lol

>find a decent guy
Ok no, stopped reading right there.
You don't find decent guys, you find guys period.
This is always what it comes down to.
All women are volcels who only are such because they want to hold out for Chad.
Enough of this discussion, I've prodded at you far enough to get you to admit what I need you to. We're done here.
>Besides it's not like incels couldn't do the same if they just really dumpster dived and tried to find the absolute worst most desperate woman who just wants to be desired in any capacity.
Incels have no such luxury.
Before you say bring up the "single mothers" fallacy, or "30 year old women" fallacy, statistically, younger 20 year old women are the most likely to be single, and 55+ year old women (the age when they start becoming single again only due to divorce and their husbands deaths) probably will refuse to date any man period.
There is no "dumpster diving" for incels, the worst and ugliest women are still reserved for desperate average men, not ugly ones.
Now that I've gone ahead and dismantled your copes, stop replying, we're done here, thanks.

Are you blind? It quite literally states the context at the bottom. The PEW research center does studies like these all the time. It just shows there are no "undesirable" women, men always outnumber women in their 30's and how single they are(n't in womens cases). There are no "garbage" women to pick up, because they're eaten up by average men who have been locked out of average women by the competition.

Tinder is just for a short fling not a stable long-term relationship.

E-Harmony or whatever site Christians use now, no excuses, learn to sift and filter, get it done, if you are a woman, your womb guarantees you success in life on a platter, especially in dating.

>Like of course women have it easier just finding random guys who'd smash, but random guys who'd stay are rarer and random guys who'd be worth it even moreso.
The usual femcel entitlement speech (yeah sure I can get a bunch of guys who'd frick me and spend time with me, but they aren't the guys I want and/or I can't get one who will stick around). Incels have trouble finding a woman who doesn't go full "MY [nonexistent] BOYFRIEND" or "Oh sorry my I'm getting a call well it was nice meeting you" within the first thirty seconds of conversation.

And all those ugly girls have at least two guys who jerk off to her, even though she would reject those guys and long for the kind of guy who plays said pranks on her (if not the literal guy who played that prank on her).

>Then go say something to her if you like her
Because not only would I have been rejected, I'm now well into my 30s and have entirely given up.

That's how it works for Chad.

That's fair. Men not knowing which woman is a BPD psycho is kind of like women not knowing which man is a rapey psycho.

POOPIE RAPIE POOPIE RAPIE

Rapey? Poopy rapey?

POOPIE RAPIE POOPIE RAPIE

[...]

POOPIE RAPIE LIVES!!!

No, I do not.

>PLEASE FEEL BAD FOR ME WAHHH
>frick trannies tho
lol

He's not obligated to be attracted to trannies anon. Or she. Whatever.

Yes? Why wouldn't he?

Well at the risk of a segue anon, are you gay, straight or bi? I'm assuming bi or pan or something but if not then it might be easier to explain it to you.

Welcome to 2024 anon. Unless you're willing to have sex with a literal man in a dress, you're an entitled bigot with too high standards.
But women? Yeah, if some guy way out of her league has no interest in her, that's on him, he should give her a chance because All Women Are Queens.

>The last time I asked a girl out, I was expelled from school & almost became a sex offender because she lied & said that I tried to rape her (this was in 6th or 7th grade)
This sounds like complete bullshit

>all I want is understanding between sexes by empathize with each other rather than egotistically judging each other
Different anon:
I wish you all the sincerest and genuine luck and good will I can give you anon. Because there's not enough of either of those in the world for you to ever see this happen.

>Woman should be allowed to dress loose without without being sexually assaulted by creeps or bawd shamed by moralist
>Woman should be allowed to do shit without there being consequences for what they do
Okay.

Look, I don't go into dark alleys flaunting fistfuls of cash in bad neighbourhoods at night.
I don't do that because it's stupid and not worth the risk.
If another man did that, I'd question his mental state.
Wearing loose clothes isn't essential to life, nor is dancing in seedy bars with only the creepiest of guys.

NTA but look it's a very basic "Don't tempt fate" piece of advice.

>but is something as subjective as loose clothing really deserving of those consequence.
>Wears a shirt saying 'bawd'
>Has a breakdown because a man treats her like a bawd and offers 20 bucks for a blowie or 30 bucks to stick it in her pooper
It's what she's choosing to advertise to the world.

Why would anyone think that girl was wearing a swedish shirt?
She's Indian, not Arab. Hence she's from England, not Stockholm.

Different anon.
Language is predicted on presumption of implicit definitions. Without a presumption of meaning language loses all function.

