I liked a few elements, the ghosts, the reminder that death is not the end was great, it was interesting to watch overall. The paranormal stuff may have mislead some people (myself included) that there was some creature under the ice that killed the scientists so it may have been a bit of a letdown that the killers were just an angry mob. In retrospect it makes perfect sense they would take the law into their own hands because of the rampant disease and their newborns dying. It is however an inversion of S1 where the spiritual revelation arose in the last episode, maybe even the second half when Rust was in the hospital and when he was talking to Marty about his NDE and how he connected briefly to a 'field of love' and sensed his dad and daughter somewhere out there. Whereas in S4 it was sprinkled throughout with different characters seeing dead people. It may appear different but at its core S4 was not that far off S1. Danvers and Navarro were pessimistic and nihilistic the same way as Rust, and they all lost people; but they found out that death is not the end. We can't have the same exact story as S1, so they did a similar story but different. Every subsequent season of TD is overshadowed by S1, but we'll always have Rust and Marty.
it couldn't be more obvious that you are a shill who is doing damage control on Cinemaphile Cinemaphile for this garbo shitty tv show. you owe nick an apology.
No. If you ask me they should've left it open ended and leaned even more into the paranormal. I didn't like the ending, it was kinda anti-climactic but it was an OK show overall.
it was shit. nothing related to pizzagate or other conspiracies, nothing substantial enough relating to magical realism or occultism, no philosophical statement about life.
The fact that people as stupid as you exist genuinely hurts my brain. You think that HBO is paying an employee to sit on Cinemaphile at 5 o'clock in the goddamn morning to say nice things about a show that never stood a chance here to begin with because of the multi--ethnic female leads. Why? For what conceivable purpose? What would such a thing achieve? What, are they going to break your Nazism with this post? Are they going to cure you of being a 45 year old incel and get you to march at the next pride parade because they said a tepidly nice thing about a tv show you hate? Fricking tell why, you braindead marmoset
>is paying
he didnt say paid shill
So this is what, an intern or something?
Doing it on twitter makes sense. Doing it on reddit makes sense. Doing it on Cinemaphile at this hour makes no sense at all. None whatsoever.
it has already been revealed that marketing departments do damage control on social media regarding negative backlash towards movies.
OP here, I already agreed with a few serious criticisms above, I just wanted to at least say something positive in the beginning, because I honestly wasn't fuming at the mouth while watching it, like I said I didn't like the ending it felt a little bit like a wet fart, but it was OK ovreall. Good acting, good cinematography, story was a bit meh compared to the previous seasons, to be expected. But if I'm not raging at the show I must be a shill. Whatever man I don't give a frick, you guys are gonna pop a vessel.
we could have just kept getting nick pizzalato kino but instead we got this troony shit, its hard not to be angry. season 1-3 were actually about something, season 4 is fricking slop.
True, but at least it wasn't "girls get it done" in an obnoxious way, where the men were all morons and the girls were all supercop geniuses. It felt organic and not preachy. If the film is good like Prey and not like Charlie's Angels with Kstew I don't mind. Shows as big as this one have to up their game every season, and that includes heightening the conspiracy aspect... but it's getting too real now. It was already too real in SCENE ONE EPISODE ONE SEASON ONE with the RITUAL MURDER. 10 years later, season 4 comes out, almost zero conspiracy in comparison. Why? Why was the conspiracy element so far removed that it was literally in another country?
2+x=4
x=?
You can't eat good every day.
>It felt organic and not preachy
kek
KEK
K E K
>but at least it wasn't "girls get it done" in an obnoxious way, where the men were all morons and the girls were all supercop geniuses.
I think we were watching different shows. The men were all morons. The season finale had a bunch of clean up ladies turn into FBI operatives solving a murder and then executing a group of men.
They solved the case because they knew who did it? Unless you're saying something else, because I forgot the plot already, it must've gone over my head. As for the execution, it was 5 unarmed nerds vs 30 armed moms, they were outmanned (no pun intended) and outgunned, not really a gender issue. It doesn't matter who you are there's no escaping that situation.
>They solved the case because they knew who did it?
the one cleaning lady accidentally spilled water on the floor, found the hatch, decided to go into the hatch, saw a bunch of research equipment, decided to snoop around the place, found the star-shaped drill point, instantly made the connection between it and the wounds on a victim in a case from 6 years ago, told all of this to the other cleaning ladies and organised an armed assault on the station
I must've been alt-tabbed during that scene, and I was never not paying attention during the previous seasons. But yeah that's a stretch.
Hey OP, appreciate your opinion. I was really disappointed in the last episode, for me it retroactively made the other episodes worse. Previous episode was good and made me keen to see the finale. You win some you lose some. I'm looking forwards to seeing what Pizzolato does next but I won't be watching anything from Lopez.
Thanks man. I feel sort of the same way, I was thinking of saving a copy of the season once it was finished but now I don't see a reason to. Like why rewatch it and who am I going to show it to? It almost leaves a bad taste in your mouth.
The site has been normalgay central for years, you are severely out of touch and schizo rambling
You are saying that HBO is paying people to post nice things about True Detective on Cinemaphile at 6 AM on a monday. You don't get to call anyone else schizo, schizo
are you aware that multiple time zones exist.
time is a flat circle
a clock is also a flat circle
>i am the true detective
Oh shit, really? I had no idea. Thanks, anon. Thank you so fricking much. It all makes perfect sense now. They are appealing to the goddamn Indian market, which we all know is massive on Cinemaphile, because they're just now getting out of work.
Explain
This is the post I would've made. These schizo morons astound me. Everything is a conspiracy, everything is part of the big puppet machine, and all of us are being watched and tracked by agents. Everything is fake, everyone is controlled. Don't trust or believe anything. Except batshit crazy ideas with zero evidence supporting them. THAT you CAN believe, because it's insane and it's the opposite of what 'they' are telling you.
They all have main character syndrome.
>Well of course HBO cares deeply about MY opinion. I'm me, for cryin' out loud. Why wouldn't they pay someone to attempt to change my impossibly based takes. It is not the least bit implausible.
no dude, hollywood has been in a death spiral and is trying to control the narrative of their failure and using every trick in the book beisdes just hiring white men to write decent stories.
its not my unique opinion that they are silencing, its the huge amount of people who fricking hate this shit that they are trying to frame as a "incel minority". you saw the same shit with them framing all criticism as mysoginy like with the reaction to the female ghost busters movie.
