Star Wars cartoons are so dead it's unreal
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There is no death, there is the force.
>chingchong bing bong everyone is Force kapow
There is no emotion, there is peace.
There is no ignorance, there is knowledge.
There is no passion, there is serenity.
There is no chaos, there is harmony.
There is no death, there is the Force
There is no peace, there is passion
Through passion I gain strength
Through strength I gain power
Through power I gain victory
Through victory my chains are broken
The Force shall free me
>snap-hiss
>fricking up the first stanza
Pretender
>messed up the first part
False idol. Feed him to the wretches on Korriban
What a failure.
>Death is a concept invented by the Jedi.
PUT ME DOWN, YOU HEATHEN!
I heard Bad Batch is pretty good. Ended recent iirc. Been meaning to watch it for a while now.
(me)
*recently
Bad Batch is alright but it wastes so much time on dumb monster of the week episodes and will they/won't they retcon the ST banter. Plus they killed Scorch like a b***h
It's okay. Its two core concepts are "A-team of reject clones" and "what happens to the clones after Order 66?".
But every time the latter crops up, the Bad Batch refuses to get involved, so you wind up waiting for the main characters to finish their boring monster-of-the-week episode so you can get to the actual plot which they rarely have anything to do with.
This isn't even supplemented by the Bad Batch being well developed characters. Every single one is a two-dimensional trope except for Crosshair
>Hunter's the grumpy dad
>Tech's the smart autist
>Wrecker's the big moron
>Echo has no personality beyond being slightly grumpy about being the "droid" (also made redundant by Tech)
>Omega's the surprisingly useful kid that Hunter has to protect and who is wanted by the bad guys
None of those characters have an arc or development beyond that.
I know the show is bad because I genuinely was excited for it when it was announced and I gradually lost interest. Season 2: I smiled and rolled my eyes when Tech died. Didn't care.
And they're clearly connecting it with the sequels in a futile attempt to "fix" them the same way fans used to pretend that TCW "fixed" the prequels. But some things can't be fixed with peripheral content.
Haven't watched Season 3. Might get around to it eventually.
>Every single one is a two-dimensional trope
Sometimes I feel most Star Wars critics have never actually paid attention to the classic movies.
This is just what SW has been since the very beginning. I'm not saying you must like, but you should at least keep your expectations in check. At a certain point you might just check out of it.
>it's okay if new star wars is bad because star wars always bad
Why is this argument so common now? No one posting this shit actually believes this.
Especially when the biggest thing was that the OT absolutely developed its main cast. Well save chewie, r2 and 3p0
I actually said
>have realistic expectations for Star Wars because it's always been this way
If you can't find some entertainment in the way things are now, you should have got over it a long time ago.
ESB is the only movie all the main cast actually got development, RotJ has some but only for Luke and Vader. In ANH they are all flat archetypes because the movie was meant to be a pulp throwback.
ANH has development tbh, well not for leia but still han and luke have character arcs, hell they're the two most parroted examples of character developments in Hollywood fiction. ROTJ had soft development for than and leia with their relationship.
Get outside the bubble. Star Wars is widely viewed as a shallow story, and it is this way by design.
Han coming back to save the rebels is a bare minimum development, and Luke had somewhat of an arc with Biggs but that was all cut out of the movie. At the core, they're both fun and memorable character archetypes and that's it.
There's no sincerity in these words.
I sincerely don't like ANH. I respect what it did and meant for it's time, and there are moments and aspects here and there I enjoy, and the bedrock is solid, but it doesn't stand the test of time very well. In contrast, I believe ESB completely deserves it's legendary movie status. RotJ was a sign for how the prequels were going to be.
You are so cool and smart and interesting
NOT!!
>RotJ was a sign for how the prequels were going to be.
This is somewhat true, but I like it anyway. The original Star Wars is great though, so on that we disagree.
Rotj is uneven. The good parts are some of the best sw. The rest is just very by the numbers.
I feel this way but for RotS.
Rots and ROTJ are very similar in that regard.
>I sincerely don't like ANH.
I can respect this. It's kind of a relic and is frequently concerned about things that every other Star Wars media entry gives zero shits about, like Luke for example is a whiny unlikeable farm boy who just wants to dick around with his friends and would have gladly joined the Imperial Academy if his aunt and uncle would have let him. He doesn't start the story as a hero at all, more of just an everyman who isn't on anyone's side until his family gets murdered.
Its simple, not shallow. And i study film, its the example the teacher used for basic character arcs lmao.
Still the most common excuse I always see repeated is
>Guys! It's a movie for children!
whenever people want to shut down complaints
Where is Scorch? Is he safe? Is he all right?
It seems... in Filonu's hubris, he killed him.
You mean, no more big animals that blasters cannot hurt?
Why does that matter? That franchise sucked wiener till disney revived it with record breaking box office
Here's how I would've written the finale with Tech being CX-2 in mind:
>After Hunter, Crosshair, and Wrecker are defeated and put into the conditioning machines, Hemlock orders CX-2 to take off his helmet to Hunter, revealing to be Tech, and explains how he recovered him alive, healed him, and eventually succeeded in conditioning him into becoming an operative as he will hopefully be able to do to them
>Later, after Wrecker, Hunter, and Crosshair break free, Hunter manages to knock out Tech by using the electro staff on him as they then chase Hemlock with Omega
>After Wrecker and Echo finish off the other Clone X forces, Echo quickly heads up and sees Tech on the ground with the operative outfit on
>Echo deduces that the machines in the room condition the clones he fought and he goes about putting Tech into the last functioning conditioning machine and uses his socket-arm on a terminal to alter the machine's settings as it turns on
>After Hunter and Crosshair save Omega, they all regroup at the transport with clones carrying an unconscious Tech as they all board the transport ship to escape
>While heading to Pabu, Hunter, Crosshair, and Omega check in on Tech, where Echo explains that he did the best he could to undo the conditioning but it may not have worked
>Tech then awakens and as they greet him, Tech questions who they all are and where he is thus confirming that Tech's memories of his entire life has been erased
>Omega says to Tech that everything will be alright as he's among family and that they're heading home
>After arriving on Pabu, as Echo is about to leave, Tech is seen alongside Wrecker and Crosshair
>Omega asks Hunter if Tech's memories of them will ever return and Hunter says that all they can do is help him the best they can
>Tech, Crosshair, and Wrecker come over with a laughing Wrecker's hand around Tech's shoulders as they sit down near them with Tech sitting between Wrecker and Batcher as he curiously pets the creature
Pretty good, am I right?
im.. puzzled by this, yes it ties into Rise of Skywalker which sucks but in terms of just being consistently good episodes TBB S3 is probably the best SW animated season aside from maybe S4 Rebels.
yeah TCW reaches higher highs than ether but every season is all over the damn place.
>TBB S3 is probably the best SW animated season aside from maybe S4 Rebels
Rebels is ass.
>it ties into Rise of Skywalker
How? I didn't watch Bad Batch.
by trying to explain the origins of how palpatine returned through his cloning program
Does this even need a bigger explanation? Just say "he was cloned" and that's it.
you can't clone force sensitivity and that's what the entire project omega got wrapped up in was built for. without it palpatine would just have regular non force sensitive bodies to jump into and be fully powerless
Source? Nothing of this is on the movies.
Actually, yes, this is enough.
>Nothing of this is on the movies.
take your (You) and go
>Source?
The Bad Batch. It's why Omega is so important. She's the first clone to have been born with sensitivity to the Force. Hemlock wanted to research her to see if it could be duplicated. The research was gone, but supposedly Pershing found out how to do it since, supposedly, Moff Gideon's clones were created WITH force sensitivity through studying Grogu. But we never got to see if it actually worked since Din Djarin aborted Gideon's clones whilst in their test tubes.
>She's the first clone to have been born with sensitivity to the Force
wrong holy frick
she's the first clone created whose blood can receive midichlorians from another host source without her blood immediately going in and killing them like all the other clones' blood does. the ventress episode proved omega is not force sensitive. hemlock needs her blood to study why that happens so he can replicate it for the emperor's future clone bodies.
Dark science, cloning, secrets only the Sith knew.
It says a lot when dark empire gave more of an explanation.
>How? I didn't watch Bad Batch.
It's basically just laying groundwork for justifying why Sheev's clones exist.
Except nothing of the project survived which doesn't really help for how they kinda succeed later.
>Except nothing of the project survived
Which is why they recontinued it with Pershing's research on what materials they could find about the Kaminoans, as seen in The Mandalorian.
You'd think Omega's blood would remained to help explain away how they manage to overcome that problem. And wasn't Pershing's research used more for Gideon's clones than for Necromancer?
all of the data and samples were in the lab that nala se jihaded.
even if it was primarily for gideon himself, he was part of the super special shadow council of the remaining empire factions that go on to make the first order, giving palpatine a way in when the first snoke clones that can walk off exegol are ready to go
>And wasn't Pershing's research used more for Gideon's clones than for Necromancer?
