The whole series has a weird premise in that she was barely legal by vampire years and married the first idiot she meets and starts having kids. This is made worse by Johnny being over the top stupid to make you sympathetic to dracula and his dislike for him.
Not really sure who the main plot point is for. Johnny is not attractive or interesting. He does not grow into either. Is it suppose to be for israeli dads who lose their daughters to non israelites? Are there a lot of cute goth israeli girls marrying non israeli dumbasses at 18 and pumping out little kids? This a current problem? And is the hotel a reference to the Catskill mountain resorts or something?
>He does not grow into either.
Well, yeah. Jon's not the one that needed to grow. He's a fully self-realized guy right from the start. The driving irony of the movie is that the immortal vampire is the one that needs to grow up. That comes through in the hotel activities, human/monster relations, and the fact that his daughter has become a woman. The movie is Drac's story and he's the one that needed to change.
>Drac's story and he's the one that needed to change
Is he though? If you remove the trauma from his dead wife and him being insane enough to make a fake human village, Drac's concerns are valid.
I guess Mavis is suppose to be barely legal at the start of the movie. She falls in love with the first human she meets, gets married as soon as she is legal and has a kid. Both mavis and Johnny have to live with Drac and he pretty much gives them both jobs because of nepotism and Johnny not actually being good at anything.
Even if Drac wasn't over protective, Mavis's life trajectory is kind of horrible and not something you'd wish on your daughter. Nobody wants their daughter to marry and have kids with the first idiot they date at 18. No one wants to give their son in law a job because they have zero skills.
Drac being overprotective is exactly why Mavis failed to launch. If Johnny hadn't shown up, she'd still be gaslit into staying in the safety of the hotel forever, she'd still have to be given a job by her father because she has no skills, and she'd still have no dating prospects because the place was essentially a family resort.
All that aside, the Zing is an in-universe concept that every monster seems to know about and Drac has already personally experienced. There's no reason to think he'd have any objections to Mavis pairing off with a stranger within seconds of meeting him, considering their entire society considers that the purest form of love.
>There's no reason to think he'd have any objections to Mavis pairing off with a stranger within seconds of meeting him *after he accepted that they Zinged
Important fix
>All that aside, the Zing is an in-universe concept that every monster seems to know about and Drac has already personally experienced. There's no reason to think he'd have any objections to Mavis pairing off with a stranger within seconds of meeting him, considering their entire society considers that the purest form of love.
It's just stupid one true love crap. They invented a new word because they are monsters and not fantasy creatures like Disney movies.
The Transylvania universe retcons it's importance by the third movie by having drac zing with van helsing's daughter, making a point that a person has many possible true loves if they let people in.
So by the series own lore, Mavis didn't need to marry Johnny. There are other zings. She will replace Johnny after he dies.
Anyway, 1 is a weird movie to show kids. Being sheltered and marrying the first dude you date as soon as you become legal and popping out a kid is a weird thing to put in a kids movie. The series confirms she would eventually find someone else.
>Anyway, 1 is a weird movie
It's odd message is probably due to the movie's change in many directors before Genndy took over. At one point Johnny was named Simon and was Van Helsing's grandson, they even had a model for Van Helsing that they reused for a background character.
>All she has to do is outlive Johnny. I'm very surprised the films haven't tackled the fact that Johnny is still mortal at the end of the day.
the team probably never thought they would make more than one and has just kicked that can down the road.
the second movie already shits on the idea of 1, that everyone should just accept that other people are different by making Dennis becoming a vampire a major plot point. I wouldn't be surprised if a new movie shit on the movie where johnny becomes a monster and they repeat their lesson that everyone is perfect just the way they are.
Johnny will probably become some kind of monster that lives just as long as vampires, retconning the conflict of the past films
that or just not make another movie so they don't have to deal with dennis watching his dad die from old age relatively early in his life.
I hope the 5th movie (God why are there so many) makes a complete tonal shift and genuinely explores Johnny's mortality and has him die of old age before his wife and son.
Because it's a popular Adam Sandler movie. Like his companies bread and butter is doing the quickest buck possible, not to say animation is easy but doing VA work is sure less a time commitment than flying out to some vacation spot.