Implicit definitions and common use often do not align with literal definitions. I must cede that the definition in that respect for incel has changed, regardless of the fact that its original intention and creation of the meaning is directly present in the word itself. Regardless of how the word was a literal compound of its meaning, it has clearly been subverted to develop into being a synonym for a concept of "othering" and social ostracization. A concept not particularly very modern.

>mass shooter
stabber for the bongs and aussies
honestly that's where I draw the line, I hate most women but who stabs a fricking baby girl to get revenge, only target your bullies not fricking random bystanders

Yes, in so few and so crass terms.
Language is nothing if not the most brutal and total mob rule.

I didn't care, I went home and read yaoi and chatted with my online friends (and went on Cinemaphile).

all the nerd/artistic groups thought i was an ugly weirdo. i do not know what to tell you. you people who think everyone had a group growing up are fricking moronic. plenty of people were legitimately alone.

okay, and? not everyone had your experience and socialized in some ideal nerdy group where outcasts all stuck together. in fact you were literally just lucky to have that. people get so bent out of shape at admitting that so much in life is just up to chance and luck because that would mean they aren't speshal and unique. every fricking homosexual wants to believe they worked hard and struggled to get what they have and that everyone else just was lazy and or stupid. muh just world.

i literally do not fricking care.

it doesn't matter at this point. you either get it or you don't, obviously you don't since you were lucky enough to have a support system and friends.

<Tell a chubby girl in her late 20s that you love her style and she'll be happy unless you come off like a creep. Ugly women have an incel phase too, especially as teens when they think once their acne clears up they will be desirable to a chad.
This is that 30 year old women cope again.
Firstly what do you think I've been doing? Do you think I gave up after that moment?
No, God no, I was still too young and stupid to give up, instead I kept asking out multiple women into my early 20's.
All of it went horribly, all rejections upon rejections.
In all honesty, it was far worse to get called out at age 20. What you described that these women should feel is what I felt, I had to take a look at myself and think
>Why is everyone from my friend group, to the women I ask out, random women, to children, all calling me ugly? I'm not a scrawny dumb kid anymore, what's wrong with me?
It was my face. It was my face all along.
Second, this whole "Women eventually realize they need to settle meme." is just that, a meme.
No they don't women don't magically turn 20 or 30 and suddenly scramble to suck on the nearest mans wiener for salvation.
It's a myth, and ironically the opposite is true, women are the least single at age 30, none of them realize that they need to settle, because women don't need to, they get exactly what they want, men get what they can, and I can't get anything period.

They have thier own cliques of cringy weebs

As an ogrecel I can't even get that "short fling" you talk of so dismissively.
If I could even get a few one night stands my self esteem would unironically shoot through the roof, & I would actually feel like a normal person.
Also actual dating sites are very much a thing, although I guess you'll come up with some sort of excuse for that as well.

Or those words just fall out of fashion and people find new ones to say the same thing they always have.

>incel isn't about not having access to holes, it's about not having access to holes for imagined traits
Okay, sure. I'm too tired to care much.

>Society is requisite to survival
I'm sorry you couldn't get that job to put food on the table because you didn't bag enough holes

Survival hinging on acceptance from society, in the context of the display of sexuality and ability to have sex. Never having sex or even a relationship at all is miserable, I would know, but it won't kill you. If you hate women, why force yourself to long to acquire one because of societal expectations? You should focus on stuff that makes you happy. Not roasties.

>Funny story, it was the 7th grade
There's your problem. Tell a chubby girl in her late 20s that you love her style and she'll be happy unless you come off like a creep. Ugly women have an incel phase too, especially as teens when they think once their acne clears up they will be desirable to a chad. Older women stop being delusional and just want to date a non-abusive guy with a job willing to help around the house.

>So did you start asking out ugly girls, or...?
NTA but I tried. One agreed to a date, even. We went out for drinks and talking, but 30 minutes in she was already checking her phone and barely paying any attention. I tried asking her about herself or her interests, all that stuff you do when you're just meeting someone, but she only gave me one word answers. After paying her tab she told me I wasn't what she was looking for and that it'd be better if I didn't call her again. I don't know if she found someone better or not because I'm not a stalker, but I haven't felt the motivation to try again after that and I've just accepted I'll always be alone and that's okay.

You got a date and you gave up? C'mon man. That was the opposite of how you should have reacted. That should have encouraged you to keep going until you found someone you clicked with.

listening to women online you'd think the only things that happen to them in life is rape and murder.
>giving the well meaning average guy a chance? don't you know he could rape and murder me? now let me frick another playboy surely this one will stay.

