German here
No, the 3-finger gesture is not a thing, at least it's not something we ever would've noticed or cared about.
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he had fricked up over and over throughout the scene from inexperience and overconfidence, pretending this was the only reason he gave himself away is asinine
This too. His accent in German is *atrocious* (obviously on purpose since Fassbender is a native speaker), there's simply no way any German native speaker would believe that accent is real.
Perhaps, but the SS officer is established as an expert on accents in that scene, as he calls out the Frankfurt and Viennese accents from the other spies, which indicates that his character can pick out any German speaker with pinpoint accuracy.
What I think is that the SS agent let it slip because number one he was in the company of that German actress so he didn't expect her to be a traitor.Number two he wanted to be close to her. That's why he quickly came to their table and suggested playing that guessing game with them.
>German here >No, the 3-finger gesture is not a thing, at least it's not something we ever would've noticed or cared about.
You are speaking from a position of 80 years of being influenced by American culture and media. It's no wonder you have lost such simple yet distinct cultural features.
You know interacting with one's grandparents isn't a theoretical fantasy scenario, but a very real and mundane thing?
People use whatever gesture comes naturally to them, be with 3 fingers or 2 fingers and a thumb.
Also Germany is so decentralized and federalized that I doubt there was ever any unified German way of doing anything, certainly not one for hand gestures.
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he had fricked up over and over throughout the scene from inexperience and overconfidence, pretending this was the only reason he gave himself away is asinine
The german was already suspicious and literally no one in germany now or then would use those digits to signify the number 3.
When he called him out on it the brit immediately gave up the charade.
1, he doesn't say he was Swiss, he says he comes from a village near a mountain in the Alps, and 2, you assume they don't know what Swiss accents sound like because....?
>Swiss are not Germans
Citation needed. Pretty sure they are as German as Austria. If they aren't German, why didn't Hitler invade them? Man wanted to conquer all of Europe to the point of shelling Britain, but just leaves this tiny country in the middle of his realm untouched, just because?
>just because?
Just because that's where all his money was stashed and Switzerland is the most powerful country in the world, you insolent Black person.
He said he was Swiss. How did every fricking moron skip this, of course he wasn't German in his own lie.
>Like the young, newly christened father, I too have an acute ear for accents. And like him, I too find yours odd. From where do you hail, Captain? >I was born in the village that rests in the shadow of Pitz Palu. >The mountain? >Yes. In that village we all speak like this. Have you seen the Riefenstahl film?
The film being The White Hell of Pitz Palu. "I'm from a tiny village where we have weird accents like this one that sounds like I learned German from a book" is a pretty bad excuse. The Gestapo is suspicious from the start, it's his job to be, he says at the final standoff he's had a gun readied since he sat down. The finger cue was merely the final straw.
It would have been less suspicious for him to say his mom was English or something
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Anonymous
He makes nonstop mistakes in the scene, he's in way over his head. People expect him to be James Bond or something for some reason.
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Anonymous
I'm pretty sure the scene is intended as something of a subversion or send-up of the spy genre, in that his throwing his weight around only makes things worse and digs himself deeper, and eventually winds up with everyone in the room bar one dead.
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That they're all far less competent and in control than they assume is the theme of the film, Hitler only winds up dead because of about three different plans in varying stages of collapse collide violently and wind up with everyone in the theater dead, including Hitler, the target.
Like Landa just laughs out loud at how fricking moronic their story to explain why there's some Italians who can't pronounce their own names and why the actress suddenly has a broken foot is. At every turn they manage to both overthink and underthink their excuses (broke her foot mountain climbing....in Paris. Why not just say you slipped on the stairs or getting out of a car? Likewise "I speak a little I-talian" turns out to be "Hello").
Even Landa is less in control than either he thinks, or he would like to let others think, he's more rolling with the punches than planning everything out
2 months ago
Anonymous
Indeed, it's a dominos thing. The drunk soldier that blabbers at their table is a nuisance but the actress was also already handling it gently, he suddenly butts in with asserting authority which only serves to draw attention to his accent and attract the suspicion of the gestapo.
