Star boy would get more fanart and fan fictions but the stupid starblob will sell more merch and appeal more to people who didn't see the movie. Starblob plushie sales will probably make up tenfold for wish bombing. Financially, I have to admit Disney made the right call.
>Starblob plushie sales will probably make up tenfold for wish bombing.
Hard to say,the star is really forgettable.
I think both Asha and the goat will shelfwarmer like crazy
Shapeshifter! The Star could be a boy and a star! Plushie sales and doll sales! Also more people would want the Star plushie, if Star was an actual character.
>movie ends with magnifico and amaya humiliated and dethroned >they swear revenge but realize that amaya is pregnant >decide to get their revenge by raising the child into the greatest, most beloved ruler ever, and grant all the child's wishes >cute reprise of their villain duet where they sing to their future child
kino
>It was okay
No it wasn't, it was really bad
And it wasn't about taking risks or not taking them at all, rather this is the result if executives wrote the movie on entirely on their own. It was a movie build around references
there is a difference between having references, and building a movie around them. For example the magic wand Asha gets is entirely pointless in the plot, it just exist because it existed in another movie. Or the fate of the villain, it's not justified at all, but he had to end up as the magic mirror from snow white somehow. Or that Asha has 7 friends, even though only 2 of them are of any importance at all. And since there were 7, the two important ones didn't get any screentime necessary at all that would be needed to flesh them out.
Still questioning why they didn't give Asha just 3 friends in reference to Mickey Goofy and Donald
7 months ago
Anonymous
Because Mickey, Goofy and Donald aren't Disney Princesses while Snow White is. It's a gigantic reference mostly to other princess films not just Disney in general
The references are constant because 8 characters in the main cast are indirect but not subtle references to Snow White and the script won't shut up about it.
Asha is the fairy godmother
Magnifico is Magic Mirror
Peter Pan is shown
and the goat says he's starting a place called Zootopia
doesn't get any worse than that
7 months ago
Anonymous
>and the goat says he's starting a place called Zootopia
What the frick
7 months ago
Anonymous
Disney looked at the Pixar Theory and seriously thought it was brilliant
It's explicitly shown in the film. Asha gets the robe & wand of the fairy godmother, Magnifico gets trapped in the shard, despite the book's curse being broken, all because Asha & his wife refuse to let him out. And they KNOW he isn't cursed. Literally everyone sees how the book's curse gets broken. Him getting trapped is just a final "Frick you!" from the book before it's destroyed. Also, the magic mirror has NEVER been evil, even in snow white. He only ever told the truth. This was literally a case of an intern going, "Wait, isn't he completely right and justified, though?" and the rest of the writer's room scrambling to throw something together to try and make him evil (spoiler, they fail) because the women, despite being the literal cause of all the problems in the film (quite literally staging a coup and also forcing people to be unhappy and depressed by having the memories of their unobtainable wishes returned), have to be right as it's a modern disney movie, and women good men bad.
I think the concept of wishing in a Disney world is that the stars will only respond if you're pure hearted AND you've already tried yourself but forces (evil or neutral) keep pushing you back.
So like, Cinderella did try to make her dreams come true with the aid of her mouse friends, but her family screwed her over. Geppetto is implied to be a good member of the community who asks for nothing and lives a simple life, and he kind of tried to make a "son" but all he can make are toys and clocks.
At least, that's what it's supposed to be, but this movie fricks up everything and some dude wants to flap his arms like a bird and fly so he gets his wish granted cause I don't know. Peter Pan's movie proves that was a dangerous fricking wish because he ends up kidnapping children and taking them away to his Pleasure Island, so yeah, maybe Magnifico was right.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Go to Neverland >Immediately almost murdered by pirates >Then almost deliberately drowned by mermaids with no sense of right or wrong
7 months ago
Anonymous
The movie also makes it so that if something good happens to someone, and you know it was a thing they've been wishing for, that you were intentionally passed up because frick you. You run a vegetable stall in town and your neighbor runs the fruit stall, and both of you compete for customers? Well frick you, guess who just got moved to a better location at the market AND got a brand new stall to match? Now you're stuck wondering how you offended the magic black girl and if there's anything you can do to appease your new goddess. Because no matter how hard you try, no matter how much you struggle, some lucky frick gets everything you wanted and more with no effort on their part, simply because magic black girl said so. So why bother working towards anything if you're always last, through no fault of your own?
7 months ago
Anonymous
Reading your post I could only think of this. Weird how two completely unrelated wish based stories came out in the same month.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Reading your post I could only think of this. Weird how two completely unrelated wish based stories came out in the same month.
These people honestly don't believe in free will.
If you have no agency then nothing can be your fault, only The System had agency so everything is The Systems fault.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>so yeah, maybe Magnifico was right.
No maybe's about it, if someone wished for someones elses wish the frick is Magnifco supposed to do grant it?
7 months ago
Anonymous
Later one everyone died because now nobody filters the bad wishes.
7 months ago
Anonymous
or even contradictory wishes because that will spell endless bad blood between neighbors
Yep. Magnifico was not granting bad wishes and keeping the memory of the bad wish from the person who thought of it, as to avoid them having to experience pain, suffering, depression, and trauma like he had to. They live full, happy, rich lives in the kingdom without their bad wishes, but Asha would rather that people be able to remember their impossible wishes because, "What if they want to work towards it even if it's impossible?" even though all of the wishes he kept were explained as being harmful/hurtful/impossible and would only cause pain/suffering if remembered. He wasn't stopping ALL wishes, he was only stopping the bad ones. He did nothing wrong.
Which is funny because people will literally sell their IPs to Disney in hopes of them seeing come to life only to have the company sit on the rights and the artist can't develop their project independently anymore. Yet, those artists will continue to work for the company that stole their "soul" or "ability to wish".
It's like they're unwittingly mocking themselves? Or is it intentional?
Unintentional. They could have made Magnifico a tragic villain, or even a sympathetic one. But instead they dropped the ball and ignored the possibility of that and just forced him in to becoming evil because of a book. And then they forgot that they forced him to be evil and were like, "No he's actually the most evil person ever, that's why he's in the shard now." And hope that the viewer forgot he was cursed, how we (and the entire fricking kingdom) saw how curses were dispelled, saw them get dispelled (including his), and that an evil book of evil would totally never lie to you. Or that Asha could literally wish him back to normal but just chose not to because WOMAN POWER, FRICK YEAH.
The art book even said that Amaya and Magnifico were supposed to be straight up evil from the start, but then they ditched that idea because they "evolved" her character. Meaning they didn't want a woman to be evil in a modern disney film, and needed her to be strong, independent, and correct, so they rewrote her last minute and fricked the plot up. They still made both Asha and Amaya the villains, and anyone who thinks about the plot rather than JUST CONSOOOM with brains off for more than 5 seconds will figure this out themselves. But Disney themselves is too moronic to see what they did.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>that Asha could literally wish him back to normal
Damn, she really could have. What a b***h.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I actually think Amaya is the twist villain on the story, if you pause to think about it for even a moment. She is the one who pushes Asha to Magnifico, she willingly helps stage a coup against him, and she is the one who smirks while sending mirror-Magnifico into the dungeons. She was power hungry, and he wasn't sharing his magic with her, so she decided to take the powers she could get, and become the sole ruler of the country.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Story is so shit it becomes unintentionally brilliant if you assume this supporting character was actually 4d chessting everyone into their plan without them ever realizing it.
Holy frick this is Disney's Other M.
7 months ago
Anonymous
She's both Scar and Hans. Which would have been brilliant if that was Disney's actual intention with the character.
>Mario movie beat all of Disney's slop >Nintendo has its own amusement park >Mario is more popular than Mickey Mouse
How long until Nintendo becomes bigger than Disney?
No, it wasn't. The 100 years anniversary movie should have been a masterpiece. The story was a mess , you could almost see the rewrites. Magnifico was the only good part and don't make me talk about his loyal wife.
At least the movie continues the time-honoured tradition of the female lead having a gratuitous barefoot shot. Magnifico doesn't appear impressed though.
Real question
How much of the 100 year shit do they push on this fricking turd? Like do we get some Walt quote at the start of the movie? Do we get one before the short plays?
