The series definitely feels more like a labor of love. Whether you've got a 2000 SciFi budget, or Jackson's LOTR budget, if you truly care about the source it will shine through.
Yeah this. I’m 29 and Lynch’s Dune feels more like “science fiction movie from 1984” than it does Dune to me. The story feels incredibly rushed, and all the gross Lynch stuff that isn’t from the books feels out of place. Also the rain at the end feels silly.
Yes, unironically. Villememe can't make movies, particularly scifi, and the cast is awful. The opposite is true for Lynch and his movie.
Also >unpopular
your opinion >popular
wait until the spotlight moves, lol
>Old unpopular thing le good, and new popular thing le bad.
kek
This but le unironically
Yeah this. I’m 29 and Lynch’s Dune feels more like “science fiction movie from 1984” than it does Dune to me. The story feels incredibly rushed, and all the gross Lynch stuff that isn’t from the books feels out of place. Also the rain at the end feels silly.
fpbp
Okay, you zoomers that enjoy modern movie goyslop . Name 5 movie examples where the old unpopular thing is le bad and and the new popular thing is le good.
My favorite part of the movie is when this kid stands around expressionless!
Why have actors and actresses express emotions when they can just stare blankly into the void?
Dune is filled with that shit though. There all expressionless and you only know how they're truly feeling because you get tons of exposition of their inner thoughts in the books. If you express to much emotion on the characters for the story of Dune then they aren't the same characters
>weirding modules >paul is a literal messiah savior that creates rain arrakis somehow? who fricking knows >paul can tame and control worms like his fricking son leto >harkonnens being portrayed as goofball morons and all the weird, stupid shit that they do >heart plugs >fish guild navigators, though i'll admit this one is cool
yeah so faithful...
Characters remained broadly true to their arcs though. At least Chani ‘84 was an attractive woman and not a scowling potato looking girlboss who don’t need no Kwisatz Haderach.
Its not, he quite literally performed a miracle, thematically it fits the book like most of what Lynch changed. Plus its vague if it really was Paul behind it.
>>paul is a literal messiah savior that creates rain arrakis somehow? who fricking knows
yeah magic future prediction and magic e-girl having memories/personalities of previous 10 000 generations is cool but rain is just too much wtf maaan we hard sci fi here
Why don't they just accept she was a cute white, redhead? >b-but she's muslim!
Do people really miss the point of the book that hard? Nothing they Fremen had was natural, their whole culture was (for the lack of a better word) terraformed by the Bene Gesserite long along. They're not ethically muslim. >but it's sunny, she's supposed to be dark!
Fremen walk in the desert covered from head to toe, plus there are plenty of irl arabs with white skin.
>but she was muslim
it had nothing to do with being muslim.
her father was a literal white dude sent to Dune to do ecological studies and married a fremen woman.
Chani is an anology for russian rape babies in afghanistan.
Which is what we call muslims that we see with red hair.
She's pretty right on. She's a natural red/blonde depending on how much sun she has, she's lanky, kind of elfin. I think they made her skin too fricked up but it's arrakis
It still makes up moronic stuff out of thin air. It's barely any more faithful than the other adaptations. I still like all of them, because I can accept that any adaptation will be different from the books and that's completely fine.
A Dune miniseries with the faithful adaptation of the 2000 version, the production design of the 1984 version and the technical values of the 2020s version would be just about perfect.
>It's ridiculous how the 1984 movie manages to be more faithful
Nah. Lynchoids gobbling turds again and pretending it was faithful.
Villeneuve's version has it issues, but Lynch trash looks like it was AI generated.
Based opinion and my thoughts exactly when watching part 1. I mean they put navigators in it so that alone is a big plus. The tri-opening worms with the red electricity is kino too
>It's ridiculous how the 1984 movie manages to be more faithful and include more things in 2 hours
The original is 5 hours you moron. lmao Fan edit is almost 4 hours
“There was a much longer version that we screened in Mexico City. It was either four and a half, or five hours and fifteen minutes, or something like that. But it wasn’t a final version… It was a workprint picture with all the effects missing. That’s the only long version that existed.”
Outfits also triggered me. Benet Gesserit are supposed to be extremely attractive, regal and also mystifying. While reverend mother's (the next step) were terrifying.
>more faithful >the weirding way is sound guns
Sure I loved them as a kid but you can dispense with any arguments of 'faithfulness' based on that alone. The syfy series was actually the most faithful to the book.
The sound guns are 1000x better than just 'le everyone has really sharp knives and has to run at each other to fight hand to hand spinning and jumping over each other'
But it's horribly paced, the audience had to read trivia off of a pamphlet they got with their theater ticket and Lynch himself denounces it for how awful it is and how it completely altered the trajectory of his career because he never wanted to redo the disaster that was Dune.
I understood it just fine
And Lynch hated production interference
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Anonymous
>"I understood just fine."
One autist 40 years later understands, that's good. The audience clearly didn't, and that's why the movie was a failure because they weren't confident enough in their ability to convey information that they had to hand out pamphlets to people. >And Lynch hated production interference
He was so autistic about it that they had someone else edit his movie, no wonder he washed his hands of it.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Sure. It's jsut one person, lol.
Yeah, the movie has obvious pacing problems in the second half (thanks to studio interference shrinking movie lenght), but being hard to understand is just not a thing, since it literally jumps straight to the plot points.
1 month ago
Anonymous
It shouldn't have to because it's lunacy in and of itself to cover the entirety of Dune in one motion picture. It's an issue with the medium itself and that's why the other two iterations are two movies on one hand and a miniseries on the other.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>It shouldn't have to
Yeah, me and Lynch blame the studio too.
But the movie can be flawed and still be good.
1 month ago
Anonymous
According to you it can, but to everyone else besides you and a handful of autists it's a moronic-looking sci-fi movie made by a man better suited for low-budget arthouse films.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Appeal to authority and argumentum ad populum are considered fallacies for a reason, anon.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Money talks. You can b***h and complain about quality and source material and staying true to bullshit, but at the end of the day the only thing that actually matters is how much a movie makes. The movie's "quality" besides that is incidental, but the money it makes can be a good yardstick.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>the only thing that actually matters is how much a movie makes.
That's your opinion, man
And I never mentioned accuracy to books. Just saying
1 month ago
Anonymous
>That's your opinion, man >I'm stating the obvious because I'm a condescending butthole
Frick you.
And Marilyn Manson removed two of his ribs so he could suck his own dick.