>no dude, hollywood has been in a death spiral and is trying to control the narrative of their failure
I do not doubt that. The problem is the idea that they're doing it on this site, at this hour. Do they also have a kiwi farms and stormfront division? 420 chan? Are they on deepweb bestiality forums? Cinemaphile is a lost cause. It would be like going to North Korea and trying to get them to vote for Mitt Romney in their next election. It's the wrong audience and it doesn't even make sense. If they want to spin it as a bunch of incel virgins review bombing everything, it is in their best interest to let Cinemaphile do it's Cinemaphile thing while trying to sway people who might actually be receptive to their messaging. Making Cinemaphile change its mind is the opposite of what they should be doing. If there are no incels hating it, then who are they going to blame for their own mediocrity?
Not him but you're operating on the premise these people are competent.
These people also wrote a show that the average autist here could have done a better job at.
You can't go wrong assuming someone who can't back up their preferences for something is a shill.
>These people also wrote a show that the average autist here could have done a better job at.
This is just not true. While the show is trash, it was not anything bordering incompetent. I feel like the people who say this kind of thing have never studied anything arts related. People call big time actors incompetent when what they really mean is boring.
People call Michael Cera an "incompetent" actor. He isn't. Yeah, he has no range and he's definitely towards the bottom of the barrel in terms of recognizable actors, but there's a thousand worlds of distance between Michael Cera and some butthole auditioning for summerstock at your local community college.
I wen to a film/drama conservatory. I've read scripts that are incompetent. This one is very bad, but it's a professionally written turd.
Weird tangent because I never mentioned actors.
But if these people greenlit such a bad script as you say and brought it all the way to a complete product without anyone pointing out or fixing the obvious flaws, that alone makes them incompetent. You're trying to argue semantics but you're wrong even on the fundamental level.
>Weird tangent because I never mentioned actors.
I know, it's just a bit easier to illustrate the point with actors than it is with scripts, which is a bit more intangible. Same concept though.
>But if these people greenlit such a bad script as you say and brought it all the way to a complete product without anyone pointing out or fixing the obvious flaws, that alone makes them incompetent
Nope. The Room was incompetent. This was just shitty. There are a million things that can go wrong throughout the filming process that can make or break the final product. This was lame and I disliked it, but it was not remotely unprofessional. It wasn't even bad-bad in terms of tv shows. It was much better than the shit HBO dumps onto streaming. Go watch Gotham Knights and compare it to this. Apples and oranges, and I wouldn't even call that show incompetent
Incompetent is not the same thing as unprofessional.
If your goal is to tell a compelling story and you fail at it, that makes you incompetent.
>But if these people greenlit such a bad script as you say and brought it all the way to a complete product without anyone pointing out or fixing the obvious flaws, that alone makes them incompetent
This is what an incompetent movie looks like. If you can honestly say there is no discernible difference between True Detective and Fateful Findings, you're lying to yourself
Both are incompetent to varying degrees and in different ways.
One is a story you didn't like. The other is objectively just not a real fricking movie. The fact that you disliked it does not mean it's incompetent
The irony.
The fact you dislike Neil Breen movies don't mean they're not real movies.
Varying degrees and different ways.
>The fact you dislike Neil Breen movies don't mean they're not real movies.
No serious human being could possibly walk into a movie theater, watch a Neil Breen movie, and mistake it for a professional film. You know this. You are pretending to be moronic to win the argument.
>professional
No one's mentioned professional.
We're talking competency.
Which is a spectrum not a binary designation.
Okay, fine. Literally every single person in this thread would have turned in a vastly superior script. In fact, I'm not sure what you're all doing wasting your time on Cinemaphile. Just go turn in your competent-ass scripts, dog
>We're talking competency.
>Which is a spectrum not a binary designation.
lol, ok. Acknowledging that we're talking about competency and not professionalism, what is the actual quality that differentiates a Neil Breen screenplay from True Detective? What would be required to put those things on a more level playing field?
I'm back briefly from /misc/ and wtf are you even talking about.
Level playing field?
I said what I had to say in the plainest terms.
If telling a good story is your goal and you fail for script related reasons (among others), then it's the failure in competency somewhere in the chain of writers, script doctors, producers etc.
Something else being worse or better doesn't change that.
>I'm back briefly from /misc/
Yeah that makes sense.
>If telling a good story is your goal and you fail for script related reasons
You don't seem to understand the difference between a story that you dislike and a story that is incompetently told. Again, while I don't personally care for this story, it is lightyears away from incompetent. There are tons of movies and shows written by competent people that I dislike. I don't care for Inception, but that doesn't make it an incompetent movie.
Yes. Literally.
>you braindead marmoset
you fricking bugman qeddit piece of shit. lmao kys
meds
Hello saar!
Yep. Definitely a shill.
lmao so they saw the reception it was getting last night I see
>2024, thinking anybody but pajeets and russian pol astroturfed on lunchbreak give a frick about Cinemaphile
>damage control
What for? Most people liked the new season
Its completely obvious its a fricking HBO employee. You can see right through based on sentence structure.
>You can see right through based on sentence structure.
Explain exactly how
nah, pure shit
native magic voodoo isnt good writing
>native magic voodoo
they don't even go into that stuff, which is why the finale is so irritating. all those obvious supernatural elements are introduced and just dropped.
>seeing dead people? the whole thing with navarro and the tree? uh, nothing to it i guess, they're just crazy haha.
>snake god under the ice? the panacea? tuttles? just forget about it
feels like a show about ghosts but they remembered it's actually some thing about detectives right at the end, so they stumble upon a key piece of evidence and it just ends.
navarro learn her native name through native magic, and she can speak with fosters son with native magic
you are a shill
he is a shill, but the question if it he does it for free
what is the thesis statement of this show. what is the philosophical statement about life that it is saying.
Also, the shows are all conspiracy core in its subtext. season 1 and 3 are about pizzagate, and season 2 are about cities that are run by the mafia, the police, and private military companies all working to gether, with secret sex parties and sex cults thrown in.
what the frick does this one have to do with conspiracies that are real in real life? what is it saying about life? death is not the end? corporate corruption is bad? corporations don't care about the climate? what is it saying?