Is there just some attempt of them latching onto any words he said to try and make a meaningful quote? Meet the Robinsons got it right, but I can only IMAGINE them misinterpreting why that worked.
Asha is such a c**t. >"Hey kid, this is why we can't grant all wishes. They can be harmful, bad, or unobtainable, and by making people forget those types of wishes, they live really full and happy lives." >BUT MUH GRANDPA'S WISH! GRANT IT TONIGHT RIGHT NOW! >"What the frick, Asha? I literally just told you why I can't." >DON'T CARE. GRANDPA NEEDS HIS WISH GRANTED AND YOU'RE GOING TO GRANT IT OR YOU'RE AN AWFUL EVIL HUMAN BEING >"I'm not granting the wish." >WOOOOOOW LITERALLY SATAN. AT LEAST RETURN IT. >"Did you not hear the part about unobtainable wishes making people sad? Of course you didn't. The answer is still no. I'm not going to let an old man who is near death due to age live out his remaining days in sadness and despair because he's too old to obtain his wish." >WOW, FRICKING HITLER OVER HERE. WELL FRICK YOU, I'LL JUST STAGE A COUP THEN AND RUIN YOUR KINGDOM. >"Please don't." >AND GUESS WHAT? I'LL MAKE SURE YOU HAVE TO WATCH FOREVER AS EVERY BIT OF JOY AND HAPPINESS YOU BROUGHT TO THIS KINGDOM IS REPLACED WITH DESPAIR AND LOATHING. JUST YOU FRICKING WATCH. SELFISH c**t.
Yeeeah. It doesn't help that Magnifico litetally build that whole damn kingdom from ground up, and people chose to come and live there without him forcing them in any way. It'd be one thing if he was just the latest in line of despot rulers, but like... he litetally created that kingdom himself.
Magnifico had just told her about how selfishness destroyed everything he had and was about to make her his apprentice which means she would've ended up just like she ended in the movie, but well trained.
What does the c**t do? Act greedy the moment she found the one orb she wanted.
How does this movie have a similar setup to Alma in Encanto and still manage to frick it up!?
HOLY SHIT, it is like if Mirabel started acting like an entitled brat after Alma shared her past!
This makes me appreciate Encanto more, holy shit.Plus, Encanto had better songs.
No one wants to acknowledge all the good Magnifico did. Or the fact that the queen had anti evil magic oil she never used until it was 'too late to save him'. What a clusterfrick.
Should have had him say "Listen c**t. Your grandpa's wish was to inspire people. I know for smooth brained shitheads like you that sounds good enough but we don't even know what he's inspiring to do? What if he inspires people to start attacking each other? Or inspires everyone to join a suicide pact? If your dipshit grandfather was capable of yammering out a couple more words clarifying things, his wish might have been granted years ago but I'm not risking the well being of this kingdom and its people on one man's wish."
>If your dipshit grandfather was capable of yammering out a couple more words clarifying things, his wish might have been granted years ago but I'm not risking the well being of this kingdom and its people on one man's wish."
At the end they try to fix it saying that the grandpa is the composer of "When you wish upon a star". The song that starts with: >When you wish upon a star >makes no difference who you are >Everything your heart desires >wiLl come to you.
That's the OPPOSITE message the movie was trying to sell, right? Beating Magnifico and torturing him forever was justified because is wrong to have someone grant your wishes for you and you should try to make them come true yourself or whatever.
SO HOW ARE YOU TRYING TO INSPIRE PEOPLE, GRANDPA!?
Grandpappy's wish constantly reminds me of the wish of the main antag in the comic 8 billion genies >I wish people would believe in me
From a quick glance it looks harmless, but thanks to the fact its so ambiguous and ill worded he could essentially brainwash almost everyone into being his followers.
Gragran's wish could well do the same. Who's to say the old fart wouldnt go full Pied Piper if his badly worded "music that inspires people" wish got done?
Yes, if the wish gave him magical music, he would have ended up as magnifico 2.0.
Having to be really careful with his lyrics and to who he was singing for.
Stupid shit like, "I wish I was king!" or "I wish I was the richest in the whole kingdom!" or "I wish my neighbor would die so I could court his widow!". You can also take grandpa's wish as too broad to grant. "My wish is to be an inspiration!" Okay but in what way? Inspire to do what? To whom? It's stupid shit that gets weeded out, and the person never remembers their wish if it's never granted, and instead live happy and without worry. Like, sure. One COULD become king without it being granted through a wish, but then you'd need a reason to be king, funding, followings, etc. and it's a massive undertaking that really wouldn't go anywhere unless you planned a political upheval. And why would you need one? Same thing with money. You'd need something to sell, be able to manage finance, etc. Or if you really wanted the husband's wife to yourself, you could kill him yourself, or rape her, but either of those are illegal and terrible, and you'd ruin your life for it.
>Stupid shit like, "I wish I was king!" or "I wish I was the richest in the whole kingdom!" or "I wish my neighbor would die so I could court his widow!".
So is it just a scam then, is it like "I wish for a Big Mac and a drink?" and then you just take yourself to McDonalds and spend the 10 bucks for someone else to cook it and they count it as a wish granted?
7 months ago
Anonymous
The point was that the citizens lacked ambition. They refuse to do anything on their own because they're weak willed, and they exchange their wishes for happiness and ignorance. Asha staged a coup to "wake them up and return their freedom of choice to pursue their dreams" even though the king asked them if they wanted happiness or their wishes granted, and they chose for them to be granted (because they only care about their selfish wishes being fulfilled.)
It's not a scam, because say you wished for better crop yields, and you plant the crops and do all the work yourself, but they grow 3x as large this year because your wish was granted. But yeah, most of the wishes were really stupid shit like, "I wish I could fly!" and it turns the guy in to peter fricking pan, even though he was building an airplane for wendy before he got his wish granted.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>The point was that the citizens lacked ambition.
Yeah, but there's stuff that wishes would cover where no amount of ambition or determination would fix, and seems like it'd be impossible outside of a wish.
Stuff like "I wish I wasn't born with birth defects", "I wish this plague wasn't ravaging our community" or even just like "I wish I wasn't so damn short", ect. Like what alternative would you have for a bunch of those kind of scenarios outside of the magic of a wish
7 months ago
Anonymous
You wouldn't. And that's just it, Magnifico was helping these people. He WAS granting those wishes, but only if it would help people avoid pain and suffering and help them live full, happy lives. The other wishes he didn't grant were a threat to that safety, happiness, and security of Rosas.
Also, how old is Asha and het father?! The dude had children during his 60s?
7 months ago
Anonymous
That's her grandpa. Her father died when she was twelve.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, but how old are they? 100s years is great-great-grandfather mark.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Asha's 17, Grandpa is very repeatedly said to be 100 on the dot. Someone was pulling an Abraham and having kids really really late.
7 months ago
Anonymous
And the Fricker didn't pick up a lute at any time during that?
7 months ago
Anonymous
Her father doesn't look old, 40s at most.
Grandpa must have been 95 when his son died, and 83 when Asha was born.
So grandpa had a son around his 50s or 60s
7 months ago
Anonymous
So either there was a big age gap between Grandpa and Grandma and Disney can't acknowledge that because that's not kosher anymore or presumably Dad was himself the product of Grandma wishing for a child. Which creates a nasty sort of wishes going wrong thing for Magnifico to be overthrown by a bloodline that only exists because of his magic.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Her father doesn't look old, 40s at most.
Grandpa must have been 95 when his son died, and 83 when Asha was born.
So grandpa had a son around his 50s or 60s
Debunked.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Anon, by splitting the age evenly, we get 41½ years.
It is too old.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Wasn't Encanto weird about that too? Like the triplets were 50 so they didn't start having kid until their 30s.
That's actually a good point. Grandpa would had been someone who moved into the new kingdom Magnifico founded! He either did that with a wife, or more likely, found a much younger wife from the new kingdom, and had a child with her. Grandpa had decades before Rosas even existed to pursue his wish! He was already an old man when he gave his wish to Magnifico!