>I hope the 5th movie (God why are there so many) makes a complete tonal shift and genuinely explores Johnny's mortality and has him die of old age before his wife and son.
they'll do an asspull and make him a vampire or some other monster that lives a long time, just completely shitting all over the message of the past 4 or so films about it being ok to be yourself.
Would be interesting if Dracula was the one that wants to turn Johnny into a vampire so he stays alive but everyone else is willing to let him go because its natural or something.
>just completely shitting all over the message of the past 4 or so films about it being ok to be yourself.
Dude they did that with the 2nd movie when they made Dennis a Vampire rather than just keep him a human grandson that Dracula accepts.
Wrong. The definition of the acronym literally is "Mother I'd like [to] frick", meaning it only applies to women who have produced a child.
Deal with it.
If someone found that girl attractive, yes. It'd be fricked up, but it would still fit the definition.
Get the frick over yourself, you're not changing the definition of a clearly defined word. Cope already.
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Anonymous
MILF (/mJlf/, as if read as "milf") is an acronym that stands for "Mature (or Mother) I'd Like to Frick".[1][2][3] This abbreviation is used in colloquial English, instead of the whole phrase. It connotes an older woman, typically one with children, considered sexually attractive
2 months ago
Anonymous
No, it only means mother
2 months ago
Anonymous
Not meant for young mothers like Mavis, you lost. If you seriously wanted to discuss about vampire MILFS, you could have posted wilhamena
2 months ago
Anonymous
NTA, I also agree that it's mother's of any age. It's literally just 5 words; mother I'd like (to) frick. Not really a lot of room for interpretation
2 months ago
Anonymous
The interpretation stands for older women, that's the main appeal when you use the MILF word >pic related
2 months ago
Anonymous
>that's the main appeal when you use the MILF word
Yes. Imagine someone using GILF to describe woman aged 28 with unfortunate history of early pregnancies, rather than, you know, someone old.
2 months ago
Anonymous
What interpretation? I literally pointed out there isn't room for it
2 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, there is, on porn or people saying it in real life if they want to frick an old woman LMAO
2 months ago
Anonymous
I'm sorry, you're wrong. Even in porn there are plenty of young performers described as MILFs
2 months ago
Anonymous
Such as?
2 months ago
Anonymous
Dani Jensen appeared in Milf Hunter in 2016, while she was in her late 20s.
2 months ago
Anonymous
The fact it took you time to find examples means i am still right
2 months ago
Anonymous
I didn't have to look for it, it was the example I had in mind when i brought it up
2 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not convinced yet, post more pornstars and I'll believe you
2 months ago
Anonymous
lmao i could put MILF on a random porn website and they will be mostly old women immediately, the other anon will have to take time and search for more
2 months ago
Anonymous
Alexa Pearl has done mommy content for years
>pornstars in charge of authenticity
next you're going to tell me the guys they frick aren't actually their stepsons and stepbrothers, or that they aren't actually asleep and hypnotized while doing it, you absolute moron
2 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, there is, on porn or people saying it in real life if they want to frick an old woman LMAO
Anon already used porn as a reason against, but you're pissed because they asked for examples
Such as?
and are getting them?
2 months ago
Anonymous
Only 2 of thousands i will find of actual old women?
2 months ago
Anonymous
How many would you like before you admit you're wrong?
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Dani Jensen appeared in Milf Hunter in 2016, while she was in her late 20s.
To be fair, chicks in their 30s show up in porn, pretending to be high school cheerleaders. That's hardly an argument.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Anon asked for examples and I gave them, I'm not the one who made the argument that porn was the deciding factor, it was Anon who said porn meant MILFs had to be old. Why are all you reading comprehension brainlets having so much difficulty with this?
2 months ago
Anonymous
Alexa Pearl has done mommy content for years
2 months ago
Anonymous
Most porn titles are just bait
I read "teen" in the title and it's an obviously mid thirties woman instead of the 18-25 girl I was looking for
2 months ago
Anonymous
Wrong
2 months ago
Anonymous
Enid is pretty lucky to bang her.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Wrong
2 months ago
Billy
That acronym applies to any mother. If you want an older lady, regardless of her being a mother or not, you mean a cougar
2 months ago
Anonymous
Cougar implies an older woman specifically looking for sex with a younger man.
