>So successful it started a new One Piece anime
Why do people love One Piece so much?
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>So successful it started a new One Piece anime
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Its fun.
Its not fun.
It's a long running fantasy series with all the archetypal stuff people like (idealistic heroes, beautiful damsels, evil rulers, fearless rebels, mysterious mythology) and without the derivative Tolkien/DnD/Star Wars iconography they're sick of.
This. Oda is the greatest fantasy writer that came after Tolkien.
oda isnt even good enough to lick tolkiens balls
What is the world government’s tax policy?
The heavenly tribute. It is simply calculated through the population of an island with no demographic considerations. If a nation fails to pay its heavenly tribute, its WG membership is removed and by extension its marine protection. This makes the island ripe pickings for pirates and other opportunists. In light of this, rulers have tried to reduce their population by either killing or exiling their undesirables to lighten the burden of the celestial tribute.
The tax policy differs in teritorries outside of the WG sphere of influence. For example, taxes in TOTOLAND are paid with one's lifespan, one month per year per citizen.
World Government bases it off population density and the individual kingdoms set their own additional taxes after paying the world government
...and trannsexual caricatures and a woman being passed off as a man. That's what everyone wants in their media.
Who’s the woman passing off as a man and why’s that a problem
Lmao, I’m at that arc now (started show last year) and first thing I thought about was how this will or if even get adapted assuming the show remains successful long enough
There is a whole troony island - that’s the actual name and had a full body morphing scene, the anime changed the dialogue but how will the live action deal with it? It has actual plot significance
Watched this the other day and enjoyed it. Never watched the cartoon.
A lot of this was definitely a factor in me liking it. It also didn't suffer from the cynicism that's usually present in western franchises where the hero is grumpy or is an anti-hero or has constant conflict within himself and his crew. He's just a good guy who will keep being a good guy and win people over by proving that he really is a good guy.
There's not enough good guys in stories anymore.
Also I really like Sanji. I'm a sucker for hands-in-pockets Tae Kwon Do.
>idealistic heroes
The "heroes" are criminal scum pirates
>beautiful damsels
The drawing is ugly af
Go back to your desk, Akainu
>NOBODY CAN HURT MY FRIENDS HURR DURR
so clicheic iq0 dumb story as hell. Children show with horrible actors overhyped and sold like serious show
>The "heroes" are criminal scum pirates
Seethe
They're freedom fighters against a corrupt, authoritarian government
t. Cop
>The "heroes" are criminal scum pirates
name ONE scummy thing the Strawhats have done, aside from stealing food
Realistically, how many innocent people died when luffu gear fourthd dressrosa? Also zoro explicitly kills a bunch of unarmed people in wano.
>how many innocent people died when luffu gear fourthd dressrosa
that's the same as blaming Superman when he was fighting Zod in Metropolis, does that make him scum too?
>zoro explicitly kills a bunch of unarmed people
when did that happen?
Luffy freeing all the prisoners from Impel Down to save Ace. I’m sure there were a fair amount of innocents unjustly locked away, but chances are there were probably more scumbag killers and thieves comparatively
Wasnt Buggy the guy who actually went around releasing prisoners, though? I don’t remember if that was another farce or not that they call him the mastermind of impel down
They stole a bunch of shit from Skypea
You're the equivalent of the mentally disabled village kid screaming that the sky is gonna fall
>beautiful damsels
2d and 3d
Only Nojiko is really egregious, most are just the transition to 3dpd.
Though Coby is gonna have an interesting time later on trying to get swole and broad-shouldered.
the cat girl is hot, end of statement
My homie
>A Fantasy show that actually is fantasy in it's execution
In other words, Amazon absolutely failed with WoT and RoP
Amazon would've made nami the main character, luffy a comedy relief that needs to be saved by women, zoro black, sanji gay
so it would have made a dumb show even dumber
Buggy spinoff when?
Buggy, Sanji and Shanks carried the show
Buggy is already on track to becoming pirate king
Buggy is certified based
>Luffy at some point has to choose between the safety of his nakama or One Piece
>Luffy realises that his nakama are more important
>doesn't go to Laugh Tale
>Buggy finds One Piece instead
>The One Piece was the Nakama you made along the way all along
Bravo Oda.
Maybe a movie/special.