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I'm pretty sure the scene is intended as something of a subversion or send-up of the spy genre, in that his throwing his weight around only makes things worse and digs himself deeper, and eventually winds up with everyone in the room bar one dead.
Yeah I thought about that too especially because of his soft demeanor and what he said about the whiskey.
>. Swiss are not Germans
21st century Americans understanding of German lmao
Swiss Germans were considered Germans who just happened to live in another political entity. However, the Swiss speak an Alemmanic dialect which is also spoken in the southwest of Germany.
-He said he was swiss
-swiss person does something that non-germans do(IE SWISS)
-German somehow gets suspicious.
If he said he was German, then it would make sense. Swiss are not Germans, so it's normal for them to do things that Germans don't.
You are brown.
You are clearly an autistic sperg if you get hung up on details such as this instead of being able to think on a conceptual level.
So to continue to reply to you would literally mean getting into an argument with a moron.
Don't @ me, I'm done.
Swiss accents are very recognizable and "iconic" (notoriously awful, for Hochdeutsch speakers), his accent wasn't anything close to Swiss, hence the SS officer not buying the obvious bullshit.
The german was already suspicious and literally no one in germany now or then would use those digits to signify the number 3.
When he called him out on it the brit immediately gave up the charade.
Do the 3 finger thing in Germany today and literally nobody will even notice it, that's a Tarantino plot device and not a real shibboleth
If they went by accent then that would be the end of it. But the finger thing was dumb since he wasn't pretending to even be German in the first place but swiss.
-He said he was swiss
-swiss person does something that non-germans do(IE SWISS)
-German somehow gets suspicious.
If he said he was German, then it would make sense. Swiss are not Germans, so it's normal for them to do things that Germans don't.
You are brown.
If they went by accent then that would be the end of it. But the finger thing was dumb since he wasn't pretending to even be German in the first place but swiss.
It didn't make sense, he was swiss (or claiming to be)
No ever brings up the fact that he said he was swiss in these threads. Everyone has their phone out during these movies and has no idea what's happening
I don't think this is as strong an argument as you seem to think it is.
>blabbers constantly to needlessly assert authority which only serves to call attention to his weird accent and attract the suspicion of the Gestapo, even though the actress had it under control >gives a shitty vague excuse when it's called out >uses wrong cultural signals
He should have been speaking as little as possible to avoid drawing attention to himself, instead he was trying too hard to dominate the situation and only dug himself deeper.
Furthermore, it was a German police agent (SS) who discovered his identity, basically the intention of the Third Reich; That's why he was so obsessed with the accent.
Yo Heinz it's T Dawg. What do German people do that English people don't that if they did it pretending to be German would get them found out? Also I need you to translate some of this script into German. Peace.
I'm sure op feels more comfortable with a script written by the Nolans in which they have to explain to him what is happening every second of the movie.
Or in a movie made by a guy that wants to see it happen. People don't seem to understand what Tarantino means by he makes movies for himself. They can't comprehend that he writes movies because he wants to see it play out. He's so obsessed with movies he started making his own to watch. It makes people so upset and I can't help but find it hilarious.
German is a highly regional language, they have a crap ton of accents, not just in Germany but in Austria and Switzerland too, so meeting someone who has effectively no discernibly real accent is weird. Particularly during a war and you're a Gestapo, you hear a guy who does not sound like a native speaker of German at all but is wearing a captain's uniform.
My wife is German. I tested this. It's not an asspull, I asked her family when we were visiting Germany a few years ago to show me 3 fingers and they did all used a thumb.
No ever brings up the fact that he said he was swiss in these threads. Everyone has their phone out during these movies and has no idea what's happening
I saw the same shit in an episode of detective conan, is this really a thing?
German here
No, the 3-finger gesture is not a thing, at least it's not something we ever would've noticed or cared about.
This too. His accent in German is *atrocious* (obviously on purpose since Fassbender is a native speaker), there's simply no way any German native speaker would believe that accent is real.
I thought it only applied to nazis
>there's simply no way any German native speaker would believe that accent is real
As an American the way some people here speak might as well be a foreign language.
In a pre-internet world I could definitely believe some mountain bumpkin sounds so absurdly different.