Lynch didn't hate the theater version, he hated the TV version that he was contractually obligated to cobble together. So much that he forced them to remove his name from the credits and the TV version has "Alan Smithee" directing and "Judas Booth" writing.
Frank Herbert himself liked Lynch's Dune.
And even with the pacing issues (which Villeneuve's version also has) and the required supplementary materials and the infodumping, at least it didn't throw away half the worldbuilding and setup and shit on the other half and make everyone in the movie a drooling moron just so it could have muh powerful wimminz and le religion is le bad.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>And Marilyn Manson removed two of his ribs so he could suck his own dick.
Frick yeah, homie. >Frank Herbert himself liked Lynch's Dune
At least one guy enjoyed it, apart from you. I don't respect an author's opinion more than anyone else's like you do. >at least it didn't throw away half the worldbuilding >A movie cutting down a book's fluff? Oh no!
That's what happens normally with movie adaptations because a book can stuff more shit in without looking like a bloated mess.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>I don't respect an author's opinion more than anyone else's like you do.
You only respect opinions who align with yours, like a spoiled child.
And I sa this while agreeing on the author not really being the definitive authority.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>You only respect opinions who align with yours >You only agree with people who agree with you
Are you a fricking moron or something? Is this a revelation to you?
Of course I don't revere Frank Herbert because his holiness somehow is the only one whose opinion on a movie based on his work matters, because that's fricking stupid.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>A movie cutting down a book's fluff? Oh no!
You mean essential setup the entire plot hinges on? >dun need internal consistency or logic when FRICK YEAH CGI WORMS
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Skipping pointless trivia that can only be explained by a narrator telling it directly to the audience in favor of leaving in the actual important shit, leaving the autistic bookgays seething and the normal people completely unaffected
I read the books too, but I genuinely don't give a shit about half of the needless details they cut out in order to make the movie coherent. I've heard people b***h about how they took out the little Irulan tidbits at the beginning of each chapter, and they're stupid for saying so.
>, the audience had to read trivia off of a pamphlet
i understood movie fine being a 10 yo watching all this foreign sci-fi after iron curtain fell
Maybe peope in west are just moronic
1 month ago
Anonymous
That's also why some edits have an opening sequence where they show the actors, the name of their characters and a picture of them.
the fact this movie goes off the rails is what makes it feel more faithful. because thats kind of what reading Dune feels like, ingesting spice and seeing weird visions and shit. a good Dune movie should be weird and over the top
>include more things
This isn't a good thing. Editing out shit is part of adapting, both adaptations do the worst of both worlds to the extreme. 1984 adapted too much crap without any of it making a lick of sense and completely ignored any attempt at characterization or context. Dunc adapted too little, which in its own right failed to give context for the shit it did adapt, meanwhile it altered certain elements that had no sense being altered because they would have functioned fine visually.
David Lynch and Dennis Villenueve are fantastic directors who are quite possibly the most moronic screenwriters in history and should never be allowed to put pen to paper. Say what you want about Ridley Scott, at least that crazy motherfricker knew never to write a script. He takes what he gets and rolls with it. If it works, great, if it doesn't frick it, he's got three more films coming out in the next six months.
I would have made changes to the first movie. Cut out a lot of the slow and meandering shots. This isn't Tarkovsky. Dune at it's core is a political drama, that leans into the esoteric a bit.
Have the first movie introduce Feyd in the arena, have it be more clear on why Kynes is the most important person on Arrakis, have the dinner scene, and more character moments to flesh out people. Part 1 should end on the big attack on Atreides, with every single characters fate being a mystery. People need to realize that Denis adapted like 70% of the book in part 1, and then stretched out the last 11 chapters, into a full three act movie, when it was really the third act.
Not him, and no I'm not joking, but remove the Emperor from the film. Retain his overarching presence, but otherwise expunge his physical appearance. Place more emphasis on The Baron and Feyd as the primary and secondary antagonists. Irulan's appearance left to be determined on if the Spacing Guild has any role in the plot, because she has no real purpose otherwise. >inb4 b-but that's not how the book goes
That's why it's called adapting, dipshit, and Dune by itself is a crappy book. Without Messiah, and to a lesser extent God Emperor, you've got nothing. So elements from the overarching storyline need to be cut, rewritten, altered, shifted, etc... in order to turn 1,200 pages into a compelling five hour film.
Otherwise it's just loosely connected crap on a screen with no ending and CHARACTERS YELLING BECAUSE THEY HAVE EMOTIONS, I AM EMOTIONAL RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I AM YELLING, CAN YOU TELL?
I liked it. It's not like the movie was playing the dangerous political messiah angle. It was a regular messiah story so the ending made sense. And Herbert liked it too. Lynch was too hard on himself.
I agree with that opinion. Dune and space operas are garbage save legends of the galactic heroes. Herbert's best book was the white plague and it scares the shit out of people.
The second half of this movie can only be called soulless, and honestly I hesitate to call it a movie.
I seriously don't understand why this is being treated as a masterpiece here.
>mfw I watched it with no prior knowledge of the book
I mean I knew it was going to be excentric, but between the random space fish and inner monologues of characters at the most inappropriate times, I checked out. Only thing that brought me back was Alia. She had more soul than everything else in the movie.
1500th video essay popping up on YT, saying that Dune Part 2 is the end all, be all of films and that it changed cinema forever, and that it's THE event of this generation.
>What was Dabid thinking?
He may have had something in mind, but it never made it onto the screen.
Honestly, we shouldn't even call this the David Lynch version.
Timothy Chalamet cannot act. He's like Nicholas Cage. Contrary to what Cinemaphile says Zendaya was done in this, she's just ugly. Rebecca Ferguson acted unclear around the others.
I liked the David Lynch Dune more than DUNC. Sure it's rushed. Sure the weirding modules are weird. But other than that, the movie had a ethereal, and sincere feel to it. The presentation was top notch, there was style and soul behind it.
The concept of a personal shield made of prisms was very visually interesting and original. Execution was bad because the technology wasn't there.
Some people value creativity over mere technological advancement in tools.
Rotoscoping can look good, but the Minecraft shields look fricking moronic just as they did back then. Same with that stupid dildo training machine they had Agent Cooper fight against in the movie.
You are complaining about execution, not about the concept. And I was praising the concept, while saying that exectuon doesn't really affect me that much. So you are not really disagreeing with me.
>Stupid rotoscope blocks that make it impossible to see the actors >> An effect that works without inhibiting the audience from seeing the action and the actors
Shit opinion.