This but with Mihawk instead of Shanks. Also Garp was really cool, but he wasn't truly Garp
Buggy gets a spin-off in the Manga, he's the front page panel for two years, and without dialogue has a mini-adventure to get his limbs back. They also flesh out his backstory with Shanks via flashbacks & he becomes a bigger but distant threat again while Luffy and his crew move away from his area. Not quite a warlord of the sea, but Buggy moves up in the global ranking of pirates.
>Not quite a warlord of the sea
He's almost - if not already - considered an Emperor
He's explicitly an Emperor post-Wano
When were you under the impression he wasn't the MC already?
Shit like this
>Weebs think this looks good
If you don't get it you don't get it
How is it any different from weird ass disproportionate western cartoons?
>a new One Piece anime
Really?
Yes, I don't really get the point though
I thought One Piece was gonna be impossible to adapt to live action given the over the top abilities, but they did Buggy without it looking moronic so I guess we'll see.
No idea how they're gonna do stuff like Chopper as part of main cast without an insane CGI budget though
>No idea how they're gonna do stuff like Chopper as part of main cast without an insane CGI budget though
Dude, we’ve had Ewoks and Baby Yoda. It can be done.
they'll have a bunch of problems in the future:
>CGI for Chopper and Brook
>handling Franky and Jimbei's body size
>CGI for Logia characters like Crocodile, Kizaru, Caribou, Caesar, Katakuri etc.
>giants like Broggy and Dorry and almost-giants like Kuma and Moria
>the whole Zou arc
>the scabbards' design
>crazy SMILE-users' designs, like the guy who got fused with a hippo
and don't get me started on Wano, Kaido, Big Mom and Minks. AND the biggest problem is that the actors will age considerably when they reach Marineford, while in-universe it was only a couple of months.
>>CGI for Chopper and Brook
Just make Chopper a Muppet and Brook a guy in an articulated skull mask.
i dislike these jobbers a lot
>Orochi had to be killed off like 4 times
>Kanjuro had to be killed off 3 times
>Kinemon should've clearly died but survived due to the dumbest asspull possible (LAW DIDN'T STITCH HIM UP AFTER PUNK HAZARD, APPARENTLY)
>meanwhile, Ashura Doji and Izo died after some bullshit wounds that barely kill anyone in One Piece universe
their plotline was such a mess
>thinking they’re going to get that far
We’ll see how they do with Smoker, and I wonder how they’re going to handle Alvida?
Anon the live action isn't going super crazy with the body proportions, look at arlong
When it comes to things like giants, you can easily just green screen actors to be gigantic
They'll probably try to go for CGI, but I honestly think for brook they should just green screen a puppet, it'd be hilarious
For Chopper, I'd imagine it'd be a mix of costume, CGI and puppet like disney did for baby yoda, depending on the specific scene, chances are high that multiple people are casted for the role based on his form
You really think this series will go far? It had a popular season 1 but when has that ever meant a guaranteed continued success?
This shit will fall off in season 2 and season 3 or 4 will be cancelled, it will never get anywhere close to outrageous shit like Moriah etc
This series couldn't even do Skypiea let alone Gear 5 or Marineford. Plus there's the issue of the actors aging. They already chose a post-wall roastie for Nami.
>E1088
How many do they need?
300 episodes if it was paced correctly.
Remaking the last few arcs makes sense since the pacing is complete dogshit due to it being weekly, but that doesn't really make sense without also remaking the early ones, so that's what I assume is the reason.
OPLA worked because Luffy is a great pit bawd in it
They wanted a companion series to the LA series and the OG anime wasn’t cutting it. Too shitty. So they made a new one that should ideally be of higher quality and more appealing to a wider audience.
They can cut out tons of filler which the anime is notorious for the same as shonen anime.
The initial arcs didn’t have any filler. They started adding filler later on and even padded out the canon stuff to stretch the arcs out. Completely fricked up the pacing.
it will be Updated For Modern Audiences
The original anime is bloated and terrible.
i wonder how many characters will be blackwashed
Maybe they want to do one of those in universe remake reboot timelines that you need to have fully consumed the original product to properly appreciate.
Like Rebuild of Eva or Final Fantasy VII Remake.
It's childhood nostalgia for gen Xers and older Millenials
>pirates and boats
>fun fights
It's a mystery
How are Netflix gonna adapt the okama without SJW outrage?
I wish Divine were still with us
Probably just by having them all be drag queens. Honestly it isn’t hard to make this inoffensive.
>Make Sanji less disgusted
>Make them less caricature-like by not giving them beards and leg hair
>Either explicitly call them trans or just make them all drag queens
And suddenly it’s progressive
>Implying that Netflix One Piece will live enough to get ANYWHERE near Sabaody.