7 months ago
Anonymous
Ok, I have to continue on this, because it actually kinda blew my mind. So, let's be real generous and say Magnifico is super fit and handsome for his age, and is actually already 60. He looks closer to 50, but for the sake of argument, let's round it up. So, grandpa is at least 40 years older than Magnifico.
Magnifico build the kingdom himself, and was already married to the queen by then. There is no way he could had been younger than 16. That is already ridiculously young, but we are trying to give grandpa every advantage here. Even still, assuming grandpa was amongst the very first who moved to Rosas, he was at the least 56 years old! He had over half a decade of life to try to make that inspiring song, yet he didn't! Either he lacked the skill, lacked the hard work, or lacked the good luck. The wish lottery was already the last ditch effort to chase an impossible dream! Why are we supposed to feel bad for him?!
7 months ago
Anonymous
Ok, I have to continue on this, because it actually kinda blew my mind. So, let's be real generous and say Magnifico is super fit and handsome for his age, and is actually already 60. He looks closer to 50, but for the sake of argument, let's round it up. So, grandpa is at least 40 years older than Magnifico.
Magnifico build the kingdom himself, and was already married to the queen by then. There is no way he could had been younger than 16. That is already ridiculously young, but we are trying to give grandpa every advantage here. Even still, assuming grandpa was amongst the very first who moved to Rosas, he was at the least 56 years old! He had over half a decade of life to try to make that inspiring song, yet he didn't! Either he lacked the skill, lacked the hard work, or lacked the good luck. The wish lottery was already the last ditch effort to chase an impossible dream! Why are we supposed to feel bad for him?!
Same as the writers made the citizens of Rosas bad at math, the were hoping the audiences were too.
They don't quote him. They retcon Cinderella and Snow White instead. And have a bunch of wishes fly past that show various disney character wishes. It's also not so subtle with it's whole, "The wishes represent the old vs. the new, where the old (walt) was selective with the projects he greenlit, but with the new (wokedisney), all projects have a chance if you work hard enough ;)"
>"The wishes represent the old vs. the new, where the old (walt) was selective with the projects he greenlit, but with the new (wokedisney), all projects have a chance if you work hard enough ;)"
That's an interesting take. After watching the film, I had the impression that the story was saying to not rely on the Disney company itself to make your dreams come true, but I guess that would be the equivalent of telling people to not consume Disney product (tm).
>I had the impression that the story was saying to not rely on the Disney company itself to make your dreams come true
That's the conclusion a reasonable person would come to yes.
But the people behind the film believe they are entitles to Disney's resources without any sense of personal accountability.
Which is funny because people will literally sell their IPs to Disney in hopes of them seeing come to life only to have the company sit on the rights and the artist can't develop their project independently anymore. Yet, those artists will continue to work for the company that stole their "soul" or "ability to wish".
It's like they're unwittingly mocking themselves? Or is it intentional?
Yeah, I remember a while ago someone leaked number of cartoon pilots that nobody had any idea they existed because once people work for Disney the artist ideas is property of the company Is kind of wild to imagine there must be dozen maybe even hundreds projects that will never see the light of day because the people making them work in Disney.
At least with other companies if the project doesn't materialize they can go and shop it in other places or even do them themselves.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>there must be dozen maybe even hundreds projects that will never see the light of day because the people making them work in Disney.
Hm. So maybe the film itself is only secondarily for the general public audience and primarily for Disney employees who need to stay within the Mouse cult to keep it alive and functioning.
Or maybe my tinfoil had is on a bit too tight. I just think it's a, not good, but interesting movie from a completely meta perspective.
7 months ago
Anonymous
This and the Dumbo remake have this meta commentary about Walt Disney the person, they badguy from Dumbo was this rich guy trying to capture child like wonder in his circus and Magnifico is this powerful guy monopolizing magic. In a way both are an aspect of Walt Disney who was consider over controlling on his day. And interesting enough both villains in those movies get a sloppy "become evil" plotpoint that doesn't really work in either movie.
I think is an interesting idea but at the same time kind of dumb because the people working at Disney today are like 2 or 3 generations too young to ever have know the flesh and bones Walts so they aren't really criticizing a man as much as the memory of a man, instead of criticizing the powers that currently run the company and are ruining the it and culture in general.
7 months ago
Anonymous
It's like they're trying to defeat the spirit of Walt Disney. Interesting.
7 months ago
Anonymous
He is far too powerful.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Disney the man but while keeping Disney the company (the true villain) out of scrutiny.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I actually think Amaya is the twist villain on the story, if you pause to think about it for even a moment. She is the one who pushes Asha to Magnifico, she willingly helps stage a coup against him, and she is the one who smirks while sending mirror-Magnifico into the dungeons. She was power hungry, and he wasn't sharing his magic with her, so she decided to take the powers she could get, and become the sole ruler of the country.
>Story is so shit it becomes unintentionally brilliant if you assume this supporting character was actually 4d chessting everyone into their plan without them ever realizing it.
Holy frick this is Disney's Other M.
>Magnifico is Walt Disney the a harsh but well meaning ruler who is also the face that gets blamed for everything wrong in the world >Amaya is Kathleen Kenned a manipulative evil woman taking power though nepotism and by backstabbing the ones who did the actual work. >Amaya represents the newer generations that think by "taking down the man" have won and made the world better not realizing they just gave the keys to the kingdom to someone worse.
Lets push this idea, it turns this mediocre movie into something brilliant.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Magnifico is this powerful guy monopolizing magic.
It's fricking funny how much the cat movie anticipated this one and didn't frick up.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Actually, anyone could learn magic. It's just that none of them have the discipline to do so. That's why he was so disappointed in Asha. He was about to make her his apprentice, but she immediately betrayed his trust.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Even the Wonder Woman sequel does the whole wish thing better than Wish.
No, see, she's not white you're just racist that she's one of those mixed girls that gets lighter with age. She was always black, because this movie says so. Frick modern Disney. "Put a chick in it and make her lame and gay!" keeps holding up to be true.
Does the wife know about Magnifico's past? Because that would make her even more of a b***h that she would leave his ass and take control of the Kingdom. I wouldn't be surprised if it's her or her family line that spits out said Wicked Queen from Snow White and said descendant of the old Wish queen, dies.
Yeah, she does. She's shown in the book at the beginning and when Magnifico is freaking out and she tries to calm him, he points at the burnt tapestry and tells her he's trying to stop the same thing from happening again.
>Magnifico sees Asha attempt to take him down with her gang. >Magnifco simply wish for her to die from a fatal heart attack. >Magnifco won and Asha's gang become afraid and immedately obeys him again so he won't wish them to dead.
Magnifico wasn't evil. He just wanted the star gone, and he couldn't magic it away normally. If the stupid star that was shitting wishes went away, everything would be fine. The only place to find that information, so he thought, was the evil book full of lies that cursed him.
Which isn't what Disney is known for. They always made semi-family values safe media to sell little girls dolls and more recently little boys action figures. Let your kids watch secret of nimh or ferngully or the like for moral lessons.
Lion King, the Hunchback, Mulan and others were also children's movies that had politics in them but didn't end up as incoherent messes. Your justification is pathetic and you should be ashamed of yourself.
Thats from a onion type site, it was sourced from The Onion itself but other onion type sites have pick it up.
I'm sorry, please stop posting anti-Japanese lies.
7 months ago
Anonymous
but that's wrong
7 months ago
Anonymous
No, it's right, please stop posting anti-Japanese content from parody sites posting fake news.
7 months ago
Anonymous
You are mistaken thoughever
7 months ago
Anonymous
Thats from a writer from a onion type site, he makes up fake news.
FRICK OFF ZAINICHI KOREAN!!!!
7 months ago
Anonymous
incorrect
7 months ago
Anonymous
More fake news from a parody site's and writer's Twitter account; FRICK OFF!
7 months ago
Anonymous
wrong
7 months ago
Anonymous
STOP POSTING FAKE NEWS FROM A AUTHOR FRON A PARODY/FAKE NEWS SITE YOU STUPID FRICKING ZAINICHI KOREAN!!!!
