he wanted her broken in first, so he gave his prize to a psychopath known to torture and mutilate people to be raped repeatedly and somehow not impregnated
In the books he wants Sansa to be his daughter (who he molests occasionally) and is angling to make her queen of the north. The show is moronic so he just gets her raped instead which is not something you normally do to your waifu.
is he planning on raping Sansa after he wins the game of thrones? he has major Catelyn oneitis but it's not made clear whether he abandons that or not
and his infatuation with Sansa suggest not
though like you posted she may just be a means to a grand end
Idk about "raping", but he's 100% grooming her. He half sees her as the daughter he could've had with Catelyn, and half as a version of Catelyn he can finally frick. When he dies in the books, it will 100% be as a result of his soft spot towards her
>When he dies in the books, it will 100% be as a result of his soft spot towards her
He’s literally the Oliver Cromwell of Game of Thrones. He’s going to win
>When he dies in the books, it will 100% be as a result of his soft spot towards her
I think there's no doubt you're right
>When he dies in the books, it will 100% be as a result of his soft spot towards her
He’s literally the Oliver Cromwell of Game of Thrones. He’s going to win
I'm more interested in a recent GRRM, where he said at one point recently he realised he killed a character he actually needs for the ending.
Any idea whom he meant?
I was thinking Miri Mazdur. By the way, how many people realised that her name is the warped word "Maester"?
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Anonymous
>Miri Mazdur
elaborate
11 months ago
Anonymous
He needed someone to reveal to the world that Daenerys is a fire wight, and has actually died on that pyre and was resurrected by Mirri's magic.
11 months ago
Anonymous
its Keven Lannister or Beric Dondarrion assuming there is any truth to this BS(which there probably isn't).
11 months ago
Anonymous
He needed someone to reveal to the world that Daenerys is a fire wight, and has actually died on that pyre and was resurrected by Mirri's magic.
I recently re-read the whole series and I was intrigued by the amount of importance given to Marwin the Mage.
Miri claims to have learned healing arts from him in making her pitch to Dany. He also bookends AFFC.
Too bad we'll never get any more books.
idk about rape, but book LF is still hung up on Catelyn and views Sansa as her continuation, so it's a kind of a dad/future prospect dynamic. atm he is mostly dadding her, although once in a while he commands her to kiss him on the lips
>so heres the plan sis im gonna act like im threatening you in this secluded room where its only you and me in order to trick Littlefinger into thinking were enemies
If the audience didn't drop the show right then and there (or even sooner) they fricking deserved the ending. Imagine taking it seriously after such a moronic display.
>It's okay when we execute someone without a trial because we're the good guys >But it's not okay when Dany does it because she will be a bad guy later
They make out the rape was the worst thing in the world when really she was treated perfectly fine by the Boltons
the show is essentially middle ages where women like her were traded like pokemon cards
There are far worse scenes than the rape which the media promptly ignored because it didn't fit their narrative. The Mountain torturing people at Harrenhal, Joffrey torturing prostitutes, The cannibal wildlings killing Olly's parents, etc.
>implying a civil war didn't erupt immediately after the credits rolled because: >the standing royal army was defeated and then war crimed to death by the unsullied and dothraki >one of the seven kingdoms seceded (da norf) >another was wiped out completely (highgarden) >two have no leadership and already culturally hate everyone else (dorne and iron islands) >another was casually granted to a random bastard blacksmith with no leadership experience with no ties to the existing nobility he just cut in line (stormlands) >the wall no longer exists and wildlings are free to raid greater westeros unopposed
Zero. GRRM is a hack that relies on muh subversions as a crutch to make people think he's a good writer. He still writes in nothing but cliches and isn't intelligent enough to take things to their logical conclusions so the "bad" guys won't win even though quite literally there is nothing short of deus ex machina to ensure they won't, which GRRM himself even recognizes, which is also why he isn't working on the series anymore and hopes to just die and have it remembered as an unfinished magnum opus whose creator was tragically taken before he could finish writing what would surely be the greatest ending of all time.
