Most pregnancy fetish people like their pregnant women being a trad wife they take care of and dote on. Pregnancy artists would hate this character cause she’s way too active physically, puts the baby in danger, can’t be doted on, and her outfit and design isn’t enticing
The creatures who draw shit like that aren't people and most of them are editing other people's art to add shit like that because they're autism has advanced to a stage of terminal rot.
Can't say I agree with all of that.
But yeah, as a preggo fan I could never take comic Jess' pregnancy storyline seriously or even enjoy it as fap fuel, and I'm someone who enjoys the occasional bad mommy thread, it's some of the stupidest spoiled entitled white womyn shit they've made in a long time, but this movie takes it to a disgusting level, watching this afro sporting ghetto baboon ride around on a motorcycle 9 months pregnant is just nauseating, keeping her white wouldn't have saved it, it's just fricking horrible parenting, I'd be less offended if she was smoking crack and cage fighting a bunch of dudes with knives and vacuums.
She is meant to make the specific audience of people who want to be dommed by Gwen seethe. Since Gwen is so confident and dominant when in Miles' presence but becomes a wet blanket in OP pic's presence.
Eh, in the first movie the alt-Spiders were mostly just there as comic relief. Plus, they didn't hyperfocus on muh ebin multiverse and just used it as the plot device it should be, so it was far more tolerable
They should've focused on the multiverse, to begin with. I went to see a movie about Spider-Men from different worlds coming together, not Miles' boring-ass origin story.
No, I would've preferred if they'd never have touched the multiverse at all. Spider-Man doesn't fricking need multiverse narratives, and I hate that he's now forever associated with them
You're right that these films are used as an excuse to prop up Miles by association though, which is equally bad in the long scheme of things
I really don't understand this hatred of the multiverses. It feels so forced and contrarian. And I'm the contrarian guy who hates Spider-Verse to begin with, but I hate it for not having ENOUGH multiverse shit, you guys hate for having too much multiverse shit as is, which I don't get at all. What's so bad about it?
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The multiverse is a really fricking empty plot device which the sole purpose of is cheap spectacle for audiences to clap and point at, either through interesting universes you'll spend 5 minutes in or through cameos of actors/characters you know already from better films. At the end, the main character and their universe is barely changed or affected.
Plus, it's just a hokey idea that relies upon hack writers coming up with technobabble to 'scientifically' explain thingss. It's on the same level as time travel or cloning and like those other two tropes, it's especially bad when it occurs in a series that didn't include it from the outset. Like Spider-Man, for instance.
11 months ago
Anonymous
> The multiverse is a really fricking empty plot device which the sole purpose of is cheap spectacle for audiences to clap and point at
Don't blame a good concept for being poorly used by hack writers. Capeshit does the multiverse poorly because its capeshit, not because the multiverse itself is a bad concept to play around with.
11 months ago
Anonymous
it devalues the characters you are following honestly and writers can make it feel clever
11 months ago
Anonymous
Multiverse is forced and shallow. It's keys jingling in front of your face. >member thing from your childhood? recognize thing? reference amirite?
It's the kind of gimmick you'd expect from a toy company. Except at least if you don't want to, no one forces you to collect "what if Spider-Man but G I Joe" I actually had this fricker so not shitting on him, just using him as an example to illustrate my point. and at least kids can use their imaginations to give their toys characterizations.
And personally I prefer my Spider-Man stories to be grounded which doesn't mean he has to fight shitters all the time. Roger Stern's Juggernaut story is a perfect example of how you can put Peter in a situation where he's completely outclassed and still make it feel like a Spider-Man story and not a soulless memberry juice.