Depends on how well they adapt Alabasta an Skypiea. The setpieces and storylines have potential to be big fan gainers because of the world building.
Well how exactly are they thinking on tackling the Sabaody, Amazon Lily, Impel Down, Marineford AND post-war arcs when they all happen one after the other in just a matter of days?
>Alabasta
Who's ready for black-as-coal Vivi and/or Robin?
Yikes, negress Hanwiener and/or negress Robin are the shittiest casting choices they can make
I avoided the manga/anime and watch the live version. Sure, some globohomosexual stuff here and there but very good. Will download the manga soon
One Piece was indeed good and the fact that it's live action has nothing to do with it more like because it's a reminiscent of when it was really about adventuring.This is how low OP fans have fallen after the time skip.The series died with haki and gear 5
Zoro has been using haki since Alabasta
Haki was introduced as a means of OFFICIAL power level after the time skip, stubble signs like Enel being able to predict movements or Shanks making WB crew lose consciousness doesn't count.Was Haki also introduced along with Mihawk and his black blade????
Haki as a concept was named and used well before the time-skip, you're just moronic and parroting opinions you've heard elsewhere
>subtle signs
>Shanks making WB crew lose consciousness
Whitebeard literally said shanks was showing off his haki, moron. I think it was the first time haki was mentioned explicitly
Teach mentioned it first in jaya
did you skip amazon lily?
Haki was shown as early as the part where Shanks saves Luffy from the Sea King
haki was introduced 20 years ago dipshit. secondaries man baka
Shanks used Haki against the sea serpent. We literally see both that and Garp using it in the LA series.
Gear 5 is what broke the camel's back for me. I hated it so much. I don't even care about the series anymore.
I just finished Punk Hazard and it's still very fun
Mainly in it for Chopper scenes and Luffy giving no fricks ever
I never read the manga, watched the anime, or really even knew much about it. It's just fun, silly, whimsical, and Luffy won me over with his sincere optimism and how he cared about everyone. I don't need more cynical grimdark shit or preachy shit. Just make watching shows fun again.
It's comfy, wholesome and fast paced. That's it. It's really straightforward. The characters are generally all likeable. There's a clear goal that they're working towards. And it never gets bogged down with meaningless shit you don't care about.
mid. only npcs think this is good
But enough about Naruto.
Same zgen crap
Every femanon on Cinemaphile wants to sex the zoro actor
Blimpy is actually the no1 target for all women who watched the show.
why would they try to do a live action of the wonkiest anime ive ever seen? how are they planning to adapt all the wacky shit?
only moronic fat kids think this is a good anime.
Watched LA and it was ok but nothing special
why do brown people love one piece so much
The protagonist is called Monkey so I can self insert
Same reason they love Goku over Vegeta. The fantasy of excellence without working for it, the fantasyt of encouraged violence, and pretty colours.
>excellence without working for it
Are you kidding me both dbz and one piece make a big deal about painful training and in both the main characters are working their asses off and bleeding most of the time they’re on panel. If anything I would say shonen is incredibly curricular in demonstrating the need for daily effort to achieve success
Goku's whole thing is that he's just naturally the best without training. Luffy ate a devilfruit. They were gifted. Characters like Vegeta trained, but the browns don't watch DBZ for Vegeta.
They both train their asses off, you’re totally wrong lmao. Manga timelines are fast sure but Goku trains all the time from when he was raised by a martial arts master, when he’s alone as a kid, at home, with king kai, on the ship to namek, on yardrat, in the afterlife again, in the hyperbolic time chamber, and so forth, like every chance he gets. It’s practically his main thing
As for Luffy, when he got the gum gum fruit he couldn’t even throw a proper pistol punch, and they have an entire arc about Luffy Ace and Sabo all specifically training together in the wild so they can become strong pirates, from ages like 10-15 every day, until Ace sets off and Luffy trained more on his own (shown once again the most current chapter), and then he trains for two years against giant beasts in Amazon Lily with occasional training from Silvers Rayleigh himself.
You’re just saying something you think makes sense, but that you never thought about. Out of all forms of media manga is pretty much the only one with a main direct focus of training and ‘doing your homework’ out of anything. I’m pretty sure a big part of it is motivating Japanese students to keep working hard and studying
>It’s practically his main thing
Eating is his main thing. And being an absent father.