7 months ago
Anonymous
nuh uh
7 months ago
Anonymous
Sometimes I wonder if these posts are a form of false flag, since they drown out all bashing against Disney
7 months ago
Anonymous
That short actually came out though, we had threads about it.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, I know, but the screencap spam makes anti-disney opinions look unhinged by association.
7 months ago
Anonymous
That short actually came out though, we had threads about it.
And it turned out that it was never on Disney+ but rather SNL.
7 months ago
Anonymous
SNL Sketch.
Its literall a fricking homosexual in a trans flag talking about what he takes for his period
Do you morons even bother to look up these vids to see whos full of shit or not?
7 months ago
Anonymous
Thats a SNL Sketch, it was on SNL; Do you even know what SNL is?
We even had threads about it back in the day as it's not the only cartoon segment SNL had.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Then post the nonexistent skit instead of something that has nothing to do with the topic
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Thats a SNL Sketch, it was on SNL; Do you even know what SNL is?
No it fricking isn't.
7 months ago
Anonymous
SNL Sketch.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Passamaquoddy is the name of the town from Pete's Dragon.
Not really relevant but I thought it was interesting.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>He doesn't know where Ursula came from.
7 months ago
Anonymous
The character designer said that is not true at all and is just a weird myth people made up after the fact because howard ashman was gay
More fake news from a parody site's and writer's Twitter account; FRICK OFF!
why are pedos such lying piece of shits when theres a video playing in the background and several other sites calling them out? What is wrong with you as a human being?
You know? it kind of hit me but this entire movie style is based on Spain back when it was more Persian that European, why the frick is this little star not a genie? I know Disney already has a Genie but it also has like 6 different wish granting fairy characters.
People are trying to deny that Wish made a Disney multiverse and that the easter eggs are just silly references. But according a talk with the Wish team:
https://www.gamesradar.com/wish-disney-multiverse-easter-eggs-interview-exclusive/
>When the queen was evil her design was a woman of color >When they turned the queen good they made her white
Getting mixed messages from the designers.
>that first one
oh what a tearjerker, I cried when I found out Magnifico wasn't granting the one suicidal guy his wish to "wipe out all of humanity and make them suffer" oh what a cruel dictator!!!
It was really heart warming when Star gave the Eyeglass its wish of being able to BURN everything and the scissors their wish to fricking shank whatever is in front of them.
>it's possible that some of those wishes he's rejected include asking for their loved ones to be healed of a terminal illness
And this troper has reason to believe this is true because???
>Disney 100th movie is the one where they fall into the multiverse/shared universe shit
I can't wait for the mental hoops they'll jump through to link shit like Toy Story and Chicken Little together
Asha is the fairy godmother
Magnifico is Magic Mirror
Peter Pan is shown
and the goat says he's starting a place called Zootopia
doesn't get any worse than that
TVtropes always make shit up out of nowhere. They're also extremely pozzed and deliberately block all negative reception from being added into the pages to any wokeshit media they like. If they do add them they make up shit instead of the actual truth. Just look at their She-Hulk and The Marvels YMMV pages.
Of course they did. The "good" thing about Dibsey adults is that thy eatch and make the page as soon as possible. The bad thing is that they suck Disney Corporation with the sucktion of a million prostitutes
The Super Mario Bros Movie.
Remember, the academy is as racist as frick, Toy Story 4 won over South Korea's Parasite STRICTLY because Toy Story 4 was made by white people.
Spirited Away won in 2002, that was the only time a Asian film won STRICTLY because the other films that year were Raspberry Award material to the academy.
If better movies made by white people were in the 2002 Oscars Spirited Away would've lost.
>Among its numerous accolades, Parasite won the leading four Academy Awards at the 92nd Academy Awards: Best Picture, Best Director, Best Original Screenplay, and Best International Feature Film, becoming the first non English-language film to win the Academy Award for Best Picture
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasite_(2019_film)
???
>YOU WERE THERE FOR 50 YEARS AND YOU NEVER EVEN TRIED BEFORE EVEN GIVING OVER YOUR WISH
I have to be misunderstanding this there is no way the conflict is this 100 year old man disappointed he didn't win the lottery after buying 1 ticket
So explain the wish thing to me, The villain can just make every wish possible no downsides and the main girl gets mad at him for not doing it? feels a little moronic of a plot what happened with ''magic has limits''?
I've never seen this movie but what's with the mirror thing? It seems a little fricked up for a movie that is otherwise lighthearted. Especially for a villain I personally see as sympathetic and well-intentioned.
This felt it was aimed at kids more than past disney films.
all disney movies are for kids you mong
>b-but le panda movie is so mature it talks about periods and yaoi
frick off
>b-but le panda movie is so mature it talks about periods and yaoi
I was so confused thinking you were talking about kung fu Panda.
Imagine what it could have been
Star boy would get more fanart and fan fictions but the stupid starblob will sell more merch and appeal more to people who didn't see the movie. Starblob plushie sales will probably make up tenfold for wish bombing. Financially, I have to admit Disney made the right call.
Was the shapeshifter option really that hard tho? They could've had both
I will take Magnificute over that shitty lumalee ripoff
>Starblob plushie sales will probably make up tenfold for wish bombing.
Hard to say,the star is really forgettable.
I think both Asha and the goat will shelfwarmer like crazy
Would be funny if the Magnificute nip merch is the one selling most
Makes me kek everytime I see it unironically a good plush.
Shapeshifter! The Star could be a boy and a star! Plushie sales and doll sales! Also more people would want the Star plushie, if Star was an actual character.
The Blue Fairy appears after Gepetto makes a wish on a star. I wonder if the whole Star being a magical boy concept was based on the same idea.
We could’ve had a cute boy version of the Blue Fairy. Such a missed opportunity from Disney.
I don't like the "evil cat sidekick", but the star boy would have been cool.
I think evil, sexy King&Queen with pet cats would had been great. You can be stylishly evil and love spouse & your pet cats.
Truth.
>movie ends with magnifico and amaya humiliated and dethroned
>they swear revenge but realize that amaya is pregnant
>decide to get their revenge by raising the child into the greatest, most beloved ruler ever, and grant all the child's wishes
>cute reprise of their villain duet where they sing to their future child
kino
>It was okay
No it wasn't, it was really bad
And it wasn't about taking risks or not taking them at all, rather this is the result if executives wrote the movie on entirely on their own. It was a movie build around references
>It was a movie build around references
It really is like if Idea Wiki made a movie
How many references does it have?
Apparently there's a boy named Peter who wants to fly
To be fair, it's an anniversary film, of course there were going to be references to past films
there is a difference between having references, and building a movie around them. For example the magic wand Asha gets is entirely pointless in the plot, it just exist because it existed in another movie. Or the fate of the villain, it's not justified at all, but he had to end up as the magic mirror from snow white somehow. Or that Asha has 7 friends, even though only 2 of them are of any importance at all. And since there were 7, the two important ones didn't get any screentime necessary at all that would be needed to flesh them out.
Still questioning why they didn't give Asha just 3 friends in reference to Mickey Goofy and Donald
Because Mickey, Goofy and Donald aren't Disney Princesses while Snow White is. It's a gigantic reference mostly to other princess films not just Disney in general
that’s bullshit, nobody was saying that until it became known
and the way Wish did it is particularly egregious
There’s a map in Magnifico’s study that has Arendelle on it.
There are around 15 blatant references, and around 15 more subtle ones. (not counting the credits of course)
The references are constant because 8 characters in the main cast are indirect but not subtle references to Snow White and the script won't shut up about it.
Don't forget Pan & Wendy.
Why did they make Peter so fricking buff?
First no twink starboy and now no twink Peter Pan. Disney hates twinks.
Zootopia now exists in the same world as Snow White
It's clear that they didn't think this through.
that's an understatement
Gonna watch Trolls Band Together.
best comment to be honest because imagine a movie being so bad, someone suggests they would rather watch Trolls Band Together instead
>look up Trolls 3 out of curiosity
>find out nsync recorded a new song for it
>mfw
Already has a leg up over Wish's soundtrack
This movie's about the star, right? The one Geppetto wished on?
So where's she in the movie?