Gideon was using Pershing's research for his own ends outside of the Imperial Remnant's notice. But Pershing's research was meant for Project Necromancer under Brendol Hux's oversight.
The bulk of S3 is spent trying to explain Sheev's clones
CW03 was probably better depending on how do you count it as a season. But there are interesting comparisons to be made between all Star Wars cartoons, maybe even the 80's ones.
>best
>Rebels
Get outta here.
It feels people are mad at TBB for.. mostly being a self contained show doing it's own thing while occaisonally touching on the larger galaxy while also being mad at all the other shows for spending half their run time setitng up other stuff, I don't get it.
The Bad Batch had unnecessary cameos and fanservice when it didn't need to (Hera, Cad Bane, Fennec, Ventress) and then when it made sense for other characters to get involved (Rex in the assault on Tantiss) they didn't.
Why didn't the show about clones include Boba fett at all
If his own show was any indication Disney hates the guy and wants him replaced with their own shitty OC. Now his unique backstory of being the only unaltered clone is gone too as he now has a clone sister running around the universe.
>he now has a clone sister running around the universe.
But she's just a pilot for the rebels. Boba's a whole bounty hunter.
so is there going to be another spinoff or something featuring ventress? also i never watched any of the sequels, does this mean theyre retconned now that the databanks are destroyed and the project defunded?
How do you think he'll be in Tales from the Empire? The clip online looks cool, but we all know the powers that be will jump at any chance to make him look shit.
The animation will probably be good but the "Tails" shows are just showcases really
He'll probably be fine. Aside from his fight with Ventress, Dathomir was the only time he wasn't a complete jobber.
And daily reminder all nu-wars and filonislop is homosexual shit.
He already canonically won that battle in TCW. They can't embarrass him that badly.
Star Wars is so dead it's unreal.
I enjoyed it and I'm surprised they wrapped it up, I was thinking they'd continue milking it for another season. I wonder what they plan on doing with Omega now. Disney Star Wars has been dead set on finding breakaway female stars to lead the franchise. They're probably frustrated as hell that characters like Omega, Ahsoka, and Rey are each different versions of Luke Skywalker, but can't seem to become popular like he is. The inevitable Ventress series might be good.
>but can't seem to become popular like he is
His dad's significantly more popular. Obi-Wan, Han and Boba Fett are more popular. Only nerds like Luke.
Anon as if they haven't fricked all of those.
That's the old republic then there's the oldest republic
>Anon as if they haven't fricked all of those.
Vader's still good.
Luke's a very good classic adventure protagonist. He starts out sucking and at the end he's cool.
>at the end he's cool.
Not really. Maybe for his time. But into the 90s and beyond, no.
A paragon character who get tested and ultimately prevails is cool. I'm sorry. I like edgy characters too. Doesn't make Luke any less cool.
>A paragon character who get tested and ultimately prevails is cool.
Only if the visuals and audio do the heavy lifting to make it cool, and the OT was significantly limited by its time. It's just Luke standing there with his shitty haircut declaring that he will not turn.
Why is it always extremes with you people? I say Luke sucks and you think I only want edgy characters. No, he sucks because he's boring.
Association. Especially when almost all the characters you said are better are edgier. Even obi Wan as a failed master and yadda yadda.
Not really. It's just the simple heroes journey story with a nice twist that ultimately makes him stand a bit from what came before before that in turn became the norm.
Han and Obi-Wan aren't edgy. Is this what manchildren think? That anything beyond boyscout is edgy?
Han is the original bad boy dude. He's the cool guy that plays by his own rules. Obi Wan is a stretch but he's definitely got more angst than Luke.
>Luke's a very good classic adventure protagonist
For geeks to self-insert, sure. For me, Brendan Fraser in The Mummy's the standard.
3rd season was a shitshow. Filler x repeat
whole final season was pretty blah. break into and out of the same place 50 times.
Lamest, most cowardly series ending ever.
>get a happy ending in star wars for once
this is what matters
>throw away any sense of continuity or stakes for a Smurfs ending
Bitch.
>closed, self contained story is actually le bad
>closed
>special snowflake clone supergirl joins the Rebellion instead of dying on Pabu
she will become lukes best flying buddy
And that is why Bad Batch is a shit addition to the feces sandwich Filoni has made of Star Wars
Pathetic redditor. No one cares about your ugly mary sue waifu, who is back somehow. Bad Batch was a dogshit show, and shittress episode was the worst of them all: absolutely pointless filler wank, absolutely blatant ad for another terrible goyslop+ series. Slit your writs, troon.
he mad
It's the fricking Dark Times. There are no happy endings.
>"WE MUST RESCUE THE CLONES AT TANTISS"
>it's only about 20 of them
>17 of them die
Okay.
lol the show about clones isn't about the clones dude.
>tease "clone rebellion" stuff since s1
>never actually do anything with it except tease it each season
God forbid anything interesting happens instead of "whacky Bad Batch squad gets into whacky adventures!"
>how dare the show called the bad batch focus on the bad batch
Would anything really be lost if some of the unnecessary filler was replaced with episodes on what Rex, Cody, Wolffe and Scorch are up to? Just one episode each dedicated to what they're doing.
The only thing that would have been lost would have been Disney+ subscriptions
>Oi, huntah. There's anotha monsta to run away from! Thats the 8th one this month.
The bad batch never got to be the bad batch in the show. At least give us a few episodes that show what's happening to the clones. It's not like they needed to have all those fricking trandoshan errand episodes.
Old Republic is the only era that can save star wars.
im sorry I think you mean the High Republic™
The High Republic is kind of fun honestly, the main series is painfully fricking dull though. The side story comics that have been coming out doing their own thing have been solid. Disney has completely mishandled it. There's 36 books and like 4-5 different comic titles and I'd only recommend 2 comic mini series. Maybe 3.
I don't blame him for how he voiced Scorch. It's entirely on the writers for writing him that way.
Part of the problem with High Republic is how it's been structured in terms of release. From the very beginning it felt awkward and without a good anchor for people to latch onto. A lot of the major story beats are good but it's hard to get invested.
They did an MCU style release but almost entirely in books so it takes forever to actually get through it all. Half of the books being children's books doesn't help things either. The Nihil are also not really believable primary antagonists. They're a fun idea as a villain faction but not believable as big bads and reading the Jedi fall for the same fricking Nihil scheme three times in a row is mind numbing.
The prequel era's already in the Old Republic.
It's the High Republic now...
Man, Purebloods were hot
The Sith were founded by rogue Jedi. Why make it an actual species?
Because George hadn't come up with that yet and the sith founders were Rouge jedi still. They just took over the species and it's name.
>Because George hadn't come up with that yet
He did. He just didn't divulge the whole backstory to the EU guys until TPM.
Just like how anakin was always Vader or the emperor was always a force user or qui gon and dooku existed...
It's just the creative process. Things change during it all the time. It isn't exclusive to Lucas.
Yes just like he didn't really have the whole specific sith backstory.
EU is moronic like that.
Man, my disappointment, when KOTOR 2 teased PURE SITH, like it's some eldritch horror, SITH IS A BELIEF, and then SWTOR comes out... And it's some gay ass red dudes in what was basically OT Empire, but with gay ass red dudes in charge, lmao.
>SWTOR
I'd just treat that as an alternate universe where that happened instead of the OT. KOTOR being the PT equivalent. Like an Earth 2 type of deal.
the Sith were still founded by rogue Jedi. The name they just stole from the Sith species
retconned into the woke high republic. sorry, there's no redemption to be found here.
stop being moronic on purpose
old republic is thousands of years before tpm. high republic is only 350-200 years before tpm
>old republic is thousands of years before tpm. high republic is only 350-200 years before tpm
The Republic in the prequels IS the Old Republic. The High Republic is also the Republic in the prequels.
again, stop being moronic on purpose
you know exactly what I'm talking about. it's about the time period itself not the fricking name of it
Different anon, dumbass.
The High Republic and Galactic Republic are thew same fricking thing. There's no separation except in marketing. In-universe, they're the same shit. Quit being autistic.
>woke
Anyone who still uses this word unironically is not worth listening to.
The tales show was good but bad batch was always shit.
What a garbage, pointless, meandering, filler, dogshit series.
What a bland, safe, predictable, spineless, toothless, illogical, consequence-free, stakes-free, "Disney" finale.
