I hate it too, but there is a reason beyond the meme 'he wasn't the protagonist'
In China there is a saying where 'everyone should be in their place', like as a cosmic alignment. Tai couldn't get the dragon scroll meaning because he wasn't the dragon warrior, but we don't see why he is unworthy, so he seem to just rebel against fate, and we (as westners) sympathize with him.
But basically old philosophy believe this bullshit because you need to justify kings have 'powers' given by god.
Aka, Ye, the only reason Tai wasn't the dragon warrior is because he is not the protagonist.
Yes. Shifu nurtured his hubris & didn't understand that it caused Tai to be unhinged despite his skill. Oogway could see the madness within him. The obsession with supremacy.
>2008
Anon, it was 2008 the youngest millennials would already be in middle school, the vast majority of them were teens at this point. kung fu Panda is early Zoomers.
I thought you meant an official comic in which the situation is played for laughs but I looked it up and it’s actually porn, I should have know better, don’t know why I expected such a description not to be accurate instead of hyperbolic
>Daddy issues homosexual is still posting about his fursona.
Why dont you just go tell your dad that youre gay to get back at him? Bring your ass bandit to Thanksgiving next month.
Because it's darker in content and lighting? Is that it?
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nope.
all of the above
- better story
- waaay better animation
- soundtrack is even better
need I go on? what magically makes the first film this golden movie that must be praised as the best one?
>zero involvement from directors of first film (John Stevenson and Mark Osborne) as well as the duo credited under "story by" (Ethan Reiff and Cyrus Voris) >directed by a South Korean born woman who never directed anything before >Guillermo del Toro as a creative consultant >clearly made in a rush (only a 3 years gap between both films) >unlike the first film, it had 3D glasses as an option on theaters >Victor Garber and Jean-Claude Van Damme play new characters with less than 6 lines each and barely any screentime >shorter length than first film for some reason >comedy went from consistently amusing to being consistently unfunny >no Oogway and barely any Shifu >no training scenes >no flashback of the villain as a child or before he became twisted (thus humanizing him a bit) >doesn't have a small scene after the credits are over, like first film does
Why do some people like this?
Besides 4 episodes of a late 90s cartoon, the director of second film (released in 2011) had no previous experience as director. She wasn't partnered with a co director either.
>no Oogway
he fricking died >no training scenes
what the frick are you talking about moron >no flashback of the villain as a child or before he became twisted
they do this
this movie is kino and you are moronic
>no flashback of the villain as a child or before he became twisted (thus humanizing him a bit)
't have a small scene after the credits are over, like first film does
There was a cute fan animation short about baby Shen just like the official credits with baby Po. Can't find it anywhere now.
it's not even edgy. what's more humorous to me about the vilification of hitler--who despite a few key flaws (identifying the problem of the israelites and getting rid of them was not one of those flaws) was objectively one of the best leader's in germany's history--is that we don't vilify any of the historical leaders of any of the many, many other countries that expelled or exterminated the israelites and led their own nations into a subsequent golden age.
the instant they split it into "adult gif" and "worksafe gif" the implication was clear that /gif/ would basically only be for porn and gore. these days I only visit gif when israel is under attack and 80%+ of the blacked, cuckold, troony, gay, etc threads subside due to the bulk of the shills that normally spam and bump them being stuck in bunkers.
anyone who thinks they're the hottest shit around and immediately sperg rages when told "no" does not have the discipline required to be given power and responsibility.
>Mental midget can't value his own hard work and sacrifice and just lusts after power
Many such cases. Shifu deserves blame for not noticing his flaws and feeding into it but Tai Lung isn't sympathetic at all outside of his daddy issues.
All of them dedicated their life to hard work and training. None of them could do it while also realizing themselves that they are good enough except Po. Tai Lung specifically gets blinded by a lust for power after realizing he's not the chosen one, which is precisely why he can never be it.
to be fair that's what his father shi fu made him to believe and put him though. Kung fu panda is an allegory for asian tiger parenting. And that lazy do nothing white parenting is better. Which is disagree with having two pot smoking parents who didn't care about me.
Asians act like having a parent that wants them to do well in school and have good grades is the worst thing ever.
Shifu didnt make him believe shit. He pushed him hard and gave gave him delusions of grandeur like any other parent that told their kids they can be anything they want. Tai Lung was heartbroken by reality and took it out on the world instead of finding inner peace. It's why he failed in the first place. Also stop acting like Po didn't do any work to become the dragon warrior, the entire point was that it's just you. He wasnt given some mythical force that everyone else was chasing he just put in the work and believed in himself.
