>I replaced all of your fathers cum with batmans cum so Bruce Wayne is your actual daddy
This shit is fucking retarded.
>I replaced all of your fathers cum with batmans cum so Bruce Wayne is your actual daddy
This phonograph "reads" a rock’s rough surface and transforms it into beautiful ambient music pic.twitter.com/PYDzYsWWf8
— Surreal Videos (@SurrealVideos) March 3, 2023
>Hey, this isn't gonna make it so that next time I fuck my wife my testicles somehow generate some other guy's sperm so that in actuality the jizz I ejaculate from my urethra isn't carrying my genetic material but, say, Batman's? Because I'm regularly cumming in my wife's pussy in order to impregnate her for the first time and I'd hate if my balls were engineered by, say, nanobots to generate Batman's cockmilk and put his baby inside of her instead of mine.
his little brother is also a batman
Back up Batman.
>in the future women can force you to take cuckshots to alter your DNA so they can have a baby with another and "better" mans DNA.
What an awful timeline.
Only Chad should be allowed to reproduce, non-Chad "men" exist to be beta providers.
Technically it was illegal, CADMUS just had that glowfag justification.
umm... i don't watch any of this but is this Bruce Wayne cum thing real?
It is 100% real
Yes. Amanda Waller altered Terry's father's sperm to be Bruce Wayne's.
Effectively yes. His DNA is altered so his sperm is a copy of Bruce
We pretty much have the tech to do this today.
Source?
Yeah, Terry McGinnis in Batman Beyond is Bruce Wayne's indirect son because Amanda Waller believed that the world would always need a Batman.
That's fucking stupid.
Yes, they impregnated Terry’s dad with batsperm
Yes. Which is all the more frustrating because they spent the entire fucking show making the point that there's nothing special about Bruce - and good person with the opportunity and in possession of (or provided with) the resources can become Batman.
Then a few years after the series ends they pull this shit.
its basically benevolent eugenics like you're breeding a dog at that point
Technically yes, but it was clearly only made up for the episode of Justice League Unlimited, and not Batman Beyond itself, so it's easy to ignore.
And Waller roped the lady from Mask of the Phantasm into killing his mom, but she chickened out.
>his mom.
Both parents. The whole point was for Terry to experience the exact same trauma Bruce did at the exact same age. With Bruce's DNA, parents that were similar to Martha and Thomas, and the trauma of helplessly watching them get killed in front of him, Waller thought she had engineered the perfect Batman of the future.
But then the assassin (The Phantasm, a former lover of Bruce even) realized the insanity of what she was going to do, called Waller a nutter, and left the mission unfulfilled.
Oh yeah, you're right. I don't know why I thought Phantasm happened after the Joker gang killed his dad.
Oh wait, yes I do, I actively try to forget this episode exists and I haven't watched it the last 4 times I've marathoned Justice League Unlimited.
i think the point was that the lack of trauma showed that it was batman's DNA that made him batman, and not the trauma. terry's existence as an untraumatized batman proves it.
that was my take, anyway.
well to be fair wasn't Thomas Wayne a kind of proto-Batman too anyways
Terry still needed his "dad" to get killed. There always has to be some sort of trigger even if it isn't necessarily boyhood trauma
See, at THAT point it went from well-intentioned to fucking diabolical. WTF, Amanda.
I can't help but wish that were a little more fleshed out. Like Waller hires the fucking Phantasm of all people to murder 2 innocent people in front of their son.
>Well, that's kind of dark, but Waller usually knows what she's doing so maybe they're space parasites or something
>Man that kid looks familiar
>Looks like a young Bruce Way.....
>Ohhhhh no. Fuck no. FUCK NO NO NO NO ABORT ABORT ABORT ABORT
>Bitch, I am not going to be the stooge that murders Batman's parents, you fat psycho cunt
>the lady from Mask of the Phantasm
That was the same lady? I completely forgot about that. Was that the only other time we saw her outside of that movie?
Actually she was in a Batman Beyonds comic too where she reprises being the Phantasm to kill Joe Chill's son because he killed Terry's father and Amanda Waller hired her to make sure Terry couldn't get him to talk.
that spoiler is the most cursed thing I have read about Batman Beyond, jesus christ what is wrong with these writers
This is from 2014 so it also comes after (and probably is inspired by) the JLU appearance.
if I was tasked with writing this the first thing I would do is have Terry wake up from dreaming Epilogue and dismiss it as the BS it was, and then never reference it again. I'm sure Timm and Dini would be onboard too given the response to it.
Are you not aware of of how Timm doubled down on BrucexBarbara despite it being historically controversial? Like it or not, Terry is Bruce's son through nano-bot sperm shenanigans.
I mean the point of Project Batman Beyond. Because the intent was a Terry traumatized exactly like Bruce was after having a similar childhood.
Bullshit anyways. Wonderwoman X Batman was one of the few good ships in DCU
I forget, but are those post-DCAU comics that are meant to be DCAU made by anyone who worked on the old shows?
BTAS The adventure Continues is
Why is Waller so committed to the bit, damn. Where is Superman while all this shit is happening?
Because Waller is like Luthor, an advocate for humanity in the face of the supernatural and extraterrestrial. Batman is peak humanity, near perfection, Waller admires that
she fat
Terry wouldn't be too unjustified in brutally killing her right then and there.
Did he use OMAC tech to do that?
Cadmus tech. Supposedly the same tech that Joker used to make the clone chip he put on Tim Drake.
>OMAC CUMS SO THAT BATMAN MAY LIVE!
man I wish the dcau bothered to do any omac stuff
It explains why he and his wife were split up, dude probably got suHispanicious when both sons with his redhead wife came out black haired.