What an audacity to go specifically after a fairly niche 20 year old game, take a fan-favorite character out of it, and shit all over him relentlessly, and then just off him in what has to be the most pathetic death in Star Wars. At least Boba Fett in ROTJ got to fire his shots and offered some resistance. This is just a new low. This was specifically saying, "Frick you" to the fans, this was specifically shitting on legacy thing that inspired your corporate, bland piece of slop to begin with. Humiliation ritual.
This show was peak woman shit. There is absolutely nothing for men to latch onto. Omega is a Mary Sue plot device head-writer's self-insert. Super special girl, who is also of course a clone of Jango Fett somehow (WOMEN CAN BE CLONES TOO, YOU BOYS THOUGHT THIS WAS YOUR PLAYHOUSE? NUH-UH!), loved by everyone, who gets along with everyone, who makes only the most correct decisions, who is the most morally pure in the entire universe, looked after supposedly super tough super soldiers, and she melts their hearts! UwU It is so fricking gay. Everything about this show is gay. It is gay to its core.
This dogshit show is only liked by mentally ill fujos on twitter and actual infantile manchildren. That is the target audience. There is nothing here for anyone else. This show has seriously plummeted what little interest I still had in Star Wars. Terrible.
malding commandogay
this you?
Nta but why use scorch just to kill him
>Stop limping around and get some bacta, soldier
>What an audacity to go specifically after a fairly niche 20 year old game, take a fan-favorite character out of it, and shit all over him relentlessly, and then just off him in what has to be the most pathetic death in Star Wars.
This is why i don't want Disney touching my favorites. Imagine if they introduced Kyle at the end of an Andor episode only to unceremoniously blow him and Jan up five minutes into the next episode. Imagine if Fordo just got killed by a shuttle landing on him. Imagine if Tyber Zann showed up in Outlaws only to be outsmarted by the Martez sisters and shot in the back. Imagine if Starkiller or Mara Jade was the Inquisitor that jobbed to Ahsoka in TotJ instead of Clancy Brown. Imagine, fricking imagine, if Revan got name dropped as "a powerful Jedi that was assassinated in his sleep."
And don't give me the "He was a minor Legends character" argument and tell me to be grateful Disney used him at all, Scorch WAS Star Wars, someone on the production team pulled for him and Delta Squad to be saved from Disney's canon hammer for fricks sake, and this is how they treat him? Remove all semblance of his personality, to the point you could replace him with an entirely new Commando and nothing would change, and have him job to a drugged up Hunter and dominant handless Crosshair? I'd have preferred Delta Squad stayed Legends if this is what they're doing.
Starkiller is absolutely going to be used like that. Mara jade is the ultimate in case of emergency character use.
Sam Witwer won't do Starkiller unless it's done right. He's a Star Wars autist
>He's a Star Wars autist
He should be running Star Wars.
Watch he's commentaries.
He's the most likely to show up. Given how he has a well known actor and normies love him.
Yoy could have said the same about Mark and Luke. Sam might not have a choice but to mitigate the damage they'll do to Galen.
Oof, if Tyber Zann was done dirty like that that’d hurt me on a personal level. Though I think he should have appeared in Rebels instead of Hundo. Or replace the scumbag pirate pig Hundo partnered with. Would have made a nice difference with the two taking pirating as business, but Tyber being way more ruthless and personal than Hundo.
Starkiller too.
Funny thing with Tyber is that if I remember correctly he is technically canon. By the farthest margin possible. One of the main antagonists in a canon (and dead for years) mobile game was one of Tyber’s agents of corruption. I think he was a game mechanic to explain why some regions of the galaxy map were locked… so yeah. Not like he’s directly name dropped, but his organization is, and since it’s called the Consortium of Zann he’s canon. Technically. Unless it has been retconned. Been a while since I read about it.
The Consortium itself in canon, name dropped in Uprising which only lasted a year, so we can infer that Tyber himself is probably still the namesake, but it's all still in name only.
Tyber should make a comeback!
I wonder if Jason Isaacs would take the role, since the design was based on him playing Lucius Malefoy
Man, that’s sad that when your only canonicity is being referenced in a mobile game, that died after a single year of life.
>Kyle
>Jan
>Fordo
>Tyber Zann
>Martez sisters
>Mara Jade
Who are they?
EU characters. Martez sisters were in S7 of TCW.
Starkiller was always moronic.
Okay lucastard
>Imagine if Starkiller or Mara Jade was the Inquisitor that jobbed to Ahsoka in TotJ instead of Clancy Brown.
They'd never bother to turn 6th Brother into those shit characters. Not worth it.
>calling a no personality character with a cool design worse than those two
Lmao
>WOMEN CAN BE CLONES TOO, YOU BOYS THOUGHT THIS WAS YOUR PLAYHOUSE? NUH-UH!
Female clones have been a thing for a while
That's a man.
I agree with you about Omega. THE FORCE IS FEMALE NOW.
That aside, the Crosshair episodes were peak, you can't talk shit about those.
>we want the tween girl audience
What a bunch of fricking morons. It's STAR WARS
tween girls aren't reading the books where that clone was featured, stop having a stroke
>Omega becomes a pilot
>instead of following in the footsteps of her soldier bros
Why did they even bother with the future glance? It completely shits all over any possible fan interpretation of what happens after the show.
And yes, I am referring to specifically my Sagas character I made of her after season 2. Frick you, Filoni
she's following after hunter, the main pilot of the crew
homie, you really think Hunter's role in the group is "pilot"?
tech didn't fly so well on eriadu, wrecker can't fly out of a spaceport, echo fricked off to be with rex, and crosshair wouldn't bother, leaving hunter as the main pilot.
Him flying because everyone else fricking sucks doesn't make it his specialty. He's the main leader and has absurd skills in tracking.
Calling him the crew's "pilot" would be like calling Yoda the Jedi Order's dedicated shitter cleaner, since he's the only one who can fit down the pipes.
>hmm clean the vents we must, come padawans
>Ketamine, I must acquire
>cope with the shit that has settled in my massive ears, I must
>the tcw arc where the council suspects Yoda but it's his drug addiction that makes him see qui gone
They pretty much forgot his special power as the show went on.
>Omega becomes a pilot
>instead of following in the footsteps of her soldier bros
They're just setting her up to be part of Carson Teeva's squadron in the live action shows since we already know that the Republic's military is basically just fighter pilots.
She should've been a jack of all trads. Expert Marksman (though Crosshair can't exactly shoot now), Great at tracking but not as good as Hunter, and a fantastic EOD and explosives expert
That's essentially the idea my TTG interpretation of her is based around
>Expert Marksman (though Crosshair can't exactly shoot now), Great at tracking but not as good as Hunter, and a fantastic EOD and explosives expert
That'd just make her a Mary Sue. You'll get Rey 2.0.
>nooooo you need to write characters based on fan interpretations
Lol
I hope so, I want to see people getting butthurt.
Here's my other OC donut steel TTG character, if anyone's interested, since the thread seems to have gone off-topic about the show anyways
>waaaaaa they can't kill some random videogame character
Based Filoni
I agree, I think after season 1 and season 2 they had a high bar set and they had some good episodes here and there, the art direction and tech is out of this world but the story is so bland and drawn out whats the point? Season 3 literally has 1 plot point and the big issue with it is that Omega is captured, escapes, then is captured again and escapes again i mean what the frick is the point? The Emperor shows up for basically no reason at all and all this new stuff is swept away so theres conviently no hanging plot threads.
This whole season and series has been really frustating because it has the shell of Clone Wars there but its just not redeemable with all the bullshit tag alongs they throw in.
Clone wars was gold-good most of the time with rare stinkers. This entire series was the opposite as it often threw gold at the start and ending to bait people while throwing dogshit in the middle.
I mean really all they had to do was make this show a serial about the rise of the empire era and the bad batch finding their way and the clones are just forgotten about, the Empire doesnt give a shit about them but everything has to be this big epic tie in to the main story line and the main character is a super special chosen one, its a trope that gets boring and shows that the writers have no skill in creating a real series.
Instead this series could have been about the BB just struggling to survive, they get hired as mercenaries and bounter hunters on odd jobs always on the move, the series could have featured them interacting with Maul's shadow collective, could have had them dealing with the Hutts and other shady characters operating outside the Empire but also cutting deals with them, the Clone troopers themselves get retired and end up as just random labourers or mercenaries kinda same boat as the Bad Batch but they are suffering from accelerated aging and dying, Empire switchs to conscript army because the Clone army was impractical in the long term.
>Clone wars was gold-good most of the time
Frick no. Why do you fanboys always like to overrate everything? Something's either the best shit ever or the worst thing of all time. Always the extremes. Is it really so difficult to say something's just okay?
>(WOMEN CAN BE CLONES TOO, YOU BOYS THOUGHT THIS WAS YOUR PLAYHOUSE? NUH-UH!)
