning in college girls before you know it.
Girls like:
Confidence
Good looks
Sharp dressed men
It's that simple.
Lmao girls likes black dudes are people who can give them drugs, best when both
That was the hipster look of that time. I don't think it'll work now unless you're in your 30s.
>sleeveless sweaters
I really like well dressedmen, my style is smart casual, and to be honest, what i wear in the office is what I wear for coffee, and when i go to restaurants, i like to look smart.
I also like being a coordinted couple, if im with someone thats really important to me, i live coordinating.
i don´t know but i dress like Mike Patton when he was 24-25 years old and it works fine for me
Millennials used to actually dress pretty nice in their 20’s this whole 90’s retro sloppy crop top look is new
she basically choke slammed his soul into the ground for the bants then gave him hope, took it away, then came to apologise and then did it again and women take her side
Women are irrational and capricious and have to consult nonsense like astrology and tarot cards to figure out how they feel about anything
I earnestly wouldn't call myself a woman hater but it's kind of insane how popular astrology is with women. Not just pop astrology but how many women legitimately believe in that shit. It's actually insane. The closest thing for guys is like maybe crypto but even as moronic as it is, crypto exists in real life and has real effects.
the only reason they like astrology is because they get to read about themselves, they like to read how interesting and special they are (despite their only being 12 types of persona ccording to astrology) studies have shown that more narcissistic people like astology more, its the closest they get to having a book written about themselves
>the only reason they like astrology is because they get to read about themselves,
fricking lol ain't that the truth.
Good observation
True. I wouldn't date another woman with an astrology symbol on tinder, and nearly 50 percent of them here have them.
>woman tells you on day 1 of your involvement that she's not interested in a relationship or commitment
>get mad at her for not wanting a relationship or commitment with you
his problem was he didn't actually care who she was or what she wanted or literally even listen to her when she told him, he just assumed she would decide to love him because that's how romances work
>listening to what women say they want
NGMI
>she's not interested in a relationship or commitment
This is never true though, is it? If the right man appears they will be interested because every fricking human being seeks companionship.
And that's literally what happened at the end of the film. If a woman tells you she's not interested in commitment, that means she's not interested in committing to you.
>If a woman tells you
She could just stop being autistic/sociopathic and start telling people what she actually means, and acting according to what she tells them.
You're the autist you idiot, taking everything at face value
And you're the psycho who wants to play moronic childish mind games. Only one of us should be removed from this world and it's not me.
They're not doing it to trick you you idiot. They just haven't made their mind up and you hang on their whimsical words like a desperate incel
>They just haven't made their mind up
They can grow up and do so then.
This was the coup de grace for the dudes who were angry at Summer for the entire film. She realizes that she does believe in love....but not with him.
Fist through the drywall.
>every fricking human being seeks companionship.
where do you think you are
A site full of people who desperately want companionship but Sour Grapes themselves into thinking they don't and they're "above it" or whatever?
>i am a herd animal normalgay so everyone else is too!
Yes good goy remember to take the vaxx, eat the bugs, live in the pod, watch the capeshit, frick the troony too. Wouldn’t want to be ALONE right?
I would tell you to remember to be a delusional schizo but you're way ahead of me
Seeking companionship is the epitome of NPC behavior, you’re wasting your time and energy for no good reason just because other people told you to. A conformist like that is the same kind of conformist that can/will be shamed into eating the bugs, living in the pod, and sucking troony girldick. I’m sorry you can’t follow basic logic but my post makes perfect sense
>being a moron is good actually
Alright man, but you should really stop posting and go take the third clot shot booster. It’s your duty as a good citizen to flatten the curve and save grandma after all. Health concerns? Don’t be ridiculous you’re a good goyi- err I mean person - right and good people with families and friends take the vaccine.
remt free
Take the 5th annual booster shot anon, you wouldn’t want to lose that precious precious social acceptance right?
>le npc
>le conformist
ah, you're just another homosexual psued that hasn't finished high school yet. There is no point in wasting my time with you anymore. Come back when you're at least 18, friend.