It is something women are aware of starting in early childhood, and most every woman has had scary encounters with men (often also starting in childhood). Because of this I think incels don't realize there is a creep factor they give off that repels women that they need to overcome. You need to ask yourself if your vibe is making women wary. Make sure you're hygienic, be aware of things like where your eyes go, don't invade personal space off the bat, be aware of how you dress. As a man you have to make yourself seem nonthreatening to women. Talk about little siblings that you've loved and taken care of, adopt a dog, have a disarming hobby like art or music. If you're crying that you seem to literally repel women/give them a reaction of disgust there is likely a reason why that's not just "you're ugly". Most people are average veering on ugly.

It's normal etiquette to split the bill now. Thank you feminism.

>women can somehow telepathically tell when a man is a creepy incel who will RAPE and MURDER them (despite in reality its just an unattractive and shy man)
>yet always frick and date the good looking tall butthole who will genuinely abuse them and pump and dump them
wow that sure is an amazing superpower. couldn't just be women being shallow stupid c**ts. naaahhh. they're empaths and can instantly feel le """"vibes"""".

>"if you are unhygenic and behave too strangely you will subconsciously remind women of the pedophile and stalker types theyve likely had encounters with
>WAHHH BUT THEY DATE THE CHAD WHO SHOWERS AND HE RAPES THEM ANYWAY

Because I have an autistic male friend that's had several girlfriends so I know it's not true. He has every quality you would expect from an incel and he laments that dating is hard for him because it is. But he still tries, therefore he has been in relationships and had sex. It can happen to you!

He's not a janitor, he makes enough to afford a sweet city apartment alone. Not being a loser also helps immensely with dating, should have mentioned that sooner.

This is pretty revealing of the incel mindset, they both count themselves as the most unattractive repugnant individuals to go as far as to imply they're hideous enough to be counted as deformed and foreign but also believe the only measure of success is to be logfluming through any and every pussy 24/7.
Their mindset is "I want everything and deserve nothing, so I will not try" like right now I can imagine you deducting a comebak as to say "yes it truly is that impossible for me, I'm not overreacting etc. Like not to imply it's easy and that you'll never get rejected but get a fricking grip, dating someone isn't this impossible thing unless you're the Chadliest of Chads.

You sure? He's pretty short, you've probably got like two feet on him.

morons like him get enough disability money to live comfortable without working and he has a good face.

fricking go to wal-mart or whatever equivalent shithole grocery store you have locally, look around at the men who appear to be with women, and tell me the ratio of golden Adonises to literal ogres you see

so basically love doesn't exist for uggos. its all transactional and cold and loveless. not useful and making bank as an ugly man? die in a ditch. meanwhile women have all the social safety nets in the world and often have large social groups to rely on, when its not uncommon for single young men to be completely isolated nowadays.

well then i refuse to participate in a rigged game that gives vastly more leeway to people who were just born better looking and taller. what do i get out of a relationship that is entirely built upon hoping some b***h doesn't decide to up and divorce rape me? or lie and say i was abusive? what do unattractive men get in a relationship that isn't built on actual real attraction? a dead bedroom?

i will enjoy not getting divorce raped by some used up roastie who never actually was attracted to me, yeah. thanks. sounds good to me.

for men? money and uh... money.. also money. so those top 5% of ugly men who are rich can maybe frick a fat chick.

you said you need other qualities to be attractive as an uggo man. the only other qualities like that for men are wealth and resources. lets be honest nobody gives a shit about personality, not really. else attractive buttholes wouldn't have the majority of sex nowadays.

>Men can also be caring, generous, protective, patient, creative, funny, and the million other traits people have preferences for.
that would entail the woman actually getting to know you and not instantly thinking
>ew, no
when she sees an ugly dude who's not tall.

>Guys in high school even hit you with the "pretending they want to date you just to laugh in your face with their friends because you're so ugly and weird that the thought of anyone being romantic/sexual with you is the punchline" routine.
I felt bad for those b***hes. At least the autistic gaymer dudes had a group. Those girls were always alone and probably cut themselves in the bathroom to cope.

i literally had that exact same thing happen to me as an ugly dude in HS (granted it was guys saying a girl liked me and she was in on it), and i also didn't have a group and was totally alone.

>nobody gives a shit about personality
>buttholes
Being a bit of a dick to a woman is actually the personality that a lot of them want. A guy who calls them on their shit and brushes them off drives them wild. They can, and do, go for some nice guys, but they obsess over that guy who they just can't quite break.

just one side has to bring a hell of a lot more to the table if they're not prince charming.

lmao there's a new brand of feminism that aims to take men's money as a form of reparations

>going out with your friends and walking ominously next to women for 3 blocks until turning into the subshop and picking up a chicken parm
never gets old

>It literally isn't lmao.
>source: dude trust me

Yeah whatever man for anyone who isn't a nerd grab a nice escort there's lots of resources and reviewers online so use your best judgment