>series starts with ninjas who use tricks, deception and minor magic
>ends with ancient aliens who destroy entire planets
Why is amine writing so bad?
>series starts with ninjas who use tricks, deception and minor magic
>ends with ancient aliens who destroy entire planets
Why is amine writing so bad?
I think egotistical mangakas who helm popular series just hear all about different theories and to pretend they have some integrity go out of there way to be "original" so they always end up hitting to far left field.
also not Cinemaphile
I used to play left field
the funniest thing is just how useless the kunai, paper bombs and other ninja tools became, but the series keeps insisting on using them every engagement even though you just know they're not gonna do shit
>but the series keeps insisting on using them every engagement even though you just know they're not gonna do shit
Same thing with DBZ and the multi ki blast spam.
Imagine the sex
Episode 1 has a colossal fox demon that can destroy entire cities.
The Kurama attack was just a false flag
Konoha was an inside job. The Uchihas control the media and the military industrial complex. Danzo did nothing wrong
Yeah and in Episode 1 the million ninja that were fighting to keep the kyuubi from destroying their home weren't throwing around giant flashy explosions that could level a small town.
Why do zoomers think this is an argument at all? It doesn't address anything about the complaints about power scaling.
They're fricking morons born in 2004 while most of us were already here and in our adolescence processing the same dumbass nip cartoons they watched while they were babies.
i dont remember that part
So, which reddittuber did you get this opinion from?
>opinion
It's fact, moron
I didn't ask for your name.
Your mother did last night but I gave her a fake one. Tell her I said she's an ugly b***h and the paper bag wasn't a fetish
Yikes, trying too hard there, pal!
Cope and seethe gay you started the moronic shitposting
Are you saying you aren't doing moronic shitposting on purpose?
I'm taking your moronic shitposting to its conclusion and doubling your obnoxiousness. U mad?
No, but I know you are. Know why?
Made you look, gay.
I literally just thought about it 2s without reading thread
Did you miss the part about the Demon Fox and the Superman that defeated him?
The entire village was fighting the fox, not just Minato.
Watch only the 1st Minute
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And? Nothing contradicts my statement.
>the village was fighting the Fox
>The Village
>picrel
lol
Oh, I'm sorry, "Ninjas from the Hidden Leaf Village."
Glad we cleared that up, I guess.
There is no Power Creep because we knew it was a Godzilla sized Kaiju! Many believed it was a Rip off of Kaijus, among which Godzilla is the most famous!
Point being, remove the Fox and replace it with Godzilla!
All the kyuubi does is just stomp around a little bit and get sealed like a punk. What would replacing him with Godzilla prove?
So did every other Kaiju in Japanese lore. Their powers are always revealed much later.
So what? Nothing the kyuubi does in the first episode justifies the batshit power creep.
>Godzilla sized Kaiju
>The Demon Fox Leveled MOUNTAINS
>MOUNTAINS
>muh power creep
Yeah? When did he do that, bub?
The first 1 minute
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All I hear is some mythological hyperbole to set the mood. Again, all he he does is stomp around and get sealed like a punk.
You're not very good at this.
See
Smashing Mountains!
I don't see any mountain smashing.
Stop being a Mong! In first viewing, all you knew about Naruto was that 12 years before a Godzilla sized Demon Fox who could Smash Mountains was only defeated by a Ninja Superman who summoned an equally sized Toad Monster!
That was all you knew! When did it all become a power creep for you after such a summary?
You people are dishonest.
Actually he's an Aguirus sized Demon Fox, you fricking idiot.
KURAMA IS ONE HUNDRED METERS TALL
So is my dick when I lie down.
>100 mm
>mythological hyperbole
lol it happened like 10 years before the show starts
Smashing Mountains
Kurama went from being a big monster that can stomp on you, hit you with its tail, and regenerate; to being able to spit DBZ ki blasts that reduce an entire 100 mile radius to a smoldering crater. i love Naruto, but we're not gonna pretend there's no Power Creep. Sasuke Chidori'd a fricking meteor apart. Toneri split the moon in half. what the frick are we talking about? lol
Godzilla represented Nuclear Power!