And plenty of you will disagree with me on this one even regardless the multiverse crap, but I'll say it anyway: the higher the stakes get the harder it is to get invested in what's happening unless a very VERY talented writer is in charge. I'm sorry but "Carnage will slaughter a schoolbus full of kids if Spider-Man won't stop him in time" sounds a lot more suspenseful and tense to me than "all the universes will explode if Spider-Man won't hurry up"
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>And plenty of you will disagree with me on this one even regardless the multiverse crap, but I'll say it anyway: the higher the stakes get the harder it is to get invested in what's happening unless a very VERY talented writer is in charge. I'm sorry but "Carnage will slaughter a schoolbus full of kids if Spider-Man won't stop him in time" sounds a lot more suspenseful and tense to me than "all the universes will explode if Spider-Man won't hurry up"
This. I wonder if people would have even cared about the first Spider-Verse movie if its stakes had been as high as the second one's were
I found it hilarious Miles spray paints the alt-Spiders in the new film when the interactions he had with them consist of them scolding him, reconciling with him, screwing him over, and then fricking off back to their home universe. There's zero meaningful interaction between them in comparison to Peter B. Parker and Gwen but the second film attempts to paint a different picture.
If she’s not important to the story she needs to go. Movies are too short to allow for unnecessary characters delivering unecessery dialogue taking up perfectly good screen time that could be allocated to something that actively improves the quality and pace of the movie.
>What do you mean "purpose" >She's a side character >Does she need to have her own subplot to be allowed in the movie?
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She had a cool scene with The Vulture that she shared with Miguel, that's not really hyping her up
Hell at least she GOT something to do, unlike the Scarlett Spider.
He didn't know Miles at the time and once he does they become great bros, he's one of the only dudes that help him when even his mentor was against him
Hobie did nothing wrong
>Are all the character of that movie fricking black or what?
I'm almost 100% sure they made her black in order to try and appease black females who would get turned off at Miles x Gwen (although Gwen is now trans)
Characters like Noir or Spider-Ham or Ben Reilly are purely in these films for Memberberries. The problem with Jessica Drew that they raceswap her and make her pregnant, so the point of Memberberries is made moot.
Imagine being a millionaire producer like Amy Pascal and having a multibillion dollar IP like Sony, then they decide to go the other way of what the old fans want to see and fail miserably but keep repeating the same shit over and over again
Basically none of Miguel's main Spider-Men are sympathetic enough to have pushed for Gwen to be on the squad, or would have covered her early frick-ups.
Black Jess is a combination of trusted by Miguel but also poor judgement and soft-heartedness.
Gwen seeing this pregnant majestic animal
jaw drops to floor, eyes pop out of sockets accompanied by trumpets, heart beats out of chest, awooga awooga sound effect, pulls chain on train whistle that has appeared next to head as steam blows out, slams fists on table, rattling any plates, bowls or silverware, whistles loudly, fireworks shoot from top of head, pants loudly as tongue hangs out of mouth, wipes comically large bead of sweat from forehead, clears throat, straightens tie, combs hair Ahem, you look very lovely.
Do you remember the SNL skit where two lesbians land on Themyscira? Kate McKinnon, a lesbian herself, had to kiss Gal Gadot for the joke, ha ha ha! Yes Gal, and then you KISS ME! HA HA HA HA!! LOL, That'll be so funny in this scene i wrote! Me, Kate McKinnon! Ha Ha Ha! Imagine if I was a man! Hoo Boy how people would cry foul!
If it won't make average or fat white women jealous or insecure, it's okay to show explicit sex acts or innuendo. Like howe everyone was okay with the vampire woman from Resident Evil because fat b***hes think they can look like her.
More because the power dynamics shifted against societies sexist expectations. Yes, society is actually being sexist when they assume all men are rapists and all young women only have sex because men rape them. Thats also why you cannot show an erection in a movie because people will get fricking scared that a rape is about to occur! Its honestly very anti-male sex.
Do you remember the SNL skit where two lesbians land on Themyscira? Kate McKinnon, a lesbian herself, had to kiss Gal Gadot for the joke, ha ha ha! Yes Gal, and then you KISS ME! HA HA HA HA!! LOL, That'll be so funny in this scene i wrote! Me, Kate McKinnon! Ha Ha Ha! Imagine if I was a man! Hoo Boy how people would cry foul!
