The best performances of the movie were obviously from Sam Jackson and Leo. That's why the first half was boring. Christoph is overrated and over acts in a way that I have to call reddit (reminiscent of capeshit acting), Jamie Fox is just meh.
Django Unchaned wasn't good because Django himself was a great character are anything anyway. It was good because of great performances from supporting actors + engaging action scenes. I'm not particularly interested in seeing Django himself in other stuff, which I why I'm glad they decided to not have him be a character in Hateful 8.
Will Smith fricked everything up. The concept of Visiona Romantica was a trilogy of 70s style exploitation flicks starring the biggest stars in Hollywood with huge budgets. After Django he would've done a straight kung fu flick. He got Inglorious in the can with Brad Pitt but Will Smith turned down Django because he didn't feel like he was really the lead and fricked the trilogy up. Tarantino only went with Jamie Foxx because at the time he was the highest paid black actor in Hollywood. If Denzel wasn't too old that would've been awesome but I also think he would've turned it down too.
Technically speaking Django Unchained is a great western (even though it is set in The South) but the plot focuses too much on the Black superman vs evil whitey. The blaxploitation theme is also taken too seriously and it lacks the lightheartedness of the original 1970's films. The main element and concept of the whole movies insists on itself way too much. That's why I prefer The Hateful Eight to Django Unchained.
Guy's best friend is a white guy, from fricking Germany
The original Django was considered shockingly dark and violent when it was new
Blaxploitation movies weren't as lighthearted as you think and cartoonishly evil white people got slaughtered regularly in them
I agree that Django is inferior to Hateful and actually my least favorite Tarantino but I think your reasons are kinda backwards
Reminder that Carmichael was hand picked to write the screenplay because he’s so le talented and amazing, then he proceeded to not write anything and instead did a standup special announcing that he likes to suck wieners and take wieners in the ass.
Fun fact: in his new book Tarantino admits to stealing the screenplay for Django from his mom's best friend's boyfriend, which was the first script he ever read
The script his friend Floyd wrote was a generic black cowboy revenge story meant to be like a Jim Brown movie. QT had never seen a screenplay before and this random black dude who he watched movies with had written it, so it inspired him.
Well, Quentin also says he doesn't think anyone else ever read it and there was only one copy and the guy who wrote it is probably dead. He can say he didn't take anything from it all he wants but he also says he feels guilty he didn't thank the guy when he got his Oscar for Django. He can also say he didn't take one scene from Lady Snowblood for Kill Bill, but what exactly does that mean? This is Quentin Tarantino after all, he's a pastiche artist above all, and just because one of the movies he ripped off never actually existed doesn't mean he still didn't rip it off
The script his friend Floyd wrote was a generic black cowboy revenge story meant to be like a Jim Brown movie. QT had never seen a screenplay before and this random black dude who he watched movies with had written it, so it inspired him.
You'll be astounded to know, most writers take a lot of idea's from others and repurpose them.
Well off the top of my head
Coming to America
Look Who's Talking
Zootopia
Shape of Water
Kingsman
Terminator
Rocky
Shia LeBeouf's Daniel Clowes ripoff
There's dozens more and obviously you're going to say they don't count, especially if the plaintiff didn't win (even though at least some of those above settled out of court), because Hollywood is so famously filled with honest and incorruptible types
I'm amazed somebody on Cinemaphile is so naive that they'd defend Quentin Tarantino of all people against plagiarism claims
The "ripoff" argument with Quentin is honestly the dumbest take you can have about him. Every filmmaker rips off from everyone who came before them, QT is autistically open and honest about every homage he's ever done. It's about as moronic as saying Kanye West rips off soul music. No, he samples it into something completely new. The song "Gold Digger" sounds nothing like a Ray Charles song, but it samples Ray Charles. Kill Bill is nothing like Lady Snowblood, but it draws from it. Anyone claiming QT is a ripoff artist is admitting that they've never made any piece of art before.
Black people.
that would be fricking kino, fricking israelites man
tarantino is a israelite
he isn't
He isn't but his wife and kids are and he lives in literal Israel
So as much as I love the guy the difference is nominal
I fricking love Zorro.
Django though, eh.
The best performances of the movie were obviously from Sam Jackson and Leo. That's why the first half was boring. Christoph is overrated and over acts in a way that I have to call reddit (reminiscent of capeshit acting), Jamie Fox is just meh.
When will they announce Jamie's demise, and stop lying?
Good now we can get a Zorro 3 that makes up for 2 being a trainwreck
isn't there like 100 years difference in their timelines?
