Caliburn was pretty decent. it just deserved more build ups and not appearing out of nowhere. But the Freedom was also inserted out of Fukuda's ass, so by now the fanbase is used to it
Freedom didn't have "and then they all dissolved for no reason" powers that still are not explained.
only the series. Caliburn was alright as an MS, probably the only one I even like design-wise in the show besides the Lfrith. otherwise everything else is a wet fart
Caliburn was pretty decent. it just deserved more build ups and not appearing out of nowhere. But the Freedom was also inserted out of Fukuda's ass, so by now the fanbase is used to it
Well, to be fair, it was used for enabling the MS to fly in Quiet Zero's field of control by switching to a non-Permet board of controls, as Rouji here explained in episode 22.
That animation isn't well done. It's choppy and has fricking grease smeared across the images. It looks like someone turned on PS4 chromatic aberration. Build Fighters had similar sequences and they were better done there a decade ago.
G-Witch some how also produced one of the worst Itano circuses since 2009.
I’ll never understand why they made the helmets that way if they wanted to show the characters faces like that. There’s no reason for it to disappear, a good enough effect would have come through and looked even cooler but it looks tacky disappearing like that.
I know but it lookd stupid in the OP. Let the pilots wear their helmets in the OP, especially since Suletta is more often out of her suit entirely than in it at all.
You're webm is pretty much the sole fight I remember of IBO (awesome thought)
G-witch aired just yesterday so it's hard to judge but Suletta vs grassley, guel desesperate fight against his dad and third fight vs Suletta were memorable tier.
Considering how few people talk about the fights chances are only the most hardcore G-Witch fans will remember any fights that happened. Meanwhile people still talk about Stark Jegan versus Kshat and that only involved one main character.
I've been saying since G-Witch S2 was airing that the fights in IBO in spite of the shitty animation ran circles around the ones in WFM. I can only the remember Guel's fight scenes but even those were just passable and were hard-carried by the novelty of tv 2D mecha animation in modern anime. The early fights in IBO where Tekkadan had to scrape to survive like the duel against Crank and the fight against the Turbans where Mikazuki shown off his pilot skills in a then mediocre mobile suit were way more thrilling than Aerial sandbags the fight and then pulls out clutch hax move at the last second.
several issues >Bits are the big thing in AD stella but are pretty misused apart from Sword funnels and Pharact's genuinely interesting EMP bits (which were only used twice). Aerials funnels literally do everything the plot demands they can. >Over the course of the series every fight just devolves into one side going "I raise my permet score and win". Nothing clever is really done with the EW aspect of permet since its always just completely overiding whatever Aerial wants >The duel format hurts stakes even more than some realise. Obviously characters can't die straight away, but the fact that Aerial's ownership is on the line means Suletta will never even come close to losing until the entire cast plots against her in season 2. No lethality means there's no risk of some shuttle or important structure getting hit by collateral damage until the school shootings start. >A bunch of scenes are just 1:1 "homages" of previous scenes without any thought put into them, like "what if G-Bit mobile suits but WFM" or "what if Unicorn but WFM" >Standard grunt moronation combined with none of the mobile suit firms actually bothering to put any effort in developing their weapons except for Jeturk (aren't these supposed to be competitive cutthroats?)
>Aerials funnels literally do everything the plot demands they can.
Shoot beams and shield, just like the ones in the prologue. They are later upgraded to make a field for the tech hijacking.
>Shoot beams >Shield >Thrusters >Overide >nonvisually detect people on foot without >make its rifle so powerful that it can melt through everything even when "it's not meant for combat"
>Shoot beams >Shield >Thrusters >make its rifle so powerful that it can melt through everything even when "it's not meant for combat"
All things the Lfrith did. >Overide >nonvisually detect people on foot without
All things that were after it was upgraded.
>A bunch of scenes are just 1:1 "homages" of previous scenes without any thought put into them, like "what if G-Bit mobile suits but WFM" or "what if Unicorn but WFM"
This is an issue plaguing Gundam as a franchise.