I've always found it annoying that every "morally ambiguous" story has a bunch of unambiguously evil guys. They just don't balance it with good guys for edge's sake.
what is with you gay parroting this argument >major theme of series is the shades of morality >hurr durr why is there bad guys???
99% evil is indistinguishable from 100% evil
for all we know Gregor has a kind heart under all that bloody plate steel and opium
Because it's just mindless grimdark BS that there are like 50 99% bad guys and really only one or two 99% good guys in the show (Ned and Jon, not counting Robb because him marrying that b***h was wholly selfish and impulsive.)
>I dont have to talk in this weird creepy voice >But I do so in order to make sure everyone understands that I'm an evil and not to be trusted >Yes it is hard to talk like this all the time I usually go to bed with a sore throat
Yeah which is sort of the point of his betrayal, it's all the more shocking. He never goes full supervillain like in the show, he still remains unassuming and he people overlook him time and time again.
>Season 2 opens with Cersei arresting him and threatening him >Instead of executing or exiling him he gets to stay on the small council and keep doing his normal shit
LOL
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Anonymous
Because everyone in the show is shoot moronic.
11 months ago
Anonymous
That one is excusable because the whole point of Cersei is that she is the dumbest person to ever live.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Her chapters are hilarious though, especially towards the later books.
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Anonymous
There's an even bigger plothole in the novels: >Be Tyrion Lannister. >Almost get killed, several times, and imprisoned, several times, due to being accused of the assassination attempt on Bran. >Go to King's Landing, and become Hand of the King. >You KNOW that Littlefinger is the owner of the dagger used for the assassination. >You KNOW Littlefinger caused the War of the Five Kings. >You KNOW Littlefinger caused you all this grief. >You now have unlimited power. >You do nothing, even though nobody would bat an eyelash if Littlefinger got executed.
>acts like a cartoon villain >builds a thousand ships within a week without any wood >whole motivation is him wanting to frick a queen, any queen >pops out of thin air several times to destroy Daenerys fleet without suffering any casualties
>suddenly becomes obsessed with killing jaime lannister at the end, proudly dying with a smile on his face that he's "the man who killed jaime lannister" even though nobody will know it and surely being the man who killed a dragon is a much more legendary feat than beating a washed up sister fricking cripple
So how would Westeros react to a crippled king on the Iron Throne that has no connection to the Targaryen bloodline, a high likelihood of not be able to produce heirs and being nearly completely detached from reality?
I love the internet not realizing King Bran is akin to Children of Dune
They don’t have to like it. They have no choice. An omniscient child god controls their lives now.
Because people assume that it is still Bran, and he's going to be some benevolent ruler that will usher in a century of peace. When it's more likely to be a century of hellish torment worse than before
I'm going to laugh so hard at you Stannisgays when the book comes out and your homosexual kinslayer king burns his child to appease the witch prostitute.
so does Littlefinger want to rape Sansa or not?
im a bookgay and I still don't know
he wanted her broken in first, so he gave his prize to a psychopath known to torture and mutilate people to be raped repeatedly and somehow not impregnated
I said bookgay I saw the show
In the books he wants Sansa to be his daughter (who he molests occasionally) and is angling to make her queen of the north. The show is moronic so he just gets her raped instead which is not something you normally do to your waifu.
>In the books he wants Sansa to be his daughter (who he molests occasionally
Literally every man with an attractive step-daughter.
Imagine being dead and your wife AND daughter start getting fricked by the same guy
Ned only loved desert pussy. cat was forced on him.
I'm not talking about Ned I just meant irl
>im a bookgay and I still don't know
You should.
is he planning on raping Sansa after he wins the game of thrones? he has major Catelyn oneitis but it's not made clear whether he abandons that or not
and his infatuation with Sansa suggest not
though like you posted she may just be a means to a grand end
Idk about "raping", but he's 100% grooming her. He half sees her as the daughter he could've had with Catelyn, and half as a version of Catelyn he can finally frick. When he dies in the books, it will 100% be as a result of his soft spot towards her
>When he dies in the books, it will 100% be as a result of his soft spot towards her
I think there's no doubt you're right
>When he dies in the books, it will 100% be as a result of his soft spot towards her
He’s literally the Oliver Cromwell of Game of Thrones. He’s going to win
he's one character I'm pretty sure will die
That would be a hecking bad ending though??
