My university just had a pre-screening of the newest kung fu panda movie, and I just wanted to share my thoughts. I knew going in that it was likely just a massive cash-grab, and hardly even glanced at the trailer, but I still couldn't help myself from having some marginal expectations. The movie was such a massive downgrade from the previous entries, and I think it's especially clear dreamworks just phoned it in. The entire movie feels like "tell, don't show" and one scene jumps to the next with near instant conflict resolutions throughout.
The character assassination (flanderization) of Po and Shifu was terrible, and the movie seemed to completely erase any development the characters went through in the first few films. Po was made out to be a massive, unreliable moron, Shifu rendered just a naggy gag, and the new fox girl's personality, motivations, and development entirely at odds with her supposed upbringing. It genuinely felt like I was watching a 90 minute mobile game ad. The villain is entirely non-threatening. The furious five is not present whatsoever (bar the credits, with ZERO voice acting). The entire movie is full of Marvel one-liners and quips. Tai Lung is shoved in for "nostalgia" and is nothing like his character in the first movie. The animation looks weirdly off and non-cinematic, and as a whole, feels like fodder for tiktok clips. There were a couple of visual gags that made me laugh.
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Ouch.
Sounds like shit, but that's what I'd expect from modern Hollywood.
>Shifu
Given that clip where he was jealous of Po, I thought he and Tai Lung were gonna set aside their jealousy and find comfort in having each other back. Guess not.
>villain not threatening
I heard that one from someone else, apparently the film feels like it has no stakes, which is weird since the villain sounds OP as shit.
>Tai Lung OOC
Heard that one too, apparently he's too nice?
Shifu and Tai Lung have no contact with each other in the movie. Shifu is again relegated to sitting in the background to berate Po who is portrayed to have learned nothing over the years
The villain is a definitively worse Shen, with a ridiculously stupid motivation for her "evil," which is demonstrated in the movie by nudging one of her lackeys down a set of stairs. She's also made to be a gag character with asinine quips, often ruining the mood.
Tai Lung damn near seems to respect Po in the movie, and all of the resurrected villains want nothing but to return to the spirit world or whatever. I would've personally expected Tai Lung to immediately try and wreak havoc upon his forced return, but he also played along with the villain's dialogue for a bit.
>Shifu and Tai Lung don't meet
It's kind of amazing how all the fan theories (Shifu dies & Tai Lung takes his place, Po stays the Dragon Warrior, etc.) all sound more interesting than the final film.
>Shifu nags dumbass Po
That was a bit of a quibble I had with some of the other flicks (mainly the part of KFP2 where Shifu calls the day he took Po as a student "the worst day of my life"), but I did get the sense that Shifu had more respect for Po in KFP3.
>villain is a worse Shen with a dumb motive
I heard that too, she's just mad that she's small. Fricking lame.
>resurrected villains wanna return to the Spirit World
Laaaaaaaame. Kai especially would just wanna wreck shit; that motherfricker didn't learn after being dead for centuries.
>Tai Lung plays along with Chameleon's dialogue
How so? She rants and raves and he agrees with her or humors her?
Yeah, missed opportunity there. Overall, I'd have preferred they didn't pull the bring dead characters back shtick. Maybe if they executed better.
>resurrected villains
Tai Lung is the only one to have voice lines, besides some literal who crocodile named Scott. Very minimal presence in the movie.
In retrospect, so much of the film feels like it's just retreading the exact same old ground but even worse.
After being pulled from the spirit world, Tai Lung gets a little monologue from the Chameleon about how she wants him to teach her his techniques. He has a really mild reaction, and again, seems really collected for having made it back to the real world on a whim. His fight with her ends after like a half minute when she uses her tongue move to just take his power on contact with him. She proceeds to literally farm every other spirit world antagonist off screen. With the kung fu powers she gets, she decides to become some generic chimera abomination that has nothing to do with kung fu.
>preferred they didn't pull the bring dead characters back shtick.
I mean, it sounds like they did jack shit with them. From what I hear none of them even stick around.
>Scott
Real Chinese-sounding name, there.
>Chameleon wants Tai Lung to teach her
I'm guessing she's just using that to get him to lower his guard, or does he refuse and that's why they fight?
>Tai Lung nonplussed
That is really fricking bizarre. Tai Lung was a fricking rage-monster in the first film, he'd never take something like that lightly.
>Chameleon farms the other baddies offscreen
So the whole "stealing the villains' power" shit is over after about one scene? They hyped that up as her whole plan in the trailer, and it's just a power-succ montage? Holy shit that's lame.
>chimera with nothing to do with kung-fu
That's been my biggest complaint with these movies. None of the new villains has fight scenes on par with Tai Lung.
Yep, jack shit.
