Name a more polarizing piece of movie trivia

Name a more polarizing piece of movie trivia

  1. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    People who understand Watchmen know this to be true. Brainlets who have never even read Watchmen disagree.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the inherent fascism of superhero comicbook characters
        Ah yes the inherent fascism of a bunch of characters made by garden gnomes who are known for their strong fascist leanings
        Go to bed alan

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          >and the inherent fascism of superhero comicbook characters
          are the fascists in the room with us now, anon

          >doesn't understand how vigilantes acting outside the law to punish "degenerates" appeals to a certain type of authoritarian fetishist
          actually, I don't believe you, because if you've been on this board for more than a month you know how much Rorschach gets sucked off here for being le based trad killer of freaks
          also the whole police obsession with The Punisher is a bit sussy baka

          so yeah, you're being disingenuous little shits, no one is that low IQ as to genuinely not get the obvious connection

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            > for being le based trad killer of freaks
            How is that a bad thing?

            • 12 months ago
              Anonymous

              did I say it was?
              You seem very defensive about this...
              first going with
              >no one even thinks superheroes have anything to do with fetishizing vigilante justice and authoritarianism
              and now
              >yeah and what's wrong with fetishizing vigilante justice and authoritarianism?

              can't exactly keep your story straight, but what else can be expected from someone speaking in bad faith?

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                You obviously implied it. Why be disingenuous?

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            Can you define fascism for me?

            • 12 months ago
              Anonymous

              Economic liberaralism
              Social conservativism
              It’s basically just authoritarian centrism.

              I’m NTA though, so I would expect far more buzzwords in his definition.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                I know what it is, I really just wanted his definition lol

            • 12 months ago
              Anonymous

              Fascism (/ˈfæʃJzəm/ FASH-izəm) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and the economy that rose to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                This isn't how Mussolini describes fascism and he invented it.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                Fascism was the Italian branch of the Third Position. It set out to organize society in a way where everything works towards the good and glory of the state.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                ok?

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                people get too caught up on the superficial elements of the regime

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            >fascism is when you act agaist the law
            >fascism is when you act outside the state

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the only fascism possible is the specific one that was aimed against garden gnomes, therefore garden gnomes are immune to it!!!!!!!!!!!!
          That's like saying that racism is hatred towards black people, so black people who don't hate other black people can't be racist.

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          garden gnomes are super fascist, just look at israel's immigrant policy

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          >garden gnomes
          Superheroes were made by people who weren’t talented enough to get newspaper strips
          The fact that a lot of them were garden gnomes is secondary

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          >garden gnomes can't be fascist
          moron israel is a fucking ethnostate. garden gnomes are arguably the most fascists of people. They're the ones who subvert entire nations by appealing to government institutions to enforce everything from forcing genital mutilation to arresting people for Holocaust denial. I'm willing to be you're a fucking garden gnome for even bringing garden gnomes up like they are incapable of (insert evil here). Best case scenario you're a dumb goy. Worse case scenario you're a fucking garden gnome who dodged the ovens.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >and the inherent fascism of superhero comicbook characters
        are the fascists in the room with us now, anon

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >take my vigilante in ridiculous outfits SERIOUSLY!
        lmfao get a life idiot

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >RORSCHACH IS LE BADASS

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >RORSCHACH IS LE BADASS

        I disagree with Rorschach (Ozymandias did nothing wrong) but it's hard to deny that he was a badass

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ozymandias was wrong, but history dictates that might makes right "in the end"

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Ozymandias was wrong
            About what?

            • 12 months ago
              Anonymous

              In the general sense of murder of innocents

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                The survival of the species is the absolute highest moral imperative. This is natural law.
                Can you tell me why it's wrong to kill millions in order to save billions - without appealing to any books of Semitic fairy tales?

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                Our species functions as a collective organism. Just as in our individual bodies, we have a duty to eliminate parts of ourselves when doing so aids in the survival of the whole.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                Lol you’d probably pull the switch on the trolley too, because “hurr 5 more than 1”

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                Hell yeah I would.
                The only people who wouldn't are cowards.
                Too afraid or too weak to shoulder the moral burden.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, pulling the lever is actually the only morally wrong action.
                You seem to literally be on the spectrum, and thus reducing ethics to a utilitarian math formula suits you.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >No, pulling the lever is actually the only morally wrong action.
                Why? Morally wrong according to what logic?

