Teach women to be assertive in this situation. Say no and leave. Having second thoughts and blubbering around makes it all sound like its just "regret sex" trying to be retold as rape.
>And she did try to leave.
The first level is "no".
The second level is leaving, but with the awareness you are under physical threat, dropping any concern for appearing awkward or rude, with the willingness to physically defend yourself in the moment.
This is the part where educated, polite people freeze up then pray TALKING REASONABLY will save them (before the inevitable physical victimization), because a childhood of being told "talk it out, use your words" atrophied necessary self defense instincts.
Adults lie to children about this because we don't want all of you beating the living shit out of each other every day at school, but we're doing kids a disservice not to at the very least teach them how to make it clear to an attacker they aren't getting off easy and there will be trouble if they start any.
>When they do'nt even name the person
That's even worse because they don't want to actually confront the b***h and drag it to court because they know they have no ledge to stand on legally.
No. I see plenty of victimhood in right wing circle too.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nobody on the right humblebrags about being raped, that's exclusively a leftist quality, because false victimhood is the social currency of leftist circles.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Nobody on the right humblebrags about being raped
Neither the left.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>because false victimhood is the social currency of leftist circles.
There is plenty of victimhood in right wing too, anon.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I think there may be a difference between demographic replacement and retroactively deciding sex you didn't enjoy was rape.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Actually, not that much, seeing that both are fake things right-wingers complain about.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You seem like someone interested in having a level discussion based on facts and figures.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>immigration crisis and the U.S. becoming less than 50% white since the 1970s is imaginary
it's both imaginary and a good thing it's happening chud
You know adding things to something does not results in the first thing being there being replaced.
Change in proportion doesn't mean anything has been removed.
2 years ago
Anonymous
lol, tell that to the natives
2 years ago
Anonymous
No, you see, for the natives, there had to be active elimination and persecution.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>immigration crisis and the U.S. becoming less than 50% white since the 1970s is imaginary
2 years ago
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it's both imaginary and a good thing it's happening chud
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah, and yer a gay.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You know you are not making a point posting a drawing of what a right winger imaging leftists to be, right?
2 years ago
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But you do look like that.
2 years ago
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>imaging
its observation
2 years ago
Anonymous
quit shilling your terrible fricking webcomic
there's a reason I beat '4 panels max' into stonetoss
2 years ago
Anonymous
This is unbelievably gay. I don’t think I could of made a more queer comic.
2 years ago
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>Nobody on the right humblebrags about being raped
"I'M A TRAD CHRISTIAN I'M OPPRESSED EVERY DAY BY THIS SOCIETY WHERE I REPRESENT THE MAJORITY"
this is the same thing >but that's actually true so--
this is the same fricking thing, it's claimed victimhood when the worst thing that happened to you this week was someone asked you to wear a mask when entering an establishment and you sperged out about your civil liberties
>False victimhood is the social currency of leftist circles
The woman who claimed to have been raped by those black kids walking across the street in Scottsboro, she was clearly a leftist
I'm going to be really honest here. I'm a virgin (I know, ha ha).
But I'm not an Incel, I don't feel comfortable having sex because of things like this. I know what consent is and I know what rape is but then you get situations like this where it's such a murky grey area (is she just letting him frick her because she's depressed/jealous of her sister, if she fights back it's be really awkward with the guy).
I'm genuinely afraid that If I convince a woman to sleep with me (lets be honest, probably through pity) I'm somehow violating her and I don't want to "be that guy".
>oh I ll flirt with him >I will lead him on >I will take him into my fricking bedroom >Im dropping my spaggethi as a virgin that I am >I let him pop my cherry
Somehow this is rape.
lol
lmao
>that >rape
You know what fine, but the law is really going to have to differentiate it and dole out punishments accordingly. Because this is WAY different than drugging someone or popping out of the bushes rape.
we're going to need 1st ~ 3rd degree rape, and "pussyslaughter"
>flirt
studies time and again show literally no one is capable of identifying flirting accurately. And it means interested in the person, not interested in sex right now with a stranger you don't know well enough yet. >I will lead him on
This is the cope line narcissists always say when they pushed someone around and got called out.
>YOU GAVE ME A BONER IT'S SEX UNDER THE NEED
You aren't a Syrian immigrant in Germany anon, sometimes you don't get laid and the world doesn't end >BUT THAT'S NOT FAIR
Sex is that thing where both people trust each other enough to do it of their own free will, they're both trying to arouse, please and satisfy each other, that's why we used to call it lovemaking
It's a shitload of emotions and trust mixed with some common sense but what it ISN'T is, "I/you did X, therefore you have to frick me without complaint" which is arguably how the other 99% of our lives go but NOT HERE
If it were like everything else it wouldn't be special; yes you jump through more hoops than your partner but welcome to courting you moron, you're both auditioning for relationships here
If you just need to get off pay a prostitute, this isn't complicated
That reminds me >Be stupid 20-something >Wanna party and shit >Flirt with some guy >He takes me up to his room >Pretend to need to use the bathroom real quick >Head out his bathroom window and completely ghost him after pretending to want to frick him
Am I in the wrong for doing shit like this?
Truthfully you’re not missing out on much, if you feel like it’s more trouble than it’s worth, you don’t have to have sex. It only has so much value placed on it because our primitive brains are genetically hardwired to want to reproduce/start families. Some don’t feel this urge or see it as necessary which is totally fine imho. Other people are typically difficult to communicate with so it’s understandable.
Nothing murky here. If someone is crying, then it is probably rape if you have sex with them. This shit is internet stuff, and does not represent 90% of normal interaction. Its damaging your ability to have a normal relationship.
anon the guy in the comic doesn't care whether she's interested. With guys that desperate for it they're trying to make it an argument, to fight against all the things the woman says about why she's not actually interested or isn't sure if she wants it. They think that's the game, and that she doesn't matter.
Guys like that are very very terribly common too.
These things happen because there are so many guys who think this way, where they have zero interest what the girl wants because it's all about them getting lucky that night and winning at the biggest game.