>It explains why he and his wife were split up, dude probably got suHispanicious when both sons with his redhead wife came out black haired.
not a bad argument
There’s literally nothing wrong with this. Batman Beyond is meant to be a cyberpunk dystopia, so a fucking glowie trying to engineer a second Batman with spunk altering nano machines is fine.
would've been a great villian, but it ruins terry as a character.
Why did he keep Terry if both sons had black hair from what he could assume was his wife's lover genes?
perfect revenge
Because gene tests would’ve matched them with him because of the injection, probably wrote it off as freak recessive genes seeing as the genetics match and he’s pretty confident he’s the only one fucking his wife.
Maybe his wife dies her hair.
>Because gene tests would’ve matched them with him because of the injection,
So how did this even work, because Bruce knew Terry's was his long before Terry found out. I guess he somehow looked into it and discovered it.
Batman is Batman. He figured it out cause he's Batman.Any number of bullshit could've lead to Bruce investigating Terry's DNA and Cadmus's fuckery. But he intended to never tell Terry this out of respect for the man who raised Terry. And he hoped that Terry would never find out on his own.
This is why you shouldn't trust vaccines.
>comparing real life to pop culture sci-fi bullshit
yeah and donald trump is literally voldemort!!!!
Jokes on Fauci I was never gonna cum inside a woman anyway.
God this was so fucking stupid. I'm so glad it wasn't in Batman Beyond itself.
Missing Pfitzer logo.
>Forced vaccination from government agency/shadowy cabal turns mens semen into something else.
You don't say....
Speaking of the vaxx and spike proteins masquerading as semen...
Personally I feel that Humans being unable to reproduce for a while would be a net positive for mankind. A lot of people shouldn't be having kids right now. Or at all.
The "TOO MANY HUMANS SO KILL A BUNCH TO SAVE RESOURCES" thing in infinity war sounded like a good idea?
Want to know what would actually help the planet?
Ending modern capitalism and forced sterilization of people who push depopulation and death of human beings.
Like Bill Gates, everyone in the WEF and You.
>not letting you have kids is the same as literally killing you
lol
Shut up tankie
Lead by example and sterilize yourself.
No, you first, mindless breeder.
>rules for thee, not for me
Every time
its their main kink
if the entire world population lived in Texas, we would still be less crowded than New York City. Texas has over 268,000 square miles of land for a planet of 8 billion-plus people. That would equate to approximately 30,000 people per square mile. Manhattan, on the other hand, boasts 67,000 people per square mile
Part of the appeal of regions like Texas is precisely how underpopulated and spacious they are. I don't think you'd like like a packed sardine in South East Asia.
The point is that overpopulation is a myth based on the fact that certain cities are highly overpopulated and the rest of the world is completely fucking empty
if everyone just spread out a little more (and the trillionaires would stop artificially bottlenecking resources) we'd be fine
According to Timm and McDuffie this was the backstory of Beyond from the start.
Epilogue added in the Cadmus bits to tie it into JLU but Terry was created as Bruce's biological son. Thus two red heads having two black haired blue eyed kids
Yeah. He was supposed to be Batman and Catwoman's kid.
This bullshit was just unneeded and entirely ruins the character in the most fucked up way possible.
>Dwayne McDuffie on “Epilogue” #1: “'Epilogue' is special; without giving anything away, we consider it a bookend to the entire DC animated universe that began with 'On Leather Wings'—the first episode of Batman: the Animated Series—and continued through Superman, Batman Beyond, and Justice League (courtesy of Comic Buyers Guide Magazine)."
>Bruce Timm on an unproduced Batman Beyond DTV (circa 2001): “I could easily go back and do some more Batman Beyonds, sure. There was this one DTV story idea that Glen Murakami and I were toying with involving Catwoman, but it was really dark…I mean pitch black. So, after what happened with Return of the Joker, I don’t think that one’s gonna happen any time soon (courtesy of The World’s Finest).”
>The Catwoman Batman Beyond DTV thing was never scripted; it never went beyond a 45-minute impromptu plotting session between Glen Murakami and myself. Nothing was ever even written down on it. In its original (if nebulous) form, it was too similar to both Mask of the Phantasm and Return of the Joker in several key plot-structure points, but even before we had a chance to iron any of that out, the home video’s unbridled apathy towards any more Batman Beyond DTV projects made the whole thing moot.
>“[However], as we were plotting out the tail end of the current JLU season, I brought the basic idea up to my co-producers, [and] we quickly realized how it could make a really nifty off-the-wall ‘bonus’ episode. […] We did have Buffy’s ‘Restless’ episode in mind, season finale-wise; also, the ‘flashback’ structure was very much inspired by Tim Minnear’s excellent Firefly episode ‘Out of Gas,’ as well as the ‘Three Cathedrals’ episode of West Wing. It actually works way better as the coda to this season than as a stand-alone Batman Beyond film; in fact, we were able to solve a lot of its inherent problems by grafting it onto the Cadmus plot.
>“[In the Batman Beyond DTV], instead of Waller, Selina Kyle herself was going to be the one who cloned Batman. Staying much closer to the ‘Boys from Brazil’ set-up, Selina hedged her bets and created lots of Bruce Wayne clones, and systematically murdered their parents when they reached the proper age. Most of them didn’t become manic-depressive crime-fighters, only Terry and one other—a young boy she adopted and raised as her own son. There was going to be a creepy ‘Manchurian Candidate’ aspect to their relationship, with the aging (but still disturbingly kinda sexy) Selina coaxing the kid into becoming an über-messed-up avenger of evil.
>Selina’s ‘son’ was going to be the main bad guy ‘muscle’ of the story—a twisted version of Terry / Bruce, with his own ‘dark superhero’ outfit and everything. The plan was for him to be bumping off criminals from the Batman Beyond Rogues Gallery, and possibly even an old-timer like Edward Nygma, thus setting the plot in motion (this part was always a bit too ‘Phantasm’ for me, but I did like the ‘Manchurian Candidate’-ness of him).
