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"If you spare my dad, I'll be your willing bride"
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Cause she's a conniving space witch
**spoilers**
You'd have a point if Paul's power level wasn't a few tiers above anyone else's.
This. By Paul marrying her, he tricks the Bene Gesserit into thinking they will get control of Paul and his heir through Irulan, but Paul cucks them, by literally refusing to have sex with Irulan and only impregnating Chani, which mindfricks Irulan so hard that she becomes his willing and loyal tradwife and stops working the Reverend Mother.
Leaving me ample opportunity to cuck him and impregnate princess slampiggy
Sounds like the author’s self-insert fantasy, do people actually like this crap?
Sounds like you haven't read it and therefore don't deserve an opinion
All fiction is self-insert fantasy, that's why people write and read it. It's wish fulfillment, you utter moron. Are you 12 years old?
>I haven't read any real books
Unironically using that phrase means you should have a nice day.
>the garbage I watch is isekai anime tier garbage so everything is
lol, lmao even
Paul is the opposite of a character you want to self insert as, stop punishing us with your low IQ.
>Paul is the opposite of a character you want to self insert as,
>handsome
>capable
>had two fremen wives
>one princess begging for his cum
Right....
>insecure and haunted by his decisions
>loses his sight and prescience
>wife dies in childbirth
>conspiracy against him
>wanders into desert to die
>stabbed to death
>son rules empire as totalitarian state
Yes, you might want to actually read the books.
>loses his sight and prescience
He still "watched" through his presience moron
to death
After cursing muad'dib, he died as a man knowing his son will save the universe
>He still "watched" through his presience moron
Until the end of the book when Leto is born and he loses it entirely, which is why he has to look through Leto's eyes to kill the assassins.
>After cursing muad'dib, he died as a man knowing his son will save the universe
No, he rejected the Golden Path and told his son to live his life rather than worrying about what the future has in store, and sadly Leto rejected that. Once again, his life is intentionally portrayed as a tragedy.
Once again read the shit, Paul didn't know humanity would go extinct without the golden path, Leto tells him it's necessary, Paul accepts this
Incorrect, I just reread the chapter, he never agrees that Leto should do what he's going to do, and says accepting the Mahdinate made him a bad leader because he compromised his principles. He still chooses to destroy the legend of Muad'Dib.
>. He still chooses to destroy the legend of Muad'Dib.
He accepted the Godhead for Chani. He goes with leto to the city because he accepted what leto must do, he has to destroy muad'dib the god, for the Golden path to begin
>he is an slave to the fremen,as much as they are to him.
>he genocides most of the galaxy.
>everyone surounding him is as crazy or crazier than him,forcing him to be even more fanatic.
>his children are doomed because of him and his creepy legacy.
>everyone will remember him as a ruthless tirant.
but yeah,he is cool,strong,and gets pussy.
I like how in Messiah the reverend mother practically calls her an unfrickuble insufferable b***h
Yet she's consistently described as one of the most beautiful women in the universe. I was sad for her. I also liked how the Corrinos tend to be historians and prefer to look into the past rather than the future. Quite symbolic
She is beautiful, but she's such a backstabbing whining b***h it takes away all her looks bonuses. Doubt you'd tolerate that kind of woman.
In the books she's a b***h at first because Paul won't frick her, but eventually submits and becomes nice.
wtf, is Paul gay?
Paul didn't want to betray Chani's love and had no feelings for Irulan. In Messiah he didn't give a frick what Irulan did but if she bore a child he would've had her and the child killed
>In Messiah he didn't give a frick what Irulan did but if she bore a child he would've had her and the child killed
Goes on to poison Chani with birth control that makes her die when she became pregnant anyways
Her purpose was to have his kid so the bene gesserit had Paul's bloodline under their control. Pual refusing to procreate with her was a massive frick you to the bene gesserit.
Oh and also revenge on the emperor by ending his bloodline.
The bene gerresit then hatch a potential plan to get him to frick his sister.