It's the blob. It's also the origin story for Fairy Godmother (Asha) and the Magic Mirror (Magnifico)
Is this true or is this a Tarzan is Elsa's brother levels of autism? I'll go for the second.
it's true, blatantly shown in the film
it's awful
BULLSHIT
https://twitter.com/iceman20223/status/1727091569935970556?t=GUxkLOG1Jq7P-dX5KietLg&s=19
Asha is the fairy godmother
Magnifico is Magic Mirror
Peter Pan is shown
and the goat says he's starting a place called Zootopia
doesn't get any worse than that
>and the goat says he's starting a place called Zootopia
What the frick
Disney looked at the Pixar Theory and seriously thought it was brilliant
It's explicitly shown in the film. Asha gets the robe & wand of the fairy godmother, Magnifico gets trapped in the shard, despite the book's curse being broken, all because Asha & his wife refuse to let him out. And they KNOW he isn't cursed. Literally everyone sees how the book's curse gets broken. Him getting trapped is just a final "Frick you!" from the book before it's destroyed. Also, the magic mirror has NEVER been evil, even in snow white. He only ever told the truth. This was literally a case of an intern going, "Wait, isn't he completely right and justified, though?" and the rest of the writer's room scrambling to throw something together to try and make him evil (spoiler, they fail) because the women, despite being the literal cause of all the problems in the film (quite literally staging a coup and also forcing people to be unhappy and depressed by having the memories of their unobtainable wishes returned), have to be right as it's a modern disney movie, and women good men bad.
>Asha gets the robe & wand of the fairy godmother
specifically the robe without sleeves because they couldn't animate sleeves
So Asha is the b***h that didn't help Cinderella for like 17 years of abusive life until she didn't get to go to the prom?
Yeah pretty much
I think the concept of wishing in a Disney world is that the stars will only respond if you're pure hearted AND you've already tried yourself but forces (evil or neutral) keep pushing you back.
So like, Cinderella did try to make her dreams come true with the aid of her mouse friends, but her family screwed her over. Geppetto is implied to be a good member of the community who asks for nothing and lives a simple life, and he kind of tried to make a "son" but all he can make are toys and clocks.
At least, that's what it's supposed to be, but this movie fricks up everything and some dude wants to flap his arms like a bird and fly so he gets his wish granted cause I don't know. Peter Pan's movie proves that was a dangerous fricking wish because he ends up kidnapping children and taking them away to his Pleasure Island, so yeah, maybe Magnifico was right.
>Go to Neverland
>Immediately almost murdered by pirates
>Then almost deliberately drowned by mermaids with no sense of right or wrong
The movie also makes it so that if something good happens to someone, and you know it was a thing they've been wishing for, that you were intentionally passed up because frick you. You run a vegetable stall in town and your neighbor runs the fruit stall, and both of you compete for customers? Well frick you, guess who just got moved to a better location at the market AND got a brand new stall to match? Now you're stuck wondering how you offended the magic black girl and if there's anything you can do to appease your new goddess. Because no matter how hard you try, no matter how much you struggle, some lucky frick gets everything you wanted and more with no effort on their part, simply because magic black girl said so. So why bother working towards anything if you're always last, through no fault of your own?
Reading your post I could only think of this. Weird how two completely unrelated wish based stories came out in the same month.
These people honestly don't believe in free will.
If you have no agency then nothing can be your fault, only The System had agency so everything is The Systems fault.
>so yeah, maybe Magnifico was right.
No maybe's about it, if someone wished for someones elses wish the frick is Magnifco supposed to do grant it?
Later one everyone died because now nobody filters the bad wishes.
or even contradictory wishes because that will spell endless bad blood between neighbors
Yep. Magnifico was not granting bad wishes and keeping the memory of the bad wish from the person who thought of it, as to avoid them having to experience pain, suffering, depression, and trauma like he had to. They live full, happy, rich lives in the kingdom without their bad wishes, but Asha would rather that people be able to remember their impossible wishes because, "What if they want to work towards it even if it's impossible?" even though all of the wishes he kept were explained as being harmful/hurtful/impossible and would only cause pain/suffering if remembered. He wasn't stopping ALL wishes, he was only stopping the bad ones. He did nothing wrong.
Unintentional. They could have made Magnifico a tragic villain, or even a sympathetic one. But instead they dropped the ball and ignored the possibility of that and just forced him in to becoming evil because of a book. And then they forgot that they forced him to be evil and were like, "No he's actually the most evil person ever, that's why he's in the shard now." And hope that the viewer forgot he was cursed, how we (and the entire fricking kingdom) saw how curses were dispelled, saw them get dispelled (including his), and that an evil book of evil would totally never lie to you. Or that Asha could literally wish him back to normal but just chose not to because WOMAN POWER, FRICK YEAH.
The art book even said that Amaya and Magnifico were supposed to be straight up evil from the start, but then they ditched that idea because they "evolved" her character. Meaning they didn't want a woman to be evil in a modern disney film, and needed her to be strong, independent, and correct, so they rewrote her last minute and fricked the plot up. They still made both Asha and Amaya the villains, and anyone who thinks about the plot rather than JUST CONSOOOM with brains off for more than 5 seconds will figure this out themselves. But Disney themselves is too moronic to see what they did.
>that Asha could literally wish him back to normal
Damn, she really could have. What a b***h.
I actually think Amaya is the twist villain on the story, if you pause to think about it for even a moment. She is the one who pushes Asha to Magnifico, she willingly helps stage a coup against him, and she is the one who smirks while sending mirror-Magnifico into the dungeons. She was power hungry, and he wasn't sharing his magic with her, so she decided to take the powers she could get, and become the sole ruler of the country.
>Story is so shit it becomes unintentionally brilliant if you assume this supporting character was actually 4d chessting everyone into their plan without them ever realizing it.
Holy frick this is Disney's Other M.
She's both Scar and Hans. Which would have been brilliant if that was Disney's actual intention with the character.
Don't forget only giving her till midnight
That was just setting a curfew to prevent funny buisness.
Make the Prince come to you.
And don't forget plants can be sentient with magic, sooo...
>Also, the magic mirror has NEVER been evil
Well, it's a pedo, Snow White is like 14
That got debunked, all of the Disney Princesses are over the age of 18 at the very least.
All he said was that she was the fairest in the land. That doesn't make him a pedo. That just means the evil queen hit the wall.
That's plenty old enough to be a war bride in 15th century Germany.
I dunno, stealing a design from Nintendo seems pretty risky.
Maybe that's why they didn't do seven dwarf stars, would have made it too obvious
>Mario movie beat all of Disney's slop
>Nintendo has its own amusement park
>Mario is more popular than Mickey Mouse
How long until Nintendo becomes bigger than Disney?
>It was okay.
No, it wasn't. The 100 years anniversary movie should have been a masterpiece. The story was a mess , you could almost see the rewrites. Magnifico was the only good part and don't make me talk about his loyal wife.
His loyal wife who was ok with keeping her husband trapped in a mirror and placed in a dungeon.
Featuring Luma from the URMRGAY series.
Isn't that just as bad?
The movie to signify 100 years of wonder and magic.
And it's 'meh'.
Sturgeon's Law would postulate 90 of those 100 years were meh.
At least the movie continues the time-honoured tradition of the female lead having a gratuitous barefoot shot. Magnifico doesn't appear impressed though.
That is a Luma.
Real question
How much of the 100 year shit do they push on this fricking turd? Like do we get some Walt quote at the start of the movie? Do we get one before the short plays?
Is there just some attempt of them latching onto any words he said to try and make a meaningful quote? Meet the Robinsons got it right, but I can only IMAGINE them misinterpreting why that worked.
idk but they keep saying Asha's grandfather is "TURNING ONE-HUNDRED YEARS OLD TODAY." over and over and over and over.
Asha is such a c**t.
>"Hey kid, this is why we can't grant all wishes. They can be harmful, bad, or unobtainable, and by making people forget those types of wishes, they live really full and happy lives."
>BUT MUH GRANDPA'S WISH! GRANT IT TONIGHT RIGHT NOW!
>"What the frick, Asha? I literally just told you why I can't."
>DON'T CARE. GRANDPA NEEDS HIS WISH GRANTED AND YOU'RE GOING TO GRANT IT OR YOU'RE AN AWFUL EVIL HUMAN BEING
>"I'm not granting the wish."