Well yeah, genetically speaking, it's absolutely trivial to change genders in the womb. Haven't you seen Jurassic Park?
>it's absolutely trivial to change genders in the womb. Haven't you seen Jurassic Park?
That was because of west african frog DNA that they added to the dinos to fill in missing gaps in the gene sequencing. They explain that west african frogs can spontaneously change gender in a same gender enviroment so that they can still reproduce. The dinos in the park unintentionally inherited that trait from the frog DNA in their genetic makeup. Hence how life found a way and the dinos in the park started breeding. So this doesn't apply in the case of the clones of the GAR. All the ones who were functional by the time of the story were all sourced from fresh samples donated by Jango Fett. Clones produced from the "stretched" sample leftover from after he died would've been infants or toddlers. Who no doubt were all slaughtered when Rampart destroyed Tipoca city.
So what was the room with the spooky sith floor and ominous tubes about in episode 3?
You aren't serious are you?
It's Palpatine clones, you know this.
They should have introduced Tyber Zann either in Rebels or any show close in that time tbh. Would be fun to see turn a whole base of stormtroopers against their own commanders by throwing money at them
I'm looking forward to Ventress surviving all the way into the post-Empire era. Because apparently everyone does who shows up in these fricking shows.
she died once, she deserves it
they didnt
Where did her boobs go.
Forget the breasts look at these birthing hips
Yeah and its all gone
around muh dick
How did they make her so unhot?
So what are the chances Tech returns? Remember, we never saw him die so it can easily be retconned.
It's over, he's dead, Hemlock ate his body.
If a Star Wars character falls into a pit they can always come back
For once, they did say that Hemlock was found dead after the fall.
Luckily, that was Hemlock's clone.
Season 3 is better, if only for a reason they don't work for Pepe rule 63 anymore
vader was never shown or mentioned in bad batch
Why the frick not?
Will the next series be about adult Omeegah?
She is FLAT
Is Jango Fett from a chestlet family?
I guess
No.
>Is Jango Fett from a chestlet family?
We don't know.
>muh open seasons
Not canon.
we can only really go off of emerie karr for this
>girl removes glasses and becomes hot trope
maybe.
Omeega pilots an X-Wing(and dies)
This character could redeem herself if she becomes a love interest for Luke. Let the guy score for once.
You keep saying this
I've only said it once before.
why is it that Emerie who is also a clone and her sister looks almost nothing like her. Her face is too wide and kinda bogged.
Well she didn't age as fast as Emerie but Boba Fett still looks like Temura Morrison so I don't know. Guess they kind of forgot
Grown up Omega also sounds completely different from Emerie
If filoni is ever gonna do another "protect da kid" show i'd go for it, mommy omega taking care of a little boy.
>If filoni is ever gonna do another "protect da kid" show i'd go for it
He probably will.
>so what the frick was Project Necromancer?
>my best guess was that they were trying to clone the emperor as a way to keep him immortal
You just answered your own question. It exists to justify why he's in TRoS. That's it. It's just Lucasfilm trying to damage control the ST.
>mommy omega taking care of a little boy
It will be called /SS/tar Wars
Oh she is guaranteed to appear in the next few series in some form. Everyone reappears in all new shows now.
I don't know how you can be worse than the old EU but damn
>no hand tattoos
Lucasfilm Animation seal of quality
forced tattoo removal
andor and only andor jej
>The rest of Delta Squad never shows up
>Scorch dies like a wimp
>The most based EU clones (Fordo, Alpha-17) still aren't canon at all
>God knows how many episodes focused on filler
>Omega is guaranteed to become another member of the Star Wars TV round table of plot armor to form some fricking Star Wars Avengers team against Thrawn
>Somehow... Ventress returned...
>The most based EU clones (Fordo, Alpha-17) still aren't canon at all
Do you really want them to be? There's 2 scenarios for them
>die like jobbers against the bad batch
or
>immediately defect and are offscreen "doing important missions" during all major events
>Fordo
This guy showed up nowhere but the micro-series. They did absolutely nothing with him elsewhere.
That ain't Scorch, that's his off brand stunt double Porch. Plus,
>no energy shield
>no witty banter
>I don't even know how to spell it.
>Scorch dies like a wimp
It’s really sad. Originally in the Bad Batch it was apparently some clone made to look like Scorch but not actually Scorch. Then they went on to decide that it was actually Scorch in season 2, have him do next to nothing, then kill him off without much fanfare. Its truly baffling.
>Fordo
May still have happened as the battles of Muuniilist and Hypori are still canon. But still yet, his existence is in limbo.
>Alpha-17
For all intents and purposes, grandfathered into Captain Rex as a composite character of Fordo and Alpha-17.
It's kind of funny Ventress survives long enough to grow out her hair again when she was an even bigger jobber than Maul. She was literally Dooku's Maul. And Sideous played Dooku for a sucker all the way to the biter end.
Dooku was too cool for palps
Anon Dooku was played like a damn fiddle from start to finish by Palps.
Also I like how the only reply, hours later, is defending Dooku and not Ventress at all because holy FRICK what a jobber she was.
It's funny how Clone Wars stole all the credit of previous & better CGI shows.
& then all preceding shows has exposed Filoni as a hack & CW was just a fluke.
To be fair the quality of Lucasfilm's CGI cartoon animation just keeps improving and being optimized while everyone is playing catch up. Look how long Arcane took to make and how long S2 is taking
It still looks like a PS2 game.
I doubt you're old enough to have played it with that take
>It's funny how Clone Wars stole all the credit of previous & better CGI shows.
You keep saying this. But you don't know what that means. You don't know anything.
ReBoot, Beast Wars, Shadow Raiders.
Get media literate son.
>ReBoot, Beast Wars, Shadow Raiders.
And, what exactly do you mean by this? Elaborate in detail, what do you mean by "stealing all the credit"? You post this schizo shit in every single thread that brings up TCW on every single board on Cinemaphile. What is your issue?
>what do you mean by "stealing all the credit"?
People act like CW was the first groundbreaking CGI show. Go watch those other shows they have more nuance.
>People act like CW was the first groundbreaking CGI show.
Are those people in the room with us? And yes, it was groundbreaking. It was shot like live-action, using live-action techniques, utilizing pre-viz technology Lucas developed for the prequels. The CG and render technology was all developed in-house by Lucasfilm and ILM. It is the show that was largely made in editorial, like the movies, instead of traditional way of cartoon making, which is story-boarding. So yeah, it didn't steal shit. Lucas created Lucasfilm animation from the ground-up, and created the show from the ground-up.
>Go watch those other shows they have more nuance.
lol
lmao even
Seethe, moron.
I have a lot of issues with tcw but pretending that the animation wasn't revolutionary is stupid.
The Onderon arc is shot like a video game.
explain plz
>t. brainlet
That tech would've been better served for a series of films like Genndy wanted, rather than a tv show that can only do so much with the subject matter due to being a tv show for kids.
>It was shot like live-action
I'm sure Toy Story did this many years before, though it was a movie instead of a TV show.
Don't forget Antz and Shrek.
1 million dollars per episode due to georges autism. Pretending that clone wars wasn't revolutionary in pushing silver screen cgi tech is moronic
>he CG and render technology was all developed in-house by Lucasfilm and ILM
Really? Because it's seemed like they just stole assets of some PS2 games
TV budgets are ass compared to movies.
Nice damage control.
Is this the scorchgay who kept shitting up the last few Bad Batch threads?
That is an autist having a meltdown. Let him be.
Good
I feel like they definitely cut scenes where the clone X's were revealed to be notable clones because no one wanted that
They revealed the sniper's face in the concept arts on starwars.com
His face didn't matter. He was just a clone they broke. If it was relevant they would have shown it.
Some loser who worked on some shitty CGI cartoon seems pretty mad
What's the next show that's gonna be like trying to squeeze blood from a stone gonna be?
Yuuzhan Vong invasion
Abeloth but good
Null troopers
>abeloth but good
They'll do it worse way worse.
And they are too chickenshit to do the vong
>Yuuzhan Vong invasion
TCW was planning to do that before it got cancelled.
Tcw was gonna do an alien abduction plot with them.
So they're gonna ripoff X-Files?
It's the one TCW thing that hasn't been referenced since so who knows. The vong are too big for the Disney stuff to do in something that isn't the big films.
Especially during the fricking Clone Wars. There's 2 decades of nothing between RotS and ANH, and they do nothing with it but lame ass Rebels and that shitty Obi-Wan show. Even Lucas wanted to make a live action mega-series covering that time.
It was meant to be a little sorta horror story. So I guess them attacking a republic cruiser and abducting them.
Almost Every piece of media Disney makes is set between rots and anh.
And they suck.
That's because the ST ruined absolutely everything
Even before tfa. Disney just loves that era.