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                The survival of the SELF is the highest moral imperative. Muh community, muh species is cope. I'd go AWOL if i got conscripted.
                Morality comes from justice. Right and wrong. Aggressor and victim. Unprovoked violence is wrong, even if the result is "good". And you dont even know if the result is "good" or even justified. Nothing ever ends Adrian.
                Reducing salvation of humanity to a ratio/numbers game is flawed. Corrupting that logic to a survival of race, asians are the most deserving of life, and what race has the smallest comparative population that should be sacrificed? hmmmmmmm

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >how can you tell I’m a psychopath?

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Why yes, i am a stepfather to 8 of Chad's children! I have a moral imperative to secure the survival of our species, they'd wither and die if i didnt do my duty!

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                Worship your chains slave

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                autism? check
                lolbertarian? check

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why dont you have a nice day and let 5 homeless people move into your abode then? Its gonna be the hottest summer on record, they're definitely gonna die from heatstroke! One for many right?
                Fucking collectivismcucks never follow through

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The survival of the SELF is the highest moral imperative.
                Individualism is poison. It leads to societies of miserable, rootless consumers.
                We find meaning and fulfillment through our folk.
                >Unprovoked violence is wrong, even if the result is "good"
                Why?
                >Corrupting that logic to a survival of race, asians are the most deserving of life
                Ultimately, whoever fights the hardest for survival is the most deserving of life.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                That’s the irony is the best society for any individual to live in is a high trust society, which ironically is the easiest for psychopathics to exploit. This necessitates the creation of a Guardian class whose primary purpose is to remove them.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >which ironically is the easiest for psychopathics to exploit.
                I don't think this is necessarily true. People are more likely to turn a blind eye to such behavior in a low trust society, since they feel no civic duty to prevent it.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                Fair point, but I would say moreso that a low trust society is where that behavior has become the norm. But in general it’s represented by the prisoner’s dilemma. Simple scenario: You’re in a culture where lying is an unthinkable action. Imagine the advantages you could garner simply by lying.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                I get where you're coming from
                Social safeguards should be in place to prevent predatory behavior

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I'd go AWOL if i got conscripted.
                Then you get executed for desertion. Gene pool improved. Simple as.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                this is what americans actually believe

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ikr the movie is way better

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        thats it? people think thats deep?

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          comic book nerds are not the brightest bunch

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          there's a magic in finding something provocative within something so low brow and overly consumed

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >RORSCHACH IS LE BADASS
        yeah, pretty much

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Snyder took it all at face value and was all RORSCHACH IS LE BADASS
        He didn't but you did, idk how you could look at Rorschach in that movie and think 'this guy is A-ok'.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        He is rather badass tho

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Watchmen is a critique of Reagan-era American machismo and the inherent fascism of superhero comicbook characters. Snyder took it all at face value and was all RORSCHACH IS LE BADASS

        >p pathetic

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >superheroes are fascists
        way too oversimplified. moore's rorschach was a criticism of steve ditko's objectivist characters. dr manhattan was completely amoral and detached from humanity. silk spectre and nite owl were sexual deviants and fetishists. comedian was a nihilist even though he tried to have a moral compass occasionally. ozymandias was a megalomaniac, narcissist and consequentialist who was willing to kill people to achieve his goal.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >people mad at Zack Snyder for Watchmen because they didn't use the squid ending.
        I'll agree Doctor Manhattan was a poor choice but it didn't complete ruin the whole movie for me. The only other bad thing was music placement choice. I'm pretty sure using "99 Luftballoonn," though appropriate for the theme of the movie, was not a good idea to put it during a dating scene.

        I think your the brainlet here because he wasn't portrayed as a saint in the movie.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        perhaps snyder just realized that moore is a brainlet slave moralist and decided to make a better story

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      it was a good movie

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        I thought so too in 2009.
        Tried to rewatch it recently, could not finish it.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      I read it and it was as good of an adaptation as the comic book could have gotten. Reminder that not being a completely brain dead picture story does not make something literature, and only coping /toon/cksuckers would disagree.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah no.