>WOOOOOOW LITERALLY SATAN. AT LEAST RETURN IT.
>"Did you not hear the part about unobtainable wishes making people sad? Of course you didn't. The answer is still no. I'm not going to let an old man who is near death due to age live out his remaining days in sadness and despair because he's too old to obtain his wish."
>WOW, FRICKING HITLER OVER HERE. WELL FRICK YOU, I'LL JUST STAGE A COUP THEN AND RUIN YOUR KINGDOM.
>"Please don't."
>AND GUESS WHAT? I'LL MAKE SURE YOU HAVE TO WATCH FOREVER AS EVERY BIT OF JOY AND HAPPINESS YOU BROUGHT TO THIS KINGDOM IS REPLACED WITH DESPAIR AND LOATHING. JUST YOU FRICKING WATCH. SELFISH c**t.
And then she starts singing.
No, no. First she goes home, fights with her family too and then she starts singing. A song with lyrics like:
>"I know I'm NOT wrooooooong!"
Yeeeah. It doesn't help that Magnifico litetally build that whole damn kingdom from ground up, and people chose to come and live there without him forcing them in any way. It'd be one thing if he was just the latest in line of despot rulers, but like... he litetally created that kingdom himself.
Sociopaths writing sociopath as the heroes.
Magnifico had just told her about how selfishness destroyed everything he had and was about to make her his apprentice which means she would've ended up just like she ended in the movie, but well trained.
What does the c**t do? Act greedy the moment she found the one orb she wanted.
Considering the location and vague time period, those thieves would have most likely been Berber Corsairs.
How does this movie have a similar setup to Alma in Encanto and still manage to frick it up!?
HOLY SHIT, it is like if Mirabel started acting like an entitled brat after Alma shared her past!
This makes me appreciate Encanto more, holy shit.Plus, Encanto had better songs.
No one wants to acknowledge all the good Magnifico did. Or the fact that the queen had anti evil magic oil she never used until it was 'too late to save him'. What a clusterfrick.
Should have had him say "Listen c**t. Your grandpa's wish was to inspire people. I know for smooth brained shitheads like you that sounds good enough but we don't even know what he's inspiring to do? What if he inspires people to start attacking each other? Or inspires everyone to join a suicide pact? If your dipshit grandfather was capable of yammering out a couple more words clarifying things, his wish might have been granted years ago but I'm not risking the well being of this kingdom and its people on one man's wish."
>If your dipshit grandfather was capable of yammering out a couple more words clarifying things, his wish might have been granted years ago but I'm not risking the well being of this kingdom and its people on one man's wish."
At the end they try to fix it saying that the grandpa is the composer of "When you wish upon a star". The song that starts with:
>When you wish upon a star
>makes no difference who you are
>Everything your heart desires
>wiLl come to you.
That's the OPPOSITE message the movie was trying to sell, right? Beating Magnifico and torturing him forever was justified because is wrong to have someone grant your wishes for you and you should try to make them come true yourself or whatever.
SO HOW ARE YOU TRYING TO INSPIRE PEOPLE, GRANDPA!?
Grandpappy's wish constantly reminds me of the wish of the main antag in the comic 8 billion genies
>I wish people would believe in me
From a quick glance it looks harmless, but thanks to the fact its so ambiguous and ill worded he could essentially brainwash almost everyone into being his followers.
Gragran's wish could well do the same. Who's to say the old fart wouldnt go full Pied Piper if his badly worded "music that inspires people" wish got done?
Yes, if the wish gave him magical music, he would have ended up as magnifico 2.0.
Having to be really careful with his lyrics and to who he was singing for.
What exactly is an unobtainable wish? Isn't the whole idea of a wish that it'd be to grant you something otherwise unobtainable?
Stupid shit like, "I wish I was king!" or "I wish I was the richest in the whole kingdom!" or "I wish my neighbor would die so I could court his widow!". You can also take grandpa's wish as too broad to grant. "My wish is to be an inspiration!" Okay but in what way? Inspire to do what? To whom? It's stupid shit that gets weeded out, and the person never remembers their wish if it's never granted, and instead live happy and without worry. Like, sure. One COULD become king without it being granted through a wish, but then you'd need a reason to be king, funding, followings, etc. and it's a massive undertaking that really wouldn't go anywhere unless you planned a political upheval. And why would you need one? Same thing with money. You'd need something to sell, be able to manage finance, etc. Or if you really wanted the husband's wife to yourself, you could kill him yourself, or rape her, but either of those are illegal and terrible, and you'd ruin your life for it.
>Stupid shit like, "I wish I was king!" or "I wish I was the richest in the whole kingdom!" or "I wish my neighbor would die so I could court his widow!".
So is it just a scam then, is it like "I wish for a Big Mac and a drink?" and then you just take yourself to McDonalds and spend the 10 bucks for someone else to cook it and they count it as a wish granted?
The point was that the citizens lacked ambition. They refuse to do anything on their own because they're weak willed, and they exchange their wishes for happiness and ignorance. Asha staged a coup to "wake them up and return their freedom of choice to pursue their dreams" even though the king asked them if they wanted happiness or their wishes granted, and they chose for them to be granted (because they only care about their selfish wishes being fulfilled.)
It's not a scam, because say you wished for better crop yields, and you plant the crops and do all the work yourself, but they grow 3x as large this year because your wish was granted. But yeah, most of the wishes were really stupid shit like, "I wish I could fly!" and it turns the guy in to peter fricking pan, even though he was building an airplane for wendy before he got his wish granted.
>The point was that the citizens lacked ambition.
Yeah, but there's stuff that wishes would cover where no amount of ambition or determination would fix, and seems like it'd be impossible outside of a wish.
Stuff like "I wish I wasn't born with birth defects", "I wish this plague wasn't ravaging our community" or even just like "I wish I wasn't so damn short", ect. Like what alternative would you have for a bunch of those kind of scenarios outside of the magic of a wish
You wouldn't. And that's just it, Magnifico was helping these people. He WAS granting those wishes, but only if it would help people avoid pain and suffering and help them live full, happy lives. The other wishes he didn't grant were a threat to that safety, happiness, and security of Rosas.
>i wish my shield could defend against anything in the world
>I wish my spear will pierce all shields
I assume any wish that causes a paradox
This raises the question of why he didn't try writing a song before meeting magnifico.
Fricker had literally 100 years to do something with his fricking life.
And magnifico doesn't look older than 50, so the grandpa had decades to try.
Also, how old is Asha and het father?! The dude had children during his 60s?
That's her grandpa. Her father died when she was twelve.
Yes, but how old are they? 100s years is great-great-grandfather mark.
Asha's 17, Grandpa is very repeatedly said to be 100 on the dot. Someone was pulling an Abraham and having kids really really late.
And the Fricker didn't pick up a lute at any time during that?
Her father doesn't look old, 40s at most.
Grandpa must have been 95 when his son died, and 83 when Asha was born.
So grandpa had a son around his 50s or 60s
So either there was a big age gap between Grandpa and Grandma and Disney can't acknowledge that because that's not kosher anymore or presumably Dad was himself the product of Grandma wishing for a child. Which creates a nasty sort of wishes going wrong thing for Magnifico to be overthrown by a bloodline that only exists because of his magic.
Debunked.
Anon, by splitting the age evenly, we get 41½ years.
It is too old.
Wasn't Encanto weird about that too? Like the triplets were 50 so they didn't start having kid until their 30s.
That's actually a good point. Grandpa would had been someone who moved into the new kingdom Magnifico founded! He either did that with a wife, or more likely, found a much younger wife from the new kingdom, and had a child with her. Grandpa had decades before Rosas even existed to pursue his wish! He was already an old man when he gave his wish to Magnifico!
Ok, I have to continue on this, because it actually kinda blew my mind. So, let's be real generous and say Magnifico is super fit and handsome for his age, and is actually already 60. He looks closer to 50, but for the sake of argument, let's round it up. So, grandpa is at least 40 years older than Magnifico.
