I've never seen a non Daniel Craig bond. What are the essential ones? Is pic related one of them? Bond thread I guess
I've never seen a non Daniel Craig bond. What are the essential ones? Is pic related one of them?
I've never seen a non Daniel Craig bond. What are the essential ones? Is pic related one of them? Bond thread I guess
You've never seen a Bond.
So which do you recommend, that's why I asked
Dr No and so on. It's like Godzilla you're gonna watch them all and have your favorites
Goldfinger
stale meme
Casino Royale is based off a Fleming novel and directed by the same guy who did Goldeneye.
Watch goldeneye then tomorrow never dies. Then watch both the timothy dalton movies. for older ones I recommend goldfinger, you only live twice, dimonds are forever, live and let die, man with the golden gun, and spy who loved me.
Thanks anon, I'll probably start tonight. Have a nice day
This guy gets it, a lot of fans will tell you to jump straight into the Connery shit but if you are a Zoomer who's only seen Craig your best bet is to start with Brosnan or Dalton before making the leap.
Okay, I'll watch Goldeneye tonight and Never Dies tomorrow.
Man am I missing something with Live And Let Die? I thought it was goofy as shit. Not in a fun way, more in a "get this Smokey and the Bandit bullshit out of here" sort of way. I'd swap it for From Russia With Love but to each his own.
It has a great theme song. Dont really remember much from it apart from that black guy exploding.
If it’s the one with the incredibly arduous car chase sequence then I agree
based question answerer
Tomorrow never dies is literally the worst brosnan bond
>Tomorrow never dies is literally the worst brosnan bond
The World is Not Enough is underrated kino except for its one glaring flaw.
TWiNE is dull as shit, and Denise Richards doesn't help, meanwhile Teri Hatcher drags down TND harder than Denise does for TWiNE, but TND is a great movie otherwise.
>TWiNE is dull as shit
really?....I man REALLY? i don't think so.
Why do people seethe at Denise Richards being a scientist isn't that the joke?
homosexuals because they're jealous
I don't seethe at her being a scientist, I seethe at her being a shitty actress who takes up valuable screentime that could've been better spent developing Elektra and Robert Carlyle
They also somehow had her swimming underwater in a wife beater with no bra but removed her nipples completely, the worst mistake of the entire series
>OH NO JAMES LOOK OUT IT'S A LAME UNDERWATER SEQUENCE
Awesome bad guy... Teri Hatcher... it's not The World Is Not Enough... not sure what else you could argue here
good list i would also just add thunderball because that one is classic
goldeneye is pemanently ruined by austin powers-tier nonsense, famke jamse making lamentations while going postal on sattelite workers, and having to see pierce brosnans "O" face center frame in fake sex fighting
Diamonds are Forever and Live and Let Die are fricking trash. Watch From Russia With Love before Goldeneye.
Live and Let Die is great! All the 70s blaxploitation is so entertaining.
I'd add Moonraker just for its sheer absurdity
Moonraker gets dissed here a lot, but I really love it. Dr. Goodhead probably has something to do with it.
Dalton films are ass.
All the 60s entries are essential. After that, it's very hit-and-miss.
Start with Connery's films and go from there.
Tomorrow Never Dies is a great Brosnan Bond film. Has probably the best introduction of any Bond film in the series.
>I've never seen a non Daniel Craig bond
Damn, really? If I put a restraint on myself and choose just three, I'd say GoldenEye, the Man with the Golden Gun, and Goldfinger, but every choice will be highly subjective.
I even liked the one with Lazenby.
>What are the essential ones? Is pic related one of them?
On her majesty's secret service
Moonraker
Goldfinger
Die another day
No time to die
This is my top 5 and basically the essential backbone of the Bond franchise, enjoy
>No time to die
The Craig bond films are not bond gilms. Only Casino Royale in any way resembles a Bond flick. The rest are generic action movies.
Casino Royale is the only Bond flick to faithfully follow the novel from start to finish, you fricking mong
>resembles a Bond flick
>On her majesty's secret service
>moonraker
don't listen to this guy
I can get OHMSS being a contrarian pick but it is one of the best looking Bond films ever, definitely moreso than any Connery movie. And one of the best villains.
>it is one of the best looking Bond films ever
Definitely. It and Skyfall are the two standouts, though there might be others I'm not thinking of. I don't care for OHMSS as an overall movie, though. Too much of it sucks.
SPECTRE is a fantastic looking movie. Too bad its so fricking meh. The tone was simply off. Like the car chase with Bautista. Its beautifully shot. But the tone is of a sunday ride to the grocery store. I just don't think Mendes wanted to be there.
Connery: Dr No, From Russia with Love, Goldfinger. Bonus film if you liked the previous three: You only live twice.
Moore: The Spy who loved me, Moonraker, For your eyes only. Bonus film: A View to a Kill.
Dalton: Both films.
Brosnan: Goldeneye and The world is not enough. Bonus film: Die another day.
i would switch view to a kill with octopussy the entire bomb defusal scene was great and i am tired of people turning their nose up at it.
Octopussy is dumb. Except when the movie is firing in all cylinders and then it's just good dumb fun. It's the pinnacle of what is distinct about the Roger Moore films. It's a great dumb adventure movie. Eveb a family fun movie assuming your children are preteen boys. But it's a terrible Bond film -- as all roger moor films are. (I enjoyed it)
Based. I'd just add Man with the Golden Gun.
Best list in the thread. Order doesn't really matter much, so just jump around eras and watch whatever you feel like that day.
this is excellent, though i'd swap YOLT for NSNA
Spy Who Loved Me
GoldenEye
Live and Let Die
Die Another Day
Dr No
From Russia With Love
Start at the beginning, the first twenty are all worth watching
Why is no one recommending Thunderball?
Because it's a bloated mess of a film.
It was just Dr. No but with more swimming
because it's super overrated and inferior to Goldfinger in every way. all of the Austin Powers cliches begin with Thunderball
Mandatory
yeesh that hairline
You smell like estrogen.
From Russia with Love
You Only Live Twice
Moonraker
Licence to Kill
GoldenEye
Look up thr highest ranked with each of the actors then watch more with the ones you like. Or start from the beginning. Watching Goldeneye is a must.
Answers for the top five 'objective' best commonly include
>From Russia with Love
>Goldfinger
>The Spy Who Love Me
>GoldenEye
>With On Her Majesty’s Secret Service and Casino Royale also both being common answers albeit ones that are notably contentious in a way the others are not.
As for my top five favourites (listed by order of release) they probably are
>The Spy Who Loved Me - which I would say is the most James Bond film there is
>For Your Eyes Only
>Octopussy
>The Living Daylights
>Licence to Kill
My take for best, worst and favourite film of each Bond…
Connery
>Best: From Russia with Love - I can easily see why some people would argue Goldfinger is better and that is fair, though I will say many people list Goldfinger as the best Bond film simply since they are parroting ‘common knowledge’ without actually having reasons why.