For as lame as Jack Black became in his later days, at least he provided kino like this before going full moron. >my face when Jack Black had Kung Fu Panda 1 & Tropic Thunder in the same year
>Guys, guys. I know about Tai Lung. He was a student, the first ever to master the thousand scrolls of kung fu... and then he turned bad and... now he's in jail... >He wasn't just a student. Shifu found him as a cub, and he raised him as his son... And when the boy showed talent in kung fu, Shifu trained him. He believed in him. He told him he was destined for greatness... It was never enough for Tai Lung. He wanted the Dragon Scroll. But Oogway saw darkness in his heart and refused. Outraged, Tai Lung laid waste to the valley. He tried to take the scroll by force
>I rotted in jail for twenty years because of your weakness! >Obeying your master is not weakness! >You knew I was the Dragon Warrior! You always knew. But when Oogway said otherwise, what did you do? What did you do?! Nothing! >You were not meant to be the Dragon Warrior! That was not my fault! >Not your fault?! Who filled my head with dreams?! Who drove me to train until my bones cracked?! Who denied me my destiny?!
>All I ever did, I did to make you proud! Tell me how proud you are, Shifu! Tell me! Tell me! >I... have always been proud of you. From the first moment, I've been... proud of you. And it was my pride... that blinded me. I loved you too much to see what you were becoming. What I... was turning you into... I'm... I'm sorry >(Tai Lung is touched by Shifu's words and a long pause happens. However, he then chooses to remain bitter and grabs Shifu by the throat) I don't want your apology. I want my scroll!
Good villain
>Tai Lung was the first student to ever master the thousand scrolls of kung fu, thus making him the most gifted and skilled student in China, yet he wouldn't be satisfied until reading the Dragon Scroll (going as far to ruin his reputation on China and his relationship with Shifu when he was denied the scroll)
Says a lot about him
Shifu didnt make him believe shit. He pushed him hard and gave gave him delusions of grandeur like any other parent that told their kids they can be anything they want. Tai Lung was heartbroken by reality and took it out on the world instead of finding inner peace. It's why he failed in the first place. Also stop acting like Po didn't do any work to become the dragon warrior, the entire point was that it's just you. He wasnt given some mythical force that everyone else was chasing he just put in the work and believed in himself.
Reminder that Shifu took in Tai Lung as his adoptive son and named and raised him. Shifu was the one who named him "Tai Lung" which LITERALLY means "Great Dragon"
You inmediately notice that something is wrong with the second film as soon as it begins. Ignoring the idiocy of this backstory, why did this have to be told at the start? Why not save it for later?
what is there to sympathize with, sure you can argue he got dicked over but at the same time he proved ug correct when in response to being denied he tard raged hard, there really isn't anything to sympathize with that
sexo
bump
Explain to me how Tai Lung is a villain.
You literally can't.
I hate it too, but there is a reason beyond the meme 'he wasn't the protagonist'
In China there is a saying where 'everyone should be in their place', like as a cosmic alignment. Tai couldn't get the dragon scroll meaning because he wasn't the dragon warrior, but we don't see why he is unworthy, so he seem to just rebel against fate, and we (as westners) sympathize with him.
But basically old philosophy believe this bullshit because you need to justify kings have 'powers' given by god.
Aka, Ye, the only reason Tai wasn't the dragon warrior is because he is not the protagonist.
>but we don't see why he is unworthy
Wasn't it because the wise turtle could just tell he was a power hungry butthole deep down?
Yes. Shifu nurtured his hubris & didn't understand that it caused Tai to be unhinged despite his skill. Oogway could see the madness within him. The obsession with supremacy.
basically anakin
Did Tai Lung kill people when he "laid waste to the valley" for did he just smash some property?
Seems like they retconned that into being the peawiener in 2.
>leopard wants scroll
>turtle says no
>leopard babyrages so hard they have to lock him up
he sperged out and started hurting people when he couldn't get the thing he defined his entire self worth on (last part is shifu's fault)
He pulled a Raoh.
The millennial loves Tai Lung because the millennial is Tai Lung.
Millennials like Tai Lung because it's a millennial movie.
>2008
Anon, it was 2008 the youngest millennials would already be in middle school, the vast majority of them were teens at this point. kung fu Panda is early Zoomers.
He can perform kung-fu on me if you know what I mean
Yes that was the point, he was the master's failure.
yeah getting life sentence without being able to move at all for trying to beat down your master is way too much
I frickin hate the second film. What a hack-job script.
I like the comic where Shen gets amnesia and becomes the wolf's wife and gets his cloaca knotted
I thought you meant an official comic in which the situation is played for laughs but I looked it up and it’s actually porn, I should have know better, don’t know why I expected such a description not to be accurate instead of hyperbolic
>Daddy issues homosexual is still posting about his fursona.