Graduated high school years ago little man. I’d wish that you and yours do the same but unfortunately after taking Fauci’s science juice your children will probably not survive to adulthood due to myocarditis, at least you weren’t a friendless chud though and you did the right thing by getting an untested dangerous injection for a disease about as deadly as the flu
cope with the fact that no one wants to spend time with you in real life
Your insecure reaction to how much you totally don't need companionship ironically proved me right. So thank you.
but their relationship evolved into something nobody could call 'casual' but then she randomly decided that she wants to only do casual and its his fault for thinking they were something more when it clearly was, i guess he dodged a bullet really in a way
>but their relationship evolved into something nobody could call 'casual'
says who? every time he wanted to talk about their relationship and where they were she was completely noncommittal and unwilling to define them as something more. she was never dishonest with him. it's not her responsibility to manage his internal expectations for him when she's being completely straight up with him already.
ok but she absolutley knew how he felt and she completley lead him on at the very least
how is she leading him on if she literally told him she didn't want a serious relationship with him and didn't feel that way about him?
this movie is brilliant because it's deliberately an anti manic pixie dream girl story. it's a parable about the dangers of assuming every romance is going to be like the movies and not understanding that the person you're with is an extant human with their own desires and needs who doesn't necessarily owe you anything just because of what you want.
How is that brilliant? That seems like a pretty shallow message that anyone can write.
>movie love stories are not real man
Yeah no shit.
>How is that brilliant? That seems like a pretty shallow message that anyone can write.
look at this thread and how many people don't seem to understand it and tell me it isn't an important message
>she was completely noncommittal and unwilling to define them as something more.
And there's your problem. If she had been clear when he was asking for clarification on their status that there was never any chance of something more, then maybe I could side with her. Instead, she was mealy-mouthed and totally gave the wrong impression. I mean they were obviously clearly something more than just a frick buddy type of thing. If it was only sex then you could understand, but she made it implicitly clear they were in something more, which at any time she could have cleared up with a single sentence and, more importantly, by cutting him off and saving him from himself.
They have a big fight where he says "friends don't have sex with each other, we're a couple" and leaves
She then returns to him and immediately kisses him - this makes them a couple
That's right I've read it too in the couples law.
Good I accept your concession.
it doesn't matter, nothing is permanent and ownership, especially of PEOPLE, is a fallacy.
Tell that to the blacks.
This is the correct post. Summer warned Tom to temper his expectations from the very start of the movie. He didn't listen.
But over time, the state of their relationship clearly evolved into something bigger than that, by her own admission. It’s reasonable for Tom to believe that he was able to change her, which is one of the purposes of human companionship in the first place.
The only thing she did wrong was invite him to her engagement party without telling him that's what it was, that was fricked up. Other than that, whether you agree with how she's living her life or not, it's not her fault that he ignored her when she told him she wasn't looking for anything serious, and also chose to ignore the signs that their relationship wasn't working and was slowly falling apart
>says she doesn't want a relationship
>starts a relationship anyway
>gets mad when he feels led on
Hurr durr.
Summer's a c**t.
They are both to blame, its two adults that don't know how to communicate. Summer was up front on what she wanted and Tom chose to ignore it to some extent. It was obvious that Tom was catching feelings and Summer still let him go along with it.
>taking sides
Pure midwit takes the whole thread through.
It was a perfectly normal relationship and break up.
Happens to almost everyone.
There isn’t any right or wrong here.
Sometimes you can make every move right and still lose.
>taking women at their word ever
You know how many bawds have told me they don't bang on the first date only to bang me on the first date? exactly 1, because i've only ever been on 1 date. So far it's 100%.
women unironically believe that it's the men's fault for being led on even though they intentionally do it
Calling a girl a tease used to be a common insult but simps and feminists removed it
That's the same as blaming a rape victim for the way she was dressed. They're just blaming the victim.
>Dress like a prostitute
>Get raped
Not to mention.
>Wear a tight-fitting dress with your breasts hanging out
>REEEE don't look at my cleavage! stop objectifying me!
Women never were very good at logic
Well to be fair female are very manipulative and they can push it
I wouldn't argue this occurs with rape 99% of the time but they certainly do get a thrill out of manipulating and hurting men
They know what they're doing but being females, they just keep on going
The problem is women want to be evil and pretend that they're not doing anything wrong at the same time. Playing with people's feelings is not something a good person would do. Is there anything worse than betraying someone who loves you?