>Worst: Diamonds Are Forever
>Favourite: You Only Live Twice
Lazenby
>Only one film - I don’t list it as either one of the particular best nor as one of my favourites but, I wouldn’t say it is bad or that I dislike it.
Moore
>Best and favourite: The Spy Who Loved Me
>Worst: A View to a Kill
Dalton
>Only two - I like and rank highly both though I favour Licence to Kill.
Brosnan
>Best: GoldenEye
>Worst: Die Another Day - yet I don't think it is as bad as some say, at the very least I wouldn’t say it is soulless.
>Favourite: The World Is Not Enough
Craig
>Best and favourite: Casino Royale
>Worst: Either Spectre or No Time To Die - I lean towards the latter.
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The only pre-Craig Bond films that I don't like are Diamonds Are Forever and A View to a Kill; The Man with the Golden Gun is also weak however, I don't find myself skipping it like I do the other two. I distinguish between pre-Craig and the Craig-era as the Craig-era films are ultimately just superficially Bond. The 2010s Mission Impossible films, The Man from U.N.C.L.E. and Kingsman are closer in tone to the pre-Craig era than the Craig-era itself is to the rest of Bond. Early Craig films are marred from being haunted by Austin Powers and trying to be Jason Bourne; whereas later Craig films try to rekindle aspects from pre-Craig era however, come across as a hollow since the Craig-era continues to misunderstand the character/franchise. The Craig-era also mopes about generally and more specifically with the meta question ‘Is Bond even relevant?’ both regarding his role in-universe & as franchise; that meta question is something Brosnan’s first film overcame with the answer being ‘Yes, in-universe Bond has value and real-world critics of the character/franchise can go frick-themselves if they seriously think Bond is problematic and not cool’.
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I like the Craig movies well enough, but trying to get away from the tropes only to go back to them plus the asking the question of "Is Bond relevant anymore?" when the Brosnan movies did that too and better in fact, really does betray the entire point of the movies.
Bond as a character doesn't make sense anymore because Britain is no longer a world power with global influence. When the books were written, Britain had colonial influence in every continent and sea on the planet, and was the second-most powerful and wealthy country in the world. The Soviets putting serious focus on them was an actual reality, whereas today Britain is barely a regional power and not even the biggest one in its region.
The only way to keep making Bond movies is to either set them in an alternate universe where the UK is a superpower, or make them period-pieces set in the 1950s.
That's not true. The books are largely about the loss of the empire and Bond reading against British irrelevance by showing the cia how it should be done
It was about the eclipse of the empire yes, with the ghosts of that past still resonating heavily in the world as the Soviets and SPECTRE trying to move in and fill the power vacuum. It's very much a product of the cold war. That stuff doesn't work 60 years after the fact, though. The US has been undisputed king of the world for over a generation at this point, and the only potential rival is economically reliant on the US and thus only focused on the US. Britain does not factor into global geopolitics anymore. A British secret agent jetsetting around the world uncovering conspiracies against the British state is laughable archaic in the 21st century. Maybe if he was working domestically, but at that point it's not Bond anymore.
It would if anyone had the balls to see the CCP as a villain
They would never have the CCP itself be the villain in the same way the USSR was never the villain in the Cold War Bond films. The USSR may have been an adversary however, it was not itself collectively portrayed as villainous. What actual Soviet villains the films had were rogues and traitors to the USSR.
Bond is a escapist character that operates in a world where an industrialist wanting to rebuild civilisation under the ocean is one of the most archetypical and kino films of the franchise. If you want genuine serious and realistic spy fiction than Bond has never been that nor would the franchise make more sense if he was say American.
They're still grounded in the geopolitical realities of their era, coasting on Britain's global cultural influence.
Don't be the guy who tries to justify the Fellowship driving a BMW to Mordor.
>I distinguish between pre-Craig and the Craig-era as the Craig-era films are ultimately just superficially Bond. The 2010s Mission Impossible films, The Man from U.N.C.L.E. and Kingsman are closer in tone to the pre-Craig era than the Craig-era itself is to the rest of Bond.
Based appreciator of spirit
The main issue with Craig's Bond films is that they're largely embarrassed to be James Bond, which is the result of a studio overreaction to Austin Powers mocking them and Jason Bourne being more modern than them. The real question is why that overreaction lasted so damn long.
>The real question is why that overreaction lasted so damn long.
People working on Bond self-congratulating themselves as the voices they cared to listen to were saying the Craig films were brilliant.
>Austin Powers Jason Bourne
That is only part of it. The early-Craig films are influenced by that however, the later-Craig films suffer from wider creative industry problems that come from woke/progressive (whatever you want to call it) attitudes.
Nah, the issue with the later Craig films actually stem all the way from the 2008 writers' strike
>strike hits as they're in the middle of filming QoS
>Craig and the director are forced to develop and rewrite parts of the story on their own, somehow end up turning it into a direct sequel to CR
>this means his first and second films are now connected as one mission, something not done before in Bond
>it's also this Bond's first mission, so two films in and we've only seen Craig's Bond right at the start
>Skyfall jumps ahead but then jumps ahead again after the intro where Bond is shot, spends a significant amount of time rehabilitating him
>Spectre ends up trying to retroactively tie the Craig films all together, going off of CR and QoS being connected in perhaps the dumbest plot twist of all the Bond films (pic related)
>NTTD continues the shitty Spectre plotline and then also brings back the 'too old for this shit' arc that Skyfall already covered
>end result is that it feels like we really only see Craig's Bond at the beginning and ending of his career, and his career ended up being a convoluted mess
This is why QoS grew into becoming my favorite Bond of all time film after repeat viewings. Its the only Craig Bond movie with Bond operating at full power. i HATED how thing gimped him in Skyfall...fricking hated it.
I recently rewatched QoS, and I don't think it deserves the hate it gets. definitely in the top half of films, not bad just flawed (shaky cam and fisticuffs that go on forever)
Agreed with this. The overarching plot was as dumb as they say, but that's the case in almost every Bond movie. The movie rankers always sperg about about changes to the familiar beats. Unless you're making Bond into a deadpan serialized anime opera, then apparently they give it 10/10. They said they same shit about LTK and that movie is packed with kino.
>The overarching plot was as dumb as they say
I thought it was actually really good. They combined a typical Bond-villain plot with the Bond-goes-rogue LTK type story. They had their cake and ate it too. Bond also has more pep in his step from Craig in this one. the problem it has is just that it cuts around so quickly during the story beats, but the action scenes really drag on likely because they needed to fill time and the writers were on strike
The tone of CS was exactly what the franchise needed at the time. The Brosnan take on Bond was way past its due date. When a franchise stays around so long that it becomes a self referential parody of itself you know its over. Batman & Robn and Austin Powers 3 are perfect examples of this. When a franchise starts eating its own tail its time to put it to bed and start over.
For me both CS and QoS are both god tier. The problem is Mendes (who is a great director otherwise) decided to make Bond old and past his prime. It was a mistake that really hurt the next two Bond films. However I actually think Bond dying in NTTD makes sense from a narrative standpoint and fit with the central theme of the Craig Bond being a tragic figure.