Only if it's the Virginia Madsen version
Chani isn’t ugly zendaya in the books
He loved chani, and a child with irulan would be playing into the BG's plans
It's easier if you imagine chani as a typical tanned fit tomboy girl. You wouldn't betray her, would you?
What game is this ?
The scramble vice, it's not out yet
Too bad, it looks like a fun appleseed game
To be fair, that's how Chani looks like in the books so this is accurate. Just a fit Sophia Lillis would've been perfect.
No, he is a Sigma DUNCmale
well Paul executes the Reverend mother at the end of Messiah, so...
>most beautiful woman in the universe
>unfrickuble insufferable b***h
Is there any explanation to this phenomenon? I noticed that the most beautiful girls I have ever had sex with were very lackluster in bed whereas the average looking ones were incredible. And this even includes the escorts I had sex with. I even spoke with friends and they shared the same experience that the 10/10s they were with were terrible in bed and the 5/10 were sex demons
Why?
attractive people get things for free. all of the time. it becomes there expectation- reward without effort. Why would sex and bedroom fun be the exception to them?
You ever watch american psycho?
Beautiful woman ruin the illusion by speaking. A verry common problem.
When you live life on ez mode there is no reason to improve.
Great fricking casting then
Because if they do it the right way then Paul becomes the legal inheritor of the empire. Play more CK2.
Except they already don't accept him. Might as well behead the dad and rape her right then and there to assert dominance.
Marrying the princess of the old dynasty is to make the general population of dumb peasants accept you, not the other rulers who are going to try and fight your control regardless. If he had done that it would have been even worse.
In the book everybody accepts him as Emperor, it's just that immediately afterwards his Fedaykin Death Commandos and the rest of the fighting Fremen want to go drink, murder, and rape their way across the universe through all the planets that have just declared their loyalty to Emperor Paul Atreides but have not necessarily accepted Muad'Dib as their lord and savior.
>they don't support me so I'll antagonize them.
And that's why you'll never wield any meaningful power.
>Play more CK2
Thanks, but I'm not autistic
You're using Cinemaphile. You're autistic by default.
My condolences
What are you doing on our site then?
You’re on Cinemaphile, you’re already autistic.
in CK2 all you would be able to do is press a wife’s claim as casus belli to put her on the throne, because it conveniently ignores how a husband of a queen rules in their own right
>ignores how a husband of a queen rules in their own right
Historically this has not been the case.
I dont even know who he could be referring too. The monarch reigned, not their spouse, no matter if it was a Queen.
i refer to several queens of jerusalem, byzantium, the iberian kingdom, and across the rest of the continent who lost power due to marriage, or similarly refuses marriage due to the political ramifications
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jure_uxoris
Your wife can make your life a living hell if she gets her mind on it
Only in cucked western countries
>Only in cucked western countries
You have not met any asian women
The difference is that you beat the shit out of asian women and that settles it, with white women she will divorce you, take your children and your house and accuse you of rape, and everyone will believe her.
LOL
LMAO even.
This guys life is largely an example of women fricking with him and stringing him on.
Yes, your right, old 'enry was the real victim here.
you can't do what he did these days though
You can in the Dune universe, doofus
why would anyone marry their daughter to your house if you're just going to cut her head off?
>those calves
That dangly dagger must be so annoying
Gods he was strong.
You have to put a stop to it as soon as it starts. Soon after the nagging over things that didn't matter started, I yelled at her one time, told her I wasn't going to live like that, and it stopped.
Good, women check their men in case they turn into punks. You passed her test.
Just kidding, I'm not even married. Sucker.
You got me, here I thought you had sex but the egg was on my face the entire time!
marry an autistic girl and you won't have to deal with this insane c**tian power dynamic shit
happily married 7 years now
You are fricking delusional if you think marrying the female equivalent of a Cinemaphile incel is going to be fun.
You are fricking delusional if you think that marriage has anything to do at all with having fun
My wife is autistic. It's meant easier shit tests but not a complete lack of them.
dude looked like he smelled of dirt already
why would you save him, old frick probly had 2 months left in him
>SPARE MY FATHER AND I WILL BECOME YOUR BRIDE PAUL!