The sonic weaponry is moronic and the bene gesserit psyching wavedashing is far cooler since it actually plays into a setting all about melee combat. I'm sorry you're so brainfried that super human abilities in a space opera counts as "power rangers shit".
>Can't refute box office so he instead desperately mocks it in a homosexualy way
Pathetic >yours is a a subjective and emotional opinon.
Exactly like yours, you mean? Are you so fricking moronic that you think you and your opinions matter anymore than anyone else's?
You are the only one getting angry and cinting muh boxoffice as a quality metric.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>boxoffice as a quality metric.
You mean that the instant I bring in an actual metric that makes the '84 Dune look definitively worse by comparison (apart from you citing your own worthless evaluation of a box-office failure) you throw a hissy fit and get all b***hy about my attitude, you overly-opinionated mouth-breather?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Callign others "overly-opinionated mouth-breather" afer a post like this
kek
I mean the metric that never mattered and never will. At best it would prove that the new one is more profitable with the general audience, the it's more blockbuster-y, that it has better marketing and so on.
And things like The Thing or Blade Runner being not very porfitable on their first release support my thesis.
And nobody here is getting irrationally angry or throwing an hissy fit besides you.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Callign others "overly-opinionated mouth-breather" afer a post like this
I can call you a syphilitic moron with terrible opinions on a bad sci-fi movie. That's the beauty of being able to call you whatever I fricking please, b***h. >I mean the metric that never mattered and never will.
It's the only metric that matters because cult followings are based on opinion and reevaluation later on. It's worthless in the sense that it doesn't inherently serve a movie's actual purpose: making money. >And things like The Thing or Blade Runner being not very porfitable on their first release support my thesis.
So two random sci-fi films you pulled out of your ass with a huge cult following somehow proves that Dune is not dogshit? That's a laugh. >And nobody here is getting irrationally angry or throwing an hissy fit besides you
Wouldn't blame them if they would, given how much of a smug homosexual you are.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>You only respect opinions who align with yours >You only agree with people who agree with you
Are you a fricking moron or something? Is this a revelation to you?
Of course I don't revere Frank Herbert because his holiness somehow is the only one whose opinion on a movie based on his work matters, because that's fricking stupid.
>That's your opinion, man >I'm stating the obvious because I'm a condescending butthole
Frick you.
You keep getting angrier and angrier and doing nothing but vimiting a mis of ad hominem and extremely subjective opinions.
You should go offline for a while, and relax
1 month ago
Anonymous
>vimiting a mis of ad hominem and extremely subjective opinions.
Like everyone else on fricking Cinemaphile? You're a thin-skinned little pussy
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Like everyone else on fricking Cinemaphile?
argumentum ad populum >You're a thin-skinned little pussy
You say that to me while acting like this?
Do you need a mirror?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Latin means you're wrong according to me because I'm smart and know Latin and studied Latin in school
homosexual >You say that to me while acting like this?
Pussy >Do you need a mirror?
No, I know how good I look b***h.
According to you it can, but to everyone else besides you and a handful of autists it's a moronic-looking sci-fi movie made by a man better suited for low-budget arthouse films.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Not the same guy, genius.
1 month ago
Anonymous
It’s obvious from the context you don’t. You’re just throwing buzzphrases you’ve heard in a futile attempt to sound clever
1 month ago
Anonymous
Words you don't understand and arguments you don't like =/= invalid opinions an statements
Exactly. I don't know how anyone can look at DUNC's harkonnens and not laugh in awkward silent confusion. They're a complete trash redesign. Bald, pale, hairless who shout a lot is not interesting or scary. Rabban was always a moron but he's extra moronic in DUNC, just yelling the same generic thing over and over and killing his own guys, and failing at everything. Feyd looks fricking dumb and I couldn't take him seriously whatsoever. The Baron is the weakest of any adaptation ever. He doesn't hold a shadow of a candle to Lynch's version who actually comes off as smart, cruel, disgusting, and like he is into all sorts of vile repugnant crap instead of just bathing in oil
I would say that they get them wrong from the book too. >Piter in the book is a mentat so twisted and insane, that Jessica is freaked out by his mere presence, and wonders how the Baron manged to create such a twisted and dangerous monster >Film Piter has no personality what so ever, and just says some exposition >Rabban in the book was a surprisingly smart guy in his one scene. Baron is even taken by surprise with how Rabban asks all the right questions. But Thufir convinces the Baron to throw Rabban under the bus, and that's why he gets fricked over. >Movie Rabban is an actual incompetent idiot and coward, who fricks up all on his own >Book Feyd is an flamboyant playboy gladiator, who always fights dirty, and schemes against the Baron. His weakness however is that he is impatient, and that he doesn't see that Thufir and Baron are both playing him. >Movie Feyd is a weird mesh up of being an honorable warrior, and a psychopathic monster at the same time. His honorable side comes out of nowhere, and his final duel with Paul is rubbish. He almost feels like a Feyd fangirls fanfic version of the character.
Clearly Dunc did thopters better. Especially in the theater with the sound blaring. But look at the pic. All three actors are fricking incredible actors that nail their parts with real presence.
>oh heres your ornithopter btw
So there is one better prop and the rest is worse. Got it
Clearly Dunc did thopters better. Especially in the theater with the sound blaring. But look at the pic. All three actors are fricking incredible actors that nail their parts with real presence.
>Especially in the theater with the sound blaring.
Who cares. The theater experience is just temporary
To simp for vanilla-nova is to expose yourself as an inferior - more chattle than a true human, really. In a just and civilized era, villain-Black person simps would be enslaved and used for the sport of real people. We people are marked by our appreciation of the Lynch adaption of Herbert's work. Compare the 2024 Baron's death to 1984's. One is contrived, generic, and faux-artistic, whereas the Baron's death in 1984 actually IS art. Exquisite, understated, powerful, iconic, and a visual feast worthy of any pre-Raphaelite canvas. To simp for frickernova marks you as what you truly are: inhuman, someone that deserves to be enslaved and used as chattle by an actual person like me
>"I understood just fine."
One autist 40 years later understands, that's good. The audience clearly didn't, and that's why the movie was a failure because they weren't confident enough in their ability to convey information that they had to hand out pamphlets to people. >And Lynch hated production interference
He was so autistic about it that they had someone else edit his movie, no wonder he washed his hands of it.
>Lynch ballsucker can't think of a proper insult when someone makes fun of his favorite movie
homosexual.