>CS
Casino Royale?
yeah my bad. Casino Royale.
Counter Strike
>The tone of CS was exactly what the franchise needed at the time. The Brosnan take on Bond was way past its due date.
This is true of Casino Royale, but it worked so well because they went back to the books. They should have STAYED with the Books. Jason Bourne type spies were what was understood to be a real spy in real spy thrillers when Bond was first written in the 50s. we take the tuxedo wearing fine wine spy for granted today, but it was just as much an aberration 70 years ago as it was when Borne hit the theaters
>Jason Bourne
People only make the Bourne comparisons because of the shaky cam in the opening car chase scene of QoS. The rest of QoS has him traveling to exotic locations and opera houses like a good Bond movie is supposed to.
Dr. No (rough but decent attempt)
From Russia With Love
You Only Live Twice
Live and Let Die
For Your Eyes Only
The Living Daylights
Goldeneye
Tomorrow never Dies
None of the Craig films (but you cursed yourself anyway).
The comparison is made based on the action scenes in general (all shaky, quick cut shite)
Please don't procreate
>should've stayed with the books
Casino Royale was the only book that Eon hadn't done yet, except for maybe some of the Moore-era flicks that just lifted the title and a few themes from the books
I don't mean the plots of the books literally, but the books' approach to Bond. The treatment ITT is based on the short story The Hildebrand Rarity despite being like 15 pages long and having no real plot to speak of
>Answers for the top five 'objective' best commonly include
>>From Russia with Love
>>The Spy Who Love Me
>>With On Her Majesty’s Secret Service and Casino Royale also both being common answers albeit ones that are notably contentious in a way the others are not.
This is the objective classic bond thread conensus
this is a great overview and I have very little disagreement with it. I'd like to append some things:
- Thunderball is missing and it may just be my favorite Bond, at least top 5.
- people never talk about Never Say Never Again: a rival company made a Bond movie with the GOAT, yet without the soundtrack (!) and with a script that falls apart about half way through. worth watching the first half for Connery, then falling asleep and dreaming of a satisfying second half. 4/10, still better than every Craig movie.
- Craig (era and actor) apologists exist and they are NUTS. they don't like actual James Bond movies and will only pretend to for the sake of seeming reasonable in arguments.
- Roger Moore is the most underrated Bond. his goofy-psycho era had a fever dream vibe I could only compare to some of Schwarzenegger's work. Live and Let Live is my favorite Moore, it rides the line between slapstick and mature thriller perfectly.
- Brosnan's main flaw was acting cool to the point of being boring. his movies were all solid, including the most underrated Bond movie, Die Another Day. misunderstood on release, mistaken for another Moonraker, it's actually not as outlandish as people thought at the time (especially the plastic surgery subplot), and has some iconic moments.
- Dalton was good but he was given formulaic scripts to work with. somewhat forgettable for me personally.
- Lazenby was most hampered by the script. they tried too hard to "humanize" Bond, dangerously similar to the Craig era. the movie he got was dumb, badly shot at times and badly paced. I wouldn't recommend watching it at all so it's strange that you nominated it for top 5. sorry but that's crazy.
People who hate Roger Moore are basedboys.
Roger Moore was a definition of Chad.
>Tall and handsome
>Never lost his cool
>Fricked Stacies and was a dather figure to them
>Never rebelled against MI6 or M's orders
Connery managed to do all that while being more exciting to watch. Moore is good but he doesn't seem that into it
i recommend- starting with Rodger Moore (all of them).
Skip- Sean Connery most of his films are extremely Low Budget aside from Never say never again.
and skip- Timothy Dalton's second flick is Sucked egg nog.
then watch- all Pierce Brosnan 007's
Bravo, good sir
Thanks
anyone else have the Mandella effect with the nerd girl braces in Moonraker? i sworn she had braces like Jaws?
>Live and Let Live
One of the most interesting Bond films on a conceptual level, what with the whole magic seemingly being real aspect - which, although I personally don't hate it, makes it something many people dislike and therefore a rather poor recommendation for someone trying to get into the franchise. Relatively low-stacks for a Bond film as well, which is either an advantage or disadvantage depending on preference. It is also not a great representation of what Moore's portrayal of Bond subsequently becomes, with the character (likewise in The Man with the Golden Gun) having more in common with Connery's portrayal than what Moore is remembered for.
>Brosnan's main flaw
I would say the main flaw of that era is the films leaned into becoming action films with an action star, with Bond resembling more a black ops one man army as opposed to an assassin/spy. I like the opening hovercraft scene chase scene in Die Another Day but, it would be more at home in a cutscene for Metal Gear Solid than a Bond film.
>I wouldn't recommend watching it at all so it's strange that you nominated it for top 5. sorry but that's crazy.
I personally wouldn't list it in the top 5 however, my intention with that list was to provide a general consensus. Many people do recommend it and as I noted it is contentious.
this
On the topic of Craig Bonds I'd say Spectre is far, far worse than No Time To Die. NTTD is still shit but it at least Rami Malek does an okay job as the villain and Ana de Armas is hot in one scene. It's still more of an action movie than a Bond movie which pretty much all Craig movies are but it isn't boring aside from the first half hour or so.
Spectre on the other hand is just a complete boring drag from start to finish, it even manages to make a car chase dull as dogshit. Waltz as Blofeld just phones it in the whole movie and Batista is completely wasted as a henchman.
>it even manages to make a car chase dull as dogshit.
I had mentioned the same thing earlier in the thread. I think Mendes was just jobbing at that point and only made his second Bond movie because of studio pressure (and probably a big paycheck) from Skyfall being such a smash hit.
>I think Mendes was just jobbing at that point
I honestly wouldn't be surprised. Spectre is without doubt the one Bond movie I never want to watch again, sitting through it was pure suffering.
All the brosnan ones are worth watching even the stupid ones
Connery’s are good
Moore is fun
I’m partial to octopussy and moonraker
Dr. No
Goldfinger
Live and Let Die
The Man with the Golden Gun
The Living Daylights
Goldeneye
Fellas, what's your favourite and least favourite Bond song?
I've gotten really into Living Daylights recently
I always favoured Tomorrow Never Dies, though it may just be nostalgia
I haven't watched TND or World Is Not Enough since release on VHS, are they any good? I rememver not caring for them but I loved Goldeneye and DAD
I find Surrender to be superior https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r40I3TxFM3c
No, it's legitimately good.
Its good, it also had the best theme. God I love those violins.
>Favourite
Not sure if it is my actual favourite but I rank highly You Know My Name (Casino Royale)...
>Least favourite
and I also bring it up for I think the other Craig-era songs of Another Way to Die (Quantum of Solace), Writing's on the Wall (Spectre) and No Time To Die are all especially bad; Skyfall is a good song, although it is one that doesn't do anything for me.
