Pantheon

Is it just the 8 episodes?

Good, I hate batch releases, it kills all discussion

We're the pirate capital of the world, but also a bunch of lazy c**ts, so we'll see. I'd do it myself but I don't have the know-how.

That's actually pretty smart. I like discussing things and theorising over several weeks instead of one giant megathread and nothing after.

Amazon Prime, it's Aussie & Kiwi exclusive

The frick??? They actually dropped the whole thing today?

I'm glad Mist is coming to the show. I loved her in the book

The catgirls are back? Didn't expect that.

I think it's out

Frick it’s just out. Bad distribution again

Fak off

what does it show on the page?

https://www.primevideo.com/detail/0GTCEAAATOVXKSX0ZRTOEO9IPE/

They did

the thing is that it's the middle of the night there, who knows when 'straya anon smart enough to use StreamFab will wake up and log on

>consumed with lust

Why isn't Caspian included on the cover with Maddie? Maddie is the bookend who starts and ends the series, but everything else that happens in both seasons essentially revolves around Caspian. He is just as important to the story as her, if not more so. Guy deserves his spot on the cover.

ANON NO!

Same here

For me, it is Lori

>Big step up compared to the first season. Animation quality is a lot better, the whole show just looks better in general
while i didn't find anything wrong with S1 animation quality, i agree.
this looks great

There's only 3 people on the entire continent, be patient

It didn't even get started

Finally finished it. Got VPN to work thanks to this kind anon
It was great and went to very shocking places. It's unlike any other series I have ever seen. Some people may dislike how absurd it gets by the end, but its so different and unique in this day and age that I will take it. I only have 3 problems
>an easy solution to the main conflict doesn't happen just because a character acted rude for one moment
>there are clear villains in this story that needed to die, compared to the previous season where it was more nuanced
>the final 2 minutes are a let down compared to the rest of the finale
For the last one I think I'm fine ignoring the last 2 minutes and pretend the show ended before that. It's a really stupid decision that the writers thought made it "smart" but it just needlessly complicates things. Everything else about the ending was great though.
People seriously are not prepared to see the lengths this show goes on. Jolly good show.

Huge if true

Brother, you have no fricking idea

it only got a single trailer from them and they haven't officially announced it's coming out anywhere but Australia and New Zealand
It's like they have to quietly sneak it out for some reason

It's 25gb, it would take days to download with a free Mega account, just get it from the Pirate Bay if you aren't going to wait for someone to re-encode it (which may never happen)

I wish it didn't. I wish it was a episode a week.

It is definitely going to hurt discussion not being able to smaller talks over the course of a month, but honestly with how bad season 1 was fricked and the prospect of no season 2 for over year, imo it's better to just put it all out and let fans do their own thing.

I thought she was 16.

it's JOEVER

So it's Lain but worse, lmao. Turns out you can judge a book by its cover.

Uploading 1080p but its going really slow for some reason.

Not mega but this site has both seasons https://soap2dayx.to/tv/pantheon-ro0ro/1-1

there is nothing going on in your life just watch some eps of the first season, gooner

>Last two episodes feels like the writers trying way too hard to be pretentious 3d5u after an incredibly solid ending
>Dyson Sphere Maddie introduced with the literal cover art for Ergo Proxy
Like pottery, I want to hit it with a bat.

The dad was a schizo but I didn’t get the impression that anyone else wanted teenage murder

>Joey belittled the guy who has her cure and made no effort to display that she deserves it
>Sister is a wienery b***h
>Husband is a psycho
>Kids are thieving shits
Frick that family, I hope they all died in one of the timeskip attacks

Joey was just a self righteous b***h like anyone military butthole that wants to be an UI would be.
>What do you mean you don't know if I'm good enough to protect the human race? I already protect the only people that matter, THE U S of A KKona brother.

same, at ep3.
hopefully she dies or something, because she absolutely didn't deserve any of it

They never release soundtrack for animated series anymore.
Except Fionna and Cake for some reason.

It's a weird thing to add because if you remove the love part the story is exactly the same

If the series had ended when Feel Good Inc started playing it would have kino, but it didn't.

Do you think Caspian does the autistic little *huh* that he end half his sentences with when he comes?