You're accidentally proving me right, by the way, without even realising it. Beg you read the first few chapters of both manga again and realise you're an idiot.
How is Goku an absent father?
He chose to be absent for most of Gohan’s teen years.
He chose to respect the rules of the gods you mean. Furthermore, Goku realized that he's the reason everything bad that threatens the Earth can be traced back to him and the day he returns SHTF proving him more or less right. Him staying in the afterlife and away from Earth was the greater good.
By actively not being there for his son? That's why blacks love Piccolo so much. They identify with Gohan being abandoned and wish they had someone like Piccolo who stepped in and made sure they were raised right.
I don't know what TFS stands for. Your mistake is comparing Goku to his enemies. That's not where "unearned excellence" is shown. The unearned excellence is in his genes as a Saiyan. He is above all humans (that's what brown people are, believe it or not). People don't fantasise about being Goku in the DBZ world. They fantasise about being Goku in OUR world.
They identify with Piccolo because he is black. He even has a black love interest now
Go find any comments online where blacks are talking about Piccolo. Read how about 90% of them mention him being Gohan's real dad. It's more than just Piccolo being black-coded or whatever. It's Piccolo being a (black) non-absent, strong paternal figure to an abandoned child.
>Read how about 90% of them mention him being Gohan's real dad
Because they watched TFS and not the actual series.
Goku has lost many times, I don't think you've actually seen DB.
>Your mistake is comparing Goku to his enemies.
This post is moronic.
Goku starts off as a strong baby for sure but he fights and trains every day of his life and he gets stronger for it. They have training arcs, they show him in gyms, they invent sci-do training machines for him, between and within almost every arc they have an entire storyline about how Goku trained got stronger for the next battle. It happens all the fricking time. Just because Goku is the ultimate warrior doesn’t mean he doesn’t train every day, because he does
>Goku starts off as a strong baby for sure
Cool. We're agreed then. Goku has unearned excellence compared to us.
And he trains more than anyone. Just cut the cynical shit, you’re just running on old hare-brained complaints you never thought about
Goku was legit an underdog in the original series. He was powerful compared to a regular person like Bulma, but average or a schmuck to other fighters. Dude had to train his ass off to become god-like.
No he wasn’t lol. Dude mastered the kamehameha in like a day when it took Roshi decades. Goku took out the Red Ribbon army solo. Goku also got some bullshit buffs like the Holy Water to defeat King Piccolo. He was never an underdog until the saiyan saga
Goku’s whole thing is that he’s literally weaker than every guy he’s set against until he trains or grows during the battle, lmao. There is no main villain Goku is strong enough to beat from the start, in Z at least
Remember that time when Goku was weaker than Frieza and then he just got angry and suddenly wasn't? Good times.
Yeah when he literally fricking got stronger during the battle because he finally experienced the real true anger that activates his potential because Krillin was killed?
Eating is literally the second half of training. It’s how you build muscle, using calories and protein, how have you never understood this?
>Yeah when he literally fricking got stronger during the battle because he finally experienced the real true anger that activates his potential because Krillin was killed?
Yeah that's the "unearned excellence" in action. You can't just emote into a new level of strength IRL. It's genuinely stunning how you're unable to grasp this. Goku is literally born different. That's the appeal. He didn't have to work to be better than normal humans. Seriously, how many times do I need to repeat this?
Above is aimed at you too, monkey brain. People like the power fantasy of just magically being better than other PEOPLE. Not aliens or dinosaurs or gods. PEOPLE. The thing that we actually interact with every day of our lives. You daydream about busting out a Kamehameha against your school bully, not against Cthulu. You daydream about going Super Saiyan against a kidnapper, not against Godzilla. That's the appeal of almost all of these characters. From Goku to Superman to Spider-Man to Luffy. They were gifted with abilities beyond mere humans. And THEN they train.
Getting angry literally does make people more powerful, especially when done right. And he trained on the way to Namek and gained incredible power by working his ass off fighting the whole time, the power up due to near death is a lucky superpower, I agree, but he got it by working his ass off taking hits and fighting for days. How many training arcs and chapters where Goku trains are you going to ignore?
>Getting angry literally does make people more powerful,
No it doesn't. It makes people stop holding back. If your limit is lifting 200lbs, you won't lift 400lbs by being angry.
>And he trains more than anyone
Irrelevant. He has unearned excellence that he compounds on top of with training, but he has unearned excellence all the same. And that's the appeal. People want to wake up better than everyone else. It's really that simple. It's not my fault you worship anime and can't understand such a simple premise as "people wish they had superpowers" lol.
