>Dragons are...
Basically just siege beasts created by Morgoth
Also the first dragon didn't even have wings and died just being pocked with a sword in a stomach by some hobo man
At least balrogs were the elites and were slayed only by matching them in power higher beings like mayars or some legendary higher elves
Well maybe he corrupted some serpents boosted them with foul magic or idk breed some of his troll wives to give this horrendous offspring
It's like Loki who had like apocalyptic wolf as a son, a giant serpent and basically a death lady
I thought the meme everybody keeps (without any sense of irony) repeating from Tolkien is that evil can't create, it can only corrrupt what good creates.
So how did Morgoth create dragons? Isn't he evil or are dragons some corrupted thing of something else
>Sauron is a random guy >still stronger than fricking gods >even Saruman becomes his underling despite the fact Saruman should be stronger than him
Sauron is a fallen maiar. The gods could have easily whiped him and his orcs from the planet, along with a good chunk of the planet which is why they didn't.
Smaug clearly has far more destructive power than Durin's Bane. Gandalf managed to beat the balrog but tbqh, Smaug would have just roasted him and feasted on his corpse.
Smaug was fricking sniped out by a merely boat fisherman
Jesus Christ you people are dumb
Dragons are just sofisticated animals
Balrogs are like demi-godlikefallen angels they cannot been slain by a simple weapon
He got btfo by an ancient wizard guy who was like demigod and got buffed by even higher god on a top of a fricking mountain man did you even read the book?
This is why Smaug won't do shit to him
Because he literally was fire incarnate and the water doozes him so he transformed in a serpent basically a dragon
He still was invincible and was destroyed only with a higher power lighting buffed weapon
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He didn't become a dragon, he became a "thing of slime, stronger than a strangling snake".
Still nothing against an actual dragon, considering he gets btfo by just some water, lol
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> he gets btfo by just some water
You dumb frick he just got btfo by a illuvator
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A tiny little puddle put him out and he couldn't even relight, lol >He still was invincible and was destroyed only with a higher power lighting buffed weapon
Glorfindel killed a Balrog by just making it fall down a hole. They're weak as frick, die to basic ass gravity and can be stabbed to death by regular swords.
The beings of great power that God created to serve his vision of creation aren't all powerful. They are limited in their power and are not inexhaustible in it. They eventually run out.
Saruman shouldn't have been stronger than Sauron because Saruman had like 20% of all his powers given to him by Valars when he went Middle-earth
All wizards were mayars stripped from their powers
I doubt it
Balrogs were specifically stated as fire spirits corrupted by Morgoth
Maybe BBG had some other fayeries or mayars like Sauron who wasn't connected with fire but i dunno about it
lol anyone else remember when this femboy-ass sissy killed the most powerful Balrog to ever exist, Gothmog, by just headbutting it with his tiny little viking helmet? >aaaiiiiieeeeee water and tiny crude iron dirks, whatever will I do
Literally any 300ib scooter-driving amerimutt with a pistol would destroy a Balrog in a fight, let alone a frickin' dragon
"The ardour of Glorfindel drave that Balrog from point to point, and his mail fended him from its whip and claw. Now had he beaten a heavy swinge upon its iron helm, now hewn off the creature's whip-arm at the elbow. Then sprang the Balrog in the torment of his pain and fear full at Glorfindel, who stabbed like a dart of a snake; but he found only a shoulder, and was grappled, and they swayed to a fall upon the crag-top. Then Glorfindel's left hand sought a dirk, and this he thrust up that it pierced the Balrog's belly nigh his own face (for that demon was double his stature); and it shrieked, and fell backwards from the rock, and falling clutched Glorfindel's yellow locks beneath his cap, and those twain fell into the abyss."
Things we can learn from this: >Balrogs can't even pierce chainmail, get beaten around by the strength of a regular ass muggle-elf >regular ass sword is enough to literally cut off its arm at the elbow >Balrog was in torment of pain and fear of this regular ass elf that was kicking his fricking ass and amputating him with his tiny little sword, then Glorfindel literally OUTSMUSCLES the Balrog and pins him at wrestling >Balrogs die to the lamest ass weapon mankind has ever named: the 'Dirk' >Balrogs literally die to a shittier version of a knife
From this we can conclude a Balrog would beg for mercy then be easily beaten to death even by moe kawaii anime dragons
We lose.
Whoever wins, we lose.
How many dragons existed? What do they eat when they’re this large? Do they have a master?
Balrogs had souls created before the world existed. Dragons are... Don't think Tolkien this one out.
>Dragons are...
Basically just siege beasts created by Morgoth
Also the first dragon didn't even have wings and died just being pocked with a sword in a stomach by some hobo man
At least balrogs were the elites and were slayed only by matching them in power higher beings like mayars or some legendary higher elves
But Morgoth doesn't create life, only corrupts existing ones.
Well maybe he corrupted some serpents boosted them with foul magic or idk breed some of his troll wives to give this horrendous offspring
It's like Loki who had like apocalyptic wolf as a son, a giant serpent and basically a death lady
Balrogs are corrupted Maiar. Only other Maiar were powerful enough to stop them.
A low-tier elf stabbed a Balrog to death with only this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirk
Lol Balrogs are pussies
I thought the meme everybody keeps (without any sense of irony) repeating from Tolkien is that evil can't create, it can only corrrupt what good creates.
So how did Morgoth create dragons? Isn't he evil or are dragons some corrupted thing of something else
What if he just inverted eagles as he inverted elves to be orcs?