I get a lot of enjoyment seeing Villeneuvetards act like empty CGI spaces is a landmark in cinema. Keep going, homosexuals.
Yet somehow this CGi movie you hate so much outperformed and outclasses your favorite flop. Why are you white-knighting a bad half-baked sci-fi movie hated by its own director? Is it actual autism or are you just really desperate to be a contrarian?
>Can't refute box office so he instead desperately mocks it in a homosexualy way
Pathetic >yours is a a subjective and emotional opinon.
Exactly like yours, you mean? Are you so fricking moronic that you think you and your opinions matter anymore than anyone else's?
I love the idea of Lynch's Dune and I love a lot of individual things in it, but actually watching the whole movie is a terrible experience. It fricking sucks, I want to like it so bad but it just doesn't work as a movie. It probably could have been pure kino if we got that extra hour of footage that Lynch intended, which makes me seethe even more when I watch it.
That's why I keep thinking that these guys on here have to be Black personing for being so attached to this movie. I genuinely hope they are, but there's no telling.
I mean, I get that we're just shitting on new dune as a meme, but old dune cant even be saved by LYNCED fanatics.
Weirding modules is nonsense, rain on arrakis would kill the sandworms, the cgi is aged comically, all baron scenes are horribly childish, sting stands out far too much, alia was too young to convincingly act, and most makeup and costumes look terrible. Plus we have weird things like navigators which arent even included in the book. Sure we get a navigator in the 2nd book, but even then, he's described as more or less human with slight modifications like gills n webbed fingers, not a floating fleshlight. Lynced is not exactly a competent director in terms of real stories, he can make psudo arthouse movies but not tell stories.
In terms of sticking to the lore, they're... moderately on point for the first 1/3rd of the book, lets give it an accuracy rating of 75%, but once we enter the last 2/3rds we plummet to 10%, and none of the changes are any good.
Paul literally says he would turn Arrakis into a lush paradise and leave only a thin strip of desert around the Equator as a sandworm preserve in the first fricking book, and then his son actually does later on. It was the goal all along. Do you know why the Fremen were hoarding water?
Puttingaccuracty tothe book aside for a moment... >Weirding modules is nonsense,
nah, it's good > rain on arrakis would kill the sandworms,
see
>rain on arrakis would kill the sandworms
Paul literally says he would turn Arrakis into a lush paradise and leave only a thin strip of desert around the Equator as a sandworm preserve in the first fricking book, and then his son actually does later on. It was the goal all along. Do you know why the Fremen were hoarding water?
And it isn't stated anywhere in the movie >the cgi is aged comically,
Like all cgi ever, therefore it's not a valid complain. Btw few shitty cgi elements will age better than an entire movie spammed with cgi and filters >all baron scenes are horribly childish
He's a schizo. Not a complain >sting stands out far too much,
Not a complain >alia was too young to convincingly act,
She's fine. Not a complain >and most makeup and costumes look terrible.
Those are actually great
I agree. Old unpopular thing le good, and new popular thing le bad.
If I wanted to be contrarian I would have said the tv series is better.
>the tv series is better
It is better, even if it does look like a highschool play
That's not being contrarian, that's being right. It doesn't hurt it actually continues into Children.
>Old unpopular thing
Dune 1984 wasn't really popular
>tv series is better.
it is
The series definitely feels more like a labor of love. Whether you've got a 2000 SciFi budget, or Jackson's LOTR budget, if you truly care about the source it will shine through.
>Dune 1984 wasn't really popular
No shit?
kek
le le good and le bad bad
reddit le may may
This but le unironically
>I agree. Old unpopular thing le good, and new popular thing le bad.
>new good
>old bad
Yeah this. I’m 29 and Lynch’s Dune feels more like “science fiction movie from 1984” than it does Dune to me. The story feels incredibly rushed, and all the gross Lynch stuff that isn’t from the books feels out of place. Also the rain at the end feels silly.
>old stupid book bad
>new and improved movie good
Bravo Dennis.
Yes, unironically. Villememe can't make movies, particularly scifi, and the cast is awful. The opposite is true for Lynch and his movie.
Also
>unpopular
your opinion
>popular
wait until the spotlight moves, lol
>Anon thinks he matters
Why are you so pathetic.
fpbp
>Old unpopular thing le good, and new popular thing le bad.
Okay, you zoomers that enjoy modern movie goyslop . Name 5 movie examples where the old unpopular thing is le bad and and the new popular thing is le good.
Hard mode: list only movie remakes after 2012.
>more faithful
Not really. They both go completely off the rails.
Villeneuve tongues my anus. Garbage director and a disgrace to cinema.
It genuinely feels like a different world, whereas
DUNC feels like walking through an IKEA in
Dubai.
genuinely feels like larpy bohemian grove shit though
My favorite part of the movie is when this kid stands around expressionless!
Why have actors and actresses express emotions when they can just stare blankly into the void?
he looks a bit like lujan here
brb
>Im going to strike a pose and freeze in the middle of this furious battle and open my hemet’s faceplate for, you know, reasons
Bravo Villeneuve
Dune is filled with that shit though. There all expressionless and you only know how they're truly feeling because you get tons of exposition of their inner thoughts in the books. If you express to much emotion on the characters for the story of Dune then they aren't the same characters
Yes.
Spicediver Edit > theatrical cut > tv extended cut
>muh faithfulness
shut up nerd
>weirding modules
>paul is a literal messiah savior that creates rain arrakis somehow? who fricking knows
>paul can tame and control worms like his fricking son leto
>harkonnens being portrayed as goofball morons and all the weird, stupid shit that they do
>heart plugs
>fish guild navigators, though i'll admit this one is cool
yeah so faithful...
Characters remained broadly true to their arcs though. At least Chani ‘84 was an attractive woman and not a scowling potato looking girlboss who don’t need no Kwisatz Haderach.
I'm pretty chani had one line of dialog in the entire film
sure**
>Characters
its a shame dune is not a character driven story and instead a world driven story
fricking moron.
plugs
The moment where Thufir pulls out his own heart plug to kill himself, was kino.
I don't mind most of lynch change but the rain on Arrakis is tantamount to blasphemy
Its not, he quite literally performed a miracle, thematically it fits the book like most of what Lynch changed. Plus its vague if it really was Paul behind it.