But because this shit happens you're worried some woman is going to tell you later that you raped her on a whim. False rape accusations that come to light are 9/10 a situation where they didn't even have sex to begin with and it's a girl trying to get a guy she doesn't like in trouble.
Your fears are stupid and unfounded. You're not desperate for sex like either those guys or incels. You have all the porn you want. So view sex as a bonus to a relationship and not something to desperately achieve. You want a relationship with someone you like. If she's not into fricking one night when you are then go jack off. If she says no or seems uninterested tell her it's only if she wants it, and if she doesn't you can just chill together instead.
Just ignore the dumb Cinemaphile shit about "women bad, feminists are out to get me!" and just fricking look for a girlfriend rather than a frick buddy or a one night stand.
Why is this sexless hopeless moron reddit-spacing every sentence? Do you think anyone is going to read any of that when it looks like it was formatted by a moron?
>reddit spacing
frick off Cinemaphileirgin, your meme is old and fake. It's a desperate cope because you can't read, can't think, and just parrot what you're told. Go be a hopeless incel somewhere else.
anon the guy in the comic doesn't care whether she's interested. With guys that desperate for it they're trying to make it an argument, to fight against all the things the woman says about why she's not actually interested or isn't sure if she wants it. They think that's the game, and that she doesn't matter.
Guys like that are very very terribly common too.
These things happen because there are so many guys who think this way, where they have zero interest what the girl wants because it's all about them getting lucky that night and winning at the biggest game.
But because this shit happens you're worried some woman is going to tell you later that you raped her on a whim. False rape accusations that come to light are 9/10 a situation where they didn't even have sex to begin with and it's a girl trying to get a guy she doesn't like in trouble.
Your fears are stupid and unfounded. You're not desperate for sex like either those guys or incels. You have all the porn you want. So view sex as a bonus to a relationship and not something to desperately achieve. You want a relationship with someone you like. If she's not into fricking one night when you are then go jack off. If she says no or seems uninterested tell her it's only if she wants it, and if she doesn't you can just chill together instead.
Just ignore the dumb Cinemaphile shit about "women bad, feminists are out to get me!" and just fricking look for a girlfriend rather than a frick buddy or a one night stand.
This guy is saying is pretty tru, sex should be something you share with someone you really like and really likes you back.
Because you're sharing something you should be forward with them and respect what they want enough that these gray areas won't happen unless the other partner wants them to happen which they should be up front about before they happen not while they're happening unless they're fricking crazy.
Also on the plus side, not only is your scenario rare but it's even rarer that raped women go to the police and even rarer that the police even do anything about it. So there's nothing really to worry about.
I mean given the now very well known ratio of cops who are domestic abusers there's really no reason anyone would trust them. They just as often try to turn it around on the girl and give her shit for bothering them.
>mumble wait under your breath followed by sex moans >when you retell the event you loudly enunciate the wait and he responds and ignores it
Every time.
fricking this.
the amount of times the girl will go "no.. no we shouldnt" just for her to start moaning with pleasure is fricking ridiculous. Its nothing more than a fricking shit-tests to see if you are willing to take the reins of the situation as a man. If she did not wanted it, she would have had plenty of time to tell you to frick off MANY times and not, when your throbbing wiener is alredy pushing inside her.
fricking this.
the amount of times the girl will go "no.. no we shouldnt" just for her to start moaning with pleasure is fricking ridiculous. Its nothing more than a fricking shit-tests to see if you are willing to take the reins of the situation as a man. If she did not wanted it, she would have had plenty of time to tell you to frick off MANY times and not, when your throbbing wiener is alredy pushing inside her.
Are you two fine with your brain. there is no mumble, he hear her clearly and outright reply to it "Don't do that".
>mumble wait under your breath followed by sex moans >when you retell the event you loudly enunciate the wait and he responds and ignores it
Every time.
and I have both been in this situation enough times to know from expierence, how this shit works in the real world. But if you are a fricking diagnosted as an autist unable to read social queues correctly, please remove yourself from genepool.
And I would even go further and agree for you to follow your modus operandi of going full stop someone tells you "no" while her heated vegana is litterally dripping saliva on your wiener.
If it is case of you simply being inexperienced, that is fine too, I apologize. Simply know that this is how it is. The only rule you need to keep track of is "not to stick it into crazy" and you will be fine.
>and I have both been in this situation enough times to know from experience
We are talking about the comic and the correct things to do in case of doubt is to ask, just to be sure.
Female delusions after the fact
That's mostly a meme from people who fail to understand what not giving consent means.
>When they do'nt even name the person
That's even worse because they don't want to actually confront the b***h and drag it to court because they know they have no ledge to stand on legally.
That they know they can't prove it does indeed make it worse for the victim.
>But if you are a fricking diagnosted as an autist unable to read social queues correctly, please remove yourself from genepool.
"I am neurodivergent, here is my webcomic so you can understand me"
Being on the spectrum myself but discouraged from an early age not to be annoying, I don't want to understand you, I want you to be mindful in the present even if it gives you a fricking migraine to think about how you appear to others and read social cues better. Each of us has a lot on our plates and there are limits to compassion when there's another goddamned "this is what depression/autism/shyness is really like, stop being insensitive" comic telling me how to think
If you are self-aware enough to make one of these comics, you are self-aware enough not to raise your voice when you're excited about something or flap your fricking hands
Well it will always be the rapist, that’s why it’s so fricked up to blame someone for rape if they did nothing cause everyone will always believe the victim and this’s through the victims point of view so yeah the rapist is wrong. But the real victim is her sister getting her name dragged into this mud.
Because women will lie to a man's face while he's trying to escalate their relationship to a romantic/sexual one, requiring him to decode what she actually means in order to get what he wants. I've been in so many situations where I fumbled an easy lay/potential relationship because I didn't read between the lines of a what a girl was saying to me. There is an entire genre of literature trying to decipher what the frick women mean when they say X, Y or Z in situation A, B, or C.