>“This version of Selina had, at some point in the past, ‘seen the light,’ after years of Batman nagging her to use her talents to help people instead of just helping herself. She eventually realized he was right, but with ‘born again’ zeal, decided Batman himself didn’t go far enough in punishing criminals; she needed a Batman who would help her eliminate criminals (i.e. kill them dead) and set about creating one. These were going to be ‘true’ Bruce Wayne clones, not nano-engineered ‘sons’; in fact, that had a whole lot of problems built into it, which we would have had to figure out if we’d ever gotten a greenlight:
>If Terry were an exact clone of Bruce, why didn’t Bruce recognize him immediately when he showed up fighting Jokerz outside his gate?
>Since Lil’ Matt is patently identical to Terry, how could he also be a clone? Wouldn’t make sense for Selina to have artificially inseminated Mary McGinnis twice, five or so years apart.
>How did Terry’s parents escape being murdered when Terry was eight years old?
>Dwayne’s ‘nano-engineered sperm’ idea neatly solved all these problems. [In addition], there were other aspects of the story that would’ve needed some massaging; for instance, Selina never seemed particularly tech-savvy, so the bonkers clone plot seemed like a bit of a stretch for her (but perfect for Mrs. Waller and her Frankenstein leanings). [Also], Bruce was going to discover the truth about ‘dark avenger guy’ being a clone of himself, put two and two together, and realize [that] Terry was also a Bruce clone and try to shut Terry out of the case, but that bit was way too similar to what we’d just done in Return of the Joker.
>“Terry thinking he was ‘cursed by Batman,’ blaming Bruce for ruining his life, even suspecting that Bruce deliberately set the whole thing up, breaking up with Dana…all these bits originated in that impromptu brainstorming session with me and Glen Murakami. The Terry / Dana breakup bit was kinda cool: Terry and Dana go to the wedding of one of her cousins, and you know how people get at weddings; Dana starts hinting that they should think about getting hitched (after they graduate, of course!) and, surprisingly, Terry’s not completely adverse to the idea: part of him would actually like to settle down with this girl he obviously adores and live something of a normal life, but then he finds out he’s Bruce’s clone, thinks he’s cursed, doesn’t want Dana to have anything to do with him, [etc.].
>Terry deciding to change the Batman paradigm by actually marrying her at story’s end was something we added when writing ‘Epilogue.’ I honestly don’t know how we would have resolved the Dana / Terry thing if we’d made the Batman Beyond version. Anyhow, that’s it in a nutshell. (courtesy of ToonZone)
>Dwayne McDuffie on Waller’s cloning efforts: “Cut from the episode was a scene explaining that Waller did this many times (ala Boys from Brazil) in the hopes of producing one suitable Batman replacement. Girls would be ignored and left to grow up without interference. In families with a good male candidate, like Terry’s—any other siblings would be killed along with the parents. After Phantasm refused to kill Terry, Waller realized how far around the bend she had gone and gave up on the whole project. Terry meeting Bruce later and becoming Batman was indeed coincidence or, more charitably, fate (courtesy of Television Without Pity).”
>Bruce Timm on "Epilogue” #1: “Well, we didn’t come right out and say it, but since Warren’s love gun was shooting 'Bruce Wayne bullets,' yes, Matt is also Bruce’s biological son.
>“Actually, the almost freakish similarity between the two brothers was what got us thinking about the ‘clone’ thing in the first place, back when we were working on Batman Beyond. We were always amused that Lil’ Matt was an almost exact duplicate of Terry, even down to the hairstyle. Then, the hair itself got us thinking, ‘Huh, Terry and Matt have jet-black hair, dad’s hair is sandy brown, and mom’s a redhead. Hmm…(courtesy of Toon Zone).”
>Dwayne McDuffie on “Epilogue” #2: “The black-and-white parts [in the episode ‘Epilogue’] were [Terry’s] fantasies. [Also], in the script, I called [the new RFG Jack] ‘Kabuki Jack’ (courtesy of DwayneMcDuffie.com).”
>Bruce Timm on “Epilogue” #2: “Note that ‘Kent’ didn’t call saying, ‘What the hell are you talkin’ about, quitting the League?,’ he just wanted to talk to Terry about a case. Also, the clock (a ‘Terry’s P.O.V. close-up of which we held on a real long time) isn’t broken. Sure, Bruce could have just had the clock repaired (and been too ‘cool’ to acknowledge the embarrassing emotional pyrotechnics of the earlier scenes), Dana might have just been thinking, ‘Yeah, yeah, it’s the “superhero-dumps-the-girlfriend-for-her-own-protection” bit again…third time this year,’ and Superman probably doesn’t take Terry’s, ‘I’m quitting the League,’ anymore seriously than Bruce’s old, ‘I’m just a part-timer’ schtick. The story works either way, whether the black-and-white scenes are Terry’s worst-case scenario imaginings or actual flashbacks.
>See, ultimately, *that’s* what the episode is all about (or, at least that’s what we *intended* it to be about). All the artsy-fartsy fantasy / flashbacks, and the cameos and in-jokes and even the big, ‘soul-shattering revelation’ are basically window-dressing. What I like most about the episode is that it provides an honest ‘happy ending’ for Batman, without being overly sappy and maudlin. Especially once you realize the ‘flashbacks’ never, in fact, happen, it’s clear that Bruce has willingly ‘retired’ completely from Batman, confident that Terry will carry on his tradition, and his beloved Gotham will always be protected. Note that he says Superman called, wanting *Terry’s* opinion on a case, *not Bruce’s*. The idea being that Bruce doesn’t actively participate in crime-fighting anymore, not even in an advisory capacity—he probably doesn’t even monitor Terry on the com-link anymore (oh yeah, that was another—admittedly probably too subtle—‘fantasy’ hint: Bruce is wearing way too much silent-movie-villain eyeshadow in the Batcave sequences). The ‘soup’ bit implies that he’s taken on the ‘Alfred’ role, and though he nags Terry about the soup going cold, he seems pretty confident with his lot overall.