She asks for him to teach her because that's part of her motivation: she wanted to be great at kung fu. This ties in with the "she was too small and was made fun of for wanting to be a kung fu master." She says that as a metaphor/prelude to just absorbing the techniques from him.
I also thought it would be more in character for Tai Lung to just start beating the shit out of anyone and everyone nearby to get what he wants. I'd picture that as getting revenge on Po and/or Shifu, a second chance to reclaim the dragon warrior throne.
Chameleon's presence is pretty small throughout, and yes stealing the powers comes at the very last 20 minutes.
That's a really fair complaint. I think 2 barely edges out 1 in my book, but I really wish the final duel between Shen and Po was fleshed out more than just 30 seconds, particularly to be more climactic. Shen kinda just gets flattened by a cannon without much resistance on his part. Both him and Tai Lung have influential presences in their respective films, intimidating in their own rights. I genuinely don't remember much from 3.
>"she was too small and was made fun of for wanting to be a kung fu master."
Guess she (and the writers) never heard of Mantis.
>She says that as a metaphor/prelude to just absorbing the techniques form him
I want to ask, can she only take powers from the spirits? I heard somebody say that she doesn't do it to Po for some reason.
>the power-theft is in the last 20 minutes
Huh. I'd heard that Tai Lung only appeared at the end, guess I was right.
>2 vs 1
I like them both quite a bit, but I agree that Shen should have had a better final fight. He was the one major blade-user in the series and it would've been awesome to see more of him.
So true
From what it seems, it does look like she can only take the spirits' powers. She shapeshifts into Po but doesn't use the technique stealing thing. I don't think Po really showcases any of his "techniques" either besides the very end after she's defeated.
Most in the audience did cheer, although a big portion were internationals/ESLs and the others just families with their kids (there was a little promotional kung fu demonstration by a local org)
For sure check out the movie on your own, I'm just autistic about it because KFP1/2 were pedestal childhood films for me
I could've really gotten on board with some of the tropes the movie goes for, but the end product is a very fumbled bag.
I love KFP 1/2 but I recognize we won’t get something like that again after 3 (unless the Puss in Boots The Last Wish effects kicks high gear in the next couple years) so I’m not bothered if 4 isn’t the same level of kino
>not bothered if 4 isn’t the same level of kino
Not OP and I get what you're saying, but it irks me that the film botched Tai Lung's big return. He just stops in for 5 minutes and goes back to being dead? They could bring him back again, but it'd seem a bit fanfiction-esque.
Shitty sequels are inevitable, but sequels that actively squander the potential of the franchise bother me.
Admittedly, Tai Lung wasn't too heavily advertised, but they put him in the trailer and posters, so they were obviously hoping to cash in on his popularity.
That is absolutely bizarre. It really does sound like an extended episode of one of those dubiously-canon KFP television shows.
>Zhen beats Chameleon with the staff
Does she use it to suck out all the stolen kung-fu or something? The minimal practice doesn't bother me too much (training montages are a bit dull anyway), but I'm curious as to how that works.
>Her becoming attached to Po so quickly is also baffling.
She sounds like a character-by-numbers, honestly. She's a SASSY FEMALE THIEF who turns good because the plot says so.
I need to see the movie to decide if Tai Lung having more would be better, because it might be a case where other stuff already needs development and Tai Lung would just get in the way. There is a whole movie outside of just him.
Not gonna blame Dreamworks for not doing too much of an MCU fanservice though
This sounds awfully like the madame web stunt, is there someone on hollywood who legit believes this sort of bullshit sells?
>madame web stunt
What'd they do with her?
Ads and promo material HEAVILY showcased the cast suited up on their spider suits so everyone thought that the movie would be about that, spoder woman doing spider things, but instead the scenes of the spider cast were just a 30 sec future vision near the damn end of the movie.
LOL holy shit. Hollywood is fricking shameless, this is insane. It's like they hate their fans.
Maybe the fan reaction will make them slap Tai Lung into some dubiously-canon spinoff or something.
There’s always a KFP tv show around so I hope the next one brings the villains back and the Five. They will not be voiced by the same actors, but they can still be there.
The one after 3 banked on the panda village so now they’ll bank off events from 4, like Zhen and Tai Lung
Exactly. It'll be fanfiction-esque, but it could at least give us more of the characters we care about.
>They will not be voiced by the same actors, but they can still be there.
Honestly, they should probably just recast them in the movies as well. It seems like they can barely focus on any of them because their VAs are so expensive.
A lot of the VAs are also old. The fake Shifu Ascends track would have actually been fitting because Dustin Hoffman is getting too old for these movies
Exactly. They had a great opportunity to have Shifu sacrifice himself for Tai Lung or something touching like that and they totally blew it.
