There was a rumor, confirmed by both Sylvester and Arnold, that Schwarzenegger tricked Sly's agent into making terrible movies (because they were always competing for similar roles) making him think that he was going to be on something similar or that if Sly didn't take the role Arnold was going to get it.
They never explicitly said which ones those were but I'm 100% sure Cobra was one of them.
I don't think you can really argue that Arnold wasn't the bigger star in the 80s. In the 90s they both were experiencing similar levels of hits and misses. In the modern era though, Stallone actually managed to star in and produce quite a few successful geezer sequels and the Expendables franchise. Arnold, unfortunately, never saw his acting career bounce back after his stint into politics. He's starred in a few okayish moives that weren't all that hot at the box office, and he's had not one but two failed attempts at Terminator geezer sequels. I don't think audiences will ever accept the idea that there can be a geriatric Terminator. Terminators are machines, for them, mortality is being shut off. Even if we buy the idea that their flesh and blood ages (which in other Terminator media like the TV show, it was shown that their skin doesn't age), the way arnold moved it was so obvious that he was getting old that it just felt stupid seeing him like that.
Hell, Terminator 3, for all its faults, knew how important it was for Arnold to look exactly like he did in Terminator 2. Arnold actually got himself to the exact same measurements he had in T2. And yet, even though he still had it, they used some digital de-aging effects on him in the movie and didn't tell anyone, because the concept of Terminators being ageless felt appropriate, and gave the films a sense of continuity. Likewise, they fully recreated 1980s Arnold for the T-800 scene in Terminator Salvation, further giving the illusion that the Terminator is a machine and doesn't age. Throwing that idea out the window and doing geezer sequels really cheapened the movie magic of the T-800 character.
Arnold peaked in 1991 with T2. 'True Lies' was already a repetition of a formula. 'Demolition Man' (1994) , wasn't as big as it is today. Both of them were struggling to remain relevant in the nineties. Seagal, Van Damme, Dolph had already drowned. Before the internet, nobody gave a shit about Chuck Norris. Internet gave Shwarzenegger and Stallone a second breath, but in the nineties, they were by and large, irrelevant.
>self parody / satire kind of way like Commando
when did this moronic revisionism start that Commando is some sort of satire or parody. are people that insecure about admitting they enjoy a sincere bombastic action movie so they have to make this kind of stuff up?
I don't think Commando is a parody I just think it's not that good. There are plenty of other action movies that are better quintessential 80s action movies, Commando was just very mid fr fr
Italians do, mutts just forgot about it and try to play funny while the world sees behind their constant veil of ignorance
The joke was that he used the office scissors, not that he used scissors in the first place
>Commando is the weakest of the Prime Arnold movies
It's extremely goofy, but it certainly isn't the weakest Prime Arnold movie, which is 100% pic related
There was a rumor, confirmed by both Sylvester and Arnold, that Schwarzenegger tricked Sly's agent into making terrible movies (because they were always competing for similar roles) making him think that he was going to be on something similar or that if Sly didn't take the role Arnold was going to get it.
They never explicitly said which ones those were but I'm 100% sure Cobra was one of them.
>Schwarzenegger tricked Sly's agent into making terrible movies
Did he "trick" Sly by actually making terrible movies, because the laughably bad Raw Deal came out in 1986 as well, and it makes Cobra look like Citizen Kane
It's trash, the only good scene is when he cuts the pizza with scissors
I always cut pizza with scissors since watching Cobra.
I call it Cobra-style pizza.
How else are you gonna cut pizza for one?
Nas said it in a lyric so it must be good
>I'm like sly stone in cobra
I took a shit on a newborn baby in 2008.
There was a rumor, confirmed by both Sylvester and Arnold, that Schwarzenegger tricked Sly's agent into making terrible movies (because they were always competing for similar roles) making him think that he was going to be on something similar or that if Sly didn't take the role Arnold was going to get it.
They never explicitly said which ones those were but I'm 100% sure Cobra was one of them.
