I know I'm entirely alone on this one, but I think this movie is extremely overrated. The only really good thing about it is the concept of the Predator as a character, or species I guess. That and maybe the big pussy joke.
I know I'm entirely alone on this one, but I think this movie is extremely overrated.
your problem is the gallons of jizz you guzzled before making this post
Nice to see this place hasn't changed at all since last I was here.
But I didn't say it was "great cinema", so I have no idea who you're quoting. I just don't even think it was that good of an action movie, you stupid b***h.
>I just don't even think it was that good of an action movie
well then you're just wrong and I have no idea what you wanted to get out of posting this thread besides getting called moronic
OP here I am low t and trans don't know if that matters tho
I like the idea more than the actual film. It's bold to have all these machismo characters get completely emasculated. Even Arnie is on the backfoot and literally crawling in the mud. Some scenes are kino enough to justify re-watches. I love when Billy makes his last stand. I adore that wide shot of the Predator standing on the log at night, completely torching the forest because he can't see Arnold, which is reminiscent of when the cast were firing aimlessly into the jungle.
>I love when Billy makes his last stand
I liked Billy, so I was actually quite upset when he just got instantly off-screen'd afterwards.
>I adore that wide shot of the Predator standing on the log at night, completely torching the forest because he can't see Arnold
Like I said, the Predator is fricking cool. But that's really the only appeal of this film for me.
I wanted to gauge some of you guys' opinions on the movie to understand what people see in it, because I like to think I give every movie (even the ones I don't like) some appreciation via discussion. I don't understand why you Black folk hate discussion, I thought that was the entire point of this board.
>say bombastic hyperbolic shit
>get mocked for it
idk what to tell you dude. where do you think you are?
>gauge some of you guys' opinions on the movie to understand what people see in it
I don't think it overrated. It's a great genre movie. It had some cool sequences and plays with the tropes but gave a good rousing ending which is exactly what you would want from a movie like this. You know what you should expect from the trailer before going in and the build up throughout.
It's rewatchable now, it's not the first thing I would watch if is was looking for something in that era because tastes move about and shift but occasionally it's good to go back and that is fine considering its age.
I really hope Verhoevens new American film is as good as this as all of his others. I know it doesn't usually turn out that way as a director gets older, but fingers crossed.
ok
some of the schizo editing and loud actions sequences are tiring to watch but I still think it's decent, especially the jungle setting
it was never lauded as "great cinema" you fricking moron
it's an Arnie action movie.
>it was never lauded as "great cinema"
It's a perfect movie, and I don't use perfect lightly.
Do you know who directed this movie? Do you know who Shane Black is? You might be even more moronic than op, if you think this is only an action movie
op, its ok to be dumb, stupid and ignorant. that means you have something to learn
watch this
then ask yourself; does modern movies (John Wick, marvel, Tom Cruise) have as much line of thought injected to their scenes?
You scared away OP. Good job anon!
OP, come back, brew. We can share a J and discuss how moronic your opinions are.
Oh well, Predator thread then. Thanks OP.
You need gear to get biceps like that, right?
They definitely both did roids. They all did back then. To what extent and for how long I don't know.
Carl W. may have been natural, but just may have been.
I can easily believe that he juiced.
Ventura didn't seem to juice, he was just bigger than all of them in size. He surely had juiced, but not for the movie specifically. Chavez and Shane Black didn't look on gear. Bill Duke never took his shirt off in the movie.
>Carl W. may have been natural
dude they ALL roided back then it wasn't even illegal
It still is legal.
I am saying that his body may be natural if he trained a ton and has good genes. But he is on the border (or even closer to the roid side of it).
they all did, everyone in america from the 1950s and forward did
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigger,_Stronger,_Faster*
that's why the Carl Lewis vs Ben Johnson drama is so pathetic. the flag decided the gold medal, anyone who thinks otherwise is naive fool
Word.
>local kinoplex randomly has Predator for one showing next week
I love it when they do that shit, got to watch max max thunder dome the other week
dangerously low t
Yeah exactly.
Name a movie with more test than Predator. And I don't mean a homosexual campfest.
Predator 2 is a much better film with more memorable characters, conflicts, and settings. The setpieces are also fantastic and more memorable than the first film.
I respect Predator for being first and being a fun, tense action flick, but Predator 2 really lives up to the premise's potential.
No
Disagree completely, even though I love Predator 2 for completely different reasons. It's one of the last films to have that sweaty, sleazy look of films like To Live And Die In LA. Also it's really mean, like RoboCop.
>It's one of the last films to have that sweaty, sleazy look of films like To Live And Die In LA
How was this achieved? It's a very recognisable visual style.
Great premise, shot well, great music, great cast, great atmosphere, the effects still look good, no redundant scenes, perfect pacing, tension, good jokes that don't disrupt the serious tone, iconic villain.
OP, Predator is as close to a perfect movie as an action/fantastic film can be.
Predator 2 is also good.
They managed to give a nasty feeling to it, without looking cheap (yes, even the nude playboy model).
2 is goofy. The fictional LA in the movie, the police station, is like a comic book or Dick Tracy movie.
It's normal to watch a popular film decades after the hype has passed and feel underwhelmed, especially with by-the-numbers action flicks like this one.
That's not what by the numbers means
It adheres to an established format and tropes common to action movies. What's the issue?
What'sa matter? The CIA got you pushing too many pensels?