>what is it saying about life?
white people BAD
> corporate corruption is bad?
no, only white people
>corporations don't care about the climate?
no, white people dont care about it, and they destroy the native land
that it is, dont look further
foster said it in the last scene "hannis has been here before i ever was here or the mine(they represent white people) and they will continue on" something like that she said
I guess you're right it was thin on conspiracy. It had some environmental messaging and corrupt corporations but it never got occult. There is only one line that paid lip service to that, that Tuttle Industries were funding the research centre and they were looking into anti-aging, cancer cures and life-extension, which is something the pizza elites are into. However there was no confrontation and car battery torture on a yacht, like I say, pretty thin on that front. Navarro just met the CEO? lady who told her to stop the investigation, but she wasn't high in the pyramid.
https://www.businessinsider.com/jeffrey-epstein-dna-genetics-research-drug-companies-2019-8
There was another associate of his, looked like a ghoul and named like a ghoul, yes Nygard was his name, who was inviting African American supermodels to his island for similar research purposes, genetic research life extension, etc. Now that I think about it, it's crazy we have HBO shows about these real conspiracies. Maybe the writers wanted to lean into the conspiracies more but the studios said
>That's crazy haha people aren't interested in these nonsensical stories here's your paycheck thank you for doing business with us
We'll never know what happens in the writers rooms but it's not unlikely something like the above conversation to have taken place.
most important question is "what is the theme statement"
like for the jim carrey movie "liar liar" the theme statement "not only could jim be a better lawyer if he didn't lie, he could be a better father and person if he didn't lie"
what is the philosophical argument that this show is making?
I don't know man
I read your posts, well put. I can't disagree with you there, especially when the show is only 6 eposides long, of course that's not enough time.
I actually thought it was 6 episodes too long but that's just me
>6 eposides long, of course that's not enough time.
It wasn't even that, some other anon mentioned how every episode they retread the same ground over and over. Like Navarro's sister has trouble and she has to go help her, Danvers meets with someone she fricked or the wife of someone she fricked and is chastised, Danvers has family drama with daughter, etc. There was so much time wasted or inefficiently used.
Meanwhile season 1's story literally spans several decades yet manages to build a consistent portrait of the characters.
the story wasn't dense in season 4. they spend so much time developing absolutely nothing. there's more story in episode 1 of season 1 than there is in probably the first 3-4 episodes of this shit. it's not even a matter of retreading because they were retreading ground they never should have even tread to begin with.
see in season 1 the character development has serious ramifications. the way marry acts gives him a divorce and it fricks the relationship between him and rust, so when we see his family life it means something. but when I see danvers fricking Dr. Who there's absolutely nothing that comes of it. and the same can be said of so many of the scenes. they just wanted scenes that were "powerful", not scenes that mattered in the story
Now that you mention it it's crazy True Detective season 1 was even greenlit in the first place for bringing attention to such real life elite pedo rings... and 5 years before Epstein was suicided no less.
I wonder if that wasn't the reason producers were so quick to shit out season 2, 3, and 4 or more conventional garbage because season 1 hit the elites too close to home.
season three literally brings up the franklin sex scandal by name.
i think the idea that there actually was no child sex ring in season 3 was a red herring and there actually was. the main charector has dementia, and the culprit literally just tells him "nah there was no sex ring a rich person just wanted to raise a child that reminded them of a child they lost" and then the main charectors son asks him if he thinks the case is solved and he's like "no". the subtext makes it pretty clear that actually there is a deeper story but he just took too long to get to the bottom of it and the case went cold.
Yea note how they name dropped a "hoax" though. As if to invite people to look it up and dismiss it.
They should have name dropped the Rothschilds.
Think what you're asking for a moment; you're in the Royal Palace and you're asking the Wizard of Oz to tell you about himself on the intercom.
nah anyone who really looks up the franklin scandal is gonna find some fricked up shit, not dismiss it.
he's saying that there actually is a child sex ring going on in season 3 but the main charector just never figures it out.
white men bad, colonizers bad, pollution bad, men bad, women good, injuns good
It's really quite simple
i agree with you that it is that simple, but thats also why the show isn't good.
typically speaking, the best stories are the best because the philosophical argument it is making about life is strong and is expressed well.
shut the frick up you stupid fricking homosexual israelite Black person shill
Women are strong and clever
>season 1 and 3 are about pizzagate
What?
Season 1 came out two years before "pizzagate" got any attention at all. You fricking moron.
Season 1 directly inspired pizzagate.
>TIME IS A FLAT CIRCLE
He said the thing. I clapped.
but who was the true detective?
The real true detective was the new tribal tattoos we made along the way.
I was. I detected that it was dogshit instantly.
maybe in some small way we're all the true detective
The cleaners since they found a super secret scientist base room, did their own murder and crime scene investigation on site than the professionals (and the scientist i guess also since they kept all the evidence that they killed the woman).
It's superficially similar to season 1 but it lacks any sort of authenticity or conviction the first season had. It felt like a cheap facsimile of someone who didn't know what they were talking about giving you a lecture on life.
The characters were cartoon characters and their motivations not even remotely fleshed out. That or they were not convincingly portrayed. I felt nothing when Navarro randomly walked out into the tundra because it was so random. She went from being normal to hearing voices to being suicidal in the span of two or three episodes.
It would have had more emotional weight if more context about her early life was shown visually but there was too little shown for me at least to form an emotional bond with her. And it was not for lack of runtime or screentime either, there was just too much time wasted.
And she was one of the better characters even.
Rest of my thoughts here.
>https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/196295585/#196305263
>https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/196295585/#196305761
Anyways just go rewatch Contact (1997) instead. It has Danvers, Rust Cohle, and Bezzerides' dad in it.
I can see your points even if I sorta liked Season 3, I felt the duo was quite likeable, and their separation and reunion was handled as good as the first season, while in this one it was like
>we are not going to join your team
>I am putting together a team
>You son of a b***h I am in
Maybe is nitpicking, I just did not believe in their relation, anyway you should try finishing it, I think the major flaws in S3 were
1) They only handled 1 case overall and is like they never did any real work with real results, just sort of circled around it for years
2) The ending deflates the climax with exposition (ayy much like this one what do you know)
3) They used S1 hooks as bait, even named and showed pictures of the duo, and maybe telling you this might make the reveal sting less.
I think the main motif is going to be about the natives, critics might even try to shape a narrative where you can't get it because you are not them.
What the frick was with the spreading ice where the severed tongue was
Such a clusterfrick
Reminder that S4 is higher rated than S1 on rotten tomatoes.
Jews are willing to alter data so science supports their agenda. Truth is meaningless to them only securing the outcome they want matters
you do NOT frick with the native grandma posse
tv is a loose c**thole
t.
Prior would have been a more interesting storyline than any of the women in this fricking season. How do you create so many unlikable characters?