>>paul is a literal messiah savior that creates rain arrakis somehow? who fricking knows
yeah magic future prediction and magic e-girl having memories/personalities of previous 10 000 generations is cool but rain is just too much wtf maaan we hard sci fi here
Why was the Weirding Way a sound gun and not 4-D Judo?
because it looks like power rangers bs. sound weapons avoid that embarrassment
>*is the most accurate version in your path*
Checkmate, Hollywood. Cutest Irulan, too.
>still can't get chani right
3 versions. All wrong.
Why don't they just accept she was a cute white, redhead?
>b-but she's muslim!
Do people really miss the point of the book that hard? Nothing they Fremen had was natural, their whole culture was (for the lack of a better word) terraformed by the Bene Gesserite long along. They're not ethically muslim.
>but it's sunny, she's supposed to be dark!
Fremen walk in the desert covered from head to toe, plus there are plenty of irl arabs with white skin.
>but she was muslim
it had nothing to do with being muslim.
her father was a literal white dude sent to Dune to do ecological studies and married a fremen woman.
Chani is an anology for russian rape babies in afghanistan.
Which is what we call muslims that we see with red hair.
She's pretty right on. She's a natural red/blonde depending on how much sun she has, she's lanky, kind of elfin. I think they made her skin too fricked up but it's arrakis
She has a very nice body but very average face. Even with the tons of mke up she looks 8/10 at best.
Stick body with no curves and shit face.
It still makes up moronic stuff out of thin air. It's barely any more faithful than the other adaptations. I still like all of them, because I can accept that any adaptation will be different from the books and that's completely fine.
>It still makes up moronic stuff out of thin air
Like what?
>Cutest Irulan, too.
yep
A Dune miniseries with the faithful adaptation of the 2000 version, the production design of the 1984 version and the technical values of the 2020s version would be just about perfect.
WEIRDO WAY
we had to make time for le stronk independent women who dont believe in prophecies made by wh*t* men
all the adaptations have their merits
>It's ridiculous how the 1984 movie manages to be more faithful
Nah. Lynchoids gobbling turds again and pretending it was faithful.
Villeneuve's version has it issues, but Lynch trash looks like it was AI generated.
>Literally every set in Lynch’s Dune was handmade out of wood
>”looks AI generated”
Eat your tard soup and go back to bed, windowlicker.
DUNC 2 is the best movie i've ever seen
It's not better than Predator
Nothing is better than Predator. Mctiernans a galldarn genius.
It's not even the best Dunc movie, not to mention good
it takes a brave man to admit he's a moron. my condolences and bravo
Based opinion and my thoughts exactly when watching part 1. I mean they put navigators in it so that alone is a big plus. The tri-opening worms with the red electricity is kino too
Duke of the Dune is the ultimate version.
>I sell melange and melange accessories
Dune one is just complete forgettable. Where this movie sticks in your head. Especially The Barren
t. hasn't watched the movie
>It's ridiculous how the 1984 movie manages to be more faithful and include more things in 2 hours
The original is 5 hours you moron. lmao Fan edit is almost 4 hours
DUNC is 6 hours
You are a complete and utter moron.
“There was a much longer version that we screened in Mexico City. It was either four and a half, or five hours and fifteen minutes, or something like that. But it wasn’t a final version… It was a workprint picture with all the effects missing. That’s the only long version that existed.”
it was most likely made by people who respect and like the series
unlike the wokies that make modern slop
Them not shaving the Reverend Mother's head triggered me.
RM Mohaim and the gom jabbar scene are vastly superior in Dune84. Rampling is shit compared to Philips.
Outfits also triggered me. Benet Gesserit are supposed to be extremely attractive, regal and also mystifying. While reverend mother's (the next step) were terrifying.
I love, love Lynch's little smug wicked Alia. That she isn't in the Pennis remake it's yet another proof he's a lifeless and dull flickmaker.
OP like star wars prequels.
I'd say whoever likes DUNC probably does like prequelshit too
Even Westwood Studios beats Villeneuve. It really is sad.
Black puto
Netflix Dune.
It's not really ridiculous Dennis is just extremely shit
How the frick did Shitternoob manage to cut out so much stuff and yet achieve such a shocking long run time?
>more faithful
>the weirding way is sound guns
Sure I loved them as a kid but you can dispense with any arguments of 'faithfulness' based on that alone. The syfy series was actually the most faithful to the book.
The sound guns are 1000x better than just 'le everyone has really sharp knives and has to run at each other to fight hand to hand spinning and jumping over each other'
I thought the question was of faithfulness to the book, not which is cooler?
Lynch's Dune is unironically more faithful to the book even with the moronic sound guns and magical rain.
But it's horribly paced, the audience had to read trivia off of a pamphlet they got with their theater ticket and Lynch himself denounces it for how awful it is and how it completely altered the trajectory of his career because he never wanted to redo the disaster that was Dune.
I understood it just fine
And Lynch hated production interference
>"I understood just fine."
One autist 40 years later understands, that's good. The audience clearly didn't, and that's why the movie was a failure because they weren't confident enough in their ability to convey information that they had to hand out pamphlets to people.
>And Lynch hated production interference
He was so autistic about it that they had someone else edit his movie, no wonder he washed his hands of it.
Sure. It's jsut one person, lol.
Yeah, the movie has obvious pacing problems in the second half (thanks to studio interference shrinking movie lenght), but being hard to understand is just not a thing, since it literally jumps straight to the plot points.
It shouldn't have to because it's lunacy in and of itself to cover the entirety of Dune in one motion picture. It's an issue with the medium itself and that's why the other two iterations are two movies on one hand and a miniseries on the other.
>It shouldn't have to
Yeah, me and Lynch blame the studio too.
But the movie can be flawed and still be good.
According to you it can, but to everyone else besides you and a handful of autists it's a moronic-looking sci-fi movie made by a man better suited for low-budget arthouse films.
Appeal to authority and argumentum ad populum are considered fallacies for a reason, anon.
Money talks. You can b***h and complain about quality and source material and staying true to bullshit, but at the end of the day the only thing that actually matters is how much a movie makes. The movie's "quality" besides that is incidental, but the money it makes can be a good yardstick.
>the only thing that actually matters is how much a movie makes.
That's your opinion, man
And I never mentioned accuracy to books. Just saying
>That's your opinion, man
>I'm stating the obvious because I'm a condescending butthole
Frick you.
And Marilyn Manson removed two of his ribs so he could suck his own dick.
Lynch didn't hate the theater version, he hated the TV version that he was contractually obligated to cobble together. So much that he forced them to remove his name from the credits and the TV version has "Alan Smithee" directing and "Judas Booth" writing.