>irrelevant
No actually this whole conversation is about how you said these characters are a fantasy of not doing any work. All these characters work harder than most anyone alive. The excellence is the same as the basic notion of talent itself. Some people (probably lots of people) have great potential and they achieve it by training. Baby Goku can’t beat King Picollo, he hd to work his ass off to become the guy who could
>Goku's whole thing is that he's just naturally the best without training
>Eating is his main thing. And being an absent father.
As always the anti-Goku tard embarrasses himself by simultaneously thinking Goku doesn't train and Goku is a bad father for prioritizing training above his family. TFS fan I'm guessing?
>Goku's whole thing is that he's just naturally the best without training.
lmao what
Goku trains constantly, he's not autistic to the level of Vegeta about it but most of his life is him training martial arts.
In terms of natural ability Broly and Frieza are significantly stronger
It is pure unpozzed fun. One Piece has lots of fan service, male characters allowed to be masculine, female characters allowed to be feminine, trannies being actual butt-ugly freaks and at the same time having diversity without shoving Black folk at every corner, etc.
too big
Too gay
Reminder: don't watch Netflixs adaptation, they're woke trash who hate fanservice and don't have the balls to sexualize female characters, theyll censor every Nami outfit, theyll censor every Robin outfit, theyll remove any and all lewd fanservice scenes, don't support woke trash or theyll keep making trash without female nudity nor female lewdness
>don't have the balls to sexualize female characters
I distinctly remember Nami feeling up at least one marine and it had a gratuitous amount of low angle shots showing off her thighs and her short skirt.
>gratuitous amount of low angle shots showing off her thighs and her short skirt.
>he doesnt like thighs
homie get off the internet. porn has rotted your brain.
I like thighs but thats not coomer at all, get some standards
I repeat, your brain is rotted. If you can't find sexual appeal in nice thighs because you can't see the labia at the same time, then you're mentally FRICKED.
1. Midriff > thighs
2. Leotards are indeed sexy however arent a thing in nu capeshit due to California sensibilities and it all started with the MCU, going mainstream is what makes franchises go politically correct
women feel threatened by other women flaunting their stuff, this is literally what it is about, not some feminist screed
And the problem is that said women run Wokeflix, which is why itll be shit
>waah waah waah
Go watch porn if you want boobs
>Still seething from the 4kids dub after nearly two decades
You don't get it, Wokeflix is the new 4kids and Ameritards will defend censorship
are those real?
Yes
I was worried about that too but netflix nami actually showed more skin than she did in those early manga chapters
For now
This show suffers from something relatively common in modern TV. The secondary characters and the actors who play them are much more charismatic and interesting than the actors and characters with the highest billing. I think casting agents think hiring bland actors in lead roles makes the characters more relatable? I don't get it. This is why so many show runners complain that people like villainous characters more than the "good" characters. They should try casting better actors.
I liked the Hispanic.
He always looks like he's trying to act.
They're going to remake the anime to make Usopp black. It's so painfully fricking obvious.
I always thought he was a light skinned black guy (thus the lips.)
dont japs think europeans have massive noses though? so maybe the nose means he's white.
He is. Oda confirmed he was African and because he’s Japanese, African = black.
>"Make" him black
>Character with brown skin, an afro, and big-ass lips
He was always black, you idiot.
sunk-cost fallacy
Do that ever add any more hot girls to the crew or is it all Nami and Robin?
It's a world full of super-powered characters but it's not Marvel or DC superheroes. It is loaded with worldbuilding and lore. It has a timeline that keeps developing as the series happens which extends beyond the heroes. It's not woke but it's not counterwoke either. It has themes and commentary but properly dresses them up in fantasy and allegory and addresses them according to the reality of the world. It prioritizes delivering on its promises of goofiness and action and whimsy over any message though.
One Piece started in the mid-90s. Its creator may have lost a step or two since but he still has the same creative spirit now as he did then. That means that One Piece delivers a throwback experience which is a desperate gasp of fresh air today.
A lot of what makes One Piece appealing is in what it does not do.
>Why do people love One Piece so much?
I WANT TO BE FREE!
Because it’s fun.