BECAUSE FRICK YOU THAT'S WHY YOU FRICKING PIG
>he reminder that death is not the end
Imagine being a grown adult in the 21st century and requiring such a ridiculous cope just to make it through the day. It would be funny if it weren't so sad.
you either have never lost anyone, or you've never loved anyone
>you either have never lost anyone, or you've never loved anyone
My edge is my only companion
is there any doubt whatsoever anymore that they want you dead?
This season really beat me over the head with that fact, I don't think I've ever felt angrier at a television show. I thought for a moment there was going to be a redemptive aspect if the kid threw himself under the ice with his father but no, the morality this show tries to champion is top to bottom upside down anti-christ shit. They really do hate all that is good and just
This blows donkey dick, both conspiracies are too large to be realistic. This is another season of true detective that falls over in the final episode
>falls over in the final episode
you didnt watch the previous 5 then
They weren't perfect, the dialogue was particularly bad, but some the visuals good and the vibe was atleast kinda spooky
>the vibe was atleast kinda spooky
not for me, the horror elements fail completely to make me feel anything but laughter, and i am not trying to make myself look as a guy that wouldnt be scared, i cant watch horror movies for example
visuals we can somehow agree, but i dont care about them if the rest is shit
>Women are the cause of everything
Kweens...........
>time is a flat circle
>congregation of righteous women popping up one by one in the frame
>awful pseud dialog
the gringe was trough the roof this episode, worst of the whole series by far
of righteous women popping up one by one in the frame
I can picture some soiboi jerking it hard when they all line up to face the two cops
>YAAASSSSS SO FRICKING POWERFUL
>just like in my marvel moviesssss so powerful
>>time is a flat circle
that felt like the most meaninlest throw back ever, it has no relation to was it was being talk in that moment, the guy was speaking about the native spirit and how the natives were there before teh EVIL(white people) arrived
but at least some redditors clapped, thank you issa
keked, this is far better that what the bawd of issa did, you should be hired by hbo
I was apathetic towards the show up until
>IT'S A FLAT CIRCLE!!!
Like i get wanting to stuff the show with memberberries of the first seasons since this season really is just a bunch of morons trying to imitate something they don't understand, but the guy yelling that was just one "easter egg" too far. The season was objective shit.
HOLY SHIT HE SAID THE THING
BROS HE SAID IT
LIKE WOW I PEED MYSELF
Nah this story sucked dick. It had nothing good going for it. It just made everyone appreciate Seasons 2 and 3 even more. We all know Season 2 needed it. Because of Season 2 there's alot of people who didn't even bother with Season 3. But they will now since Season 4 is so poorly put together by comparison.
The horror elements weren't done too well either.
Just spooky screaming ghost in the corner.
They should have tried being a lot more subtle with it, scenes with an unnerving atmosphere but nothing ever shows up etc.
Or they could have gone the cosmic horror route and just shown the inky blank sea in the darkness.
Anyways everyone should play Until Dawn™ (coming soon to Steam), which unironically has a better story, or Polaris which is set in a research station.
I think True Detective s4 has a comfier setting than those games (Tsalal and the ice caves mainly) but the games have a better payoff because they don't get their plots sidetracked by drama.
>or Polaris
*Alpha Polaris
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/405780/Alpha_Polaris__A_Horror_Adventure_Game/
It's free so you literally don't have a reason not to.
Are you telling me Until Dawn was never released on PC?
i think they had some playstation deal, i dont think it was ever lauched in xbox either
Did they explain why the scientist had a hypnotic spasm and said ‘she’s awake’ when there was zero to no ghost or creature angle?
no, why would they?
its so fricking funny how they can justify to them selves not wrapping up loose ends by just saying "its spooky and mysterious" and hiding behind the magical realism. you got the impression that nick pizzalato had a strong idea of how they mysticism worked and it also had the cthulhu mythos to help it, this season its just a condiment like ketchup that they can use to try and add flavour to the cancer inducing kraft dinner that is the story. fricking mystery box writing, LOST has totally skull fricked writing for tv for fricking YEARS now. frick jj abrams.
not only did they not explain it they showed it again as navaro hallucinating it
time is a flat circle
>when there was zero to no ghost or creature angle?
you are incorrect, there was, native magic is real, thats how navarro speaks to fosters son and how she learned her native name
so the great spirit warned him about what was about to happen so that he could hide himself, because he didnt deserve to die because he didnt kill anna
>because he didnt kill anna
he literally killed her though
you are a fricking chud
i am going to torture you in the same way they did to him, i will force you to watch the season in a loop for ever
fricking hell i forgot about that utter cringe "torture" scene
time is a flat circle indeed
the other guys stabbed and beat her, sure, but he literally suffocated her when she wasn't actually dead. Sure you could say he was putting her out of her misery, but the fact is he killed her.
>the other guys stabbed and beat her
this scene made me laugh. Am I to believe that a group of highly educated men see one man shanking some chick and they all just have to jump in as if they're in a violent trance?
>men
there you go
yeah, i forgot, but i wasnt trying to prove anything, i was just joking
remember the delivery guy, he said that they were crazy, being naked and doing weird shit, and she destroyed something that could stop cancer, so i would kill her aswell
>He didn't kill the injun
>Shows him choking the life outta her with his undershirt
holy Black personino
Wrong question.
>zero to no ghost
the tsalal men were literally killed by a ghost
>BANG BANG BOOM
>A herd of angry roasties bursts through the door
>They start screeching and waving guns in the air
What would you do if you saw this bros?
Whatever they told me. Even if I were armed, I'm not winning a fight against a "herd".
why was the entrance to the cave hidden behind floor tiles like it was the fricking batcave if that was the main research they were doing over there?
how the frick did they even bring all of that equipment down there if the only way to access it was a small manhole that opens to a ladder?
everything about this season is so contrived and stupid
Wrong question.
>spirits name her SUKINONYAKOK
what did they mean by this????
It means ones who returns from the dark.
and then proceeds to walk off into the tundra anyway
Lol stfu shill. This season was fricking terrible and that last episode was unbelievably bad.
>noooo i'm innocent i didn't kill her
>cop1: let's just execute him in case he's lying
>cop2: sure why not go ahead
>this town was here long before the mine
do the writers of this show not understand what a mining town is?
the mine represents white people and the town represents the indians
during the protests they said the same thing "we were here before"
but that doesn't make any sense
they meant a few igloos full of indians eating raw whale meat and fricking their children
I get this really weird vibe from this show like the story was changed half way through somehow. Which doesn't make sense because the whole story was written beforehand.