>“And as for Terry, he *changes the Batman paradigm*—whether he’s Bruce’s son or his clone or whatever, that’s beside the point: as Waller tells him, bottom-line, he’s his own man. He decides at the end to be Batman on his own terms, ‘Screw it, I’m gonna break the rules, defy destiny—and probably defy Bruce too, I bet he won’t be too keen on the idea—I’m gonna marry the girl I love and *still* be Batman’ (courtesy of Toon Zone).”
>Dwayne McDuffie on Bruce’s knowledge of Terry’s secret: “Of course [Bruce knew Terry was a clone]. He’d never bring it up because he wants Terry to be his own man (courtesy of DwayneMcDuffie.com).”
>Bruce Timm on “On Leather Wings” symmetry: “That’s Kevin [Conroy] as the skycop in ‘Epilogue,’ all right. We thought it would be apropos to have him say the very last line spoken in a DCAU episode [as Conroy voiced the policeman in the blimp in the first DCAU episode, the Batman episode ‘On Leather Wings’] (though technically Clive Revill said the very first line, ‘This is Gotham Air One reporting in, things are actually quiet for once,’ so that kinda blows the coda things somewhat, but still; courtesy of Toon Zone).”
>>“[However], as we were plotting out the tail end of the current JLU season, I brought the basic idea up to my co-producers, [and] we quickly realized how it could make a really nifty off-the-wall ‘bonus’ episode. […] We did have Buffy’s ‘Restless’ episode in mind, season finale-wise; also, the ‘flashback’ structure was very much inspired by Tim Minnear’s excellent Firefly episode ‘Out of Gas,
I remember reading this as a 13 year old and thinking it was so weird that grown men would admit to watching Buffy the Vampire slayer, which I always thought was just trash TV. Gen Xers really fucking loved that show and Whedon
Buffy was good TV actually. I'm not going to say it was life changing or anything but it was enjoyable and checked off all the modern supernatural stuff that makes me happy. It helps that it was very action packed as well
Shut up and take your vaccine, sir.
My /toon/mblr sisters be like "damn 10/10 episode this is some good heckin writing"
nobody has ever said this
Go see /toon/ 15 years ago.
Non canon
Noncanon or not, it unfortunately still happened.
should've made it so it was a fusion of Batman and his dad's cum
Should've impregnated herself with that sperm.
the only solution is to now take revenge on both her and women everywhere by running around and raping whoever you like so that when they do a DNA test they discover you're never the father and thus dont have to pay any child support or get in trouble
thats what we call "fuck around and find out"
Yeah COVID actually did kill a bunch of people, retard
that's just what they wanted you to think, now we're all shooting Obama's cum out of our balls
Nobody.. said anything about republicans? or even "lefty-righty" politics? we just pointed out how differently it was views in cartoons compared to now...
I mean, fuck, I don't even disagree with you, you're absolutely right and I can't fault you for going a little mad there about it
I'm just saying... .This is a thread for making fun of dogshit batman plots
Yeah I got into the rant and halfway through I was figuring it was gonna get banned for off-topic, but, you know what? Fuck it. People need to think more about this. We're all fighting each other and missing the bigger schemes from it.
Nihil sub sole novum.
The glavset's on /toon/ also? What's even the point?
>We still have covid conspiratards in this day and age.
christ
>it wasn't too hard to get Bruce's DNA, he left it all over town
>*raises eyebrow*
>Not remotely what I meant!
What if that's just compliant people are docile and therefore more likely to be fatter, and non-compliant people are more indpendent and more likely to take care of their bodies (in the general sense of taking care) against stuff like letting themselves get fat?
Correlation doesn't mean causation.
I get what you're saying, but man
>compliant people are docile and therefore more likely to be fatter, and non-compliant people are more indpendent and more likely to take care of their bodies
that reads badly.
Maybe people should stop being fat dumb shits who put literally anything in their body, even a vaccine that turns their cum into batman's cum.
That's not what vaccines are for, retard.
>he doesnt know the clot shot turns your cum into batman's cum
You need to stop whoring yourself for attention.
You need to stop injecting yourself with cum batman-izing juice, anon
all Bruce had to do was have sex. All of this could have been prevented but nooooooo he was trying to end the wayne lineage
Isn't Damien his flesh and blood son?
rape, or something
>Can't even have a thread making fun of one of the dumbest plotlines in a better cartoon of it's era without it getting politically retarded
A damn shame
damian doesn't exist in dcau
Damien wasn't created yet
strictly speaking yes, but kind of no. bruce and talia having a child together was done back in the late 80s and waid brought a version back as ibn al'xuffasch in kingdom come. morrison just brought the kid back and gave him a name
>Scrapped Wonderbat baby when Bruce and Diana did get together. She got pregnant but fucked off back home so Bruce could still be Batman without worrying about a baby. Baby comes back as a teen and becomes the new Wonder Woman. Diana can't leave Themiscyia cuz she's Queen now.
>This was the original idea for how the Beyond comics were gonna explain Diana's absence from Beyond
Still less stupid then Tery's background. Only problem would be the reason Diana leaving. Make it so Apollo or someone shows her how Bruce gets killed or something. Gotham gets more fucked up without a Batman. Or something.
It ruins the point that Terry became Batman because he wanted to and worked for it, just makes it destiny crap, I hate it so fucking much, that I don't personally see it as canon.
Pretty average western comic plot
wouldn't it be too obvious if millions of people post covid pandemic were giving birth to children that resembled Bill Gates?
Not only would most people be too retarded to make that connection, you'd have some people saying "so what if my kid is a bill gates, that just means he's 200 IQ, I fuckin love science!".