This is a thread about a woman that is literally pregnant and married to a man, how are you seething about lesbians
Safe horny is a great way to describe all these new factory made "hot" characters. Jess is only in the film for a few minutes but the amount of advertising for her makes her that much more annoying.
Gwen for no reason just melts to this stranger she is barely meeting for the first time. It reeks of liberal white woman writing. OMG a STRONG INDEPENDANT BLACK WOMAN I LOVE YOU! I WISH I WAS COOL AN BLACK LIKE YOU!
>*serves zero purpose in the movie* >translation: she's a new minority character in a movie so she needs to have a subplot to justify her existence because she's not white
Just got back from the theater. Felt a bit weird to see obese body positivity spider-women running around after there were so many fat jokes at the expense of fat Peter in the original.
>Tries insulting white people >Insinuates blacks have no manners instead
MrBeast finally got a chuckle out of me.
He ditch the troony, or is that still a thing?
Not really, it felt more like a celebration of the 90s extreme than anything.
I didn't feel any "This is le bad" feeling from how they portrayed these characters, they were simply all different and interesting from each other.
i think the real problem was he didn't get to do anything cool. he only really gets two "fights", and i mean that in the loosest sense, though, he also got advertised heavily so hopefully it means a lot of his scenes are just in beyond the same way cyborg spider-woman and spider-byte presumably are going to get a lot of screentime in the next one. also don't think he should've jobbed to gwen at the end, but whatever
>also don't think he should've jobbed to gwen at the end, but whatever
They should've cut down on the drawn out shots that were clearly used to pad the runtime and given them an actual fight instead. Have Gwen initially struggle but beat him another Spider's help
She and Peter B with his daughter are the most moronic idea in the movie.
Ok I can understand Peter having his daughter at the beginning/part one but at the fricking end he took her FRICKING AGAIN!!!
>is meant as fetish fuel
>majority of pregnancy fetishists hate her
What did they mean by this?
Most pregnancy fetish people like their pregnant women being a trad wife they take care of and dote on. Pregnancy artists would hate this character cause she’s way too active physically, puts the baby in danger, can’t be doted on, and her outfit and design isn’t enticing
Also she’s ugly (and black) lol
This, all my attraction is gone if it shows the pregnant woman smoking or drinking or doing something physical that'd make her miscarriage.
>Spluts her fetus out at a villain
I like her cause she's black and got an afro because that's my fetish
Is that a coconut?
all of the pregnancy fetish artists who draw shit like abortion marks would beg to differ
They're inferior.
The creatures who draw shit like that aren't people and most of them are editing other people's art to add shit like that because they're autism has advanced to a stage of terminal rot.
>abortion marks
u makin shit up now
Can't say I agree with all of that.
But yeah, as a preggo fan I could never take comic Jess' pregnancy storyline seriously or even enjoy it as fap fuel, and I'm someone who enjoys the occasional bad mommy thread, it's some of the stupidest spoiled entitled white womyn shit they've made in a long time, but this movie takes it to a disgusting level, watching this afro sporting ghetto baboon ride around on a motorcycle 9 months pregnant is just nauseating, keeping her white wouldn't have saved it, it's just fricking horrible parenting, I'd be less offended if she was smoking crack and cage fighting a bunch of dudes with knives and vacuums.
She is meant to make the specific audience of people who want to be dommed by Gwen seethe. Since Gwen is so confident and dominant when in Miles' presence but becomes a wet blanket in OP pic's presence.
What do you mean "purpose"
She's a side character
Does she need to have her own subplot to be allowed in the movie?
Preferably
I also hated this in the first movie since the alt Spiders were just there for the gimmick
Eh, in the first movie the alt-Spiders were mostly just there as comic relief. Plus, they didn't hyperfocus on muh ebin multiverse and just used it as the plot device it should be, so it was far more tolerable
They should've focused on the multiverse, to begin with. I went to see a movie about Spider-Men from different worlds coming together, not Miles' boring-ass origin story.
>Miles is so fricking boring they needed a multiverse plot to cameo every other spiderman possible so people would care.