Women aren't even overt in their attraction for men most of the goddamn time, are you really surprised when this shit happens? The second women are much more involved in courtship and less sneaky about who and what they are sexually attracted to, these kinds of situations will be much rarer.
context would be needed, because the first few panels make no sense whatsoever.
What "just happened?" Why is she laughing? Why is she, after he calls her funny, going into his arms and calling herself stupid?
Why is she implying that the only reason she doesn't want him, because she assumes he doesn't really want her and instead wants her sister?
Why is she in the next page suddenly completely against it with tears in her eyes?
None of this makes any sense
>None of this makes any sense
Kate really needed to show this to someone rational she trusted before dumping it online. A number of female creatives have come to the conclusion left-brain, critical editorial thinking is somehow a male trait oppressing them and we get muddled slop like this where the most it will ever do is fan confirmation bias instead of communicate to guys better. No minds were changed because of this comic which begs the question why it needed to be made. >rape is yucky and wrong
Knew that coming in >people need to be more assertive with potential sex partners about their needs and defend themselves
Knew that coming in >this made me really sad
I literally do not care, not when it's presented this way
>people need to be more assertive with potential sex partners about their needs and defend themselves
Sometimes people don't want to confirm that they're bing raped and there's nothing they can do about it
>Sometimes people don't want to confirm that they're bing raped
Assume no one's interested in what you want, that's how you got into this situation in the first place
Either you take the initiative or the D but that's a choice isn't it
It's the biggest pill no one wants to swallow, especially modern sexually liberated women who never learned why women historically waited until marriage to have sex
God, it's like the only way to safely have sex these days is to save it for marriage after you've met a person you know you can trust.
You two trad larping morons acting like you need to get married to have a relationship or know a person. Just fricking get a girlfriend. None of the scary stories incels tell in these threads will happen to anyone here, they're rare enough shit that it makes the news. Women don't play games about sex, that's boomer shit.
If a girl wants a one night stand she'll be on tinder and you have to play tinder games. Otherwise girls today just want a relationship first. If you don't want a relationship and just want a frick then find a hooker. Otherwise it's tinder games.
The only way problems come up is when one person views sex as the goal and the other doesn't.
>I don't know what kind of sad frick needs a book to comprehend the intrinsic inherent courtship rituals of their own species
Respectfully anon, his observation and frustration is hardly uncommon. Comedians have been telling jokes about this sort of thing for ages.
There's a Seinfeld bit about it I seem to recall.
>I don't know what kind of sad frick needs a book to comprehend the intrinsic inherent courtship rituals of their own species but let me save you some time.
The genre existing shows that most men don't have that intrinsic trait dumbass. Most mammals frick up the "mating ritual" the first few times, it's a trial and error process and lots of males usually frick up too many times to get another chance. With modern society pushing people to be online more and more and forcing this idea that masculinity in men is something to be fear and reviled, of course more and more dudes are going to have trouble navigating the "human mating ritual". >You didn't pass the initial test. You aren't a massive attractive man who she understands will bear massive attractive offspring. So now you have to tolerate her woman-homosexualry for a spell, convincing her you "get it", will cater to her whims (but at the same time not be totally spineless), aren't a chore to be around and are thus "worthy" of slipping your vienna sausage between her legs
I don't know if you're being ironic but the hoops that women force men to jump through is the reason why the situation like in OP happens. Most dudes aren't going to rape a b***h, but some dudes are definitely going to be pushy after dealing with women homosexualry over an extended period of time. Again, if women communicated more overtly, we wouldn't have anywhere near the amount of intersexual problems we have now.
>if women communicated more overtly, we wouldn't have anywhere near the amount of intersexual problems we have now
That's not going to happen because hammering you with bullshit is the closest thing they can get to testing your ability to handle duress. If you break or quit you weren't worth suffering through 9 months of pain and 18 (or more) years of bullshit for. At no point in human history has this sexual exchange been fair, so if you aren't lucky enough to be frickable on-sight for a vast majority of women then suck it up and play the game as designed.
>if a woman say no, she deserve to be raped
any chance you can give me the address of where you live?
>so if you aren't lucky enough to be frickable on-sight for a vast majority of women then suck it up and play the game as designed.
I don't have a problem with the game, I happen to be attractive enough that I get opportunities pretty regularly. My grip is women complaining about pushy men when their whole style of communication makes it so one party has to do a guessing game. Men aren't the ones complaining and making these campaigns that shames and pushes for the change of the opposite sex's behavior
>Men aren't the ones complaining
No, no plenty of men do. Not going to argue about the game at all but I see enough complain about it. Just trying to keep things on the level.
>My grip is women complaining about pushy men when their whole style of communication makes it so one party has to do a guessing game.
The purpose of this exercise is to tell her if she can't be clear to frick off. My brother's gf tried to make him jealous by seeing one of his (lower grade male) friends and he said "If you want to see Dmitri instead fine but don't play games with me, I don't have time for that shit." She stopped seeing the dildo and they've been married for 3 decades now with 4 kids all college age or older.
Courting is the place where you pretend the objective is getting laid but it's actually the two of you auditioning for a relationship, whether you agree to those terms or not. This also means "learn how to stop getting involved with stupid/crazy women"
>That's not going to happen because hammering you with bullshit is the closest thing they can get to testing your ability to handle duress.
Dear god, if you feel a relationship with your partner is a competition, just leave them. That's not how it's supposed to be. It's meant to be a mutual support and giving each other what you both want.
It literally is.
Part of getting another party to trust you is to give to them before. People who tell themselves relationships aren't a points game are lying to themselves. My wife disagrees with me too, but it every time I take it on myself to do dishes, cut the yard, clean the house, cook dinner, or give her a massage, she always does returns it in kind shortly afterwards. Once she does, I feel the need to respond in kind, because I love her.
Even if you don't want to see it that way, it is a points game. Just more of a game between two friends instead of two bitter rivals.