The mystery is the biggest thing here. I will admit it had me hooked in the first two episodes. What COULD have scared them enough to take their clothes off and go wild clawing at themselves in the snow? Why were the clothes folded? It had some great potential and I was interested to see how it played out. And I have to say this has to be the least interesting possible way to answer the mystery
>what would scare them enough to make them go onto the ice?
A gun
>why were the clothes folded
Cleaning ladies???
>why were they self inflicting injuries and bleeding from the ears?
It just happens bro
Like holy shit man. Why build up the mystery as if there's an interesting answer to it, when the answer is just "someone with a gun put them out there?" I thought the folded clothes was going to be some MO from a serial killer perhaps. Maybe he's crazy, ritualistic, and they were sacrifices. Who knows, anything but this.
>bleeding from the ears?
the lound music the cleaning ladies were playing during the raid? doesnt look possible
navarro had the same thing when she was staring at the Christmas tree, so i guess that its the great spirit
>and they were sacrifices
they kinda of were, the ladies were saying that they left them in the ice so that the great spirit would decide what to do with them
I mean the solution being grounded and logical is good. Anything else would have been an asspull. It's the way they bait the solution and reveal it in an unsatisfying way I have a problem with.
This is like a worse version of Murder on the Orient Express.
Also it's a bait and switch, because they bait you with a supernatural mystery only for most of the show being about family drama that has nothing really to do with the plot.
But yea next time someone complains about Tunbaq and the monster element of The Terror s1 I'll just point them to TD s4 as a counterpoint.
>What COULD have scared them enough to take their clothes off and go wild clawing at themselves in the snow? Why were the clothes folded?
Two great questions. Neither are answered. Why did the cleaning ladies fold the clothes? Can they just not help it? They just see a pile of laundry and the have a deep instinctive need to fold it? They weren't too shook up when the cops got to them, but I gotta imagine they weren't literally planning on getting caught by two lady cops who happen to be sympathetic to their cause for veganal reasons.
If they truly didn't care they could have just shot them in the facility and went home. Why the frick would they decide to fold the clothes? It makes no sense. And what is the point of asking why their eyes were torn up and their ear drums busted if you're just going to say "well, that happens sometimes when people freeze to death". Obviously homicide detectives in the goddamn Alaskan tundra are going to know what frozen bodies look like. Even the most podunk towns have police academies. Yeah, it's possible that might happen in real life, but this is not real life. You don't just put shit in a script for no reason and expect it to not piss people off.
i think the implication was meant to be if they found their way back to the clothes (the heckin spirit decided they could live) then they can get dressed again without a big old fuss over who's clothes are who's!
There is an interview where the guy who plays Pryor's dad in a very professional way says that the actors had to "fix" a scene from the script. It makes me think a lot did change, but not for the worse.
2 and 3 are decent stories even if you end up e-girlng at the awful Hispanic shootout choreography in 2 or Uncle Ruckus explaining 90% of the mystery in 3.
This somehow ended as the most woke piece of garbage ive seen in quite some time.
It was a diverse feminist anti-white man hitpiece dressed up as a true detective season.
it was ahot. Fricking bullshit supernatural feminist tripe with enough plot holes to sink a Russian warship.
Lazy on-the-nose metaphysical tropes abound that reek of being dumbed down for an audience that thinks it’s much smarter than it really is.
Frick this shit.
>hurr durrr imma shitty cgi polar bear.,,, IN YER MIIIIIIIND
>You want supernatural? You want paranormal?
>-Yes please!
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>Card Crusher
Damn, that takes me back
The finale was shockingly bad. Even if the season was terrible, the finale went all out. Near unwatchable trash. Jodie Foster did her best. 1/10 thanks to her
I genuinely couldn't believe what I was seeing. People on the Internet called the ending. Was it leaked somewhere?
>Was it leaked somewhere?
Foster leaked it herself in a podcast.
Parts of the plot have been leaked one or two weeks ago as well. Journos with press releases shitting on the season and such
How did all those ugly as frick women get so many shotguns? Also were they screaming or something? Or was that part of the soundtrack?
The strong and proud feminist roar that terrifies the white males so much that they freeze instantly with horrified expressions on their faces.
Even Plebbit is tearing it to shreds. It's glorious, bros.
>that ending monologue
Was that Navarro's ghost hanging out with Danvers or was it actually her?
wrong question
OK. Is Jodie into young studs?
You need to learn when to stop asking questions!
Where even was that? Didn't look like her house amd it was overlooking the sea/a lake.
She bought herself a nice house at a lake with Hank's money. Issa explained it on Instagram
>"Part 6" received mostly positive reviews from critics. Christina Izzo of The A.V. Club gave the episode an "A–" grade and wrote, "We won't deny, we doubted showrunner Issa López leading into this last episode, given all of the stray storylines and perplexing theories that still needed tying up. However, with the final edition of her Night Country saga, López has honored her vision while still making this chapter feel very much a part of the greater True Detective universe."
>Alan Sepinwall of Rolling Stone wrote, "There will almost certainly be another story, whether López tells it, or Pizzolatto returns, or someone new ends up in charge. Whoever it is, and whenever it comes, a new standard has been set for how strongly a True Detective case can be closed."[8] Ben Travers of IndieWire gave the episode a "B+" grade and wrote, "After five years off the air and with a new creative team in place, True Detective Season 4 set out to continue the franchise while reimagining what it could be. That's a lot to take on, but like the finale itself, Night Country pulled it off. Bring on Season 5."
Bros...are we in the wrong side of history?
>some randos who get paid to write positive reviews for garbage shows wrote a positive review for a garbage show
>a new standard has been set for how strongly a True Detective case can be closed
OP you're a homosexual
there is still time to apologise Cinemaphile.
S2>S1>S3>>>>>>>S4
But I agree with you
Capsere knew
Nah, everything is a fricking mess after s1.
Just because this one is shane black's The Predator-tier garbage, doesn't make the rest not suck ass. The only credit I give 2 and 3 is that they at least tried.
frick off litterallyrust, s2 is better than s1
Maybe in your alternate schizo universe
When Clark said they were researching some ancient lifeform shit I was expecting it was the prion rumor. Fight with the girl released the shit, affected the dudes' brains, then they go out to the ice.
>I liked a few elements
Stopped reading right here. Frick you.
Bros, where can I learn to be a native janitor granny marine?
They can recon, plan an op, hide in plain sight, execute 8 VIPs in a remote station and then make it look like an accident, leaving no trace despite driving around in trucks in a small town where everyone knows everyone else.
