Truth be told, he's still one of my favorite artists, despite the grooming. I'm tempted to say the "animation community" has a K Derangement Syndrome and it's pathetic to watch.
Also, "separating the art from the artist" is chickenshit, mealy-mouth, weasely garbage and is practically impossible.
>you shouldn't be mad about him molesting children or you're DERANGED >you CAN'T separate art from artists FRICK YOU FOR SAYING THAT
What the frick kind of point are you even trying you make you ape?
1. Didn't say that. Be as mad as you want. Just expect pushback for it, just as I get pushback for not hating John K.
2. Didn't say that, either. You can try to separate the art from the artist all you want. I just think that sentiment's moronic.
I hope you understood what I just say, you ape.
It's actually worse. This man is in hindsight unironically responsible for setting animation even way more back than it was back in the 80s by how much of a frick-up he was. But no one seems to acknowledge how much John's faults hurt the industry.
John K set the industry back because his perfectionism ruined any and all productions he's been on. Man can't handle having a single flaw make it to air which is why he got booted of Ren and Stimpy twice.
Aight you queer, keep trying to send your brain even deeper into the toilet with nonsense
John K set the industry back because his perfectionism ruined any and all productions he's been on. Man can't handle having a single flaw make it to air which is why he got booted of Ren and Stimpy twice.
Have you actually watched the games episodes? They are ugly garbage. They don't get to complain unless they can make beauty without John whipping them. Frick people like Spumdonor who cry for those demented overgrown children like Bob Camp, who actually abused kids with his cartoons.
>Outed as a groomer
OK I have no idea what this is about but I'm gonna go ahead and bet it was either a "she regretted it a day later", or a "SHE WAS ONLY 17 YEARS AND 354 DAYS OLD YOU SICKO!" situation
Well, the situation was that he took Katie Rice and Robyn Bird as apprentices at 15 but also had inappropriate relationships with them confirmed by all three parties. People say he had sex with them, but that's not true.
Even still, I think the internet has too much KDS.
It was the 90's. They just kinda let kids get molested back then. It was a little better than the 80's. Anyone who was a kid back in the 80's got molested at least twice.
>People say he had sex with them, but that's not true.
How do you know that? I find it hard to believe that a guy willing to have a self-admitted "inappropriate" relationship with minors is stopping himself short of sex no matter what he claims. What does "inappropriate" even mean here?
Shout out to John for teaching me about drawing monsters even though nobody noticed that part
I see we have an animation student trying to show off his worthless degree
1. The show isn't Rick and Morty, the visuals are part of the humor and other content like illustrating friendship Dynamics
2. You mean copycats like SpongeBob? I'm guessing that you will deny that SpongeBob is a spumco style show
3. He was a creator, director and revolutionary, which are all higher positions than animator
>Everything he says is wrong
"Le ontologically wrong" you say in your LA career making cartoons nobody gives a shit about. Blowing yourself is the only thing you get out of being in animation
"Sex" meaning having normal social interactions instead of extruding teenagers down grooming pipelines like politics or gender.
You're threatened by John because he uplifted kids and teenagers as humans, not material to be molded by Society. Since to you they are just grooming receptacles, you want to taint anybody who treats them normally the same as you. You don't care about you yourself molesting kids or other people like you.
Messaging people in the industry because you won't have that conversation you queer.
No one gives a shit about what he said or even really what he did. Ultimately the problem is he can't deliver on time to save his life. It's a business, he couldn't provide the business with what it needed, so he's worthless. You can screech about your philosophy on "true" animation all you want as long as you can turn your work in on schedule.
That's sexual harassment, homosexual, so I'm going to make an about gayness.
Remember, when people in the industry cry and tantrum that I message them, you were responsible
That doesn't make any sense as a response you moronic manchild. I don't support queers or society's attitude towards kids. you just want to project the problems of your industry on to anybody else, proving my point
>I invented that phrase on this board you tool
Sure you did, kiddo. I have to say "people who oppose sex with children are the real pedos" is an interesting angle, though.
>Thinks he's safe and secure as a child predator behind his cultural shield
That's why I'm messaging the industry to break your culture, moron
I disagree with the narrative that "John K set the industry back" though, Ren and Stimpy's initial success is part of why there was a big boom of creator driven cartoons in the 90s/00s, the reason things have declined so much into 80s tier standards is because executives are morons who don't understand why things work and old habits die hard.
The industry has reverted back to what Bakshi complained about when people viewed Disney as god in animation. You basically need more Bakshi types who are willing to take a risk and tell actual stories. As technically it was Bakshi that broke the 80s tier standard mold and it was from Mighty Mouse that many of the great tv cartoons came about. Even John K admitted to that, without Bakshi you don't have Ren and Stimpy.
I really don't give a shit about the guy. Never did. Don't understand the kvetching. I just love me some Ren & Stimpy, and love me some Spumco girls. Simple as.
Truth be told, he's still one of my favorite artists, despite the grooming. I'm tempted to say the "animation community" has a K Derangement Syndrome and it's pathetic to watch.
Also, "separating the art from the artist" is chickenshit, mealy-mouth, weasely garbage and is practically impossible.
>you shouldn't be mad about him molesting children or you're DERANGED
>you CAN'T separate art from artists FRICK YOU FOR SAYING THAT
What the frick kind of point are you even trying you make you ape?
1. Didn't say that. Be as mad as you want. Just expect pushback for it, just as I get pushback for not hating John K.
2. Didn't say that, either. You can try to separate the art from the artist all you want. I just think that sentiment's moronic.
