OP is moronic.
1. Luke was commanding them on how to attack. If he didn't say this they might have tried to keep firing their blasters at them.
2. It let the audience know what the frick was going on.
>we're originally for digging bases like on Hoth.
They are originally airspeeders. The "snowspeeders" are just airspeeders that were modified to withstand the weather on Hoth.
snow speeder has 500 ft of strong as frick cable
Why wouldn't it? It's probably a standard ordinance. Speeders are constantly in use for towing, or attacking Imperial walkers. >>when they let the cable go the whole thing doesnt snap or go limp
Metal cables are incredibly strong.
snow speeder has 500 ft of strong as frick cable >>when they let the cable go the whole thing doesnt snap or go limp
Maybe the harpoon is supposed to shoot out at special balloon targets for recovering materials on the fly. Kind of like the CIA's fulton STARS system. Probably in a civilian application.
Why would toe cables be included on an aircraft to begin with? Even as a kid I thought that was weird. Convenient if you want to trip up a giant mechanical dinosaur, but weird.
>Why would toe cables be included on an aircraft to begin with?
Same reason why you keep a spare tire in your car. Just in case you need it for something (like towing a ship or some other vehicle) back to base.
That doesn't make sense. It would be smashing around behind you and probably cause you to crash. Tow cables work for ground vehicles, not for aircraft.
That's how they take off. They hook a rope to a tow plane and take off. Alternatively launched tows are an option, done with a really long tow rope and a winch.
Tanks usually have tow cables to drag other tanks of vehicles out of the mud of put them back on their tracks.
Since those speeders are made for snowy planets, maybe they use those cables to tow things out of the snow
>Since those speeders are made for snowy planets
They aren't, why do you think Luke and Han are running around on the snow kangaroo goats at the start of the film instead of flying?
The rebels were still "adapting them to the cold", pay attention for fricks sake.
what if once it stops moving they're able to target a specific vulnerable point that's impossible to hit with any precision when both the AT-AT and the speeder are in motion?
Better yet why did they always attack front on instead of from the sides where the bad guys can't aim
>OH N-
what if once it stops moving they're able to target a specific vulnerable point that's impossible to hit with any precision when both the AT-AT and the speeder are in motion?
Just attack from the sides or straight above and you'd be almost completely safe. That thing is just a big fricking target. Do the rebels seriously not have anything like bombs or missiles? A real world fighter jet or helicopter would just flat out annihilate sucha poorly designed vehicle
This whole thread is wierd because what anons are trying to do is apply logic and physics law to a fairytale with sci-fi decorations.
Imo this should be treated like a knight riding a horse and defeating a dragon that is bigger than him.
No, that's cool, every story deserves a little scrutiny and it should be able to stand a few questions. That's all right, that's how stories are made.
What I don't get is that Star Wars is so full of nonsense but this homosexual chose to strike a fairly reasonable thing. Real life military vehicles have tow cables and being a snow setting getting stuck in ice or having the vehicle freeze and malfunction is pretty common. It's not so hard to figure out if you think about it for five minutes.
Way more finicky. And you'd have to deal with particles like snow.
...I don't remember them being used on planets in the EU. Possible that the tech only works in a zero-G environment.
>you would expect something like a tractor beam to be used for towing and not a steel cable.
That would require a bigger power plant to power both the engine/repulsors and the tractor beam.
Yeah I member.
Why tow cables?
As a kid living in way boonies I was driving a 4x4 truck at 12.
Just on back roads and muddy.
I towed out other people when they got stuck during storms.
I've dug myself out of sandpit and mud puts. Used chains to drag trees and posts.
Everything is a pain to tow and requires good planning, angles to move, balance of weight, power.
So a speeder just cabling shit off the ground would, I imagine, just cause the speeder to crash or rip its back off or cause the driver a snapped spine whiplash.
If say it was anything heavier than a wookie.
And the cables would have started immediately loosening as so as the let go.
Unless they were some super magnetic cables? Or covered with some sort of sticky grease like Saving Ryan's Privates sticky bombs.
The atat design was shit too.
Fricking slow walking elephant frames? Why?
Elephants are great runners when they want to kill you or escape. Why didn't the atat run?
AT-AT's are partially designed so as to deal with multiple terrain types and partially to be scary as frick, the empire always had an eye towards striking terror in addition to utility
>man using tow cables to tank down an AT-AT must be really hard >woah, Luke did you know these things come with brakes? >what? >like this thing can fly like a helicopter you can brake to a stop. Would make it a lot easier to harpoon those AT-ATs
at first I thought "they should have set up that the snow speeders had tow cables by Luke or somebody having to use the tow cables for their primary purpose. then once it's set up they can bring tow cables back as a brilliant way to take out the at-ats"
but frick that "setup/payoff" shit. it's a movie-y thing that loses its power when you recognize it. instead just spring the solution to the problem on the audience, and let them piece together why it existed afterward.