Surprised to see it in the modern age due to the slight edge gap

ruined. not watching s2. frick this show

I'll give this show credit for being ahead of the curve on a lot of stuff

nah i aint watching them by virtue of the the lack of chanda alone

>cult
>cure cancer
Come on now

They purposefully make the uploading thing vague in the show so people like you will think that. I don't believe anyone would actually upload in our current world unless it was somehow proven you weren't just going to die and leave a copy.

Hey and they can change their minds later when they get bored of that

Pretty sure she is outside it if that's what they're offering her. I think she can do whatever now.

Pantheon is based on some short stories by Ken Liu, the TV series is adapted from it so if you want reading material there you go

A Fire Upon the Deep

I took it that there was some implicit gobbledyasiatic where placing the space elevator in those two locations would be the optimal placement for them. I wouldn't be surprised if the human council did it intentionally to stonewall the UIs
>UIs don't give a damn about ancient human history so they have no problem asking the human council for that location because it's optimal
>Human Council agrees knowing full well people will get pissed down the line, giving them an excuse to block the whole thing
Also
>>And they say cooling for these facilities is a premium.
The link itself isn't what needs the cooling. They state in the show that the cooling for the storage itself is a non-issue, dealt with by the fact the storage is in space. The fact they don't need to supply cooling is part of why the ring was an objectively good idea from the UI standpoint; it was objectively more space and resource efficient

Autistic dick just hit different.

I've heard tall, skinny white nerds give crazy dick from certain sources.

Did Maddie do what? Self-insert as Caspian's fake girlfriend in one of the loops? Yes. She was going to die anyway to screw Caspian up even more on the road to becoming Steve Jobs.

Did Maddie do what? Self-insert as Caspian's fake girlfriend in one of the loops? Yes. She was going to die anyway to screw Caspian up even more on the road to becoming Steve Jobs.

So wait, that was maddie posing as the black girl or what? so the car crash was her way of exiting that particular universe or something?

I think she did the universe glitch in the first episode where everyone suddenly looked at their phones except her. Or maybe that was safesurf.

If anyone likes the ending I'll give you a present. This link here: https://www.aleph.se/Trans/Global/Omega/index.html and https://www.aleph.se/Trans/Global/Omega/omeg_term.html
The final episode's antivirus are an Omegon civilization operating an Omega Point where simulation becomes synonymous with reality and the rate at which information can be stored and processed becomes a functional infinity

The above is for you. Specifically.

Humanity goes extinct through consensual suicide. Their digital copies (who think they are the originals) go on to become super advanced and build a giant computer network in space to run simulations. The simulations are close enough to real so they consider them reality. The virus they launched into space comes back and is hyper advanced from meeting aliens and invites the digital humans to the outside-of-reality-hyper-advanced-club. They go back into the simulation so they can frick for eternity. The end.

It makes sense that they ignored the suicide issue considering the first ui's would have immediately solved that issue but then created the issue of having two versions of an individual. Two versions of yourself living simultaneously seems like an interesting story concept

It is, at a surface level, just Serial Experiments Lain. The difference being that Lain has more going thematically with its philosophy and more going with its world building as well. Lain isn't really all about computers and simulations even on a narrative level unless you're a spastic who can't into media literacy.
But yeah, this series ripped it off - hard. Not just the ending. The ending merely cements it as a Lain remake in my head.
It's the embodiment of this meme

with SEL arcing "reality is unquantifiable and based purely on perception and experience" and Pantheon staring straight at it with "if you make people into computer programs they become God and can simulate reality with complete control"

Show was destined to have little fanfare with how it was screwed over. Even the weekly AMC threads died soon

Mist was a b***hy ideologue who didn't respect the sanctity of life because she has never experienced organic life - until she did.
>grooms the frick out of her son
I would have blocked her and banned my son from joining Discord too.
>caspian ended up being the Paul to Maddie's Leto II

Assuming you're not shitposting, what don't you get? If you're struggling with the hackneyed parallels between the story and the titanomachy then there's nothing to get. It was just a fun hook to bait viewers because mythic aesthetics are eternally appealing.

>3 comedy cartoons for kids
>crazy sci fi adult cartoon where a teen has sex, gets pregnant and becomes god
She sticks out like a sore thumb

Yes, the show doesn't actually show the original timeline. I think that has to be the case.
There's three iterations.
The show takes place in the second iteration, aided by the first iteration's Maddie, then the show ends in a third iteration.