They do it so well, a whole state search party doesnt find a single clue, and 2 budding true detectives only figure them out on dumb luck.
Guess I don't have to bother now.
God, I hated this b***h so much in the final episode when she got in Prior's truck and made this exact face. And then she... magically forgives him? wtf?
we have always been at war with eastasia and Night Country is better than the first season.
These critics are fricking plebeans holy shit. At least the audience gets it, 88% vs 63$.
>These critics are fricking plebeans holy shit
TD S1 wasn't 10/10 television. It was no one's favorite show.
It has only risen to prominence because the subsequent seasons (and pretty much 100% of other TV shows of the same genre) have failed to top it, which doesn't speak to how genius it is, but how low the bar has been set.
Goes without saying that Night Country reviews are flowery for virtue-signalling reasons.
But ultimately, I pity you people who give a single frick about some made up number on a shitty aggregator website.
s1 was huge as it was airing, you're full of shit
My points stand.
Did you get a Rust tattoo?
Did you go to conventions to meet Pizza?
Did you even buy a bluray to show your appreciation?
Did you tell all your friends to watch S1?
It was neat and enjoyable. I remember the threads. Everything I said is still true, and to reiterate - it wasn't anyone's favorite show.
>what i said was wrong
>but everything i said is still true
>But ultimately, I pity you people who give a single frick about some made up number on a shitty aggregator website.
I really don't, I'm just amazed. Clown world yada yada.
You say you don't, but you're "amazed" and it contributes to your view of the world as a clown world.
You're not being honest with yourself.
Not a single thing I said is wrong nor did I retract anything I said. If this is really the best response you can muster, you should really stick to posting basedjaks and quoting my post.
Everything you said was wrong and you admitted to it.
HBO is not going to be happy with your performance here today.
$.05 has been retracted from your account.
>You say you don't, but you're "amazed" and it contributes to your view of the world as a clown world.
>You're not being honest with yourself.
What an autist. I don't even browse RT.
You're almost at a whole us dollar, keep it up!
>It has only risen to prominence because the subsequent seasons
It rose to prominence on it's own merit alone, it was beloved on release
lel, the "audience" is whatever chinese bot farm your producer pays
TD S1 is kino and it deserves that audience rating and then some, I don't give a frick what anyone says.
>Uhm...there is just no way a scientist kills someone and his 7 colleagues just join him, no questions asked, and manage to keep the secret for 10 years without any incidents..
>Eh..did I mention they were white males?
>By Manitou! It all makes sense now! they really did it!!
there was a latinx and a chinese
this, it's no longer about race, it's men in general
>tfw no 1980s jodie foster gf
Rough.
i need jodies juice
Indeed
Hot fricking damn.
foster sucked in this almost as much as the black b***h, zero range
That's my wife you're talking about, bud
Where are these photos from? Did she pose for Playboy back in the day?
I hate her wrinkly old granny mouth I hate looking at it when she talks.
I hate males so much it's unreal
The shills are getting really desperate today. Congrats on one of the worst episodes in television history.
S1 is still the undisputed King of True Detective.
shitty bait. Please leave /tv forever
oooooo sheiiiiiiiiiiiit, twas DA CLEANING LADYZ
OP here, lots of laughs in this thread, you guys are great. You really can't hype up the paranormal arc and then, BIG REVEAL: cleaning ladys But we've already established that it was probably the studio that changed the original story.
The cleaning ladies being the murderers isn't a problem.
Logically it's pretty genius since there's a reaosn for their dna to be all over the place AND they can clean shit up.
The problems with the script were other things, mainly how the mystery was investigated and solved, if at all.
yeah honestly if it was handled better I wouldn't have a problem with them being the murderers. It just was so sloppy and poorly presented, cutting from looking at a hand print to talking with them was a massively jarring leap in logic. At first I was looking to see if the ginger lady was missing a finger or something that would make it easy to identify her prints visually but no?
Not to mention how stupid the manhole in the lab is both spatially and logically. Even being charitable and saying "the great spirit actually killed them" to explain the state of the bodies there would be a lot of physical evidence of a dozen people with guns storming the facility and driving a giant truck out. Also a shell casing from when the one shot in the air.
Basically I'm just mad we didn't get more spoopy kino in the ice caves, it lasted all of two minutes before they travelled several miles to be directly under the research facility. I was so excited for cool frozen whale bones and ancient native totems but all we got was a two second shot of a magical liopleurodon
all this time i thought lopez was like a 30 year old because the media kept treating her like some emerging new star. but apparently she's almost 60? now that wine aunt character in the show makes total sense, it's a self-insert
Ye.
lmao, i went to wikipedia to search for her age, and she edit it and deleted her age from tehre, you cant find her fricking year of birth
first time that i see a wikipedia page with the fricking year of bitrh
so thats why she is so salty at this guy saying that she is 60, i was assuming that it was the typical female behaviour, but not she seems to have a huge complex about her age
shes got us in her night country now
I tried watching episode 1, figured perpetual night would fit neo noir as a glove and it had Jodie Foster. Every character was unlikable, had uninteresting personal conflicts and relationships, and i didn´t care if they all died. I just could not care for it.
What a miserable fricking season I did not enjoy myself the entire ride. I'm convinced the White Lotus is the final egg left in HBO's basket it's fricking dead, cancel your max cancel any subscription to HBO this is really the end of paid television
it was the worst piece of shit so far. it made s3 look good and that is saying something
s2>s1 btw
>how could a naked man survive survive being frozen for several hours?
wrong question
why would a power outage cause a cell phone to glitch out?
wrong question
>how was the coast guard able to find the body of Navarro’s sister in the arctic ocean only hours after she disappeared?
wrong question
>how did Annie K figure out the lab was ordering the mine to make more pollution to make permafrost melt easier to make extracting microorganisms easier?
wrong question
>does the mine have a “make more pollution” button?
WRONG QUESTION
>how were a bunch of cleaning ladies able to take a look at a core sample drill bit, ascertain that was the weapon used to kill Annie K, in that exact spot, and that all of the scientists were responsible?
WRONG. QUESTION.
>why did the cleaning ladies leave one guy alive and just assume he wouldn’t talk to the police?
WRONG. QUESTION.
>why would Prior not hesitate to kill his father, who just admitted he did not kill Annie K (but helped cover it up) to protect Danvers who he recently figured out had likely murdered someone?
WRONG QUESTION!
>how was Danvers able to survive plunging into the ocean only by warming up in a garage that she was freezing in an hour earlier?
