a free 3d modelling program that someone made for editing character models for the first half-life game. It was for low poly stuff but you could do early skeletal animation (move the 'arm bone' instead of trying to select all the vertices that made up the arm) and if you animated with it you'd get the characteristic flattening/pinching of the elbow vertices as if the arm was a plastic tube.
Neo in Matrix 2 once he gets his stupid pole, is rendered with this level of early 3d bendy crapness
>The Matrix
Great movie. An almost perfect synthesis of original storytelling and worldvuilding coupled with tight action scenes and new technology >The Matrix Reloaded
Okay...ish. Serviceable but not as fresh or awesome as the original. Too much time wasted on things that aren't awesome. Dumbass race scene that appeals to morons that aged like milk. >Matrix Revolutions (or whatever the frick it was called)
Absolute dogshit. Did you like Zion and things that aren't cool man doing karate and guns? Well that's most of the movie. >New Matrix
Didn't see it and it looks like dumb troony-shit
>surface rendered inhospitable to human life >humanity lives underground >hiding from AI run amok >everyone's tribal-themed minorities
matrix 3 ends with the timeline merging with our own timeline and becoming our reality to-be. The superlative form of kino
>Matrix 1
absolute kino >Matrix 2 and 3 both had decent/redeeming qualities, but overall sucked. should have been cut/reshot into 1 GOOD movie >Animatrix, Matrix Online and Path Of Neo should have been the ONLY extended universe releases. NO sequels
>The Matrix Online
absolute soul, it was way before its time in how you could enter literally every building (granted there was an array of pre-set interiors but still).
That and dealing with loading in and rendering the environment initially with matrix code was really clever
3>2 just because it tried to create something new. 2 was just a generic action flick that didn't know how to spend its time
animatrix was superior to both and you dont even mention it
Matrix Revolutions is badly underrated. Everything about it has this beautiful fin-de-siècle quality, this sense that everything's coming to an end: a definitive, final end, which just makes the fourth one even more redundant and pointless.
the fourth one sort of misses the point, that the matrix is a bad thing. it is a direct result of troonys demanding conformity to a new system they rule over
The grit and desperation in Revolutions was a good departure from the first two where everything's stylish without breaking a sweat. It has a bunch of problems but so do the rest of the sequels
I am genuinely still mad about this copout 20 years later
They squeezed in an action scene whenever they had an excuse but the best premise for one in the whole sequel is right in front of them and they go "nope lol"
I'm not sure. I got mine years ago from a mega link I think on a 35mm interest forum. That link is almost certainly gone now. The filename I have is "The.Matrix.1999.35mm.1080p.Cinema.DTS.v2.0.mkv" if you want to go digging around.
this 35mm scan has the same problem as the 4K remasters, missing the green tint. the agents have green fricking suits because green is the color scheme of the matrix. smith is meant to have a black suit when he separates from the mainframe. color was so vital to the films and the remasters literally fricked it up.
>missing the green tint. the agents have green fricking suits because green is the color scheme of the matrix
No. That was only added to the sequels then retconned on subsequent post sequel DVD releases. It's not present on the original film reels or the trailers. If the agents had tinted suits, all the other instances of black items would have fricked up tint due to blanket color correction when digitizing the theater reel scan. It's all consistent because the blacks were consistent. Not even the VHS release had the sickly green or teal tint that was later added, that had a tan cast.
I watched it in the theater, there was no green tint.
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Agreed. There were no green suits.
I watched it like 10 times in the theaters, too. It was my favorite movie by far, and still is today. Prior to the matrix, watching a movie more than once was very rare for me.
>it's present in all 3 films you lying sack of shit
It is now. That's what I was trying to explain to you. All the movies have been regraded a half dozen times at this point. The original grade a theater goer in 1999 would have seen is very different to what ended up getting released in the trilogy box set in 2004. That's also how you know you're talking to someone who never saw the movie in theaters. Kind of like the millennials and zoomers who shit on moviegoers in the past for not "getting" bladerunner when it came out in 1982 not realizing that what they know as bladerunner post final cut is a far cry from the state it was in when it originally hit theaters.