>favorite
For Your Eyes Only by Sheena Easton
>least favorite
Another Way to Die
Favourite is either Nobody Does It Better or Licence to Kill
My least favourite is Writing On The Wall: partly because it's Sam fricking Smith, who's a pretentious unlikeable twat, partly because it robbed us of getting a Radiohead Bond theme, and partly because it's just a really dull song
>Sam fricking Smith, who's a pretentious unlikeable twat, partly because it robbed us of getting a Radiohead Bond theme, and partly because it's just a really dull song
that song was gay as frick. like the rest of the movie. But Radiohead's song is pretty gay too, compared to much better radiohead songs like Man of War
Their Spectre is okay, bit wanky but I feel it's still miles better than Writing's On The Wall
Man of War would absolutely have been the best pick though, and it's fricking stupid that Broccoli turned it down just because it wouldn't qualify them for Best Original Song at the Oscars
Man of War
Shades of Cool (lana del rey)
Vampyre of time and Memory (queens of the stone age)
those would be my top 3 kino picks for preexisting songs
Are you me? I catch myself singing Nobody Does It Better and Licence to Kill regularly around the house. Also Diamonds are Forever, the bass on that one is killer. And Spectre is a gorgeous song, I'm glad it's not forever attached to that shitty movie.
Nobody does it better, just sublime
Start with the living Daylights, then watch the first three Connery movies. I recommend Never Say Never Again over thunderball, frick the haters. Maybe watch George Lazenby, but skip you only live twice and diamonds are forever, they are glorified children's cartoons. Then watch goldeneye
Chronological order anon
Mission Impossible is better
>Mission Impossible is better
If you like soulless Tom Cruise action vehicles i guess. For me they are not even in the same league.
MI may do the things these movies are supposed to do better than the last Bond movies but historically speaking it's just ridiculous to even consider that James Bond doesn't absolutely crash it in every possible way a thousand times. But even Mission Impossible is ending soon and Bond will be unchallenged once more as it's always the case sooner or later. To be honest I can't tell these MI movies apart they blur together. Bond was at least always distinct: this is his Japanese adventure, this is his underwater adventure, this is space adventure. MI are built around that one big stunt that Bond used to have in his pre-credits sequence.
>To be honest I can't tell these MI movies apart they blur together.
Holy mother of god this right here fricking this. All of the scenes start to blend together to where is I try to remember a specific scenes I honestly could not tell you what movie it was from they all blend together. I was honestly going to skip the last one until that kino Cavil trailer came out with him reloading his guns. This newest one I might see it I might not I don't know. They all feel the same to me.
>MI are built around that one big stunt that Bond used to have in his pre-credits sequence.
this
Yeah to me big stunts are like special fx in today's movies. I just don't care anymore and only notice them if they are bad. For me its more about the emotional weight behind whatever is happening although I do love a good action fight scene. (Extraction 2 ftw)
Maybe that's the problem because I don't care any of the James Bonds as people
if the movie is written correctly, less is more and you will appreciate smaller stunts so long as they are GOOD stunts. Sincerity is what is needed most of all
100% true
>Maybe that's the problem because I don't care any of the James Bonds as people
I think they really solved this in NTTD which is its strongest aspect.
The MI films by Chris McQuarrie all blur together massively for me, which means the last three or so have just merged in my mind. But the first three or four are at least distinct enough for me to be able to remember them differently
Dr. No
From Russia With Love
OHMSS
And an honorable mention to Live and Let Die
The rest are cartoony proto-capeshit trash.
>connery
from russia with love
thunderball
>moore
octopussy
>dalton
skip it
>brosnan
every single one of them
on her majestys secret service is only movie starring george lazenby. a good movie, but id suggest you save it for later if you end up watching multiple bond movies. dont start with dalton either, his movies almost dont feel like bond
License to Kill feels the most like book Bond.
Kino
The Spy Who Loved Me (Moore's best film and the best in the franchise)
From Russia With Love (Connery's best)
License to Kill (Dalton's best and also one of the best Bond movies; closest a predecessor to Craig got the character as a violent killer)
You Only Live Twice (amazing Asian-based travelogue)
Live And Let Die
Worst:
Moonraker (garbage minus a great opening action scene)
Thunderball (endless underwater scenes that are terrible; slow as molasses plot)
Diamonds Are Forever
On Her Majesty's Secret Service
Also all of the Brosnan films are terrible. He was a good Bond but his films are all generic 90s action. Play the Goldeneye N64 game for a better experience.
I feel bad for Craig but he was a shitty Bond
Bronsan I felt was the best. He was the most fun to watch even in Die Another Day
But my god the Craig ones are just so dull even the supposed "good" one in Skyfall
And Craig gave zero effort after Casino Royale and it shows
Brosnan is the second best actor to play Bond, but the writing for his movies are some of the worst. He should've gotten Casino Royale.
I wonder how all the Bond girls look now these days
I could write a better Bond film than we've had since Casino Royale, easilyin fact I am right now
Trips are promising.
>set in the 60s
>Kino cold war intrigue heist opening scene
>Aston Martin DB3
>return of cool gadgets
>Jack Brayer as Felix Leiter
>Villain is Jeffrey Epstein (written for Ron Perlman)
>Bond introduces himself by his real name because he's been burned by the KGB already, and admits it to judge the villain's response, pretending to be a turnable agent
>Bond spends time in villain's company and villain reveals plans to him because they are engaged in back and forth mind games to test Bond as Bond deceives and ingratiates himself with the villain, and play games of one-upsmanship against each other
>Villain's plan is a falseflag attack to blame the Russians and start a somali-vs-Ethiopia proxy war to play the US and USSR against each other, using a Soviet secret nerve agent called "Amontillado"
>Bond has to mercy a wounded Felix Leiter and stoically keep his composure going
>the SPECTRE behind everything is a bunch of disillusioned former Nazis who abandon utopianism for vulgar materialism
>cross over with Ian Flemming's Man from UNCLE
>Spetsnaz-marine corps-MI6 joint operation in finale
>Bond gets revenge on Villain with poetic justice
>unrequited feelings for moneypenny
>Based on the books and Connery era, with the story mostly inspired by Flemming's most obscure Bond story, The Hildebrand Rarity
>Bond returns to being delightfully chauvinistic, treats women like children, and smokes up to 60 cigarettes a day
I've already completed the treatment
I read your idea in a thread a while back and I liked it a lot, but I'll say it again; even if you are in a position to actually try and pitch this, the producers won't accept because they're intent on Bond being a present-day film franchise
Tarantino apparently pitched a 60s/50s Bond film and even he got shot down
>Tarantino apparently pitched a 60s/50s Bond film and even he got shot down
to be fair, they also really didn't want Tarantino to add his typical style to the films. I think with the way hollywood is going and reception to spectre vs Skyfall, they might reconsider that approach after a cooling off period
The Lady with the Pancake breasts is the best 007 movie
which one is that?