WRONG QUESTION!
>why don’t they always have ice breath, even when they’re clearly somewhere that’s very cold?
WRONG QUESTION!
>a dozen deaths (including a cop), no arrests, and a person of interest missing… why was Danvers allowed to keep her job?
WRONG QUESTION!
>the only thing Navarro had to do to learn her native name was take a nap?
now you’re asking the right question
The burns on the victims wasn't explained either. At this point I think the ghosts burned them, unironically, that's what the story leads you to think.
Why did all the Caribou kill themselves?
pay more attention next time speedwatcher
>>why would Prior not hesitate to kill his father, who just admitted he did not kill Annie K (but helped cover it up) to protect Danvers who he recently figured out had likely murdered someone?
this hole point is about the sins of the father, they are kinda saying that not all white males are bad, but they have to cut all ties with their parents(the ones who built the (racist) society). his father always was saying the thing about how the important thing is blood(familiar/tribal/national ties), but him killing his father shows that it doesnt need to be this way
so basicly they are trying to say white people, "hey stop looking for your best self interest as a group, we wont kill you if you surrender"
The show is women female power fantasy. None of the male characters are portrayed in any way to be the equals of or superior to any female characters. The scientists were willing to ruin the environment so it was easier to dig in the ice, then murder the woman to keep the secret which all of them joined in, then complete cowards when faced with the natives with guns. The guy at the plant got his ass kicked by the blonde lady AND Navarro. Jodie fosters ex husband was abusive to their son, wanted a mail order bride to display his low sexual market value and was paid off to cover up a murder. Dr Who himself was completely under the sway of Jodie Fosters vegana, and knew she was involved with the cover up of a murder but didn’t say anything until she got too close to solving the murder and then he used the info to threaten / blackmail her. Leon Kennedy spends the entire series getting ordered around by Jodie Foster who is his mom and crapped on by his baby momma. Then he murders his dad because the writers needed a way unfrick the situation they just wrote. Navarros boyfriend is her sexual and emotional tampon, and is never once repaid in kind for his unwavering and unwarranted support of Navarro. Even the red herring evil corporate mine worker is a woman and not a man because representation matters or something. And to top it all off, Rust Cohes fricking mother helps dispose of two dead bodies because her and Navarro smoked weed once. This is the biggest piece of man hating feminazi propaganda I have ever seen.
that whole damn town really was haunted
Haunted by danvers vegana
Actually lmaod at this shite episode. What a dumb load of fricking dog shit. Holy frick
twink zoomer matt damon in underwear literally save this episode form being a complete write-off
Can you be gay somewhere else, homosexual ?
nah
>teasing super natural entities or ATLEAST a serial killer
>in the end, THE FRICKING CLEANING LADIES DID IT
YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP
HOLY SHIT, IM MAD
delete this
its a deep story on the invisibility of the oppressed minority working class folk, voices of the unheard
you normies thought it was just 'white men = bad'
it transcends mere race and gender
I unironically hate you ironic shitposting homosexuals
hoes mad, your brain is too low iq to understand true depth
All they had to do was leak the proofs they found on the internet. Or to the press. Both methods would have prevented a shutting of the case by the mine or Dr Who.
But they decided to... continue to let babies die from pollution and only take revenge on Annie K's killers?
Our fricking heroines ladies and gentlemen!
them having internet would ruin their humble aesthetic, they're simple working folk
just ignore the fact that she had an iPhone to take all that evidence down
But what about the dead babies? No, really, they decided that killing some murderers and getting away with it was worth letting their children continue to die?
Who the frick wrote that?
And Navarro, the main character, kills herself and it's a good and spiritual thing? And she becomes fricking Casper to Danvers?
If I was an Inuit I would be so angry right now. Suicide is a big problem in native communities. Making it look like a good thing, a DESIRABLE thing, is just fricking wrong. And it shows Lopez has no idea of what native life is like at all.
remember that all those babies had to die so someone could thaw the ice
But the mine didn't know that and was manipulated into polluting more and the scientists faked the data so they genuinely think they aren't responsible. They would not know to stop because they have "proof" that the pollution isn't the cause of Ennis problems.
Of course, that being said, why did they help when Annie K was killed? And what did the scientists told them was the cause for them killing her?
That show is so badly written.
cope and seethe
So let me get this straight:
- Mine pollutes the water because scientists want to dig a life changing microorganism, and the only way to thaw the ice is through dumping pollutants. So the multibillion company that finances the scientists runs the mine operation so it could pollute the environment to thaw the ice. Seemingly none of the scientist heard about the heat
- Local brave trailer BLM activist was the true detective and discovered the paper trail for this evil enterprise, and decided to run into a secure facility and destroy the evidence, getting killed
- Scientists were careless so they hid the secret entrance below a tile in the floor instead behind the secure lock (like they had on freezers). This enabled the cleaning ladies to get the whiff of it
- Cleaning ladies took up guns and put the scientists in the truck, drove them in the middle of nowhere and stripped them naked, told them to walk away and carefully folded their clothes
- Scientists at some distance away reacted by hurdling together, screaming and tearing their eyes out, then they melted into the ice and died, except for one guy who survived several days in the frost, only to reawake when his hand was broken off by a negligent cop
- This was all revealed by two female true detectives that killed two of their suspects, so they understood the need for the revenge and they let the cleaning ladies go
you sir. are a true detective.
btw what was the point of the one eye icebear?
saved for posterity
I hope the next TD is written by AI. There's no way it could be worse than a woman.
Petition to bring back Pizzaman but not only that, take the title "True Detective" off of S4 on Max and just let it retroactively be called Night Country.
I still don't have a clue how the fricking one eyed bear fits in, that has to be 90% of the CGI budget
Jodie fosters dead son had a stuffed animal of a one eyed polar bear. It’s supposed to show Navarro getting attuned to the spirit world
It was a leftover CGI asset from Game of Thrones. They spent a stupid amount of money on it and now HBO is going to copypaste it into every show.
>WE MUST HAVE MORE POLLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTION! WE CAN THINK OF NO OTHER WAY TO MELT ICE!
The scientist that dumps pollutants to melt the ice where he needs to take the sample of a microorganism, exists only in female brain. The writer probably didn't finish the highschool
The show did explain most things, but none of it was properly setup. There was like 90% unrelated filler in the previous 5 episodes.
Oh, and I joked that the super superficial take on native was borderline racist, but having Navarro kill herself and it being framed as a bad thing when suicide is such a huge problem with native women felt like a fricking slap in the face and I'm not a native or woke at all. Even Cinemaphile would have thought a little before saying something like that. We are not monsters.
