>ruins a generation of writers
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Of the "make it dark, make it grim, make it tough" what?
Joss is moronic
So what's he up to these days? Did he actually get successfully metoo'ed?
not much it seems, I think he's just NEETing it and living off his banked wealth
that article he did for vanity fair also made him look even worse
He’s worse for turning every piece of media into a self-aware quipfest. I’m watching through Star Trek TNG now. The storylines are very silly. But the characters take them seriously. So you’re still invested in the episode. Joss Whedon also wrote campy stories. But he had his characters mock how campy they were. So the audience never felt like they were in danger.
>And he’s right behind me, isn’t he?
>Does anybody else think this is weird?
>Now’s the part where I’m supposed to…
Why did he do it? It's fun at first but ages very poorly. Whedon has no qualities as a film director.
90's had a lot of deconstructing media. The first Scream was all about deconstructing the slasher genre.
And was also written by a massive homosexual
American media is too self aware, always has been. He made it into a whole genre but the attitude has always been there.
Red-haired “men” are universally terrible.
Whedon won and lost at the same time. He lost because Hollywood blacklisted him and won because of the great influence his writing style has had on TV and film.
That is just losing and taking everyone down with you.
>brutal rape scene where a 13 year old girl is screaming for help over the sound of plaping and moaning
>super hero lands in alley behind the rapist
>super hero stumbles and says "wow those super hero landings are rough on the knees"
You know i think he's right that does make the scene better
reality:
>superheroes fighting an army of robots
>giant worm emerges and eats a robot
>*silence
>"errmm, i think i'll sit this one out"
I prefer my version with a hot 13 year old getting raped
well too bad because that's far too edgy for Jaw Sweden or any of his subsequent derivatives.
That joke could have worked if it just cut to two super heroes looking at each other shocked and then abruptly cut away.
You can have meta humor without the characters boasting how trope savvy they are.
it's not the quips, it's the moment
you can't undercut your big dramatic moments like that and expect them to land
I frickign hate the superhero landing meme
>ruined tv and movies forever with his terrible writing
>raped his way through many prime Hollywood prostitutes before getting metoo'd
He had a good run
%3D%3D
>Always undercut a sad moment
>Who wants a sad emotion?
The greatest most influential television writer of the last 50 years, There is no disputing that. If you do then you're just being contrarian.
there's no way a woman didn't write this comment.
I hope Tika Watitty’s career meets the same fate as this fricking hack.
Cohen is pretty much finished
make it shit, make it bad, make in unwatchable
but then for the love of god
get blackrock esg and the democrat israel party to fund marketing and gaslighting online
>democrat israel party
They're all republicans now anon.....
The problem isn't with Joss Whedon, it's that he managed to do it well with Buffy becoming a hit and Firefly gaining cult status. This caused other writers to think they could do it too and they proceeded to write horrible cringe worthy dialogue and ruining the tone of every scene. Even Whedon himself couldn't write anything decent after his first couple of successes. But it does work if you're competent enough.
Nobody really cared about Whedon's style of writing until Avengers. The problem is that it mostly fit Avengers and was still novel back then, nowadays you can honestly never expect characters to ever be honest about their emotions anymore and the style of humor is so overdone it isnt even funny.
funny how he looks like the people who enjoy his shitty movies
What is this phenotype called?
Aryan
female rapist
(only a female rapist would want an upbeat female rapist scene)
The male feminist
Reminder that the same people who complain about this, cheer for it when it's in a movie they like
I disliked all the stupid Gimli jokes in LotR. Now what?
Gimli and Legolas had a friendly rivalry, Legolas is making fun of Gimli's height under the guise of trying to help him. This exchange works within the context of the film without devolving into a self-aware pedantic quipfest.
Except what he is saying is an action movie staple. Hero kills a guy in a gruesome way and then makes a quip. Bond did it. Arnold did it. Stallone did it. It’s fine to do this if that’s what you’re going for. If you want your movie to be lighthearted then it is a good idea to add jokes to deflate an otherwise dark scene before it spoils the movie’s overall tone.
That said Whedon isn’t the best writer.
Comedic time is a thing. And lso sincertity and being non meta.
When you watch command you laugh, but whe you watch marvel quipshit it's just cringe and annoying
Darkly comedic one-liners aren't the same as self-aware quips.
Buffy, Angel and Firefly were pretty good and even Dollhouse was not bad at all. The guy knew how to balance some very real life shit with fantasy and action. Fans often say the first 3 seasons of Buffy are the best seasons, i myself used to think like this as well, but that´s not the case. The true strength of those shows was the character development (which is still one of the best on television).
The characters really grow and go through some real life shit. They lose their parents or are never enough to measure up to their expectations or constantly fail at everything while their friends move up in life. They fall into drugs and depression or have to take on responsibilities they are in no way equipped to handle, they lose their way and literally fall in hell while trying to escape their problems or ruin their own chances at happiness and destroy their relationships or have to see people they love die...
I really think it´s kind of unfair to only remember the worst parts of Joss. He was certainly flawed and admittedly his style doesn´t work for everything (specially once he himself lost balance) but i wouldn´t be so quick to disregard his contributions.
I don't rule out Whedon either but I don't agree with his writing style. Undermining a dramatic moment is tricky. You prefer a sense of humor because you can't create other sensations,This bothers me about Whedon and others like him.In the end he is a very poor film director but he is good at making television
He was right in the sense that the tone of a movie needs levity and balance, but quipshit that undermines any dramatic moment is cancer. Just as grimdark edgy shit