>First Order fricked
>New Republic fricked
>Luke's Jedi Order fricked
>all PT and OT characters fricked
The biggest mistake was always forcing the timeline to go 30 years into the future after RotJ to line up with the OT main actor's ages, excluding how the story fricked them all over. If Rey's film makes even 500 million, there is no hope.
>The biggest mistake was always forcing the timeline to go 30 years into the future after RotJ to line up with the OT main actor's ages
The first movie in Lucas' ST was gonna take place a few years after RotJ. The next two were with them old. Personally, I'd just recast and have it pick up after RotJ.
>recast
Don't say that word, you will scare Lucasfilm. Quick, make another deepfake abomination to calm them down.
Every major entity has been eradicated, every major character in the galaxy dead. And Planet destroying weapons are now ship portable.
I see the actual Dark Times are coming for the galaxy after the Sequels. Everything is dead or soon to be dead any day now after that last movie.
>Yuuzhan Vong
You wish you gonna get an other Space bureaucrat or wizard.
It's gonna be the vong but without anything cool about them. Or just nightsisters as coming from another galaxy.
>Shit
>Shit
>Shit
I hope to god that you're using these as examples of what you don't want, anon.
>get sequel trilogy
>lets kill almost all the jedi again
>lets have our new protagonist on a desert planet who is a powerful force user and related to a sith lord
>lets do empire vs rebellion again as the first order vs resistance
Your mindset is why the ST is creatively bankrupt.
And you think those fricking Warhammer rejects are any better?
Yes? The characters having development and not being 1 to 1 helps.
If only I had vegana so I could appreciate this masterpiece.
amiga is the perfect daughter-fu
>If only I had vegana
You do. Only women can so obsessively b***h about something, not men.
>All those points are right.
Going back to TCW, a lot of the Maul stuff should've been saved for during the Dark Times. Having it happen during The Clone Wars was ridiculous. We also could've gotten Vader vs Maul that way.
We did get Vader vs maul Kino already.
And being fair during the clone wars everyone is distracted. But goerge did want him to be the main villain of the ST
>We did get Vader vs maul Kino already.
When?
Star wars tales. Rick leonardi of sm 2099 fame drew it.
Maul coming back was ridiculous by itself.
There were better ways to do it.
>He's a clone who thinks he's the original.
>The Nightsisters found him immediately after TPM and have been keeping him alive since. They needed a macguffin or whatever to restore him to his former glory by the time TCW happens. That or he was biding his time to gather up his strength and resources, and the Clone Wars was the perfect time to strike.
Did the Celestials ever refer to Abeloth during the Clone Wars? Her wiki page is massive.
No.
As much as Ahsoka is referred to in Revenge of the Sith.
I love that she's still a walking asterisk.
Turns out all Crosshair needed to do was have his hand chopped off to be a good shot again
>Stopped watching half way through the first season.
>No regrets.
If you like TCW it's worth a pirate. It's not that offensive to Star Wars lore and even shits on the "somehow" crap at the end
Most people don't want to waste their time watching bullshit, dude.
Most people don't post redundant shit on anonymous image boards in a Star Wars cartoon thread either, moron
The show sucks, dude. Get over it.
Keep wasting your time posting about it
Star Wars has been dead for a while now. Get into Gundam unironically, Zeta is what the new trilogy should have just copied and it has better lightsaber battles than anything in Nu-starwars.
There is one thing I haven't seen much discussion about:
>In one interview, she [Omega's VA] also revealed Omega originally had a different ending, which would have opened the door for her to have a very important future in the overall Star Wars galaxy, but it was changed "from there" into the bittersweet ending.[60] All the same, she expressed in another interview her hopes that Omega's story would have larger ramifications on the Star Wars galaxy and even open a door for her to appear in a live action production, which was where she mainly did acting work.
Taken from https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Omega#Season_three_finale
Going by this, they did plan to make her a Force-sensitive character and have her appear in other shows as usual, but they changed a lot of plans for Season 3.
It's ironic, the people who kept whining about Omega ended up saving her from being wasted in some shitty live action show.
No one wants another female Jedi who should have been around to help during the OT or ST. Sending her off to be a literal who Rebel pilot is fine.
That's my point, she was spared from being recycled forever in the franchise.
A lot of people judging by the threads, even if negatively.
>she was spared from being recycled forever in the franchise.
But she IS going to be recycled forever in the franchise. That's why they ended the show at 3 seasons. They're clearly setting her up to show up in the post RoTJ live action shows. I guarantee you she's going to be a supporting character in The Mandalorian and Grogu movie.
>That's my point, she was spared from being recycled forever in the franchise.
That would be true if she died. She didn't. She was merely put on hold, for now. Unfortunately.
>A lot of people judging by the threads
lol
most of the bad batch threads did not even reach bump limit when the show aired
most of this and the previous finale thread was people shitting on it
it will be forgotten in a few days, in fact, it will be forgotten on Saturday, when everyone will discuss Barriss and General Grievous killing b***hes
Bad Batch flopped, there is no real lasting impact and no legacy to be had, the fanbase of this show is extremely, extremely small - even smaller than rebels - and it's all comprised of women and manchildren
>Barriss
Why'd they have to make her the Temple Bomber? Of all the characters to go with, they chose her, the healer.
because she was in like two episodes with Ahsoka and they could pretend she was her friend
cheap shock factor
Why not? She's more interesting than when she was another goody-two-shoes random glup shitto Jedi who became another statistic in Order 66 casualties.
She was also never a healer in canon. "Force Healing" is a videogame bullshit, which is now, regrettably, canon with those dogshit sequels. But anyway, real life is full of examples when students and doctors become terrorists, see Chechnya, ISIS, and so on and so forth. They chose her because she was Ahsoka's friend and they had an arc together. It had to be personal, not some random Jedi who showed up for the first time in the arc itself.
>They chose her because she was Ahsoka's friend and they had an arc together. It had to be personal, not some random Jedi who showed up for the first time in the arc itself.
They didn't build them up being friends, nor show any signs of her disillusionment with the Jedi and the war. It came out of nowhere.
>They didn't build them up being friends
They literally did. We see them meeting for the first time, going through hell, bonding and becoming friends. They weren't just friends all of the sudden. We saw that happen. So that's a lie.
>nor show any signs of her disillusionment with the Jedi and the war
True. They should have had Barriss more in the show between S2 and S5. It's a byproduct of the show being episodic in nature, an anthology, with George just coming up with various stories without much planning ahead. Like why the show was out of order? Because George would say, "I wanna do a prequel to the story [x]", because they couldn't do that story in earlier seasons. With Barriss, it made sense to me nonetheless, given what her master was like, how she handled herself in the Geonosis arc, and how she behaved in the bombing arc. I liked that trajectory for the character, but I agree that it was not set up, and I see why some may be frustrated.
Mirialans are space Muslims
who cares about omega lmao
Omega will inevitably appear in live action (most likely ahsoka season 2)
but ideally she should be played by Keisha Castle-Hughes because she voices (and looks like) Emerie Karr, who is an adult omega already due to both being clones
no disrespect to michelle ang but she doesnt look like omega at all
I think Omega will stay an animation only character
Ang said she tried to get a role in TLJ but was rejected. Since it was probably Rose, she actually dodged a bullet there.
>Scorch shows up
>doesn't act like Scorch
>doesn't sound like Scorch
>doesn't do anything remotely demolitions related
>is completely useless and more or less is unable to complete single task to hinder the protagonists in any meaningful way
>no resolution to Delta Squad's fate or any further information on the group
>kill off the character unceremoniously
It's like why even bother to bring him back if you aren't even gonna put the slightest effort for having the character appear? He's legit just REMEMBER THING???? Like dangling a key in front of a child without any meaningful follow up.
't sound like Scorch
Well, all clones are supposed to sound the same, so you wouldn't have Carth Onasi voice him anyway in anything other than RC game.
>all clones are supposed to sound the same
Which turned out to be a detriment since a lot of the time you can't tell who's talking.
Never had that issue. Dee Baker does a good job of making clones sound distinct. Which is why I didn't like Bad Batch that much - because he used to do it very subtly with the regs, like Fox would be more firm and grim, Fives would be more lively, Gregor would be slightly unsure and shy at first, but then become confident once he'd recovered his memory and armor. Whereas with Bad Batch, they are overly exaggerated archetypes: Wrecker is super loud obnoxious Heavy from TF2, Tech is Nerd Emoji voice, and so on. That was also my problem with Sev's voice in RC, he is just such a caricature, so edgy and tryhard, I couldn't take him seriously.
Aren't these buttholes supposed to be the same person? Why the significant differences?
They were also trained and raised in the same fricking place their whole lives. They CAN NOT be so different from one another. They're clones of the same fricking guy.
