It's so fricking tiring, you have no idea. I'm not even christian or religious, but this is absolutely moronic.
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It's so fricking tiring, you have no idea. I'm not even christian or religious, but this is absolutely retarded.
some dumbass thought he was doing a warhammer show
Amazon is doing that one later
Seriously what the frick? The BoS worships technology. Unless waving a candle around them gives their power armor a 2+ to their STR they would think it was stupid
Stop lying!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This religious chud probably dropped the bombs at the start of the war.
It was China since they were losing the war. America saw the writing on the wall and decided if they were going down then everyone can get fricked. It's alright Mr House is prepping the space ships and rebuilding humanity better.
Why would you say that? idgi
It was LE ALIENS
Lol that's hilarious. Since there are people here who don't know, it wasn't the aliens. Aliens don't need fricking nuclear codes from some rando to start a war. They could literally just destroy the whole planet with their death ray if they wanted to. It makes a bigger impact than a nuke and it has infinite ammo. That guy on the recording thought he was being interrogated for the nuclear codes because he was fricking paranoid. It's a theme you can find in several places in Fallout 3. In other games too to a much lesser extent. My man probably thought he was drugged as some new form of advanced chinese interrogation tactics, with some kind of drug or something to make him see demons. And maybe he thought the chinese were actually just wearing costumes and the drugs were making them look more real? Or maybe he thought the chinese employed actual demons. Really, that doesn't matter I'm just guessing for fun. The point is that he was paranoid and assumed they were out to get his codes when there was no reason to think that. I mean to believe this theory you would have to think that he knew the alien language, and iirc he he clearly had no clue what they were saying. It was implied that he was assuming. Themes man, themes.
>no reason to think that
Well I mean there is a reason to think people want his codes, but from our more clear pov there is no evidence to suggest the aliens are interested or even know that he has them.
> Since there are people here who don't know, it wasn't the aliens.
I know, but I find it hilarious
also many people in Fallout 4 had early warning and even knew what day it would be on. Even if the aliens got the codes out of the guy which I really doubt he would ever talk, how would anyone know what day the aliens were going to use it? Also they could have just changed the codes as soon as the guy who had them got abducted.
the brotherhood is a cult. how do people not know this?
how can a group of chads with badass armor be a cult?
>i think its cool therefore it cant be bad
you have the reasoning skills of a 7 year old
They kind of worship technology and try to hoard as much powerful pre war tech as possible
This trope is so stupid because outside of the Toddverse everyone has moved on. NV got it right showing them to be a bunch of moronic terrorists. I hope they at least hint at that here but its more likely its played straight and we need to care about “prewar tech” 300 years after the fact.
The Shi would chinkflu the entire bos with a bioweapon if they wanted its just so stupid.
they don't worship anything. They just regulate technology. Is the ATF a cult now?
why is worshipping anything specific to a cult? they have inclusive and exlusive beliefs and are racists
okay so now the Stalinist Russia is a cult
>Is the ATF a cult now?
>don't worship
YOU FRICKING SECONDARY have a nice day YOU FRICKING SHITSTAIN FRICK YOU
I don't remember BoS in FO1 worshipping technology. In 2 there's only one BoS guy and he gives you orders and then gets murked by Horrigan.
They think technology in the hands of primitive wasteland savages is unacceptable. They are quite fanatical about hoarding and controlling advanced technology whenever possible.
aka an ideological secular belief you moronic Black personfrick
I mean, did you forget that the brotherhood basically brainwashes members into certain belief systems regarding technology and other races?
They don't do that. Lyons doesn't even try to teach you their code, and Danse just says "it will become apparent the more time you spend with us."
>they don't worship anything
>The Brotherhood of Steel
You are an idiot, that has never even been near a Fallout game.
What?
Always have been.
>Is the ATF a cult now?
Yes, a branch of Freemansonry to be specific.
All The Fallen?
It's not. Stop just coming on here to lie. Oh wait maybe you didn't know but in this show it's Maxson's brotherhood.
>b-but HAOW can they get that far weest?
By walking or flying. Ask yourself this, new vegAss troon. If you complain about things moving, like deathclaws living in DC over a hundred years after fallout 1, why don't you ever complain about the fire ants(which were invented by a mad scientist during the events of fallout 3) having entire colonies and natural habitats in the mojave desert just a few years later?
>New Vegas shitflinging when New Vegas is one of the only games where the Brotherhood is comparable to it’s FO1 and 2 incarnations compared to the goody goody two shoes from Bethesda
It’s not a Christian cult
>It’s not a Christian cult
The Frontier canonized it and the producers most likely retconned Graham into evangelizing some scribe.
Steel Crusaders incoming, ready yourselves Caesar or Autumn or whoever is the baddie in the show.
stream piggies pay for this slop
sup hogwheels
I don't think Amazon Prime even had streaming when I started
what the frick is this, why are there orthodox priests in 23rd century postapoc America?
why wouldn't there still be religion in 200 years, redditor?
The only religion that is actually canon in the Fallout universe is Scientology. I am not even kidding. They had (an albeit bastardised version) of Scientology in Fallout 2.
That's because Fallout writers are hacks. If there ever was a scenario where religion would skyrocket, it would be in a post-apocalyptic situation, especially since most people are shown to live as dirty peasants unless you're lucky to be in one of the few safe havens
They had a cult around the Master in Fallout 1.
>no cult of mars
>no children of atom
>no mormon
>no father in the cave
For real and the children of atom are like the most metal religion ever. They believe that inside every single atom is an entire universe full of heat and nuclear flames, and full of monsters like ghouls and stingwings and all the mutants you see in the game. And that when the atom was split it brought these things into our world. It's cool but it's also weird that they like atom, since all his things are fricking monsters.
They don't wear robes anymore. In fact it's probably canon that they never did in the first place, because I think all the designs for things in Fallout 4 are actually just retcons and everything always looked like that. I know the bos in 76 wears the same stuff Maxson's guys wear. Also the weapons still look like fallout 4, etc. Either way, it doesn't matter because they don't wear it anymore anyway. Also you're wrong about scribes being lower ranks. Scribes are just a different path, they can get to high ass ranks too.
>live in fortified settlements
I guess the citadel may count as that, but the Prydwen doesn't. And even if the citadel does count as that, you're still wrong because you said settlements plural.
>dedicated to preserving knowledge
no they're really not. The only things they ever do in game is fight evil. They do also take power armor away from civvies who aren't using it for good(but it's only implied in one single offhand piece of dialogue). And lastly they do collect technical documents and technology from abandoned places, but that's more of a hobby that a few of them partake in than a main goal. Not one main mission has to do with preserving knowledge. Any main mission that has you getting technology or schematics for them is to help them fight a war. They actually use that shit, they don't preserve it.