Is this a continuation of Batman beyond? Forgive me, I never come on this board, I’m just bored of the porn
It’s a 19 year old episode of justice league unlimited
I think the fact Barbara almost killing Terry's parents was worse
Not Barbara, Andrea/ phantasm
>This shit is fucking retarded.
It is a universally disliked episode that completely shits on Terry's character and Batman Beyond's core message as a whole.
>It is a universally disliked episode
It really is a shame that good scenes are wasted in that episode. They really could have just removed that one part about having Bruce be genetically related to Terry and the episode would have been great and nothing would have changed story wise.
>Terry finds out Cadmus has files on his family dated before he ever met Bruce
>Tracks down and talks to Waller
>She explains they were going to have his parents assassinated because he met an ideal psychological profile, one of possibly several candidates
>The assassin backs down and the program gets canceled
>fate still leads Terry to tragedy and that leads him to becoming Batman
That'd have been cool
Terry is literally born in this exact year, 2023, on august the 8th. Terry's dad is literally one of the kids who watched the fuckin show kek. One anon theoretically got cucked by waller.
What is even the point of making Terry Bruce's son? The point of Batman Beyond was Bruce passing on the mantle, was it not? That loses it's punch if it turns out they're atcually related.
The DCAU was an amazing franchise but it was held back so hard by the writers insistence on making Batman the center of the universe.
Coom
I'm trying but first they need to let me in.
You mean the athletes who cheat with drugs? Hmmm wonder why
....did you personally suck it out of Batman then blow it into Batman Beyond's dad?
>dying of cancer or heart disease instead? Where's the lockdowns on that shit?
I actually can't tell if this was an intentional joke or not
I hate the message is
>What makes a superhero is their genetics
Sooner or later, capeshit always fall into eugenics.
still an improvement on "burgeoning street punk loses a father to even worse criminals and turns his shit around because WB demanded batman be a child even though he's a high school senior but whatever"
fixed his chin right up too once those genes finally kicked in.
Actually a retard
I understand the change of the original series' message about Terry being his own person, but did Waller force him to have that hair style too?
>so that pencil pusher Waller starts going nuts after the Cadmus stuff went south, saying we needed to make a new Batman. Can you believe that shit? Hamilton got an alien clone calling him daddy and we managed to mass produce metas, and this fat cunt starts making us work on a project to make some poor bastard have the same sperm as that millionaire guy, uh, Bruce Wayne was it? Apparently he was Batman. Fucking asinine. A clone is one thing, but making it a child with an unknown mother brings so many other variables it was basically pointless. If the mom has a history of asthma ,Batman jr would need an inhaler. Anyway, one of the guys figured; work smarter, not harder. Waller’s no scientist, she can’t do DNA tests herself, as long as the baby sort of looked like Bruce Wayne we were in the clear. Black hair, blue eyes. So one of the guys made up a way to guarantee a baby with black hair and blue eyes, but otherwise kept the DNA the same. We figured by the time Waller suspected anything, we’d be long gone with the payola
>she called the project “Batman Beyond” can you believe that?sounds like a damn action figure.
Holy shit that image.
Hamilton gets nothing truely he has been obliterated
>what if terry obtain his credibility as batman by his own merits?
>nah, he was always batman's son , hus clone-son
What the fuck is wrong with the DCAU?
>Batman cucks robin and bangs batgirl daily
>Terry’s father gets cucked by Batman’s sperm
>Embargo on nearly all batman characters by JLU
>Static Shock’s main villain gets away with everything
>Writers were prohibited from using the actual JSA for the episode Legends so they had to use OCs
>Batman Beyond starts out good but meanders into the same shlock by the end
>Sub Zero becomes completely pointless when Mr. Freeze decides to become a total cuck and not even see his revived wife
>Lois and Supes relationship goes nowhere
>Kara never gets used for anything and when she does she retires to the future forever
>Amazo becomes the strongest thing in the entire universe and becomes way too strong and has to leave forever
>Max could’ve been made more useful but just didn’t
>GL and Hawkgril never get together again after JL
>Flash doesn’t get too much focus in general apart from an episode or two
>Supergirl is weirdly retconned to be from another planet and not a Kryptonian
>That fucking batman episode where the status quo was thrown out the window when barbara dies and gordon goes after batman only for it to all be just a dream
>Aquaman is not a main member of the JL, hangs out with Doctor Fate more than anything
>There was supposed to be a movie between JL and JLU explaining how the fuck they expanded but it just wasn’t made
>Batman somehow keeping up with the rest of the just us league fighting against aliens
>Luthor and Darkseid simply fuck off in the climax of JLU and vanish
>Literally every female character in the batman shows have the same build archetype
>Someone thought it was a good idea to make the Zeta Project show and not even cameo in Terry
>Static Shock’s main villain gets away with everything
We talking the executive guy? Because they were trying to go the route of "His love for his son has made him regret all of his prior actions" in the episode about curing his son from being a hunk of rock.
Its legal bullshit that you can get out of repercussions just because "I feel bad, and I'm very powerful/important, so wanting to atone is enough", but its often done in comics and shonen so long as the villain feels bad about it.
It's about teaching and normalizing powerful wealthy evil people getting away with or being shielded from consequences of seriously fucked up shit as good.
It's a memetic brainwashing tool used to protect the powers that be.
Murder hundreds of normal people and treat them like less then trash and beat up someone you could be friends with.
But the big bad who caused all of the death and destruction and did horrifying evil?
Oh let that bro go.
Give him a pat on the back and box of tissues to wipe his eyes.
This is why transformative and restorative justice are so important. It's not enough to stop the original act of harm. You have to change the conditions that led to it happening in the first place and repair as much of the damage done as possible.
That's not good for the status quo.
The type of harm shown and subtly encouraged and types of criminal and illegal and harmful activity in media is done to maintain a status quo and push narratives that protect deeply destructive things in reality.