There is a hierarchy when it comes to who is capable of being blamed or being a victim. If a man walks through "a bad part of town" carrying expensive stuff or wearing a blingy watch, he'll get blamed for being an idiot. Heck, you'll get blamed for leaving items in your car or not leaving the doors unlocked if some lawyer or engineer breaks the windows.
Not every movie is some touching moment made by a hollywood c**t, generally they just suck. Don't put too much meaning into something where there is none. Why do you care? Do you have a financial interest?
>comes to film board
>doesn't want to talk about film
Many such cases
did you pay for it?
>all the women who watch it took summer's side
>another incel rewriting the narrative
jesus christ can you go be a homosexual troony somewhere else
He did see her as some sort of dream girl straight out of his fantasy while she clearly told him she was not. If you're an adult you can see how harmful for yourself might be living in this manichaeism vision of love, she was not there to complete him, he was supposed to do it himself.
Reading about the state of sexual relations in western countries makes me glad I'm from a conservative Muslim country where most girls remain virgins until marriage.
The thought of having no choice but to marry a girl who has had dozens of other dicks before me is horrifying. Good luck out there westerners.
We just got used to being cucks in the west. Women will probably talk about their hook ups to their children.
Speak for yourself homo, I've heard there's seating at brokeback mounting left just for you
>glad to be a muslim
You shouldn't be
There are virgins and girls with low numbers here too. Most people don't care though.
the only girls i know in the US that aren't massive prostitutes are the nerdy, bland or unattractive asian girls. these girls study and work. they aren't partying or on tinder looking for hookups.
unfortunately even the sweet, modest and kind white women are on tinder looking for hookups every week because they were taught sex is biological function like eating and that they are weird for not having it weekly or monthly.
Do not extrapolate how you perceive your small circle of experience to the entire country.
You're lucky as frick muslimbro.
Good morning I hate women.
This movie unironically made me hate women.
Good thing they didn't make a sequel. Don't need any Ted Bundy Jrs. running around.
Incels like you didn't understand the movie at all lol. The point is that Tom overly romanticized their relationship and ignored everything Summer told him about not wanting a serious relationship scince day one. He was blind and deaf. And if you cannot truly understand your partner, it's a shitty relationship and you only have to blame yourself. You can't force someone to truly love you. So it's important to learn how to move on and not focus on finding a true love™, but instead on a career or hobby like he eventually did.
>You can't force someone to truly love you.
This is actually the gist of the film. It is very rare to find a relationship where both persons are equally into each other.
I understand that art is subjective and your take away is based on who you are and what your experience has been with the subject matter, but look at the thesis statement of the film “This is a story about love but it’s not a love story.” Here’s what that means:
Love can mean a lot of things but this movie defines it as a deep feeling people feel spurred on by attachment to what should be irrelevant information but isn’t because being human is messy. There’s a term in psychology called “priming” where information is given and it informs subsequent experiences. If I ask “what color is paper? What color is a puffy cloud on a clear day? What color is vanilla ice cream?” The answer to all is of course “white”. If I follow those with “What do cows drink” you’ll probably respond “milk” even though cows drink water (calves drink milk but whatever). There was once a McDonald’s print ad with a picture of fries and text reading “Don’t even think about it” That’s priming. When Tom meets Summer in the elevator and the first words he hears out of her mouth are “To die by your side would be such a heavenly way to die” that’s priming. She informs him she doesn’t believe in romantic love but it’s irrelevant because she’s already inadvertently colored in his feelings for her. Then, when they break up and Summer is sitting in a cafe and thinking about Tom insisting love is real right when the man who becomes her fiancé walks in the door, that’s priming. When Tom hears this story and then has his “meet cute” with Autumn, that’s priming. The message of the movie isn’t that either one of these people is more right than the other- it’s that human beings operate on random input and assign meaning to what should be meaningless.
I began reading this thinking it would leave me annoyed but it actually makes sense. Well done, anon.
Summer is still a prostitute for leading him on with such beautiful The Smiths lyrics.
Meaningless and random to you maybe. There's a reason behind our supposedly meaningless behaviors. She wasn't that into him but he was super into her and wouldn't get over it
>some women just want to have a bit of fun too, nothing serious
who would thunk it?