A lot of people claim there's a slippery slope with porn. I haven't experienced anything like that personally, but some have. It's been pretty consistent for me the past few years so I wouldn't give a ton concern. Just don't fap so much you make yourself sore or something.
Anyone else here noticing the almost non sequitur nature of the dialogue? If he'd just raped her wouldn't there be a refractory period longer than 3 minutes? >I need to catch up with the boys so let's do this thing that takes time
I'm not doubting that this guy raped her, just that the sequence doesn't make sense in context and the really wooden dialogue makes me unsympathetic to her as a storyteller. It's a hard subject to tell objectively, I get that, and I'm not even asking for him to be depicted humanely, just not this banal word salad of two people speaking orthogonally to each other.
>Anyone else here noticing the almost non sequitur nature of the dialogue?
That's normal with that type of butthole. He's there for a quick nut and then back to hanging out with the guys. He doesn't like her, doesn't want to spend time with her, snuggle, talk, waste time with emotional shit, he just wants a quick frick and he's saying what he needs to to shut her down and make her take it.
It might more realistically be that he never said it, but that the panel is there to summarize what happened after, that as soon as he was done he just left and went back to hang out with the boys.
Point noted but I also was talking about Kate's dialogue, rambling about her sister being prettier implies she can't tell what's going on or she's obtuse af.
>Kate probably doesn't remember the exact words used.
She's a writer like everyone in webcomics, she can come up with plausible dialogue instead of arranging splinters of memory and saying IT HURTS TO READ SO I DID IT RIGHT
There are standards creatives are to hold themselves to beyond what their emotional reaction to their own work is, and autobiographical work demands harsher standards if you have a modicum of shame
It's the end of the world, Cinemaphile, let me tell you more about dissociation.
So Kate's dissociating by getting up and walking away. In Olympus, the spring goddess isn't shown walking, she just envisions a safe place and she's there. They're both adults, so they walk, move to rooms, what have you.
The guy.
Reason 1. She obviously isnt into it.
Reason w. She is showing red flags before he even does anything "baww im boring, not cute, my sister is better".
The same reason girls are turned off by this shit is the reason mean should too. Low self esteem and self doubt lead ti batshit people always playing the victim, so even if it was concentual shed still make a comic about it where it looks like rape.
Redflags are not to be ignored. Always be vigilant.
T. A guy whos brother shagged crazy, told him she was crazy he fell out with me. Now 6 years later they are split up, she has stopped him access to his kids and accuses him of rape and abuse throughout the whole relationship.
The person who made the comic. Like all "autobiographical" "rape" webcomics, the content has obviously been fabricated or heavily embellished, and the comic itself only exists to garner attention and sympathy.
>Like all "autobiographical" "rape" webcomics, the content has obviously been fabricated or heavily embellished
I like how you affirm as a fact something you have no way of knowing to be true.
The sex revolution is over. If the consequence of a bad frick is a prison sentence and the sex offender's register, then get ready to go back to the days of monogamy, chaperones, and arranged marriages, because no man will take the risk
>If the consequence of a bad frick is a prison sentence and the sex offender's register
Most of the time rape litigations result in a not guilty verdict because it's actually quite difficult to prove guilt.
When people make a deposition to the police, the police often discourage to press charge as they warn it might take a big mental toll, only to result in nothing.
>The sex revolution is over. If the consequence of a bad frick is a prison sentence
They don't. this has been a fear you've been taught on the internet in order to make you distrustful and keep you angry. Most false rape accusations come from a lack of sex, where a woman who dislikes a man or for another reason accuses someone who she's neve even had a relationship with.
Meanwhile the number of men who are idiots obsessed with having sex to score points to their ego is much higher, and they'll do or say whatever they can to pressure women into having sex when they don't want to. The result is women more warry. So you can blame those idiots for making shit harder for the rest of us. But blaming women because "feminists mean" is just you falling for the incel bullshit.
>saying "wait please" with tears running down her face >being at all ambiguous
Boy, 'tism is a hell of a drug.
If by some stroke of luck you manage to bring a woman to bed and she starts crying, keep your pants on.
Maybe you just like seeing fictional female characters in dangerous and uncomfortable situations.
I wonder why you enjoy rape so much and making other people aware of all its eddies in the most violating way words can manage. Hurt people hurt people, right? Right. But I'm so tired of you. I don't want to try with you. I'd rather slam you into a wall.
I don't care why you are the way you are. I'd like to watch you get run over. I'd feel lighter.
Dont stick your dick in crazy/autistic whamen, they cant just process the dick power and go crazy or worst they became feminist
This.
When will people learn that this why false rape accusations happen. A nut isn’t worth some wahman trying to ruin your life.
>“We’ll be quick”
He was in the wrong since he’s either knowingly doing it against her will or acknowledging he’s bad at sex
She said wait.
That's explicit enough to make it rape if he continue.
This. It's a rape scene
Shame on anyone that thinks otherwise
>wait
>*counts to 1 second*
never said how long
Is there more of it.
Teach women to be assertive in this situation. Say no and leave. Having second thoughts and blubbering around makes it all sound like its just "regret sex" trying to be retold as rape.
>Say no and leave.
She did say she didn't want to. And she did try to leave.
>And she did try to leave.
The first level is "no".
The second level is leaving, but with the awareness you are under physical threat, dropping any concern for appearing awkward or rude, with the willingness to physically defend yourself in the moment.
This is the part where educated, polite people freeze up then pray TALKING REASONABLY will save them (before the inevitable physical victimization), because a childhood of being told "talk it out, use your words" atrophied necessary self defense instincts.
Adults lie to children about this because we don't want all of you beating the living shit out of each other every day at school, but we're doing kids a disservice not to at the very least teach them how to make it clear to an attacker they aren't getting off easy and there will be trouble if they start any.
The rapist.
So this all happened before Hark A Vagrent! was put up online, right?
I think so.