>trilogy box set in 2004
i don't have that ultimate matrix collection that came with the model sentinel, i have the dvd that predates reloaded and revolutions and green tint is present in it
>missing the green tint. the agents have green fricking suits because green is the color scheme of the matrix
No. That was only added to the sequels then retconned on subsequent post sequel DVD releases. It's not present on the original film reels or the trailers. If the agents had tinted suits, all the other instances of black items would have fricked up tint due to blanket color correction when digitizing the theater reel scan. It's all consistent because the blacks were consistent. Not even the VHS release had the sickly green or teal tint that was later added, that had a tan cast.
>35mm scan is erroneously 'missing' the green tint
obvious troll post do not reply
Honestly enjoy reloaded just because it feels like it's mostly a payoff for the build up of Neo becoming "the one" in the first film. Plus the impending sense of doom with Smith, left enough tension in the plot that it was interesting to see a messiah embrace the role and then potentially still lose
>it feels like it's mostly a payoff for the build up of Neo becoming "the one" in the first film.
I like the sequels but one thing I don't like is that they immediately nerf Neo with one line. >Hm, upgrades.
Would have been too hard to write such a powerful character I guess.
He's just too much of a jerkoff >you didn't get his big words
I got his big words, the problem is he continued at length and actually had very little to say >he's an antagonist, you're supposed to hate him
People hated Cypher and it was a treat watching him chew the scenery and get btfo, people don't even hate Smith at all, but this motherfricker was just "Nope, I don't even want you to be in the movie, frick you"
>almost got a cool gnostic parable trilogy but the studio freaked out after the reception of the second movie and literally told the wachowskis to make it into the most Hollywood cliche'd piece of trash they can
I'm not sure. I got mine years ago from a mega link I think on a 35mm interest forum. That link is almost certainly gone now. The filename I have is "The.Matrix.1999.35mm.1080p.Cinema.DTS.v2.0.mkv" if you want to go digging around.
That shot in particular has been criticized since the movie came out, I'm fairly certain. If they made it again today though I don't think they'd get it much better. CGI still looks like that.
The whole trilogy is good, and "only the first one is good" is a meme because people were too moronic to understand what was going on.
We got to see two directors, siblings, make a trilogy blockbuster with an original IP. Learn to appreciate a good thing.
Even if we entertain that the last 2 films were bad, that's the risk of letting creators do their thing and try new things. Sometimes they miss the mark. Don't complain about homogenized schlop if you put that expectation on films.
You get schlop because you want schlop. Chow down piggy.
Will we ever get a new movie that says reality is not wat it seems? The matrix said we r inside a tube of goo run by machines, Inception said you are dreaming right now and people are trying to steal your secrets right now. What’s the next thing? The closest would be avatar but it’s just a mix of inception and matrix
I remember the rave scene feeling like it was 10 minutes. When I went back and rewatched it recently, I timed it, and it was only like a minute and a half.
milkshape was never intended to be used in film for fricks sake
Okay I'll bite, what's that
a free 3d modelling program that someone made for editing character models for the first half-life game. It was for low poly stuff but you could do early skeletal animation (move the 'arm bone' instead of trying to select all the vertices that made up the arm) and if you animated with it you'd get the characteristic flattening/pinching of the elbow vertices as if the arm was a plastic tube.
Neo in Matrix 2 once he gets his stupid pole, is rendered with this level of early 3d bendy crapness
>milkshape
Please, elaborate
Where's the crows?
>The Matrix
Great movie. An almost perfect synthesis of original storytelling and worldvuilding coupled with tight action scenes and new technology
>The Matrix Reloaded
Okay...ish. Serviceable but not as fresh or awesome as the original. Too much time wasted on things that aren't awesome. Dumbass race scene that appeals to morons that aged like milk.