The name's Bond. Best Bond.
closest to the Bond as written by Fleming, until Craig in CR
>Best
That's not how you spell w-o-r-s-t
TND is essential but it's flawed. it has the best villain by a mile, an interesting plot way ahead of its time, it doesn't drag, but it's got Teri Hatcher.
Never Say Never Again and Die Another Day
How fricked up is your brain if you think Die Another Day is a good one?
I'm pretty sure that is bait
turbo homosexual detected, brosnan bond was fun as hell
Yeah but not Die Another Day. Sure it had Toby Stephens but it wasn't even as good as the World Is Not Enough.
>Never Say Never Again
i will NEVER understand why people hate this movie so much. It's better than thunderball in every way, along with the last several Connery films and most of the Roger Moore films. Thunderball has a terrible pace, terrible choreography, a boring and cliche villain, and awful sets.
NSNA has a better pace, better villain, Fatima blush is an awesome henchmen compared to the previous one, the directing by Irving Kirshner is top notch, along with Bond's fight at the health farm -- vs the super gay sequence where bond is strapped to that exercise equipment and the camera thrusts in and out like a POV of Bond's dickhole. Largo is a far better villain in NSNA, and Bernie Cassey is by far the best Felix Leiter we've ever had. The reason for Bond being at the health farm makes more sense given his age, and resonates well with the send off of Bond and return of Connery. And most importantly, Connery is really giving his all and having fun like putting on an old glove, vs Thunderball, YOLT, DAF where he is clearly bored and just doing it for the paycheck. Connery in NSNA is the most suave and fun having Bond has been since FRWL. The only really bad thing to say about it is that it lacks the gunbarrel sequence and the musical queues, which is a pretty stupid reason to say it's a "bad" film
NSNA is forgettable. Even bad Bond movies are known for their badness. Moonraker is aesthetic and the most beautiful Bond movie despite being surreal.
Spectre is memorable for surpassing Die Another Day level of badness.
>Spectre is memorable for surpassing Die Another Day level of badness.
At least it had pretty good opening
I'm with that movie until they get to Morocco or wherever it is. And of course then it gets worse especially the bloated climax in London. My bottom 5 is 3 Craigs and 2 Brosnans.
So did Die Another Day. I have no provlem with Brosnan going rogue and hunting Zao in Cuba. The movie was still grounded and had all the potential to be a classic Bond.
Once the invisible car and Iceland cave was introduced the movie became shit tier.
Moonraker and For Your Eyes Only both grew in my eyes. I never hated them but still. Moore gets criticized by everyone who don't actually watch the movies.
The space battle alone is something that I don't think has ever been depicted outside of novels (or maybe that recent movie with Brad Pitt?). I mean that kind of space battle that, while unrealistic, is based on real existing space aesthetics of the era.
Because it's not an 'official' Bond movie. I bet a lot of people shitting on it have never seen it and are just lumping it in with the 1967 Casino movie because they "weren't made by Eon"
Tonight Never Dies Tomorrow is my favorite Bond
From Russia with Love, Goldfinger, and Casino Royale are the only ones I'd call "essential."
I like Moonraker
The worst of Moore's (but still good)
oh and best poster of the series
Last time I prefered it over The Spy Who Loved Me. And of course the Venice scenes are the low point of the franchise but the space stuff is great. The movie has a really epic ending. In TSWLM it starts to slow down aft ethe final battle which is strange. Also it has moronic, detante politics.
tall chad wins
It's a good movie, people pretend to hate it because it has some goofy scenes but without them it still has a solid plot, fantastic set pieces, a clever script an excellent villain and john barry on the soundtrack.
The effects are absolutely brilliant and Ken Adam's last work on the series is one of his best, maybe second behind Thunderball's Disco Volante. The space stuff actually saves this movie as wild as it is. It's one of the best sci fi movies of the decade. And it comes with its own "universe" even when Bond is aiming at the capsule they came up with its own original target screen. I liked those small, insignificant details.
My biggest issue with Moonraker is it is just TSWLM reworked and not superior at that. It would not necessarily be an issue in itself but, it is both apparent and almost insulting by how it comes straight after TSWLM. That said, don't get me wrong I don't think it is bad and I basically agree with what you say.
sure the spy who loved me is great. But Moonraker is the spy who loved me in mutherfricking SPACE which automatically makes it better.
And no fraternization with the Soviets. This is something that will always prevent me from considering it the best of the era. Also the tempo in TSWLM just stops suddenly after the battle around the time they need to get through the sealed door and defuse the bomb and I don't know why. In Moonraker the last act is actually the most exciting.
w.t.f. that's not some big take Moonraker is god tier.
>Live and Let Die
>Tomorrow Never Dies
>Die Another Day
>No Time to Die
>SS
For Your Eyes Only
>S
Living Daylights
License to Kill
Spy who Loved Me
On Her Majesty's Secret Service
>A
Connery movies
>B
Casino Royale
Goldeneye
>C
View to Kill
Tomorrow Never Dies
World Is Not Enough
Live & Let Die
Skyfall
>D
Octopussy
Moonraker
Moonraker
Quantum of Solace
No Time to Die
Man with The Golden Gun
>F
Spectre
Die Another Day
People still getting filtered by die another day sad
Just watch 'em all.
It's the easiest option. Some are better, some are worse but it doesn't take much effort (only a litlte bit of time) to watch them all. And starting from the beginning is perfect anyway since the best movies are from the 60s. Between 60s and 80s that's basically where it's at. Later movies only sporadically reached that level.
NTTD is not that bad, you only hate it because of the death scene
I only remember that the beginning is too long and sentimental (in a feminine way) and that they're in Norway and that the ending has some nice operator moments and yes the ending kills it. Bond should nevet commit suicide because of his feefees.
>Bond should nevet commit suicide because of his feefees.
He An Heroed because he knew some supervillain would inevitably use the virus that was in him against his daughter.
I was more annoyed that he ended up dying because of his own mistake (not destroying the blast door controls) and wished they had written it some other way.
I was incredibly drunk watching NTTD, but I assumed when he got injected with not-Foxdie that it was going to either kill anyone who got into contact with him or just Lea Seydoux & his daughter and possibly most of MI6, meaning he effectively didn't have much choice but to an hero.
But yeah leaving the villain the option of closing the doors again was a rookie mistake and fricking stupid writing.
>Bond is emotional like a woman on PMS despite being a ice cold killer
>Still simping for Vesper despite not killing her Algerian boyfriend in QoS and saying he is over for her.
>Showing emotions to a woman
>Ever
>Bond villain do not meet each other except in the end
If I recall in Casino Royale after Vesper died: "The b***h is dead." Daniel Craig is a beta male.
>Daniel Craig is a beta male.
yeah this. he has a a wife and CHILDREN and he is still hung up on oneitis for a one night stand 15 years later. Pathetic
>Spectre is memorable for surpassing Die Another Day level of badness.
that might be true but I don't think it's in a good way. I already thought that Skyfall was spectacularly overrated nostalgia bait with bad writing and ripping off Dark Knight, and then Spectre had to come into existance with the shittiest most fanfiction tier writing I have seen in almost any movie ever
Skyfall should have ended at Parliament House shootout. Scotland part was pure cringe and made no sense.