>the pilot and the gunner of the AT-AT wear full face masks >the commander wears a samurai helmet with only goggles for face cover
I know the out of universe reason is that the commander has a speaking role and the rest of the crew doesn't, but it always looks weird. Surely his face needs protection too?
Officers on the battlefield look no different from regular soldiers. Otherwise they would get always shot and sniped by the ennemy in priority and that would disrupt the chain of command
Look up british officers guides in ww1, they also had insanly high casualties compared to the french for the reasons you state. It was a hold over from the line battle napoleon era military philosophy where officers needed to calmy walk their troops through hails of fire or cavalry charges and it was more important to be seen to be calm by your own troops when shit was going down than to camouflage yourself from the enemy.
iirc the T-47 wasn't even designed as a military craft, basically the equivalent of a toyota pickup with a heavy machine gun mounted on. the rebels were just using whatever they could get their hands on
stop nitpicking that the tow cables are not perfect or woudnt work.
the scene works because; slow approaching threat. rebels have a way of fighting back that requires skill.
the premise builds tension, which is good for a movie. compare it to the end of the last jedi.
empire have walkers, they are advancing. rebels have silly little ships that cant fly high at all and no ability to harm the walkers. then 2 leads crash to make a dumb statement.
>Hey guys, I heard from a guy that some dude from from blue squadron single-handedly blew up one of those AT-AT on Scarriff. >Do we have any of those X-Wings in our hangar? >We do, but general Skywalker ordered we don’t use them because he needs one to go to Dagobah or some shithole planet. Sorry, Dak. >Well frick…
Wonder what other weapons they had on those things
pie launcher
Oil slick
Boxing glove
>if it has legs, we can trip it
banana peel dispenser
OP is moronic.
1. Luke was commanding them on how to attack. If he didn't say this they might have tried to keep firing their blasters at them.
2. It let the audience know what the frick was going on.
>every snow speeder has 500 ft of strong as frick cable
>when they let the cable go the whole thing doesnt snap or go limp
>detach cable
>cable detached
Maybe they're like utility vehicles modified with plastess and we're originally for digging bases like on Hoth.
>we're originally for digging bases like on Hoth.
They are originally airspeeders. The "snowspeeders" are just airspeeders that were modified to withstand the weather on Hoth.
snow speeder has 500 ft of strong as frick cable
Why wouldn't it? It's probably a standard ordinance. Speeders are constantly in use for towing, or attacking Imperial walkers.
>>when they let the cable go the whole thing doesnt snap or go limp
Metal cables are incredibly strong.
>Metal cables are incredibly strong.
We don't know if they had metal in the SW universe
>We don't know if they had metal in the SW universe
What do you think the droids, ships, and guns are made of?
It's indeterminate. It looks like metal, but it might be something else in the SWU
Whatever you moronic homosexual.
That's an ad hom attack
>That's an ad hom attack
So's your face
I accept your concession.
snow speeder has 500 ft of strong as frick cable
>>when they let the cable go the whole thing doesnt snap or go limp
Maybe the harpoon is supposed to shoot out at special balloon targets for recovering materials on the fly. Kind of like the CIA's fulton STARS system. Probably in a civilian application.
Why would toe cables be included on an aircraft to begin with? Even as a kid I thought that was weird. Convenient if you want to trip up a giant mechanical dinosaur, but weird.
>Why would toe cables be included on an aircraft to begin with?
Same reason why you keep a spare tire in your car. Just in case you need it for something (like towing a ship or some other vehicle) back to base.
That doesn't make sense. It would be smashing around behind you and probably cause you to crash. Tow cables work for ground vehicles, not for aircraft.
Gliders get towed all the time
Nah.
That's how they take off. They hook a rope to a tow plane and take off. Alternatively launched tows are an option, done with a really long tow rope and a winch.
T-47 was built to haul stuff around
Tanks usually have tow cables to drag other tanks of vehicles out of the mud of put them back on their tracks.
Since those speeders are made for snowy planets, maybe they use those cables to tow things out of the snow
>Since those speeders are made for snowy planets
They aren't, why do you think Luke and Han are running around on the snow kangaroo goats at the start of the film instead of flying?
The rebels were still "adapting them to the cold", pay attention for fricks sake.
>That armor is too strong for blasters
>AT AT trips over
>Rebel ship shoots it twice and it blows up
?
>That armor is too strong for blasters
>AT AT trips over
>Rebel ship shoots it twice and it blows up
Star Wars fanboys in shambles
>armor is a byword for shields
>AT AT trips over
>armor disabled
>pew pew boom
simples
what if once it stops moving they're able to target a specific vulnerable point that's impossible to hit with any precision when both the AT-AT and the speeder are in motion?
Just attack from the sides or straight above and you'd be almost completely safe. That thing is just a big fricking target. Do the rebels seriously not have anything like bombs or missiles? A real world fighter jet or helicopter would just flat out annihilate sucha poorly designed vehicle
A real missile wouldn't get through the plasteel.
What about some bullets
This whole thread is wierd because what anons are trying to do is apply logic and physics law to a fairytale with sci-fi decorations.