You forgot the Children of the Cathedral, the followers of the master (you know, the final antagonists of the first game).
And the Followers of the Apocalypse are basically a milqtoast Christianity that focuses entirely on charity and doesn't worship Christ, despite using the cross as a symbol.
>The only religion that is actually canon in the Fallout universe is Scientology
Know what's sad, the show is probably trying to out do Graham, there are dozens of video essays with millions of views about how the Burned Man is a religious character done right, and those hollywood writers don't want to lose to video game writers.
Video game writers are hollywood writers anon
Look up the writing staff for Andor
Andor isn’t hollywood. it’s streaming cheap crap
It's literally made by a studio based in the greater Hollywood area of California. How much more Hollywood does it need to be?
Funny thing is that Graham was written by an atheist who hates guns.
For all of Avellone's flaws, he is a great character writer, and that's something most writing teams working for tv and streaming nowdays can't do.
You can't write a charater by commitee, writing teams need to be severely reduced and have a leader with a clear vision.
True but if it’s written honestly rather than with a bitter ideological preference it will just shine through on it’s own regardless, the religion is like that. Nor is it any less effective and convincing for people. Not even a particularly unique situation either, Ben-Hur was written by a generally agnostic guy who was trying to find some outlet after his fights during the Civil War.
Lose? Because the drone hivemind homosexuals will say so despite being wrong every single time without exception? You can't make a worse "character" then that mummy homosexual. You just can't do it man.
Videogame writers are just aspiring Hollywood writers who didn't make it
t. has never played any fallout game after fallout 2
ew, why would you???
It's not even true though, he just watches pooptube. fallout 1 had religions. And fallout 2 mentioned those religions.
Even if you never played anything past FO2 you’d be wrong. 1 had that Dhrama shit in that one community that was some weird mishmash of Buddhism
This is false. Do you know how many fricking churches there are in 4? Just 4? Like thirty of them. And one of the main factions has a base in a historic, real life, christian church. Also Danse calls monsters godless abominations. Maxson calls synths soulless because they weren't born, and says that the institute is attempting to play god. And again, this is JUST 4. There are a hundred different mentions of christianity across all fallout games.
Bethesda's version of the BoS is insane, in Fallout 3 they are the uber nice guys that help everyone a recruit from the wasters, but not the player, you can't join until the end of the main storyline, they don't much care for technology other than Liberty prime, their main mission is killing mutants and then when the Enclave reveal themselves, killing them, all in the name of defending and providing water to wastelanders.
in Fallout 4, they basically recruit everyone, they care about every little piece of tech they can find an they kill every mutant, not to defend the people, but out of dogmatic hatred for abominations.
And that's just the east coast brotherhood, we still haven't seen what Bethesda is ging to do with the west, but in Fallout 4, they mention that the western Brotherhood is worried about members worshipping Arthur Maxson as a god.
>bethesdas bos is insane
First of all they're the ones we're talking about unless op's pic is a flashback scene. Second of all no they're not they are awesome as frick!
>Lyons recruit wastelanders
No he doesn't. He is specifically very against that which is why you can't join until you personally kill all the enclave single handedly then he makes an exception. It is Maxson who allowed taking recruits, which is why people say they were tired of Lyon's foolish ways and are glad maxson is in charge. You need to replay the games.
>they do all this nice shit
How is that insane?
>care about every little piece of tech
That's a major exaggeration. You don't even grab the shit yourself. Danse just says he'll mark the place for sweep and retrieve later. There's no garuntee any of the stuff you saw would still even be there later. And I believe Danse even encourages you to travel light and not to pick up shit, even advanced junk like biometric scanners.
>not to defend the people
That's bullshit! That is exactly why they do it! Danse hates super mutants. Macready hates ferals. These are personal vendettas they have because of family members being hurt by those creatures. Danse's best friend ever was kidnapped and turned into a mindless, giant green cannibalistic monster. The guy lost everything he ever had. He functionally lost his soul because of the super mutants. And the super mutants did this to him because it's in their nature. That is why Danse hates them. But, even Danse is obsessed with helping the people. Man will even get mad at you for little shit like not giving a beggar a nuka cola. Who do you think you're kidding?
>that's just the brotherhood that we're talking about right now
Yes. Stay on topic.
>in fallout 4 they mention some shit about western Black folk
This never happened. And I'm pretty sure those shut-ins are extinct.
>in fallout 4 they mention some shit about western Black folk
it's in the terminal in the prydwen where you can learn about Maxson's history.
I bet it says something completely different.
>Elder Maxson reigns supreme in the Capital Wasteland, and his authority and influence have been spreading across the Eastern Seaboard, thanks in no small part by the mobility afforded by the Prydwen. He has the full support of the Elders back on the West Coast, who have proudly reported that they've begun eradicating cults that have popped up, worshipping Maxson as though he's some kind of god. Maxson himself is almost offended by the idea of being referred to as a deity, as it goes against everything he believes in. Arthur Maxson is happy to be one thing... the perfect human specimen, an example of everything a human being can achieve. Assisted, even enhanced, by advanced technology, but still very much human.
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/The_Prydwen_terminal_entries#Aftermath
Yeah anon I didn't think I had to tell you this but I'm not going to believe what you post is real.
there's the rocket ghouls in new vegas
and the five hundred churches throughout every game, and the christian father who makes you marry his daughter at gunpoint, and the master cultists, and the children of atom, and the all faiths chapel, and the raider giving his friend a religious burial, and Danse and Maxson mentioning god several times, and so on and so forth. MAYBE IF YOU ACTUALLY PLAYED ANY OF THE GAMES INSTEAD OF WATCHING POOPTUBE VIDEO "ESSAYS" YOU WOULD KNOW A SINGLE FRICKING DETAIL ABOUT THE GAMES!!!!
Also john henry eden, the ai enclave president, mentions god.
also the human enclave president in fallout 2 mentions god and says that he is going to heaven after you kill him. in fact iirc several enclave tards in that game mention god.
Also there are several darker religions as well, like lovecraft ones.
>there are churches in america
>patriotic american characters in a 50s aesthetic mention God
Why did you make this post? Are you literally moronic?
Please learn how to read context.
>it's kinda weird how the brotherhood of steel that was never a christian group has an eastern orthodox ritual
>UMM AKSHUALLY THEIR LEADER WHO WAS A PATRIOTIC AMERICAN SOLDIER MENTIONED GOD SO THERE
You are a worthless homosexual pajeet shill. You should commit suicide.