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not an argument.

          >whole point of the fight scenes is that they're ugly and uncinematic and that the people in them are old and schlubby
          >WOWOWOW 300 STYLE CGI EPIC FIGHTS OMGGGGGGGGGGGGG

          sure thing bro

          Complete bullshit, all of the fight scenes are basically a frame by frame adaptation, just with the usual Snyder action style tacked on.

          Nothing in the original suggests that any of the characters are "old and schlubby" when it comes to beating the fuck out of some low level thugs or cops, that's just your inner contrarian desperately trying to come up with details that aren't there to keep hating the movie.

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            >all of the fight scenes are basically a frame by frame adaptation

            >opening fight Comedian vs Assassin
            >comic shows a punch and a kick and then the Comedian is thrown out of the window
            >movie fight with much slow motion where the Comedian throws his cup, then fires a gun, gets slammed into a wall, there's an exchange of 17+ punches, then a brutal knee, then there's more punching including through walls, Comedian gets thrown into a table that shatters, gets thrown around again implausibly far, throws a knife and then another, which is caught and thrown back; he picks up a third knife and there's an extended punch/knife-stab fight (from the sound effects, it's another 17 hits or attempts), then the Comedian's hand gets brutally broken, he gets slammed through a table, and finally thrown out of the window

            • 12 months ago
              Anonymous

              And all of that was fucking kino
              TYBZS

            • 12 months ago
              Anonymous

              this.
              it gives away the twist in the first scene because it establishes that whoever killed the Comedian is a god-tier physical combatant and there are only a few characters in the world who are on that level.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >it gives away the twist in the first scene because it establishes that whoever killed the Comedian is a god-tier physical combatant and there are only a few characters in the world who are on that level.
                to be fair, movie ozy doesn't look like he could do that shit

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >whole point of the fight scenes is that they're ugly and uncinematic and that the people in them are old and schlubby
        >WOWOWOW 300 STYLE CGI EPIC FIGHTS OMGGGGGGGGGGGGG

        sure thing bro

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >i skimmed through the word balloons and it matches the film script so therefore the film adaptation is good
        braindead snydercuck trying to drag the comics down to his level

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          ...it's a comic, retard. It's for children. No amount of edge or pseudery is gonna change that.

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            same applies to the film, except snyder does not have that level of self awareness

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      what is there to understand?
      >who watches the watchmen, they are too powerful for their own good

  2. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Zack Snyder doesn't understand anything
    You need to be an edgy teenager to enjoy his movies

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      or a shitskin

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        moron your post makes no sense at all.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You need to be an edgy teenager to enjoy his movies
      >he said in a thread about Watchmen

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Zack Snyder doesn't understand anything
      This
      The first rule of capeshit is to have hot women, what audience will want to see skeletons in every movie? Exactly, nobody went to see

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        Top row
        > no
        > yes
        > yes
        > only because she was my childhood crush

        Bottom row
        > no
        > yes
        > no
        > no

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          Dis bro really said no to margot and yes to gadot

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            Correct.

            • 12 months ago
              Anonymous

              Leaving alone the obvious facial mogging, even in the fridge department margot is a double door and gal is some mini used by college dorm students

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >even in the fridge department margot is a double door and gal is some mini used by college dorm students
                i haven't laughed at anything on the internet in a long time, but this got me good.
                thank you anon.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        For me, its the lithe and feminine creature second from the right on the bottom

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        Am I the only one that finds Amy way more attractive than the rest?

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      YOU TAKE THAT BACK THIS MAN IS A SCHOLAR AND A PHILOSPHER

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        He's right, you know?

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        Based Snyder dabbing on comics autists

  3. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fans have no say in storytelling or production.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      which is why Snyder should have taken Alan Moore's advice and never made Watchmen

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        Zack Snyder should have never made movies, period. He Should have just stayed to music videos. All his movies feel like music videos gone sentient anyways.

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          >gone sentient
          not at all

  4. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Listen to the master explain why it sucked.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Damn I remember this. Absolutely based.