There's a level of losing the forest for the trees when people complain about homages in a series that has as many char clones as Gundam does, at this point the familiarity is what has kept the series going for this long, even attempts to reinvent the franchise usually don't stray too far from the basics
you've had decades to get used to the fact there's probably going to be an autistic protagonist who gets into a special white mobile suit with prototype autism powers and an autistic masked person of high status in their own suit they've autistically insisted on painting red, battles are waged with some kind of social autism power, and that there's going to be enemy suits with one eye and a contrasting design language, but not so odd as to confuse the autistic audience, who needs to buy the autism boxes
Reusing entire storyboards from previous Gundam entries almost 1:1 is a "homage" huh?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Gundam has reused entire plot arcs and characters before. How is this any worse?
9 months ago
Anonymous
And we shit on it when OO did it, and when Unicorn did it.
Yet somehow G-Witch went even lower and no only reused the plots and characters, but even the storyboards.
9 months ago
Anonymous
When Zeta or X copied scenes from 0079 it actually served a narrative purpose
Also no other gundam show to date had the complete shamelessness to literally call their Four Murasame clone "Number Four"
9 months ago
Anonymous
both were literally the 4th test subjects in line at their laboratory and were intentionally stripped of their prior identities
next you'll fricking complain model numbers are kinda sequential
9 months ago
Anonymous
No I won't, instead I'll say that the point went over your head. The reason in the plot isn't what I'm talking about. I'm talking about how the writers decided to make the most on the nose Cinderella Four rehash since Stella and Anew and also decided to even use the same name as some attempt to look clever in hopes that the viewer will clap when they see the reference.
Zechs Marquise is a pretty transparent Char ripoff but at the very least wings writers had the good graces to not name him "Blar Raznable"
9 months ago
Anonymous
And the point I'm trying to make but is apparently not getting through to you is that it's fricking normal to refer to things lacking proper names as #1, #2, etc.
>decided to even use the same name
Except it's not? This is like complaining that Quatre has the same name as Four Murasame. Four's fricking name is literally spelled "Four" or フォウ and pronounced as the English word even in Japanese. The Elan clone is referred to as 4号, pronounced as "yon go" and is the literal term "#4", not an actual fricking proper name.
9 months ago
Anonymous
They still pretty much were using that as a way to make the viewers fill in the blank rather than telling a story to get you to that point. And they didn't even go much further with it. They went >"you know that character you like? he's a boy version of that! give us your money and praise now"
It's the fact that they made him the 4th at all. Why is he the 4th when he could have had his own number? He could have been his own thing but instead they bank on the audience just liking the character because he's a heavy handed reference.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>They still pretty much were using that as a way to make the viewers fill in the blank rather than telling a story to get you to that point.
If they didn't also dump his exposition and background in the episode or two that he dies in, then sure.
>He could have been his own thing but instead they bank on the audience just liking the character because he's a heavy handed reference.
And then they introduced subject #5 who did have a different personality, greater motivation, and ends up becoming more than just a lab experiment. This ends up being better than Rosamia which is a literal retread of Four.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>It's the fact that they made him the 4th at all. Why is he the 4th when he could have had his own number?
The number 4 in japanese culture is like 13 in the west. The reason doomed characters keep getting stuck with the name is because its the number of death dumbass. And if you want to say that's too on the nose, deal with it. Gundam is ultimately a kid's show.
9 months ago
Anonymous
No shit dumbass but its incredibly uninspired when the series already was that on the nose once. But this ultimately is G-witch, of course they'd go the simplest route to get both weebs into shallow symbolism and old fans who will conenct the characters
9 months ago
Anonymous
>No shit dumbass but its incredibly uninspired when the series already was that on the nose once.
Anon... > And if you want to say that's too on the nose, deal with it. Gundam is ultimately a kid's show.
Stop b***hing about a kid's show lacking subtlety. Its pretty pathetic.
