because he was going to leave the jedi order and teach anakin regardless of what the council said
so it's better to just allow him and keep on eye that they dont stray
also pottery since obi dies in the 1st film of the originals
and allows obi to grow over the next 2 films
Sure, but I think they still were leaving Ford's departure up in the air. I don't know all the behind the scenes lore but why is Lando flying the Falcon with Chewie in RotJ? Just feels weird, like they didn't know if he'd come back but also promised Billy Dee Williams he'd get to fly the Falcon in his contract or something
chewie is on endor in rotj
the millennium falcon was originally lando's ship, so it's fine he gets to fly it for its final mission, originally it was supposed to be blown up, but that would be a downer for no reason
>ANH - Obi Wan Kenobi dies >ESB - Han Solo dies >ROTJ - Palpatine dies, Anakin dies, Luke gets with Lei who isn't his sister >Sequels star Rey who plays Luke and Leia's daughter
Why couldn't this have been the ending?
George BTFO everybody by refusing to kill Han. Years later Disney comes along, kills Han like 10 minutes into the first movie and everything completely falls apart afterwards.
Luckily George had already ruined everything by making the prequels so none of this matters anyway.
>already ruined everything by making the prequels
cringe
>seething prequelgay
Boring.
>kills Han like 10 minutes into the first movie
moron.
>kills Han like 10 minutes into the first movie
When you write something that anyone who has seen the film knows is false then you undercut your entire post.
>implying anyone actually gives a shit about the sequels
Good one.
>kills Han like 10 minutes into the first movie
When you write something that anyone who has seen the film knows is false then you undercut your entire post.
Kasdan does sound moronic here. Star Wars does have a lot of weird "will they won't they" type shit though, Han being frozen is definitely an example. It would have been really weird if they were just like "oh he died there lol", but bringing him back also took too much screentime and then he doesn't do anything the rest of the movie anyway.
Sure, but I think they still were leaving Ford's departure up in the air. I don't know all the behind the scenes lore but why is Lando flying the Falcon with Chewie in RotJ? Just feels weird, like they didn't know if he'd come back but also promised Billy Dee Williams he'd get to fly the Falcon in his contract or something
>you're a product of the 80s
how can you say this in 1980-1982 when ROTJ's story was being written?
harrison ford really wanted his character to be killed on endor though, and they weren't sure if lando should survive the death star explosion
I wonder what else was in the early drafts of ROTJ, we know that vader was supposed to take luke to proto-coruscant where the emperor lived, and there was supposed to be a lava lair
I think it's clear that kasdan fluked episodes 4-6
he hasn't really written or created anything special since, he wasn't THE magical secret sauce of the original trilogy like people keep claiming
>kino writing of the highest order.
it's lazy
you can have characters die to raise stakes, but the stakes are already high enough in jedi
things need to resolve
Based. Frick all these homosexuals that like their grimdark endings just to make them "realistic" or some bullshit like that. Most people want stories with happy endings where the heroes triumph over evil and live to see their accomplishments. They want to forget about the depressing shit in their lives with a positive and optimistic ending.
I'm glad Lucas ignored both Kasdan and Ford and kept Han alive. Otherwise, I'm sure people would have hated RotJ for throwing away everything the first two movies did. That was the shitty sequels' mistake.
*kills qui gon
Qui Gon had to die to set up Obi Wan not being really ready to teach a padawan.
Why did the council let him then?
because he was going to leave the jedi order and teach anakin regardless of what the council said
so it's better to just allow him and keep on eye that they dont stray
No I mean why not put someone competent in charge of Anakin?
cause qui gon made obi wan pinky swear to train him
also pottery since obi dies in the 1st film of the originals
and allows obi to grow over the next 2 films
chewie is on endor in rotj
the millennium falcon was originally lando's ship, so it's fine he gets to fly it for its final mission, originally it was supposed to be blown up, but that would be a downer for no reason
Lucas should have thrown Kasdan a bone and had Lando and his gang on the Millenium Falcon conduct a kamikaze mission to bring down the Death Star.
The guy makes movies via consumer awareness focus groups so he can sell more Made in China plastic junk. He’s not an artist he’s a slop slinger.