Does OP always travel of tha bordah?
Wrong side. Hit send too fast. Disregard the previous post I suck wieners
There are some films, sacred cows if you will where the hype isn't just justified it exceeds it. Predator is perfect from beginning to end. No wasted shots or extraneous scenes. The casting is perfect. The editing is perfect. Everyone gets their due. No character is wasted. I'm sorry but to even hear someone talk shit about Predator is bizarre to me. Like that gorilla Joe Rogan. He has the worst fricking taste in film of anyone I've listened to.
>quippy action schlock from my childhood
SOUL and le good
>quippy action shlock from 20XX
Cringe and le bad
If someone nowadays could direct a film like Predator/McTiernan then it would also be loved. We don't get films like Predator anymore.
It's decent. Has good onliners and a couple of good set pieces. Knows how to build suspense.
>That and maybe the big pussy joke.
I honestly don't believe it is. I do however believe it's contrarian for contrarian sake. Anything that popular and universally loved will have these types. Happened to RE4 for example. Sometime around 2010 it became popular to shit on it by the same types of people. This feels no different.
>I think this movie is extremely overrated.
Bunch of slack jawed homosexuals around here! Get off the hormone blockers zipper breasts and start lifting so you can become a God damn sexual tyrannosaurus.. just like me ;^)
Something about this poster I love so much. It's framed and on my wall. I also really dig how Arnold looked in this film. I think it's unironically his best acting and the best he's ever looked. He lost a bunch of weight to be more believeable as a special forces guy, and it ended up giving his cheeks that sunken in look. His skull would really loon unique, kind of adding to Predator lore.
what separates Predator from something like the Expendables or Mission Impossible is that while Arnold is a leader, some of the other characters steps in the group has their own specialty, and steps up when need for, exactly like a hunting team. We have Billy the tracker, Poncho the linguist, Blain the Ox, Mac the Pigslammer, Hawk the Joker and Dillon the stupid black guy.
Its the same with the original Die Hard. The villains has each their own unique story and abilities which make them stand out more. Some like candy, other likes babes. Some are brothers, others are Black folk, and so on. Compare the first Die Hard to the fourth. In the fouth the villains get more stereotyped: the karate-girl, the french parkour-expert, the nerdish hacker.
That is where Mad Max: Fury Road succeeded; it had plenty of interesting characters. But when I look at a list of the other top action movies of the 2010s https://www.imdb.com/list/ls083234729/ I notices a lack of "human" character development.
>Fury Road
>plenty of interesting characters
Only interesting character was Furiosa and only in the first half of that boring movie with no dialogue
Extremely homosexual post
>I know I'm entirely alone on this one
you are not alone, you don't even exist.
It's not overrated it's just become one of those reddit fandom movies where it's acceptable to scream about how awesomeballs it is while nervously checking to see if anyone's noticed you're not capable of having an opinion.
I've never seen it but I think it's a great movie
>Too much of a homosexual to appreciate Schwarzenegger killing Nick Tortelli and a dude in chainmail as someone plays a steel drum in the background.
That's uh, Commando, anon.
Oh wow, I'm illiterate.
Generally speaking there are three (3) Greatest Action Movies of All Time. In no particular order:
Die Hard
The Terminator
Predator
Whichever is your personal pick for #1 (mine changes with my mood), we can all agree that OP is a b***h souffle with a side of veganal screeching who will never be a real woman.
Thanks for reading.
>3
make it 10
Total Recall
Robocop
Demolition Man
Commando
Hard Boiled
The Killer
The Matrix
>10
no sequels allowed?
Mad Max 2
Terminator 2
Robowar is better
Any one-dimensional genre shit film like Predator and The Thing are by default overrated by plebs and accurately rated by filmmakers and critics. There's a reason these two films are internet pleb favorites, but when you get to credible swaths of people suddenly they fall into the hundreds, or thousands, as they absolutely fricking should. Calling The Thing a top 10 all time film is a gigantic pleb flag.
Ok capeshitter
>I think "The Thing" isn't a masterpiece of art because...
>...the mass public gets bored and thinks it's shallow.
Ohhh...
No I felt the same way, some of the "classic" 80s movies I actually like and others are just seriously underwhelming
McTiernans (predator die hard hunt for red October last action hero) adaption of the eaters of the dead (the 13th Warrior) by Michael Crichton, raped the mouse (touchstone) so hard on budget that they fired him and brought Crichton himself in to finish the production. A fantastic film all around. And if you don't like predator, you're wrong.
People that say predator is overrated more than likely think the 2 new dunc movies are overwhelming. Irony is a love hate relationship.
the DUNC movies are jsut shit, like any other Villememe movie
I concur. Jus finished the first 3 and couldn't make it to the fourth because I got a book about birds which is actually interesting.
>Hi, I'm OP, and I don't know anything about filmography
>I'm also a child, thinking, "I've already seen other movies that do this! LOTS of other movies!! This is old!"
Shocking.
I'm 100% sure this entirely depends on when you grew up.
You had to grow up when good movies (and stories in general) were still made
It's hard to understand storytelling and moviemaking if you were raised by modern mass produced slop
Most moronic thing I've ever heard. I didn't grow up around Night Of The Hunter or Alien or Taxi Driver. I saw those in my era and loved them. I'm 100% sure this entirely depends on whether a not some phone addicted Tik Tok gen gay can even like a good film, let alone something as good and masculine and timeless as Predator.