Hollywood execs/employees are lucky that breathing is a reflex, because they'd never remember how to otherwise.
yea but then we wouldn't get more best boy for later movies
Alright, I'll amend my statement: they missed their chance to give us warm fuzzies by having Shifu and Tai Lung reconcile.
Is that shit smeared on his head?
Yeah yeah sure
it's ink
> I also thought it would be more in character for Tai Lung to just start beating the shit out of anyone and everyone nearby to get what he wants. I'd picture that as getting revenge on Po and/or Shifu, a second chance to reclaim the dragon warrior throne.
That would have made more people angry as many have wanted to see him in a sympathetic light
People wanted a redemption arc for him, but he'd have to start out as still being an evil bastard. If he'd reformed all the way in the Spirit Realm it'd be boring.
Why would he need to start evil? Being beaten by Po and Kai should have humbled him
Well it just wouldn't be very interesting writing if he came back as already reformed. It'd mean crucial character development took place offscreen. He could come back as a little humbled, but he'd still need to be a massive butthole to start out a proper redemption arc.
>I don't think Po really showcases any of his "techniques" either besides the very end after she's defeated.
You're shitting me. He never tries the Wuxi Finger Hold or any Chi techniques or anything?
Also intended for:
Yeah. No Wuxi finger hold, no inner-peace mastery, and Chi only at the very end to send the chameleon to the spirit world. The fox girl is the one who just picks up the jade staff thing and defeats the chameleon. There is only a very small scene halfway through the movie where Po semi-teaches her how to use it with a food analogy. Her becoming attached to Po so quickly is also baffling.
I didn't
>inb4 you bring up Azula
>Shen and Po was fleshed out more than just 30 seconds
Shen canonically had no possible way to win a 1vs1 duel against a kungfu master, unless he pulls some kind of dirty trick out of nowhere.
His assassin's fighting style is not enought to fight back against an expert Master, let alone the dragon warrior who destroyed a monster like Tai Lung.
>the worst day of my life
I mean, from his prospective it was.
The role of dragon warrior, that same title that had his adopted son going crazy for getting denied it, was given not to one of his new prominent students, but to a random panda that went on the ring out of nowhere.
Considering that, for him, the revelation of the true dragon warrior was also a sort of atonement for his failure with Tai Lung, that was indeed the worst day of his whole life until Po proven himself worthy
>Shifu dies & Tai Lung takes his place
That would be something they need to dedicate two films for. It would be amazing if done right.
Yeah, I'd have been totally down for that and it would've tied in really well with the theme of "change," but we all know that the "accepting change" theme in movies is just code for "accepting shitty new sequels and boring new characters."
They could have used this movie to tease his debut for the fifth film. Have him see the landscape change after he's been gone for so long, the furious five alone are able to subdue him so at the end he escapes to train in the shadows.
In the Fifth film we see him do a Hero Hunter arc from One Punch Man. While this is happening, a new force enters the scene as an "ally", a foreign nation with new fighting styles and innovations that shakeup the landscape of Po's world. The East and Western forces work together to stop Tai Lung through out the movie.
Steadily beating stronger foes and having close calls with death and then at climax he's become an unstoppable monster to everyone but the Dragon Warrior. Po ends up defeating him but Po in this fight is acting more like a teacher while he beats Tai Lung, it ends with Tai Lung lost and humbled as he once again retreats but the audience is left questioning what he will do next film.
Final film is Tai Lung's redemption arc, it's also where the shaky alliance between the foreign nations collapse. Some people from the east like what the west is offering and switch sides, same goes for foreign adversaries liking what the east has to offer. Despite that the majority of the two worlds are at odds, its' all very muddy. Po has the herculean task of saving both worlds from an endless war and Tai Lung's redemption is a part of his plan.
That's what I had in my mind but it's more of a fan fic at this point.
Ooh, that's pretty sweet. "Hero Hunter" Tai Lung could definitely be pretty cool, and you could foreshadow his redemption by having him spare a lot of the heroes. He doesn't kill them because he just wants to beat them to test out his new abilities.
My idea was: "Tai Lung reconciles with Shifu and helps fight Chameleon, everyone else hates him until he saves the valley from another villain and proves his good intentions, and then he heads off to be a wandering badass." Pretty standard stuff I guess.
I'm actually curious if they'll do something more with him. The TV show after 3 focused on the Panda village, so the next one might focus on Zhen and the villains, like this guy said:
Maybe something like "Kung-fu Panda: Spirit Warriors" where Po temporarily summons back a different master to help him each episode? It'd be crazy toyetic.