Why dont you just go tell your dad that youre gay to get back at him? Bring your ass bandit to Thanksgiving next month.
Your mom.
Sonny was the one killed in real life but I felt bad for him in the movie.
OPs question isn’t the real topic, this is a stealth Kung Fu panda thread
If the villain in KFP4 isn’t a seductress that flirts with Po and makes Tigress jealous I’ll be very disappointed
If Bryan Cranston doesn't come back as the Dad then I'll be disappointed. Lord knows he needs the work.
Feds were the villains tbh.
The Bonnanos were cool when they weren't whacking each other over gabagool and coke.
>non animal/profession names in first film : Po, Shifu, Oogway, Tai Lung, Mr. Ping, Vachir, Zeng
>non animal/profession names in second film : Shen
They didn't try hard with that sequel
>Shifu
That's a title. It's similar to the Japanese "sensei".
Shen was in the best part of kfp2
What a boring film, and i liked the first one.
what are you on about?
The second film isn't good at all, outside of the 3 scenes with the goose dad (some weak jokes aside)
it was the best one tho
Because it's darker in content and lighting? Is that it?
nope.
all of the above
- better story
- waaay better animation
- soundtrack is even better
need I go on? what magically makes the first film this golden movie that must be praised as the best one?
Did Po kill him? I only ever watched the first movie and he just kind of disappears after the finger hold.
He was sent to the spirit realm. In the 3rd film, Kai is seen wearing Tai Lung's chi amulet, so they fought even though it isn't shown
>zero involvement from directors of first film (John Stevenson and Mark Osborne) as well as the duo credited under "story by" (Ethan Reiff and Cyrus Voris)
>directed by a South Korean born woman who never directed anything before
>Guillermo del Toro as a creative consultant
>clearly made in a rush (only a 3 years gap between both films)
>unlike the first film, it had 3D glasses as an option on theaters
>Victor Garber and Jean-Claude Van Damme play new characters with less than 6 lines each and barely any screentime
>shorter length than first film for some reason
>comedy went from consistently amusing to being consistently unfunny
>no Oogway and barely any Shifu
>no training scenes
>no flashback of the villain as a child or before he became twisted (thus humanizing him a bit)
>doesn't have a small scene after the credits are over, like first film does
Why do some people like this?
>”never directed anything before”
That explains a lot, actually
Besides 4 episodes of a late 90s cartoon, the director of second film (released in 2011) had no previous experience as director. She wasn't partnered with a co director either.
frick u it was good, shen best villain
We do see a flashback of the bird. He's a psycho little shit even then
First computer generated film directed only by a woman. She knew this, yet still screwed up. Not a good film.
Despite all of this it’s still not Dreamworks’ worst film.
>no Oogway
he fricking died
>no training scenes
what the frick are you talking about moron
>no flashback of the villain as a child or before he became twisted
they do this
this movie is kino and you are moronic
>no flashback of the villain as a child or before he became twisted (thus humanizing him a bit)
't have a small scene after the credits are over, like first film does
There was a cute fan animation short about baby Shen just like the official credits with baby Po. Can't find it anywhere now.
At least stick to Cinemaphile. Also lol that artist is probably dead.
sauce me up senpai
He said villains.
>german citizen
Yeah, that’s an automatic villain.
good
great
He didn't post Stalin or Marx
it's not even edgy. what's more humorous to me about the vilification of hitler--who despite a few key flaws (identifying the problem of the israelites and getting rid of them was not one of those flaws) was objectively one of the best leader's in germany's history--is that we don't vilify any of the historical leaders of any of the many, many other countries that expelled or exterminated the israelites and led their own nations into a subsequent golden age.
Agreed but his post as well as yours is offtopic. Just meant to provoke a reaction and derail the thread.
Okay but Hitler was a little too good at it. It's not fair.
>who despite a few key flaws
Like wanting to destroy humanity.
>was objectively one of the best leader's in germany's history
How the frick is totally getting the German state dismantled good?
Kys troony
>only trannies don't like Hitler
Yes.
So were the allies all trans?
>israelite seething
dont you have a bcc thread on /gif/ to post in?
>/pol/gay is also a /gif/ degen
I'm honestly shocked
>he only uses one board
Discord troons split up the boards, natural users use the whole site.
>natural users use the whole site.
So you go on /LGBT/ and /hm/ as well?
To -ack post? Yes. You don't?
Ah yes you only frequent it to laugh at them, sure...
How is it degen to not like israelites posting porn on /gif/? Have you been there? Its almost unusable, no interesting videos just porn.
the instant they split it into "adult gif" and "worksafe gif" the implication was clear that /gif/ would basically only be for porn and gore. these days I only visit gif when israel is under attack and 80%+ of the blacked, cuckold, troony, gay, etc threads subside due to the bulk of the shills that normally spam and bump them being stuck in bunkers.