>Bond refusing any backup from MI6 despite injuring Mallory and M ie enemy to British Government
>British Airforce not detecting Silva's helicopter
>Having a domestic terrorist and henchmen terrorize freely the countryside after a terror attack in London
>Bond's backup of a fleet of helicopters comes stealthily and exactly as bond captures the villain
>hahaha i ackshually meant to get captured exactly like Joker and Loki lolololol
>but what is spy if government have computer? how is babby formed?
>escape plan involves perfectly timed subway train in exactly the right place by coincidence
>lololol I am orphanz XD look it's Hagrid XD member the Aston Martin???! you love it!!
Skyfall is overrated. Like massively. First they gimped bond, then the ENTIRE third act takes place in a single house. The whole Bond Home Alone thing taking place in a single house is not worthy of a megabudget Bond movie. The third act of a Bond movie is supposed to take place in the heart of an active volcano not a single fricking house.
>Mr. White is partially responsible of Vesper's death
>Bond falls in love with his daughter
If this was Dalton era, Dalton would have fricked her out of spite to make Mr. White angry. He would have never considered protecting his bastard child.
>If this was Dalton era, Dalton would have fricked her out of spite to make Mr. White angry. He would have never considered protecting his bastard child.
the books, too.
There was never a need to deconstruct the "ruthless killing machine" Bond, when they could have just gone back to the books where Flemming already had an extremly 3-dimensional character who is deliberately very hard to pin down, dripping with irony, and steeped in self contradiction. It was never right to update Bond from a "Sexist Mysognistic Dinosaur" because he was always that by even the standards of the '50s. Flemming was well aware of that, and did it on purpose because it makes him interesting
>There was never a need to deconstruct the "ruthless killing machine" Bond, when they could have just gone back to the books where Flemming already had an extremly 3-dimensional character who is deliberately very hard to pin down, dripping with irony, and steeped in self contradiction. It was never right to update Bond from a "Sexist Mysognistic Dinosaur" because he was always that by even the standards of the '50s.
BASED Bond Understander
based thing doer mind
I'm doing my best in the treatment of the screenplay i'm writing. love connery, but went back to the books for inspiration. here's some examples
>Bond proceeds to a club in Berlin to report to his supervisor. Unbeknownst to him, his drink has been spiked with LSD, courtesy of the Soviet secret Counterintelligence unit, SMERSH (SMERt SHpionam -- “death to spies”). As Bond begins to trip and hallucinate, the opening credit sequence commences, seamlessly transitioning into a psychedelic display of 60s imagery featuring naked women, wine, and symbols of poison.
>Opening Theme: Shades of Cool, Lana Del Rey
>Bond experiences a harrowing LSD-induced PTSD flashback to his time at Eton College during World War II. He vividly recalls the tragic death of his girlfriend, who he had managed to sneak into the all-boys boarding school. She was killed in front of him by a stray piece of shrapnel when the Eton chapel was bombed by the Luftwaffe. The terrifying memories jolt Bond awake in the MI6 infirmary.
>Early the following morning, Q arrives at Bond's bland and sparsely furnished London flat to brief him for the mission. Bond has limited time, with only three hours until his flight. He dismisses a one-night stand, hastily providing her with cab fare and rushing her out the door.
>Q: “What’s her name, old boy?”
>Bond: “I don’t remember”
>Q: “That’s not very nice of you, James. She remembered yours”
>Bond “That's not very fair of you, Q. She was screaming it all night”
>Bond “Double-O seven, Behave!”
>As Bond quickly prepares breakfast (scrambled eggs with condiments as the only available items in his fridge), Q briefs him on the equipment.
>On their sailboat yacht, Felix jokes that Bond must be jealous of an island with a harem full of women. Bond disagrees, claiming, “You're the Mormon. Nothing else complicates a mission like women. Or children, but I repeat myself”
based
Bingo
fricking this
fleming's bond almost seemed like he hated his job at points and the pussy was the only reason he didn't quit
That's part of the fun
Based book reader
This is also true
Frankly, Bond is at his best when he's somewhat vulnerable. I'm reading Dr No right now and after the centipede scene (it's a tarantula in the book) he goes and throws up after surviving it. And there's a lot said in the first part of the book about how much pain and torture Bond has already gone through in the past 5 or so books. It adds a great layer to his character, that he's not some stone-cold killing machine who fricks all the pretty women like the films basically present him as. Hell, in Casino Royale he tries to quit and run off with Vesper and that's the first fricking book. Fleming's Bond is basically sick of the job from the get-go, but the tragedy is that he's really damn good at it.
>>Bond is emotional like a woman on PMS despite being a ice cold killer
simping for Vesper despite not killing her Algerian boyfriend in QoS and saying he is over for her.
emotions to a woman
>>Ever
>>Bond villain do not meet each other except in the end
>If I recall in Casino Royale after Vesper died: "The b***h is dead." Daniel Craig is a beta male.
That is literally the point of the entire Craig series. Which is kino except for the 'Bond is old and over the hill" trope they kept going back to. But the essence of the series is that Bond has sacrificed everything for Queen and country....literally everything. His heart, his soul, his life. It makes him super heroic in the end. Not a beta male at all.
Wrath of Khan did all of these things without turning the main character into a mopey little b***h or making the film into a dour wet blanket
>Wrath of Khan did all of these things
Star Trek is written like an episodic tv show. Even the movies more or less. There is little emotional baggage carried over from one episode to the next. The red shirts are forgotten like they never existed.
It's okay. Way too long, the villain is dull and underused, the covid reshoots are obvious, and I'm still not sure what to think of Bond dying, but it's also a beautiful-looking film in places, better than even Deakins on Skyfall I'd say, and it's perhaps the only one of Craig's films where they remembered that Bond is meant to be fun escapism. The Cuba section is genuinely great, and it's what the whole film should've been
If I'm ranking Craig's era then it goes:
CR > Skyfall > NTTD >> QoS >>>> Spectre
QoS>CR>NTTD>Skyfall>Spectre
i hated how this was a second time they used a timeskip
I was super hyped for it and I liked it in the moment in the cinema, in particular the opening with the train was a good stinger for the song. What was up with the brick phones at points though?
CR is the only watchable Craig movie, Bond is dead, its not fun, its boring, same shit as Bourne
License to Kill was the Swan Song to Bond franchise, in my opinion.
>1989
>Cold War is dead which Bond franchise has always been about
>Q is a friend and an accomplice
>Reference to Bond being a widow (OHMSS)
>Bond goes rogue and is his darkest point of the series
It might have not have as much success as they wanted but I always liked the movie a lot.
>Bond fricking Sanhez' roastie gf
>Pam forgives Bond for sticking his dick in other women in seconds.
Was Pam a cuck?
Well if anyone would have that kind of power it has to be Bond. Honorable mention to Bond hiding Goodnight in a closet so he can have sex with Miss Anders and after that say to Goodnight that her turn will come.