I'm more interested in a recent GRRM, where he said at one point recently he realised he killed a character he actually needs for the ending.
Any idea whom he meant?
Maybe Aemon?
I was thinking Miri Mazdur. By the way, how many people realised that her name is the warped word "Maester"?
>Miri Mazdur
elaborate
He needed someone to reveal to the world that Daenerys is a fire wight, and has actually died on that pyre and was resurrected by Mirri's magic.
its Keven Lannister or Beric Dondarrion assuming there is any truth to this BS(which there probably isn't).
I recently re-read the whole series and I was intrigued by the amount of importance given to Marwin the Mage.
Miri claims to have learned healing arts from him in making her pitch to Dany. He also bookends AFFC.
Too bad we'll never get any more books.
Kevan Lannister
his audience
He needs Jojen but unfortunately turned him into blood oatmeal and fed him to Bran.
No he wants to marry Sansa to the heir of the Vale
idk about rape, but book LF is still hung up on Catelyn and views Sansa as her continuation, so it's a kind of a dad/future prospect dynamic. atm he is mostly dadding her, although once in a while he commands her to kiss him on the lips
Everybody wants to rape Sansa
fake news, that's supposed to be Catelyn, it's literally a passage out of her chapter in AGOT
that's catelyn
>im a bookgay and I still don't know
are you mentally challenged?
>loses to a magic cripple
ASSSU BOSHE
>so heres the plan sis im gonna act like im threatening you in this secluded room where its only you and me in order to trick Littlefinger into thinking were enemies
Or she's proving she could kill her if she wanted but obviously doesn't want to be a lady
But if they hadn't had this scene how would we the audience know they were having fake tensions?!
bastards, i hate being jerked around when it's not supposed to be a schizo production
If the audience didn't drop the show right then and there (or even sooner) they fricking deserved the ending. Imagine taking it seriously after such a moronic display.
My faith in a good ending died there, but I had to see what would happen
>It's okay when we execute someone without a trial because we're the good guys
>But it's not okay when Dany does it because she will be a bad guy later
>last two seasons were so bad that it literally ruined the careers of everybody involved
BRAVO DAVID!
lemon cakes peaked at 15 has sad breasts and married a sand Black person,little finger didn't die alone.
They make out the rape was the worst thing in the world when really she was treated perfectly fine by the Boltons
the show is essentially middle ages where women like her were traded like pokemon cards
There are far worse scenes than the rape which the media promptly ignored because it didn't fit their narrative. The Mountain torturing people at Harrenhal, Joffrey torturing prostitutes, The cannibal wildlings killing Olly's parents, etc.
>I was raped. Now I am the smartest person in Westeros and the bestest player in the Game. And I deserve to be Queen now.
>dies without an heir
>cue civil war
Brave and POWERFUL
>hmm, who's her closest living relative? King Bran? Ok, back to Seven Kingdoms!
>implying a civil war didn't erupt immediately after the credits rolled because:
>the standing royal army was defeated and then war crimed to death by the unsullied and dothraki
>one of the seven kingdoms seceded (da norf)
>another was wiped out completely (highgarden)
>two have no leadership and already culturally hate everyone else (dorne and iron islands)
>another was casually granted to a random bastard blacksmith with no leadership experience with no ties to the existing nobility he just cut in line (stormlands)
>the wall no longer exists and wildlings are free to raid greater westeros unopposed
Didn't all the wildlings die or migrate south in the show though?
>Queen Sansa in the north
>King Bran in the south
>All the other houses sitting there totally cool with it
Remember when the earlier seasons established the whole conflict as a chess game between Littlefinger and Varys? I remember.