>The excellence is the same as the basic notion of talent itself
Yes, exactly. This is the weird thing. You're actually understanding what I'm saying, but you're so autistically offended at someone minimising Goku's training (jesus frick go outside), that you're ignoring the premise of the conversation. People daydream about being talented. People don't daydream about working for 15 years to become good at singing, they wish to have been born with it. Same thing for Goku. People wish to wake up with Goku's power and strength, the same way Goku did by virtue of not being born human. Same way Spider-Man did by virtue of being bitten by a spider. Same way Luffy did by virtue of eating a devilfruit. People fantasise about BEING BETTER AND STRONG AND MORE POWERFUL THAN OTHER HUMANS OTHER HUMANS OTHER HUMANS OTHER HUMANS without working for it. I made sure to repeat the "other humans" bit to try to get it through your thick fricking skull this time.
People want to be talented. People don't dream about being disciplined.
After Luffy ate his DF, he couldn't even throw a punch properly because his arms would just stretch and flop around uselessly
If this is the best you can muster up as an argument against the premise "people like the idea of having superpowers" then I think we're done here lol.
I wasn't the anon you were arguing with, I just wanted to belong
That’s not what you said, you said people like the idea of not having to work. Move your goalposts if you want
I actually said specifically that brown people love the fantasy of excellence without working for it. Which I have mantained throughout this argument. Superpowers are excellence without work. No brown man watches One Piece and thinks "I should learn Tae Kwon Do". They think "I wish I could do what Luffy does".
I've addressed this before. You're comparing him to non-humans, which obviously we as humans wouldn't be doing. If you woke up as Goku tomorrow, you would be the strongest person in human history, forever and always. That's the fantasy.
>You're comparing him to non-humans
Goku isn't a human either, he's a Saiyan just like Broly.
Your initial statement that Goky is naturally the best without training is moronic
>Goku isn't a human either
Yes? Please read my posts before jumping in and trying to work out what's being talked about mid-convo.
For the record, with equal training, no Saiyan can beat Goku, cuz Goku is "talented".
>no Saiyan can beat Goku
Except for Raditz, who forced Goku to cooperate with Piccolo to sacrifice himself to kill Raditz...or Vegeta who Goku's ultimate technique didn't even kill him and Yajirobe ( a human) had to save the day.... or Broly who they had to asspull a one-punch filled with everyones' ki moment because the creators of the movie ran out of ideas, etc..
The only saiyan Goku properly beats out is Nappa.
>Raditz is stronger than Goku
o i am laffin
He technically was and the only reason they won was due to as stated earlier self-sacrifice and the fact that the saiyan race's inherent weakness of the tail stunning them leaves him open to attacks (well that and Gohan's headbutt doing significant damage to Raditz).
>Raditz stronger than Goku
loooool
He was you idiot, that’s how he killed Goku. Are you compressing Goku’s entire storyline into him at his strongest? Is that why you’ve been so stupid this whole time? Because you’re skipping the entire story?
Yeah that’s what I’m saying, your whole argument revolves around your desire to insult spics, has nothing to do with Dragonball, what it means to train a pre-existing talent, or the content of the manga. You’ve just been talking shit
I'm actually not attempting to insult hispanics at all. At least now I know that your argument this whole time as been an emotional reaction to a perceived slight that never even happened. It makes things make a lot more sense. No normal human would react so passionately to defend Goku's training regime. But they would react this way if they were brown and thought their race was being insulted.
My commentary was no more insulting than if I had said that Germans enjoy rules and regiment.
You are so fricking hare-brained dude
I accept your concession. I have no idea why it took you this long to realise you were wrong.
Lmao the way you talk to yourself, man. Like why even interact with people when you’re just flattering yourself anyways
There's nothing in my post about me at all. It's all very specifically addressing you. I know you're brown, but I figured you'd at least have a grasp of the language you're trying to argue in. You were offended on Cinemaphile by something you imagined was a racial slight. You'll survive.
What a narrative man, lmao, see this is what I'm talking about
To be fair, if I lost an argument as hard as you just did, I'd probably resort to this mess you've resorted to as well. The desperate reaching for some smug satisfaction where you can pretend you "won" in some weird vague moral sense. It's a pretty pathetic tactic, but we've all been there I suppose. You'll reply to this post with the same thing too, because now you're in too deep and your ego is badly bruised enough that you can't let it go. Watch.
All stories are about excellent people, they all possess some trait or talent that hooks the reader.
There are billions of stories about awful people, shitty people, mundane people. Your post is nonsense.
And those traits still make them exceptional or could lead to something exceptional.
>being mundane makes them exceptional
moron lol
Unironically yes depending on the story, like if they eventually rise up out of it, something most people won't experience.