Art imitates life.
But life is created and changed through art.
Allowing art to be used as a weapon and tool by the powers that be, be used foolishly by the hedonistic worshipers of profit and materialism or recklessly used by egotistical sociopaths and not called on it's bullshit is the greatest example of "evil wins when the good don't stand up to it" on earth.
There is no changing the big fish in the pond. Even if you introduce them in another lake, they will continue to feast.
Bad dogs get put down. Bad kings get the axe. Bad rich men are eaten.
Well that's just untrue. It can be hard but when people are put in a place to hold themselves accountable and deal with the consequences, a great many "bad guys" fall sway to corrective action.
The problem is that society as a whole isn't built for that. It's built for getting away Scott free if you're powerful and getting put into a concrete plantation/gang prep school if you are Black and/or poor.
>getting put into a concrete plantation/gang prep school if you are Black and/or poor.
Not quite correct VP Harris bailed out antifa protesters for a reason. Those useful to The Machine get out scott free those who aren't they get full weight of the law.
>Those useful to The Machine get out scott free those who aren't they get full weight of the law.
They aren't useful.
They are their fucking personal terrorist group.
You should have fucking known what was up when we were all told to stay in doors and not put up a fight and protest UNLESS you wanted to be a part of "antifa" or "blm".
>They aren't useful.
They are useful to the Uniparty's political machine, not to the people.
>/toon/- Comics and Cartoons
>GL and Hawkgril never get together again after JL
They state/imply that the two of them got together in the Time travel episode though.
>Luthor and Darkseid simply fuck off in the climax of JLU and vanish
They got sucked back into the source wall; that's the problem with trying to understand it, it becomes obsessive so its all you care about, hence most everyone who's tried to study it ends up, at one point or another, "fucking off" back into it.
Makes sense to me.
Zeta Project had a Batman cameo..........in it's first season.
>Batman Beyond starts out good
Said this before, will say this again. Killing off Blight so early left Terry with no meaningful personal and emotional connections, so it devolves into Terry fighting boring jobbers.
There were attempts at personal villains like Big Time, but Big Time was fucking awful and the rest of the show's villains were mediocre to bad.
No, Mad Stan being a meme doesn't make him a good villain.
>, so it devolves into Terry fighting boring jobbers.
I fucking hate "pro wrestling" and it's influence on nerd hobbies so much
....
You do fucking know why superman and batman and others of the type are dressed like circus strongmen and circus WRESTLERS don't you?
That has literally nothing to do with his point. What an embarrassing post and attempted own you just tried to do.
Circus wrestlers are more respectable than modern pro wrestling with “storylines” which ruin people’s perception of storytelling.
If Terry’s villains are “jobbers” then any given murderer in a detective story is a “jobber”. It’s retarded, they exist to tell a story not to power level wank.
Yeah, maybe if those villains were less awful, they'd get a more dignified moniker.
is weirdly retconned to be from another planet and not a Kryptonian
What
>Superman: "Naturally, we had to kick him out of the Justice League. Who knew Batman was using his resources to rape all the women in the world."
>Warner Bros: "Hey, we're gonna do Batman Begins, Christopher Nolan is doing it, if it does well pretty much every bat character is going to be on film, prolly gonna reboot everything DC, yup, I bet every character even remotely related to Bruce Wayne is gonna get a movie or a live action show. Man, pretty much anyone who made an original Batman character is gonna make a lot of money...."
>Bruce Timm: "PAUL! QUICK! TERRY MCGUINNIS! MAKE HIM RELATED TO BATMAN! I KNOW, I KNOW, HE HAS A FAMILY, I DON'T CARE! AMANDA WALLER PUMPED TERRY'S DAD WITH A SPERM GUN CONTAINING BATMAN'S SPERM! SO WHEN HE CAME IN TERRY'S MOM IT WAS BAT SPERM! TERRY IS BATMAN'S CANON KIIIIIIIIIID! GIVE ME FUCKING MONEY HOLLYWOOD!"
And then no one ever touched Batman Beyond again.
>And then no one ever touched Batman Beyond again.
Thank god, that would be worse
>And then no one ever touched Batman Beyond again
Look like someone erased Beyond the White Knight from their memory, which is understandable
> remember that white knight Batman isn’t a Wayne and is a retard and goes after joker’s sloppy seconds
Ever since I was a kid there's been something absolutely depressing to me about Warren McGinnis' genetics just ending with him. Not even Terry's little brother is his. His genetics ended bleeding out in some shitty little apartment, tossed into a box, devoured by worms. There's something existentially terrible about that. He was robbed of his reward for his own biological drive to reproduce. He will not have his genetics saved. He will simply return to the Earth as if he never existed. His family line continued up until him and then..nothing.
I don't get why people care so much about the Bruce cum nano machine shit. Amanda literally said that genes alone don't make the Batman. Which is why the original plan was to engineer a similar childhood for Terry ending with both his parents getting killed when Terry was at the same age as kid Bruce. But his hired assassin got all moral about it and the project was cancelled. Terry continued living a normal life and his brother STILL lives a normal life. Fate just lead to Terry being Batman anyway.
I get that people probably wouldn't mind the episode as much if it weren't for the Bat cum plot, but IMO, its just worth an extra chuckle over how batshit Project Batman Beyond was.
>Fate just lead to Terry being Batman anyway.
This is the issue. The idea that Terry was destined to be Batman is cringe, he should've ended up as such by pure circumstance and his own merits.
It was as destined as any other character becoming a superhero. A bunch of random circumstance. The point is that it wasn't engineered by Waller since they cancelled the project long before Terry's origin story for becoming Batman.
The man is dead and he died not knowing it. If anything. he died wishing his last interaction with Terry wasn't a stupid argument. The same way Terry carries that guilt for the rest of his life.