MCU has left me tired of fanservice and movies setting up others, I'll take whatever standalone movie we get left anymore. I'm already disappointed that Dreamworks is making a HTTYD live action remake, they do not need to jump on this other Hollywood trend
They were trying for fanservice either way with Tai Lung; I'd just prefer an actual interesting plot than a cameo role.
Lower level fanservice over MCU slop any day of the week babyyyyy
Naw, cheap cameos are boring. If you're gonna bring somebody back, bring them back. At least try for something ambitious.
Gotta see the movie to determine how cheap it really is.
>buries the hatchet with Po just in time to go back to being dead
It's cheap.
Wait for the film
He doesn't even talk to Shifu. It's Joever.
From what I hear most of your audience cheered for the film, so it certainly depends on each person. I’m content with it as long as it entertains me, has cool action and doesn’t ruin any character. And while you say the latter does happen, I’ll see that myself as I heard the same for KFP3 and loved that anyways.
>The furious five is not present whatsoever
ENOUGH
Movie comes out in Malaysia supposedly tomorrow so maybe someone there can screen record it? I’m assume there’s english showings there
Actually they do show up, but at the end and say nothing.
Test
why would they show it at s university
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I can hear that exact line in my head with just that image and those blanks. Based anon.
>The entire movie is full of Marvel one-liners and quips.
Bro did you even watch the first three movies?
>tfw just read another spoiler
Is Tai Lung's last line really "See you on the other side, Dragon Warrior."?
That is so fricking lame, it basically confirms he'll never be back. Frick this movie.
>university had a pre-screening
I don't think that happens?
I mean do you go to a world class film school, some fancy rich ivy league school? What school would do this?
And if they did it, might be a legal contract, nda, to not give any info about it, or if you did give info and it was made aware it was you, you could be sued.
Now there are some people on twitter and junk who work DEEP in the animation/production industry for years (decades), that get early videos of eps, and sometimes leak them.
But it doesn't happen that much, out of billions of people, there's only a couple or few that do it.
And op is like one of them?
I'm not trying to sound conspiracy theory here, but i don't believe op.
It's not hard to make a fake plot of a family pg movie that has 3 other movies (and some specials and series.)
So people know
Couple or few means 2 or 3
2 or 3, out of Billions...
You have better chance of winning lottery then finding a leaker online.
(although i have seen them online before)
This is (or was) a thing. Every once in a while, when I was at college, they would have a free screening of a new movie at the theatre in the student union, though most of what they showed was after the initial theatrical run. I can't remember exactly which movies I saw there when they were new but Up and Adventureland come to mind.
>To articulate the notion that "Kung Fu Panda 2" is suboptimal, one must delve into its narrative intricacies and cinematic elements, thereby unraveling its deficiencies. Despite its glossy animation and commendable voice performances, the sequel is marred by a myriad of shortcomings. Primarily, the plot is plagued by predictability and lack of originality, reminiscent of its predecessor's narrative arc. The narrative fails to transcend the conventional hero's journey, rendering it formulaic and uninspired. Moreover, character development remains stagnant, with protagonists adhering to archetypal roles without meaningful evolution or depth. Antagonists, purportedly menacing, lack the gravitas necessary to instill genuine threat, resulting in a tepid conflict resolution devoid of emotional resonance. Cinematically, the film suffers from pacing issues, oscillating between frenetic action sequences and stagnant expository dialogue, thereby disrupting the narrative's coherence and viewer engagement. Furthermore, thematic depth, a hallmark of enduring cinematic endeavors, is conspicuously absent, reducing the film to a hollow spectacle devoid of intellectual stimulation. In essence, "Kung Fu Panda 2" succumbs to the trappings of sequelitis, failing to innovate or transcend its predecessor, thereby relegating itself to the annals of forgettable cinematic endeavors.
good Letterboxd review
Wait - so he doesnt get his redemption arc and be appreciated?
He’s not evil and respects Po by the end. He also takes the villain back with him to the spirit realm so she doesn’t hurt anyone again.
So technically he got the Darth Vader redemption
>he got the Darth Vader redemption
lol that's actually pretty fitting considering his parallels to Anakin
Well there you go
Im pretty content with that ending but damn they couldn't at least let him talk to Shifu once? frick that shit
I know, that's just HIGHLY fricked up. He should have wanted to see Shifu one more time, just to apologize...this makes it seem like the director actually never saw the first movie, but was just aware the characters existed, and was unaware of their relation to each other.
That only worked because it was at the end of a three-movie arc. It would've been lame as hell if they'd brought Darth Vader back from the dead just for five minutes so he could off Palpatine and give Luke a pat on the back.
TaI Lung had his story finished at the end of 1, you're lucky they even brought him back at all when there was no need
I'd rather they just leave him dead, honestly. Either bring him back or don't, but don't half-ass it. Half-assing it just wastes a potentially good storyline.