I haven't watched this movie, did she already have a boyfriend when she met the protagonist or not?
no, then she breaks up with him saying she doesnt want to be in anything seriuos and then gets married to another guy less than 6 months later (she also invites tom to the engement party without telling him thats what it was when he still clearly loved her with all his heart)
Oh what a poor misunderstood woman.
>she also invites tom to the engement party without telling him thats what it was
I've never seen this meme movie, but does this seriously happen?
Yes.
Pretty cool film,
Now lets remake it and reverse the genders.
>let's remake it and reverse the genders
>Stephanie Meyer writes a battle harem
Twilight is essentially just a reverse harem
She tells him she doesn't want a serious relationship with him but he goes all in anyway. IIRC the movie runs a montage playing back how some interactions throughout their relationship really went, and it shows how blind he was and that he read way too much into their situation.
I've been exactly there, had a relationship with a much more experienced girl fall apart after a year and at the time I was confused and heartbroken, but looking back now I can see all the signs - the growing distance, the small moments of aggro. At the time I was completely blind to it but now it makes so much sense.
I empathize with JGL's character but he was naive. Deschanel's character has some blame but she warned him from the start.
Men will never understand how women can be such coldhearted b***hes because largely men are normal average people with human emotions, so when you encounter someone who flirts with you, fricks you, goes to Ikea to pick out furniture for your future apartment with you, you tend to assign a charitable interpretation to all those things, no matter what "caveat" she gave in the beginning, because a normal human being would grow fond of another normal human being during the course of such a courting period.
I think reality women are the ones who see the opposite sex as objects.
nah bro you're just a fricking idiot. if she says she doesn't want anything long term then she doesn't. have you not seen the I CAN CHANGE HIM/HER meme?
>if she says she doesn't want anything long term then she doesn't.
Then she can grow up, learn to be a functional human being, and start being consistent in word and deed. It's really not that hard.
Ah yes because women never say the opposite of what they want at all
>a normal human being would grow fond of another normal human being during the course of such a courting period
Real life doesnt work like that. Sometimes the spark fizzles out, and it can be one-sided.
The fact that she moves on and marries a guy after six months isn't her being a prostitute, it's a reflection that sometimes another combination of people will just work on a different level than they were.
>The fact that she moves on and marries a guy after six months isn't her being a prostitute
Yes it is
>Real life doesnt work like that. Sometimes the spark fizzles out, and it can be one-sided.
Yeah, and then you inform the other person as soon as possible instead of stringing them along for a year, moron.
Women can and will eject from any commitment if they feel they can get a better deal somewhere else.
men NEVER do that
Toastier detection.
Women initiate 80 percent of divorces
source?
Black person just google it,
damn I didn't expect such reputable sources as divorcesource.com and r/mensrights
There are plenty of real stats to support , not surprising you didn’t didn’t bother to look further, than the screen shot.
Here you go homosexual
https://web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/Rosenfeld_gender_of_breakup.pdf
thanks for linking a real source that says 69% and not the 80% that was claimed you fricking moron
>H-hah it's only 70% and not 80%! Take that Nazi!
Pro tip. This is actually a debate tactic used to make your opponent look stupid. You slightly exaggerate the numbers so your smug midwit opponent focuses all of his energy on quibbling over the exact figure without realizing he's actually proving your point. I did it all the time back when I participated in LD debate and it consistently worked.
Pro tip, we're not in debate class you fricking nerd
Black person the majority of divorces are still caused by women , that is only one study there are others that have the 80 percent rate.
oh look, a moron arguing with another moron that actually agrees with them
This doesn't surprise me. Have you seen the average middle aged married american man? Fat, boring, lazy, bitter.
>500 days of summer
>sounds hot
>it's some chickflick garbage
It’s not a chick flick at all
reminder that if early in a relationship a woman tells you she doesn't want anything serious, but you are remotely hoping to hang onto that long-term, you have to immediately say "well in that case I think we better split up now, why waste each other's time" and wait.
Summer ended up getting married to some dude so she never had any convictions, she was just a capricious b***h afraid of committing. Tom's only mistake was believing women had any higher virtues like loyalty, like men have.
That's why women identify with Summer, because women just want to do whatever they want at any time with no requirement to commit or have principles
She just didn't consider Tom as a husband material, that's it. It is same for the men. Some girls are for fun, some girls are wife material.