>Ahahaha nice try but I already have a wome-
>*turns his head to look at Chani then quick turns his head back to the Princess then back to Chani then back to the Princess*
>You know on second thought...
Kek
>you drive a hard bargain...but we have a deal
*firm handshake*
Denis completely fricked up the romance in Dune. It's a good looking movie and for the most part I enjoyed it but man did he frick over key characters and their motives.
>Denis completely fricked up the romance in Dune.
Still did it better than Alan Smithee. Also, waste of quads.
Seethe more homosexual
"If you spare my dad, I'll let you rape me" doesn't sound as good as that. Also, I'm not sure that would be rape, anyways.
He never has sex with her.
I know. But imagine you're on her shoes, what's the alternative?
Fricking some pool boy like a dried out roastie I guess. It's the staple of many pornos.
I meant what are you supposed to tell Paul at that moment.
I'd go with "Cope, seethe and dilate".
NECKLESS FREAK
AAAAAAAAAAH BARON SAVE ME
She knows the empire inside out, better than Paul does. If he gets on her back side she'll undermine him at every turn and any steps he could take would be that much harder. Why buy yourself that problem when you can simply not kill an old man?
If she tries to undermine him or betray him just kill her. She has zero power except her name, Paul has to destroy the great houses anyway. A dumb b***h is nothing.
Paul doesn't have the loyalty of the Great Houses but he does have the loyalty of the royal apparatus since Irulan agreed to marry him and Shaddam kissed the ring. Killing her would pass them off and he needs their loyalty alongside the Fremen.
You want to have some legitimacy so your enemies can submit to you without being completely dishonorable to their oaths.
Also being an usurper encourages other people to try their luck as well and you might end up being usurped yourself rather quickly.
Being part of a dynasty is a good PR move because you can claim the goodwill people have for your predecessors.
Go ask Henry VI how that worked out
I guess it's better to be around someone who is pleasant than someone who is unpleasant.
Having your claim to the throne plot against you is probably not the best place to be in
Irulan really is a tragic character. Even after all her shittery in Messiah when Paul finally walks off into the desert Mohiam says that Irulan really did end up loving him and is in mourning. I look forward to her having a bigger role in Messiah which I think is what Denis was setting up by giving her more screen time in Part 2 compared to the novel.
How is he going to frick up Messiah? Especially all the frickery he did with these two
He probably won't, he properly did the setup for Paul's arc there. I imagine he's just going to downplay Leto II since he's said he has no plan to go into Children of Dune or God Emperor. Maybe he'll change it so Chani is part of the conspiracy but I doubt it.
I understand God Emperor being completely unadaptable, but I still dont get why he wont do Children of Dune
he basically said that each film takes a ton of work, and he'd be a bit sick of working on the same project for 9 years (6 for dunc, and 3 whenever he does messiah)
he's going to do another film between now and messiah though to give him a break of working out in the desert
>Give him a break from working in the desert
Yes - that Egyptian epic will certainly do that
Please dont tell me he's doing Cleopatra
>why he wont do Children of Dune
He erased Alia. He is not going to do a movie about two super smart toddlers
>He erased Alia
he casted our girl for her already though and shot the scenes
He wants to tell the story of Paul the white fake messiah who manipulates the noble brown fremen to his cause to take over the galaxy, only to get crushed under his own hubris. The noble useful idiots realize what they have become and break free of his manipulations. The End.
He doesn't want to tell the story about how two super-humans are smarter than everyone else around them thanks to their genetic superiority. Who lead humanity to the golden age via god-like prescience and thousands of years of oppression and manipulation
So basically the point of the original book?
Nta but correct, except he's a israelite and not white.
No that's not the point of the first book
Yes it is, not the only point, but it was a major point Frank was trying to make.
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Part of the reason he wrote Dune Messiah was because people didn't understand that, so he had to make it even clearer.
Frank's point had to do with cults of personality, not race. At least that's how I understood it.
you're imposing race onto it, the point in the movies remains the same as the point of the book
>God Emperor being completely unadaptable
People claim that, and yet a children's cartoon was able to do a pretty bang up job of it.
