Kind of dumb how Giffany was shown to be an unrealistic ideal and that Soos needed to talk to real women. Even though a female clone of yourself with matching interests seems just as unrealistic.
No. The show already had issues balancing characters, so it's for the best anyway.
She is. Gravity Falls had a real issue with developing characters outside of the Pines family. Female characters in particular were limited to romance plots (Wendy, Tambry, Candy, Lazy Susan, etc.). The closest thing Hirsch ever did to push past that was Wendy turning down Dipper's careless advances after she had just broken up with Robbie and I guess when she chaperoned Mabel's unicorn quest. But Melody is about as two-dimensional as you can get:
>Hi, I'm a 3 dimensional woman! My name is Melody. >Gee, if there's anything that turns me on, it's ogling fat, ugly men that are riding on mechanical kid-sized horses! >I mean, nothing says "CONFIDENCE" like a grown man (who also doesn't keep his appearance), doing childish things in public! >See, Soos? You don't actually need to date that waifu, 'cause she isn't actually real!
I still love the show, but let's not pretend it wasn't lacking in much of the supporting cast.
This episode is really insincere about this to boot. It's apparent very sincere when Melody pops up outta fricking nowhere and likes everything that Soos likes, but completely insincere when Giffany does pretty much the exact same shit. Back to back they have the same function of 'Soos say thing he like? I LIKE THING TOO'. By making her do exactly what Giffany does, they ironically make her feel less 3 dimensional than Giffany because at least Giffany has some sort of motivation. Melody is just a repeating record of whatever Soos likes.
8 months ago
Anonymous
See I think the difference is that Giffany is programmed to like the same things Soos does while Melody is only badly written to do the same. They should've had a part where it's >"Oh, oh, and what about X?!" >"Eh, I think it's mostly boring." >"Oh." >"But I like the spinoff where X does Y!" >"No way that's my favorite thing too!"
And it would've shown a bit more human side of having things to disagree on
8 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah that's exactly what I mean. I think just this little dialogue snippet alone could have improved the episode.
> Kind of dumb how Giffany was shown to be an unrealistic ideal and that Soos needed to talk to real women. Even though a female clone of yourself with matching interests seems just as unrealistic.
Never thought of it that way but you’re 100% right
And a sentient AI GF fits a lot more with the theme of the show
Like in the world of gravity falls how is Giffany not real?
All giffany had to do was be a bit nicer and less possessive and she could have been a better girlfriend, soos could have put her in an ipad or something to have dates with her
If there’s one good thing i can say about bravest warriors is that they handled human x A.I love better than the usual “she is not real = bad”
As a fat guy trying to lose weight I think it's dishonest and a bad influence to try and convince others that you can find love if you keep looking but change nothing about yourself, it's why I agree with the "Fat comic relief character finding love" poster, it's never anything but patronizing and lightly insulting at best, and delusion feeding at worst.
Yeah I'm aware fat dudes get girlfriends sometimes (which is what you meant to say m'bot) but they're outliers, not the rule. Encouraging this behavior through lies is never good.
Dead eye
Literally, the character exists to just be Soos's girlfriend
And that's a good thing.
Does she even show up again after? Or anything beyond a background cameo
Kind of dumb how Giffany was shown to be an unrealistic ideal and that Soos needed to talk to real women. Even though a female clone of yourself with matching interests seems just as unrealistic.
No. The show already had issues balancing characters, so it's for the best anyway.
>Even though a female clone of yourself with matching interests seems just as unrealistic.
I always thought she seemed contrived
She is. Gravity Falls had a real issue with developing characters outside of the Pines family. Female characters in particular were limited to romance plots (Wendy, Tambry, Candy, Lazy Susan, etc.). The closest thing Hirsch ever did to push past that was Wendy turning down Dipper's careless advances after she had just broken up with Robbie and I guess when she chaperoned Mabel's unicorn quest. But Melody is about as two-dimensional as you can get:
>Hi, I'm a 3 dimensional woman! My name is Melody.
>Gee, if there's anything that turns me on, it's ogling fat, ugly men that are riding on mechanical kid-sized horses!
>I mean, nothing says "CONFIDENCE" like a grown man (who also doesn't keep his appearance), doing childish things in public!
>See, Soos? You don't actually need to date that waifu, 'cause she isn't actually real!
I still love the show, but let's not pretend it wasn't lacking in much of the supporting cast.
This episode is really insincere about this to boot. It's apparent very sincere when Melody pops up outta fricking nowhere and likes everything that Soos likes, but completely insincere when Giffany does pretty much the exact same shit. Back to back they have the same function of 'Soos say thing he like? I LIKE THING TOO'. By making her do exactly what Giffany does, they ironically make her feel less 3 dimensional than Giffany because at least Giffany has some sort of motivation. Melody is just a repeating record of whatever Soos likes.
See I think the difference is that Giffany is programmed to like the same things Soos does while Melody is only badly written to do the same. They should've had a part where it's
>"Oh, oh, and what about X?!"
>"Eh, I think it's mostly boring."
>"Oh."
>"But I like the spinoff where X does Y!"
>"No way that's my favorite thing too!"
And it would've shown a bit more human side of having things to disagree on
Yeah that's exactly what I mean. I think just this little dialogue snippet alone could have improved the episode.
> Kind of dumb how Giffany was shown to be an unrealistic ideal and that Soos needed to talk to real women. Even though a female clone of yourself with matching interests seems just as unrealistic.
Never thought of it that way but you’re 100% right
And a sentient AI GF fits a lot more with the theme of the show
Like in the world of gravity falls how is Giffany not real?
She's in the last episode working at the Mystery Shack counter.
She takes Soos's place as the on-site repairperson.
My standards are a little higher than Jillian Bell, thank you.
If the show was made today they'd make her have an ugly Mexican voice.
Chubby nerd sex is the absolute best. It's so all over the place. I would prescribe every anon that experience if I could.
All giffany had to do was be a bit nicer and less possessive and she could have been a better girlfriend, soos could have put her in an ipad or something to have dates with her
If there’s one good thing i can say about bravest warriors is that they handled human x A.I love better than the usual “she is not real = bad”
He could have just yiffed Giffany while she was possessing the beaver animatronic.
Rouge AI waifs that can hack the planet > some ham beast
Soos actually fricked up
they kinda tripped over the messaging of this episode by making giffany actually alive
As a fat guy trying to lose weight I think it's dishonest and a bad influence to try and convince others that you can find love if you keep looking but change nothing about yourself, it's why I agree with the "Fat comic relief character finding love" poster, it's never anything but patronizing and lightly insulting at best, and delusion feeding at worst.
I mean weird dudes do get GFs sometimes.
Yeah I'm aware fat dudes get girlfriends sometimes (which is what you meant to say m'bot) but they're outliers, not the rule. Encouraging this behavior through lies is never good.
I don't even know if its that much of an outlier
Absolute ham planets maybe, but not normal fat dudes.
It's not 2005 anymore Anon.
I mean...yes? She was literally invented just to frick Soos.
She's made from the same mold as Wendy, but with more honesty about it.