She said she would never fall in love with anyone because she didn't believe in it
I like to imagine Hesher is the sequel to 500 Days of Summer. JGL goes completely batshit insane the moment he finds out that new girl is named Autumn, cuts out all that hipster bullshit and toughens up like the gigachad we all wish he were in the first place.
He was a hothead
Women hate this movie because it actually makes them consider what the men are going through during a break up. Women can just cut off a guy and move on to the next one without much of a thought but they actually have to sit through a pretty accurate depiction of a modern break up from a mans perspective.
>Women can just cut off a guy and move on to the next one without much of a thought
yeah men never do that
Summer KNEW Tom was falling in love. She obviously knew it. Was she clear with him? Yes. Was he clear with her aswel? Yes.
>she: dude I just want sex, I don't believe in love, I don't want a boyfriend
>he: yeah no problem... oh wait that's not something I can decide, I AM falling in love with you
>she: yeah... that's your problem I dont care
Why did she dance with him? Why didn't she tell him she was having another relationship? Why did she keep sleeping with him when she knew he had feelings for her?
I do think the movie really tries to blame on Tom with this "I told you, don't fall in love with me" argument, but the character of Summer completely lacks empathy. There is a scene where Tom describes her as an emotionless human or a robot, and that fits perfect for Summer. She loves her hair, just like she loves to date people. And she loves to cut off her hair, just like she likes to cut off relationships because men have no meaning to her.
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love this pasta / bot
I literally copypasted it only one time
what do you think pasta means Black person
>Copypasta is a chunk of text that has been repeatedly copied and pasted in social media and internet forum posts.
Two copies do not make a pasta you unbelievably moronic idiot
Don't care what you think lol
Ok homosexual
She literally said she wasn’t looking for anything serious with him though
Life is not a romanticist fantasy of love and magic. Everybody is afraid, alone, and horny, until the day they die. You will never be happy unless you cope by trying to find beauty in the most mundane things, but even that eats away at you because you know it's a lie.
Damn, Jeremy. You’re really going through it, huh? 9th grade will be better than 8th, I promise
he isn't wrong. and your belief that "i demonstrate maturity and masculinity by avoiding introspection or thought" is going to bite you in the ass at some point. you'll likely start drinking without know why and become bitter without knowing why and die alone.
It's always true. You (sort of) learn to feel better about it overtime, yes, but pointing out any apathetic outlook on life as "juvenile" means nothing.
Of course I know 🙂
It's amazing, hence why whites should never under any circumstances race mix
any webms?
>We're going to these meeting but we're not doing any meeting
>We're trying to be faithful but we're cheating, cheating,cheating...
>I'm the hero of this story, don't need to be saved
>I'm the hero of this story, don't need to be saved
>I'm the hero of this story, don't need to be saved
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I remember SCREAMING at the TV. "Don't open that door Tom! Don't do it!"
was he an incel?
She crushed another man's soul in "All the real girls"
At least that guy had it coming.
>this thread
LMAOing at all these eternally seething veteran beta orbiters. Maybe one day all of you chinless gays will be men, but today is not that day
everybody check out this sigma male that definitely has his life together
before this thread 404s
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/image/q35xvEcmxWfPwdIcFQ5iPA/
the main character in this movie is probably the best depiction of what we culturally call a beta male in the 20th century
21st century*
I'm a man and Tom was a fricking b***h. Summer said from the start that she wasn't looking for a serious relationship.
Doesn't matter if she married the other guy shortly after. People are allowed to change their mind.
She didn't sign a contract that she would never marry.
>took summers side
women cant differentiate between "taking someones side" and sympathizing with them. ie, if women see their own weaknesses in other women, that woman is "right"
why do you care what women think?
It feels like most anons in this thread have never talked to a woman nor been in a relationship of any kind and thus can't see that both characters in the film are flawed
Any guy who self-inserted as the basedboy MC is beyond saving
Bro was a SIMP
The moment she invited to her engagement party or whatever the frick she lost any moral high ground, whoever sides with her is a certified bad person
What’s difficult to understand , she found a chad and got knocked up asap.
Summer was absolutely leading Tom on and anyone who pretends otherwise is a hopeless simp or a prostitute who uses others but wants to keep their conscience clean and tell herself she's not an horrible person.
Words mean shit if the actions don't follow or give a reasonable margin for belief that the person changed their minds; Summer telling Tom she's not looking for anything serious means shit if she engages in actions that are coherent with someone looking for something serious.