Wow I remember when Quatre died
>Wow I remember when Quatre died
Nah, just killed untold numbers of people when he destroyed that space colony.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Being a kids show doesn't justify shit decisions, Anon. Plenty of kids shows have things that arent so on the nose and they're better for it. Plus, Gundam isn't just for kids, it's made with both audiences in mind so it's not a good excuse.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It isn't a shit decision, its just a well used trope and lacking in subtlety.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Same thing said in a different way. The trope isn't bad it was just used in a shit way
>The duel format hurts stakes even more than some realise. Obviously characters can't die straight away, but the fact that Aerial's ownership is on the line means Suletta will never even come close to losing until the entire cast plots against her in season 2. No lethality means there's no risk of some shuttle or important structure getting hit by collateral damage until the school shootings start.
G-Witch's fights weren't that great for the most part but you don't have to throw every single sports anime (G Gundam included) under the bus
If your only standard for good fight is the stakes then you're an idiot. Plenty of terrible fights had high stakes and plenty of great fights had low stakes. The best kung fu fight of all time was in a low stakes comedy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlwh8x7bygk
9 months ago
Anonymous
>thinks this flailing mess of a fight is "the best kung fu fight of all time"
9 months ago
Anonymous
Ok Anon, post your's. Lets see how cultured you are.
/m/ doesn't hate AGE. The /m/ hating AGE comes from that fake meme pic revealing it would be about kids controlling Gundam with their cellphones or some shit. Most of /m/ just don't care about it and that's it.
You want to know what a hated series is? Everyone is happy about SEED returning now, but you had to be here when Destiny's clusterfrick script and protagonist sidelining was happening.
That's factually incorrect. /m/ was created before Destiny even came out. And in point of fact, it was created because after Destiny was announced as an upcoming project Cinemaphile got flooded with SEED threads. /m/ exists because Cinemaphile wanted Destiny to GTFO.
Anon, stop making shit up because your NA brain can't fathom that JP is gearing up for the SEED Movie. Just because MURRICA doesn't fawn over it, doesn't mean it is being ignored.
What hurts the Calibarn is the lore. If it was a machine SAL worked on for private testing outside of public eye, it might’ve been understandable. After all, the freedom was presumably built using data from possibly four other Gundams, so it kinda makes sense.
But tying it into the Vanadis institute opens up too many questions the show briefly answers feels tacked on, out of nowhere. At least with the freedom enough time has passed to warrant some prototype being built.
One you could logically assume, the other you’re confused on and won’t receive answers on ever. I honestly wish we got a flashback episode detailing events before and after Vanadis, not just small flashbacks in places.
>copy all this shit from Zeta, Unicorn, and NT >steal shit from Gundam X on top of that >don't copy the part where the Federation, the Titans, and Anaheim were messing around with secret shit >don't even copy the shit from Gundam Wing where the Doctors made the plans but were like frick that it's too dangerous >don't even copy the shit about some weirdos making Double X by smashing two Xs together >Calibarn was just some super secret monster from 20 years ago that nobody mentioned ever and shows up again in perfect working order because space CIA didn't just destroy it
G-Witch was all answers without questions and those answers just caused questions.
They really should've just made G-Witch into season 5 of the Build franchise. That shit already has kids in school fighting duels with special custom products. Could've made Maria-sama wa Gundam Pride: Build no Hana or some shit.
NUNE basically tried to build their own Gundam X, were shit at it, but had Jamil's wrecked Gundam X from the war. They smashed them together to make Double X.
It's really just Jamil's Gundam X but with two guns and more radiators to deal with the heat.
Rewatched X few months ago, both the DX and Jamil's X are shown in an island, connected together by wires since the data of the latter is used/being transferred to the former for the TSC.
The wing equivalent would be >Zechs uses Epyon and for 90% of the show but gets it destroyed >But then suddenly Tallgeese appears fully prebuilt and it was just sitting there with a full battery the whole time in some random hanger so Zechs can pilot something lol
You know for a show all about people building gundams and set in a thinly disguised MS R&D centre the show is really shit at showing mobile suits be developed
I love them pulling a character's old mech out after the upgrade MS gets trashed.
Calibarn is sorta different in that plotwise it's effectively a new mech. Maybe I wasn't paying enough attention, but a mention during the prologue or earlier episodes would've been nice.