Romance stories involving an immortal character dating a mortal one is always super sad to me becuase the thought is always in your head that she will outlive her husband while barely aging any at all. Is there a name for this? "Fridge Horror"?
>She has been described as being 125 years old as of the 3rd film, implying 7 years have passed since the first film
Oh nnononononononono, she is defnitely not a vampire MILF
Just because most mothers are older doesn't mean it's the only reason for the word, you absolute fricking illiterate spastic. The word has a clearly defined meaning, it's a fricking acronym, one that has been explained to your moron dog ass numerous times by multiple anons.
Get. Over. Yourself.
>it's doesn't count because.... it just doesn't, okay?!
Stay moronic, newbie
>The meaning of MILF is a sexually attractive older woman and especially one who has children.
2 months ago
Anonymous
The word literally reads as "Mother I'd like to frick", you can autism all you want about older/mature women, that was never the core aspect of the word, dipshit
2 months ago
Anonymous
2 months ago
Anonymous
>or is in early middle age
Like if they know what most people think when hearing MILF
2 months ago
Anonymous
I can't understand what you're trying to say here, I'm not trying to be pedantic or an butthole, i just think you left a word out or made a grammatical error
2 months ago
Anonymous
>hurr durr i am gonna pretend be dumb
2 months ago
Anonymous
Read that post, it's objectively confusing, I'm not pretending to be confused
They play pretty loose with the idea of universal classic monsters.
Adam Sandler is still doing his old sloppy Joe song voice for Dracula.
Contradicting messages like drac should accept Johnny for who is but they do not have to accept Dennis for who he is. You only zing once so parents should never get in the way of their children love except you don't and can zing multiple times.
Johnny is always a worthless idiot and will never not be one.
If you love Mavis and don't mind the other stuff, they are ok
can you autistic morons stop arguing about what a milf is.
Mavis is like 118 or more years old. If you are obsessed with a number, she meets that requirement. If you aren't, she has a kid, which helps her meet the other requirement. No one gives a shit about your obsession with weird old woman hentai or whatever it is you do in private that has your feathers all ruffled.
>No, Johnny hate is entirely driven by this emotion
No. The first movie makes Johnny an off putting baffoon so you will sympathize with Dracula. Adam and the creative team want you to identify with all the main characters. They want you to sympathize with Dracula not wanting Johnny as a step son and Mavis for falling for someone well traveled.
However, they do too good of a job and even though Dracula learns to accept Johnny for the sake of his daughter and further getting over his wife's death, there is no actual change to Johnny, so there is no reason for the audience to change their opinion of him.
he's just not an appealing romantic interest. He is purposely meant to be annoying and substandard.
>I don't think normie audiences hated him as much as you think they did
who even cares what normie audiences like or hate? Lost got something like 6 seasons because of the preferences of normies. Normies think pickle rick is the best R&M episode. Literally who cares.
>mentions the audience >"who cares what they like?"
Em awkward
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Anonymous
the audience is parents, little kids, and nerds. Pretty much anyone that will buy the movie or the toys. Just about everyone has been indifferent to Johnny or actively dislikes him.
If normies liked him, there would be Johnny toys and he would not have been kept out of the cartoon. Sony knows Mavis is the character everyone likes. That is why she gets the bulk of product.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>indifferent
About right. I wasn't trying to argue that he was a super well liked or popular character to have a shit ton of merch but that he wasn't as disliked anon perceived. >the cartoon
Who actually cares about the cartoon though
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Who actually cares about the cartoon though
its a cute fun cartoon. The only thing holding it back are the friends that are just bad copies of drac's friends in the movie.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>The only thing holding it back are the friends that are just bad copies of drac's friends in the movie.
I'll admit that's partly why I've put it off but also because cartoon shows based off movies aren't typically
>he first movie makes Johnny an off putting baffoon
Yes, he's too annoying for waifuhomosexuals that want to frick Mavis to self insert as. That's why they fricking hate him
>Yes, he's too annoying for waifuhomosexuals that want to frick Mavis to self insert as. That's why they fricking hate him
its not about self inserting. If you like mavis or drac as characters, you'd naturally want them to find partners or new family that makes them happy and uplifts them.