The Nine Tailed Demon Fox is literally Godzilla because Kishimoto was inspired by Kaiju Monsters destroying Cities. Smashing a Mountain requires several nuclear arsenal levels of power!
i admire your determination and commitment to the bit. lol
I'm asking them when did it become a Power Creep! I see this dishonest idiocy all over YouTube. But the series began with a summary of Superman and Kaiju vs Godzilla.
everyone loves power level wanking. If you say you don't you're lying.
The powerlevel wank in Naruto was perfect for a good long while, it's why so many people view the Pain arc as the height of the series..It stays pretty balanced for that transitional period from 5kage summit and Sasuke killing Danzo, the ninja battle still felt pretty ninja battle-ish. Even the early parts of the war arc were still pretty good about that kind of thing, but once you start nearing the middle parts of the war arc shit just starts hitting the fan and flinging all over the place when it comes to powers
>when Obito used the Rinnegan to reanimate all the dead Jinchuriki to serve as his 6 Paths of Pain, and they all had a Sharingan in one eye and a Rinnegan in the other
so goddamn raw, but definitely the beginning of us entering power scaling madness. lol
>First Episode is of a Godzilla sized Demon Fox
>muh power scaling
what exactly are Kurama's feats in the first episode? does the Bijuu Bomb exist yet, or was that added later so Minato could Flying Raijin it away like a frickin' stud? is EP 1 Kurama just stomping around and whipping people with his tails?
>is EP 1 Kurama just stomping around and whipping people with his tails?
just checked the video in the thread and yep, that's exactly what happens and it's all there is. it wasn't until later that they wrote the Bijuu Bomb feats.
>erm dere wuz a big fox in da furst episode so u need too accept ninja zombies with eye hacks and ninja jesus cancer and moon aliens while everything goes wham bam KABLOOEY in ur ninja show
You are a toddler.
>at the beginning of the series we're shown that the 9tailed fox is like the ultimate being and most powerful thing ever
>nearing the middle of the war arc the 9tailed fox is like a cute little baby puppy and completely insignificant
>characters with neato eyes can just easily handle the power of 10 nine tailed foxes and all those other neato ninja powers for the past 500 episodes/chapters are also insignificant
Godzilla's deadliest foe were aliens! Come on now!
Foxsex
>series starts with becoming spirit detective of the earth
>series ends with getting fired from the job and opening a ramen shop
>series inspires a bunch of Naruto characters
I think yusuke vs sensui might be the worst shonen fight I've ever seen
Like I don't get how people still give togashi shit about hisoka being revived when it makes perfect sense within the series rules and the entire preceding volume was full of foreshadowing to it
But meanwhile this fight
>OH MY PACIFIER WAS ACTUALLY CHARGING AN ULTRA SPELL ALL SERIES
>OH MY DEMON DAD REVIVED ME
>OH MY SUPER SPECIAL NEW FORM OF SPIRIT ENERGY
>by the way every minor character who died during the entire arc is revived for no reason
like it feels like a parody of the rest of YYH
they still formulate plans and use diverse parts of their arsenal to overcome their opponents. anything having to do with the ten tails was complete bullshit though.
To be fair, from the chunnin exams we already saw gigantic toads and tailed beasts and kage fighters being brought back from the dead and then the entire fight between the 3 sannin (all three of which were heavily handicapped) was way beyond what we saw in the tailed beast vs gambunta battle. the show was very good at distinguishing between op magic battles and tactical grounded combat, often the best fights in the show would have both like pain vs naruto or deidara vs sasuke
I jerked off to Sakura SO much back in the day. Straight up gave me a fetish for flat chested tsundere girls (I married one)
i sincerely believe the series would've ended with the Madara fight if not for Shonen Jump leaning on Kishimoto to include sequel bait so they could keep milking the IP. i think everything about Kaguya and the Otsutsuki was thrown together in the final hour for reasons outside the authors control, and for that reason i handwave the ending and don't consider Boruto canon. it's a shame Kishi wasn't allowed to simply end his story and call it a day after making SJ a gorillion dollars.
