>Take the powers of a villain, and use them for good
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>Take the powers of a villain, and use them for good
>Take the powers of a villain, and use them for good
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What are powers usually associated with villains? The only one I can really think of is hypnosis/mind manipulation, but Jedi mind tricks and Martian Manhunter puts a positive spin on that as well.
Am I the only who thinks the Jedi mind tricks are fricked up?
Star Wars always uses the force choke to symbolize a character is turning to the dark, but the mind tricks are much more wicked in concept than that.
It's diplomacy vs force. Mind tricks save the jedi time and the tricked their lives most of the time.
>Am I the only who thinks the Jedi mind tricks are fricked up?
They're the R word as a magical power.
moron?
you have to be moronic to give a shit about calling rape "the R word"
Rhinoceros powers?
Jedi Mind Tricks are why I'm honestly kind of Okay with the Jedi being as strict and staunch about how the shit they teach is used, because the alternative is Force Sensitive Purple Man.
>Star Wars always uses the force choke to symbolize a character is turning to the dark, but the mind tricks are much more wicked in concept than that.
That would require mind tricks to actually work on anything other than a few nameless mooks. Every third goddamn moron is immune to it in star wars.
This is honestly hard as frick to do, because villains will usually have powers that are suited for villainy.
Mind control/mind altering powers, usually. There are heroes that have them, but they seldom use it, mainly because they will usually have other powers to use. Whenever a hero does something bad, it's usually mind control by a villain.
One thing I liked about MHA was that it did try to explore this, although not too much, with Hitoshi Shinso who has a gimped version of Killgrave's mind control powers but he tries to still be a hero even while acknowledging how villainous his powers are. It's too bad MHA just really became doo doo dogwater and Shinso couldn't really be fully fleshed out.
Another power considered villainous is reality warping. There's usually rarely any heroic reality warpers, mainly because they can just snap their fingers and solve the problem. And if they do exist, they're usually gimped or have some weird reason why they can't use their powers.
>It's too bad MHA just really became doo doo dogwater and Shinso couldn't really be fully fleshed out.
The same could be said of a lot of MHA's early concepts: really cool ideas that the author was not interested in exploring because they fell into shonen formulas instead after they got a taste of success.
Like, people with quirks that result in them "looking like villains" (aka, having monstrous forms) being discriminated against. Unfair, but totally realistic.
What happens when Superman can't keep up being Superman, but society has made him a cultural icon and depends on him? Good concept.
The villains, while being buttholes, not being *wrong* that the status quo is unfair to people and the hero profession is full of corrupt gloryhounds? Nice way to introduce some shades of grey and legitimacy to the villain's stance into the mix so its not just cops and robbers.
And so on.
Shame is got so bad later on.
Is MHA:Vigilante any good? I keep hearing that it really fills that gray superhero niche without falling into grimderp like a lot of similar works do.
Also, do I need read MHA to "get" it?
>Is MHA:Vigilante any good?
I've heard it is
>Also, do I need read MHA to "get" it?
no
it has some weird moments, but overall I think it's pretty good
Who is that b***h and why isn't she in jail?
She's clearly a villain that Allmight would SMASH
Midnight, she's a hero and one of the teachers at the school (somehow)
That's Deku's stepmom
She's objectively right. If there was more women like her, incels and all those other communities stewing in their own lack of positive experiences with women wouldn't exist.
>Shinso couldn't really be fully fleshed out
Hori actually said he was going to have a focus on Shinso.
But he’s so OP that I think he quietly dropped it
Any death-related power
>What are powers usually associated with villains?
Decay? It's a nasty power thats easy to harm people, on top of being associated with death and rot.
However, you could use it to disintegrate fallen debris during rescue if your control is good enough.
>What are powers usually associated with villains?
acids and poisons
Bioweapons and viruses. Fugo from JoJo is an example of a good guy having this.
Mind control
there are plenty of heroic telepaths though
Since when do mouth breathers can't make the difference between simple basic shit like mind control and telepathy?