Oof.
No, I would've preferred if they'd never have touched the multiverse at all. Spider-Man doesn't fricking need multiverse narratives, and I hate that he's now forever associated with them
You're right that these films are used as an excuse to prop up Miles by association though, which is equally bad in the long scheme of things
I really don't understand this hatred of the multiverses. It feels so forced and contrarian. And I'm the contrarian guy who hates Spider-Verse to begin with, but I hate it for not having ENOUGH multiverse shit, you guys hate for having too much multiverse shit as is, which I don't get at all. What's so bad about it?
The multiverse is a really fricking empty plot device which the sole purpose of is cheap spectacle for audiences to clap and point at, either through interesting universes you'll spend 5 minutes in or through cameos of actors/characters you know already from better films. At the end, the main character and their universe is barely changed or affected.
Plus, it's just a hokey idea that relies upon hack writers coming up with technobabble to 'scientifically' explain thingss. It's on the same level as time travel or cloning and like those other two tropes, it's especially bad when it occurs in a series that didn't include it from the outset. Like Spider-Man, for instance.
> The multiverse is a really fricking empty plot device which the sole purpose of is cheap spectacle for audiences to clap and point at
Don't blame a good concept for being poorly used by hack writers. Capeshit does the multiverse poorly because its capeshit, not because the multiverse itself is a bad concept to play around with.
it devalues the characters you are following honestly and writers can make it feel clever
Multiverse is forced and shallow. It's keys jingling in front of your face.
>member thing from your childhood? recognize thing? reference amirite?
It's the kind of gimmick you'd expect from a toy company. Except at least if you don't want to, no one forces you to collect "what if Spider-Man but G I Joe" I actually had this fricker so not shitting on him, just using him as an example to illustrate my point. and at least kids can use their imaginations to give their toys characterizations.
And personally I prefer my Spider-Man stories to be grounded which doesn't mean he has to fight shitters all the time. Roger Stern's Juggernaut story is a perfect example of how you can put Peter in a situation where he's completely outclassed and still make it feel like a Spider-Man story and not a soulless memberry juice.
And plenty of you will disagree with me on this one even regardless the multiverse crap, but I'll say it anyway: the higher the stakes get the harder it is to get invested in what's happening unless a very VERY talented writer is in charge. I'm sorry but "Carnage will slaughter a schoolbus full of kids if Spider-Man won't stop him in time" sounds a lot more suspenseful and tense to me than "all the universes will explode if Spider-Man won't hurry up"
>And plenty of you will disagree with me on this one even regardless the multiverse crap, but I'll say it anyway: the higher the stakes get the harder it is to get invested in what's happening unless a very VERY talented writer is in charge. I'm sorry but "Carnage will slaughter a schoolbus full of kids if Spider-Man won't stop him in time" sounds a lot more suspenseful and tense to me than "all the universes will explode if Spider-Man won't hurry up"
This. I wonder if people would have even cared about the first Spider-Verse movie if its stakes had been as high as the second one's were
I found it hilarious Miles spray paints the alt-Spiders in the new film when the interactions he had with them consist of them scolding him, reconciling with him, screwing him over, and then fricking off back to their home universe. There's zero meaningful interaction between them in comparison to Peter B. Parker and Gwen but the second film attempts to paint a different picture.
You see Jess's mood go from optimistic and loving, to serious and brooding. Is it the post partum depression or is it the child loss?
She got reminded that's she's black by Gwen
I think the optimism was just Gwen's idealization of her and in reality shes very jaded but not quite as much as Miguel
If she’s not important to the story she needs to go. Movies are too short to allow for unnecessary characters delivering unecessery dialogue taking up perfectly good screen time that could be allocated to something that actively improves the quality and pace of the movie.
>What do you mean "purpose"
>She's a side character
>Does she need to have her own subplot to be allowed in the movie?
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>Does she need to have her own subplot to be allowed in the movie?