>bcc
Not a villain.
anyone who thinks they're the hottest shit around and immediately sperg rages when told "no" does not have the discipline required to be given power and responsibility.
>Mental midget can't value his own hard work and sacrifice and just lusts after power
Many such cases. Shifu deserves blame for not noticing his flaws and feeding into it but Tai Lung isn't sympathetic at all outside of his daddy issues.
>dedication to life of hard work and training le bad
>just be le fat panda and get handed super powers by doing nothing
All of them dedicated their life to hard work and training. None of them could do it while also realizing themselves that they are good enough except Po. Tai Lung specifically gets blinded by a lust for power after realizing he's not the chosen one, which is precisely why he can never be it.
to be fair that's what his father shi fu made him to believe and put him though. Kung fu panda is an allegory for asian tiger parenting. And that lazy do nothing white parenting is better. Which is disagree with having two pot smoking parents who didn't care about me.
Asians act like having a parent that wants them to do well in school and have good grades is the worst thing ever.
Shifu didnt make him believe shit. He pushed him hard and gave gave him delusions of grandeur like any other parent that told their kids they can be anything they want. Tai Lung was heartbroken by reality and took it out on the world instead of finding inner peace. It's why he failed in the first place. Also stop acting like Po didn't do any work to become the dragon warrior, the entire point was that it's just you. He wasnt given some mythical force that everyone else was chasing he just put in the work and believed in himself.
The third film destroys that message.
Kung Fu Panda is one of my favorite animated films of all time and possibly in my top 10 for any film.
Same. Zoomers will never understand.
For as lame as Jack Black became in his later days, at least he provided kino like this before going full moron.
>my face when Jack Black had Kung Fu Panda 1 & Tropic Thunder in the same year
Damn I just finished sleeping dogs again and now I’m gonna go rewatch this film, I need more Chinakino in my life
>Guys, guys. I know about Tai Lung. He was a student, the first ever to master the thousand scrolls of kung fu... and then he turned bad and... now he's in jail...
>He wasn't just a student. Shifu found him as a cub, and he raised him as his son... And when the boy showed talent in kung fu, Shifu trained him. He believed in him. He told him he was destined for greatness... It was never enough for Tai Lung. He wanted the Dragon Scroll. But Oogway saw darkness in his heart and refused. Outraged, Tai Lung laid waste to the valley. He tried to take the scroll by force
>I rotted in jail for twenty years because of your weakness!
>Obeying your master is not weakness!
>You knew I was the Dragon Warrior! You always knew. But when Oogway said otherwise, what did you do? What did you do?! Nothing!
>You were not meant to be the Dragon Warrior! That was not my fault!
>Not your fault?! Who filled my head with dreams?! Who drove me to train until my bones cracked?! Who denied me my destiny?!
>All I ever did, I did to make you proud! Tell me how proud you are, Shifu! Tell me! Tell me!
>I... have always been proud of you. From the first moment, I've been... proud of you. And it was my pride... that blinded me. I loved you too much to see what you were becoming. What I... was turning you into... I'm... I'm sorry
>(Tai Lung is touched by Shifu's words and a long pause happens. However, he then chooses to remain bitter and grabs Shifu by the throat) I don't want your apology. I want my scroll!
Good villain
>Tai Lung was the first student to ever master the thousand scrolls of kung fu, thus making him the most gifted and skilled student in China, yet he wouldn't be satisfied until reading the Dragon Scroll (going as far to ruin his reputation on China and his relationship with Shifu when he was denied the scroll)
Says a lot about him
Reminder that Shifu took in Tai Lung as his adoptive son and named and raised him. Shifu was the one who named him "Tai Lung" which LITERALLY means "Great Dragon"
Second film is a crapfest by an amateur director.
Tai Lung is a Nietschizan ubermensch who rejected the slave morality obeisance of the kung-fu temple and created his own philosophy and worldview
>created his own philosophy and worldview
Which was?
You inmediately notice that something is wrong with the second film as soon as it begins. Ignoring the idiocy of this backstory, why did this have to be told at the start? Why not save it for later?
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The Law is not mocked.
He was just trying to save his culture from hooman degeneracy.
>Only way for change to happen is if he ends up destroying the entire planet and killing billions
>Was very likely to kill himself if he succeeded
TELL ME HOW PROUD YOU ARE
what is there to sympathize with, sure you can argue he got dicked over but at the same time he proved ug correct when in response to being denied he tard raged hard, there really isn't anything to sympathize with that