Imo this should be treated like a knight riding a horse and defeating a dragon that is bigger than him.
No, that's cool, every story deserves a little scrutiny and it should be able to stand a few questions. That's all right, that's how stories are made.
What I don't get is that Star Wars is so full of nonsense but this homosexual chose to strike a fairly reasonable thing. Real life military vehicles have tow cables and being a snow setting getting stuck in ice or having the vehicle freeze and malfunction is pretty common. It's not so hard to figure out if you think about it for five minutes.
The thing is that in a universe like star wars you would expect something like a tractor beam to be used for towing and not a steel cable.
Way more finicky. And you'd have to deal with particles like snow.
...I don't remember them being used on planets in the EU. Possible that the tech only works in a zero-G environment.
>you would expect something like a tractor beam to be used for towing and not a steel cable.
That would require a bigger power plant to power both the engine/repulsors and the tractor beam.
Maybe the strong and well equipped Empire has those, but the plucky underdog rebels probably don't.
Yeah I member.
Why tow cables?
As a kid living in way boonies I was driving a 4x4 truck at 12.
Just on back roads and muddy.
I towed out other people when they got stuck during storms.
I've dug myself out of sandpit and mud puts. Used chains to drag trees and posts.
Everything is a pain to tow and requires good planning, angles to move, balance of weight, power.
So a speeder just cabling shit off the ground would, I imagine, just cause the speeder to crash or rip its back off or cause the driver a snapped spine whiplash.
If say it was anything heavier than a wookie.
And the cables would have started immediately loosening as so as the let go.
Unless they were some super magnetic cables? Or covered with some sort of sticky grease like Saving Ryan's Privates sticky bombs.
The atat design was shit too.
Fricking slow walking elephant frames? Why?
Elephants are great runners when they want to kill you or escape. Why didn't the atat run?
AT-AT's are partially designed so as to deal with multiple terrain types and partially to be scary as frick, the empire always had an eye towards striking terror in addition to utility
>man using tow cables to tank down an AT-AT must be really hard
>woah, Luke did you know these things come with brakes?
>what?
>like this thing can fly like a helicopter you can brake to a stop. Would make it a lot easier to harpoon those AT-ATs
Better yet why did they always attack front on instead of from the sides where the bad guys can't aim
>at at falls over
>Damages shield core
>Shooting the atmosphere tight wienerpit makes it explode
at first I thought "they should have set up that the snow speeders had tow cables by Luke or somebody having to use the tow cables for their primary purpose. then once it's set up they can bring tow cables back as a brilliant way to take out the at-ats"
but frick that "setup/payoff" shit. it's a movie-y thing that loses its power when you recognize it. instead just spring the solution to the problem on the audience, and let them piece together why it existed afterward.
>the pilot and the gunner of the AT-AT wear full face masks
>the commander wears a samurai helmet with only goggles for face cover
I know the out of universe reason is that the commander has a speaking role and the rest of the crew doesn't, but it always looks weird. Surely his face needs protection too?
He has goggles he can pull down real quick
>OH N-
pilot and gunner have substantial HUD data to operate the AT-AT which the commander doesn't need to be distracted by
Commanders and Officers in the battlefield are fearless and insane.
Officers on the battlefield look no different from regular soldiers. Otherwise they would get always shot and sniped by the ennemy in priority and that would disrupt the chain of command
tell that to 6 foot tall cape clad wearing black Darth vader
And when did the captcha go to hard mode? Fricking shit.
Look up british officers guides in ww1, they also had insanly high casualties compared to the french for the reasons you state. It was a hold over from the line battle napoleon era military philosophy where officers needed to calmy walk their troops through hails of fire or cavalry charges and it was more important to be seen to be calm by your own troops when shit was going down than to camouflage yourself from the enemy.
iirc the T-47 wasn't even designed as a military craft, basically the equivalent of a toyota pickup with a heavy machine gun mounted on. the rebels were just using whatever they could get their hands on
Was this the first time the rebels had seen an ATAT?
surely they have
>I will never be 13 again playing rogue squadron on my gamecube
Why live?
stop nitpicking that the tow cables are not perfect or woudnt work.
the scene works because; slow approaching threat. rebels have a way of fighting back that requires skill.
the premise builds tension, which is good for a movie. compare it to the end of the last jedi.
empire have walkers, they are advancing. rebels have silly little ships that cant fly high at all and no ability to harm the walkers. then 2 leads crash to make a dumb statement.
>Hey guys, I heard from a guy that some dude from from blue squadron single-handedly blew up one of those AT-AT on Scarriff.
>Do we have any of those X-Wings in our hangar?
>We do, but general Skywalker ordered we don’t use them because he needs one to go to Dagobah or some shithole planet. Sorry, Dak.
>Well frick…
They didn't feel like risking their space fighters since they just needed to delay the empire to evacuate the base.
>regular weapons don't work
>but tiny harpoons can feel machine beasts that are bigger than any dinosaur
Hmmmm