When they hype her up, it feels like she does
She had a cool scene with The Vulture that she shared with Miguel, that's not really hyping her up
Hell at least she GOT something to do, unlike the Scarlett Spider.
She served multiple purposes for my dick
Are all the character of that movie fricking black or what?
Yes. No Snow apes allowed in the spider club.
People forget that Jessica was originally black
Basically all three black Spiders introduced each end up screwing over Miguel, accidentally or intentionally.
When did Hobie frick Miles over?
He fricked his girlfriend
Miles not only got buck broken'd by Gwen he also got cucked? This keeps getting better and better
He didn't know Miles at the time and once he does they become great bros, he's one of the only dudes that help him when even his mentor was against him
Hobie did nothing wrong
He's an anarchist gay, he does plenty of wrong, plus just like Miles he's queer cuz he had sex with a trans woman
>Are all the character of that movie fricking black or what?
I'm almost 100% sure they made her black in order to try and appease black females who would get turned off at Miles x Gwen (although Gwen is now trans)
Characters like Noir or Spider-Ham or Ben Reilly are purely in these films for Memberberries. The problem with Jessica Drew that they raceswap her and make her pregnant, so the point of Memberberries is made moot.
Who has memberberries for Spider-Ham? He didn't appear in any normie media.
Most people know who he is just by the novelty.
her unborn child
of course, it's a nog.
As oppose to the white characters who point a gun at their kid, or bring their newborn baby to ANOTHER battle royale?
*as opposed
Dumbass
Planned Parenthood doesn't exist in her universe.
Purpose is to steal another white character.
Imagine being a millionaire producer like Amy Pascal and having a multibillion dollar IP like Sony, then they decide to go the other way of what the old fans want to see and fail miserably but keep repeating the same shit over and over again
Amy Pascal seems to hate beautiful and sexy women
She's the one Gwen is gonna have to fight in beyond
She lets Gwen on the Spiderverse team before her tragedies have resolved, setting up all of the dominos to fall that fricks up Miguel's narrative.
Without Jess recruiting Gwen (probably against Miguel's better judgement) the whole plot doesn't happen.
Basically none of Miguel's main Spider-Men are sympathetic enough to have pushed for Gwen to be on the squad, or would have covered her early frick-ups.
Black Jess is a combination of trusted by Miguel but also poor judgement and soft-heartedness.
we already have the one pushing miguel
She would never cover for Gwen to the point of everything being ruined for everyone forever.
She doesn't seem to take the whole canon event thing as seriously as Miguel
Her purpose was to fill me with disgust.
How does she ever survive in her own universe? Dr. Octopus has like 4 arms he could easily grab on that nappy head of hear with.
And that must be the Spider-Woman from the live action lol
She's Miguel's right hand and mentor to Gwen.
This. She mediates between them til Gwen has sufficiently ruined everything.
I have not seen a single answer as to why she went into combat pregnant
*serves my wiener*
BLACK ASS MOMMA
WHITE ASS DADDY
MULATTO BUTTS
She's BLACK and has an AFRO and is a WOMAN who's also BLACK WITH AND AFRO
>She's BLACK and has an AFRO and is a WOMAN who's also BLACK WITH AND AFRO
doesn't Misty Knight already exist?
WITH A FLAT ASS
Gwen seeing this pregnant majestic animal
jaw drops to floor, eyes pop out of sockets accompanied by trumpets, heart beats out of chest, awooga awooga sound effect, pulls chain on train whistle that has appeared next to head as steam blows out, slams fists on table, rattling any plates, bowls or silverware, whistles loudly, fireworks shoot from top of head, pants loudly as tongue hangs out of mouth, wipes comically large bead of sweat from forehead, clears throat, straightens tie, combs hair Ahem, you look very lovely.
>OMG CanYouAdoptMe?
that was some real "I voted for Obama you know" Energy. i genuinely cringed.
Gwen really wanted to give that black b***h another baby
Safehorny slop.