This. Shifu's jealousy of Po as Oogway's successor could've tied in nicely with Tai Lung's jealousy of Po as Dragon Warrior.
He doesn't even reconcile with Shifu, though, so it's still lame.
Maybe I'm just salty, but I'm sick of this franchise focusing on dumb characters like panda kids while Tai Lung and the Five are neglected.
So we're getting Diane 2.0
Only the first movie is good. Maybe that wouldn't be the case if John Stevenson and Mark Osborne returned to direct the sequels.
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To think that Tusker is the reason why John Stevenson joined DreamWorks. Skip to 11:34
Shut up ya b***h
Cope. It's true. 2 is goyslop and i don't remember caring for 3.
The first one will always remain the best but man bro you're so autistic
>The movie was such a massive downgrade from the previous entries
genuinely can't imagine it being more boring than 3 but I'll have to see
So apparently Zhen is not the dragon warrior, but a candidate for it, like Tai Lung was for Shifu.
Lord Shen didn't have any depth or gravitas. His feelings about those cannons are never once explored.
>depth or gravitas
His feelings of betrayal over his parents? His relative kindness to the Soothsayer? His fear of Po? His status as Po's mother's killer?
>His feelings about those cannons
They're CANNONS, you fricking moron. How's he supposed to feel about them? They're just tools.
>His feelings of betrayal over his parents? His relative kindness to the Soothsayer? His fear of Po? His status as Po's mother killer?
Goyslop storyline. One of the worst storylines ever written by DreamWorks.
Shut up, fricktard. You've been posting about KFP2 for years without saying anything. Stop shitting up our threads.
>Anon doesn’t understand that villains can have complex feelings and attachments
Shen isn't a complex character. Not in the final film at least. Barebones villain.
The director said the 5 would be present in a VERY short cut-away, showing them engaged in some other mission, no speaking parts.
He said they were in the movie, not anything else you just said. That's from some reddit post that's been proven fake as several other people have claimed they show up in the end to train with Zhen. They have no speaking lines, but it's not a cut-away gag
Not a GAG, just a mention, then showing what they're up to briefly. A cut-away.
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This is a garbage storyline written by hacks
Keep bumping freak, until we get the Malaysia screen recording of the movie
I feel like the villain should've been about how she has no original ideas
>Kai did it first
>Shen did it first
>Tai Lung did it first
And so on
The past 4 Dreamworks movies had people online obsessed with a villain character (or a “bad guy” in terms of the furry Lupin movie) and I expect Chameleon to be no different
So does that animal version of China have an emperor? Were Lord Shen and the wolves/gorillas hoping to overthrow someone with those cannons?
Lord Shen wanted his city and then he’d just frick around
Am I the only one who wanted tai lung to come back evil
I mean, it'd just be a repeat of KFP1 if he did.
Not if he was handled like frieza
Apparently they're planning more movies so he could be a recurring secondary villain
>Apparently they're planning more movies so he could be a recurring secondary villain
He's apparently made his peace with Po, so I'm not sure what villainy he'd get up to.
They also blew their big chance to do "TAI LUNG IS BACK!!" so it might not have much impact, whether he was redeemed or not.
Yeah I meant if tai lung came back evil, but they already blew it
Ah, gotcha.
Yes, he's a sympathetic creature, not evil.
This franchise has to be one of the biggest examples of wasted potentilal in Hollywood. They had something great in their hands with the first two films and short films, then somehow just drove it into the ground.
This is why I don’t get excited for movies anymore.
Nah, 3 was based. Other than the villain being shit, everything else felt like a natural evolution and fit with Po's journey. Maybe some jokes didn't land, but the entire story fed itself thematically.
And while the villain sucks, he does feel like a threat and has the biggest fights in the series, which I like. Po went form fighting kung fu masters to tyrants to immortals, that's sweet. Beautiful film too.
No the panda village also sucked
3 was just boring. It was where the franchise stopped focusing on interesting characters and became a bunch of stupid fluff.
>interesting characters
Because the soothsayer, the boss wolf, and masters Ox/Croc were very interesting, right?
>Soothsayer
Yes, her attempts to reason with Shen were interesting and tragic. She loved him and tried to talk sense into him, but it didn't work.
>Boss Wolf
Him defying Shen and showing a hint of nobility was interesting, even if he was mostly just a goofy henchman.
>the masters
Got me there.
But KFP3 has nothing interesting. Kai is dull, Li Shan is dull, the pandas are dull. It's all so boring.
>She loved him
They don't explain why she cared about him or what is their history
She was his parents' advisor and they were probably close when he was growing up.