Notice how no one is unhappy about Drac marrying Van Helsing's daughter? She is both attractive, smart and athletic. She is as close to an equal partner as he will get in a human. Why can't mavis have an equally talented partner?
Genndy has one type. And it's pretty good.
BUILT
FOR
GINGER wiener
She cute.
honestly surprising Selena Gomez wasn't the first choice to voice her
Love her. She's just so damn good looking.
I didn't know that. Who were they looking at first?
Miley Cyrus
made for cuddling
>I vill suck your wiener, blah blah blah
She's great.
The whole series has a weird premise in that she was barely legal by vampire years and married the first idiot she meets and starts having kids. This is made worse by Johnny being over the top stupid to make you sympathetic to dracula and his dislike for him.
Not really sure who the main plot point is for. Johnny is not attractive or interesting. He does not grow into either. Is it suppose to be for israeli dads who lose their daughters to non israelites? Are there a lot of cute goth israeli girls marrying non israeli dumbasses at 18 and pumping out little kids? This a current problem? And is the hotel a reference to the Catskill mountain resorts or something?
>He does not grow into either.
Well, yeah. Jon's not the one that needed to grow. He's a fully self-realized guy right from the start. The driving irony of the movie is that the immortal vampire is the one that needs to grow up. That comes through in the hotel activities, human/monster relations, and the fact that his daughter has become a woman. The movie is Drac's story and he's the one that needed to change.
>Drac's story and he's the one that needed to change
Is he though? If you remove the trauma from his dead wife and him being insane enough to make a fake human village, Drac's concerns are valid.
I guess Mavis is suppose to be barely legal at the start of the movie. She falls in love with the first human she meets, gets married as soon as she is legal and has a kid. Both mavis and Johnny have to live with Drac and he pretty much gives them both jobs because of nepotism and Johnny not actually being good at anything.
Even if Drac wasn't over protective, Mavis's life trajectory is kind of horrible and not something you'd wish on your daughter. Nobody wants their daughter to marry and have kids with the first idiot they date at 18. No one wants to give their son in law a job because they have zero skills.
Drac being overprotective is exactly why Mavis failed to launch. If Johnny hadn't shown up, she'd still be gaslit into staying in the safety of the hotel forever, she'd still have to be given a job by her father because she has no skills, and she'd still have no dating prospects because the place was essentially a family resort.
All that aside, the Zing is an in-universe concept that every monster seems to know about and Drac has already personally experienced. There's no reason to think he'd have any objections to Mavis pairing off with a stranger within seconds of meeting him, considering their entire society considers that the purest form of love.
>There's no reason to think he'd have any objections to Mavis pairing off with a stranger within seconds of meeting him *after he accepted that they Zinged
Important fix
>All that aside, the Zing is an in-universe concept that every monster seems to know about and Drac has already personally experienced. There's no reason to think he'd have any objections to Mavis pairing off with a stranger within seconds of meeting him, considering their entire society considers that the purest form of love.
It's just stupid one true love crap. They invented a new word because they are monsters and not fantasy creatures like Disney movies.
The Transylvania universe retcons it's importance by the third movie by having drac zing with van helsing's daughter, making a point that a person has many possible true loves if they let people in.
So by the series own lore, Mavis didn't need to marry Johnny. There are other zings. She will replace Johnny after he dies.
Anyway, 1 is a weird movie to show kids. Being sheltered and marrying the first dude you date as soon as you become legal and popping out a kid is a weird thing to put in a kids movie. The series confirms she would eventually find someone else.
>Anyway, 1 is a weird movie
It's odd message is probably due to the movie's change in many directors before Genndy took over. At one point Johnny was named Simon and was Van Helsing's grandson, they even had a model for Van Helsing that they reused for a background character.
>Even if Drac wasn't over protective, Mavis's life trajectory is kind of horrible
All she has to do is outlive Johnny. I'm very surprised the films haven't tackled the fact that Johnny is still mortal at the end of the day.
>All she has to do is outlive Johnny. I'm very surprised the films haven't tackled the fact that Johnny is still mortal at the end of the day.
the team probably never thought they would make more than one and has just kicked that can down the road.
the second movie already shits on the idea of 1, that everyone should just accept that other people are different by making Dennis becoming a vampire a major plot point. I wouldn't be surprised if a new movie shit on the movie where johnny becomes a monster and they repeat their lesson that everyone is perfect just the way they are.