Mask of Zorro is set in 1841
Django in 1858
Banderas is 25 years older now
It would've lined up perfectly
>remember what they took from us
Why are you slurping up anti-White propaganda made by israelites?
Django Unchaned wasn't good because Django himself was a great character are anything anyway. It was good because of great performances from supporting actors + engaging action scenes. I'm not particularly interested in seeing Django himself in other stuff, which I why I'm glad they decided to not have him be a character in Hateful 8.
Will Smith fricked everything up. The concept of Visiona Romantica was a trilogy of 70s style exploitation flicks starring the biggest stars in Hollywood with huge budgets. After Django he would've done a straight kung fu flick. He got Inglorious in the can with Brad Pitt but Will Smith turned down Django because he didn't feel like he was really the lead and fricked the trilogy up. Tarantino only went with Jamie Foxx because at the time he was the highest paid black actor in Hollywood. If Denzel wasn't too old that would've been awesome but I also think he would've turned it down too.
Damn. Smith would have been way better and it would have actually rejuvenated his career.
I would have like Denzel as Django more.
Isn't Jamie Foxx dying anyway?
Technically speaking Django Unchained is a great western (even though it is set in The South) but the plot focuses too much on the Black superman vs evil whitey. The blaxploitation theme is also taken too seriously and it lacks the lightheartedness of the original 1970's films. The main element and concept of the whole movies insists on itself way too much. That's why I prefer The Hateful Eight to Django Unchained.
Guy's best friend is a white guy, from fricking Germany
The original Django was considered shockingly dark and violent when it was new
Blaxploitation movies weren't as lighthearted as you think and cartoonishly evil white people got slaughtered regularly in them
I agree that Django is inferior to Hateful and actually my least favorite Tarantino but I think your reasons are kinda backwards
Who would play zorro?
Banderas, dude
See
>Django happens around 1858ish
>El zorro happens around 1820ish
...those are 38 years of difference right there
Alejandro Zorro (1840s), not Don Diego Zorro (1820s)
Reminder that Carmichael was hand picked to write the screenplay because he’s so le talented and amazing, then he proceeded to not write anything and instead did a standup special announcing that he likes to suck wieners and take wieners in the ass.
Fun fact: in his new book Tarantino admits to stealing the screenplay for Django from his mom's best friend's boyfriend, which was the first script he ever read
Tarantino reveals details of this django script?
The script his friend Floyd wrote was a generic black cowboy revenge story meant to be like a Jim Brown movie. QT had never seen a screenplay before and this random black dude who he watched movies with had written it, so it inspired him.
Ah ok. Any other interesting details in the book?
Well, Quentin also says he doesn't think anyone else ever read it and there was only one copy and the guy who wrote it is probably dead. He can say he didn't take anything from it all he wants but he also says he feels guilty he didn't thank the guy when he got his Oscar for Django. He can also say he didn't take one scene from Lady Snowblood for Kill Bill, but what exactly does that mean? This is Quentin Tarantino after all, he's a pastiche artist above all, and just because one of the movies he ripped off never actually existed doesn't mean he still didn't rip it off
You'll be astounded to know, most writers take a lot of idea's from others and repurpose them.
And you'll be astounded to know lots of them get sued for it, especially when those other writers aren't already dead
Got examples?
Well off the top of my head
Coming to America
Look Who's Talking
Zootopia
Shape of Water
Kingsman
Terminator
Rocky
Shia LeBeouf's Daniel Clowes ripoff
There's dozens more and obviously you're going to say they don't count, especially if the plaintiff didn't win (even though at least some of those above settled out of court), because Hollywood is so famously filled with honest and incorruptible types
I'm amazed somebody on Cinemaphile is so naive that they'd defend Quentin Tarantino of all people against plagiarism claims
This is a situation where I'm sorry you lost but you lost.
The "ripoff" argument with Quentin is honestly the dumbest take you can have about him. Every filmmaker rips off from everyone who came before them, QT is autistically open and honest about every homage he's ever done. It's about as moronic as saying Kanye West rips off soul music. No, he samples it into something completely new. The song "Gold Digger" sounds nothing like a Ray Charles song, but it samples Ray Charles. Kill Bill is nothing like Lady Snowblood, but it draws from it. Anyone claiming QT is a ripoff artist is admitting that they've never made any piece of art before.
Who's going to replace prime Catherine Zeta-Jones?
Zorro is gay. Always has been.
What I need is a modern day Luchador gun toting operator taking on the cartels in ever more cartoonish ways.
It's not Jamie Foxx's vaxx attack that prevented this movie?