It focused mainly on Po, his dads, and Kai. Kai sucked, but Po and his dads were great characters. The panda village were mostly tools for developing those three.
>drove it into the ground.
Just like Star Wars, and the Hobbit trilogy, and the new Daniel Craig Bond films, and all new superhero movies, and....
God I hate Hollywood.
Nobody's making you watch those.
But I used to like those franchises, same with KFP.
There was a 3?
Po beat up a big angry MCU villain with Chi powers. That's about it.
Panda 2 would've gotten closer to hitting the mark if it kept the original backstory for Shen (sick albino peawiener with neglectful parents, who only got love as a child by his soothsayer nanny, who won the wolves' loyalty for being the peawiener family' only member to be friendly with them, and who wanted power to stop feeling ignored). None of that information is in the final movie. Why did DreamWorks change their mind about that backstory? Who knows.
>None of that information is in the final movie. Why did DreamWorks change their mind about that backstory? Who knows.
They were afraid that he'd become too sympathetic, like Tai Lung.
I assure you that KFP2 would've turned out better if it had the directors from the first movie. As it is, it's just a hollow shell of what it could've been. The potential was there, but it was sadly unfulfilled.
I am actually interested in a TV show after 4 now, I'd like to see what they can do with Zhen and Po. I don't know if we will ever have a KFP5, depends on how well the movie does in box office, so that show may have to fill the gaps.
Maybe after the fan complaints they finally put the Furious Five in one of these damn shows.
>KFP5 depends on 4's box office
Let's hope it fricking tanks.
Oh well, at least the fox girl looks like she fricks human men.
have a nice day
Shut up you moron?
>Po can come back just fine in KFP3
>Tai Lung can't come back for good
It's not fair, bros.
New clip featuring the gay dads
https://x.com/HollywoodHandle/status/1763767697639121319?s=20
Seems like it will be a weird year for Dreamworks
Isn't their new Megamind thing a piece of shit, too? I guess they used the last of their talent on The Last Wish.
KFP4 will not be received as bad as Megamind, if anything it will get better treatment just because it's not that thing(obviously they're different, one is for theaters and the other for streaming, but to the regular audience they don't care about that)
Orion and the Dark was cool and they got the Lonely Robot movie coming up, so it'll be interesting to see how all their projects pan out.
Out in Malaysia today
Poland as well
That explains the sudden reviews in Polish
After The Last Wish I refuse to believe this movie will be shit, I know the Megamind sequel on Peawiener is awful but that’s on a streaming service. This is a fourth film and I want it to be good.
At the very least if it’s disappointing I can just pretend this one doesn’t exist like Toy Story.
>This is a fourth film and I want it to be good.
"Fourth film" and "good" seldom go together.
Shrek 4 was decent apology for Shrek 3
They can be once in a blue moon. Mad Max and Die Hard come at the top my head.
Shrek Forever After was good and the true third Shrek. Seriously you can just pretend Shrek the Third never existed and that he had the kids offscreen.
kino...
>mfw
I'm going to watch it anyway and enjoy it, not going to read your spoilers
AND WE GET PO SING A ONE MORE TIME COVER GODDAMN, HOW CAN IT BE BAAD
It really can’t be with that in it
Alright, I'm gonna watch it on big screen today since no one bother to leak the movie like in the case of the Last Wish.
If anything I'll enjoy the visuals.
Where are you from? I know it's out in select countries today.
Poland.
Neat, was it released in english? To look out for any screen recordings posted online
Nah, it's a cartoon so we don't have screenings in in other languages than our own (except maybe for Ukrainian, because if so many emigrees)
Just saw the movie, in a way it's better than KFP3 , not as many annoying panda moments, When was okay, even got a roughen up during the training montage)
she did the wipe fox butt after having her rump burned, naughty
How do you pronounce Zhen? Zyen with very short 'y'?
Kung Fu Panda 2 reminds me a lot of the Astro Boy movie in several aspects regarding the writing and pacing. That's not a good thing. The lesson to be learned from both movies is that sometimes 1 director isn't enough.
All you accomplished with your schizophrenic spam was turning KFP2 into a sacred cow
can you explain why Shifu suddenly decided that Po should become a spiritual leader?
Shifu didn't want shit, it's the turtle wish and Shifu just accepted it
Shifu just exists to tell Po what the theme of the movie is and what he has to accomplish by the end of the movie. It's a shame because he was the best character from the first movie.
That cave scene at the start of KFP2 has such underwhelming dialogue. Being the only Po/Shifu conversation in the film and the longest scene with Shifu, you'd expect the writers to come up with better dialogue.
He was kinda worse in 3, I don't know why they decided to make him more goofy.
He's underwhelming in both 2 and 3. He did get more screentime in 3 at least.