Johnny will probably become some kind of monster that lives just as long as vampires, retconning the conflict of the past films
that or just not make another movie so they don't have to deal with dennis watching his dad die from old age relatively early in his life.
>milf
>looks exactly the same over 3 movies
I know she's a vampire, but could it have killed them to milf her up just a bit?
Frick off, we rarely get barely legal characters like her in western animation.
I mean she's physically a teen mom. Like physically she's at most 19 by the later movies, so like having said features be less pronounced makes sense.
boop
Cringe
AMEN indeed
I remain eternally butthurt that she ended up with the lamest man in the world.
Its to make you hate yourself anon
At least his son gets dog pussy for days
I hope the 5th movie (God why are there so many) makes a complete tonal shift and genuinely explores Johnny's mortality and has him die of old age before his wife and son.
Because it's a popular Adam Sandler movie. Like his companies bread and butter is doing the quickest buck possible, not to say animation is easy but doing VA work is sure less a time commitment than flying out to some vacation spot.
"I do love your father, but he's more like a.. a pet to me."
Mavis Villain Arc?
>I hope the 5th movie (God why are there so many) makes a complete tonal shift and genuinely explores Johnny's mortality and has him die of old age before his wife and son.
they'll do an asspull and make him a vampire or some other monster that lives a long time, just completely shitting all over the message of the past 4 or so films about it being ok to be yourself.
Would be interesting if Dracula was the one that wants to turn Johnny into a vampire so he stays alive but everyone else is willing to let him go because its natural or something.
>just completely shitting all over the message of the past 4 or so films about it being ok to be yourself.
Dude they did that with the 2nd movie when they made Dennis a Vampire rather than just keep him a human grandson that Dracula accepts.
You can still be yourself and want to live forever with your family
>You can still be yourself and want to live forever with your family
not in hotel Transylvanian world. They constantly use being a monster/human as a metaphor for being yourself and accepting others as who they are.
In real life you would be right. But thats not how the movies have worked.
What 5th movie
The inevitable 5th film because they've been milking this series a smidge too long
Hot.
I prefer this one
I love Madame Pandora. She's the real milf.
Also a badass husband to go with it
They're both MILFs.
When I meant "real" I was trying to mean like
"He's a real one joe", I wasn't trying to slander anybody.
Oh OK sorry for presuming that you were saying she's not.
Used goods
Invalid question, She is not a MILF in vampire years
MILF means Mother I'd Like to Fornicate. Mavis is a mom and I'd like to fornicate her all night (if you know what I'm saying), so yes, she is a MILF.
MILFS are life experienced women whose age is between 35 - 55 range
Wrong. The definition of the acronym literally is "Mother I'd like [to] frick", meaning it only applies to women who have produced a child.
Deal with it.
So if a 14 years old gives birth to a child, does that make her a MILF?
Of course not, everybody knows it means older women
If someone found that girl attractive, yes. It'd be fricked up, but it would still fit the definition.
Get the frick over yourself, you're not changing the definition of a clearly defined word. Cope already.
MILF (/mJlf/, as if read as "milf") is an acronym that stands for "Mature (or Mother) I'd Like to Frick".[1][2][3] This abbreviation is used in colloquial English, instead of the whole phrase. It connotes an older woman, typically one with children, considered sexually attractive
No, it only means mother
Not meant for young mothers like Mavis, you lost. If you seriously wanted to discuss about vampire MILFS, you could have posted wilhamena
NTA, I also agree that it's mother's of any age. It's literally just 5 words; mother I'd like (to) frick. Not really a lot of room for interpretation
The interpretation stands for older women, that's the main appeal when you use the MILF word
>pic related
>that's the main appeal when you use the MILF word
Yes. Imagine someone using GILF to describe woman aged 28 with unfortunate history of early pregnancies, rather than, you know, someone old.
What interpretation? I literally pointed out there isn't room for it
Yes, there is, on porn or people saying it in real life if they want to frick an old woman LMAO
I'm sorry, you're wrong. Even in porn there are plenty of young performers described as MILFs
Such as?