This is definitely not coordinated shilling by streetshitters btw. le true fallout fans can't wait for this loreraping goyslop. you're just a heckin chud!
You read the incorrect context, and all you have to do to read the correct context is click on the things with arrows. Since that is too hard I will help you. Anon lied and said there are no canon religions in fallout except scientology, which in itself isn't even a canon religion in fallout. Then some hivemind drone chimed in and repeated what some literal queer on pooptube told him, that there were religious ghouls in new vegAss, claiming that they were the only religion in the series. Then I btfo those morons by giving a ton of examples of other religions being in the games all throughout the series.
>shill for having played the chad games and btfoing new vegAss shills
No.
>never a christian group
Bullshit, there were clearly christians in the bos. Play the video games you fricking liar.
>being a patriotic american soldier automatically makes you mention god
No it doesn't. Lyons never did iirc, nor most people in the bos at the time.
There are Christians in the WNBA, are they a Christian group?
What is your point?
You’re an actual fricking moron, even the Bethesda games have Christians, to way nothing of the other religious groups you can find, like say, Caesar’s Legion, you know, one of the main fricking factions of Fallout New Vegas.
My homie there is an entire DLC around the moral conflict of two Mormons
>The only religion that is actually canon in the Fallout universe is Scientology.
Oh really?
I must have imagined all those bible quotes in Honest Hearts.
The Children of Atom exists too, there’s tons of religion in Bethesda games.
Where did I say there isn't religion in Bethesda games? I said the BoS isn't religious and they aren't.
THE MASTER HAD THE CHILDREN OF THE CATHEDRAL CULT IN THE FIRST GAME. HE LIVED IN THE FRICKING BASEMENT OF IT, YOU DIP SHIT moron.
The water purifier code is literally 3:16
the literal first thing you see in fallout 3 is revelation 21:6 framed staring you right in the eye while liam neeson quotes it
the goofy outrage over everything on here these days is gonna give me mega ass cancer im sure
I don't know what the shot is from, but it's not moronic since patriotism and religion explode now that meatheads are all on social media. They organize much more efficiently.
Metallic Monks baby! OG brotherhoodbros we are so back!
Oh wait is this a flashback to the old homosexuals? Where is op's image even from?
Oh so it's the same trope as star wars 7 where the nogs is a storm trooper but betrays his faction?
I'm sure this would be an alright show if it wasn't fallout. Unfortunately, it is fallout and thus will be complete shit by fallout standards. Is it really so hard to be faithful to video game franchises in hollywood?
>master chief has never shown his face in all these years
>first halo show has him take off his helmet and show his face
I know it's a moot point now but unironically WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
>Later gets fully naked
>Even later fricks a human member of the covanent while Cortana watches
The writing staff didn't go to Yale Drama School so they could write copy of pulp video game dreck. Instead, this popular IP will be a vehicle to showcase their exceptional writing talents. This scifi trash meant for children will be a stepping stone for future job offers in serious dramas and FINALLY Oscar contention.
>The writing staff didn't go to Yale Drama School so they could write copy of pulp video game dreck. Instead, this popular IP will be a vehicle to showcase their exceptional writing talents. This scifi trash meant for children will be a stepping stone for future job offers in serious dramas and FINALLY Oscar contention.
this is unfortunately how these kids who end up writing video games and 80s franchise reboots think, which is especially funny because they're 22 year old creative writing grads who have nothing to say about life because they've never experienced life
>complete shit by fallout standards
What exactly are fallout standards? These games aren't exactly famous for their tight 3 act narratives
>These games aren't exactly famous for their tight 3 act narratives
yet they still mog the frick out of modern writing
Fallout 1: be bomb shelter man and join space marines to fight mutant hulk army
Fallout 2: be tribal man and fight Republican US government
fallout 3: be bomb shelter man and find dad
Fallout NV: be mailman and join military or Roman military and take over vegas
Fallout has incredibly deep stories
This is a lie.
>fallout 1
You're kind of right about this one but the bos weren't space marines and you don't even have to work with them or fight the hulks. You can just skip everything. Except finding the key in the church because for some reason that little ass door is the one door that cannot be blown open in the game.
>republican
Troll. The Enclave is literally an evil secret society of dems. I know you only said republican to frick with me though.
>bomb shelter man in 3
Actually you're not a man, you're an angsty teenager with daddy issues.
>join millitary new vegACK
You don't do that, you just click on who you want to die and then the game ends and the narrator says that they died off camera.
>fallout 4 missing
>fallout 76 missing
I can forgive 76, but why didn't you say anything for 4? Because it's too complex to fit in your bullshit format?
Just because a story is complex or has different endings doesn't inherently make it a good story
So?
So the main stories in Fallout Games aren't the reason people play Fallout
Okay but I don't see how what you said has anything to do with what you're saying now. Where is the correlation?
So the stories and the standards of fallout have been pretty low for 2 decades. This show isn't going to do any damage to the fallout brand because it's already in the shitter
Stop trolling!!!!!!!!
This trolling isn't even the same topic.
Oh, and you just lied about every game by leaving out everything in each game.
is that the singer from moroon 5?
>Be Hollywood suit
>Negotiate with some game company to make one of their IPs into a TV show
>Read over the plot, think it's moronic nerd shit and will never sell
>Get some of your writers to "modernize it" and "make it more digestible for the suburban mindset"
>Make more and more liberties with the source material
>Soon becomes a pasteurized version of what it once was
>Blame incels when it doesn't get as much traction as you thought it would
What is the plot of Halo?
John Halo kills aliens to rescue Cortana
Is that the plot of the show or the plot of video games?
I didn't play the games or watch the show
Halo the videogame is a space opera like Star Wars, aliens are waging a genocidal war to wipe out humanity and humanity is losing bad. Then humanity discovers an ancient megastructure, the halo rings, that's basically the gateway to heaven according to the alien's religion, except it literally kills everything in the galaxy, which the covenant don't know about. The plot is about humanity trying to survive while also preventing the aliens from activating the rings and killing everyone. It's basic, but very fun.
The show on the otherhand is all about a soldier realising he has FEELINGS and he's being USED by his superiors. He falls in love with a human who defected to the aliens for some reason and I didn't watch the rest of that bullshit.
What you described is a setting. Let me ask a different question.
The soldier, what are his goals, what does he want? Does something motivate him beyond just not wanting to die? What are his values? His strengths and weaknesses?
He's a soldier, his only goal is to do his best to stop humanity getting wiped out. Motivation wise it's stopping the aliens from activating the rings, while also trying to discover more about whoever made them. Masterchief isn't much of a character, he's a faceless action hero, very 802/90s. One of the aliens who discovers his entire religion is false is a much more compelling character in the second game. Regardless, the TV show is dumb.