Don't engage with the KFP2 schizo
wtf does he have on his head
festive hat, i think it's from the winter special
I like the idea of Chameleon and Zhen being an evil mother-daughter (until Zhen redeems herself) and I hear that's sort of what happens, so I'll like them based on that
damn bru, i would frick that shit out of that lizard on god
Chameleon is really tiny
Spoilers but I like this
https://youtu.be/30BUB-rRLPc?si=ekcIsBj_yitkwUxH
Please let this and the backlash of 4 mean you put the Furious Five in the next KFP tv show
Lmao look at him
What a weird graphic, looks like they removed 90% of his details
>the spectacular comeback of all your favorite old villains
Frick this movie.
Of course they’d look worse since it’s a screengrab and not a capture from the film itself since it isn’t out yet.
That's not what he's complaining about
For a moment I thought armadillo was Jackie Chan
It does feel weird to have a KFP movie without Jackie Chan. Guess Mutant Mayhem got him busy.
I finished up the dragon knight, I guess they will just retcon pirate Ping just like that? That's gonna be shitty if they do.
Shows are non canon
Frick that shit man, good way to waste someone's time. Welp I guess this movie's a dud as well.
If you enjoy a show then it doesn't matter if it's canon. Genndy Tartakovsky's Star Wars is not canon but it's still a masterpiece. Canon is meaningless.
This.
I need this to be drawn into some impregnation yiff, NOW
Based duo
But that's not Mr Ping and Li Shen.
>KFP1 came out in 2008. It was directed by John Stevenson and Mark Osborne, who came on board in late 2003/early 2004
>despite KFP1 being a huge success, John and Mark left the studio shortly after
>DreamWorks decides to make a sequel regardless, and they choose the head of story from KFP1 (Jennifer Yuh Nelson) to be the only director, in spite of her never directing a movie before. Production of KFP2 was also much shorter than KFP1's production, with the release date of early 2011 never being changed
Yuh Nelson blew it. She made a bad sequel that just leaves you missing John and Mark's direction.
Yuh Nelson also blew it with her only live action movie. Hasn't directed any movies since then, animation or otherwise.
shut up
Yuh Nelson is not a good director. Cope.
Stop shitting up our threads with your off-topic b***hing, you frickmouth.
Freak
It's good to know people like you will eventually hang themselves.
Sorry but I don't believe random strangers on the net.
In a more polite way frick you!
KP4 sounds like it could've easily just been another TV show
It'd probably have been better as a show, honestly. "KFP: Spirit Warriors" where Po fights alongside dead masters would be pretty kino.
We may get just that later this year
https://twitter.com/Octopus_Apple/status/1764042618969698381
Man i wish i could understand what they are saying haha
thats it?
that was anticlimactic. might as well just made po slap her and tell her she was bad and have her feel bad for being bad
I personally really like this type of relationship between heroes and villains so I might like the movie. I like that they both beat the final villain on their own, showing their badasses by themselves.
The real problem is that it’s too ahort.
It’s weird, the movie seems to have missed opportunities yet at the same time this doesn’t have the trope of the girlboss sidekick being stronger than the male lead cause Po is still powerful and deals the final blow. It’s honestly a conflicting dilemma for me.
It's almost like you can make a good movie with anything.
I feel like it'll be an okay movie that's frustrating because it could've been more. It seems like they picked all the most boring things to do with the characters. The plucky, heavily advertised sidekick is the new Dragon Warrior, Chameleon is just salty because she was picked on for being small, Tai Lung never meets Shifu and goes back to being dead after 5 minutes, Shifu just retires, etc.
Seriously, reading the fan speculation is heartbreaking because it all sounds so much better than the actual movie apparently is.
Fan speculation is just a bunch of fanservice moments that may not have played out well in the final film.
Or they may have played out really well. You can't just excuse boring unambitious writing by saying "Well, it MIGHT have sucked if they'd done anything else!", especially since this franchise was known for its relatively deep characters and plotlines in the first two movies.
Haven't seen the movie in full so I wouldn't know if it's unambitious. It definitely feels like the characters this time around aren't that deep, but you can write a solid simple story without having to indulge in fanservice. And from what I've seen so far my only complaint is the final battle is far too short for what the movie calls "Po's greatest opponent yet"
>Haven't seen the movie in full
We've been spoiled for pretty much every plot point; none of them sound particularly interesting.
>don't have to indulge in fanservice
Considering all the "fanservice" sounds like it would've been more powerful and interesting than the actual film, perhaps they should've indulged.
>final battle too short
It's still so funny to me that this franchise never managed to top any of the Tai Lung fight scenes from the first one.
>We've been spoiled for pretty much every plot point
It's all about how they do it. They said Zhen and Chameleon sucked, yet I like what I see from them so far.