Yes it's unadaptable because it's too cartoony.
>paul becomes the abomination (not alia)
>chani takes irulan's place in the conspiracy
>no leto & ghanima
>alia takes leto's place instead
i hope i'm wrong obviously
That's exactly how that cuck will twist the story.
>Leto=abomination is already set up by him killing the baron instead of alia and no alia in general in part two
>Chani, Irulan and Alia overthrow ebil white imperialist male and turn Dune into feminist green paradise
I seriously cannot fathom how a person as competent in his profession as Villeneuve is at the same time the definition of a useful idiot.
>How is he going to frick up Messiah?
Welll since there was no concubine talk at all in part 2 Chani won't be by his side, Irulan won't beg for an heir. These two will probably team up to take down Paul or some shit. Since that feminist cuck vileneuve wont have them hate each other for the evil white male. Alia will be a b***h too probably a lesbian
>Irulan really is a tragic character.
Frick no. She is a conniving b***h who poisoned chani and prevented her from having children for years, she needed to die but her cuck fate was better
She was manipulated into it by the Bene Gesserit, all because Paul told her he'd never frick her so that the Bene Gesserit could usurp their ubermensch child. All the while she has come to love Paul and he barely interacts with her except to confirm she's just a tool to him. If she did it because she just wanted the thrill of having power as an empress and PA isn't giving her that she'd be a b***h, but she's doing it out of love which makes her tragic.
>the Bene Gesserit could usurp their ubermensch child. All the while she has come to love Paul and he barely interacts with her except to confirm she's just a tool to him
Because she goes to discuss treason with her sisters, how can she expect any sympathy from him when she is a traitor? If she was less of a conniving b***h maybe things would be different also maybe not poisoning the woman paul loves
She only did that after Mohiam got in her ear and after Paul has repeatedly confirmed for the last 12 years he gives no shits about her. Imagine you're her, you have to marry the guy who overthrew your father, but despite that you've accepted your role and even come to have feelings for him. Then he tells you he has no plans to treat you as his wife and in fact won't even sleep with you to give you and heir. Instead, his consort who he actually loves will do that, which means the end of your bloodline. I'd be angry too.
>anon lacking a serious understanding of muslim harems politics and the nature of women
This anon has the right of it
Bad enough that she the Empress has lost a good chunk of political power, but now shes not even allowed to have a heir?
So she does the thing many harem women do, poison the consort and keep her infertile.
Paul will then get desperate for a heir as well as distraught that the love of his life has died.
And oh look a comforting shoulder to cry on.
In context willing means she won´t openly put Paul´s rule legitimacy in doubt. A consented political union means the other houses won´t be able to justify their revolts under her figure, consolidate an Irulan faction and call Paul usurper. This means their war can be treated as a rebellion tantamount to treason and they can all be stripped of any rights that come with nobility and executed as traitors under military law.
But everyone there sees she agreed just to save her father. It was under duress.
It was a negotiation after a duel. The equivalent of capitulation after a war. Paul offered terms and Irulan accepted. It´s a compromise between forces.
>This means their war can be treated as a rebellion tantamount to treason and they can all be stripped of any rights that come with nobility and executed as traitors under military law.
It's a jihad dumbass, nobody gives a frick about military law or noble title, all will be put to the sword in the name of God
That's how the troops see it, the nobles and history want a different version
>the nobles and history
In all of the sequels the only people who even slightly care about the pre-Muad'Dib empire are Shaddam's daughters. Literally everyone else does not give a single shit. The only other "reactionaries" to show up are Fremen and Fremen-adjacent who want a desert Arrakis again instead of a green one, and constant BG plotting and scheming (who really just want control of the Kwisatz Haderach) and none of them care about who sits on what throne.
Was about to say this. It's just politics, baby.
Was Walken's life really in danger though? He chose a champion to fight in his stead. That dude lost/died. And as such, he was honor bound to support Paul Atretis as the new ruler.
