>Saves the 007 franchise after Die Another Day!

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It didn't save it as it wasn't in any danger and still making massive money, it just shifted gears to what was popular at the time.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >muh cg surf scene
        >ignores car chase on ice, sword fight, hover craft battle, etc
        Ok gay boy.
        Reminder that die another day had the biggest box office of any bond film up to it

        Reminder that allegedly casino Royale had to steal one of its best scenes (airport truck chase) from a die another day spinoff for Halle Berry

        Reminder Craig Bond is trash and that includes casino royale and Die Another Day is a better Bond film than every single Craig film

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Rewatched this kino yesterday that I loved as a teenager, it still holds up.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Upvoted. It's so freaking kino.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I agree, rewatched Die Another Day last year and its better than craigshit
          Also I've noticed while traveling through EU they're showing all Bond films except craigshit, KEK

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            In Europe, mostly everyone ignores Craig and considers him the weird black sheep of the actors and especially Brosnan is popular. Only in UK and US does he get any (hollow) praise mostly from NPC's.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >there's people on Cinemaphile who defend this shit
        lmao

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          back to r/jamesbond.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Die Another Day was fine. Cartoonish Bond is an acquired taste but it keeps the franchise from going up its ass like it did with Skyfall and Specter.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cartoonish Bond IS Bond. With the camp and fantasy gone, Bond comes just another generic action hero franchise. like those bargain bin DVD action thrillers.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        To a degree. The Moore tenure went a bit too far at times and Die Another Day teetered on the edge (but I'd argue it didn't go over by much--Yao and Mr. Kil were campy but fun villains).

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Connery movies weren't cartoonish or overly camp (DaF aside). Exaggerated or larger than life maybe. But cartoonish would be something I'd apply specifically to the Moore era.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The Connery movies weren't cartoonish or overly camp

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The concept is silly but it was sold as a high effort warning from an incredibly serious man. I'd argue that a modern day first time watcher would recoil at the reveal. Cartoonish is alligator submarines, hovercraft gondolas and dubbed in slide whistles or tarzan noises.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >dubbed in slide whistles or tarzan noises.
              Still don't see the issue with either one

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't mind the Tarzan one but, the slide whistle is seemingly near-universally agreed as bad as it just undermines what is otherwise one of the most impressive stunts in the series.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >The concept is silly but it was sold
              It's camp and pretty cartoonish. The Connery movies established the camp that would continue throughout the series and come to a peak with Moore before being toned down and then brought up again toward the tail end of every other actor's tenure (the longer an actor is in the role the more campy the movies become).

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >But cartoonish would be something I'd apply specifically to the Moore era.
          The weird thing about the Moore era is it also has some of the darkest and most serious moments in the franchise.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Cartoonish Bond IS Bond.

        The Connery movies weren't cartoonish or overly camp (DaF aside). Exaggerated or larger than life maybe. But cartoonish would be something I'd apply specifically to the Moore era.

        >he Connery movies weren't cartoonish or overly camp (DaF aside).
        Bond is best thought of as being pulp fiction. Even at its most grounded/serious, serious spy fiction it is not. The brilliance of the franchise is its versality - Moore and Dalton are very different approaches but, they both have an underlying spirit that feels like Bond.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But at what cost?

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    eva green carried this movie

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The only Bond where people cared more about the Bond Girl than Bond

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bond says the title in pretty much every Bond movie though. It's a trope grafted into spy novels from pulp detective novels.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's just a filename I gave a webm I saved anon, don't think too much into it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >says title
          Is a meme on this board that frequently has entire threads devoted to it.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It comes from a Family Guy joke. Though again, there is no deep meaning to it - just posting webms I collected.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Posting a clip with that name indicates derision toward the clip.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        doesn't mean we can't affectionally smile at the goofiness of it

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ruins your movie with no survivors

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why do I want to play with her saggy fun bags?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I loved Dench and Palmer in Time Goes By extremely comfy show but he should've been M. Her casting was perhaps one of the first instances of modern pozzedness.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Did Craig ever get an actual gun barrel? I feel like no time to die had one but he doesn't fire iirc

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous
          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >spectre is the only traditional one

            oof

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He never had a proper gunbarrel sequence.
          >CR
          not even a gunbarrel.
          >QOS
          at the end, he walks too fast and his pose is awful anyway
          >Skyfall
          again at the end and his walk and shoot is awful
          >Spectre
          he waves his gun around like a moron, the gunbarrel is 2D for whatever reason and they don't open on the iris
          >No Time To Die
          he AGAIN waves the fricking gun around destroying the sequence and there is no blood trickling down and he gets shot

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The GoldenEye one is the best.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I hate the theme. TnD for me. The whole sequence just moves so slick with David Arnold's classic take on the theme.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >TnD
          Surrender should have been the intro credit music.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No argument here. A Bond theme doesn't count unless it's repeated through the score.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You are telling me there is a 007 Total Black person Death kino???