>if not for Shonen Jump leaning on Kishimoto to include sequel bait so they could keep milking the IP. i think everything about Kaguya and the Otsutsuki was thrown together in the final hour
No shit. Everyone knows the ayyys and chapter 700 were solely for the disaster that is Boruto
>series starts with high school kids who wear magical clothing and beat each other up
>ends with ancient aliens who destroy entire planets
Except kill la kill never took itself seriously
well it's insanely melodramatic in a lot of parts
and very slapstick in most of the rest
Except kill la kill also ruined it with aliens and it's inferior to naruto
>series starts in a relatively tame fantasy world where superpowers are very rare and people are completely shocked at seeing them
>in the end the MC turns out to be God himself and can effortlessly alter reality
Fricking japs
Zabuza was the best villian.
Naruto's failing is that the grand motivation behind many of its villains was predicated on the notion that this 'ninja world' was unfair and unsustainably violent and cruel. But then as the series develops you learn that none of the so called faults with the ninja world are endemic to its culture, it's just a small handful of bad eggs who frick things up. Heck, one of the nastier villages at the beginning of the series was revealed to have been secretly manipulted to be that way from the shadows by one of those bad eggs, and once said eggs are plucked out, everything was fine.
It's because Kishimoto was afraid of challenging the friendly neighbourhood ninja vibe. The ninja village system is about grooming child soldiers. It should have been a sociopathic, bleak society, and would have given the protagonists something to make a principled stand against. But instead that doesn't happen. Naruto doesn't really do anything but beat a few people up and then get elected ninja president. Nothing in the show matters and all the characters are just cheap, single-personality-trait one notes. The only thing the series should be remembered for is the music, which was pretty good.
Samurai Flop really revealed how lucky Kishi got with Naruto. He's honestly a shit author and got ridiculously lucky with Naruto and having competent editors.
1/10, i replied
Technically all martial nobility groomed children into war, it's just that you couldn't have 12 year olds beat the shit out of 6 seasoned adults irl so there were not so many child soldiers.
It's hilarious to me that in doing this he accidentally made an anime where in nationalism and pride in one's "village" is akin to religion and genocide is even sometimes justified. The fact that Cinemaphile hates it and still makes hate threads to this day makes it even funnier.
>series start with the 3rd hokage being the only ninja ever to be able to use all 5 elemental affinities
>series ends with everyone being able to use all 5 and several kekkei genkais as well
Is there any long-running shonen manga that doesn't shit itself with power creep?
Hokuto no Ken
Kinnikuman
fist of the north star had insane power creep
Jojo? The final bosses do get increasingly OP, but the cast switching means they shove back the average power level to a relatively reasonable amount at the start of every part.
>series starts with a man using magic punches to fight his vampire foster brother
>series ends with everyone being able to manifest a little ghost with its own special power, including varying degrees of time manipulation "gotcha" horseshit, main villain from the beginning's head gets sowed onto the former protags headless corpse that he then uses to creampie multiple women and make super children
no power creep whatsoever
> Relatively.
Battle tendency he kills a Dio-level threat in the opening episodes. Stardust they're catching bullets out of mid air. Power creep is immense in JoJo.
Depends on how you define "long-running". There's plenty of 100+ chapters manga with a relatively consistent and neat power system.
And anything that goes to absurd money-milking levels of 500+ chapters can be assumed to be utter shit a priori.
Naruto
Is there an Cinemaphile character stronger than Madara Uchiha?
And I'm referring to Rinne Tensei Madara Uchiha with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikidou paths ability) equipped with his Gunbai and control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, a complete Susano'o, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in his chest so he can perform Mokuton kekkei genkai and yin-yang release ninjutsu as well as being extremely skilled in taijutsu and bukijutsu.
It was fine right up until the Akatsuki league of doom shit. Up until then it was an intense character drama with the backdrop of shonen antics. Technically you could argue that the whole Jinchuriki plotline was balls.
Shippuden was unironically shit despite giving us better action scenes overall.
Mangas are written on the fly.
When a mangaka is serialized by a weekly magazine, which is the standard for success in the industry, they only have a first chapter or a few at most, and a general premise for the story.
The editor orders the mangaka around and the standard procedure for a shonen like Naruto is constantly rising stakes and powerwank.
When Kishimoto got serialization for Naruto, he had no idea about what he was going to do with the story. In fact Itachi being secretly a good guy was an asspull that wasn't planned at first, but the editor thought he needed a redeeming backstory twist. That sort of phenomenon is very common and the reason why manga stories usually suck.
It began with a LITERAL SUPER HUMAN COMBATING A GODZILLA SIZED DEMON FOX!