Again, there are billions of stories of mundane people living mundane lives where nothing exceptional happens to anyone in the story. Is your only foray into fiction exclusively in the fantasy genre?
>Again, there are billions of stories of mundane people living mundane lives where nothing exceptional happens to anyone in the story
And it's still possible for those characters to make someone think:
>I wish that was me
You don't have a story if your characters can't hook people at all.
>And it's still possible for those characters to make someone think:
Nobody claimed otherwise. You simply said that every story has exceptional characters, which is false.
I didn't claim it was limited to brown people. The question was "Why do brown people love One Piece?" so I answered as to why brown people love One Piece. If the question was "why do white people love One Piece?", that part about unearned excellence would be in my response too.
What hard, consistent work did Luffy do to get magic stretchy powers?
To get them? He hate the fruit.
To actually make it an useful ability and not just a goofy disability? He spent his entire childhoold in a deadly jungle constantly on the verge of dying honing his strength and the ability.
>To get them? He hate the fruit.
Exactly.
Eating the fruit didn't give him "excellence"
Maybe the confusion stems from me using the term in a bit of an old-fashioned way, but yes it did.
The fruit didn't make him outstanding, even with those powers he never even caught up with Ace until after he fricking died.
He made the power his own and made them useful by himself, not the other way around.
In the One Piece world having powers doesn't even make you the strongest, Roger didn't have powers and yet no one holds a candle to him.
>The fruit didn't make him outstanding,
What? You're claiming that being made of rubber ISN'T outside the ordinary of human existence? Fricking what?
If people without powers can make this "outstanding" power meaningless, how "outstanding" is it actually?
I don't know how you've managed to misunderstand me a second time, even after I pulled up the definition. Luffy is SPECIAL and he's special for no other reason than he ate the fruit. If he was a melty rubber blob on the ground he would still be special. Same way siamese twins are special. You don't have to be useful to be remarkable. It just happens than in the cases being discussed, what makes them remarkable is also exceptionally useful.
So it’s barely a complaint then. Who cares? Are you really just that being technical, or aren’t you covering your ass? Just having archaic definition exceptional abilities for the main character doesn’t mean it’s a fantasy about not putting effort in. People like to see hardworking exceptional characters do things they themselves could never do, outside the bounds of human strength. It doesn’t mean it nurtures being lazy
>complaint
I was never complaining. I was never insulting brown people. I was simply explaining what they like about One Piece. How the frick are you all so fragile? Brown people like One Piece because of magical abilities gifted into the hero. It's that simple.
You went out of your way to make a lot of more points than that, pal
It was literally the only point that people got pissy about and the only one I've been arguing since that first post.
You said ‘the fantasy of excellence without working for it’, then you switched to pretending you just meant superpowers in general when pointed out these characters work their asses off and that that’s part of the fantasy.
The fantasy of excellence without working for it and superpowers in general are the same thing. Nobody in anime/manga gets their superpowers through hard work. They're all gifted superpowers and then train their superpowers after. The only exception I can think of off the top of my head is Saitama.
I can only repeat myself so many times before I have to give up and accept you're too stupid for this conversation.
‘Not working for it’ is such a minor part of the appeal of superpowers, they also provide fictional action huge special effect. Without superpowers you just can’t get a guy punching through a building, you can’t have a guy fly, things people want to see happen and want to do no matter how hard they work. Your whole idea that the appeal of superpowers is getting free rewards is just bullshit, people like the guy with the most feats and power because he’s the strongest guy. Not because they like they way characters who train their asses off got a handout or something
>people like the guy with the most feats and power because he’s the strongest guy
Blacks love Piccolo more than Goku. Whites love Vegeta/Gohan more than Goku. Different people like different things. Browns just happen to like Goku the most because he's the most special one. Same for Luffy. They like the idea of being gifted more than they like the idea of working hard for something. hispanics want to be Ronaldinho, not CR7.
Bullshit, it’s all pull out of your ass
Pulled*
I accept your concession.
NTA but I mean, he's right. Everything you asserted conflicts with everything I know about basically everyone. Blacks I knew preferred Vegeta because he's a villain and an butthole. Girls were split between Goku and Vegeta saying they were "the hottest characters". Everyone liked Piccolo, but no one said he was their favorite. Of all my Hispanic friends, I'd say Trunks was probably the most popular, followed by Goku and then Gohan. A lot of love for that Android with the red mohawk also, and Krillin and Tien.