There were no faceless action heroes in the 80s or 90s. In fact what there was, was the opposite. Guys with so much charisma that they could make you care with just a look or a line reading
This is less cucked than worshipping a israelite on a stick but it's still cucked since it is Amazon
no fair, jihads aren't counted as suicides
Jesus Christ was a israeli
Good thing the second israelite remembered his meme flag
This is one of the only cool things ive seen from the show. The bos are a religious cult and always have been.
They have never once been that way. They're the millitary and they give their lives for freedom and peace, asking for nothing in return, just because it's the right thing to do. The outcasts were a cult sure, but even they weren't religious so I'm really going to have to insist you play the game. Yes, Danse is christian. Yes, Maxson is probably too. Doesn't make them a religous cult, moron.
It’s quite funny that for once the writers actually understand the source material better than the so-called ‘fans’ (who’ve only played F4 and NV). The Brotherhood has always been a pseudo-religious organisation with monastic traditions, based on the knights templar and Canticle for Leibowitz. Their theme in F1 is literally called Metallic Monks, they worship technology and deify Maxson.
>deify Maxson.
They don't deify him, they just hold him in saintly regard. They worship God and view technology as a means of emulating Him, and you wouldn't want your average bumfrick raider playing God, now would you?
I just got the science 2 perk AND the T-60 Tesla power armor bros. My laser rifle went from like 58 damage to 136 after upgrades.
lol is that the green tv screen BOS guy from NV
Todd hates obsidian formerly interplay and will do anything to retcon
He used to, but he's dead now. He has been replaced by something that looks like if a raccoon was wearing a todd howard halloween mask. This new "todd" actually just tries to copy new vegack because pooptube video essays told the drones to like it. How do you think fartfield happened?
>oh let me guess you want walkable cities
of course not. i enjoy my goymobile
>you dont want to have to drive 30 minutes to buy bread? must be israeli
what a bizarre line of thinking
I didn't get that when I went to Canada and to an extent Tokyo. Here in Europe you have a different store around every corner but in Tornto and Tokyo, you had to walk like 20 minutes just to find the nearby store and then, not to mention how hard you had to try to find a liquor store near you in Canada. Tokyo at least had whiskey in their convenient stores but you had to go to a bigger store to get shit like Rum
Walkable cities are fine, but they only work if theres no Black folk or hordes of illegal spics
The lowest ranks of the BoS are called scribes and they wear robes. They live in fortified settlements and are dedicated to preserving knowledge through the current Dark Age. Does this sound at all familiar to you OP?
preserving knowledge isn't a religion. Are z-library and the internet archive cults now?
it’s homaging monks copying books in the early middle ages
>scribes
they are israeli?
The show comes out in a week and I know nothing of the plot. Keyed.
yeah, see i represented your post fairly while you just made up some bullshit no ones ever said
>european style cities is secret "jew" code for the destruction of white people civilization and technology at the hands of swarthy golems
do you actually believe this? do you know where white people come from?
>do you actually believe this? do you know where white people come from?
How do you explain white civilization being European, and every European city not requiring a car?
>Behold, my bastion of white civilization unlike you Eurocucks!
>40% non-white and half the country is majority Mexican
bravo
I'm tired boss
There are more Mexicans in America than there are Muslims in Europe lol, the U.S. is literally browner than Europe.
When did American accept Orthodoxy?
The BoS are going to be the evil agressors that are invading Ukrain... I mean, the NCR.
Modern video game writers are desperate to go into series and movies, Neil Druckmann is the most obvious, but even Kojima is trying to use his video game fame to become a blcokbuster movie director, that's why he is always surrounded by american celebs now.
>evil agressors that are invading Ukrain
rent free
pretty sure the NCR had already been destroyed by the time of this series...somehow
By 2260 they had started recouping their losses and had the biggest group of people. They had a minor civil war but overall were on track to getting back to power but never tried going past the mountains again.
wtf are you on about?
/misc/ fetishism
>enjoy your rapes/stabb- ACK!
>russians drive up the average and even bleed into former soviet states where they're the ones spreading aids and commiting crimes
they really are the gamer words of Europe
You know this shit fake as frick when New Jersey is in the 1-2 category when you have places like Newerk, Camden, and Atlantic City in your state.
Thought that was odd too. Guess the guy who made that graph lives there.
>pro white civilization
>defends mexicans
every time
I bet that BoS will be the villians and the black guy is gonna desert because they're evil White Christians
I'm pretty sure the left will be on their side now because they both dislike artificial intelligence.
Fallout?
The Vault Dweller: "{159}{}{What you would do if there was corruption within the Brotherhood.}"
Vree: "{167}{Vree39}{Do what must be done. Stamp out the heresy and remove those responsible for the stain.}"
Fallout 1 baby! The Codex is their bible and they are warrior monks. They call their best soldiers PALADINS.
SOMEHOW THE ENCLAVE RETURNED
>Enclave gets destroyed in Fallout 2
>Somehow enough people survive to migrate across the whole country and re-establish the Enclave in the East coast
>get destroyed again because by pure coincidence, the Brotherhood also went to the East coast and abandoned their traditions in order to become knights in shining armor
>New Vegas makes it very clear that the only survivors of the Enclave in the west are old people that have to hide their past to survive, at most they have a few bunkers with cashes of weapons and armor, nothing that would allow them to become major players again, and they don't want it anyway, since they moved on and are too old and few to do anything.
remember, they said this series is canon to the games, which means the Enclave is basically invincible, no matter how many times they get destroyed, they always come back.
They made it pretty clear in NV that some members of both the Enclave and BoS travelled East. There was already a new BoS chapter in Tactics anyways.
Still not watching this gay show though.
You can't reestablish something that was never unestablished moron.
Yes. The Enclave is great factio in fallout 3 and should return. They are excellent.
>somehACK
This will never be a meme. Also notice how you never kill any enclave women or children in Fallout 3. Yes, they are still fricking alive. Also just kys.
In case you're aren't aggressively baiting, the Enclave oil rig was their long-term plan for taking control of the West coast. That's where they grew up and lived, safe from radiation (that's why they're immune to lethal variant of the FEV). I think FNV's enclave remnants are troops that were on patrol when the rig blew up. They weren't left without organization, family or a base, so they fended for themselves
What is your point right now?
Total Enclave Death on the oil rig
That's not true. They were still alive in every game since then. And they were clearly not all on the oil rig. I never saw any women there. Also, come on due. It's too small for all of them. And, they're still alive to this day. Like, this is not refutable.