Perhaps, but the SS officer is established as an expert on accents in that scene, as he calls out the Frankfurt and Viennese accents from the other spies, which indicates that his character can pick out any German speaker with pinpoint accuracy.
What I think is that the SS agent let it slip because number one he was in the company of that German actress so he didn't expect her to be a traitor.Number two he wanted to be close to her. That's why he quickly came to their table and suggested playing that guessing game with them.
>German here
>No, the 3-finger gesture is not a thing, at least it's not something we ever would've noticed or cared about.
You are speaking from a position of 80 years of being influenced by American culture and media. It's no wonder you have lost such simple yet distinct cultural features.
You know interacting with one's grandparents isn't a theoretical fantasy scenario, but a very real and mundane thing?
People use whatever gesture comes naturally to them, be with 3 fingers or 2 fingers and a thumb.
Also Germany is so decentralized and federalized that I doubt there was ever any unified German way of doing anything, certainly not one for hand gestures.
>german here
you're a turk rapebaby, mehmet
And you're Puerto Rican, what of it?
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he had fricked up over and over throughout the scene from inexperience and overconfidence, pretending this was the only reason he gave himself away is asinine
>uh, yeah obviously I know I was doing the non-German way of signalling three. I was actually doing it to mock you, because you are an English spy
> implying: underestimated
The german was already suspicious and literally no one in germany now or then would use those digits to signify the number 3.
When he called him out on it the brit immediately gave up the charade.
He said he was Swiss. How did every fricking moron skip this, of course he wasn't German in his own lie.
that's irrelevant you fricking moron
It's completely relevant.
-He said he was swiss
-swiss person does something that non-germans do(IE SWISS)
-German somehow gets suspicious.
If he said he was German, then it would make sense. Swiss are not Germans, so it's normal for them to do things that Germans don't.
You are brown.
have a nice day
>wrath of the brownoid part VII
>AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH IM BROWWWWNNN
are you by chance
BROWN
1, he doesn't say he was Swiss, he says he comes from a village near a mountain in the Alps, and 2, you assume they don't know what Swiss accents sound like because....?
>Swiss are not Germans
Citation needed. Pretty sure they are as German as Austria. If they aren't German, why didn't Hitler invade them? Man wanted to conquer all of Europe to the point of shelling Britain, but just leaves this tiny country in the middle of his realm untouched, just because?
>just because?
Just because that's where all his money was stashed and Switzerland is the most powerful country in the world, you insolent Black person.
>Like the young, newly christened father, I too have an acute ear for accents. And like him, I too find yours odd. From where do you hail, Captain?
>I was born in the village that rests in the shadow of Pitz Palu.
>The mountain?
>Yes. In that village we all speak like this. Have you seen the Riefenstahl film?
The film being The White Hell of Pitz Palu. "I'm from a tiny village where we have weird accents like this one that sounds like I learned German from a book" is a pretty bad excuse. The Gestapo is suspicious from the start, it's his job to be, he says at the final standoff he's had a gun readied since he sat down. The finger cue was merely the final straw.
It would have been less suspicious for him to say his mom was English or something
He makes nonstop mistakes in the scene, he's in way over his head. People expect him to be James Bond or something for some reason.
I'm pretty sure the scene is intended as something of a subversion or send-up of the spy genre, in that his throwing his weight around only makes things worse and digs himself deeper, and eventually winds up with everyone in the room bar one dead.
That they're all far less competent and in control than they assume is the theme of the film, Hitler only winds up dead because of about three different plans in varying stages of collapse collide violently and wind up with everyone in the theater dead, including Hitler, the target.
Like Landa just laughs out loud at how fricking moronic their story to explain why there's some Italians who can't pronounce their own names and why the actress suddenly has a broken foot is. At every turn they manage to both overthink and underthink their excuses (broke her foot mountain climbing....in Paris. Why not just say you slipped on the stairs or getting out of a car? Likewise "I speak a little I-talian" turns out to be "Hello").
Even Landa is less in control than either he thinks, or he would like to let others think, he's more rolling with the punches than planning everything out
Indeed, it's a dominos thing. The drunk soldier that blabbers at their table is a nuisance but the actress was also already handling it gently, he suddenly butts in with asserting authority which only serves to draw attention to his accent and attract the suspicion of the gestapo.