  5. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    "Fans of Watchman Don't Understand Watchman, or They'd Realize it's not that Good".

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Alan Moore is the smartest retard I’ve ever heard speak. His stories and characters are interesting but god damn he is bad at reading contacts.

  6. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Zack Snyder doesn't understand 4:3 aspect ratio
    Now I agree.

  7. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's true though. Snyder is a well-known retard.

  8. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    But he just made frame for frame comic adaptation?
    He even replaced alien threat with a more credible one - dr manhatn

  9. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just thought the movie was boring

  10. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    owl plane was pretty cool

  11. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Glad there are a few intelligent people awake right now. The film was a pretty comic-accurate depiction visually, but thematically it was a complete fucking mess. Snyder is too optimistic for this sort of heady material, and it shows. It's actually amazing how hard it misses the point while also still looking good.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fucking this. Its only good for panel to panel recreation but fails at other fundamental things. Should've been a limited animated series.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fucking this. Its only good for panel to panel recreation but fails at other fundamental things. Should've been a limited animated series.

      You guys keep saying this, but what exactly? What themes did he miss specifically? What did he "misunderstand" about Watchmen? How could he have made it into a more accurate adaptation that it already was (with the exceptions being replacing the squid monster and removing the psychiatrist subplot, I agree he shouldn't have done those)?

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >extended sequence of hallway fisticuffs not relevant to plot
        >leaves out the entire tales of black freighter
        >no giant squid alien
        >no dr malcolm long
        >"nothing ever ends" line is given to silk spectre instead of manhattan
        >no newsman bernie
        the movie had absolutely no subtlety, capeshit adaptations usually have this problem

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          black freighter sucks

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          Tales of the Black Freighter are in the extended (almost 3-hour long) edition. The rest I agree with, though I still don't see how they make the film a terrible adaptation, Game of Thrones had 10 times as many things cut and the first 5 seasons are praised as a good adaptation of the books.
          >the movie had absolutely no subtlety
          Again with the fucking euphemisms, this is what I mean. How?

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        oh we can break it down scene by scene if you want

        >movie opens with comedian being attacked by mystery man. they fight. comedian almost holds up on his own until it's obvious he's clearly overpowered
        >in the comic the detectives speculate there was a fight but we see that's not the case. blake didn't fight: he KNEW who was coming for him and why, and he was a broken man who almost welcomed death after having everything he believed in smashed in by a joke too cruel yet too right that he understood perfectly
        tl,dr: mystery man beats an old man to death vs neatly choreographed fight scene with sappy music because that's cool

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          It was cool. I'm not going to pretend it wasn't.

  12. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand the notion that Zack Snyder wrote the Watchmen movie. David Hayter and some other guy who rewrote his screenplay did. What Snyder did was rework the ending and reinterpret the visual style of the movie to focus on comic book films instead of comic books, and wallow in orgies of ultraviolence as an aesthetic.

    Just because you change something doesn't mean you "don't understand that". That's a cope from fanboys.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >wallow in orgies of ultraviolence as an aesthetic
      You say this like it was some intentional commentary for Watchmen, yet every single one of Snyder's movies is like this. He's just a airhead who likes cool stylised violence, it's not deep.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >yet every single one of Snyder's movies is like this.
        Of course they are. Look at how The Snyder Cut added extra violence to the Wonder Woman museum scene in post, because he wanted to make a statement about how humans can't possibly defy the Gods. Violence is an aesthetic. And aesthetics are meaning.

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          hahaha

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Violence is an aesthetic. And aesthetics are meaning.

          Dude, that's like deep bro

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            this but unironically

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >He's just a airhead who likes cool stylised violence
        Sounds like he understands his audience

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        Bro youre so smart, thats why the movies you make are so much better than his!

  13. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    the first fight scene shows that
    watchmen was supposed to be a real world and only dr manhattan would have powers and the fight at the beginning of the movie is unreal and absurd and snyder once again brought actors that shouldn't be there, spectral II should be 15 years old and not 32, his fiancée's hate loses impact because she gets angry that he dumped her for a woman half her age, snyder ias a hack and dumb

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Huh? Silk Specter is in her 30s by the the events of the story. Her glory days are behind her, but no so much that she is middle-aged yet.