>but a mention during the prologue or earlier episodes would've been nice.
It was the similar permet code mentioned in ep 2 and the reason for the gundam's pilot killing reputation in the prologue.
I thought any MS with permet link (aka Gund-arm and then Gundam) was already considered to have a reputation for killing the pilot. I don't recall the Calibarn being mentioned by name in the prologue, and the husband killed himself by pushing his preproduction Lfrith to the limits to give his wife and toddler a chance to escape.
All Gundams do have a rep for killing the pilot. The difference is Calibarn doesn't have the filters other Gundams had so instead of slowly killing you, it would immediately fry your ass. Its was effectively useless to anyone other than Suletta.
Rouji says there is one machine with a similar permet code to the Aerial/Lfrith so there was one gundam that was public before the pre-production Lfriths, which weren't public/registered, to give gundam the pilot killing status and witch moniker which was the Calibarn and the broom rifle.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I think the code was registered not because Calibarn was public knowledge but because the SAL had it and it registered in the system at some point.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Calibarn would have to be public because the public is aware that gundams kill their pilots, that's why you see the "Gundam took my child's life" sign in the prologue and have the code be something the students could access as opposed to the SAL's Lfrith stash which was all unregistered machines.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Why do you think the Lfrith's weren't public knowledge?
9 months ago
Anonymous
There is very little implying they were covered up either. The way Miorine and Earth house talk about them in season 1 implies they weren't so much hidden from history as much as forgotten and old fashioned (which is kind of silly considering it was only 2 decades ago and they are in a mobile suit school but whatever)
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah for Delling's ban to really work at all, knowledge of what GUND was and why it was supposedly bad had to be known. He wasn't trying to erase them from history he was making a prohibition. Which btw only applied to Benerit group and those under the MS development council. He wasn't space king.
That explains why the SAL, the actual space government, still had Calibarn and had its permet ID registered in the public database.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Which btw only applied to Benerit group and those under the MS development council. He wasn't space king.
So couldn't the remnants of ochs earth just join another conglomerate instead of working for the glowies or something?
9 months ago
Anonymous
In theory. But the problem is Benerit was by far the largest and most powerful on the space corpo conglomerates. If they got wind of a competitor making Gundams, Delling wouldn't hesitate to buy them out and shut it down most likely.
SAL is safe-ish because they are the space government. And Benerit can't outright oppose them, yet. However Benerit is large and powerful enough to operate almost as an independent sovereign entity. This is why SAL wants to take them down, they've effectively lost their monopoly of violence. Corporations aren't supposed to be able to make their own laws and then enforce them lethally. Yet here we are.
They are listed as pre-production so they wouldn't be known at large by the public but other gundams like Calibarn can be known and be the reason Delling wants them banned so the prologue can happen in the first place.
Calibarn is even more so a prototype than the Lfriths are. People in general have a general notion that gundams are dangerous. Ochs earth was actively marketing them before the vanadis incident. There's a news bit at the start that mentions a space nation ordering Gundams from them.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>But the problem is Benerit was by far the largest and most powerful on the space corpo conglomerates
Weird that we never got even a mention of rival monopolies. All the political scuffling comes from within the group, would’ve been neat to see the other corpo hell orgs
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah only so much world building you can fit in 24 episodes. We know Benerit is the biggest group because we were told so. But we don't really know much if anything about the other corpos. I hope followup work expands on that.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Calibarn is even more so a prototype than the Lfriths are
While true, there being a public instance where a gundam kills its pilot and the Calibarn's broom rifle giving the witch iconography make it very likely to be the one.
9 months ago
Anonymous
We really don't know. That part hasn't been explained. We know from lore fluff that Calibarn killed anyone who tried to pilot it immediately so that line of development was abandoned and it was shelved in favor of the Lfrith line. Its safe to say the Calibarn was likely the first or one of the first attempts at putting GUND in an MS. That would also explain why it lacked filters. GUND prosthetics dont have them either. But we dont know how publicized it was at the time. We do know the Lfriths were openly marketed and they tried to sell them. We also know that Calibarn's existence seemed to be a secret to most of the characters except the SAL agent and Prospera, who recognized it at first sight.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>We also know that Calibarn's existence seemed to be a secret to most of the characters
Not really, while we really only see Bel and Elnora react to it, the other characters it is introduced to are the earth house who are two decades removed from the gundams initial gundam witch hunt so it's hard to say it was secret as opposed to forgotten like GUND-medical tech.