Fallout 3 was an asspull, and NV had like 5 enclave ex-members. Looking at it now, the oil rig had over 1000 souls on board.
No it wasn't. What the frick even makes you say that? Fricking think man! Use your brain and say something.
>new vegACK
Wow, you're really one of them. Kys cause I know you're actually just pretending to be one to frick with me. How the frick would that even be relevant anyway?
What? Of course I'm gonna talk about F2/FNV enclave when the show takes place on the West Coast.
It's fricking irrelevant to the conversation you moron! 2 was like a hundred years ago, they are not still on the oil rig, nothing that happened in 2 is still happening. 3 is where they are now. new vegACK had no fricking enclave, ony one or two ex-enclave tards who got left behind and don't even fricking know about what the enclave has been up to since then. They are no longer associated with the Enclave. You think if the Enclave came back they would let those fools back in? No, they have completely transformed since then. Plus, those ex-members are now muties/deserters/old/out of the loop. Go away trann1e.
What the frick are you talking about right now?
Why are you trying to make sense of a fallout timeline? Bethesda retcons it all by themselves all the time
No they don't. And the "timeline" or whatever makes perfect sense and has never been retconned even once. Literally, not one time ever. Beth does do retcons, but you don't even know WHAT they retconned.
Um akschually, the Enclave exclave were soldiers during F2 (the Vertibird pilot talks about the Heli she crashed during F2)
Whatever, who cares.
i'm guessing we're gonna get the fallout 3 BOS, that go around and help people which is fine, but i think it would have been more interesting to have le evil brotherhood
I don't think the Brotherhood is going to be good, why make an image of an orthodox priest blessing soldiers like there are hundreds of IRL pics like that of russians soldier being blessed if they are the good guys?
This series is fricked, I fell like the story will be about the BoS trying to invade and take over the mc's vault, with her playing the part of Zelensky while the black guy is just Finn from disney wars again.
>preasts blessing soldiers
>muh POCCNR
you are mentally moronic
Okay, very cool, Eastern Europe is Orthodox. Why is it in the US?
I think in the Fallaut universe, fraternity has a religion or an ideology, but they’re a very closed society and we don’t know anything about it. Maybe some kind of mechanicus cult or just a cult of the personalities of the founders of the brotherhood. But there’s no reason to think they’re Christians. It is likely that the Christian communities survived outside the bunkers.
if you honestly though this show was going to be a callback to FO and FO2, and not bethesdaslop you must be really dumb,
If anything I wouldnt be suprised it if actively went out of the way to piss on FO and FO2
They just can't help themselves. I am so tired of the things I like being raped. I'm so fricking sick of Bethesda.
Fallout was raped ages ago, granpa.
True, Fallout 2 shat all over the original.
>in Fallout 3 they are the uber nice guys
You're a moron who never played the game and just parrot surface level arguments like the console-war tier Cinemaphileermin you are.
Even with a Courier siding with NCR for the finale of FONV, NCR is bound to have a civil war by 2300. Everything in FONV was showing it to be a dysfunctional shitshow
(they were borderline bad guys in FO2 too).
Don't listen to this moron. They are good guys in Fallout 3 with zero flaws who do absolutely nothing other than help people. That is their whole entire thing in that game.
>new vegACK trann1e telling others to play the games
You never did. go back to pooptube where your kind belongs. And learn how to play video games, moron troll.
Are you dumb? I think FO3 is the best 3D Fallout and FONV vanilla is the absolute worst broken shit I've ever played in the franchise; and have played every Fallout game besides BoS, 76, and the tabletops.
T>1>S>3>NV>4>2 is my ranking, but they are all solid games worth multiple playthroughs. I get you Cinemaphileermin console-war morons can't concieve of things outside your made up branding nonsense, but stop being a dipshit.
Go away troll.
Just wait for ES6 to really send you on a rampage
Sounds like a problem with Black folk, not with city planning. Maybe you shouldn't live around Black folk.
>NOOOOOOOOO NOT MY SACRED VIDYA SCHLOCK LORE
get a grip
op definitely hasn't played fallout.
Why does mexican ancestry stop at mexico? You arent better, amerilards
christian fascism is a thing in society now so it needs to be destroyed in art
Good analysis
Go away troll. You're not funny, you're not wanted anywhere.
lmao pathetic rip off of the epic HMMMBURRRBUMM scene in Dune
New thing for people who aren't christian to get offended by on someone else's behalf based on something they've imagined just dropped?
People spend all day trying to find stuff to be upset about. Especially in media made for kids. Strange way to live
They didnt play or care about the games. They looked at screenshots and said "wow whos that priest looking guy, he must be a priest". Thats it. Thats the depth of it.
bro I can hear the fricking music. I love this game.
Hey wait a minute this is bullshit! Bos don't have gatling lasers in 3. Do they? Did that one just loot a high level mutant or something before you took the screenshot?
They level up with your character, so they get Gatling lasers at level 30
Guess I forgot.
>They didnt play or care about the games
neither did anyone making these whiny homosexual threads
If there is one thing the fallout lore did right was largely (at least for the most part) ignore the religious aspect of a post apocalyptic word and focus only on the human part,
>"WE WAZ STEEL CRUSADERS N SHEEET"
add another red flag to this show
you forgot the 3.
You fricking LIAR! Everything fallout 3 did was absolute perfect and you KNOW IT! Kys and go away right now!!! Frick you man. Die dude. Leave holy shit.
the human part and the religious part aren’t really separable
Based as frick, maybe I'll give this slop a watch.
I'm Christian and I'm not seeing any evidence that this is some anti-Christian thing; none of the pre-series interviews are making the Brotherhood of Steel out to be bad guys. There's plenty of anti-Christian shit out there but this time you gays are getting upset over literally nothing.
Anyone who thinks a show based on the Bethesda games is going to make the BoS genuinely evil is moronic. At worst they're gonna make them flawed, morally gray idealists/zealots which is what they are anyway. It's much more likely that they actually go the other direction and turn them into chivalrous knights like FO3 did before the DLC.
It's not that it's anti-Christian, it's that it's something that definitely isn't Fallout and never hinted at in Fallout that is the real issue. If anything, Johnathan Nolan is a tard who only played Fallout 3 and Todd Howard dickrides BOS like crazy, so both of these mouth-breathers do some pseudo-Christian symboligy with the faction they consider to be face of the series.
However, pseudo-Christianity just doesn't belong with BOS so it's confusing why they are doing this.
Learn to play the video games moron. Stop just saying all lies in posts for no reason. And kys, please.
>pseudo-Christianity just doesn't belong with BOS
homie their whole aesthetic is basically the Teutonic Knights but steampunk.