Having a "bad guy" win the game of thrones just isn't in keeping with the early seasons of the show
It's clear the deceitful adviser character has to die but it doesn't have to be stupid like what we got
Littlefinger is my favourite character and I want him to win. What are the chances of that happening in the books? Never read them.
Zero. GRRM is a hack that relies on muh subversions as a crutch to make people think he's a good writer. He still writes in nothing but cliches and isn't intelligent enough to take things to their logical conclusions so the "bad" guys won't win even though quite literally there is nothing short of deus ex machina to ensure they won't, which GRRM himself even recognizes, which is also why he isn't working on the series anymore and hopes to just die and have it remembered as an unfinished magnum opus whose creator was tragically taken before he could finish writing what would surely be the greatest ending of all time.
Test
AND HARRENHAL
>Off the table.
>Uncle, you shall now be known as Edmure the Sitter
>There are no dark lords in my story. Everyone has their shades of gray.
>Oh yeah The Mountain that rapes lol
Dark side: rapes and murders everyone
Light side: is huge aka makes all women wet
the mountain is redeemable
the Gods are merciful
I've always found it annoying that every "morally ambiguous" story has a bunch of unambiguously evil guys. They just don't balance it with good guys for edge's sake.
what is with you gay parroting this argument
>major theme of series is the shades of morality
>hurr durr why is there bad guys???
99% evil is indistinguishable from 100% evil
for all we know Gregor has a kind heart under all that bloody plate steel and opium
Because it's just mindless grimdark BS that there are like 50 99% bad guys and really only one or two 99% good guys in the show (Ned and Jon, not counting Robb because him marrying that b***h was wholly selfish and impulsive.)
>50 99% bad guys
name 5
>for all we know Gregor has a kind heart
He bashed a baby against the wall repeatedly, and killed a guy for snoring too loud.
But he likes dogs
>He bashed a baby against the wall
had to be done m8
>raped a waitress in front of her father
Let's just give him a second chance guys, I'm sure he's a good guy deep down
There are lots of good guys in the book tho Ned Stark for one is obvious
Dude was born with crippling migraines his only distraction is fighting people and drugs
Being born tall really does sound like a curse at times
RIP Andre
The roip Shanshaw the roip
And who has a better story than Bran the Broken?
Bran chapters in the later books are actually pretty good but oh my frick is was it hard not to skip them prior to Theon's capture of Winterfell
Bran becoming fantasy FDR was a moronic direction from the beginning
Movie name?
>Normies all expected King Jon and Queen Dany on the Throne
>One dies, the other is exiled and the crippled weirdo takes all the glory
D&D absolutely buttblasted the annoying 'fans' of this shitheap of a series so much, I actually kind of admire them
He's going to rewrite the ending, not that he's going to finish them before he dies.
if he's not a total moron he'll have private cliffnotes and a backup writer authenticated legally
important even if you're not old and fat
>if he's not a total moron
lol. lmao.
>he'll have private cliffnotes and a backup writer authenticated legally
he literally doesn't, he hates everyone. i'm pretty sure he is leaving it unfinished on purpose out of spite.
>I dont have to talk in this weird creepy voice
>But I do so in order to make sure everyone understands that I'm an evil and not to be trusted
>Yes it is hard to talk like this all the time I usually go to bed with a sore throat
Littlefinger ASMR
>"how was your day, shansha?"
>"aw, was work tough?"
>"tssssk tsssk tsk tsk tsk tsk"
this actor did a good job in Love/Hate as coke lord
kino Irish gang show
Season 1 is the only one where he acted as he should, more or less - a friendly, jovial, unassuming man whom nobody treats as any kind of threat.
Yeah which is sort of the point of his betrayal, it's all the more shocking. He never goes full supervillain like in the show, he still remains unassuming and he people overlook him time and time again.
>Season 2 opens with Cersei arresting him and threatening him
>Instead of executing or exiling him he gets to stay on the small council and keep doing his normal shit
LOL
Because everyone in the show is shoot moronic.
That one is excusable because the whole point of Cersei is that she is the dumbest person to ever live.