Yeah, Shaddam IV has to accept abdication and permanent exile to Salusa Secundus or the Fremen will kill him
>white men bad the movie
why were the harkonens so incompetent? they did absolutely nothing in the entire movie besides fail and fail again.
But they were competent
Blame Frank. He did not make it clear enough that they were in decline. He should have based it off Napoleons Old Guard being used as deterrence to the point they lost their will and skill to fight. Then when they were finally sent out in waterloo, they ran away
Are you talking about the Sardaukar?
My morale might break too if within 30 seconds of hitting the front lines over 25% of me and my war buddies got instantly shredded.
The Sardaukar didn't run away, the Fremen just had too much of an advantage when it came to fighting on Arrakis and then Paul's control of the Navigator's Guild meant they couldn't even move their forces around in the aftermath.
The entire books have them scheming for almost every single super convoluted spy assassin bs. What they didn't account for was him having a daughter, said daughter falling in love with the Duke and then israeliteing their way with the Arabs.
In the books Rabban was supposed to be the fall guy who would piss off Fremen and make it impossible for Leto to recruit them. Once Atreides were out of the picture, Feyd Reutha was to take over and manage the place more sensibly and thus be lauded as a hero
Like swing voters?
Typical.
The first book covers galactic politics really well, even though it's only a small part of the overall story. All the actors go about their plans pretty sensibly and none of them are morons, unlike a certain poltics focused franchise where the plot is driven by one unexplainable blunder after another, by people who should objectively know better
Why would you give the most important world in the Empire to the House you are trying to destroy?
Because now they're out of their element. The plan was always to then immediately destroy them and give it back to the Harkonnens. "The Emperor sent us here to die."
>they're out of their element
The plan was to get leto to frick up so bad that he is hated by the fremen that way raubann comes in as a hero and the fremen keep the spice production up. All of that gets fricked by Paul. They were trying to get rid of leto from the start to ensure the power that be stayed and gained more power without having to work so hard for it.
MEET THE NEW BOSS
SAME AS THE OLD BOSS
To bait the trap.
>The emperor has bestowed upon you this shitty world, in the interest of fairness you must leave your good world behind and head to this shit one
>nah im good
Its not like this kind of deal hasnt been done before.
Forgot pic
Because Atreides were untouchable on their home planet. They were supposed to go to Arrakis drain their strength on fighting the Fremen, with low spice production driving a wedge between Atreides and other great houses and the Spacer guild. Harkonnens couldn't do it on their own since they were a minor house and Emperor couldn't approach any of the houses other than Harkonnens. But Leto is no fool either, he sends Duncan ahead to forge alliances and gather intel. In fact he was likely to succeed if the Emperor gave him a bit more time. It's plans within plans
The Harkonnens are a great house.
They were sabotaged. They were left about a third of the materiel necessary to harvest spice and were going to have none of the experts necessary, had Gurney not managed to talk some into staying. The duke would fail, the production of spice would stop, and the stockpiles of spice that the Emperor and Baron have would skyrocket in value.
Piter was the fall guy that was supposed to be hated for Feyd to come in to replace, had he not been killed by Yueh's poison.
>piter
But was that before or after they killed leto? I honestly can't remember anymore it's been decades for me.
after they killed leto.
The joint Harkonnen/Sardaukar attack occurs so quickly, before Leto ever has a chance to frick things up so I have to imagine it was always the plan, that said, the Baron only gives Piter the choice between Jessica and running Arrakis for him after they capture the Duke. I don't know why they attack so soon so maybe plans change and they were originally planning on having Leto become hated, but the motivation behind attacking so quickly after the Atreides arrived is not clarified. That said, it took the Baron decades to save up the bribes necessary to use the Sardaukar and use the Guild transports so I doubt it'd change on a whim. Perhaps the fall guy was mutable and he just saw an opportunity to use Piter at that time.
Kek he would be a lazy homosexual and just let anybody take the fall. It's why I am confused today I can't remember what the plan was but I'm ok knowing that they probably just did shit on a whim and we're reactionary on everything that made them schizo out.