NEVER, and i repeat, NEVER trust an 'online rape story comic'
I've seen tabloids more truthful than those
>NEVER, and i repeat, NEVER trust an 'online rape story comic
When they do'nt even name the person, there is no reason to lie.
Pandering and to get points for being the victim.
I know someone on discord who got caught lying about rape and they would use the I was raped card anytime they didn’t like the conversation.
>When they do'nt even name the person
That's even worse because they don't want to actually confront the b***h and drag it to court because they know they have no ledge to stand on legally.
False victimhood is the social currency of leftist circles.
Not really.
Yes really.
No. I see plenty of victimhood in right wing circle too.
Nobody on the right humblebrags about being raped, that's exclusively a leftist quality, because false victimhood is the social currency of leftist circles.
>Nobody on the right humblebrags about being raped
Neither the left.
>because false victimhood is the social currency of leftist circles.
There is plenty of victimhood in right wing too, anon.
I think there may be a difference between demographic replacement and retroactively deciding sex you didn't enjoy was rape.
Actually, not that much, seeing that both are fake things right-wingers complain about.
You seem like someone interested in having a level discussion based on facts and figures.
You know adding things to something does not results in the first thing being there being replaced.
Change in proportion doesn't mean anything has been removed.
lol, tell that to the natives
No, you see, for the natives, there had to be active elimination and persecution.
>immigration crisis and the U.S. becoming less than 50% white since the 1970s is imaginary
it's both imaginary and a good thing it's happening chud
Nah, and yer a gay.
You know you are not making a point posting a drawing of what a right winger imaging leftists to be, right?
But you do look like that.
>imaging
its observation
quit shilling your terrible fricking webcomic
there's a reason I beat '4 panels max' into stonetoss
This is unbelievably gay. I don’t think I could of made a more queer comic.
>Nobody on the right humblebrags about being raped
"I'M A TRAD CHRISTIAN I'M OPPRESSED EVERY DAY BY THIS SOCIETY WHERE I REPRESENT THE MAJORITY"
this is the same thing
>but that's actually true so--
this is the same fricking thing, it's claimed victimhood when the worst thing that happened to you this week was someone asked you to wear a mask when entering an establishment and you sperged out about your civil liberties
>False victimhood is the social currency of leftist circles
The woman who claimed to have been raped by those black kids walking across the street in Scottsboro, she was clearly a leftist
I don't know what obscure event you're referencing, so yes, she was.
I see you, you fricking israelite
I'm gonna eat your fricking legs
I'm going to be really honest here. I'm a virgin (I know, ha ha).
But I'm not an Incel, I don't feel comfortable having sex because of things like this. I know what consent is and I know what rape is but then you get situations like this where it's such a murky grey area (is she just letting him frick her because she's depressed/jealous of her sister, if she fights back it's be really awkward with the guy).
I'm genuinely afraid that If I convince a woman to sleep with me (lets be honest, probably through pity) I'm somehow violating her and I don't want to "be that guy".
So I just avoid the whole thing. Am I stupid?
>like this where it's such a murky grey area
She said "wait". There is nothing murky about it.
She literally try to leave the room, saying no, why he is holding her back in the first frame.
>oh I ll flirt with him
>I will lead him on
>I will take him into my fricking bedroom
>Im dropping my spaggethi as a virgin that I am
>I let him pop my cherry
Somehow this is rape.
lol
lmao
She literally say No.
She literally say wait.
Nothing else matter, this is absolute 100% rape.
Female delusions after the fact
If all of that shit is rape then it's true and women do deserve it.
>if a woman say no, she deserve to be raped
any chance you can give me the address of where you live?
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20500
Ofiar Faszyzmu 12, 32-600 Brzezinka, Poland
The 'no' isn't in a speech bubble. Its a thought she has in her head but doesnt verbalize.
>The 'no' isn't in a speech bubble
Not a thought bubble and she also say o wait. This is rape.
>that
>rape
You know what fine, but the law is really going to have to differentiate it and dole out punishments accordingly. Because this is WAY different than drugging someone or popping out of the bushes rape.
we're going to need 1st ~ 3rd degree rape, and "pussyslaughter"
>flirt
studies time and again show literally no one is capable of identifying flirting accurately. And it means interested in the person, not interested in sex right now with a stranger you don't know well enough yet.
>I will lead him on
This is the cope line narcissists always say when they pushed someone around and got called out.
>YOU GAVE ME A BONER IT'S SEX UNDER THE NEED
You aren't a Syrian immigrant in Germany anon, sometimes you don't get laid and the world doesn't end
>BUT THAT'S NOT FAIR
Sex is that thing where both people trust each other enough to do it of their own free will, they're both trying to arouse, please and satisfy each other, that's why we used to call it lovemaking
It's a shitload of emotions and trust mixed with some common sense but what it ISN'T is, "I/you did X, therefore you have to frick me without complaint" which is arguably how the other 99% of our lives go but NOT HERE
If it were like everything else it wouldn't be special; yes you jump through more hoops than your partner but welcome to courting you moron, you're both auditioning for relationships here
If you just need to get off pay a prostitute, this isn't complicated
That reminds me
>Be stupid 20-something
>Wanna party and shit
>Flirt with some guy
>He takes me up to his room
>Pretend to need to use the bathroom real quick
>Head out his bathroom window and completely ghost him after pretending to want to frick him
Am I in the wrong for doing shit like this?
Yes, unless you're a guy, in which gay sex is a sin.
So im in the right, cool!
no, you're a gay, which is still wrong
Truthfully you’re not missing out on much, if you feel like it’s more trouble than it’s worth, you don’t have to have sex. It only has so much value placed on it because our primitive brains are genetically hardwired to want to reproduce/start families. Some don’t feel this urge or see it as necessary which is totally fine imho. Other people are typically difficult to communicate with so it’s understandable.
Nothing murky here. If someone is crying, then it is probably rape if you have sex with them. This shit is internet stuff, and does not represent 90% of normal interaction. Its damaging your ability to have a normal relationship.
anon the guy in the comic doesn't care whether she's interested. With guys that desperate for it they're trying to make it an argument, to fight against all the things the woman says about why she's not actually interested or isn't sure if she wants it. They think that's the game, and that she doesn't matter.