1. Octopussy
2. Dr. No
3. A View to a Kill
4. Casino Royal
Special mention: Izabella Scorupco
How about a favorite car fellas?
For me it's Aston Martin V8 Vantage from Living Daylights
Either the Lotus Esprit submarine or what you posted.
It's not like there's many other options for best Bond car tbh
I thought it was a coupe
jesus christ zoomers are so doomed. watch every single other james bond movie and never watch a daniel craig bond again
I don't know about cars (I do like Aston Martin though) but I'm listening to the soundtracks again and even though I'm not over I do remember enough to make a list.
1. John Barry (1933-2011) - I would even call him one of the four greatest film composers of all time.
2. Bill Conti (1942-) - His one soundtrack is just that good, unique and bold. As defining as Barry's music is from time to time a different sound in a series is welcome. These movies weren't made on assembly line.
3. George Martin (1926-2016) - Same story as above.
4. David Arnold (1962-) - Honestly it's mostly for his best soundtrack - The World is Not Enough. Otherwise it's a little by the numbers + normal Bond themes with synthesizers.
5. Eric Serra (1959-) - Underwhelming or not his sound is too wonderfully spy-like to hate.
6. Marvin Hamlisch (1944-2012) - Bond 77 is a classic and that's about it. A few tracks are downright misses.
7. Monty Norman (1928-2022) - It's cool that he composed part of something that John Barry later took and made great.
8. Thomas Newman (1955-) - Oh, neat they got a new guy to do the temp music. Good for him.
9. Michael Kamen (1948-2003) - I really don't know what he was thinking. I know he was hired because the movie was like 80s American cop movie but I don't know what he tried to do with this soundtrack.
10. Hans Zimmer (1957-) - He hasn't impressed me in 20 years. Another by the numbers temp music waste of time that only got some melody when he borrowed them from Barry.
You're forgetting Grant kirkhope 😉
Ok regarding Hamlisch obviously Nobody Does It Better is Cool and Ride to Atlantis is the other track that's memorable. The rest is... mostly a lot of brass.
conti was legit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax5scn5KhOY is probably my favorite bond track.
Ranking of Barry's individual scores.
1. Thunderball (most "complete")
2. From Russia With Love (I love how haunting and simple some of the music is like the SPECTRE theme and it also gave us "007 theme")
3. The Living Daylights (proof that he wasn't afraid of doing something completely new, "Necros Attacks" is one of his best ever)
4. Diamonds Are Forever (the music may be the best part of this film)
5. Goldfinger (I'm taking the entire soundtracks into consideration so maybe a few others have "more" but the "Fort Knox Raid" and verious themes with it is seriously perfect)
6. On Her Majesty's Secret Service (his title track is one of his best ever compositions and there are other great ones as well)
7. Moonraker (Barry's space music is perfect, a little lacking in earlier part)
8. A View to a Kill (that final battle unforgettable but in other ways a little too similar to earlier ones and unlike other composers Barry was always able to provide drastically different sounds)
9. You Only Live Twice (very soft for his Bond scores, wonderful space theme, sometimes a little underscored)
10. The Man with the Golden Gun (even he was disappointed but "Scaramanga Fun House" and "Hip's Trip" are a stand our)
11. Octopussy (it's nice like all of his soundtracks but maybe the least memorable, was he out of time?)
for me, it's TND
From Russia with Love
Goldfinger
Thunderball
On Her Majesty's Secret Service
The Spy Who Loved Me
For Your Eyes Only
The Living Daylights
Licence to Kill
Moonraker. Full stop. End of story.
Live and Let Die is pretty much blaxploitation , and it's awesome
I wish Daltongays would all have a convention on a train through the Alps and the train would derail over a cliff and crash into a fiery ball of diesel fuel and molten metal with no survivors.
i just want a moonraker remake with musk or bezos as drax
Bond needs to end not because of weak arguments like "the films only work in the Cold War" or "Britain is irrelevant", Bond needs to end (or at least be left alone for a extended period) because they are going to keep fricking it up on the basics of what makes the franchise work. The "take Bond back to the 50s or 60s" argument want make a real difference, for all they will do is continue to fail on the basics and just dress the whole thing up in a 60s aesthetic.
It's because people notice that after 1989 the movies became different and wonder what's changed. The difference is that by 1989 (or between 1989-1995) Bond was absolutely irrelevant. Kids didn't know what James Bond was or if 1 in 30 heard about him they said it was "from those movies that dad likes". So GoldenEye was hip and cool and I like this movie but it did become somewhat remodelled in the uniform Hollywood action blockbuster style.
Im Gen-X. Came into Bond in the peak Spy Who Loved Me/Moonraker days as a pre-teen in the back seat at the drive in. God those movies were based. Then Dalton came and me and my high school bros in the 80's were actually excited for an edgeir take on Bond and Dalton looked cool in the poster behind the wheel of his Aston Martin. Then the movies came out and they were TURBO meh. Not good at all. They sucked all the life out of the frachise. Dalton was the 2nd choice by the studio at the time because Brosnan didn't feel he was old enough or mature enough to play the part yet after Remington Steele and turned it down. But then after the two Dalton duds almost killed the franchise Brosnan felt he was finally ready to move into the part and the rest is history. The guy was born to play Bond.
Ironically enough though Craig is my #1 Bond with Moore as my #2. Craig actually pulled off that edgier Bond we thought we were going to get with Dalton but ended up being corny and cringe. Which is crazy because Dalton is actually based as an actor (he killed it in Flash Gordon) He just never got it as Bond. Brosnan even said as much in interviews without naming names.
Thunderball is my favourite, just got a lot of classic bond tropes, but I like the island stating. Largo is a bit underrated. Best bond woman? Jane Seymour of course.
Anyone ever get the bond magazine as a kid, came out around 2003 ill guess. Dad used to bring me to get it and a pick N mix ever fortnight when it was out.
You forgot Jonathan Pryce chewing the scenery
I rewatched TND recently and Jonathan Pryce was clearly having fun with that role, he's a great villain.
he was such a piece of shit, it was amazing.
Talk of Moonraker
Any of the Connery ones, but From Russia With Love is the quintessential Cold War caper.
It became my favorite edging out Goldfinger after the most recent marathon. To be honest soon after NTTD, while I never stopped being a fan, I entered my lull as I focused on other things but now I feel I'm ready to go back. Kerim best ally that's for sure. The music is one of Barry's best (it's almost impossible to rank them all as too many can be at the top) but Bond Theme with Bongos is maybe the best version of the theme.
Agree with pretty much everything.
>The music is one of Barry's best
For me, it's 007 Takes the Lektor. It's so good that the Neon Genesis Evangelion soundtrack ripped it off
Thats octopussy
From Russia With Love
Goldfinger
Dr. No
The Spy Who Loved Me
The two Dalton films
On Her Majesty's Secret Service
Goldeneye
For Your Eyes Only
It's almost unbeliavable how much scriptwriting has degraded. I know peak roger moore and christopher lee are hard to beat, but craig's bond is a borderline moronic henchman by comparison, and that's not because of the actor.