9 months ago
Anonymous
There was no bigger ms conglomerate than Benerit. Also continuing to make gundams with another company runs the risk of losing public opinion and going under, the only reason that didn't happen with Shinsei was the plausible deniability with Suletta not dying and later Delling's approval.
9 months ago
Anonymous
They are listed as pre-production so they wouldn't be known at large by the public but other gundams like Calibarn can be known and be the reason Delling wants them banned so the prologue can happen in the first place.
The Calibarn itself isn't that hated. A lot of people hate the broom gun and I personally think the broom gun is stupid and half-assed without something corresponding to a witch hat(not that I know how to incorporate that without it looking dumb), but the machine itself looks slick.
She pushed the Permet beyond it's limits and generated an enormous amount of energy and like certain other metals when super heated they disintegrated.
She pushed the Permet beyond it's limits and generated an enormous amount of energy and like certain other metals when super heated they disintegrated.
Also she didn't do it alone. Eri helped with the space magic.
How did Kira survive his suit literally exploding around him?
How did Heero survive standing on the hatch of his Gundam as it self destructed?
EXPLAIN THIS!
/m/ hates <current show>. When the next one comes out they will move on and Gwitch will be praised. It happens every time. People forget why this board even exists.
he did die. the kira that uses the X-10A Freedom is a clone of the original, and the kira that uses the X-20A Strike Freedom is another clone.
Why do you think he and Lacus never had any kids? Completely infertile.
I thought I was the only one who thought the Calibarn looked like the Unicorn and the gun looked like a broom. Remind me, where did it come from? Every time you blinked you missed something in the later episodes.
It is never good. Heero should had died. He added nothing to the show anyway.
>everyone was predicting what the P2 backpack was going to be for >turns out, literally fricking nothing
Yeah. I was hoping it would had been used as tail gunner in a WWII bomber.
Amuro took the combined wishes of an entire planet and it was an extension of the gradual buildup of Newtype phenomena from 140 episodes of anime
Unicorn was some shark leaping bullshit which WfM decided to plagarise because it's so derivitive it even decided to copy the worst parts of previous gundams
She's actually fine as long as she doesn't go over permet 9000 or whatever. Unless she is one of the main focusses of the game they will probably stick her in Aeriel for the whole thing.
They had a whole scenario already written and planned out but after writing the first episode the director suggested they do a school setting and the entire staff decided that was an amazing idea and scrapped everything they had up to that point and retooled the whole thing into being what we got. Going by the sheer number of animators they had to draft in as well as the repeated delays between episodes, I’m fairly convinced they didn’t just shoot themselves in the foot by doing that but they blew the whole leg off. I don’t think Bandai was really comfortable with it in the first place. They poured a lot into merchandising but dropping the Seed Freedom trailer the minute the show ended as well as announcing the western CG thing a week or two later makes me think they knew it was bad and wanted to damage control as fast as possible. Dunno about kit sales apart from Aerial. Every source I see regarding them is completely different on if they’re a hit or not
No excuse for a show with this much money and manpower behind it. If G-Reco could do 24 episodes in a row with only one break for the New Year while looking as good as it does than this shitshow should be able to as well. They clearly didn’t know what the frick they were doing
>two week break between episode 6 and 7 >two week break between episode 10 and 11 >two week break between episode 11 and 12 >two week break between episode 17 and 18
If I remember correctly one of the later episodes was delayed by a day as well.
>two week break between episode 10 and 11 >two week break between episode 11 and 12
Not production but end of year scheduling, the episodes were done and even the Aerial Rebuild was "leaked" by SD cards because the episodes were supposed to have aired already. >If I remember correctly one of the later episodes was delayed by a day as well.