Guys like that are very very terribly common too.
These things happen because there are so many guys who think this way, where they have zero interest what the girl wants because it's all about them getting lucky that night and winning at the biggest game.
But because this shit happens you're worried some woman is going to tell you later that you raped her on a whim. False rape accusations that come to light are 9/10 a situation where they didn't even have sex to begin with and it's a girl trying to get a guy she doesn't like in trouble.
Your fears are stupid and unfounded. You're not desperate for sex like either those guys or incels. You have all the porn you want. So view sex as a bonus to a relationship and not something to desperately achieve. You want a relationship with someone you like. If she's not into fricking one night when you are then go jack off. If she says no or seems uninterested tell her it's only if she wants it, and if she doesn't you can just chill together instead.
Just ignore the dumb Cinemaphile shit about "women bad, feminists are out to get me!" and just fricking look for a girlfriend rather than a frick buddy or a one night stand.
Why is this sexless hopeless moron reddit-spacing every sentence? Do you think anyone is going to read any of that when it looks like it was formatted by a moron?
>reddit spacing
frick off Cinemaphileirgin, your meme is old and fake. It's a desperate cope because you can't read, can't think, and just parrot what you're told. Go be a hopeless incel somewhere else.
What
This guy is saying is pretty tru, sex should be something you share with someone you really like and really likes you back.
Because you're sharing something you should be forward with them and respect what they want enough that these gray areas won't happen unless the other partner wants them to happen which they should be up front about before they happen not while they're happening unless they're fricking crazy.
Also on the plus side, not only is your scenario rare but it's even rarer that raped women go to the police and even rarer that the police even do anything about it. So there's nothing really to worry about.
I mean given the now very well known ratio of cops who are domestic abusers there's really no reason anyone would trust them. They just as often try to turn it around on the girl and give her shit for bothering them.
What dust?
What if she threatened to yell/call for help? Was the guy showing violent signs before this?
mega for full context?
Also because I'm a lazy mooch?
>mumble wait under your breath followed by sex moans
>when you retell the event you loudly enunciate the wait and he responds and ignores it
Every time.
fricking this.
the amount of times the girl will go "no.. no we shouldnt" just for her to start moaning with pleasure is fricking ridiculous. Its nothing more than a fricking shit-tests to see if you are willing to take the reins of the situation as a man. If she did not wanted it, she would have had plenty of time to tell you to frick off MANY times and not, when your throbbing wiener is alredy pushing inside her.
Are you two fine with your brain. there is no mumble, he hear her clearly and outright reply to it "Don't do that".
and I have both been in this situation enough times to know from expierence, how this shit works in the real world. But if you are a fricking diagnosted as an autist unable to read social queues correctly, please remove yourself from genepool.
And I would even go further and agree for you to follow your modus operandi of going full stop someone tells you "no" while her heated vegana is litterally dripping saliva on your wiener.
If it is case of you simply being inexperienced, that is fine too, I apologize. Simply know that this is how it is. The only rule you need to keep track of is "not to stick it into crazy" and you will be fine.
>and I have both been in this situation enough times to know from experience
We are talking about the comic and the correct things to do in case of doubt is to ask, just to be sure.
That's mostly a meme from people who fail to understand what not giving consent means.
That they know they can't prove it does indeed make it worse for the victim.
>But if you are a fricking diagnosted as an autist unable to read social queues correctly, please remove yourself from genepool.
"I am neurodivergent, here is my webcomic so you can understand me"
Being on the spectrum myself but discouraged from an early age not to be annoying, I don't want to understand you, I want you to be mindful in the present even if it gives you a fricking migraine to think about how you appear to others and read social cues better. Each of us has a lot on our plates and there are limits to compassion when there's another goddamned "this is what depression/autism/shyness is really like, stop being insensitive" comic telling me how to think
If you are self-aware enough to make one of these comics, you are self-aware enough not to raise your voice when you're excited about something or flap your fricking hands
Well it will always be the rapist, that’s why it’s so fricked up to blame someone for rape if they did nothing cause everyone will always believe the victim and this’s through the victims point of view so yeah the rapist is wrong. But the real victim is her sister getting her name dragged into this mud.
Men think body language is ok enough for consent but they want a written contract for saying no
Because women will lie to a man's face while he's trying to escalate their relationship to a romantic/sexual one, requiring him to decode what she actually means in order to get what he wants. I've been in so many situations where I fumbled an easy lay/potential relationship because I didn't read between the lines of a what a girl was saying to me. There is an entire genre of literature trying to decipher what the frick women mean when they say X, Y or Z in situation A, B, or C.
Women aren't even overt in their attraction for men most of the goddamn time, are you really surprised when this shit happens? The second women are much more involved in courtship and less sneaky about who and what they are sexually attracted to, these kinds of situations will be much rarer.
context would be needed, because the first few panels make no sense whatsoever.
What "just happened?" Why is she laughing? Why is she, after he calls her funny, going into his arms and calling herself stupid?
Why is she implying that the only reason she doesn't want him, because she assumes he doesn't really want her and instead wants her sister?
Why is she in the next page suddenly completely against it with tears in her eyes?
None of this makes any sense
>None of this makes any sense
Kate really needed to show this to someone rational she trusted before dumping it online. A number of female creatives have come to the conclusion left-brain, critical editorial thinking is somehow a male trait oppressing them and we get muddled slop like this where the most it will ever do is fan confirmation bias instead of communicate to guys better. No minds were changed because of this comic which begs the question why it needed to be made.