Magnifico build the kingdom himself, and was already married to the queen by then. There is no way he could had been younger than 16. That is already ridiculously young, but we are trying to give grandpa every advantage here. Even still, assuming grandpa was amongst the very first who moved to Rosas, he was at the least 56 years old! He had over half a decade of life to try to make that inspiring song, yet he didn't! Either he lacked the skill, lacked the hard work, or lacked the good luck. The wish lottery was already the last ditch effort to chase an impossible dream! Why are we supposed to feel bad for him?!
Same as the writers made the citizens of Rosas bad at math, the were hoping the audiences were too.
They don't quote him. They retcon Cinderella and Snow White instead. And have a bunch of wishes fly past that show various disney character wishes. It's also not so subtle with it's whole, "The wishes represent the old vs. the new, where the old (walt) was selective with the projects he greenlit, but with the new (wokedisney), all projects have a chance if you work hard enough ;)"
>"The wishes represent the old vs. the new, where the old (walt) was selective with the projects he greenlit, but with the new (wokedisney), all projects have a chance if you work hard enough ;)"
That's an interesting take. After watching the film, I had the impression that the story was saying to not rely on the Disney company itself to make your dreams come true, but I guess that would be the equivalent of telling people to not consume Disney product (tm).
>I had the impression that the story was saying to not rely on the Disney company itself to make your dreams come true
That's the conclusion a reasonable person would come to yes.
But the people behind the film believe they are entitles to Disney's resources without any sense of personal accountability.
Which is funny because people will literally sell their IPs to Disney in hopes of them seeing come to life only to have the company sit on the rights and the artist can't develop their project independently anymore. Yet, those artists will continue to work for the company that stole their "soul" or "ability to wish".
It's like they're unwittingly mocking themselves? Or is it intentional?
Lets seize the means of wishing the movie.
Yeah, I remember a while ago someone leaked number of cartoon pilots that nobody had any idea they existed because once people work for Disney the artist ideas is property of the company Is kind of wild to imagine there must be dozen maybe even hundreds projects that will never see the light of day because the people making them work in Disney.
At least with other companies if the project doesn't materialize they can go and shop it in other places or even do them themselves.
>there must be dozen maybe even hundreds projects that will never see the light of day because the people making them work in Disney.
Hm. So maybe the film itself is only secondarily for the general public audience and primarily for Disney employees who need to stay within the Mouse cult to keep it alive and functioning.
Or maybe my tinfoil had is on a bit too tight. I just think it's a, not good, but interesting movie from a completely meta perspective.
This and the Dumbo remake have this meta commentary about Walt Disney the person, they badguy from Dumbo was this rich guy trying to capture child like wonder in his circus and Magnifico is this powerful guy monopolizing magic. In a way both are an aspect of Walt Disney who was consider over controlling on his day. And interesting enough both villains in those movies get a sloppy "become evil" plotpoint that doesn't really work in either movie.
I think is an interesting idea but at the same time kind of dumb because the people working at Disney today are like 2 or 3 generations too young to ever have know the flesh and bones Walts so they aren't really criticizing a man as much as the memory of a man, instead of criticizing the powers that currently run the company and are ruining the it and culture in general.
It's like they're trying to defeat the spirit of Walt Disney. Interesting.
He is far too powerful.
Disney the man but while keeping Disney the company (the true villain) out of scrutiny.
>Magnifico is Walt Disney the a harsh but well meaning ruler who is also the face that gets blamed for everything wrong in the world
>Amaya is Kathleen Kenned a manipulative evil woman taking power though nepotism and by backstabbing the ones who did the actual work.
>Amaya represents the newer generations that think by "taking down the man" have won and made the world better not realizing they just gave the keys to the kingdom to someone worse.
Lets push this idea, it turns this mediocre movie into something brilliant.
>Magnifico is this powerful guy monopolizing magic.
It's fricking funny how much the cat movie anticipated this one and didn't frick up.
Actually, anyone could learn magic. It's just that none of them have the discipline to do so. That's why he was so disappointed in Asha. He was about to make her his apprentice, but she immediately betrayed his trust.
Even the Wonder Woman sequel does the whole wish thing better than Wish.
>someone leaked number of cartoon pilots
Post it.
These people don't think they can do things for themselves. It's a true victim mindset.
I mean that's basically how they ensnared the Muppets and George Lucas.
YOU HEAR THAT HIRSCH/TERRACE? YOU JUST DIDN'T WISH HARD ENOUGH FOR RENEWED SEASONS
So why did Asha become white for Cinderella?
Because her wish was to become white.
No, see, she's not white you're just racist that she's one of those mixed girls that gets lighter with age. She was always black, because this movie says so. Frick modern Disney. "Put a chick in it and make her lame and gay!" keeps holding up to be true.
They say she's based off amazigh women. Yet I know amazigh people and they look nothing like Asha. Girls like Belle and Megara do.
Who knew the star would be a waifu if she becomes the Blue Fairygodmother.
Does the wife know about Magnifico's past? Because that would make her even more of a b***h that she would leave his ass and take control of the Kingdom. I wouldn't be surprised if it's her or her family line that spits out said Wicked Queen from Snow White and said descendant of the old Wish queen, dies.
She does. The movie genuinely feels both soulless and mean-spirited like nothing Disney has ever done.
Yeah, she does. She's shown in the book at the beginning and when Magnifico is freaking out and she tries to calm him, he points at the burnt tapestry and tells her he's trying to stop the same thing from happening again.
>Magnifico sees Asha attempt to take him down with her gang.
>Magnifco simply wish for her to die from a fatal heart attack.
>Magnifco won and Asha's gang become afraid and immedately obeys him again so he won't wish them to dead.
Magnifico wasn't evil. He just wanted the star gone, and he couldn't magic it away normally. If the stupid star that was shitting wishes went away, everything would be fine. The only place to find that information, so he thought, was the evil book full of lies that cursed him.
Even at his worst he doesn't want to hurt people too badly.
I'm still in awe at how badly they fricked up a traditional Disney villain.
>Magnifico at his most evil
>He just shoves Asha instead of blasting her with his magic or worse
MagnifiSOFT
It's a children's movie.
Which is why it should at least have a somewhat coherent moral core.
Which isn't what Disney is known for. They always made semi-family values safe media to sell little girls dolls and more recently little boys action figures. Let your kids watch secret of nimh or ferngully or the like for moral lessons.
I'm amazed how the idiots who defend this trash just because it's Disney, do so by shitting on the same company with zero self-awareness.
Lion King, the Hunchback, Mulan and others were also children's movies that had politics in them but didn't end up as incoherent messes. Your justification is pathetic and you should be ashamed of yourself.
>references the Renaissance era
The only decade they got lucky and threw excess money at the right people.
We have seen these "children".
Meanwhile, at Warner Bros.
ahem
frick disney
This is a onion writer, his reports are not legit.
Still, the sooner Trump comes back the sooner this nightmare ends.
what
The Onion is a parody site, they post fake news.
that's real tho
Thats from a onion type site, it was sourced from The Onion itself but other onion type sites have pick it up.
I'm sorry, please stop posting anti-Japanese lies.
but that's wrong
No, it's right, please stop posting anti-Japanese content from parody sites posting fake news.
You are mistaken thoughever
Thats from a writer from a onion type site, he makes up fake news.
FRICK OFF ZAINICHI KOREAN!!!!
incorrect
More fake news from a parody site's and writer's Twitter account; FRICK OFF!
wrong
STOP POSTING FAKE NEWS FROM A AUTHOR FRON A PARODY/FAKE NEWS SITE YOU STUPID FRICKING ZAINICHI KOREAN!!!!
nuh uh
Sometimes I wonder if these posts are a form of false flag, since they drown out all bashing against Disney
That short actually came out though, we had threads about it.
Yes, I know, but the screencap spam makes anti-disney opinions look unhinged by association.
And it turned out that it was never on Disney+ but rather SNL.
Its literall a fricking homosexual in a trans flag talking about what he takes for his period
Do you morons even bother to look up these vids to see whos full of shit or not?
Thats a SNL Sketch, it was on SNL; Do you even know what SNL is?
We even had threads about it back in the day as it's not the only cartoon segment SNL had.