>Matrix Revolutions (or whatever the frick it was called)
Absolute dogshit. Did you like Zion and things that aren't cool man doing karate and guns? Well that's most of the movie.
>New Matrix
Didn't see it and it looks like dumb troony-shit
filtered, 3rd is obviously the best
>epic love story
>nerve wrecking ending
>lore talked about to this day
>gay le contrarian stance
Dilate
The only matrix lore talked about to this day is from the first one
The 4th one is the best.
>surface rendered inhospitable to human life
>humanity lives underground
>hiding from AI run amok
>everyone's tribal-themed minorities
matrix 3 ends with the timeline merging with our own timeline and becoming our reality to-be. The superlative form of kino
>Dumbass race scene
have a nice day
And the Animatrix?
NTA but genuinely one of the best pieces of side content ever made
>Animatrix
I did love that.
The second movie was good, but its value was contingent on the 3rd movie.. which was a letdown with a bunch of Zion shit and garbage.
The first movie was extremely tight, and and every scene was important.
>Matrix 1
absolute kino
>Matrix 2 and 3 both had decent/redeeming qualities, but overall sucked. should have been cut/reshot into 1 GOOD movie
>Animatrix, Matrix Online and Path Of Neo should have been the ONLY extended universe releases. NO sequels
>The Matrix Online
absolute soul, it was way before its time in how you could enter literally every building (granted there was an array of pre-set interiors but still).
That and dealing with loading in and rendering the environment initially with matrix code was really clever
3>2 just because it tried to create something new. 2 was just a generic action flick that didn't know how to spend its time
animatrix was superior to both and you dont even mention it
>MISSSSSSSSSSSSTER ANDERSON
ftfy
Matrix Revolutions is badly underrated. Everything about it has this beautiful fin-de-siècle quality, this sense that everything's coming to an end: a definitive, final end, which just makes the fourth one even more redundant and pointless.
the fourth one sort of misses the point, that the matrix is a bad thing. it is a direct result of troonys demanding conformity to a new system they rule over
The grit and desperation in Revolutions was a good departure from the first two where everything's stylish without breaking a sweat. It has a bunch of problems but so do the rest of the sequels
Matrix 2 was just as good as the first.
Nah it is inferior but it remains a very good flick
I am genuinely still mad about this copout 20 years later
They squeezed in an action scene whenever they had an excuse but the best premise for one in the whole sequel is right in front of them and they go "nope lol"
Never thought about it but yeah, Agent vs Agent could've been dope
I can hear this scene. 10/10 movie, incredible style.
There's literally nothing wrong with Reloaded or Revolutions.
What was Morpheus's problem in this scene? Why did he have to aggressively grope that lady as she was trying to get on the elevator?
he was in a hurry
>oh you're approaching me are you?
>stone ocean ending.webm
Based
The best scene.
this 35mm scan has the same problem as the 4K remasters, missing the green tint. the agents have green fricking suits because green is the color scheme of the matrix. smith is meant to have a black suit when he separates from the mainframe. color was so vital to the films and the remasters literally fricked it up.
If they never put the green tint in until later you can't really say it's "missing".
>missing the green tint. the agents have green fricking suits because green is the color scheme of the matrix
No. That was only added to the sequels then retconned on subsequent post sequel DVD releases. It's not present on the original film reels or the trailers. If the agents had tinted suits, all the other instances of black items would have fricked up tint due to blanket color correction when digitizing the theater reel scan. It's all consistent because the blacks were consistent. Not even the VHS release had the sickly green or teal tint that was later added, that had a tan cast.
not surprising since they retconned their own gender
>That was only added to the sequels
it's present in all 3 films you lying sack of shit
Prove it
I watched it in the theater, there was no green tint.
Agreed. There were no green suits.
I watched it like 10 times in the theaters, too. It was my favorite movie by far, and still is today. Prior to the matrix, watching a movie more than once was very rare for me.