Who are you talking about? Bad Batch or Delta Squad from Republic Commando game? Bad Batch are a bunch of mutants. Delta Squad were all voiced by different people to make it easy for the player to follow who is who, instead of just 4 Temuera Morrison's talking constantly (I don't think he has the biggest emotional range).
I like Sev's characterization and his dynamic with Scorch, but his voice I cannot take seriously. Such a stereotypical "cool guy" edgy voice, just makes me laugh. Can't take him as a real character because of that, the other Deltas always felt more like actual people and characters.
>Who are you talking about?
The Clones. All of them.
That's the point though, everyone views him as psychotic and a cartoon character because as one of the loading says he legit was suffering from a genetic defect and is more or less a maniac who just fricking loves murder. Like remember, he gets the shit beaten out of him by tiny ass midget trandoshans and grumbles about getting even. Like Sev is supposed to be over the top and unhinged, you're supposed to regard him as the freak of the group.
>Aren't these buttholes supposed to be the same person?
Only genetically. They're otherwise individual people. Which was all the more fostered because the Jedi Knights encouraged their developing their individuality. Even Yoda points out that through the force they're all different.
>Why the significant differences?
To contrast them with the upcoming Stormtroopers. The Clones are all the exact same genetic stock, who,by being born into the service and through the war, develop unique personalities and individual appearances. As opposed to the Imperial Stormtroopers, who start out as individuals through innumerable variations of breeding stock as the result of being recruits and conscripts, give themselves to the machine of the Empire and forsake their individuality and personalities to become faceless cannon-fodder.
>As opposed to the Imperial Stormtroopers, who start out as individuals through innumerable variations of breeding stock as the result of being recruits and conscripts, give themselves to the machine of the Empire and forsake their individuality and personalities to become faceless cannon-fodder.
They're still regular humans with families. Luke wanted to become one of them till his aunt and uncle died.
>They're still regular humans with families
That's the contrast to the clones. The clones are faceless numbers who grow into individuals. Whilst the Stormtroopers are individuals who throw their individuality away to become faceless numbers.
>Luke wanted to become one of them till his aunt and uncle died.
He wanted to go to an academy. That doesn't specifically imply being a stormtrooper. Han went to an academy to be a pilot, washed out and still didn't become a Stormtrooper by the time he deserted on Mimban.
>He wanted to go to an academy. That doesn't specifically imply being a stormtrooper. Han went to an academy to be a pilot, washed out and still didn't become a Stormtrooper by the time he deserted on Mimban.
Because they were clones during the OT.
>Because they were clones during the OT.
Incorrect. We already know the Empire discharged the clones and threw them all into the streets no later than 5 years after the Empire was established and replaced them with recruits (Stormtroopers). And by the time of the OT, all the clones would've been too old due to their accelerated aging. There were no clones serving the Empire in active field duty during the OT.
>We already know the Empire discharged the clones and threw them all into the streets no later than 5 years after the Empire was established and replaced them with recruits (Stormtroopers)
That's Mouse Wars. I'm talking about who they were when the OT was coming out. Lucas talked about it in the AotC commentary.
>I'm talking about who they were when the OT was coming out.
Which was recruits. Always recruits.
>Lucas talked about it in the AotC commentary.
Clearly he never committed to such an idea because he never re-recorded all the Stormtrooper lines in the OT with Temuera Morrison. And he would've never went into such lengths to make the Clone Troopers the opposite of Stormtroopers in TCW.
>Which was recruits. Always recruits.
In the EU, which Lucas never considered canon.
>In the EU
The EU doesn't matter. Only canon stuff does and Stormtroopers were never canonically clones.
When Jango bonks his head on the door of Slave 1, Lucas states that it's a callback to the Stormtrooper bonking his head on a door in ANH. The idea being that the trait was cloned into all of them.
>Clearly he never committed to such an idea because he never re-recorded all the Stormtrooper lines in the OT with Temuera Morrison. And he would've never went into such lengths to make the Clone Troopers the opposite of Stormtroopers in TCW.
He never went with it. Stormies never became clones. Deal with it.
Because the Special Edition for ANH was done before Morrison was cast.
That didn't stop him from making further edits. Like replacing Sebastian Shaw with Hayden Christensen. If he really wanted the Stormtroopers to be clones, he would've had Tem redo their lines. But he didn't, because he obviously dropped the idea.
>Like replacing Sebastian Shaw with Hayden Christensen
For consistency. Hayden IS Anakin.
>because he obviously dropped the idea.
I agree. My point was that it was the case during the making of the OT.
>Hayden IS Anakin
Not to me.
>My point was that it was the case during the making of the OT
An unrealized idea is still an unrealized idea. Which means the Stormies were still never clones.
You mean making a 45 year old look closer to his actual age rather than 90? him looking toasted as he was inside his suit would have been better than him looking old as frick
meant for
That was the funny part about Sev, Scorch constantly ribs him about him being a weirdo and Sev grumbling as you force him to get some bacta. He just likes killing shit.
Dude, I could not give a frick about the clones. I just couldn't with them.
But they reused the different sounding clones for the Bad Batch tbh, like Tech, Wrecker, and Crosshair do not sound like standard clones due to their deviancy. Like just have Bradley Dee Baker at least try and affectation or copy his speech mannerisms even if you're gonna standardize Scorch.
>Bradley Dee Baker
Don't know why people like him so much. Dude sounds like a cartoon rather than a real guy. He also has the wrong accent.
They don't even need to get the old voice actor, just let him emote some, and if Scorch quipping doesn't fit the his role as an Empire baddy just don't use Scorch.
The fact that Scorch was terribly misused is not in question. I agree with that. Was merely saying to the other anon that all clones would have to be voiced by the same guy, and Deltas were voiced by different people to make it easier for the player to distinguish them and give them more personality.
They had Delta Squad show up for a cameo in TCW and Dee Bradley Baker voiced Boss so I don't think the issue is the voice actor. It's the fact that he just talks like a stiff.
Because he was not given anything to work with. "Scorch" in the script was just a by-the-book grim Imperial bootlicker, that's how he was written and directed and that's how he portrayed him. It's not his fault, but the writers' and directors, who simply don't know the character. You want him to portray Scorch from RC, but that Scorch is not "Scorch" from TBB and was never written as such.
R.I.P. Scorch
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The show in general treated commandos just as a set dressing and nothing more. The writers of the show used them only as an eye candy for aesthetics and simply did not understand their purpose. It is telling that they created their own black super edgy and competent OC troopers, who do what the commandos are supposed to do, meanwhile the actual OG commandos were turned into guards patrolling hallways, and the very few commandos we had seen in the field were like commanders of TK troopers, and they were grossly incompetent and pathetic. These CX shadow troopers should have never existed. They are redundant and pointless. Nothing came out of them. They were no one important, no revelations came out of it, and they will never ever be used again in anything, because Hemlock died, Tantiss is closed, and they were his personal project. CX troopers should have been clone commandos, and guard duty could be handled by the TK or shock troopers.
I am also not against Scorch becoming angry and edgy as a concept. In fact, you could make a good story from it. Boss and Fixer made him abandon Sev. It is not a stretch to see things through that perspective. However, Republic Commando is not officially canon, Sev never went missing as far as we know, the show never established any context, Delta Squad was never even mentioned. Scorch was not a character in this show. He was a glorified easter egg with no history, no character, no arc - he was just a set dressing for Hemlock. And anything with him from this point forward (if there is going to be anything at all - if ever with commandos) is tainted by his pathetic death, which has to be one of the most pathetic deaths in Star Wars. He did not even get the chance to fight back. He died like a nameless redshirt. If that was the ultimate fate of Hemlock's henchman, then it should have been simply a generic OC commando. Nothing warranted him being Scorch. And it made a lot of people angry for no reason. Baffling decision all around.
Starkiller is too based to be part of what star wars is today
so what the frick was Project Necromancer?
my best guess was that they were trying to clone the emperor as a way to keep him immortal? but I genuinely don't recall it ever being confirmed or explained
Justifying the "Somehow Palpatine returned" line.
>introduce "somehow" plot for the series
>all data is destroyed and the guy behind it is dead
>Tarkin moves all funding to the Death Star anyway
What's their fricking end goal here?
Building towards the sequels without actually commiting to them, in case Disney admits they're wrong and chucks them in the trash.
We don't know. They never showed us what was inside those tubes. So, imagine if someone is to watch only The Bad Batch. The show teased this bullshit for 3 seasons. And it never gave an answer. Most of the show was that: tease, no payoff. What a mess, lmao. You are REQUIRED to watch Mandalorian and sequels to know hwat the frick is happening in a show set after Revenge of the Sith.
Oh, and Nala Se literally explained it to Rampart off-screen. Shit was fricking hilarious.