If anything the most unrealistic thing about this whole arrangement is that Tom got to frick Summer that much. When women want to use you they won't have that much sex if they even have sex at all.
High IQ take.
>When women want to use you they won't have that much sex if they even have sex at all.
that's just your personal experience because you aren't sexually attractive
I think she was attracted to him, but the chemistry was not there on her side for a longer lasting relationship. Something was missing.
He liked her more than she liked him, but along the way she wanted to have fun.
The classic male-female roles were reversed here. He insisted on serious relationship like a woman traditionally does.
>I think she was attracted to him
no shit
>If anything the most unrealistic thing about this whole arrangement is that Tom got to frick Summer that much. When women want to use you they won't have that much sex if they even have sex at all.
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>Reddit 2012: This movie is fricking great
>Reddit 2022: This movie fricking sucks
What happened?
Discourse started changing and people realized Tom had a point and as such the movie is now bad because women can't be wrong.
Reddit grew up and got experience?
Reddit FEARS the true nature of women.
>2022 I am forgotten
Has anyone seen The Baxter?
I relate to Tom so much. I actually went through the exact same situation, minus the sex. Painful as frick but was a lesson I will never forget.
This movie is great when you realize tom was summer's side guy all along. She never took him to meet her family, she introduced him to any of her friends. The guy she ended up marrying was her boyfriend for years, probably. Whenever she got upset with him, she went to go see Tom and then would come back to him when things settled down.
women do this thing where they always self insert into every female character they see
and obviously they cannot ever think they ever did anything wrong
therefore no female character could ever do anything wrong either
I had a coworker tell me this and midsommer are her "Favorite movies"
their relationship blowing up was his fault
right from the start she told him who she was and what he wanted
he refused to listen to forced his own fantasies of who he wanted to her to be
when people tell you who they are, listen to them
>he wanted
*SHE wanted
>Ask a girl if she wants something to eat
>"im not hungry"
>You order food for yourself
>She eats all your food
>"I thought you weren't hungry"
>"I changed my mind"
You guys look into this too muxh.The point is they were both terrible for each other, it is what it is. It ain't that deep.
The point is he is a guy who puts the pussy on a pedestal and never actually puts it down so he is lead on by his own fantasies and her basically wanting a little bit of validation. Its really that basic.
>Women take a side
Of course they would, they wouldn't get the point of the movie. Neither of them was wrong, just acted on their own needs and never confronted their actual feelings. He wanted to idolize her and she wanted to be idolized, end of story.
>The point is he is a guy who puts the pussy on a pedestal and never actually puts it down so he is lead on by his own fantasies and her basically wanting a little bit of validation. Its really that basic.
A normal human being would see how someone else look at them and what they see in them, and strive to better themselves and become that person.
She said at the beginning of the relationship is was a FWB situation. He should have known better. Not siding with her but he should have known what to expect.
He's a fricking loser that has sex with a chick that TOLD him how she sleeps around, and after they frick, he's happier than he's ever been. His entire happiness is based on her. She tells him she doesn't want something serious at the start.
That said, it doesn't hurt any less when she calls him up just to say she's married. He's moronic and lonely and miserable and she has no self awareness or care for others. They're both jerks and horribly immature.
>thread is still up
Should be 500 days of rape
Lala Land did this movie better.
imagine turning down the goose.
>taking women seriously
reddit
Redpill me on this movie. Will I like it if I hate women?
the core messages are
>don't put women on a pedestal or else you're setting yourself up to failure
>women will lead you on and then jump off when it's convenient
if that appeals to you, yes you will like it.
sounds like my kind of movie. thank you, friend!
Zooey was a goddess
And yeah it''s quality
"Yo, you've been friend zoned " The movie.
unironically why would a straight man watch this?
>inb4 brainlet bait
no , seriously, why?
He was kind of a simpy desperate beta but most guys are until they get shamed out of it
Most of the time women actually identify as Tom
I watched this after a big break up and I hated both characters. Swingers is a much better movie to watch post break up blues
I feel like the way the MPDG acts in this movie is directly related to how women can also do gay shit with other women but not consider it gay, mean anything, or have much of a negative stigma.
He's a hapa manlet. That should explain everything for you