  14. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    The movie is better than the manga. I'm not convinced the manga is even really 'about' anything except subversive capeshit

  15. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Zack Snyder blows

  16. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Watchmen is capekino
    He filtered millions

  17. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    wasn't the movie basically 1:1 scene to scene to comic book anyway except the boogeyman in the end?
    I watched the movie and cartoon series (basically narrated original comic) and I would swear it was almost the same thing except for stylization

  18. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Zack Snyder's Watchmen felt like if Frank Miller had done the story. Also there were multiple scenes where Snyder didn't understand the connection between the visuals and the words.

  19. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    The original comic was criticizing superheroes while the film was adoring them.

  20. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Zack is literally fucking retarded

  21. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Americans never understand Moore

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Shit like this is why a movie can never do it justice. Watchmen is a comic book story through and through. The more you get the medium, the more you appreciate what a masterpiece Bolland drew.

  22. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    bump

  23. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've never seen this acknowledged by another person: but I really hate when Silk Spectre is talking to Rorschach and she says "I've been using my real name a while now, try it". Except she doesn't pause at the comma and just smashes right through it. How does the director not teach this retard what a comma is.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://clip.cafe/watchmen-2009/the-comedians-dead/
      You're right, that's really bad
      Also props to them for actually making Rorschach a manlet

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Except she doesn't pause at the comma.
      Wow movie ruined, valid criticisms all round folks. Snyder truly is a FOOL

  24. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    He doesn't. He just looked at the pretty pictures and thought "oooooooh" like a 9 year old.

  25. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Snyder's ultraviolence highlights a society coming to pieces on the eve of doomsday. Snyder is a midwit but he's still smarter than the midwits who didn't notice this.

  26. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bcjvhjb

  27. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >alan moore said comic unadaptable
    >it adapts fine, assuming you want it to bomb on arrival

  28. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    snyder thinks he was being subversive because he fought to make sure the film included the "god exists and he's american" line. then you see his superman jesus and it all starts to make sense

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      jesus wasn't american

  29. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >meant to be a satire
    >the director takes it seriously

    Snyder is an autist

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      There are satirical elements in Watchmen but the characters and philosophical dilemmas are still taken pretty seriously

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        The whole thing is a satire. Ozymandias is treated in the same way that the general who tries to start a war with russian in Dr. Strangelove is. These are people that have such a feeling of self-importance that they feel they can make the decisions which affect the rest of the world. People like this should be rejected instead of revered including the so called 'heroes'.

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Ozymandias is treated in the same way that the general who tries to start a war with russian in Dr. Strangelove is.
          Snyder even referenced that movie visually.

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            Visually but not thematically. It should be absurd. He instead treats them like greek gods.

            • 12 months ago
              Anonymous

              Thematically, too. You just missed it.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                Snyder is way too interested in how the supes crotches look like to understand absurdity. To me, its like the Top Gun or Elm Street 2 of movies. The writer understood how gay it was but the director didnt.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Snyder gave Ozymandias Batman & Robin bdsm nipples
                >Anon doesn't think Snyder understands the absurdity of the text

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          there's a difference between presenting the characters in a critical light and not taking them / the themes seriously

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            People believe the ending is a moral dilemma when it is the most clear cut thing imaginable. That is the fault of the director.

            • 12 months ago
              Anonymous

              it's not clear cut at all, neither in the movie or the book

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                Its pretty clear cut in the book unless alan moore thinks it okay to kill millions of people.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                if it's clear cut you shouldn't have to appeal to what the creator may or may not believe
                how does the story itself present ozy as being wrong

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                Because he murdered millions to achieve his utopia? Why is it so hard to understand why that is wrong and how it touches on theme of placing decisions in the hands of those who believe themselves to be serving a higher purpose.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                you have autism

            • 12 months ago
              Anonymous

              >People believe the ending is a moral dilemma when it is the most clear cut thing imaginable.
              What part was clear cut anon? The genocide or betraying the personal beliefs of every single character or lying to the world or

  30. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    the movie and every watchmen media after the original comic is utter garbage

  31. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    The big thing most comic book fags miss about the movie is that Zack Snyder wanted Watchmen to be a commentary on movies. Not just comic book movies, but action movies as well since this is about vigilante justice. But also any other kind of movies.