>he should've ended up as such by pure circumstance and his own merits
he still did dumbass
his dad dying had nothing to do with Waller's plan ultimately, he chose to be Batman it was never destined
Wasted dubs
>he still did dumbass
Then the whole episode was an exercise in pointlessness and shouldn't have been made.
actually...
>he chose to be Batman it was never destined
Just because they didn't tastelessly recreate the murder of Bruce's parents with Terry doesn't mean Waller's actions didn't set him on an inevitable path. Whoever Terry might have been if they hadn't intervened - he didn't become that person, which invariably taints the claim that Terry becoming Batman was solely because of Terry's decisions in life.
After the project was canceled, the only holdover Terry had was his genes. Are you really arguing that even if his father hadn't been murdered by a hired thug or if he hadn't met Bruce Wayne, Terry would've still ended up being Batman?
Matt Mcginnis also has Bruce's DNA and was raised by the same parents and thus experienced the trauma of his father's death? Did he become Batman? No! He's still a regular kid as far as the show and Justice League are concerned.
Thus making the episode pointless except to fuck with Terry's backstory and turn his dad into a cuck
They introduced a plot involving conflict and resolved it. It has as much point as any episode of the show.
Not really
Bruce has magic dna and MY PARENTS ARE DEEEEEEAAAAAADD activates super powers.
This is what these functional retards are going with?
If they wanted peak human genetics...they should have just picked up one of Nightwings bastards.
Dick was keeping up with peak batman as a preteen and fought everything from insane knife wielding clowns to world devouring gods with the power of annihilation in their eyes.
Held his own with the worlds best fighters, thought on equal terms with histories greatest detectives, and has experienced every insane phenomenon humanly possible as child and not only kept up...but THRIVED in that environment.
And he grew up to be a massive manwhore who lived life on easymode and cruised through every single battle without actually trying too hard in any encounter.
Remember the thing with Ra's Al Ghul in Talia's body?
Remember the severly fucked up clay girl ep? Creepy lonely tards around here loved it but I saw it as a straight up stranger danger ep.
Nightwing was fucking catwoman for a while
a man got cucked on a cyperpunk level. That shit is sad
>Amanda literally said that genes alone don't make the Batman.
Which makes it not only a stupid reveal, but an ultimately pointless one.
Point was literally just to show off how much of an insane Batfag that Waller was. It wasn't about Terry beyond making him briefly think his entire life was a lie (and briefly thinking Bruce was behind it).
Devalue how? The project ended in failure, leading to it having no influence on his decision to become Batman. And Bruce's genes alone failed to make Terry a natural successor to. He had to work at it and he worked at it at a much later age than when Bruce became fixated on the death of his parents. Even as an adult, Waller calls him out for not being as smart as Bruce (though acknowledges he doesn't need to be).
>Point was literally just to show off how much of an insane Batfag that Waller was.
>"What a great point, it was totally worth it!"
>t. some retard
Are you saying Waller isn't allowed to be an insane batfag. I know nothing about her comic self, but her DCAU self was known for crazy schemes.
I know I just liked seeing more Terry since the last time he showed up in Justice League, he got murdered by Harley's granddaughters.
>he got murdered by Harley's granddaughters.
wait wat
>He doesn’t know
Joker canonically shot his Joker sperm into Harley Quinn shortly before dying and Harley Quinn appeared to die too but then it turns out she didn’t and the next time you see her she’s a grandmother
No not that part, the part about them killing Terry
That episode where Bats, Diana and John goes to the past and future, they meet John's son with Shayera, meets Terry and old Bruce and Terry gets killed by those bitches
>A JOKER SPERM
I thought the point was Joker was shooting blanks and Harley found another guy
It devalues the entire reasoning Terry becoming Batman and the effort he put into it,
2000s cartoons were bad
Nah, they were largely good, and the fact that we have this little to complain about is evident of that.
The fact that Justice League is the best one, despite being kind of shit, doesn't speak well of that decade. I'll grant you the 10s were even worse and the 20s (so far) have been even even worse than that.
>little
more like microscopic
I hate Epilogue so much. If Terry wasn't so fucking cool and awesome on his own, it would've completely killed the character's appeal for me.
my headcanon is that Epilogue never happened and Terry looks just as chad as an adult and he married Max
What was the motivation behind this writing decision
Batwanking and Terry despair. Entertaining for some.
>Terry looks nothing like his parents
>retards think the Cadmus plot came out of nowhere when they slapped you with it from the very beginning
that doesn't make it good writing
The real fucked up thing is that Superman knew.
How?
The original plan was for it to be Catwoman, who was also fucking another Bruce baby.
He looks like his little brother though, and this explanation doesn't imply the same thing happened with this brother.
>:3
Wow, that's an old fucking meme, oldfag.
the dumbest thing about this is making terry a gigabro instead of keeping his sleeker appearance.
He looks like Elvis.
he was a teenager, years of exercise will put muscle on his frame.
Yeah I think that was to make him look closer to Bruce as he got older, it just looks weird with his design.
this killed the credibility of the DCAU.
wasn't it effectively the end of the DCAU anyways? did they produce anything after?
Justice League vs Fatal Five
there was one more season of JLU
I like how the airing of the end of the
DCAU was immediately followed up by this crap.
Gundam Seed was pretty cool tbh, but I'm not a mechfag and my only under exposure to Gundam is Wing so maybe I'm missing something here
Seed isn't awful. The dub is, and Seed Destiny is. Seed is just a modern retread of the original, with more fanservice and teen angst.
Yet it lacks most of the soul the original had.