I hope you understood what I just say, you ape.
You're a pedophile, got it.
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
No, knowing pedophiles like you are out in the world walking around free doesn't provide much comfort.
Okay. Do something about it, b***h!
Would that I could. All I can do is earnestly urge you to commit suicide before you harm any children, or harm anymore children, as the case may be.
Nah, you're b***h made.
It's actually worse. This man is in hindsight unironically responsible for setting animation even way more back than it was back in the 80s by how much of a frick-up he was. But no one seems to acknowledge how much John's faults hurt the industry.
All he did was make cartoons more expressive, is that a crime?
Elaborate?
John K set the industry back because his perfectionism ruined any and all productions he's been on. Man can't handle having a single flaw make it to air which is why he got booted of Ren and Stimpy twice.
Aight you queer, keep trying to send your brain even deeper into the toilet with nonsense
Have you actually watched the games episodes? They are ugly garbage. They don't get to complain unless they can make beauty without John whipping them. Frick people like Spumdonor who cry for those demented overgrown children like Bob Camp, who actually abused kids with his cartoons.
John K's perfectionism did lead to great stuff yes, but constantly missing deadlines is going to get you on everyone's bad side regardless of results.
>as a groomer
SO nothing then
>groomer
She was only 25 you SICK FRICK!
Yes it does
If he is mentally unwell enough to want to groom minors then he is a moron who shouldn't be taken seriously in any matters
>Outed as a groomer
OK I have no idea what this is about but I'm gonna go ahead and bet it was either a "she regretted it a day later", or a "SHE WAS ONLY 17 YEARS AND 354 DAYS OLD YOU SICKO!" situation
Well, the situation was that he took Katie Rice and Robyn Bird as apprentices at 15 but also had inappropriate relationships with them confirmed by all three parties. People say he had sex with them, but that's not true.
Even still, I think the internet has too much KDS.
I see
Do these children just not have parents?
It was the 90's. They just kinda let kids get molested back then. It was a little better than the 80's. Anyone who was a kid back in the 80's got molested at least twice.
>People say he had sex with them, but that's not true.
How do you know that? I find it hard to believe that a guy willing to have a self-admitted "inappropriate" relationship with minors is stopping himself short of sex no matter what he claims. What does "inappropriate" even mean here?
Is it me or are people becoming more and more skeptical of grooming allegations? Russell Brand has a lot of people defending him.
Brand isn't accused of grooming. Or, maybe he is, but he's also been accused of sexual assault by a number of adult women.
His show had a grand total of three decent jokes. He's a shitty writer.
His design is so abhorrent most copycats are straight-up created by him.
He's a shitty designer.
He has no idea how to ease his animation and 9 out of 10 movements are in straight lines.
He's a shitty animator.
Everything he says is wrong and he has never created anything of value. The world would be a better place if he was never born.
Shout out to John for teaching me about drawing monsters even though nobody noticed that part
I see we have an animation student trying to show off his worthless degree
1. The show isn't Rick and Morty, the visuals are part of the humor and other content like illustrating friendship Dynamics
2. You mean copycats like SpongeBob? I'm guessing that you will deny that SpongeBob is a spumco style show
3. He was a creator, director and revolutionary, which are all higher positions than animator
>Everything he says is wrong
"Le ontologically wrong" you say in your LA career making cartoons nobody gives a shit about. Blowing yourself is the only thing you get out of being in animation
>Check thread
>"WAAAAAAAH JOHN K DIDN'T GROOM A 16 YEAR OLD GIRL WAAAAAAH"
>"WAAAAAAAH YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HIS GREATNESS WAAAAAAAH"
You are a closeted homesexual and have a secret desire to be raped by John K
You moronic Black person. Nobody said he didn't.
This guy
is basically denying it, you homosexual
>He's a shitty writer.
According to him cartoons don't need "writers".
pos
>doesn't mean that anything he said was wrong.
No one gives a shit about what he said or even really what he did. Ultimately the problem is he can't deliver on time to save his life. It's a business, he couldn't provide the business with what it needed, so he's worthless. You can screech about your philosophy on "true" animation all you want as long as you can turn your work in on schedule.
Lot of filtered posts in this thread.
That's sexual harassment, homosexual, so I'm going to make an about gayness.
Remember, when people in the industry cry and tantrum that I message them, you were responsible
That doesn't make any sense as a response you moronic manchild. I don't support queers or society's attitude towards kids. you just want to project the problems of your industry on to anybody else, proving my point
>Thinks he's safe and secure as a child predator behind his cultural shield
That's why I'm messaging the industry to break your culture, moron
I disagree with the narrative that "John K set the industry back" though, Ren and Stimpy's initial success is part of why there was a big boom of creator driven cartoons in the 90s/00s, the reason things have declined so much into 80s tier standards is because executives are morons who don't understand why things work and old habits die hard.
The industry has reverted back to what Bakshi complained about when people viewed Disney as god in animation. You basically need more Bakshi types who are willing to take a risk and tell actual stories. As technically it was Bakshi that broke the 80s tier standard mold and it was from Mighty Mouse that many of the great tv cartoons came about. Even John K admitted to that, without Bakshi you don't have Ren and Stimpy.
yep
but this is a neoliberal capitalist world and opinions are weighed by your worth in society not by the merits of your work
wake the frick up homosexual
we live in hell on earth
I really don't give a shit about the guy. Never did. Don't understand the kvetching. I just love me some Ren & Stimpy, and love me some Spumco girls. Simple as.