    >Production Designer Alex McDowell will grant that much. "For Zack, it was really important to hit the 30 images that the fans carry with them from the graphic novel. And for himself: to know that those big beats would be respectful. But we made some big changes in the threads between those. One of the huge contributions Zack made to this -- which will really be apparent when you watch the film -- is that there are layers and layers of pop cultural reference on top of the Watchmen reference and on top of the pop cultural references already embedded in [the graphic novel]," he says. "Because we have the hindsight of 20 years and the knowledge that Apocalypse Now is embedded in the consciousness of the audience, if you want to play "The Ride of the Valkyries" over Vietnam, you've added an entire other reference layer that puts you in another space."
    >McDowell says they were empowered by Snyder to go deeper and deeper into the pop cultural references and to even add their own, including Taxi Driver, Dr. Strangelove and The Man Who Fell to Earth (whose table tennis room was McDowell's personal contribution to Dr. Manhattan's baroque abode but which did not make the theatrical cut).
    >"What we were able to do was extract all of that richness from the graphic novel and really put it in… There are all of these Easter Egg clues and I think it's going to be a way of reading this film that is going to last for years: there are clues that are deep, deep, deep within it. It's going to be a frame-by-frame analysis of it."

    The over-the-top action sequences with kung-fu and slow-motion is there to mock other action movies. Though in this movie it is made extra shocking and gory to show ugly violence can be.

  32. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    snyder's daughter committed suicide cause she was too embarassed of his shitty films.

  33. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that the studio hated Snyder for not making the movie a generic action-oriented capeshit movie. They hated the idea of several cuts and wanted to take out the best scenes.

    >Still, Snyder concedes, there were crucial moments that he would not compromise when the studio suggested certain cuts. "And, of course, the funny thing is that when I was getting ready to shoot the movie, we had updated the scripted to equal the storyboards, and they were like, 'We've looked at the script and we feel we've identified three areas where you can cut: The Comedian's funeral, Manhattan goes to Mars -- nothing happens there -- and you don't need to interrogate Rorschach -- you don't need to know anything about his backstory.' I said, 'Look, if you cut out all those things, which you absolutely could do... I would wager a lot that this would just be a plot-driven movie... and this is not the movie I want to make'.

  34. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Snyderfags are autistic atheists who will be next in line for the Gulag given their ambivalence about genocide.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >gulag
      but communism were the autistic atheists supporting genocide

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        Who do you think the dear leaders sent first?

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          Political dissidents and lumpen intellectuals.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Snyder is right-wing, I doubt the average edgelord calling him a hack, someone who "doesn't understand" etc. online is a conservative.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hes an objectivist. Hes only interested in what best serves him. He'd be a communists if the state gave millions to make movies and a luxury apartment.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Snyderfags are autistic atheists
      It's literally the oppostie. Snyderchads are deeply spiritual while snyder haters are fedora tipping redditors.

  35. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Last attempt: People who don't like Snyder always use the same criticisms: he doesn't get it, he doesn't understand the themes of Watchmen, only morons like his movies, etc. What are those things he didn't understand? What would a Watchmen movie made by a director who "gets it" look like? What makes Watchmen a "dumbed-down" version of the comic?

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      The film revels in the action, glorifying the violence and justifying the assault and battery perpetrated by the cishet white protags as a necessary evil. The comic is muted and allows us to see the violence for what it is: the gross intolerance of fascists, the ugliness of the bully made temporarily sympathetic by the cycle of violence that births them. When Hollis Mason is killed by the Knot-Tops, it's not supposed to be tragic. You're supposed to think
      > I'm glad that fascist got his comeuppance. What an ironic death.
      The comic hates the reader for misunderstanding it. The film rewards misunderstanding.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Hollis Mason
        >fascist
        why, because he was a policeman in the 1930s? lmao you're as delusional as the snydercucks. he was one of the nicest minutemen. only regrettable thing he did was kick out that lesbo from the team. he was the closest to a real hero the series got. the reason his death was ironic was because it was a case of mistaken identity since he had passed his mantle on to the second nite owl, and the mob beat him with his own trophy. and yes, it's tragic to see an old man getting assaulted like that, you soulless freak

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          He was a fascist. He deserved to be beaten to death, and the children that found his body should've pissed on his corpse.