Reminder that all robots are probably synths. That was their real goal, to replace all the robots in the commonwealth with their own spy robots. Synths are a distraction. If they're out there replacing humans with exact replica robots, no one would think to check ACTUAL robots if they got replaced. The general goods woman even says this outright without noticing it, when she explains why at night her store is run by a mr. handy. "At least I KNOW he's a machine". Yeah but do you know if he's the SAME machine, idiot? And even if he is, do you know if he's been hacked? We KNOW for a fact that the institute is AT LEAST screwing with robotics programming. It's not coincidence that there are about a thousand robots in fallout 4 that don't act like fallout robots and instead act straight up human, despite that being redundant thematically or something. They didn't just decide to make this the one game where classic robots act like people when they already have this game full of synths. It's because they've been replaced by institute robots. And no, you don't need a synthetic flesh brain to act like human. The older gens do too, especially nick but not just him.
Look at Codsworth. despite you having purchased him legally from general atomics, he has straight up free will and will disobey you and even decide to stop being your butler if you piss him off. If you don't piss him off he will constantly whine and moan about wanting you to consider him family. He's a synth robot. Then there's that assaultron in goodneighbor whose programming is so advanced that she became a feminist and just decided to work for herself. And the mr. gutsys who will let you go if there is a small chance you're a communist, as long as the chance is super low. They're all fake!
Think about it man, with synth people and synth cows and synth crows to spy for them, who would suspect a mr. handy? Even the most paranoid b***h in diamond city doesn't. That's the idea.
Also notice how none of their "spies" actually frick anything up for them, and are never in any position to give them any useful information at all? McDonaugh doesn't frick up diamond city that much when he can do so much worse without even trying. And nothing he can tell them about diamond city politics would ever be useful to them, ever. But then look at Codsworth again, a robot who has clearly been replaced or tampered with. He is right at the start of the game waiting for you, and he travels with you and shit. Because (you) are an institute experiment and they actually want to see what fricking happens. Sure he made you go to concord on your own, but guess what was there? Crows. And then as soon as you get back he wants to start following you everywhere. I think he was directed to make you go to concord on your own just to see if you were strong enough to survive a fight on your own, just for curiosity purposes. Then he was to support you and monitor you. Also, if he was there at concord (you) could have just made him kill everybody. Maybe they wanted to see how a prewar dude would react to having to kill someone right out of the vault? Or maybe they wanted to see prewar army tactics or something as well.
Look at Goodneighbor. They always find out who is a synth and kill them like right away. It's a scripted event even where you come out of a building or return to the city and there's just a dead guy there and the guards are right about him having been a synth. But nobody would ever even suspect Kleo, because they aren't keeping an eye out for Synth robots. In Hanwiener's speech you know what he tells people? To keep an eye out for PEOPLE acting strangely. He never mentions anything else. Not even crows. Human synths are the biggest distraction ever.
The bos has no synth infiltrators and this is confirmed iirc. But they didn't check if the robots on board the prydwen were spies, only the humans. (Danse was only a synth by complete coincidence.)
is that an eastern otrthodox priest?
LMAO what the frick
production crew posted this on the Cinemaphile thread
yeah my dad works for nintendo btw
Jesus fricking Christ.
>throws in a random bullshit line that would never makes sense in any way no matter what
He's just letting you know he's trolling dude. How would it having been a republic make it make less sense?
> BoS captures towns and are killing off NCR for good
wtf this is the opposite of what happened
the opposite of what happened when? the show takes place a decade after fo4. also, why are you taking a random shitpost from Cinemaphile as fact?
So a non-NCR FNV ending is canon.
The brotherhood was utterly decimated in California and NCR control was absolute.
Even with an NCR positive ending in NV, it doesn't fix any problems the NCR has, and arguably makes them worse because they get away with being a shitty dysfunctional state because again a generational hero character bails them out.
Them winning doesn't resolve the economic and social divides in the NCR, it does slightly alleviate the water and food shortages, but again without major social changes to the NCR's culture, it just kicks the can down the road.
It's only a matter of time before the mismanagement of the nation as a whole tears itself apart. At the absolute best scenario a couple of the decently managed settlements can hold on as a city-state and possibly some powerful Brahmin Barons can hold a strong fiefdom and do some deals with eachother, but you'll have a breakdown in many settlements as shittier local Barons get lynched by angry farmers or local gangs rise in power. NV-FEZ or even a Legion ending in FONV is actually better for the NCR in the long run, as that will force the NCR to get it's shit together.
>religious larpers or atheist redditors
I thought those were the same people?
I mean like “anti theists” and r/atheism types that have a mental breakdown if religion is mentioned in the newest netflix slop. Not atheists who are in favour of religion because it’s now counter culture
>have a mental breakdown if religion is mentioned in the newest netflix slop
That's OP.
How can anyone take fallout lore seriously when Bethesda itself doesn't?
no ones asking you to take it seriously
fo2, to this day the one most autists swear by, is one of the goofiest games ive ever played
Bethesda, back when they made fallout 3 4 aand 76, cared about fun. And they would add in new things or retcons things for that purpose. There is no reason not to take fun seriously. What are you, illumination?
I dont think they cared about fun when they made fallout 76.
Well I had fun, but I didn't play it when it first released so idk.
>bro just consume gasoline and pay Saudis for the privilege
moron alert
>Atheist technocrat militant group
>Hurr durr they call themselves knights so they must be catholic right??
These cash in shows are starting to get unreal.
Catholics deserve it and more. They ruined South America, they ruined Southern Europe, and they almost ruined Japan
Oh wow a total unrelated non-sequitur from the resident schizo dumbfrick, who could have foreseen this?
JUST SHOVE IT UP MY FRICKING ASS
Man those power armors look so cheap, like a cosplay outfit.
Russian YouTuber man says only Fallout 1+2 and New Vegas are any good
I could see myself being annoyed by this if everything else about the show looked good and interesting, but the entire show, everything about it looks like soulless slop, so it's really hard to give a shit about this detail.
>Here's your veteran rangers bro
This is so fricking moronic.
The BoS venerate their right to capture technology and decide how it is used. They worship the Maxim bloodline as saviours.
They DO NOT wave fricking incense at technology to awaken the machine spirit or some shit. No BoS member believes their equipment is divine.
Who wrote this fricking horseshit?
>No BoS member believes their equipment is divine.
>Cumbersome? Not in the least. The sacred armor is so finely constructed to such exacting specifications that it feels like an extension of the blessed one's own body. It increases one's strength many times over and helps you resist the effects of radiation so that you may more effectively serve the brotherhood. I would feel diminished without my holy armor.