Yeah I thought about that too especially because of his soft demeanor and what he said about the whiskey.
>. Swiss are not Germans
21st century Americans understanding of German lmao
Swiss Germans were considered Germans who just happened to live in another political entity. However, the Swiss speak an Alemmanic dialect which is also spoken in the southwest of Germany.
>21st century Americans understanding of German lmao
t.Brown who knows nothing about Switzerland or even Europe.
brown detected and discarded with extreme prejudice
You are clearly an autistic sperg if you get hung up on details such as this instead of being able to think on a conceptual level.
So to continue to reply to you would literally mean getting into an argument with a moron.
Don't @ me, I'm done.
>Don't @ me I'm brown
Swiss accents are very recognizable and "iconic" (notoriously awful, for Hochdeutsch speakers), his accent wasn't anything close to Swiss, hence the SS officer not buying the obvious bullshit.
Do the 3 finger thing in Germany today and literally nobody will even notice it, that's a Tarantino plot device and not a real shibboleth
>germany today
the movie takes place during WW2
If they went by accent then that would be the end of it. But the finger thing was dumb since he wasn't pretending to even be German in the first place but swiss.
I don't think this is as strong an argument as you seem to think it is.
Tarantino does the same thing in Django. Schulz goes full moron just so he can have a big shootout in the third act
>blabbers constantly to needlessly assert authority which only serves to call attention to his weird accent and attract the suspicion of the Gestapo, even though the actress had it under control
>gives a shitty vague excuse when it's called out
>uses wrong cultural signals
He should have been speaking as little as possible to avoid drawing attention to himself, instead he was trying too hard to dominate the situation and only dug himself deeper.
Furthermore, it was a German police agent (SS) who discovered his identity, basically the intention of the Third Reich; That's why he was so obsessed with the accent.
>why is your accent weird
>I broke my jaw in basic training
Yo Heinz it's T Dawg. What do German people do that English people don't that if they did it pretending to be German would get them found out? Also I need you to translate some of this script into German. Peace.
I'm sure op feels more comfortable with a script written by the Nolans in which they have to explain to him what is happening every second of the movie.
Last third of the movie, i.e. after this was shit.
Everything up until that point was captivating though.
It is a thing thoughalbeitver. I take notice when people signal 3 without the thumb, plus the nazi was already suspicious of him from the start.
germans do this though
>t. had a german gf and lived there and asked the family when the film came out
Thats unironically something that could happen in real life
Or in a movie made by a guy that wants to see it happen. People don't seem to understand what Tarantino means by he makes movies for himself. They can't comprehend that he writes movies because he wants to see it play out. He's so obsessed with movies he started making his own to watch. It makes people so upset and I can't help but find it hilarious.
German is a highly regional language, they have a crap ton of accents, not just in Germany but in Austria and Switzerland too, so meeting someone who has effectively no discernibly real accent is weird. Particularly during a war and you're a Gestapo, you hear a guy who does not sound like a native speaker of German at all but is wearing a captain's uniform.
What if you can't bend your fingers like this or the other way either for that matter? What happens then?
executed for being inferior
It didn't make sense, he was swiss (or claiming to be)
Do Swiss people make that gesture anon? Do they also speak like Englishmen who learned German from a textbook?
I don't know, do they?
Swiss people are made up of Swiss Italians and Swiss Germans. The Swiss Italians only ski and the Swiss Germans only make clocks.
My wife is German. I tested this. It's not an asspull, I asked her family when we were visiting Germany a few years ago to show me 3 fingers and they did all used a thumb.
>4chuds on this scene: "it's pure contrivance no one would notice something like that"
>4chuds when they spot a typo: "Get fricked ESL!"
No ever brings up the fact that he said he was swiss in these threads. Everyone has their phone out during these movies and has no idea what's happening
>gif three glasses
The terrible accent had already exposed him
Same scene today:
>drei Gläser, bitte
>من المؤكد أنك لست من هنا
What is your interpretation of Aldo Rain marking Landa's forehead at the end of the film?
Giving a "frick you" to him no matter the cost and letting him live with that humiliation forever despite getting his cushy deal.