>rape is yucky and wrong
Knew that coming in
>people need to be more assertive with potential sex partners about their needs and defend themselves
Knew that coming in
>this made me really sad
I literally do not care, not when it's presented this way
>people need to be more assertive with potential sex partners about their needs and defend themselves
Sometimes people don't want to confirm that they're bing raped and there's nothing they can do about it
Then they're going to have a lot of unwanted sex.
moron
>Sometimes people don't want to confirm that they're bing raped
Assume no one's interested in what you want, that's how you got into this situation in the first place
Either you take the initiative or the D but that's a choice isn't it
No, moron, she doesn't want to fight, be overpowered, and know without a doubt that she's being raped as it's happening.
No quite literally means no. Simple as.
But what if I really want it and the internet told me women are evil lying villains?
>canadian rape
I'm sorry
God, it's like the only way to safely have sex these days is to save it for marriage after you've met a person you know you can trust.
It's the biggest pill no one wants to swallow, especially modern sexually liberated women who never learned why women historically waited until marriage to have sex
You two trad larping morons acting like you need to get married to have a relationship or know a person. Just fricking get a girlfriend. None of the scary stories incels tell in these threads will happen to anyone here, they're rare enough shit that it makes the news. Women don't play games about sex, that's boomer shit.
If a girl wants a one night stand she'll be on tinder and you have to play tinder games. Otherwise girls today just want a relationship first. If you don't want a relationship and just want a frick then find a hooker. Otherwise it's tinder games.
The only way problems come up is when one person views sex as the goal and the other doesn't.
>Women don't play games about sex
Shut up incel you haven't even talked to women, you just complain online that they owe you a frick for holding the door open for them.
>ad hom ad hom ad hom
cry harder, foid.
ad hominem is when there's an argument. You posted a reaction image and a quote. Stay mad incel.
Except then, in the west, you've handed the woman a loaded gun that they win massive cash prizes for shooting you with.
And hoping they never do.
>I don't know what kind of sad frick needs a book to comprehend the intrinsic inherent courtship rituals of their own species
Respectfully anon, his observation and frustration is hardly uncommon. Comedians have been telling jokes about this sort of thing for ages.
There's a Seinfeld bit about it I seem to recall.
Very aptly put in fact.
>cites israeli comedian
I like Seinfeld. It's why I linked it. I don't apologize for liking his comedy either.
>religion explicitly states a husband is obligated to figure out how to please his wife in bed
I can see how that rustles your jimmies
Seinfeld is a lazy manchild autist who won't even hug people, anon. He's the worst example you could have picked.
>who won't even hug entitled strangers
FTFY.
>I don't know what kind of sad frick needs a book to comprehend the intrinsic inherent courtship rituals of their own species but let me save you some time.
The genre existing shows that most men don't have that intrinsic trait dumbass. Most mammals frick up the "mating ritual" the first few times, it's a trial and error process and lots of males usually frick up too many times to get another chance. With modern society pushing people to be online more and more and forcing this idea that masculinity in men is something to be fear and reviled, of course more and more dudes are going to have trouble navigating the "human mating ritual".
>You didn't pass the initial test. You aren't a massive attractive man who she understands will bear massive attractive offspring. So now you have to tolerate her woman-homosexualry for a spell, convincing her you "get it", will cater to her whims (but at the same time not be totally spineless), aren't a chore to be around and are thus "worthy" of slipping your vienna sausage between her legs
I don't know if you're being ironic but the hoops that women force men to jump through is the reason why the situation like in OP happens. Most dudes aren't going to rape a b***h, but some dudes are definitely going to be pushy after dealing with women homosexualry over an extended period of time. Again, if women communicated more overtly, we wouldn't have anywhere near the amount of intersexual problems we have now.
>if women communicated more overtly, we wouldn't have anywhere near the amount of intersexual problems we have now
That's not going to happen because hammering you with bullshit is the closest thing they can get to testing your ability to handle duress. If you break or quit you weren't worth suffering through 9 months of pain and 18 (or more) years of bullshit for. At no point in human history has this sexual exchange been fair, so if you aren't lucky enough to be frickable on-sight for a vast majority of women then suck it up and play the game as designed.
721 5th Avenue, New York, NY 10022
>so if you aren't lucky enough to be frickable on-sight for a vast majority of women then suck it up and play the game as designed.
I don't have a problem with the game, I happen to be attractive enough that I get opportunities pretty regularly. My grip is women complaining about pushy men when their whole style of communication makes it so one party has to do a guessing game. Men aren't the ones complaining and making these campaigns that shames and pushes for the change of the opposite sex's behavior
>Men aren't the ones complaining
No, no plenty of men do. Not going to argue about the game at all but I see enough complain about it. Just trying to keep things on the level.
>My grip is women complaining about pushy men when their whole style of communication makes it so one party has to do a guessing game.
The purpose of this exercise is to tell her if she can't be clear to frick off. My brother's gf tried to make him jealous by seeing one of his (lower grade male) friends and he said "If you want to see Dmitri instead fine but don't play games with me, I don't have time for that shit." She stopped seeing the dildo and they've been married for 3 decades now with 4 kids all college age or older.
Courting is the place where you pretend the objective is getting laid but it's actually the two of you auditioning for a relationship, whether you agree to those terms or not. This also means "learn how to stop getting involved with stupid/crazy women"
>That's not going to happen because hammering you with bullshit is the closest thing they can get to testing your ability to handle duress.
Dear god, if you feel a relationship with your partner is a competition, just leave them. That's not how it's supposed to be. It's meant to be a mutual support and giving each other what you both want.
>he thinks relationships dont require work and compromise
work and compromise is not being in competition, anon.
It literally is.
Part of getting another party to trust you is to give to them before. People who tell themselves relationships aren't a points game are lying to themselves. My wife disagrees with me too, but it every time I take it on myself to do dishes, cut the yard, clean the house, cook dinner, or give her a massage, she always does returns it in kind shortly afterwards. Once she does, I feel the need to respond in kind, because I love her.
Even if you don't want to see it that way, it is a points game. Just more of a game between two friends instead of two bitter rivals.
>It literally is.
No, it's not.
>reads thread
Welp, looks like I’ll just stick to my VR porn. My genes weren’t worth passing on anyway.