>"Haha forbidden age gaps are fine if it's interracial dykes that's like sooooo progressive"
Do you remember the SNL skit where two lesbians land on Themyscira? Kate McKinnon, a lesbian herself, had to kiss Gal Gadot for the joke, ha ha ha! Yes Gal, and then you KISS ME! HA HA HA HA!! LOL, That'll be so funny in this scene i wrote! Me, Kate McKinnon! Ha Ha Ha! Imagine if I was a man! Hoo Boy how people would cry foul!
If it won't make average or fat white women jealous or insecure, it's okay to show explicit sex acts or innuendo. Like howe everyone was okay with the vampire woman from Resident Evil because fat b***hes think they can look like her.
More because the power dynamics shifted against societies sexist expectations. Yes, society is actually being sexist when they assume all men are rapists and all young women only have sex because men rape them. Thats also why you cannot show an erection in a movie because people will get fricking scared that a rape is about to occur! Its honestly very anti-male sex.
I was happy to have the big vampire lady tho.
This is a thread about a woman that is literally pregnant and married to a man, how are you seething about lesbians
Because Gwen clearly wanted to have sex with her
I like lesbians, I'm saying that line is forced and unfunny because mainstream media is okay with only certain kinds of horny
yes an i was add to that observation, try and keep up
, you moron.
Safe horny is a great way to describe all these new factory made "hot" characters. Jess is only in the film for a few minutes but the amount of advertising for her makes her that much more annoying.
How?
Black worship is satanic
Gwen for no reason just melts to this stranger she is barely meeting for the first time. It reeks of liberal white woman writing. OMG a STRONG INDEPENDANT BLACK WOMAN I LOVE YOU! I WISH I WAS COOL AN BLACK LIKE YOU!
Gwen just loves a dark ass she can shove her wiener in.
>*serves zero purpose in the movie*
>translation: she's a new minority character in a movie so she needs to have a subplot to justify her existence because she's not white
Yes? Maybe explain that she sold her white skin to mephisto as her one more day event.
>she needs to have a subplot to justify her existence
Yes. Holy shit, this movie is terrible.
She was Gwen's mentor, and crucially, a buffer between the actual goings-on and Miguel.
sexy ispurpose, I'm ok with that inclusion
To be fair, if it weren’t for her, Gwen wouldn’t have joined the spider-society
They should've just had Miguel ask her to join
Don't care, I already made porn of her getting fricked on a motorcycle so I got my use out of her.
Just got back from the theater. Felt a bit weird to see obese body positivity spider-women running around after there were so many fat jokes at the expense of fat Peter in the original.
Suddenly thought about this meme lol
>Tries insulting white people
>Insinuates blacks have no manners instead
MrBeast finally got a chuckle out of me.
He ditch the troony, or is that still a thing?
She barely has any personality and doesn't joke or throw quips like Miguel. She's just an assistant.
>*serves zero purpose in the movie*
His purpose was for the writers to go "THE 90'S WERE BAD RIGHT XD"
Not really, it felt more like a celebration of the 90s extreme than anything.
I didn't feel any "This is le bad" feeling from how they portrayed these characters, they were simply all different and interesting from each other.
i think the real problem was he didn't get to do anything cool. he only really gets two "fights", and i mean that in the loosest sense, though, he also got advertised heavily so hopefully it means a lot of his scenes are just in beyond the same way cyborg spider-woman and spider-byte presumably are going to get a lot of screentime in the next one. also don't think he should've jobbed to gwen at the end, but whatever
>also don't think he should've jobbed to gwen at the end, but whatever
They should've cut down on the drawn out shots that were clearly used to pad the runtime and given them an actual fight instead. Have Gwen initially struggle but beat him another Spider's help
is there a new torrent? wanna rewatch the movie but without someone eating popcorn 70% of the time
The purpose was to set up her.
She was also really great
Nah, Jessica Drew is not back
Why did they make her black and pregnant
She and Peter B with his daughter are the most moronic idea in the movie.
Ok I can understand Peter having his daughter at the beginning/part one but at the fricking end he took her FRICKING AGAIN!!!
>removes white character and adds black character in a single move
>zero purpose