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pierce had the best gunbarrel sequence of them all. No gay shooting, no awkward walking, no jumping. He hits a chad stride turns and shoots. All you need and want.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Look at Annie Oakley here
      Shot a bullet straight into the barrel of another gun
      Unironically how did this get made?

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >then shits the bed harder than die another day with quantum of solace
    what did they mean by this?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      QoS is good though. Never got the hate. Has the same feel as Casino and is a clear sequel. The desert glass palace has some kino scenes.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Different anon to who you are replying to but,
        > is a clear sequel
        that is my biggest issue with QoS. Whilst they can have continuity per individual Bond and call-backs to previous films, ultimately Bond films should be episodic. On the connectivity of the Craig-era, if they were going to do that, they should have stuck with Quantum rather than do the whole Spectre and Blofeld storyline.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Quantum is a great film, a lot of great stuff and short and sweet. I loved it. Then, you go from that to Skyfall and....frick, it's shit.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Quantum being interested in the water supply and not, what would especially be in the minds of the audience at the time, the water is interesting. Nowadays they would probably have Quantum being interested in Bolivia's lithium.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You mean the oil. You said water twice

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Despite being something that seems like it has been taken from Metal Gear Solid, I've always loved the hovercraft chase https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-2EvAGvtaI

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The music is so fricking great. Remember when film scores were memorable and not background ambient?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The more action-focused 90s Bond is not my ideal (though to be clear I do still like it) but, he arguably has the most consistent and greatest pre-credit scenes. TND is also exciting dumb action fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcIgZ4kJ5Ow

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No need to call it dumb, you can just you like it. This is not Reddit, this is Cinemaphile. You can speak honestly and like a real human being. Back to the clip, I'd say Brosnan is the ultimate Bond. This scene alone proves it. The action, the quipping, the entire scenario and that final line. Brosnan will always be undefeated.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Some trivia anons may not know. The Admiral is played by Geoffrey Palmer who at the time was in a sitcom (As Time Goes By) in which he and Dench were the romantic leads. His casting must surely come from that.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          SLAM IN THE LAMB

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Slightly different but, Gerard Butler and Hugh Bonneville also show up as crewmen on, I'm pretty sure separate, Royal Navy frigates. Michael Byrne also appears as a Royal Navy, I'm guessing admiral, commanding officer.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Some trivia anons may not know. The Admiral is played by Geoffrey Palmer who at the time was in a sitcom (As Time Goes By) in which he and Dench were the romantic leads. His casting must surely come from that.

            Brosnan Bond has four links to Sharpe: Sean Bean (006 / Sharpe), Toby Stephens (Graves / villain in the Indian one), Michael Byrne (admiral / a deputy of Wellington) and Julian Fellows (Defence Minister / Prince Regent). Obviously that also says nothing about the wider Craig connection.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        90s action movies are kino the bike chase is also 10/10 action sequence with practical effects

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Early 2000s when they were mixing practical effects with CGI was kino and it all went to shit afterward

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For me it's the swordfight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sec8wlgtkfA

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bondgays welcome
    New Cinemaphile discord: https://discord.com/invite/s2BdauWu

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like I should rewatch TND because I always remember it being boring and forgettable when Spike TV would show it.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    James Bond peaked with Timothy Dalton

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In NTTD did they really dub over every scene to replace the manufactured virus with "nanobots" because it hit too close to home? lol

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Die Another Day actually had some great set pieces.

    The last gasp of true Bond.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The car chase where Zao and Bond were on equal footing, both with gadget-laden cars, was great. The whole movie is incredibly memorable and enjoyable. It truly was the last time we ever saw James Bond. May he rest in PEACE.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I still can't believe how cartoony nttd was even just watching any of the creig movies before it you'll be going what?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It was a schizophrenic piece of shit like all his movies after QOS. They want to bait you with classical Bond elements only to subvert them and piss you off but also they kind of make Bond look good but then destroy him later on with some cucked bullshit.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Saves the 007 franchise
    He straight up killed Bond, nobody even cares about nu-Bond movies anymore

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this. i can't believe Bond is now something of the past and a boomer thing when with Brosnan it was the biggest movie franchise in the world. i hate Craig so much.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Eva Green topless in every scene. That is all.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This, Brosnan is cool but the last one with him was so fricking bad, and I don't see kikckass being a better Bond

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