Your remember wrong, certain streaming services were delayed for licensing reasons but the episodes did air normally on time.
>two week break between episode 6 and 7 >two week break between episode 10 and 11 >two week break between episode 11 and 12 >two week break between episode 17 and 18
If I remember correctly one of the later episodes was delayed by a day as well.
>They had a whole scenario already written and planned out but after writing the first episode the director suggested they do a school setting and the entire staff decided that was an amazing idea and scrapped everything they had up to that point and retooled the whole thing into being what we got.
This is literally the opposite of what happened. From the very beginning, they set out to create a Gundam that was not for existing Gundam fans. They specifically targeted zoomers who have no interest in war and war drama because that generation can't relate to any of that being so removed from the last major global or regional conflict.
The story they were going to tell still sounded different enough from existing gundam without depending on the school setting so heavily. They just figured instead of doing something complicated and risky, falling onto a school setting and cute girls would absolutely guarantee a level of success and a good base. The issue after became that they simply kept taking the easy way without adding anything interesting resulting is a very safe but ultimately flavor of the month show
Except Okouchi said that was the case himself. The worst part is they didn't even create something different or new. They just made Build Fighters without the fun but all the references.
The trip that Okamaoto went on and returned from that generated the question for having it be a school setting was so early in the development that it was nothing at all. The structure being planned out was related it it being a season show split into 2 cours.
Sounds like a cope because Okouchi said they were done with the episode 1 script and were working on the episode 2 script when they threw everything out.
9 months ago
Anonymous
And Okamaoto who is the producer who hired Okuchi and the director Kobayashi, made no big deal out of it. Seeing as how Okamoto is the one controlling the schedule and purse strings, it had it have been early enough where the entire thing wasn't such a waste. Remember Miorine didn't even exist yet prior to the school plan so this had to have been super early.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Was that obvious in the show's plot? Miorine being a late edition?
>was so early in the development that it was nothing at all
That doesn’t really make sense with what we know and how it was paced. S1 took as long as it did to resolve conflicts that could easily be resolved because it wanted to bait fans into thinking there was more while S2 has a breakneck pace because they knew that was all they had to work with and all they were getting. In terms if money, playing the first half that way gets fans interested and along for the ride while even if they don’t tune in for the second half, the first kept people watching enough to justify the slow crawl.
They knew what they were working with, the just chose to pace it in a moronic way. The slap scene should have been episode 9 or 10 instead of 12 but they were banking on people’s curiosity over the aftermath but they couldn’t even capitalize on that. Its a damn shame when fricking A.Z does that cliffhanger better.
I really like the Calibarn. The weapon is unique, the color scheme basically the NT-D Unicorn and the whole idea of the suit is it's the prototype to the cooler shit. So it's mechanically inferior and yet still holding it's own against modern Aerial level technology.
Fricking school setting, I'm tired of it in both eastern and western cartoons. Children see school every day and they hate it. Why would they want to watch a school in their time away from theirs?
But their schools don't have giant robot fights.
And it's also aimed towards adults who have fond memories of school, after they forget all the shit bits.
worse, i´ve had to deal with autists that go into hour-long tirades speculating how would a 00 derivative from a build figthers manga/ova would have to be built to include the whole array of weapons that he likes but are not included in any of the basic or already produced model kits, and how it would affect the performance of said gunpla " ingame"
the first time you politely nod and let him rant about his head cannon
the third time you politely try to making cut it out because you already have real life bullshit to deal and you cant waste so much time listening to his rant , because of course he will be a primadonna and b***h if you dont.
by the 5th time i understand every nerd-stuff store owner and the look of soul sucking missery they have while on duty...
I checked his channel for the first time in like 6 years and there was a community post he’d done ranting and raving about Fukuda when the trailer came out and it just amazed me that he’s STILL AT IT
>Cinemaphile >home of alt-right chuds and ironic trolls
I mean, /m/ getting pissed at the very notion of a female MC and dragging the show for months after it finishes is to be expected. Where do you think you are?