>it's present in all 3 films you lying sack of shit
It is now. That's what I was trying to explain to you. All the movies have been regraded a half dozen times at this point. The original grade a theater goer in 1999 would have seen is very different to what ended up getting released in the trilogy box set in 2004. That's also how you know you're talking to someone who never saw the movie in theaters. Kind of like the millennials and zoomers who shit on moviegoers in the past for not "getting" bladerunner when it came out in 1982 not realizing that what they know as bladerunner post final cut is a far cry from the state it was in when it originally hit theaters.
>trilogy box set in 2004
i don't have that ultimate matrix collection that came with the model sentinel, i have the dvd that predates reloaded and revolutions and green tint is present in it
The original DVD had a beige tint.
>35mm scan is erroneously 'missing' the green tint
obvious troll post do not reply
but what if hes just moronic and open to not being moronic?
Webbums you can hear
Honestly enjoy reloaded just because it feels like it's mostly a payoff for the build up of Neo becoming "the one" in the first film. Plus the impending sense of doom with Smith, left enough tension in the plot that it was interesting to see a messiah embrace the role and then potentially still lose
>it feels like it's mostly a payoff for the build up of Neo becoming "the one" in the first film.
I like the sequels but one thing I don't like is that they immediately nerf Neo with one line.
>Hm, upgrades.
Would have been too hard to write such a powerful character I guess.
He's just too much of a jerkoff
>you didn't get his big words
I got his big words, the problem is he continued at length and actually had very little to say
>he's an antagonist, you're supposed to hate him
People hated Cypher and it was a treat watching him chew the scenery and get btfo, people don't even hate Smith at all, but this motherfricker was just "Nope, I don't even want you to be in the movie, frick you"
>almost got a cool gnostic parable trilogy but the studio freaked out after the reception of the second movie and literally told the wachowskis to make it into the most Hollywood cliche'd piece of trash they can
What? The second and third film were filmed at the same time to save money.
Why didn't they dodge?
the real question is how did he manage to never once hit morpheus
>am I being detained?
literally all neo had to do
where can i get the 35mm scans
I'm not sure. I got mine years ago from a mega link I think on a 35mm interest forum. That link is almost certainly gone now. The filename I have is "The.Matrix.1999.35mm.1080p.Cinema.DTS.v2.0.mkv" if you want to go digging around.
Always reminds me of the Crow for some reason.
Looks like Bully on the PS2
this shit was absolutely cutting-edge when it came out, zoomie. it melted my brain so hard that i didn't realize the plot sucked
That shot in particular has been criticized since the movie came out, I'm fairly certain. If they made it again today though I don't think they'd get it much better. CGI still looks like that.
The whole trilogy is good, and "only the first one is good" is a meme because people were too moronic to understand what was going on.
We got to see two directors, siblings, make a trilogy blockbuster with an original IP. Learn to appreciate a good thing.
Even if we entertain that the last 2 films were bad, that's the risk of letting creators do their thing and try new things. Sometimes they miss the mark. Don't complain about homogenized schlop if you put that expectation on films.
You get schlop because you want schlop. Chow down piggy.
YWNBAW
That’s true
Will we ever get a new movie that says reality is not wat it seems? The matrix said we r inside a tube of goo run by machines, Inception said you are dreaming right now and people are trying to steal your secrets right now. What’s the next thing? The closest would be avatar but it’s just a mix of inception and matrix
Were there ever any Matrixcons?
>MINSTREL ANDRESON
wut
Second movie is a 8/10…
…if you remove the rave scene. With the race scene it’s a 7.2/10
I remember the rave scene feeling like it was 10 minutes. When I went back and rewatched it recently, I timed it, and it was only like a minute and a half.
I don't like it, the finished product is rhythmic genius.
love me some don and it has good parts to it but the final version of burly brawl is too kino to be topped
I can't tell if that score is shit or if there's no rescuing these shit scenes
Did you just ASSUME his gender?
everyone out here talking about the matrix movies without talking about the upcoming matrix5 and how good it will be
>the green tint shills are here