Then post the nonexistent skit instead of something that has nothing to do with the topic
>Thats a SNL Sketch, it was on SNL; Do you even know what SNL is?
No it fricking isn't.
SNL Sketch.
Passamaquoddy is the name of the town from Pete's Dragon.
Not really relevant but I thought it was interesting.
>He doesn't know where Ursula came from.
The character designer said that is not true at all and is just a weird myth people made up after the fact because howard ashman was gay
why are pedos such lying piece of shits when theres a video playing in the background and several other sites calling them out? What is wrong with you as a human being?
He is posting onion type articles from onion type sites; Whats more is there to say?
But he's not none of the sites he works for are parody or comedy sites and just one hour ago you said he worked for the onion here
again why are you a lying piece of shit
Read
read
Fricking pedos
You're the scum of the earth
He's posting fake news, I will never harm a child.
He doesnt even work for the onion you lying shit
And you
are you moronic you should have just said he was full of shit instead of making me waste time checking
Theres more then one parody/fake news site.
Then why arent you giving the name of the one he worked for and instead said he worked for the onion
I MADE A FRICKING TYPO, GIVE ME A FRICKING BREAK!!!!
>I WAS A LYING PIECE OF SHIT
No, lying fricks deserve to get their tongues cut out
you lied about so many other things i dont trust you
No, you're the lying piece of shit.
Someone is projecting here.
I believe you.
You know? it kind of hit me but this entire movie style is based on Spain back when it was more Persian that European, why the frick is this little star not a genie? I know Disney already has a Genie but it also has like 6 different wish granting fairy characters.
People are trying to deny that Wish made a Disney multiverse and that the easter eggs are just silly references. But according a talk with the Wish team:
https://www.gamesradar.com/wish-disney-multiverse-easter-eggs-interview-exclusive/
Luma if he real
The villain is irredeemable and deserves to get stuck in a mirror for eternity because.. he just IS, OK?
Don't worry, they will have to break the mirror in case of a sequel.
>even entertaining the idea of this getting a sequel
It will have something, even if it bomb more than Hiroshima, they will have to put something to save face.
So they can push him into a pile of horseshit?
Maybe? Or they double down, or they address the elephants in the room.
*record scratcg*
yep, that's me
you're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation
Kek, that's what they should have done. A young prince Magnifico with Kuzco's attitude.
>magic mirror never lies
>Magnifco was telling the truth the entire time
What did they mean by this?
Uh.....JUST IGNORE THAT IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE OKAY?
>Also literally called the slave in the mirror
Wow turning a man into a slave
Asha and his wife are pieces of shit
>Also literally called the slave in the mirror
>Wow turning a man into a slave
So that's why they ended up making him white.
>When the queen was evil her design was a woman of color
>When they turned the queen good they made her white
Getting mixed messages from the designers.
this movie made me cry 100 times
>that first one
oh what a tearjerker, I cried when I found out Magnifico wasn't granting the one suicidal guy his wish to "wipe out all of humanity and make them suffer" oh what a cruel dictator!!!
Now do the nightmare fuel.
i had nightmares for weeks after i saw this movie
Are they human?
people who contribute to TVTropes are extraordinarily autistic
How the FRICK did they get away with this in a kid's movie???
Nightmare Fuel. From a Disney movie. Fricking gays.
PLEASE NO ANYTHING BUT THAT I'M GOING INSANE AAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE
my heart literally exploded from how heartwarming it was
It was really heart warming when Star gave the Eyeglass its wish of being able to BURN everything and the scissors their wish to fricking shank whatever is in front of them.
>Come on guys, let's go murdering!
https://youtube.com/shorts/KHDUBzlZLXE?si=lc1FTV0ptIMbXusi
What do the headscratchers have to say?
Actually poking holes in the plot
This one's a bonus
Yeah, the guy who created a diverse utopia is the sociopath.
>dont grant the wish of a psychopath who probably wants the town to burn or everyone dying horribly
>wow, petty much?
>it's possible that some of those wishes he's rejected include asking for their loved ones to be healed of a terminal illness
And this troper has reason to believe this is true because???
The idiot has a motive to portray maggy here into an actual villain because he sees himself and his political opinions in the queen.
Is it true what they say that this movie is the starting point of a Disney shared universe
Yes.
>Disney 100th movie is the one where they fall into the multiverse/shared universe shit
I can't wait for the mental hoops they'll jump through to link shit like Toy Story and Chicken Little together
>Hercules is canon to all of Disney
>The Greek pantheon is real in Turning Red, Enchantio, and Zootopia
see
TVtropes always make shit up out of nowhere. They're also extremely pozzed and deliberately block all negative reception from being added into the pages to any wokeshit media they like. If they do add them they make up shit instead of the actual truth. Just look at their She-Hulk and The Marvels YMMV pages.
Wonder if it's astroturfed as well. Wouldn't be surprising.
I used to lurk they forums, there are some really unhinged SJWs.
They even deleted the badass gay trope, and banned the gays who complained.
They listed basically the entire soundtrack under Awesome Music
Of course they did. The "good" thing about Dibsey adults is that thy eatch and make the page as soon as possible. The bad thing is that they suck Disney Corporation with the sucktion of a million prostitutes
The whole TV Tropes entry reads like a Disney Wiki trivia section
>Disney Wiki trivia section
Bet it's the same people doing both, man
This your first day on TVTropes? There is near zero quality control there.
I stopped giving a shit after they insisted on referring to Yamato from One Piece as a a man.
Complete disregard for Japanese culture.
Never has been the case, Toei's business licensee will be revoked if the did that because whatever Sanae Takaichi wants Sanae Takaichi gets.
Well then you should tell that to TV Tropes, as well as the One Piece wiki because i'm pretty sure TV Tropes just copy/pasted their words.
Not the case.
TVtropes is basically another source of leftist, feminist propaganda.
What’s going to be nominated at the Oscars now since this isn’t good?
The Super Mario Bros Movie.
Remember, the academy is as racist as frick, Toy Story 4 won over South Korea's Parasite STRICTLY because Toy Story 4 was made by white people.
>the acadamy is racist and won't let asians win
>that's why this asian movie will win
Ehhhhhh???? Nani tbh ka????
Spirited Away won in 2002, that was the only time a Asian film won STRICTLY because the other films that year were Raspberry Award material to the academy.
If better movies made by white people were in the 2002 Oscars Spirited Away would've lost.
Wasn't Parasite a live action film?
Yes, Toy Story 4 was running for best picture alongside Parasite and Toy Story 4 won.
>Among its numerous accolades, Parasite won the leading four Academy Awards at the 92nd Academy Awards: Best Picture, Best Director, Best Original Screenplay, and Best International Feature Film, becoming the first non English-language film to win the Academy Award for Best Picture
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasite_(2019_film)
???
Wikipedia says nothing of the sorts, Spirited Away, a Japanese film won best picture back in 2002 and Toy Story 4 won the 2019 Oscar for best picture.
Anon you're either fibbing or really really confused.
Shopped.
Alright, you're just fibbing.
No, you're the one fibbing.
FRICK OFFZAINICHI KOREAN!!!
The fact that this is a marique Disney release and used to celebrate 100 years of a company, this sounds depressingly meh
>YOU WERE THERE FOR 50 YEARS AND YOU NEVER EVEN TRIED BEFORE EVEN GIVING OVER YOUR WISH
I have to be misunderstanding this there is no way the conflict is this 100 year old man disappointed he didn't win the lottery after buying 1 ticket
It was his daughter, he refused to see his wish again.
We've got anons posting from other universes now.
So explain the wish thing to me, The villain can just make every wish possible no downsides and the main girl gets mad at him for not doing it? feels a little moronic of a plot what happened with ''magic has limits''?
>the world post king’s rule got fricked up to the point where reality broke apart
>the solution to conflicting/paradox wishes is to create two separate worlds for each wish
Frick off Prismo, you lazy shit.
Meanwhile pic related didn't even though on asking a ball of helium help.
I've never seen this movie but what's with the mirror thing? It seems a little fricked up for a movie that is otherwise lighthearted. Especially for a villain I personally see as sympathetic and well-intentioned.
He's a man so he doesn't get redemption.
They made a black lady turn into an old white lady??