Russia
NO FRICKING CONTEST.
reminder that the big one was killed by some homosexual in a flying boat
Were the mountains around Ancalagon cyclopean at the very least?
Not after he fell on them
dragons were literally created so they could be used as horses for the balrogs... who do you think wins
In a fistfight between a man and a horse?
The horse. You don't ride on something that's less powerful than you are. That'd be disabling yourself.
Smaug wins because he's smarter
Why did the Balrog live in a dungeon not doing anything until the fellowship came?
I think he had PTSD from losing his master. Tolkien never made it clear he was in communication with Sauron.
Hiding from the Valar.
Sauron is a fallen maiar. The gods could have easily whiped him and his orcs from the planet, along with a good chunk of the planet which is why they didn't.
Tom bombadil
Smaug clearly has far more destructive power than Durin's Bane. Gandalf managed to beat the balrog but tbqh, Smaug would have just roasted him and feasted on his corpse.
Smaug was fricking sniped out by a merely boat fisherman
Jesus Christ you people are dumb
Dragons are just sofisticated animals
Balrogs are like demi-godlikefallen angels they cannot been slain by a simple weapon
Balrog in the book got btfo by some cold water, get outta here
He got btfo by an ancient wizard guy who was like demigod and got buffed by even higher god on a top of a fricking mountain man did you even read the book?
He fell into a river and got doused and couldn’t even relight his spark so he ran away into some caves
This is why Smaug won't do shit to him
Because he literally was fire incarnate and the water doozes him so he transformed in a serpent basically a dragon
He still was invincible and was destroyed only with a higher power lighting buffed weapon
He didn't become a dragon, he became a "thing of slime, stronger than a strangling snake".
Still nothing against an actual dragon, considering he gets btfo by just some water, lol
> he gets btfo by just some water
You dumb frick he just got btfo by a illuvator
A tiny little puddle put him out and he couldn't even relight, lol
>He still was invincible and was destroyed only with a higher power lighting buffed weapon
Glorfindel killed a Balrog by just making it fall down a hole. They're weak as frick, die to basic ass gravity and can be stabbed to death by regular swords.
Dragons Xeeleestomp weak balcucks
>Sauron is a random guy
>still stronger than fricking gods
>even Saruman becomes his underling despite the fact Saruman should be stronger than him
The beings of great power that God created to serve his vision of creation aren't all powerful. They are limited in their power and are not inexhaustible in it. They eventually run out.
Saruman shouldn't have been stronger than Sauron because Saruman had like 20% of all his powers given to him by Valars when he went Middle-earth
All wizards were mayars stripped from their powers
>Smaug *spits fire
>Balrog :|?
>Balrog : sets everything around on fire
Balrogs did not have literal wings and they definitely didn't look like minotaurs.
>Balrogs did not have literal wings
He drank a Red Bull
Balrogs could transform themselves in anything like they literally could take shapes of dragons
Dwarves killed Smaug
Dwarves got killed by Balrog
Glaurung was a real jerk.
Are there Balrogs made of ice?
Because Melkor had dominion both over Fire & Ice.
I doubt it
Balrogs were specifically stated as fire spirits corrupted by Morgoth
Maybe BBG had some other fayeries or mayars like Sauron who wasn't connected with fire but i dunno about it
It took like 10 balrogs to defeat a spider, they are quite weak.
This was like a God of spiders and a void itself
It took actually more to wipe the whole fricking Feanor dynasty
Are we forgetting that Balrogs can't even fly? He fell down a hole.
Smaug curbstomps because Balrogs can't even touch him.
frick off
Daily reminder that nothing in The Silmarillion is canon.
lol anyone else remember when this femboy-ass sissy killed the most powerful Balrog to ever exist, Gothmog, by just headbutting it with his tiny little viking helmet?
>aaaiiiiieeeeee water and tiny crude iron dirks, whatever will I do
Literally any 300ib scooter-driving amerimutt with a pistol would destroy a Balrog in a fight, let alone a frickin' dragon
Smaug was only about 10 feet long in the books. Of course the movies exaggerated his size. He was a garden snake with wings. Balrog would eat him.
Balrog dies to tiny pocketknives.
"The ardour of Glorfindel drave that Balrog from point to point, and his mail fended him from its whip and claw. Now had he beaten a heavy swinge upon its iron helm, now hewn off the creature's whip-arm at the elbow. Then sprang the Balrog in the torment of his pain and fear full at Glorfindel, who stabbed like a dart of a snake; but he found only a shoulder, and was grappled, and they swayed to a fall upon the crag-top. Then Glorfindel's left hand sought a dirk, and this he thrust up that it pierced the Balrog's belly nigh his own face (for that demon was double his stature); and it shrieked, and fell backwards from the rock, and falling clutched Glorfindel's yellow locks beneath his cap, and those twain fell into the abyss."
Things we can learn from this:
>Balrogs can't even pierce chainmail, get beaten around by the strength of a regular ass muggle-elf
>regular ass sword is enough to literally cut off its arm at the elbow
>Balrog was in torment of pain and fear of this regular ass elf that was kicking his fricking ass and amputating him with his tiny little sword, then Glorfindel literally OUTSMUSCLES the Balrog and pins him at wrestling
>Balrogs die to the lamest ass weapon mankind has ever named: the 'Dirk'
>Balrogs literally die to a shittier version of a knife
From this we can conclude a Balrog would beg for mercy then be easily beaten to death even by moe kawaii anime dragons