Go be stupid somewhere else!
OP as always is super gay
>starts as comedic series very loosely based on the Journey to the West
>ends with protagonists having to daily stop world-destroying threats
Might be nostalgia, but I miss when early Dragon Ball was more grounded adventurous series.
I honestly prefer the crazy shit with DBZ/DBS. The essence is still the same, homies squaring up to fight people that they know are stronger. It's a good message all the same.
>t. Pedro
I never did. Back in the day I got my bootleg DB from a black market store ran by colored old dudes. From the outside it looked like a Chinese Restaurant, I shit you not. Dragon Ball VHS sub titled tapes, DBZ, tapes---forbidden tapes of all kinds.
Found DB to be impossibly boring. DBZ however was the bees knees.
*were
Dragonball is easily the superior series, it's not nostalgia
Opinions, the post. Sure it was okay for its time but it Naruto series is far superior! Hell, Bleach is far superior.
Right...
As I said, I'm not 12. I'm 50 so my feelings of course would differ from yours. I grew up on Battle of the Planets(G Force), and Star Blazers and Robotech, and Macron 1.
To be fair, of the 200-odd episodes that comprise OG Dragonball, it was only an adventurous Journey to the West parody for the first 8 of them. That said, Dragon Ball definitely felt like it had wackier ideas and was content to tell smaller stories in the setting, it still had a creative spirit to it. It's only really post-Namek DBZ where the series turns into powercreep wank where every time they manage to find someone who can destroy entire galaxies that's even stronger than the last guy they fought that could also do that
>It's only really post-Namek DBZ where the series turns into powercreep wank where every time they manage to find someone who can destroy entire galaxies that's even stronger than the last guy they fought that could also do that
And the biggest failing is that none of them ever actually felt stronger than Frieza. They obviously were but it wasn't something the anime or Toriyama could convey through action.
Android 17 and 18 never came off as real threats either. Even though they had good designs, they just never felt strong or imposing.
>And the biggest failing is that none of them ever actually felt stronger than Frieza.
i disagree. i think Perfect Cell felt stronger and more threatening by the end of his arc. Freeza just bullied Namekians with power levels of 5, sucker punched a bunch of Saiyans who probably didn't clock above 2000, Piccolo, Krilin, Dende, Gohan, and base form Vegeta.
Perfect Cell dick smashed Vegeta and Trunks as Super Saiyans after they'd just spent 2 entire fricking years training to kill him and the Androids. Goku fricking died to keep him from destroying the Earth, and he still came back, even stronger than he'd been before, and was preparing a Kamehameha that would've destroyed the entire Solar System. he's leagues above Freeza. Freeza was Emperor of a universe full of piss ants with sub 10k power levels. big whoop. a single Super Saiyan smoked his boots.
it took 3 fricking Super Saiyans and a Super Saiyan 2 jumping Cell to stop him. he's unfrickwithable.
Cell could have been dealt with by blowing up the planet just saying.
how? he blew up King Kai's planet and floated casually in the void for several minutes after regenerating before he blinked back to Earth. do you think there's oxygen in Other World? for the dead people to breathe? lol
No, I'm talking about prior to him becoming perfect cell.
Trunks could have blown up the planet to stop him become perfect for example. Then they just wish the planet back with the namekian dragon balls.
oh okay yeah you're probably right about that.
And then there's the thing where in the future timeline he could have gone to new namek and use their dragon balls to wish back Goku without the heart virus even.
>series starts with foxes inhabiting human bodies and everyone running around with guns
Fixed that for you.
>series starts with a slightly autistic girl learning to use a computer
>ends with her becoming god
That shit is so stupid. I hate how everyone with a quarter of a brain dick rides & spams it.
>series starts with a kid wanting to become a pokemon master
>never ends
Never liked pokemon. I grew up with StarBlazers and Battle of the Planets, G Force!
It literally ended last year.
Except it literally didn’t.
absolutely filtered, there's no greater deception than aliens.
And he's complaining about a series that began with a Super Human combating a Godzilla sized Demon Fox.
>minor magic
The first scene is literally a WMD Nine Tales Fox that can destroy mountains fighting a ninja with godlike powers you dishonest homosexual.