>VR porn
Look at Mr. Gucci loafers over here with his fancy smut. Too good for wiener vore ERP with strangers on the internet?
Hmm those dubs do make a good point. I’ll probably put wienervore ERP on my bucket list.
Do both. VR wiener vore ERP. I bet ERP in VR would be really interesting actually.
But you know. You do you, I was just having a giggle.
Don’t worry I was too. Though since I’m embracing the solo life that fetish may or may not creep up on me, only time will tell lol
A lot of people claim there's a slippery slope with porn. I haven't experienced anything like that personally, but some have. It's been pretty consistent for me the past few years so I wouldn't give a ton concern. Just don't fap so much you make yourself sore or something.
Anyone else here noticing the almost non sequitur nature of the dialogue? If he'd just raped her wouldn't there be a refractory period longer than 3 minutes?
>I need to catch up with the boys so let's do this thing that takes time
I'm not doubting that this guy raped her, just that the sequence doesn't make sense in context and the really wooden dialogue makes me unsympathetic to her as a storyteller. It's a hard subject to tell objectively, I get that, and I'm not even asking for him to be depicted humanely, just not this banal word salad of two people speaking orthogonally to each other.
>Anyone else here noticing the almost non sequitur nature of the dialogue?
That's normal with that type of butthole. He's there for a quick nut and then back to hanging out with the guys. He doesn't like her, doesn't want to spend time with her, snuggle, talk, waste time with emotional shit, he just wants a quick frick and he's saying what he needs to to shut her down and make her take it.
It might more realistically be that he never said it, but that the panel is there to summarize what happened after, that as soon as he was done he just left and went back to hang out with the boys.
Point noted but I also was talking about Kate's dialogue, rambling about her sister being prettier implies she can't tell what's going on or she's obtuse af.
possibly just alcohol to blame.
This happened like 20 years ago, Kate probably doesn't remember the exact words used.
>Kate probably doesn't remember the exact words used.
She's a writer like everyone in webcomics, she can come up with plausible dialogue instead of arranging splinters of memory and saying IT HURTS TO READ SO I DID IT RIGHT
There are standards creatives are to hold themselves to beyond what their emotional reaction to their own work is, and autobiographical work demands harsher standards if you have a modicum of shame
Really? Giving people seizures is fricking low.
Survival of the fittest, Leonard.
It's the end of the world, Cinemaphile, let me tell you more about dissociation.
So Kate's dissociating by getting up and walking away. In Olympus, the spring goddess isn't shown walking, she just envisions a safe place and she's there. They're both adults, so they walk, move to rooms, what have you.
When you're a kid you just float to the ceiling.
>In Olympus
Someone tell me what comic or cartoon this is referencing, I'm out of touch
The guy.
Reason 1. She obviously isnt into it.
Reason w. She is showing red flags before he even does anything "baww im boring, not cute, my sister is better".
The same reason girls are turned off by this shit is the reason mean should too. Low self esteem and self doubt lead ti batshit people always playing the victim, so even if it was concentual shed still make a comic about it where it looks like rape.
Redflags are not to be ignored. Always be vigilant.
T. A guy whos brother shagged crazy, told him she was crazy he fell out with me. Now 6 years later they are split up, she has stopped him access to his kids and accuses him of rape and abuse throughout the whole relationship.
We're getting a lot of mileage out of a book that hasn't even been storytimed. Is this the power of rape?
She successfully portrayed dissociation. It's a very important concept for society to learn if we aim to be free.
>incels still defending the guy by making up things the comic never shows happening and assuming they happened
The person who made the comic. Like all "autobiographical" "rape" webcomics, the content has obviously been fabricated or heavily embellished, and the comic itself only exists to garner attention and sympathy.
>Like all "autobiographical" "rape" webcomics, the content has obviously been fabricated or heavily embellished
I like how you affirm as a fact something you have no way of knowing to be true.
The sex revolution is over. If the consequence of a bad frick is a prison sentence and the sex offender's register, then get ready to go back to the days of monogamy, chaperones, and arranged marriages, because no man will take the risk
>If the consequence of a bad frick is a prison sentence and the sex offender's register
Most of the time rape litigations result in a not guilty verdict because it's actually quite difficult to prove guilt.
When people make a deposition to the police, the police often discourage to press charge as they warn it might take a big mental toll, only to result in nothing.
"That's why we should just destroy their reputation in public!" *giggle*
Doesn't really work either.
>The sex revolution is over. If the consequence of a bad frick is a prison sentence
They don't. this has been a fear you've been taught on the internet in order to make you distrustful and keep you angry. Most false rape accusations come from a lack of sex, where a woman who dislikes a man or for another reason accuses someone who she's neve even had a relationship with.
Meanwhile the number of men who are idiots obsessed with having sex to score points to their ego is much higher, and they'll do or say whatever they can to pressure women into having sex when they don't want to. The result is women more warry. So you can blame those idiots for making shit harder for the rest of us. But blaming women because "feminists mean" is just you falling for the incel bullshit.
The woman obviously. How is that even a question? I didn't even have to read it
>saying "wait please" with tears running down her face
>being at all ambiguous
Boy, 'tism is a hell of a drug.
If by some stroke of luck you manage to bring a woman to bed and she starts crying, keep your pants on.
it will be tears of joy, so shut your troony mouth, loser
Kate made that calarts pony cartoon, right? That's probably why her style degenerated.
Yes, I think?
>the tall guy in the back row is literally me
Is it bad that I jerk it to all these fake rape comics? Some of them are so unintentionally hot
Maybe you just like seeing fictional female characters in dangerous and uncomfortable situations.
You don't need anyone to explain dissociation to you, huh?
I wonder why you enjoy rape so much and making other people aware of all its eddies in the most violating way words can manage. Hurt people hurt people, right? Right. But I'm so tired of you. I don't want to try with you. I'd rather slam you into a wall.
I don't care why you are the way you are. I'd like to watch you get run over. I'd feel lighter.