Wasn't Gundam Seed the one where the main character cucked the ever living shit out of that nerdy side character with glasses so much so he died almost the next episode? The girl was so addicted to the main character's dick she called her boyfriend a beta infront of everybody. That is how I remember it. Oh, and then the boyfriend tried to attack the main character, rightfully so and the main character beat his ass and said "I have better genetics then you, don't bother" or something like that?
that's about right, but it turns out the girl was BPD or whatever like most hot millenial (and I guess now zoomer) girls, but somehow the main character redeems himself by getting with an idolu (who was also the rival character's fiancee)
so he cucks two people, the first one is a yamcha and the second one is a vegeta
You know, I'm coming back around on this and thinking it's genius, because it's, what, nearly 20 years hence, and we're still using this as an entryway into talking about the entire DCAU?
So now I think it's great.
Honestly, as much as I hate how dumb this is, a part of me thinks it could have been genius if they had just taken it to an extreme.
>Obsessed with Batman, Amanda Waller designs a project to steal Batman's sperm and impregnate women with bat babies
>Batman constantly on the run from secret agents trying to get his bat sperm
>Amanda Waller just keeps getting women pregnant with bat babies
>There are now thousands of bat babies out there
>Too many to keep track of
>Amanda Waller gets run out of the government over the '100 billion dollar secret bat rape baby' program
>No one knows where the thousands of bat babies are now
>Can't contrive bat origins for them all
>All of them have the Bruce Wayne genes, but some just become selfish, some become rich, some become genius criminals, like none of them become Batman, its a mess
>Huge wave of kids claiming they are the secret son of Bruce Wayne, genetic tests confirm Bruce is the father
>None of these women ever knowingly had sex with Bruce Wayne, but these kids look exactly like Bruce
>Wayne fortune divided up in thousands of lawsuits
>Everyone assumes the playboy Wayne fortune heir raped all of these women
>Bruce Wayne goes down in history as the most prolific rapist in the history of rapists
>Bruce has Terry seek Waller so the rape batbaby plan is exposed and Bruce's reputation is finally cleared
>Terry goes through a senile Suicide Squad until he finally gets to Waller
>Amanda has no memory of the events until Terry figures it out
>of course, no other man could orchestrate such a degenerate plan
>as Amanda turns his back on him, Terry leans in and whispers to her ear
>"The Jokerz have yet to be raped, though"
>Amanda's face twitches and contorts, a thick white mustache emerges between her lips and her mustache and a white pompadour grows on her head
where are the AI vocaroos of Jim detailing what he did to the Joker?
Damn I still have my account, I gotta get on that.
Wayne goes down in history as the most prolific rapist in the history of rapists
I chuckled
It's funny to me just how much Timm being a 70's kid is lost on people and how much it affected the DCAU. Dude made Kojak be Lex Luthor.
Most of the of fags using Cinemaphile ow weren't even alive when Batman Beyond aired
I laughed so fucking hard when Venture Bros mentioned The boys from Brazil.
It caught me so off guard.
fucking GPT-3 post
He's not wrong
Reminder that Terry saved his psychic e-boi when Bruce couldn't.
I don't remember Bad End Beyond saving anyone who had anything like a terminal condition.
Good.
Given the other creepy sex shit Bruce Timm has shoehorned into his post DCAU content we should have all noticed this a lot sooner.
>Given the other creepy sex shit Bruce Timm has shoehorned into his post DCAU content
I swear to god if your only example is TKJ movie Brian azzarello wrote, I'm going to moon you
Name 3 other examples.
>Bruce knocked up Batgirl in a canon DCAU comic, completely destroying his relationship with Nightwing who later got an abortion via miscarriage by mugger.
>Made Harley Quinn his co-creation with Paul Dini a frankenstein monster stripper serial killer in Gods and Monsters.
>Gods And Monsters also had his version of Wonder Woman have sex with Steve Trevor in front of the dead bodies of their enemies.
There's a few more I've heard of but haven't seen myself. I'll see if I can find them.
The first one isn’t even by him you jackass.
Didn't he sign off on it?
No. You have no idea how these comics work. Timm can’t do shit about what DC does without him.
>Nightwing who later got an abortion
i didn't even know he was pregnant
bump
Roman royalty very frequently adopted and considered it a chad thing to do. In fact, the fall of Rome's golden age literally comes from the transition to inherited royalty over adopted royalty.
Romans adopted promising younger men and teenagers, they didn't say to a gladiator "hey Shintintegorix, use your keltic dick to impregnate my roman wife while africanus watches, he'll get a shot next week".
By "adopted" you mean they made their bastards part of their mainline family without exposing that they had illegitimate children.
The early Roman emperors adopted actual blood relatives retard, not strangers off the street. Claudius was the first emperor to not be from the Julio Claudian family and that's because he took power through a coup
where's jotoros hat at???
>Being Batman is in the blood.
I fucking hated this.
People here read comic books, right? None of timmy's ideas are original. He was just adapting the stories from the comic books. Star labs was a big deal during the 90's and early 2000's
That is litterally the stupidest fucking story ever made.
And you can tell by how dark and dumb as hell Batman Beyond is that Mcdufffie and Cooke had nothing to do with it.
>Don't know the lex luthor clone saga
>Star labs was a big deal during the 90's and early 2000's
Back in the 90's, they told Johns to fuck off with his idea that Superboy was a Lex Luthor clone. Superboy was just the clone of a random guy made to look like Superman because Kryptonian DNA was too hard to match. Kon was a good person entirely based on his own, not genetics.
AMANDA WALLER I NEED THAT CADMUS SPERM NANO TECH
WE MUST CONTINUE THE REDFIELD LINEAGE, BUT ONLY LEON KENNEDY'S SPERM WILL DO!
I keked
Aniki is borrowing it
I thought it was fine. I really loved Epilogue, but buff terry was an unexpected design choice
Terry looked so weird in justice league
It really doesn’t make sense because Terry and Bruce have nothing in common skills wise
It's easy to forget that we watch Terry when In action when he's merely a teen that hasn't even finished high school when Bruce didn't put on the mask until after decades of training