We never see them fight
But it says, if at all one's (namely you) comprehension exceeded grade school level, THIS IS A SHOW ABOUT SUPER HUMANS BATTLING GODZILLA SIZED DEMON FOXES!.
Hope this helps.
Can you try using English?
>Mommy?
>Mommy?
>It wasn't easy, but after constant practice, I managed to master the art of cope
>Yes I know Mommy, its called conflict avoidance
>I'm A big boy now, Mommy
What is this cringe?
I don't know. Why the frick are you asking this on the TV and film board about American movies?
>on the TV and film board about American movies?
Source?
THE FRICKING TV AND FILM ON TOP OF THE PAGE YOU FRICKING CHINESE CARTOON WATCHING TRANSSEXUAL
I don't see where it says it's for American TV shows and movies anywhere. Can you provide a source?
>ancient aliens who destroy entire planets
naruto shit aside, why is this trope so common in anime and jrpgs? is it a japanese thing? i can probably name a handful off the top of my head where the end antagonist ends up being a space parasite that is sent to earth to consume its resources and move on to the next planet
Allegory for white people
>series starts with pirates who use tricks, deception and minor superpowers
>ends with ancient aliens who destroy entire planets
I will always be impressed this series became so popular when the art looks like trash
OP is the last hold-out of the oldguard (Dragon Ball, Naruto, Bleach, Hunter x Hunter, One Piece)
DB and Naruto are complete milk factories, Bleach and HxH are like beef jerky dispensaries, but OP is the only one still consistently releasing content that actually feels like it matters to the overall series. Millenials are completely dead once OP ends
hows that any different to the current presidential cope
>series about a guy in a world full of mages who can't do magic and have to relay on his physical prowess
>he's so cartoonish over the top strong that he might as well have magic
I mean you would have to completely change the story and the mood if you would go for more realistic approach, but still I feel it's a shame the author went with One Punch Man joke.
I don't mind it so much in Mashle because it's clearly meant to be comedic and even then they reveal why he has such a ridiculously powerful body later on, so it isn't really the
>I just trained a lot and that gave me superhuman strength somehow
trope. In other cases where it played straight I also think it's kinda silly, because there is no point to create a world with certain rules/powers, make the protag an exception to it and then also not really having it matter.
Because you watch modern anime and only shonenshit.
Also I'd like to know: compared to what? Western shit?
Do western fantasy movies even have powerlevels? Aside from "woman character = unbeatable".
who cares
I hate anime so much it's unreal
every women I dated who watched anime was a crazy bdp prostitute
>Protagonist defeats interdimensional demon god alien with a nudie lady joke just
>series about a bunch of space Prussians fighting space republicans
>most of them die
Foppery and whim
shippuden was kino
and it starts with the nine tails btfoing the whole village. you think they could end it with no one stronger than that?
Anime is trash, all of it. I just watched Neon Genesis: Evangelion because I saw some stuff about the lore and thought it looked cool but watching it was fricked. It's supposedly the best anime but it is he writing and dialogue is complete garbage. Only a fricking weeb could be deluded enough to think it's deep or clever. Weebs are so fricking stupid.
Naruto starts showing signs of being jinchuriki when they fight zabusa. I never understood this complaint
Because they're a bunch of namby-pamby cry babies
People don't have issues with the jinchuriki thing for the most part. Generally people take issue with the alium nonsense that comes in at the end despite not really being set up and stomping on the established primary antagonist
gotta win those online versus debates
The Uchiha lost
Akatsuki lost
Pain lost
Danzo lost
Madara lost
DATTEBAYO won
Naruto is awesome because NarutoxHinata is superior and s*kur* and her blackoid-uchiha muttspring gets nothing
anti shippuden posters are so annoying
>I became a poltard le west has fallen doomer when teenager during naruto filler and dropped it
>therefore EVERYTHING after that point was le bad
>when factually naruto shippuden was top kino if you simply watch it and skip filler
they would say the same thing about dbz if it came out at that time too
Shippuden is bad because it's boring and directionless. Meanwhile, you're talking about /misc/ for some reason.
Get a fricking grip.
nah I have a good mental model of the brainrot affecting the posters I talk to on here
yeah totally agree
>everybody that hates shippuden is /misc/
I guess that mental model was on sale at hobby lobby lmao
a lotta people got filtered by the beginning of Part 2 cause it's kinda slow to find its footing, but if you can make it to around the time Sasuke hunts down Itachi, it's pure unadulterated kino from then on until the ending, sans Otsutsuki frickery.