> Perhaps the fall guy was mutable and he just saw an opportunity to use Piter at that time.
>Kek he would be a lazy homosexual and just let anybody take the fall
Thats exactly what it is, he just moved onto Rabban
In addition, because the Fremen bribe the Navigators Guild to keep any satellites well the frick away from Arrakis, it's the only place that the trap can be sprung. Any other planet, and the Great Houses will find out that the Emperor sent the Sardaukar to help the Harkonnens and will revolt.
most important question, was she a virgin or not?
She's the virgin cuck queen. Princess of irulan.
QUESTION:
The inhabitants of Dune (planet) are natives, right? How in the frick did they get all this technology? Everything from rail guns to sand mines.
No. The story plays 20000 years in the future. Those are all humans from Earth originally.
Fremen were exiles and refugees. They're closer to Age of Discovery Americans or Australians, than they are to Indians or Abos. Second, most of their technology and knowhow comes from their unofficial leader Liett Kynes, who had access to all of the Empire's technology. Third, it appears a bunch of stuff can be made from spice, including explosives, plastic, rubber, etc. especially in a society ultra dedicated to recycling
Why do they fight with swords if they are in the distant future and must have developed way more advanced weapons?
Because shields make regular projectile weapons useless
Lasers cause an explosive reaction with shields, almost certain they explained this in the first movie. At the very least the bombs that destroyed thr Atriedes ships in Part 1 going really slow to get past the shield should have made that obvious. The Harkonnens finally use laser guns in Part 2 because you can't wear shields in the desert, they attract sandworms.
Remember when the government said you don't need guns?
Well look how that turned out.
I’m really supposed to believe this pig is some kind of beautiful princess?
>"Bride my balls"
LISAN AL GAIB!
Would she be the princess of Ireland, or the desert flower?
blowjobs
Oh, please it's clear he gets daily head from Jessica.
>How can we make Irulan seem like a dickhead?
>WAIT, I'VE GOT IT!
Pugh was very good in this and especially by the end, looked very good and even beautiful (especially facially). She was the only good actor along with Ferguson and (maybe) Butler but I'd say he was more memorable than "good".
She was fine, much better than Zendaya and Walken, but "very good?" The best actors in the movie were Chalamet, Ferguson and Butler, bar none. I'd even throw Bardem in there because I think he nailed what Denis was going for with the character, but some people hated it so eh.
Its better to have a loyal queen than one who will backstab you when its convenient
> Women
> Loyal
LMAO said the Scorpion. LMAO.
That bladed headdress really did something for me. I was imagining her jerking me off while looking up at me through those dangling parts. It was even hotter when it had the face mask part attached.
The most unbelievable part of Messiah is going to be when Paul refuses to frick her in favor of this
She left tho. I have no idea what they're setting up for Messiah at this point. I'm guessing Chani's gonna be one of the conspirators.
My man Paul saw that she'd come around, he told Jessica that.
puff,implying they are going to adapt the real story.
it will be DUNC:JIHAD with a final scene with paul having the twins with irulan and chani dead in the floor.
That is not how chani looks in the books
>tfw Chani is a cute devoted redhead gf with elf features
>then you see movie ((Chani))
depressing
Maybe they can clean her up for Messiah, as official concubine of the emperor it's not like she can look like a dirty sand person
Why didn't they have her hair like that? What's so fricking hard about that? It fits and makes her more attractive and is also book accurate.
God, i hate Villabananas.
You can only imagine the screeching if he did it.
You should remember the screams at 2049 for daring to have naked women and women not being invulnerable.
That skinny mutt is the leader of Feydakin in Duncverse.
Another reason to laugh at Sardaukar and Harkonenn kek so embarrasing being defeated by that
Sardaukar never had a chance, Paul saw the future that would mean their defeat.
That costume really made her attractive. Her eyes are beautiful.
Reminder that Irulan is the in-universe narrator of the first three books. Yet she still writes Chani as Paul's true love.
Irulan's love and loyalty for Mua'dib was real, even if it was not returned.