Something like EVIL magic. The power to corrupt. Stuff cartoonishly evil with no subtlety.
Any kind of person manipulation.
Mental, body, emotional, blood, soul
You get the idea
The main one I think of is the decay/death blight power that Shigaraki has in MHA and Wither has in Marvel. There's very little heroic potential in a power that kills anyone you touch, and it naturally makes whoever possess it bitter and antisocial.
Intelligence, and I wish I were kidding.
Necromancy, soul stealing, chemicals or hormones that persuades or manipulates the perception of judgement of a person, which is similar to mind control.
Pretty much any power that hampers the consent of a person expressing their rights is usually is seen as evil. I would also argue having a power that manipulates memories is also an evil power, because it has the potential to fundamentally change a person against their will.
I mean, when your power is forcing everyone around your target to give that target the silent treatment or make them disappear or be hated at a whim, that's kind of an evil power, even if you targeted someone who deserved it.
You reminded me of something I’m working on due to that exact question
A story about a shy girl with mind control power’s trying to avoid being noticed by superheroes
very rare to see a hero with gadgets/robot minions even though that's one of the easiest ones to use for good
Mimicry of sorts. Sandman, Inque, a majority of Logia users (Crocodile, Enel, Akainu)
Huh, I never thought of elemental transformations as mimicry but you are right
The entire schtick of Kamen Rider
Powers become They/Them
I guess necromancy could have a good side but that depends on how you see life at a philosophical level.
this comic's artstyle was so ugly, homelander always looked like a chubby baby.
Time control is almost inevitably a villain power because it makes time crisis situations non-issues and is therefore only useful dramatically as an OP adversary to overcome or a retcon power.
Poison is a common villain power but the ability to create specific kinds of toxins or anti venom could be brilliant. Just the ability to transmute or produce vast amounts of chemicals is crazy useful. Also, lots of villains aren't immune to toxins, so subduing them with a touch might be possible.
Illusions are a 'villain power' I think could be very useful heroically, as is invisibility. Get in and out of a dangerous environment quickly and undetected, or confuse a villain so thoroughly that they can no longer coherently commit crime.
So basically Kamen Rider
There's really no such thing as villainous or heroic powers, it's usually just the context in which they're used. We even have heroes whose powers are portrayed as literally toxic and radioactive, and they're still heroic because usually their dillemma is in containing themselves and using something dangerous for the greater good. Similarly Homelander's powers are only seen as heroic because he's obviously a juxtaposition of Superman, but comics are lousy with heroes with Superman's exact powers and they're rarely thought of innately heroic powers.
Laius thinks it's about the scent. It's actually interesting to think of how domestication might work if we had different species. Like we domesticated dogs, are they wired to only work with humans? If Ayys came down and we gave them a dog, would they instinctually just be like "no that's wrong, it doesn't look right or act right or smell right, not a friendly!" or would it just be cool with it? Like I remember hearing on Rogan that Babboons have kidnapped dogs and then used them as guard dogs, but that's probably bullshit.
The context in which they're shown is usually pretty harmless like ObiWan basically just saying "please frick off", really the only fricked up use was QuiGon attempting to swindle what was presumably an innocent israeli TapirBug for no reason other than it being expedient.
M'gann has whole episodes about the ethics of her telepathy, usually a heroic telepath usually explains the boundaries they need to keep to consider themselves good. Majority of telepaths in comics seem to constantly have moments where someone calls them out on being kind of fricking evil. Prof X and Jean are at the point where it's a fricking meme that they're just evil but on the good guy team.
Wouldn't Rapeman be the perfect example of this?
Magneto should have gone into the concrete business. He'd make a fortune setting up rebar so you wouldn't have to pay iron workers a union wage.
>good guy
>uses darkness/shadow powers
Love that trope.
>good
>evil
That's sorta Hank Pym's (AntMan) whole thing.
>Resurrection
Let families talk to dead relatives from the same year all the way to the previous millennium
>Mind control
Talk criminals out of doing crimes + make prison riots end on a whim
>Evil mustache
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