Frank Herbert himself liked Lynch's Dune.
And even with the pacing issues (which Villeneuve's version also has) and the required supplementary materials and the infodumping, at least it didn't throw away half the worldbuilding and setup and shit on the other half and make everyone in the movie a drooling moron just so it could have muh powerful wimminz and le religion is le bad.
>And Marilyn Manson removed two of his ribs so he could suck his own dick.
Frick yeah, homie.
>Frank Herbert himself liked Lynch's Dune
At least one guy enjoyed it, apart from you. I don't respect an author's opinion more than anyone else's like you do.
>at least it didn't throw away half the worldbuilding
>A movie cutting down a book's fluff? Oh no!
That's what happens normally with movie adaptations because a book can stuff more shit in without looking like a bloated mess.
>I don't respect an author's opinion more than anyone else's like you do.
You only respect opinions who align with yours, like a spoiled child.
And I sa this while agreeing on the author not really being the definitive authority.
>You only respect opinions who align with yours
>You only agree with people who agree with you
Are you a fricking moron or something? Is this a revelation to you?
Of course I don't revere Frank Herbert because his holiness somehow is the only one whose opinion on a movie based on his work matters, because that's fricking stupid.
>A movie cutting down a book's fluff? Oh no!
You mean essential setup the entire plot hinges on?
>dun need internal consistency or logic when FRICK YEAH CGI WORMS
>Skipping pointless trivia that can only be explained by a narrator telling it directly to the audience in favor of leaving in the actual important shit, leaving the autistic bookgays seething and the normal people completely unaffected
I read the books too, but I genuinely don't give a shit about half of the needless details they cut out in order to make the movie coherent. I've heard people b***h about how they took out the little Irulan tidbits at the beginning of each chapter, and they're stupid for saying so.
>, the audience had to read trivia off of a pamphlet
i understood movie fine being a 10 yo watching all this foreign sci-fi after iron curtain fell
Maybe peope in west are just moronic
That's also why some edits have an opening sequence where they show the actors, the name of their characters and a picture of them.
which is why it's a mess
the fact this movie goes off the rails is what makes it feel more faithful. because thats kind of what reading Dune feels like, ingesting spice and seeing weird visions and shit. a good Dune movie should be weird and over the top
my experience of watching dunc be like
Is this real?
Are these Japanese movie posters by illustrator Ryoichi Ikegami? Yes.
Awesome!
Lady Jessica booba
There’s a 560 page book on just making of this movie that noise came out. But, there is a 5 hour cut is this film that Lynch must release
>5 hour cut
all existing footage together is 3 hours max
All RELEASED footage you mean. Or do you think that they only got three hours of filming done?
In that case Penis probably has 12 hours
There’s also ‘The Making of Dune’ by Ed Naha that has lots of interesting anecdotes and stories.
Lynch says here that even the unreleased stuff is "putrified" which probably means it wasn't filmed the way he wanted
>include more things
This isn't a good thing. Editing out shit is part of adapting, both adaptations do the worst of both worlds to the extreme. 1984 adapted too much crap without any of it making a lick of sense and completely ignored any attempt at characterization or context. Dunc adapted too little, which in its own right failed to give context for the shit it did adapt, meanwhile it altered certain elements that had no sense being altered because they would have functioned fine visually.
David Lynch and Dennis Villenueve are fantastic directors who are quite possibly the most moronic screenwriters in history and should never be allowed to put pen to paper. Say what you want about Ridley Scott, at least that crazy motherfricker knew never to write a script. He takes what he gets and rolls with it. If it works, great, if it doesn't frick it, he's got three more films coming out in the next six months.
Who was camera?
>Villenueve
>fantastic director
he just apes better director without any skill
>'ll just film sloooowly because that's how "high brow" movies do
>he just apes better director without any skill
Like everyone else in the industry?
Maybe in current industry
Being angry is not an argument.
>Being angry is not an argument.
I don't have to make an argument for why your opinion is worthless, it's self-evident.
On script writing part of DUNC, I could have done a better job than Denis did.
Oh yeah, how could you have done it different?
I would have made changes to the first movie. Cut out a lot of the slow and meandering shots. This isn't Tarkovsky. Dune at it's core is a political drama, that leans into the esoteric a bit.
Have the first movie introduce Feyd in the arena, have it be more clear on why Kynes is the most important person on Arrakis, have the dinner scene, and more character moments to flesh out people. Part 1 should end on the big attack on Atreides, with every single characters fate being a mystery. People need to realize that Denis adapted like 70% of the book in part 1, and then stretched out the last 11 chapters, into a full three act movie, when it was really the third act.
Not him, and no I'm not joking, but remove the Emperor from the film. Retain his overarching presence, but otherwise expunge his physical appearance. Place more emphasis on The Baron and Feyd as the primary and secondary antagonists. Irulan's appearance left to be determined on if the Spacing Guild has any role in the plot, because she has no real purpose otherwise.
>inb4 b-but that's not how the book goes
That's why it's called adapting, dipshit, and Dune by itself is a crappy book. Without Messiah, and to a lesser extent God Emperor, you've got nothing. So elements from the overarching storyline need to be cut, rewritten, altered, shifted, etc... in order to turn 1,200 pages into a compelling five hour film.
Otherwise it's just loosely connected crap on a screen with no ending and CHARACTERS YELLING BECAUSE THEY HAVE EMOTIONS, I AM EMOTIONAL RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I AM YELLING, CAN YOU TELL?
aw look at that cute little Alia
I hadn't read the original novel and only recently realized how ridiculous the ending of this movie was.
I liked it. It's not like the movie was playing the dangerous political messiah angle. It was a regular messiah story so the ending made sense. And Herbert liked it too. Lynch was too hard on himself.
News flash homosexual. Both suck. Dune is fricking garbage in every single way.
woah, didn't know we had such a tough guy in the room with us
Not everybody can be a limp-wristed pussy b***h, like you. homosexual.
I agree with that opinion. Dune and space operas are garbage save legends of the galactic heroes. Herbert's best book was the white plague and it scares the shit out of people.
The second half of this movie can only be called soulless, and honestly I hesitate to call it a movie.
I seriously don't understand why this is being treated as a masterpiece here.
>mfw I watched it with no prior knowledge of the book
I mean I knew it was going to be excentric, but between the random space fish and inner monologues of characters at the most inappropriate times, I checked out. Only thing that brought me back was Alia. She had more soul than everything else in the movie.
eccentric
I've got a love/hate relationship with voice to text.