>ANH - Obi Wan Kenobi dies
>ESB - Han Solo dies
>ROTJ - Palpatine dies, Anakin dies, Luke gets with Lei who isn't his sister
>Sequels star Rey who plays Luke and Leia's daughter
Why couldn't this have been the ending?
no gf EVER for the main character in a series is a bold/odd move. even neo got a weird stunted relationship with trinity.
Luke is a good boy and can handle the Jedi celibacy until a redhead comes along
Trinity is hot AF
>ESB - Han Solo dies
It's extremely heavily implied that Han survives the freezing procedure.
Not implied, explicitly explained to the audience
>Vader: Well Calrissian, did he survive?
>Lando: Yes, he's alive. And in perfect hibernation.
He should have died
He shouldn't have for all the reasons Lucas stated in the OP.
because what we got is better
George BTFO everybody by refusing to kill Han. Years later Disney comes along, kills Han like 10 minutes into the first movie and everything completely falls apart afterwards.
Luckily George had already ruined everything by making the prequels so none of this matters anyway.
He's always one step ahead
Absolute mastermind.
>seething prequelgay
Boring.
>implying anyone actually gives a shit about the sequels
Good one.
>already ruined everything by making the prequels
cringe
>kills Han like 10 minutes into the first movie
moron.
>kills Han like 10 minutes into the first movie
When you write something that anyone who has seen the film knows is false then you undercut your entire post.
Kasdan's notion to have Luke killed was a truly horrible idea, but he's not wrong in principle
I'm down with having Yoda killed
>"I don't want to "kill" Yoda
>Yoda dies
What I told you was true from a certain point of view
Yoda getting in bed and passing away was sweet and touching, not at all like getting killed
He just let go
That's the joke son. Fricking sad I had to point it out to you.
Yeah, well. Maybe I'm just a moron, did you ever think of that?
Kasdan is the quintessential Hollywood hack that does not understand the property, its audience or its appeal.
Lucas is right.
>George Lucas is the spiritual opposite of Joss Whedon
kek
Joss Whedon is a spiritual void
Remember this shirt?
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Kasdan does sound moronic here. Star Wars does have a lot of weird "will they won't they" type shit though, Han being frozen is definitely an example. It would have been really weird if they were just like "oh he died there lol", but bringing him back also took too much screentime and then he doesn't do anything the rest of the movie anyway.
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Sure, but I think they still were leaving Ford's departure up in the air. I don't know all the behind the scenes lore but why is Lando flying the Falcon with Chewie in RotJ? Just feels weird, like they didn't know if he'd come back but also promised Billy Dee Williams he'd get to fly the Falcon in his contract or something
lucas is single-handedly responsible for the peak of the franchise the last 20 minutes of rotj
>you're a product of the 80s
how can you say this in 1980-1982 when ROTJ's story was being written?
harrison ford really wanted his character to be killed on endor though, and they weren't sure if lando should survive the death star explosion
I wonder what else was in the early drafts of ROTJ, we know that vader was supposed to take luke to proto-coruscant where the emperor lived, and there was supposed to be a lava lair
early scripts of ESB had a bunch of changes
episode iii was quite different at first too
I think it’s a stab at Reagan
I think it's clear that kasdan fluked episodes 4-6
he hasn't really written or created anything special since, he wasn't THE magical secret sauce of the original trilogy like people keep claiming
Lucas was wrong. The popularity of Game of Thrones is proof that "killing your darlings" is kino writing of the highest order.
>kino writing of the highest order.
it's lazy
you can have characters die to raise stakes, but the stakes are already high enough in jedi
things need to resolve
>"killing your darlings"
Faulkner meant kill them if they dont serve the story, he didn't mean kill them because its edgy.
GOT gives every villain almost infinite plot armor.
Cersei should have died hundreds of times but didn't.
By what metric?
Based. Frick all these homosexuals that like their grimdark endings just to make them "realistic" or some bullshit like that. Most people want stories with happy endings where the heroes triumph over evil and live to see their accomplishments. They want to forget about the depressing shit in their lives with a positive and optimistic ending.
I'm glad Lucas ignored both Kasdan and Ford and kept Han alive. Otherwise, I'm sure people would have hated RotJ for throwing away everything the first two movies did. That was the shitty sequels' mistake.
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