Dani Jensen appeared in Milf Hunter in 2016, while she was in her late 20s.
The fact it took you time to find examples means i am still right
I didn't have to look for it, it was the example I had in mind when i brought it up
I'm not convinced yet, post more pornstars and I'll believe you
lmao i could put MILF on a random porn website and they will be mostly old women immediately, the other anon will have to take time and search for more
>pornstars in charge of authenticity
next you're going to tell me the guys they frick aren't actually their stepsons and stepbrothers, or that they aren't actually asleep and hypnotized while doing it, you absolute moron
Anon already used porn as a reason against, but you're pissed because they asked for examples
and are getting them?
Only 2 of thousands i will find of actual old women?
How many would you like before you admit you're wrong?
>Dani Jensen appeared in Milf Hunter in 2016, while she was in her late 20s.
To be fair, chicks in their 30s show up in porn, pretending to be high school cheerleaders. That's hardly an argument.
Anon asked for examples and I gave them, I'm not the one who made the argument that porn was the deciding factor, it was Anon who said porn meant MILFs had to be old. Why are all you reading comprehension brainlets having so much difficulty with this?
Alexa Pearl has done mommy content for years
Most porn titles are just bait
I read "teen" in the title and it's an obviously mid thirties woman instead of the 18-25 girl I was looking for
Wrong
Enid is pretty lucky to bang her.
Wrong
That acronym applies to any mother. If you want an older lady, regardless of her being a mother or not, you mean a cougar
Cougar implies an older woman specifically looking for sex with a younger man.
>t. Denzel
slow
Headcannon is Mavis a big blowjob fan
Romance stories involving an immortal character dating a mortal one is always super sad to me becuase the thought is always in your head that she will outlive her husband while barely aging any at all. Is there a name for this? "Fridge Horror"?
This thread sucks
Yeah, OP fricked up by not posting a real MILF
>She has been described as being 125 years old as of the 3rd film, implying 7 years have passed since the first film
Oh nnononononononono, she is defnitely not a vampire MILF
>anon thinks he's in charge of defining a word that was clearly defined ages ago when it was coined
>MILF main appeal is not older women because i said so
Yes
Just because most mothers are older doesn't mean it's the only reason for the word, you absolute fricking illiterate spastic. The word has a clearly defined meaning, it's a fricking acronym, one that has been explained to your moron dog ass numerous times by multiple anons.
Get. Over. Yourself.
Ohh yeah, i am sure most people will think of a 20 years old with a baby first rather than a 50 years old woman whenever they hear MILF
Doesn't matter which they think of first, they're both legitimate examples, Anon.
>The meaning of MILF is a sexually attractive older woman and especially one who has children.
The word literally reads as "Mother I'd like to frick", you can autism all you want about older/mature women, that was never the core aspect of the word, dipshit
>or is in early middle age
Like if they know what most people think when hearing MILF
I can't understand what you're trying to say here, I'm not trying to be pedantic or an butthole, i just think you left a word out or made a grammatical error
>hurr durr i am gonna pretend be dumb
Read that post, it's objectively confusing, I'm not pretending to be confused
>it's doesn't count because.... it just doesn't, okay?!
Stay moronic, newbie
How about a Milf with a penis?
ALL YOU PHILOLOGIST homosexualS GTFO MY VAMPIRE THREAD
Despite what I've heard about this film, it has some of the best animation in the entire franchise.
Sublime use of smears. Why the frick did this shit get dumped to fricking Amazon Prime of all things? (Pandemic, but still.)
x264 Blu-ray encode, or WEB-DL?
I'm pretty sure it was a web-dl. It's been a long time so I don't really remember.
If it's from AMZN, then you're good to go. Their quality tends to be pretty decent on the CBR side of things.
MAVIS step human mother is a real MILF
Imageworks at it again with their strategic use of asymmetry on 3d models.
Keep sharing the good, anon. You're contributing a whole lot <3
Mavis with bat ears has always been cute
damn I'm actually considering watching these now, the webms make them look better than I thought
The last movie is shit
Well yeah, they focus on Mavis who has always been best girl. And not Johnny or drac
I love the rainbow teeth. 🙂
perky
I've only seen the first movie. Is anything else worth watching?