From Fallout 1.
look man I'm a FNVshitter I don't know what your quoting so I'm going to ignore it
They wouldn't wave incense at it though, right?
>we want the DUNC audience
>the brotherhood of steel is now a cult
Did they forget the Children of Atom?
>1
good but basic
>2
lots of moronic ideas but also lots and lots of great new ones, great characters
>3
its like fallout 1+2 combined, basic and doesnt evolve the franchise meaningfully and is mainly centered around brand appeal like the BoS, but its the most important game in the franchise
>nv
perfect mediation between 1 2 and 3, its approachable while evolving the series franchise
>4
continues the theme of not doing anything meaningful wtih the lore or evolving it. again focuses most on brand appeal which is why 2 games in row have had most of their story centered around the BoS and their story, while telling "A Fallout Original" stories.
>fo76
similar "A Fallout Original" vibe, the BoS are not radically different from how they are portrayed in FO3, where appalachian BoS are ultimately good guys, even if knight Shin tries to insert the arthur maxson-style authoritarianism, they also have a similar origin to the BoS chapter in FO1 which featured a great and perilous journey that shaped them. crucially it also adds context for Roger Maxson which I like.
much like the novel factions fo4 added, the factions in fo76 are similarly just fluff
FO TV show is the first time they are trying to combine "A Fallout Original" template with evolution of the west coast setting, but todd has stipulated that he wants no changes to existing endings BUT this does not mean anything, unless he has decided on what ending for NV is canon, which would have wide ranging implications for his statement.
Assuming Mr House's 1 episode appearance isn't a pre war cameo, he won. Holy fricking shit.
u mean the vault tec guy? thats the ghoul
Mr. House is the RobCo guy, you FRICK.
Robert Edwin House, CEO of Robco Industries.
was there a new trailer? cool i guess.
Why did they hire an Arab to play House? makes zero sense since he is supposed to invoke an old school american capitalist.
Take any of these supposed castings with a grain of salt. On the other hand, maybe his voice is similar. After all, he's just a face on a screen. I doubt anything new vegas will be in the show.
>insane lies
Insanity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It doesn't make any sense! Fallout 3 literally invented fricking fallout! Paly the games, talk to a person, something!
i swear to god none of the morons complaining about this have played anything other than NV and maybe 3
Do you guys think there will be any mention of the Legion? I could see something like a wealthy Brahman baron having a former Centurion as a body guard. I doubt it though.
I guarantee the NCR is going to be mentioned in passing similar to the supposed "government" the commonwealth had until the instate destroyed it.
I haven't seen any Legion leaks yet
They've probably been destroyed as well.
I figured in the event of a legion defeat and caesar dying of his tumor, the Legion would break apart. Lanius isn't very well liked. He wants to dismantle the Frumentarii. I could see Vulpes using the Frumentarii to assassinate Lanius and replace him with Lucius, Caesar's top Pretorian. However, just like the roman empire, this leads to a vicious cycle of generals vying for power now knowing that the title of caesar is not divine or sacred.
I think I just put more thought into it than the show writers.
legion is not like roman republic/empire, ceasar's legion is more like a rogue legion commander running off with a bunch of gallic slaves to run over some barbarians, the very second that commander dies the whole farce ends
The NCR is Rome; Caesar sees it as weak and corrupt and means to return his Legion; which was forged in the taming and conquest of the wild wastelands and installed a strength and disciplined order, back to Rome to restore it to it's fully potential.
This dream is solely and uniquely Caesar's, as is the focus on the NCR, and will be gone when he passes. However there is still order and discipline in the Legion and areas it controls.
I think people underestimate the Legion's domain; this is territory that is larger than the NCR, and it has never had a unified banner after The Great War until Caesar's Legion. Yes, upon his death there will be fracturing, and the entire polity as a whole won't have his order and vision as much, but the Legion to some extent is going to be a big player in the Four Corners states of the former USA for atleast a generation or two after the events of Fallout: New Vegas.
Nothing worse than people frothing at the mouth about Bugfesta and Todd that never fricking played the original game.
Chuckles for you both.
>Caesar sees it as weak and corrupt
ceasar's legion is not rome, the legion are not proud to serve their commander, nor are there proud romans in it helping to drive up unit cohesion and loyalty, they are enslaved peoples who probably do not even get paid beyond what they can steal from the people they enslave, so instead of the political power laying with the legion, it lays with the oligarchy running the legion, ceasar and his deputies.
the whole "the west is decadent" thing is just a meme, also. there's no way they could organize the legion without either giving them the spoils of war of rape and pillage or paying them with lots of money, which they will obviously spend in prostitute houses and taverns just like the historic legions
I didn't say they were Rome, illiterate; the NCR IS ROME AND CAESAR IS CAESAR. The inspiration for his ideals comes from him finding a copy of Caesar's Commentaries and reading them.
>Frontier
That'd be hilarious actually.
then why are you implying ceasar's legion of slaves is going to restore anything back to a "glory", his facion has no prestige like the actual romans led by gaius when he marched to take back rome
I'm only "implying" Caesar's plans, and considering the events of FONV, he was well on his way to do so. The restoration was his idea of imposing order to the NCR and using the Legion to provide security and with the naive hope that the NCR's economic forces would buckle under and right themselves out, to make a combined polity that would be an unstoppable force in the wasteland.
the problem with your plan, and with legion in general is that they have no justification for existing. "le west is decadent we le purify!" is just a way of saying "i'm a raider and i wanna raid u", NCR has a mandate for spreading civilization and relative good living conditions to the wasteland, legion is just going around what is the fallout equivalent of south africa and painting the map
Caesar also respected Tandi and felt the NCR was at it's height becuase he felt she had a strong leadership role to contain the negative aspects of the economic forces in the NCR, but he didn't realise it was because Tandi had popularity, which he didn't have outside of respect of the Legion, which wouldn't have transfered over, but he was fundamentally an idealist and believed the NCR general citizens would come around fromt he security and stability the Legion would bring to them (which it never did or would).
Also note I'm not pro-Legion in any sense, the best factions for FONV and the region as a whole is to keep a strong independent NV-FEZ, that can mediate that part of the frontiers between the two other polities.
>they have no justification for existing
How so? And then how the frick does the NCR have reason to exist? They are a composite ordered conquest entity of many wasteland tribes and raider groups come together under the leadership of Caesar, who wants to use them to bring order to a polity he respects but feels is broken.
Maybe you should stop being a stupid my-team/your-team dipshit and think about things from an outside perspective for half a second.
>"le west is decadent we le purify!" is just a way of saying "i'm a raider and i wanna raid u"
I love how projective asshats always have to ironically add in "le".