1500th video essay popping up on YT, saying that Dune Part 2 is the end all, be all of films and that it changed cinema forever, and that it's THE event of this generation.
Lynch's Chani and Fremen had no personality.
I can say without any hesitation that Javier Bardem and Zendaya are better.
I will never not laugh at the fact that Paul doesn't say one word to Chani before they frick. What was Dabid thinking?
>What was Dabid thinking?
He may have had something in mind, but it never made it onto the screen.
Honestly, we shouldn't even call this the David Lynch version.
> What was Dabid thinking?
>being angry all the time is a personality
You will never have a sandwalking date
Timothy Chalamet cannot act. He's like Nicholas Cage. Contrary to what Cinemaphile says Zendaya was done in this, she's just ugly. Rebecca Ferguson acted unclear around the others.
>Timothy Chalamet cannot act. He's like Nicholas Cage.
I will never be able to unsee this. Chalamet even looks like Nicholas Cage
I liked the David Lynch Dune more than DUNC. Sure it's rushed. Sure the weirding modules are weird. But other than that, the movie had a ethereal, and sincere feel to it. The presentation was top notch, there was style and soul behind it.
It made up an entire bullshit plot about "sonic weaponry". Of all the defenses of Lynch Dune, this one is the most moronic.
Both are bad at being faithful to the source.
It's cool in the movie. Why cooler than power ranger shit.
But yeah, it's a departure from the books
The shields looked fricking moronic though, rotoscoped blocks around the actors was a horrible decision.
Chattle scum.
>Lynch ballsucker can't think of a proper insult when someone makes fun of his favorite movie
homosexual.
The concept of a personal shield made of prisms was very visually interesting and original. Execution was bad because the technology wasn't there.
Some people value creativity over mere technological advancement in tools.
Rotoscoping can look good, but the Minecraft shields look fricking moronic just as they did back then. Same with that stupid dildo training machine they had Agent Cooper fight against in the movie.
You are complaining about execution, not about the concept. And I was praising the concept, while saying that exectuon doesn't really affect me that much. So you are not really disagreeing with me.
no it wasnt, it was dope, the new shields were moronic horseshit
>Stupid rotoscope blocks that make it impossible to see the actors >> An effect that works without inhibiting the audience from seeing the action and the actors
Shit opinion.
no you
The sonic weaponry is moronic and the bene gesserit psyching wavedashing is far cooler since it actually plays into a setting all about melee combat. I'm sorry you're so brainfried that super human abilities in a space opera counts as "power rangers shit".
Sounds extremly subjective and emotional
No dip, homosexual. Did you only just now understand what opinions are?
yes. Do you?
You are the only one getting angry and cinting muh boxoffice as a quality metric.
>boxoffice as a quality metric.
You mean that the instant I bring in an actual metric that makes the '84 Dune look definitively worse by comparison (apart from you citing your own worthless evaluation of a box-office failure) you throw a hissy fit and get all b***hy about my attitude, you overly-opinionated mouth-breather?
>Callign others "overly-opinionated mouth-breather" afer a post like this
kek
I mean the metric that never mattered and never will. At best it would prove that the new one is more profitable with the general audience, the it's more blockbuster-y, that it has better marketing and so on.
And things like The Thing or Blade Runner being not very porfitable on their first release support my thesis.
And nobody here is getting irrationally angry or throwing an hissy fit besides you.
>Callign others "overly-opinionated mouth-breather" afer a post like this
I can call you a syphilitic moron with terrible opinions on a bad sci-fi movie. That's the beauty of being able to call you whatever I fricking please, b***h.
>I mean the metric that never mattered and never will.
It's the only metric that matters because cult followings are based on opinion and reevaluation later on. It's worthless in the sense that it doesn't inherently serve a movie's actual purpose: making money.
>And things like The Thing or Blade Runner being not very porfitable on their first release support my thesis.
So two random sci-fi films you pulled out of your ass with a huge cult following somehow proves that Dune is not dogshit? That's a laugh.
>And nobody here is getting irrationally angry or throwing an hissy fit besides you
Wouldn't blame them if they would, given how much of a smug homosexual you are.
You keep getting angrier and angrier and doing nothing but vimiting a mis of ad hominem and extremely subjective opinions.
You should go offline for a while, and relax
>vimiting a mis of ad hominem and extremely subjective opinions.
Like everyone else on fricking Cinemaphile? You're a thin-skinned little pussy
>Like everyone else on fricking Cinemaphile?
argumentum ad populum
>You're a thin-skinned little pussy
You say that to me while acting like this?
Do you need a mirror?
>Latin means you're wrong according to me because I'm smart and know Latin and studied Latin in school
homosexual
>You say that to me while acting like this?
Pussy
>Do you need a mirror?
No, I know how good I look b***h.
>subjective
Do you actually know what this word means?
Yes, do you?
Not the same guy, genius.
It’s obvious from the context you don’t. You’re just throwing buzzphrases you’ve heard in a futile attempt to sound clever
Words you don't understand and arguments you don't like =/= invalid opinions an statements
the weirding way was in the books wtf are you on about?
harkonnens are way better in Dunc 2 and im a bookgay
No they are not. Rabban, Feyd and in Part 1, Piter, were all turned into complete jokes in the Denis version.
Exactly. I don't know how anyone can look at DUNC's harkonnens and not laugh in awkward silent confusion. They're a complete trash redesign. Bald, pale, hairless who shout a lot is not interesting or scary. Rabban was always a moron but he's extra moronic in DUNC, just yelling the same generic thing over and over and killing his own guys, and failing at everything. Feyd looks fricking dumb and I couldn't take him seriously whatsoever. The Baron is the weakest of any adaptation ever. He doesn't hold a shadow of a candle to Lynch's version who actually comes off as smart, cruel, disgusting, and like he is into all sorts of vile repugnant crap instead of just bathing in oil
I would say that they get them wrong from the book too.
>Piter in the book is a mentat so twisted and insane, that Jessica is freaked out by his mere presence, and wonders how the Baron manged to create such a twisted and dangerous monster
>Film Piter has no personality what so ever, and just says some exposition
>Rabban in the book was a surprisingly smart guy in his one scene. Baron is even taken by surprise with how Rabban asks all the right questions. But Thufir convinces the Baron to throw Rabban under the bus, and that's why he gets fricked over.