No you illiterate tard. She’s the writer of the in universe bibles and propaganda, like the Manual of Muaddib, or the Children’s History of Muaddib
The book prose is the real events
I love the Flo I don't care what you gays think
I for once am grateful that we have the cute girl being "the good one" while the mutt goblin is the "bad one" of the movie.
She's an attractive woman with a lot of wifely sex appeal but her sense of style as of late and the lip filters are abhorrent.
her jaw is too strong
Blowjobs day one instead of waiting for Stockholm syndrome to set in
tfw no bookworm princess gf 🙁
Is it true he never has sex with her? If so I'm dropping this film trilogy
He might have nutted in her mouth once or twice, but he would never give away his precious kwisatz haderjizz to a bene gesserbawd
why not? his mom and possessive sister seem pretty cool
Those two aren't beholden to the order anymore. The bene gesserit would want to create their own kwisatz haderach and regain control of the empire.
>tfw no anya taylor joy and rebecca ferguson to be violently protective of you
it's not fricking fair
Is the incest undertones in the book too?
To me this always felt like more of a "look how far we've fallen" scene than an implied incest theme, but in messiah the bg literally want paul to frick his sister, and he comes across her buck naked and sweaty and actually thinks about going for it for a second. The books are much more perverted than the movies.
>why didn’t you frick me bro?
>I foresaw what your lay is like, sorry sis, back to Zendaya
Edited version with no ugly mutt zendaya when?
Surely we are only a year or 2 from AI being able to remove the judah.
Curveless, without cuteness or beauty the mutt is an abomination.
Dune Bros
One problem I had with the movie was that if the prophecy was all manufactured by the Bene Gesserit, then why did the Desert Spring tears actually wake Paul up?
Because Frank Herbert was a shitty writer who lucked out on publishing esoteric concepts at a time before they took massive root in mainstream culture.
The desert spring prophecy isn't even in the book, idiot. Please refrain from future posting in Dunc threads, for the sake of greater board quality.
Oh the horror. They're all fricking shills and piece of shit twitter morons anyway.
Of course, black is beautiful. Evil is good. Rejoice in the Talmud's teachings.
>Of course, black is beautiful. Evil is good. Rejoice in the Talmud's teachings.
You didn't even understand what I wrote.
Brainrot.
Paul has the same poison transmutation ability Jessica has and used it to survive. All the events that "prove" he's the chosen one can be explained away barring the worm being his hype man, but that looked cool so whatever.
It didn't.
He just woke up in that moment. Maybe even intentionally, or at least a part of him did it intentionally.
Remember: the Atreides are master manipulators.
So I as the audience am just supposed to assume that he "chose" to woke up in the moment?
See what drinking did to Jessica. She is not "herself" anymore from many standppoints.
One of my favourite parts in this movie was the harkonnen radio chatter. The pilots were cool too.
I dunno why it just really stuck out to me.
it stuck out for the same reason as the throat-singing in the first movie: because most of it was so boring and lacking personality.
she is insanely attractive, bros..
Paul is a supreme gentleman that would NEVER rape anyone.
He's too frail to rape
>expecting something good or interesting
>most generic final fight possible
>exactly the same as every other iteration for the ending
i dunno you gays were so hyped and praising it endlessly, and literally its fricking nothing new or original in its interpretation of the book/story
>exactly the same as every other iteration for the ending
Imagine posting something that's just 100%, factually, readily-verifiably wrong. Don't (You) me asking why if you seriously don't know, because I won't waste my time talking to someone I seriously doubt manages to tie their own shoes.
nice counter point with 0 facts moron
shit was comically bad with those villains
fricking terrible movie you gays hyped so much holy shit literally a waste of time and nothing improved or even done better than previous movies tv shows . so bad
Holy ESL Batman.
So he can marry into a royal house and literally rule the fricking universe
Because of space feudalism, ya dingbat. He's not marrying her for sex, he's marrying her for legitimacy. Legitimacy that can easily be questioned if there's any question of the marriage being forced.
>inb4 why does he care about legitimacy