The series is good, but only watch the other films if you love Adam Sandler.
Watch 2 if you reallys want to watch another one of these, but the rest is fricking garbage. Animation is great, but there's better things to watch
The only her films have the same problems 1 does.
They play pretty loose with the idea of universal classic monsters.
Adam Sandler is still doing his old sloppy Joe song voice for Dracula.
Contradicting messages like drac should accept Johnny for who is but they do not have to accept Dennis for who he is. You only zing once so parents should never get in the way of their children love except you don't and can zing multiple times.
Johnny is always a worthless idiot and will never not be one.
If you love Mavis and don't mind the other stuff, they are ok
>The only her films
The rest of her films, I nean
can you autistic morons stop arguing about what a milf is.
Mavis is like 118 or more years old. If you are obsessed with a number, she meets that requirement. If you aren't, she has a kid, which helps her meet the other requirement. No one gives a shit about your obsession with weird old woman hentai or whatever it is you do in private that has your feathers all ruffled.
This shouldnt even be a mild discussion anyway, it should just be a mavis thread
only Cinemaphile will waste time arguing words when there are hot vampire mommies to discuss.
the autism is too strong
Having dude sperg all over a thread is a good way to keep it alive, Anon
semantics are important anon
Mavis may be a mother but she's not a MILF
>Mavis may be a mother but she's not a MILF
no...one....cares
You care enough to be mad enough to reply
>3d on Cinemaphile
I love the concept art for mavis from the first movie
For some reason Cinemaphile would rather she fricked a israelite Muslim or a Ghetto black guy than a Ginger
>For some reason Cinemaphile would rather she fricked a israelite Muslim or a Ghetto black guy than a Ginger
I'd rather she find a character that doesn't exist in the series yet. That or be lesbians with one of the hot werewolf girls from the cartoon.
No, Johnny hate is entirely driven by this emotion.
>No, Johnny hate is entirely driven by this emotion
No. The first movie makes Johnny an off putting baffoon so you will sympathize with Dracula. Adam and the creative team want you to identify with all the main characters. They want you to sympathize with Dracula not wanting Johnny as a step son and Mavis for falling for someone well traveled.
However, they do too good of a job and even though Dracula learns to accept Johnny for the sake of his daughter and further getting over his wife's death, there is no actual change to Johnny, so there is no reason for the audience to change their opinion of him.
he's just not an appealing romantic interest. He is purposely meant to be annoying and substandard.
I don't think normie audiences hated him as much as you think they did
>I don't think normie audiences hated him as much as you think they did
who even cares what normie audiences like or hate? Lost got something like 6 seasons because of the preferences of normies. Normies think pickle rick is the best R&M episode. Literally who cares.
>mentions the audience
>"who cares what they like?"
Em awkward
the audience is parents, little kids, and nerds. Pretty much anyone that will buy the movie or the toys. Just about everyone has been indifferent to Johnny or actively dislikes him.
If normies liked him, there would be Johnny toys and he would not have been kept out of the cartoon. Sony knows Mavis is the character everyone likes. That is why she gets the bulk of product.
>indifferent
About right. I wasn't trying to argue that he was a super well liked or popular character to have a shit ton of merch but that he wasn't as disliked anon perceived.
>the cartoon
Who actually cares about the cartoon though
>Who actually cares about the cartoon though
its a cute fun cartoon. The only thing holding it back are the friends that are just bad copies of drac's friends in the movie.
>The only thing holding it back are the friends that are just bad copies of drac's friends in the movie.
I'll admit that's partly why I've put it off but also because cartoon shows based off movies aren't typically
*GOOD
Frick
>he first movie makes Johnny an off putting baffoon
Yes, he's too annoying for waifuhomosexuals that want to frick Mavis to self insert as. That's why they fricking hate him
>Yes, he's too annoying for waifuhomosexuals that want to frick Mavis to self insert as. That's why they fricking hate him
its not about self inserting. If you like mavis or drac as characters, you'd naturally want them to find partners or new family that makes them happy and uplifts them.
Notice how no one is unhappy about Drac marrying Van Helsing's daughter? She is both attractive, smart and athletic. She is as close to an equal partner as he will get in a human. Why can't mavis have an equally talented partner?