>What we can say with near absolute certainty that no “Maddie watching right now” exists and it makes no sense that the characters would suggest otherwise
If these simulations are running eternally then eventually another Maddie would show up to choose something else

>What we can say with near absolute certainty that no “Maddie watching right now” exists and it makes no sense that the characters would suggest otherwise
If these simulations are running eternally then eventually another Maddie would show up to choose something else

Does safesurf need to be creating a simulation? Is that a confirmed fact?
What if at first there were no simulations, events of the show happened (sans interference), Kaspian isn't prophesizing anything, he's just being corrupted by safesurf and says random nonsense as his mind begins to break down, Maddie looks for a meaning behind it, creating the show's reality, with interference, safesurf knows about it and in order to give her a way out of her obsessive search for the answer that just isn't there makes her believe in the whole 100k years thing, gives her an answer that would satisfy her, then she and Sim-Kaspian enter another simulation, the end.

> There are some indications that this is a simulation by BiggerGodMaddie
I think 'the maddie that's watching us now' is really just the tv viewer. It's like when people in our world say, whether ironically or not, that we're living in a simulation, nothing more. It's just Maddie commenting on the concept that there could always be a layer above. It is not a statement that we need to lend any credence to.
I think your theory is probably the most sensible one that eliminates all plot holes and fits everything together nicely.

I mostly agree with this one, except I don't think there's a SafeSurf simulation. I think they're so advanced they manage to manipulate Reality Prime almost as if was their simulation, transcending spacetime and allowing them to tell the date to Maddie trough Caspian. With this sliver of hope, and being broken by the death of her son, Maddie prime finally accepted uploading herself in order to become Godmaddie and figure out how did Caspian even knew the date of the future.

But regardless of this, something left entirely for speculation is Maddie and Caspian's future. Will they relive it all all exactly as we already saw it, creating infinitely recursive simulations within simulations? Will they enjoy a less tragic life together? Will this new life be entirely embodied or will they eventually upload, effectively living forever within one of Godmaddies' simulations? If they reject upload, will they return to the state we saw them last once they "die"? Or did they program themselves for complete and definitive deletion after this new chance at life they went for?

>Safesurf goes to space, becomes God
Don't forget that SS "received" an invitation to journey to the center of the galaxy and transcend. Meaning there are things even older then it.

>mist starts talking about loving Caspian and giving him the eyes
I was 100% on board for the Maddie quean arc.

She watched too many anime

He was bitter and hated the anti ui people. They were just tools but still an insult to his core cult devotions to not-jobs.

also, comparing this to lain is a really shallow critique because even though surface level concepts have overlap they're drastically different shows in terms of presentation and characterization and actual plot

Now imagine if AMC wasn't so shit and people actually watched this

Kys

She's their stepmom.

If SafeSurf is not the only god interfering with the timeline as is implied, then that would require multiple realities for the other gods to mold or else there would be conflict amongst them. And if a being can observe outside the universe, see all possible outcomes, and apply change, then that reality is in effect a simulation even if it is the "real world" which I think was the point of the ending and why Maddie saw her godhood as a facade and chose to live a normal life of bliss with Caspian.

That ending was depressing as hell, like she's not even with her orginal biological or UI family just a selectively bred replica of them. Still quite confused on if there's infinite recursion with multiverses within each recursion or if there is any hint of a base reality where Caspian saves SafeSurf without David. Honestly ends on some purgatory shit.

Caspian must have saved SafeSurf on his own originally, but GodMaddie had her dad intervene because she had to be sure this simulation would produce the results she needed because she was nearing the deadline she got from Caspian right before he died.

Caspian would have had to enlightened SafeSurf without David originally so SafeSurf could ascend and then time travel back to speak through Caspian to deliver the message to Maddie which motivates her to carry on and resurrect Caspian through her simulation a 100,000 years later.

I wouldn't worry too much about the logistics. The writers also said carbon dating was used to calculate the age of a billion year old meteor. But carbon-14 only has a half-life of around 5700 years so you can't use it to date things as old as the meteor.

The whole willing to kill millions bit fricked any sympty he deserved up.

I felt bad until he murdered billions of them like a terrorist

I’d like to believe the fake dad made it in the UI world as an irony of being the only one of Holstrom’s gang who became immortal.

Caspian never disagreed with Holstrom's goal, only his method for achieving it.

I wouldn't worry about it anon.
t. Fellow Human

The concept gives me a sense of comfort. I used to have a fear of death and the unknown, but it lessened over the years. Although frick looping the same singular lifetime.