>NOW, TELL ME EVERYTHING ABOUT PROJECT NECROMANCER
>[cuts away]
lmao
This show is so fricking bad.
fricking this, as soon as that cut away happened I rewind it thinking my computer skipped forward a bit, BUT NOPE
This shit is hilarious considering how the times clones of Sidious were shown in the Mandalorian and the Rise of Skywalker, you could clearly see them through glass.
Clones in Mandalorian were apparently irrelevant to the ST shit, and were clones of Gideon. The entire plot of Mando was basically Bad Batch (bad batch copied it, as it came out later), where Empire was hunting down this super very special unique child for their blood in order to make force sensitive clones or some shit. That's what Gideon wanted. But Bad Batch tells us that all the data was destroyed. Yet Gideon somehow knows how to achieve this with Grogu's blood. But then there was the father or whatever of that ginger guy from the sequels, and he is also on project necromancer... Thinking about this just gives me a headache. None of it makes any sense.
forgot pic
gus jumpscare
Why are they old? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to have younger clones who could stick around longer?
Because then you can't tell it's the character.
>'yeah these frickers are my clones'
>they look just like him, but younger
Wow, that's really hard for the audience to pick up on
Hell, the EU did that
>look at me mando
WOAH IS THAT THE BREAKING BAD GUY IN STAR WARS? I GOTTA WATCH THE SHOW NOW.
he was an actual cool villain for once
>Gideon puts all his clones in one location and leaves them without protection and it all get fricked
>Hemlock puts all his data in one location and leaves it without protection and it all gets fricked
Empire sucks at security.
Has been a while since I watched mando, but weren't his clones behind a corridor of lasers?
>but weren't his clones behind a corridor of lasers?
Rayshields. And troopers behind every layer.
At least Scarif had some actual protection. Place was pretty much impenetrable for the most part
Empire is fricking moronic, absolutely non-functioning government. It makes no sense. It makes no sense that it existed even for 20 years.
The worst implication of this show is that anyone can just go and frick up the Empire at the height of its power, kill untold amount of soldiers, personnel, frick up their military infrastructure - and get away with it.
You can just go and chill on the planet where they had actually already been and where they fricking captured you once, and they will never come again. You will get to live in peace until your old days.
They will just let you go, and forgive you for being a terrorist mass murderer, who would be on top 1 wanted list in any sane fricking government, and who would be relentlessly looked for by all the fricking security services, police, military of a GALACTIC FRICKING GOVERNMENT AT THE HEIGHT OF ITS POWER.
Oh, our base got fricked up and we lost shit ton of men and scientists, we lost the project that was of PERSONAL interest to the Emperor that he visited PERSONALLY, and those who did it just fricking escaped, escaped with prisoners they freed? Oh, well!
Who gives a shit, lol!
Let them go!
Makes Andor all the more fricking hilarious, that Dedra was shitting her pants trying to find someone who stole that shit for ships that Andor sold to Luthen. If this was "le peak bad batch" writers, she wouldn't even bother scratching her ass over such a minor thing.
Granted, they had already done this moronic shit with Lothal in Rebels, where they just overthrew Imperial government and as far as the Empire was concerned killed their top Imperial Grand Admiral and his fleet. And there was never any retaliation strike. Even though a few Star Destroyers would suffice to bomb Lothal from orbit. No, no one bothered. You can just frick up the Empire and get away with it. This is actually hilarious how moronic and infantile these fricking shows are.
This is the same shit that Star Trek did with the Cardassians too.
Makes the empire seem benevolent and forgiving.
>Makes the empire seem benevolent and forgiving.
More like comically incompetent and insane. Imagine if some arabs did to some US military base what bad batch did to Tantiss, and US would never retaliate, and would not find those goat frickers on the edge of the frickign earth or wherever they would be hiding, and anyone even slightly related to them. This is unthinkable. This makes no sense. But Bad Batch just fricks off to fricking Pabu after everything they did, and they live for decades in peace and grow older, and Empire never fricking bothered to even look for them, and they never found them, even though fricking ventress somehow found them, and galactic government could not, I guess? This is just so dumb. All for the sake of forced, sugarcoated Disney™ happy ending. This is such a dogshit storytelling. This is unironically a fairy tale, and it has no right to pretend that it's anything but. Only the show tried to bait people and pretended that it is something more, when this is a moronic nonsense for 7 year old girls.
>More like comically incompetent and insane.
True, but it is funnier to imagine the opposite and that they are just really nice guys that everyone is having overreactions to over a couple of events that are ultimately a drop in the bucket on a galactic scale
Basically
That's kind of why I wish the BB finale was more of a bloodbath. Even if it ultimately ended with the destruction of Tantis, have the entire mission seem like a complete suicide mission. have Wrecker and Crosshair die. have Emerie and the kids ship get shot out the air when they tried to escape. Have Hunter sacrifice himself getting Omega off-world. Even if it still ends with Harlock's death and Project necromancer being shelved, just have the mission have CONSEQUENCES. Omega dealing with intense survivors guilt being the last of her brothers
Andor had the empire looking for a man they already had in captivity, the Empire is just not very bright.
Yeah, it was dumb. But at least they were looking. Here, Tarkin just shows up and says "frick it", and they apparently never bothered. Same with Lothal. This is just super dumb, and anyone who unironically thinks this is good (there are so many morons who call Rebels "peak", lmao) is unironically braindead.
It's just moronic writing where things don't have consequences, you see it all over the place nowdays. It's just particularly notable in Star Wars because somehow the writing is even shittier than normal.
>Empire is fricking moronic, absolutely non-functioning government.
They ALWAYS were! Where the frick were you people over the past 40 years?! Every Sith Empire devolves into moronic petty backstabbing of coworkers, leading to utter incompetence and inability to fix problems because the underlings are too afraid to bring up the problems, and the leaders are too narcissistic or insane to care. There was a REASON Vader tended to use Force Choke at LEAST once a week on some dipshit who fricked up.
No, no, Palpatine's Empire is easily the most successful because he has common sense. All this dumb shit lately is because Disney doesn't know how to write villains.
No, the Empire was incompetent LONG before the Mouse came along. Palpatine and Vader were the only really competent people in it. Everyone else was a drooling fricktard, to varying degrees.
Not really. See the tantive, following the rebels to yavin where they kill most, then esb, then in rotj where they only loose do to the natives joining against them.
Empire was like Russia before yidney got its hands on it. Competence, incompetence, corruption and negligence all side by side like they were the homosexual family tree in Brazil.
I think its because Disney wants to portray the Empire like its a white male thing and the rebels are diverse group of people led by strong liberated women.
I mean all the storm troopers are basically literally a bunch of white guys. The Emperor is an english wrinkeled old man who is cartoonishly evil. all the female characters can do no wrong, even Nale Se who is an evil c**t has all her crimes forgiven because shes a woman.
Disney is so fricking girly and gay.
I dunno, the empire is alien-racist but they have a bunch of differently colored humans in power. And they're constantly hyping thrawn up (while writing him poorly)
Rebels had that female imperial who looks like the villain from Indy 4, and Mando has Moff Gideon who is a black guy.
The issue is that the Galactic Empire was always vaguely oppressive without having much of an apparent ideology beyond hating the Jedi. They were all white dudes in the original but notice how the rebels also were all white men.
>ignoring lando ackbar and nieb
Come on dude.
No memory of these
>Galactic Empire was always vaguely oppressive
I always thought it was an after effect from the Separatist movement devastating the Republic. The Republic didn't want that happening again so the Senate allowed the Empire to form to oppress the galaxy to maintain order that they deem necessary so peace can be achieved.
>Every Sith Empire
Palpatine Empire is not Sith Empire, it's just corrupted republic.
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>There was a REASON Vader tended to use Force Choke at LEAST once a week on some dipshit who fricked up.
That's a meme. He only did that to those who fricked up hard. It isn't supposed to be a regular occurrence. If Vader's written that way, you're doing it wrong.
He did it twice in Empire, the first time it come across as kinda stupid like maybe Vader should have consulted with Admiral Ozzel about how to approach the rebel base, instead Vader comes off as like a woman with too much power, ie he just didnt like Ozzel and was looking for an excuse to kill him, I mean if you have a massive military operation involving a space fleet and Vader is supreme commander shouldnt he be telling his subordinates what he wants done instead of throwing a hissy fit when someone doesnt read his mind?
The next is some random captain who takes responsibility and apologizes to Vader about the Falcon escaping, Vader chokes him out maybe just to cause fear among the other staff members that failure is not tolerated.
The final time is then when the Falcon escapes again, you can see the looks on the bridge crew that they all expect Vader to lose his shit and choke someone but Vader is out in another world in pensive thought to choke someone out as he was just deeply emotional and maybe even conflicted after just confronting Luke and then having telepathic conversation with him.