Is Issa such a moron or is she some racist piece of shit trolling the natives?
*as a GOOD thing*
See, it boggles the mind so much that I couldn't even write it out.
I don't think it's racist to say women shouldn't write television.
I don't think it's anti-semitic to say black people are better at basketball than chinese people
I don't think it's ableist to say that the harmonica is a musical instrument often played by Bob Dylan
I don't think it's sexist to say that mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell
I cringed hard when the guy said time was a flat circle, and all of the spirals. HBO is doomed
it's not a loop, it's a spiral
mr scratch pls
what did true detective mean by this ?????
show me the champion of liiiiiight
You guys are all fricking stupid. It was a complete inversion of season 1, which means it is just as good if not better.
>Season 1 took place in the south where it is hot and stinky and bright. Season 4 took place in the north where it is cold and icy and dark.
>Season 1 featured an evil white man's deity that demanded child sacrifice. Season 4 featured an awesome brown person deity that got angry when you killed her children
>Season 1 was about two detectives who were good at their job. Season 4 was about two uniformed lady cops who were bad at everything
Why did a top secret Cthulhu station have a top secret hatch?
a hatch that two True Detective™s could not find while investigating the crime scene but a cleaning lady found one day casually while mopping
They would find it if they called forensics team in first season when 7 men disappeared.
But they would need to introduce smart men who are good at their jobs and Issa said "not on my watch!"
You forgot that Danvers was able to open the panel to shut off the song she hates, but then couldn't find this hidden floor panel OR the fricking exposed button on the wall next to it.
that reminds me, why the frick was ferris bueller stuck on a loop in that part of the song both at the beginning and on the finale?
Same reason as the one-eye motif and the rolling orange: it's just a motif, don't think about it.
Why was the hatch a secret when it was publicly known that the station was there to drill for microbe samples?
What, so they could conveniently investigate it on episode one and solve the case right then? You crazy
I wasnt Season 5 about guys who wrote these reviews and they will investigate why Issa López is still single in her 50's
no. not watching your shit show.
In retrospect, I probably shouldn't have wasted my time on it. But hey at least we can laugh about it now.
t. OP
Remember these? Yeah...
Memory is a double edged sword, which is why I carry a gun
Season two would be good if it were just these two investigating the murder and mob.
K I N O
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k.i.n.o.
>shill thread is main thread
very fitting
thanks doc
This guy on the payroll is trying his best. Desperately trying to claim it's better than the first season.
https://slate.com/culture/2024/02/true-detective-season-4-night-country-finale-review.html
>Season 1 teased supernatural horror fans before ultimately revealing that the otherworldly elements were merely trappings. Brilliant as the initial arc was, it pulled some punches during the latter stages, seeming to lack the courage of its convictions; an existential nightmare undercut with the unmasking of a Scooby-Doo villain and a dose of unearned optimism. By contrast, Night Country grows stronger, weirder, with each episode. The twisting narrative and stellar acting performances build to a crescendo, fulfilling an initial audacious promise that there is more beneath heaven than dreamt of in our philosophy. Not only is the world stranger than we imagine, we passengers on this odyssey will simply have to live with that revelation.
I mean, he's not wrong about that first part
This unironically reads like someone who got mad at season 1 for being about a pedo ring.
>Time is a flat circle!
This finale is managing to be more awful than I expected (and yes, I read the review that said there would be an embarrassing callback line).
Sooooooo, they got rid of the body but left the murder weapon sitting there for a couple of years?
And how did a cleaning lady open the hatch witthout a key card?
you're not asking the right question
they needed the drill to continue witn their research
and they were assuming that they wouldnt need a lock mechanism in the hatch because they believed that it wouldnt be found, stupid i know, but it isnt the biggest plot hole here, so it doesnt bother me that much
The guy used a key card for the floor to pop open and expose the hatch.
no, he used the card for the glass room
why did the butch girl just kys at the end?
she avenged annie and found out her true name, her mission was done
so fricking quit or transfer or something what the frick?
it's spiritual injun shit, anon, not something a white boi would understand
so indians are magic? that is so FRICKING racist
It's not though. There no actual real native lore in the show except some tats and the fact birthhouses exist. Issa didn't even bother to google the people she pretends to talk for.
you want me to believe a middle-class hollywood content creator wouldn't bother to do actual research and merely pay lip service to the themes she says are important to her show?
It's deliberately ambiguous.
>local body disposal hag
What's really weird they didnt have cameras or anykind of security to the basement.
it's even weirder they didn't have walls so all the equipment was buried in the ice, that's science for you
Wrong question
why the frick was the underground lab/drilling room hidden?
its not like the microorganism research was top secret or something, even the random highschool science teacher knew about it
Just watched it. Holy shit it's so cheesy, I have no idea wtf are you discussing here for over 300 posts no less.
>Hank covering up murder is LE BAD!
>Connolly covering up murder is LE BAD!
>Danvers covering up murder is LE BRAVE AND STUNNING!
so uh is navarro a ghost now or something O_o
Wait a minute, wouldn't the dozen women storming Tsalal have left hundreds of footprints? If the cleaning ladies cleaned afterwards, then they did a shit job because they left finger prints which is how they were caught.
Guys
hey guys
guys,
time is a flat circle and we are all stuck in it
guys?
Truer Detectives (TDs5)
Marty and Rust decide to go out on one last case. They show up to the ice caves in Alaska and fight the cleaning ladies one at a time, like in Kill Bill. There is a final battle where Marty dies to the rifle wielding 70 year old Native acrobat, but not before tricking her, quite cleverly, into stripping down nude and sealing her fate as well. Rust is left alone to fight the She of the Night Country. An epic psychic battle of flat circles and frostbite ensues. Just when you think Rust's flat circles have run out and that She has won, Rust's dad makes another appearance.
The ghost saunters in with a giant joint hanging from his lips saying "alright, alright, alright." An ancient Native People's saying that is older than time itself. She is immediately disarmed and goes to embrace her former lover - forgiving him for cheating on her with Rust's mom all those years ago.
It is said that those who wander in to Night Country today no longer succumb to the cold, but often return days later smelling faintly of marijuana and Dolce & Gabanna The One.
KINO
it's about family, and that's what's so powerful about it
>time is a flat circle
>the white man is about to cure cancer
>ruined by a bunch of women
Cure it with more mouse bites... I mean more pollution?
I need medicine drug for my headhache