>It's almost unbeliavable how much scriptwriting has degraded.
What do you think of this?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zWm0eDWN49u_0gAdsnuvIC4jME-S27uRBL6DdAm-PmM/edit?usp=sharing
>5. Goldfinger
Goldfinger is a PERFECTLY scored film. Absolute perfection, alongside Star Wars, LotR, and Raiders
Maybe. I thought about it. Goldfinger Instrumental although I don't think it's in the movie on the soundtrack is amazing.
It's a toss up. Maybe I could move it up. TLD is maybe less unique, while Barry was always at his best with orchestral soundtracks. Fort Knox Raid is truly one of his top 5 tracks.
>. Fort Knox Raid is truly one of his top 5 tracks.
This one of the two things that really makes the score exception
First is the Death of Solo. It's one of the only Bond film scores that delves into leitmotiffe.
Bond thinks he's outsmarted Goldfinger via the tracking device and note in Solo's pocket. It's his move, so as 006 and his American counterpart begin tailing Oddjob, the music starts with Bond's theme, building tension.
But then the music switches to Goldfinger's theme. Goldfinger is a perfect villain. Even his fatness is essential to his character. He's not just a sore loser, he can't even stand the idea of anyone else being successful too. Goldfinger was always in control, and has played Bond for a fool.
They pull over and the music slows, for suspense. Then Oddjob plugs solo with a single slug to chest. realization sets in, and Goldfinger's theme explodes the speakers. He won. And oddjob just has this perfectly restrained shiteating smug expression. Then the music stops, a perfect decision, as the car is brutually and coldly crushed with solo inside.
The raid on fort knox track is also perfect. Normally as the villain is about to succeed, the music become omonious. or if it's a scene of violence, becomes a heartpounding attack of strings and drums. But that would be generic. Instead the music is utterly bombastic and celebratory. Goldfinger is about to win the fricking superbowl, and he knows it
>Essential Bond
You watch them all you fricking pleb. There is no essential bind all of them are fricking kino. Even the James Bond Jr. Animated series. What the frick is wrong with you?!
A View To A Kill
(OP)
Start with peak Moore. The spy Who Loved Me/Moonraker/For Your Eyes Only make a good trilogy.
Then jump to the Craig movies for a nice change of pace from the campier Moore and Brosnan movies. Skip the Dalton ones. They're bad and bring nothing to the table.
Here's a hot take. The Jack White + Alicia Keys theme song for QoS is my all time favorite Bond opening theme song to go along with QoS being my all time favorite Bond movie.
The only Bond's I haven't watched have been Moore and Lazenby tbh
You are missing out on Moore. At least the peak middle ones.
My favorite Pierce one is Die Another Day, shit is Kino when high as frick.
>My favorite Pierce one is Die Another Day, shit is Kino when high as frick.
when you're stoned off your ass, is it as kino as the Xmen Origins: Wolverine leaked workprint?
It's slightly less kino than wolverine
If I could pick only one from each Bond it would be
>Goldfinger
>On Her Majesty's Secret Service (yes it's the only Lazenby one but it's great)
>A View To A Kill (people shit on it but Walken is one of the most memorable villians in all of the movies)
>Both Dalton movies
>Tomorrow Never Dies
>Casino Royale
>On Her Majesty's Secret Service (yes it's the only Lazenby one but it's great)
Diamonds Are Forever deserved to have been a lazenby film and I'd pay to deepfake Lazenby and the original blofeld to into it
What the frick is this contraption?
>What the frick is this contraption?
a good time
Torture device that slowly screws a peg into your spine and breaks it.
For me it's
>1. From Russia With Love
>2. Casino Royale
>3. The Living Daylights
>4. Goldfinger
>5. Octopussy (yes really)
>6. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
>7. Goldeneye
>8. You Only Live Twice
>9. The Man With The Golden Gun (yes really)
>10. Tomorrow Never Dies
>11. Licence to Kill
>12. The Spy Who Loved Me
>13. Skyfall
>14. Dr. No
>15. The World is not Enough
>16. Diamonds are Forever
And that's about the end of the ones I like. I suppose a few unpopular opinions would be that I don't hate Quantum due in large part to its much shorter runtime. I find all the Craig movies watchable but Quantum, Spectre, and NTTD aren't enjoyable in the same way anything I rank above them is. Thunderball filtered me, I guess. A boring, tepid follow-up to Goldfinger where everyone pretend like the don't know what everyone else is up to for over an hour of the film's runtime. I honestly think For Your Eyes Only kind of sucks.
>Dr. No after Skyfall
You are literally insane (yes really), gay!
I'm not going to pretend like I'd rather sit down and watch Dr. No over something as slickly produced as Skyfall, despite the latter's many failings in its script.
Best 007 song coming through. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI7KxEerCYo&pp=ygUWdGhlIHdvcmxkIGlzIG5vdCBlb3VnaA%3D%3D
it's pretty fricking good
Goldfinger, on her majesties secret service, living daylights, license to kill, and goldeneye are my top five
Start at the beginning or don’t bother at all
Living Daylights is the best bond film for someone whose never seen a bond film before
Just watch them all you stupid homosexual
You can start pretty much wherever
>but the interconnected stories!!1
Yeah, these are not complex movies and most if not all of them are made with a formula. Less than a handful try to deviate, with varying degrees of success
just watch all of them. Only then can you fully participate in our discussions.
For real though, none of them are actually terrible.
>none of them are actually terrible
except spectre
whichever one they make James Bond cry and do this mock effort at being "deep" is the worst one, and that might be the last one or two, you can stop at Casino Royale if you want, I do
Just watch them all, in any order, don't be a pussy.
This is one of the best ones and complete gays will say it's not, it's a proper weird 80s one.
Actually excellent, better than thunderball in every way. Frick the haters
They should have done gray haired 90s Bond, they could have even done a stupid crossover movie with Pierce and it would have been great.
I watched only Casino Royal and it was painfully boring but considered the best by fans.
>fans
Those aren’t fans, they’re homosexuals, anon.
From Russia With Love is the best one. Gold finger is good too. Any of the Connery ones are entertaining. Always had a soft spot for View to a Kill, even though it’s one of the worst.
The GOAT.
None. Bond movies are just capeshit for boomers. Spies are the original superheroes (secret identities, ridiculous gadgets). You know it to be true. If Daniel Craig had appeared in a Marvel movie as Bond he would've fit like my bond burger in your sister last night
>I've never seen a non Daniel Craig bond
Then you haven't seen bond. Craig Bond is Bond for people who don't like Bond
I fricking hate James Bond, and I fricking hate Daniel Craig. And Knives Out is fricking trash.
Hate, hate, hate. It's not healthy to hold all that hate.
I am not holding anything, I own it. Holding things you hate back is unhealthy, you should try owning expressing your emotions some day.