Her chapters are hilarious though, especially towards the later books.
There's an even bigger plothole in the novels:
>Be Tyrion Lannister.
>Almost get killed, several times, and imprisoned, several times, due to being accused of the assassination attempt on Bran.
>Go to King's Landing, and become Hand of the King.
>You KNOW that Littlefinger is the owner of the dagger used for the assassination.
>You KNOW Littlefinger caused the War of the Five Kings.
>You KNOW Littlefinger caused you all this grief.
>You now have unlimited power.
>You do nothing, even though nobody would bat an eyelash if Littlefinger got executed.
Too busy fricking Shae
I liked book Varys being some fat sneaky prick who has dozens of disguises and scurries around the tunnels of King's Landing.
This can't be happening! I'm in charge here!
>tfw you're usually the puppetmaster in these situations
is Sansa vaping?
Boys are so fricking disgusting
I didn't believe this was a real scene for so long. I was waiting for them to reveal Littlefinger alive and he somehow faked this.
You and this entire thread is coping. It's a great scene, nuff said
I'm baffled such people exist. How can they consume everything with literally zero reflection?
These people are called, and may Allah forgive me for uttering this word, women.
but this is the real scene
just started Season 7 @ https://bongstream.live/
Man ASOIAF is such a great series, can't wait until they do a proper adaptation
>acts like a cartoon villain
>builds a thousand ships within a week without any wood
>whole motivation is him wanting to frick a queen, any queen
>pops out of thin air several times to destroy Daenerys fleet without suffering any casualties
top notch writing
It's insane how much worse they made him in the show because they already had a bunch of good material to work with that wouldn't make him so lame
they looked at audience feedback and decided that Cersei needed to be hyped up as the main villain.
whoops replied to the wrong poster, writers shouldn't be allowed to browse the internet
>suddenly becomes obsessed with killing jaime lannister at the end, proudly dying with a smile on his face that he's "the man who killed jaime lannister" even though nobody will know it and surely being the man who killed a dragon is a much more legendary feat than beating a washed up sister fricking cripple
book euron sounds kinda interesting, when did he show up? because the show never used him until VERY late
Book 4 I think.
So how would Westeros react to a crippled king on the Iron Throne that has no connection to the Targaryen bloodline, a high likelihood of not be able to produce heirs and being nearly completely detached from reality?
He can fricking see everything
they'd probably be a bit weirded out when he lived to be 100+ years old.
I love the internet not realizing King Bran is akin to Children of Dune
They don’t have to like it. They have no choice. An omniscient child god controls their lives now.
Except that Bran's not inside anymore since his body was stolen
Ok? Neither is Leto. Most of his personality and strategy is being controlled by some ancient Pharaoh who lives inside his genetic memory
Because people assume that it is still Bran, and he's going to be some benevolent ruler that will usher in a century of peace. When it's more likely to be a century of hellish torment worse than before
>And Harrenhal? Aysha Pohzat's off the table as well?
Why did they never explain who this Aysha person is? Why does little guy want her?
Stannis is my favourite character.
Thoughts?
You dropped this, king.
Thanks, king.
Lmao.
Based but I prefer Davos for being the loyal bro. I'm also a Sam gay with Lord of the Rings.
onion knight is the best character in the show and a total bro. Liam cunningham is a total chad.
I was hoping his literature lessons would lead to him writing A Song of Ice and Fire. Oh well.
I just got done with the main books, what's next in the ideal reading order?
Dunc and Egg
>ignite Shireen
Why did D&D have to make Stannis cartoonishly evil towards the end?
I'm going to laugh so hard at you Stannisgays when the book comes out and your homosexual kinslayer king burns his child to appease the witch prostitute.
If that's the case then she better get rekt too.
It's alright, I was able to obtain the last two books after some espionage at GRRM's residence. Picrelated is the final chapter.
Is this really from the books? Because it reads like cheap fanfiction and people claim the books are masterpieces or some shit.
they're good stories but George's prose game is a bit weak