>He's right
>Why is he right? Oh, because of all this random bullshit I just made up
lol
>Make up random bullshit.
>Get responded to with other anecdotes.
>SUDDENLY, RANDOM BULLSHIT IS NO LONGER OKAY.
So you concede, big of you admitting every word you posted was worthless. Come back when you have an article to back you up sparky, ta-ta for now loser!
What a pathetic little concession this was lol. I'll accept it all the same. Browns love the idea of being gifted. A simple fact.
You were asked to show your work. Look at that, you have none. Thanks for conceding.
Your first concession was sufficient.
I never conceded, you've conceded over. Tell me *I* concede if you confirm forever that you concede in all things moving forward.
>I actually said specifically that brown people love the fantasy of excellence without working for it.
>Superpowers are excellence without work.
Everybody loves the fantasy of having superpowers, what makes you claim that’s limited to brown people?
>excellence without work
>Luffy never worked hard to be able to do what he does
Lmao
People of talent who work harder than anyone are people who work their asses off. These characters train more than anyone. They do work for it, they’re just really good at it.
I totally get what you’re saying but the idea that it’s uncommon to have a talent or have something you could work at really well, just isn’t true. What’s true is not everyone figures out what that is and not everyone lives in a world that heiress and provides that, but to say someone that having an advantage is a dream of not having to work, is ridiculous. And by the rest of your comments and posts I can tell you’re just being reductive and trashy. You’re literally focused on this idea people love fantasy of being lazy through this, rather than the more simple reason people like to watch winners win
You're so butthurt on Goku's behalf that you're claiming brown people don't wish they had superpowers lol. Hard work without talent is worthless if you are dreaming of being the best at whatever that talent happens to be.
I never said people don’t want superpowers. You’ve been talking such pointless shit about people watching fighting because it’s a fantasy about being lazy, just to move the goalposts and pretend you’re saying ‘superpowers are cool :Pm. It goes without saying you’ve been a cynical moron the whole time trying to throw in all your favorite jokes about Mexicans and shit you’re just talking shit in the first placed, but none of it means the fantasy presented in these manga is to be a superhero who actually works his ass off. The real trick is you get to experience the sweat and glory while sitting on your damn couch in your underwear
Now, I'm not gay but goddamn Jeff Ward is a very handsome man.
One Piece is frickin gay and should have ended 20 years ago.
Why do people love One Piece so much?
They have brown skin
Wano was unfiltered garbage, change my mind.
I watched one pace, and even then it just keeps dragging, can't imagine watching that shit when it was released weekly.
watch One Pace at 1.2 speed, way more bearable this way
Luffy can see the best in people.
He's a great leader.
And a good person.
It's kino.
I was surprised how well they translated Buggy tbh. I thought they were going to go full Joker with him but he ends up being a loveable dork so quickly
it'll just be filled with brownies instead. theyre doversifying it
>so successful
>instead of season 2 hype it's an anime reboot
Netflix shills, pls, you're making it too transparent.
Is that Michael Mando
>OP gets triggered when someone expresses an opinion they don't agree with.
Based anti shill
based
frick one piece and its fans
SameBlack person.
yes the live action one piece is shit and only sub 100 iq people like it
Stay triggered.
just don't reply to him, filter his images and posts and ignore him
You mean the guy calling people who don't like stuff he shills the dreaded n word?
>Adaptation so terrible the 30 year old actress wants to retire from acting.
lol all these click bait sites just employ 3rd world pakis now without a care in the world of what they publish
only a jaded cynical homosexual would infer that
Here comes the mentally broken sperg with his infographs lmao
Okay sperg, get started.
wow my first time hearing about this
I guess this is what i have wanted for a long time, the current anime has dogshit pacing
but it seems very disrespectful to the anime that already exists and all its creators
and the first 500 episodes of the anime are really good
>successful
Post numbers.
Frick you b***h, if you're not a schizo who compiles every ridiculously miniscule detail of every single casting and don't lose your shit if a character doesn't have the EXACT skin pigmentation as in the source material, you're not a true fan.
For me, it's Ulti.
it's a troony for sure
>Why do people love One Piece so much?
The artstyle is moronic, the characters are moronic and gay, the story is moronic and gay
We live in a moronic gay generation
Have sex, incel
>Why do people love One Piece so much?
No goddamn clue.
This show is for brown people nuff said if you like one piece (anime, manga, live action) you can turn in your white badge