>Movie Rabban is an actual incompetent idiot and coward, who fricks up all on his own
>Book Feyd is an flamboyant playboy gladiator, who always fights dirty, and schemes against the Baron. His weakness however is that he is impatient, and that he doesn't see that Thufir and Baron are both playing him.
>Movie Feyd is a weird mesh up of being an honorable warrior, and a psychopathic monster at the same time. His honorable side comes out of nowhere, and his final duel with Paul is rubbish. He almost feels like a Feyd fangirls fanfic version of the character.
They look wrong in all black. Harkonnen need to have red markings (and Atreides blue).
Thanks to this thread, I remembered how terrible the Sardaukar costumes were in Dune 1984.
What is this piece of shit? Nuclear plant workers?
what, you want them to look like this?
Yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landsknecht
It's either lazy, or really dataist.
That's cool tho.
Nuclear fallout aesthetic is rad.
shame that none of that makes it a better or even good movie
oh heres your ornithopter btw
Clearly Dunc did thopters better. Especially in the theater with the sound blaring. But look at the pic. All three actors are fricking incredible actors that nail their parts with real presence.
>actors
>oh heres your ornithopter btw
So there is one better prop and the rest is worse. Got it
>Especially in the theater with the sound blaring.
Who cares. The theater experience is just temporary
Soul
It appears my superiority has led to some controversy.
Best Feyd, dubs proves it
Sting unironically acted Feyd well in the context of the film.
WHO'S THAT IN THE RAFTERS?!?!
IT'S STING!!!!
People are acting like this movie is by David Lynch, when in reality it's a Dino De Laurentiis movie.
If nothing else, people can't use the argument that it's not faithful to the book as a criticism of Lynch's Dune when comparing it to Denis's one.
Dune 1984 is Alien 3 for Dune.
Some of the product design is good, but that's about it.
Well, let's just say Lynch is even more faithful than the book!
If Lynch isn't faithful in any way, it's the book that's wrong!
To simp for vanilla-nova is to expose yourself as an inferior - more chattle than a true human, really. In a just and civilized era, villain-Black person simps would be enslaved and used for the sport of real people. We people are marked by our appreciation of the Lynch adaption of Herbert's work. Compare the 2024 Baron's death to 1984's. One is contrived, generic, and faux-artistic, whereas the Baron's death in 1984 actually IS art. Exquisite, understated, powerful, iconic, and a visual feast worthy of any pre-Raphaelite canvas. To simp for frickernova marks you as what you truly are: inhuman, someone that deserves to be enslaved and used as chattle by an actual person like me
bump
>whereas the Baron's death in 1984 actually IS art. Exquisite, understated, powerful, iconic, and a visual feast worthy of any pre-Raphaelite canvas
????????????
It's all redeemed by the "bring me that floating fat man"
I burst out laughing watching that clip whilst having that lunatic's post in mind.
it's not faithful at all when it condenses dune into a 2 hour movie
I've turned myself into a worm Morty.
David Lynch is the single most overrated director in the history of film.
I get a lot of enjoyment seeing Villeneuvetards act like empty CGI spaces is a landmark in cinema. Keep going, homosexuals.
Yet somehow this CGi movie you hate so much outperformed and outclasses your favorite flop. Why are you white-knighting a bad half-baked sci-fi movie hated by its own director? Is it actual autism or are you just really desperate to be a contrarian?
>outperformed
muh boxoffice
>and outclasses your favorite flop.
yours is a a subjective and emotional opinon.
>Can't refute box office so he instead desperately mocks it in a homosexualy way
Pathetic
>yours is a a subjective and emotional opinon.
Exactly like yours, you mean? Are you so fricking moronic that you think you and your opinions matter anymore than anyone else's?
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Yeah, too bad it sucks balls
If that sucks ball, how bad is the Villememe's one kek?
Why didn't feyd and paul strip down to their underwear in the last fight in DUNC2?
What was this reason for this change? Timmy shy?
Can someone please explain why this spice harvester suddenly exploded before being swallowed by a sandworm?
Because this BOMBED scene symbolizes this whole movie.
Not really. You got older. It happens. David lynch is still late beginner tier
>muh old
Being an epty box doesn't give you better insight
The lore dump in second half filtered me hard, but it's still miles better than Dunc.
I love the idea of Lynch's Dune and I love a lot of individual things in it, but actually watching the whole movie is a terrible experience. It fricking sucks, I want to like it so bad but it just doesn't work as a movie. It probably could have been pure kino if we got that extra hour of footage that Lynch intended, which makes me seethe even more when I watch it.
That's why I keep thinking that these guys on here have to be Black personing for being so attached to this movie. I genuinely hope they are, but there's no telling.
I mean, I get that we're just shitting on new dune as a meme, but old dune cant even be saved by LYNCED fanatics.
Weirding modules is nonsense, rain on arrakis would kill the sandworms, the cgi is aged comically, all baron scenes are horribly childish, sting stands out far too much, alia was too young to convincingly act, and most makeup and costumes look terrible. Plus we have weird things like navigators which arent even included in the book. Sure we get a navigator in the 2nd book, but even then, he's described as more or less human with slight modifications like gills n webbed fingers, not a floating fleshlight. Lynced is not exactly a competent director in terms of real stories, he can make psudo arthouse movies but not tell stories.
In terms of sticking to the lore, they're... moderately on point for the first 1/3rd of the book, lets give it an accuracy rating of 75%, but once we enter the last 2/3rds we plummet to 10%, and none of the changes are any good.
>rain on arrakis would kill the sandworms
Paul literally says he would turn Arrakis into a lush paradise and leave only a thin strip of desert around the Equator as a sandworm preserve in the first fricking book, and then his son actually does later on. It was the goal all along. Do you know why the Fremen were hoarding water?
Puttingaccuracty tothe book aside for a moment...
>Weirding modules is nonsense,
nah, it's good
> rain on arrakis would kill the sandworms,
see
And it isn't stated anywhere in the movie
>the cgi is aged comically,
Like all cgi ever, therefore it's not a valid complain. Btw few shitty cgi elements will age better than an entire movie spammed with cgi and filters
>all baron scenes are horribly childish
He's a schizo. Not a complain
>sting stands out far too much,
Not a complain
>alia was too young to convincingly act,
She's fine. Not a complain
>and most makeup and costumes look terrible.
Those are actually great
It's existence is felt in dunc, you feel Dennis swerving around it so much that you see it's shape drawn in the sand.
>more things in two hours
that's not a good thing.
who are those hooded wizard dudes in the background? they look cool