Basically if anything the whole Darth Vader choking thing to me comes across like Vader is some moody butthole who just wants to abuse his power when something doesnt go his way or someone doesnt do what he would have done despite the fact he never informed them of his expectations in the first place. Its kind of a joke because the idea is say Vader is supposed to be a military genius and a space wizard who is in special command but really it just shows that hes a bad leader who doesnt know how to command his men while using the excuse that posession of power is an excuse to use that power whenever he wants. For someone who is in charge of a military force Vader is surprisingly undisciplined.
>Star Wars cartoons are so dead
Just like Star Wars movies.
porn of the female clone doctor when?
Why do sunk cost homosexuals still care about Star Wars? Just let it lie in peace within its grave.
What is the fate of Lucasfilm Animation now? Will they only make a bunch of tales of whatever from now on?
Wait until May 4th for the announcement of the next show
I don't get why it isn't on the actual anniversary on May 25th. A pun is more important than that?
Because of Star Wars fans
They were hiring new animators recently. So something big is on the way.
Did anyone see AZI-3 in the finale? He was done frickin dirty.
>have AZI, Rex and Echo in the show
>no one talks about Fives
>have him mentioned once as a throwaway line and never again
This show is very bad.
Oh, and also
>Nala Se is freed by Omega
>Echo is okay with it
>Nala Se gets a heroic death
>Nala Se's role in everything terrible that's happened to the clones was never acknowledged by the show even once
>the character never once expressed any guilt about that
>the character is a good guy because mary sue omega likes her
fricking kek, really
it is honestly baffling just how terrible it is
It's so bad at its job. Can't even diagnose PTSD
So Omeeguh dies, right? That was 100% a deathflag by hunter.
Yes, Empire captured her soon after she joined the Rebellion following the first Death Star's destruction and brought her to Exegol to get blood drained for the Palpatine clone just in time for real Palpatine's death which explains how Gideon already was able to perfectly clone himself with high M-count six years after RotJ.
>rebel pilot
Almost certain death
Worried parents at the beginning of a call to adventure are at best a death flag for themselves
Realistically, Filoni will never let a major female character die
Meeguh was older, even if they called her their kid. This was more like the well meaning older sibling telling their precocious younger sibling not to worry, seconds before disaster.
It is literally a parent-child relationship anon, age is irrelevant
only hunter was the father figure
crosshair and wrecker were the big brothers
echo was the mother figure because he was always sorting out the squads shit
>she knows what to do, Crosshair
>wait for her then take the shot
>song playing in the background
this scene was fricking kino. Also holy shit they should've let us see the baby get reunited with their mom. What the frick Filoni.
Don't worry, you will get "Tales of the Kidnapped Children" soon on Disney+!
But really, stories like this would be cool to watch. Another reason why these shows would benefit from just being arcs in a larger anthology show.
lets not forget the animation quality
that rain is so good
I genuinely cannot wait for Tales of the Empire due to the animation. They've improved so much since TCW days
"My teachers; Ahsoka Tano, Omega, Assaj Ventress, and Ben Kenobi taught me everything I know!" - Luke in some expanded Original Trilogy 3D CGI series, like Star Wars Rebels but written like Clone Wars/Bad Batch, Directed by Dave Filoni
Why'd he name his son Ben and not Anakin?
Since when did Luke have a son. He never had one. What you're going to tell me that he was married!?. Yeah right
Ben was more deserving.
Obi-Wan literally tried to manipulate Luke into killing his own father.
Because said father was a genocidal moron, even limiting perspective to the OT exclusively.
Are you one those people that think the Jedi were 100% in the right in the prequels?
Not really.
Even if you think Obi-Wan was misguided to believe killing Vader was the only option (and he wasn't all that off target), that doesn't compare to what Anakin did as Vader.
>moron
OT dweeb detected.
Leia had a kid named anakin already would be rude. And Ben's the reason he went on an adventure to begin with.
>Leia had a kid named anakin already
Why?
In the eu she had one. It was a whole thing of her naming him that as a way to redeem the name.
Anakin solo actually got with a tusken raised girl (anakin seething as a ghost)
>a tusken raised girl
What do they look like?
She's human. Tuskens aren't a race, but a culture.
sand people are both, but are known to take in children from other races occasionally
>It was a whole thing of her naming him that as a way to redeem the name.
Why'd they have Leia do that? That seems more like a Luke thing to do. Especially since he's the one who actually had a bond with his father.
This was the only good part of any Star Wars media that came out after the first season of Mandalorian.
Mando morons deserved it. It's comforting to know that they're completely irrelevant in the ST that they probably got owned by the First Order.
Andor is Kino sorry
the show is overall a 7/10
3/10 at best, with the 3 points solely for great visuals and music
We missed out on the possibility of getting a "Star Wars: Rampart" series with the butthole imperial doing butthole imperial things. Why'd he have to die? :'(
The clone saying "Just be glad you aren't a jedi anymore" sounded Ai generated. Think they're trying to push out Dee since they have like a decades worth of VA on file?
1. This is a shitty fan-made trailer with fricked up sound, editing and cut out lines.
2. He sounds fine. This is just some pissed fricking clone, who would rather shoot her but can't.
yeah I def missed that first one, nm
fa/tg/uys are saying Tales of the Empire is already out on some trackers.
Let's form up
I didn't care about Clone Wars. Will I like this?
no
Probably not
It's a focused story as opposed to Clone Wars' random sometimes-connected stories, so if that's what was holding you back then maybe
Though you'd be missing a some backstory on most of the characters
Was it red red green or red green red?
Star Wars just got a huge event in Fortnite. Cry more.
>Anyway I will enjoy seeing Disney make more failure Star Wars media.
You don't seem to be enjoying it.
With TotE probably closing up the Barriss storyline, is there any plot from TCW that still hasn't been finished?
>Son of Dathomir
>Dark Disciple
>Boba Fett vs Cad Bane
>Crystal Crisis on Utapau
More or less resolved indirectly.
No longer canon.
Resolved directly.
Unresolved.
I didn't mean unproduced TCW arcs, just the characters.
>Son of Dathomir
Maul died in Rebels
>Boba Fett vs Cad Bane
Bane died in TBoBF
>Dark Disciple
To be fair, this one was closed in that novel but TBB just opened Ventress story again
>Crystal Crisis on Utapau
Idk about this one
>>Son of Dathomir
Resolved in a way
>>Dark Disciple
kind of de-canonized with ventress returning in Bad Batch
>>Boba Fett vs Cad Bane
Both Boba Fett and Bane died in that... thing they call the Boba Fett show
Crisis on Utapau
Now there's something. I actually wish they finished that
>Both Boba Fett and Bane died in that
Cad Bane died. Boba got the dent in his helmet.
No that Boba Fett is a complete joke
Blame Lucas for keeping Daniel Logan instead of having Dee just do his Numbuh 4 voice.
with Star Wars becoming more female focus
is there an actual increase of female fans or has everything just been the same?
A very, very slight increase followed by most of those fans leaving with everyone else as the franchise continues to reach unimaginable lows, until the only ones remaining are actual paid shills and media addict womanchildren on the same level as whoever still reads Amazing Spider-Man.
By and large, everything has become worse than "the same"
>media addict womanchildren
The Rebels subreddit is literally all women.
So what's the consensus?
eh, it was alright i guess?
not as good as tales of the jedi though
barriss is still a qt even though they got rid of her booba
>even though they got rid of her booba
Actual gayness.
Visually stunning, Lucasfilm Animation outdid themselves yet again. And people thought Bad Batch looked good. This makes Bad Batch look like past-gen in comparison. Incredible direction and cinematography. Morgan's arc was pretty straightforward and alright. Barriss' arc is interesting and may be controversial, but the more I think about it the more I like it. Pretty good. Better than the unseasoned chicken nothingburger that was Bad Batch with its disney-ass gay ending.
I love his autistic sounds
The animation is all it has going for it.
I like to think that Barriss was raped in prison
By me
The worst part about modern Star Wars media is that since Disney refuses to expand past the Galactic Empire, all they can use are Vader and the Inquisitors. No one finds the Inquisitor's threatening and Vader is invincible until Luke comes along. High Republic can't fix this because that won't have any Sith.
>High Republic can't fix this because that won't have any Sith.
Why focus on the most boring period of Star Wars?
The Sith ruled the galaxy for 1000 years before the establishment of the Republic. It wasn't a unified empire, but fiefdoms instead. Each ruled by their respective Sith Lord. And the Jedi were the underdogs. That's a shit ton of story potential right there, and yet they focus on the era where nothing fricking happens?
>almost half a century's worth of star wars content
When is it going to be enough already?