Shippuden goes to shit exactly at the point where Sasuke starts tracking Itachi.
you wouldn't happen to be from a cube-shaped Earth by any chance, would you?
I'm rewatching it and just realized the entire world is a shogunate that starts training/using child soldiers starting at 12 yo.
Villages are ruled by warlords and all that matters is their powerlevel and not how smart or educated they are. It's basically a japanese favela.
At first they say that the hidden villages are secret weapons for the feudal lords that live in the outside world, then all of that is retconned and the only major population centers in the world are the hidden villages. Ninjas aren't secret weapons anymore, they are the standard soldier.
It's all improvisation.
ah they're all supposed to be hidden villages. I thought it was just the sketchy ones they encounter in the exam, I'm 2x the shit out of it. That makes it even worse since the only non ninjas we see are old people. Are they all ninjas that retire to become farmers and fishermen to support the new ninjas?
Isn't a major plot point of the series (I dropped it at the beginning of shippuden) that one of the characters is a Big Boss like figure who wants to create a world of constant war so all soldiers can have a home? Iguess there's no way out of that system without making the characters look like cucks being subjugated by bureaucracy like in the last samurai.
yeah their world is shit
even more reason why madara was 100% right and the good guy in the series. and obito too.
>NOOO YOU CANT JUST PUT US ALL IN A PERFECT WORLD DOPAMINE RUSH COCOON FOREVER WHERE WE ARE THE MAIN CHARACTERS AND NOTHING BAD EVER HAPPENS
>BECAUSE… YOU JUST CANT OKAY?
What's your favorite Nardo fight?
Mine is sasuke vs orochimaru in the exams forest. Beautiful animation and choreography, and pretty grounded within what the series was at that time.
Anyone not saying orochimaru Vs hokage is full of shit.
It's really hard to not love Lee's fight.
jiraiya vs pain was kino but it was dumb how they killed him off just to bring shitty intel when he could have helped much more alive
it's too difficult to choose.
>Naruto vs Haku
>Hinata vs Neji
>Naruto vs Sasuke in the Valley
>Itachi vs Sasuke
>Itachi and Obito vs the entire Uchiha Clan
>Naruto vs Pain
>Sasuke vs Danzo
>Obito vs Konan
>Kakashi vs Obito towards the end of the War Arc with the intercut flashbacks from their childhood
>Naruto vs Obito (feat. Edo Minato)
>Edo Itachi and Sasuke vs Sage Mode Kabuto
>Naruto vs Juubito
>Naruto and Sasuke vs 6 Paths Madara
>Naruto and the Akatsuki vs Menma in Road to Ninja
>Naruto vs Toneri from The Last
>Naruto and Sasuke vs Momoshiki in the Road to Boruto movie
that's my cut off, nothing after Road to Boruto is part of my headcanon.
Remind me what was that one fight when Rock Lee (?) won but then surrendered out of laziness. I only remember it vaguely, but it was during that tournament before Gaara Sand Monster and Naruto Giant Toad fight
i don't remember, i've never been a big Rock Lee guy. his best fight was the Drunken Fist team up with Gaara against Kimimaro. that boy Kimimaro was a menace online in Broken Bond on Xbox 360. lmao
well let me not say best, cause i do have a lot of respect for the Gaara vs Lee fight and the ways it pioneered combining 3D backgrounds with 2D animation. the Drunken Fist fight against Kimimaro is my favorite Lee fight. that and the filler battle in Part 2 against the other Taijutsu specialist with his own answer to the 8 Gates.
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fight starts around 2:50
oh wait, i remember what you're talking about now. i think that was Shikamaru. he ended up marrying and knocking up the girl he surrendered to so i think it all worked out in the end. lol
kakashi vs. kakuzu
great thread
goes to show that naruto haters don't even know wtf they are talking about
It's the bane of every shounen anime ever I'm afraid. Growth of characters on all aspects is goood, but it seems that Japs can't help themselves from introducing steep levels of powercreep every new arc. With the rediculous attempt of fighting and defeating God at the endgame or something.
Anyway, leglocking sex with Tsunade in the missionary position for the purpose of procreation while holding hands.