The story is usually about "Stop or my mom will shoot"
I don't think you can really argue that Arnold wasn't the bigger star in the 80s. In the 90s they both were experiencing similar levels of hits and misses. In the modern era though, Stallone actually managed to star in and produce quite a few successful geezer sequels and the Expendables franchise. Arnold, unfortunately, never saw his acting career bounce back after his stint into politics. He's starred in a few okayish moives that weren't all that hot at the box office, and he's had not one but two failed attempts at Terminator geezer sequels. I don't think audiences will ever accept the idea that there can be a geriatric Terminator. Terminators are machines, for them, mortality is being shut off. Even if we buy the idea that their flesh and blood ages (which in other Terminator media like the TV show, it was shown that their skin doesn't age), the way arnold moved it was so obvious that he was getting old that it just felt stupid seeing him like that.
Hell, Terminator 3, for all its faults, knew how important it was for Arnold to look exactly like he did in Terminator 2. Arnold actually got himself to the exact same measurements he had in T2. And yet, even though he still had it, they used some digital de-aging effects on him in the movie and didn't tell anyone, because the concept of Terminators being ageless felt appropriate, and gave the films a sense of continuity. Likewise, they fully recreated 1980s Arnold for the T-800 scene in Terminator Salvation, further giving the illusion that the Terminator is a machine and doesn't age. Throwing that idea out the window and doing geezer sequels really cheapened the movie magic of the T-800 character.
Arnold peaked in 1991 with T2. 'True Lies' was already a repetition of a formula. 'Demolition Man' (1994) , wasn't as big as it is today. Both of them were struggling to remain relevant in the nineties. Seagal, Van Damme, Dolph had already drowned. Before the internet, nobody gave a shit about Chuck Norris. Internet gave Shwarzenegger and Stallone a second breath, but in the nineties, they were by and large, irrelevant.
So yeah, they are eighties action heroes,
80's not 90's
I like that two guys can take the piss out of each other that much and still be friends.
You know what movie fricking sucked that sly was in, that prison one where he fixes the car, I can't think of many movies that are as bad
Tango and Cash?
>Lock Up (1989)
Oh it's great, the Dirty Harry of the 1980s. Bonus points for Jatimatic
Why don't you spend the whopping 85 mins it takes to watch it and find out.
>self parody / satire kind of way like Commando
when did this moronic revisionism start that Commando is some sort of satire or parody. are people that insecure about admitting they enjoy a sincere bombastic action movie so they have to make this kind of stuff up?
>are people that insecure about admitting they enjoy a sincere bombastic action movie?
Yes, that's why we can't have nice things
I don't think Commando is a parody I just think it's not that good. There are plenty of other action movies that are better quintessential 80s action movies, Commando was just very mid fr fr
It's just a Dirty Harry type movie starring Stallone instead. Don't think too hard about it.
Cobra is fun in a cheesy action movie kinda way.
he cuts a slice of pizza with a pair of scissors
Italians do, mutts just forgot about it and try to play funny while the world sees behind their constant veil of ignorance
The joke was that he used the office scissors, not that he used scissors in the first place
>self parody / satire kind of way like Commando?
homie wat
I liked when he made fun of the girl for putting too much ketchup on her fries. Ketchup is for babies.
It's fun, standard 80's action cop stuff. Stallone's ego is off the charts on this one though, I never found him as likeable as Arnold.
Stallone is more like the every man version of a suped up action hero than Arnold is, and that's what makes him charming. They perform different roles
Might just be me but I feel like the plotline is feeding off of the Nightstalker crimes that happened a few years earlier.
>Might just be me but I feel like the plotline is feeding off of the Nightstalker crimes that happened a few years earlier.
Are you legitimately moronic? They directly reference it, the main villain's name is NIGHT SLASHER
>Commando
>parody
Wat
> Is it good in a self parody / satire kind of way like Commando?
Commando wasn't a parody, and Cobra is a better paced/directed film with a better villain
it has some nice cinematography
but the story and plot and acting are ass
this was at the peak of stalone being up himself
Commando is the weakest of the Prime Arnold movies
Though it’s still pretty enjoyable
>Commando is the weakest of the Prime Arnold movies
It's extremely goofy, but it certainly isn't the weakest Prime Arnold movie, which is 100% pic related
>Schwarzenegger tricked Sly's agent into making terrible movies
Did he "trick" Sly by actually making terrible movies, because the laughably bad Raw Deal came out in 1986 as well, and it makes Cobra look like Citizen Kane
https://youtu.be/32sLgUoj91o The frick do you think?
It's kino.
1986 is the year half of all 80s movie came out.