>Considering all the "fanservice" sounds like it would've been more powerful and interesting than the actual film, perhaps they should've indulged.
Can't consider that after MCU killed any fanservice interest I could have in anything anymore
>It's still so funny to me that this franchise never managed to top any of the Tai Lung fight scenes from the first one.
KFP2 and KPF3 still have epic finales, just not with the same approach.
>Zhen and Chameleon
I'm completely indifferent. They seem like by-the-numbers characters, honestly. The Chameleon apparently doesn't even have that much screentime.
>MCU killed any fanservice interest
This is a brainless statement. A good story does not become evil "fanservice" just because the fans like it.
>KFP2 and KPF3
KFP2 does, but KFP3 is almost completely unmemorable.
>A good story does not become evil "fanservice" just because the fans like it.
No, it becomes a bad story when the writing gets too entangled in fanservice rather than telling an actual story. Don't give a flying frick about fans liking shit, I care about bad movies being made exclusively to fulfill member berries and bank their entire story in just those.
I do like that Tai Lung gets a little revenge.
This whole thing was already banking on memberberries; that's why they brought the old villains back and slapped Tai Lung on the trailer and posters. Hell, pretty much every sequel past maybe the first two in any franchise is mostly just because of memberberries.
But the movie still doesn't depend on them, they're used as tools for the villains and to give some closure to Po. They're not the main core of the story.
Hope tai lung uses her as a sex toy.
Somebody needs to redraw this image with Chameleon as the chick and Tai Lung and the other villains as the black dudes.
Bros… Tai Lung looks so hot.
Straight up
>spanish
I can sub it, give me an hour
>Po defeats Chameleon but lets Zhen punch around her evil mom first so she can have an emotional resolution, he could have exited that cage any time
What a chad
>Man i wish i could understand what they are saying
Wish no more, here's the final fight subtitled:
alright I've seen a bunch of clips from various scenes in the film all from this theater where the frick is the full cam rip
I don't know, I hate that I can't find it. There's even clips on tik tok but I can't find a single link that has the full movie
https://www.tiktok.com/@mynn3333/video/7341773335107357953
I notice no review is talking about those damn bunnies they always put in the tv spots
Thankfully they have very little presence in the movie, minion trope avoided
Thank god
Hope Dune 2 and Kong dont affect its box office that much
>wanting this crap to succeed
Cope
We're not the ones coping.
let it go
>Me reading all this.
You’ll be fine
Every franchise is gonna get assfricked eventually, I guess. I just wish that they could've kept Tai Lung around to reconcile with Shifu.
My biggest question is why now? And who asked for this? It's been 8 years since the third one and that one didn't do too well. Just leave it alone like Dragons or Madagascar. Why DreamWorks keeps doing this nostalgiabait stuff when they didn't used to is baffling. Comcast must be ruining them like Disney did Pixar.
KFP has potential for endless adventures due to the worldbuilding and Chinese culture. It’s more shocking they took this long to make it.
Besides, who asked for Puss in boots the last wish? Nobody, and now it’s their premiere work of the decade.
>"Such sad, sad faces. But now is a time only for joy. You are going to be part of something beautiful. Once we reach the harbor, in front of all the world, you and your precious kung fu will die. Then China will know to bow before me"
What the frick was Lord Shen's problem?
He was a real schizo
Shen is the only one who doesn't bow
That's fitting
How come they didn't use Veruca Dumont as one of the past villains from the spirit realm?
Shows are not canon.
Are you telling me Mr Ping canonically does not get a pirate queen wife? Cause that's rather lame.
Hope she was a real b***hy mother to Zhen or else this scene will make me feel sad
>first she stuffed her finger into Po's nose, then blew the pit into elephant's trunk
She has a fetish
Living under Chameleon must have been fricked up
Chameleon is really tiny
Anyone got that "beloved movie franchise returns, but with new female lead who sidelines the main characters" meme/picture?
Well she definitely doesn't sideline Po in this one, so no
Yeah, I wanted to mock it. I think they got away with it because she's an animal. If the movie will do good I expect fifth movie, where we will see her further development.
Yeah, wasn't planning on watching it anyways. The story ended with 3
I refuse to believe any of you care about The Furious Five outside of Tigress. If she had been in the movie more and the rest weren’t none of you would care.
Meh, monkey is pretty enjoyable. He and po had a cool friendship in the first show.
Mantis can be funny sometimes too.
Viper is for fanservice.
The very bland one is crane.
Atleast Chameleon is hot. I might have a thing for reptiles.
>When skimmed through Mantis's obstacle course instead of going through it and completely tearing her clothes
Would be funnier, but also mor expensive to animate.