>NCR has a mandate for spreading civilization and relative good living conditions to the wasteland
LOL LMAO EVEN
The NCR are just as much raiders as the Legion (talk with half of the Rangers and NCRA troopers in NV), and even worse back in FO2 when the majority of pro-NCR quests are straight up subterfuge and backstabbing of independent factions to bring them into the NCR fold.
>How so? And then how the frick does the NCR have reason to exist?
the entire "legion is unfinished" statement exists because the legion is nothing but a counter point to NCR. "le decadent is you" exists because NCR servicemen are drunk and frick prostitutes in the promotional material so it's an immediately recognizable trait for both the NCR and Legion and shows their dichotomy, this creates the dilemma for legion's existence since you are fricking joking if you think you can govern a bunch of wasteland savages by giving them nothing but the faith in their glorious leader who will take away your recreational drugs, your culture in general, your ability to enjoy some free pussy from conquered lands from the locals against their will. the entire fricking raison d'etre is centered around this handwavy bullshit.
>The NCR are just as much raiders as the Legion
where do you see NCR slaves, and where do you see legion offering food shelters to the displaced? no they just enslave them to let the problem work itself out. NCR is obviously "omg le corrupt!! so bad!!" but they also have good actors such as corporal whogivesafrick running the shelter, among the occasional self centered, bad actors. where are the examples of legion's good actors, among their cartoon villain mousatche twirling lebensraum grabbing "le decadent" "polity"
The fiends are apparently in.
> scene with Driver Nephi
The more I learn about this show, the more optimistic I am about it. I'm sure it's not gonna be some masterpiece and it's gonna have plenty of bad writing but it's probably gonna be fun.
Nobody b***hed and moaned about Mad Max Fury Road associating Valhalla with a bunch of "smegma crazy gay boys"
Two reasons for that
>Nobody knows anyone who is actually a norse pagan
>People who do know norse pagans agree that they're smegma crazy gay boys
I think it’s one of those things atheist writers intend to look anti religion but it just ends up being cool
Now that you mention it, Cinemaphile is a bunch of pro-religion atheists trying and failing to make Christianity cool
if they’re failing why are you getting so defensive about it?
I don’t think christianity needs to be made cool, it’s just that atheism/ modern culture in general is so desperately uncool that people backpedal and look for something else.
is this religious larpers getting mad or atheist redditors getting mad?
Fricking lmao, he did it. Todd actually went full on "muh holy paladins" route. Dude's obsession with BoS has gotten unhealthy.
That's from Fallout 1, moron
Suuuuure.
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/DARREL.MSG
Where are their crosses and statues of Jesus? How can they be said to be catholic knights without those things? I mean just look at their symbol, it has nothing to do with Christ, it’s obviously only stylistically similar and then only because their ascetic is based off of the monks in a canticle for Leibowitz.
see
that's got nothing to do with the thing you're responding to
how come?
Why dont shows & movies get leaked
It ain't Todd Howard that's obsessed with Catholic bullshit, it's Emil Pagliarulo
I want to see some Nuka Cola world of refreshment content. Always get the urge for softdrinks when I play that dlc
does reddit not realise these homies are based on a canticle for leibowitz?
>They are loosely inspired by a thing therefore that is what they are
Okay moron
it’s less than loosely. they’re basically monks in the dark ages cloistered preserving philosophy and shit but with tech. the religious connotation is obvious
Except the BoS vary in their own ways that make them unique and one of those variations is that they aren't religious.
Yeah the guys shaving their heads and calling eachother brother and dressing up in robes, living in fraternities etc aren’t religious, sure. I guess it comes down to one of those what do you define as religious things, but literally living and being organised in the exact same way benedictines or tibetan monks are seems to be a clue
i’ve heard people say state atheists in the soviet union and china mass executing religious people were actually religious. what even is a religion
>They have vague religious aesthetics therefore they must be religious
Your thought process is the exact same as these moronic writers. The whole point of the BoS is that they are supposed to represent an absurd contradiction. They call themselves paladins but their actual prerogatives are that of technocratic scientists.
I don’t mean aesthetics. I mean their group is literally organised and demands a way of life that cloistered monks have. I’ve never heard or seen a secular organisation that operates in such a way. You can take away the aesthetic element and just focus on how they live, talk and organise their group. It’s 1:1 with what you’d see in a monastery
>t’s 1:1 with what you’d see in a monastery
Yes except they aren't religious.
>But I've never heard or seen an organization like that!!
Congratulations on figuring out how fictional writing works.
what distinguishes you from a religion if you behave exactly like a religious cult
The distinguishing factor would be if there are religious aspects at play. If there isn't any actual religion involved then it would be a non-religious cult of which there are plenty.
that’s what I mean… what is a religious aspect? because I count living the same way a monk does as a religious thing
They aren't actually living like a monk though. They don't pray to a god, they don't worship anything. If they aren't doing that then they aren't living like monks.
their entire society is literally based on monks irl, so if that isn’t monkish behaviour then how do you describe it? again living in a hierarchical fraternity with elders, novices, who all dress the same, have the same haircut, refer to eachother as brother. all of that is inherently religious because the only thing that inspired the writers on this was the way religious people in real life behave.
All of those things are purely aesthetic. They don't end up having any effect on the beliefs and motives of the BoS who are in effect atheistic technocrats. Plus everything you listed here is also in common with armies which the BoS actually descend from.
it's aesthetic in the same way hitler's nationalism was just an aesthetic for him to wrench his way up to the position of chancellor and take over half of europe
Mendel was a scientist and a monk
teh BoS hierarchy is entirely electoral-meritocratic, some elders get elected against thier wishes
yes that is state propaganda to justify political goals. BoS is ruled by a council of elders wtih an obvious religious zeal spread across the command structure, but you can also observe the same zeal in initiates. their entire society is entirely brain washed, and in my headcanon reasoning it's to safeguard their mission so that any sort of ideological sway is easily stamped out, so in essence they have synthesized a form of religious fascism to enact their rule and doctrine.
see
>can't seperate propaganda statements from obvious religious dogmatism
I guess your next step is to claim Darrel was psyoping you, do the /misc/chud thing!
I can’t do that because you don’t explain what the distinction is. If mao, for example, who was an atheist, makes the state atheist, and says all his cabinet has to be atheist, and then kills people who aren’t atheist, what do I call that? “Religion” just becomes a word meaning anything bad I don’t like when you apply it to that.
>pious power armoured crusader wasteland paladins
I thought you chuds loved that shit
is this the latest thing im gonna see people pretend to be outraged by knowing full well 10 years ago this would've been based