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            >He was a fascist
            again, why? nowhere in the comic is he anything other than a nice old man recalling his glory days, and the memoir passages show he was a decent young man with well adjusted morals.
            you accuse the movie of glorifying violence yet you want to desecrate someone's corpse? is this the birth of an epic new horseshoe theory, where snydercucks and snyder haters are basically the same?

            • 12 months ago
              Anonymous

              Because he perpetuated violence as a nonmask and mask. He outed vulnerable minorities in his book and used slurs against queer-coded characters.
              >PoliceMAN
              >SuperHERO
              These are code for fascist, in case you missed it.

              [...]
              He's trolling, don't take him seriously.

              No.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                Dude you're neither funny nor convincing.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >fascism is... le bad
                grow up

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, it's bad. Ever wonder why everyone IRL hates you and everything you embody, why they blame you and your ilk for every atrocity? It's because fascism is bad.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                that's just like your opinion man

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >my grandma is... LE BAD

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                your grandma deserves death? don't be so heartless

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                no you just don't get it
                not wanting people to die = fascism and bad
                cheering on people dying = wholesome and tolerant

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                those gosh darn fascists and their morals, s.m.h

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                I would sacrifice everyone I know to kill every white man globally. Chew on that, and realize that that's not some fringe view. Its how the majority feel. Maybe then you'll realize how much we hate you.

                >my grandma is... LE BAD

                Yes.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                >watchmen adaptation glorifies violence
                >unlike me who just wants to commit mass genocide including my own family
                fucking nutcase lmao

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                To bring an end to fascism, racism, colonialism, imperialism, climate change, economic collapse and hate crime? Absolutely. It's the only way to achieve an equitable, self-sustaining existence. White men are the root cause. Much like Ozymandias, it's for the greater good.

                >I would sacrifice everyone I know to kill every white man globally. Chew on that, and realize that that's not some fringe view. Its how the majority feel. Maybe then you'll realize how much we hate you.

                Don’t cut yourself on all that edge, friend.

                >edge
                This is mainstream. Every PoC you come across thinks this way.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                jokes on you, I don't come across any pocs, place I live is fully white

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                the final redpill for ending fascism is ending your own life. go on, tie the noose

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                Don’t cut yourself on all that edge, friend.

              • 12 months ago
                Anonymous

                oh god so many words. just say he kicked the lesbian out of the team. shut the fuck up, it was the 30s, if you consider that fascist, then your grandma is also one

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        so the movie is based and the comic is cringe
        got it

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >cishet white
        Oh good, I can’t ignore the rest of your gay ass post.

  36. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    I though he did a decent job for something so massive to tell in one movie.

  37. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >"understand" a dumb comic book about people with super powers
    lol manchild

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >comic book about people with super powers
      more like one guy with superpowers who is completely alien towards humanity now, and the rest of the vigilantes are messed up psychos. it's actually a pretty relevant response to modern soibois who worship capeshit.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >"UHHHH WHAT IF SUPERHERO BAD?"
        wow, so cool and original

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          yes it unironically was cool and original back then, thanks for agreeing with me. yet dc and marvel only learned the worst and most superficial lessons that watchmen had to offer. it continues to be one of its kind and no comic since then has been more influential

  38. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    i think i'm having a stroke
    the letters in the OP image looked like German

  39. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I would sacrifice everyone I know to kill every white man globally. Chew on that, and realize that that's not some fringe view. Its how the majority feel. Maybe then you'll realize how much we hate you.

  40. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Zack Snyder perfectly understood Watchmen and that's why he realized the original ending was dumb.

  41. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    people who understand watchmen know that it is a comicbook. the movie did turn out way better than i expected, zack snyder can make a really terrible movie if all goes wrong

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