Witch will never get a sequel or spin off because: >Ditch the whole corporate war setting for school shit >Yuri >Calibarn deletes all MS >Fanbase is not right in the head and was hurting the fandom
They should make a sequel where the kid crying in quinharbor when it was being razed tracks down crippletta and crippsera and shoots them both in the back of the head
>posts a gundam cooler than the poster child of this AU
Man, I dunno how people find the energy to hate G-Witch now that it's over, I can barely remember anything other than the Lion fricking up and the MS suits. It's just not worth the effort
the way that brewing war just 'ends' was highly unsatisfying. not even unicorn had that much bullshittium in play, and that could conjure literal acts of god.
the show is ass but the gundam is alright.
No, the show is good.
Good and terrible. First half is useless school k-drama and second half is useless white haired b***h fricks up so we have to save her. It sucked.
No, just good.
It's a solid 7.5/10
No, the show great.
It's a mediocre design but it's the least of WFM's problems. The main issue is the absolute horrid writing and obnoxious yurigay fanbase.
ok snowflake
That's not victory
I hate victory, what a stupid ms
Yeah victory as a kit looks iffy to me.
Only until the next series comes out. Then everyone will go into max revisionism mode like they've been doing with IBO.
Bro, IBO has always been dunked on ever since Orga died, why do you think that's one of the most funniest scene in Gundam history?
I did zero revisionism with that trash.
Freedom didn't have "and then they all dissolved for no reason" powers that still are not explained.
Agreed, Calibarn is just that bad.
only the series. Caliburn was alright as an MS, probably the only one I even like design-wise in the show besides the Lfrith. otherwise everything else is a wet fart
Caliburn was pretty decent. it just deserved more build ups and not appearing out of nowhere. But the Freedom was also inserted out of Fukuda's ass, so by now the fanbase is used to it
Calibarn's only saving grace was the stupid broomstick canon. Schwarzette is way sexier.
>broomstick canon.
To this day I still don't see a broom in that thing.
Maybe the thruster pack at the end? But it's held more like a a shield booster like seen on the Hazel Custom family or the Gundam Mk-V
The only problem with Calibarn is the lack of screen time.
Add Demi Barding to the mix.
I saw a nip saying demi barding was selling badly and blaming its lack of screentime
I haven't seen any pics like michaelis_stocks.jpg though
>everyone was predicting what the P2 backpack was going to be for
>turns out, literally fricking nothing
Well, to be fair, it was used for enabling the MS to fly in Quiet Zero's field of control by switching to a non-Permet board of controls, as Rouji here explained in episode 22.
there was a lot of gimmicks in the gunpla manuals said they did something that did nothing in season two, its odd
i actually like it and think the backpack is kind of cute, like a personal R2D2 or perhaps a malevolent demon whispering sweet nothings into my ear
>zoomers think this is good animation
How the frick is it not? Goddamn morons and their e-thots.
even obari does one frame zoom and swipe all the time, you might not like some of the staging and ideas but its pretty well done animation
That animation isn't well done. It's choppy and has fricking grease smeared across the images. It looks like someone turned on PS4 chromatic aberration. Build Fighters had similar sequences and they were better done there a decade ago.
G-Witch some how also produced one of the worst Itano circuses since 2009.
You're trying to hard.
It is. Most Gundam space battles are poorly directed and borderline incomprehensible anyways but that's on the upper end of things.
I’ll never understand why they made the helmets that way if they wanted to show the characters faces like that. There’s no reason for it to disappear, a good enough effect would have come through and looked even cooler but it looks tacky disappearing like that.
It's just for the OP. They don't do that in the show.
Nothing compares to hand drawn and inked but for a modern tv anime its pretty good.
I know but it lookd stupid in the OP. Let the pilots wear their helmets in the OP, especially since Suletta is more often out of her suit entirely than in it at all.
Pure Kink
That’s not every gundam in 00
I liked dynames
no, you like master gundam
Only Tieria's upgrade with the gundam hat. What the frick were they thinking?
None of the fights in wfm were memorable. Hell this show is basically 'oh yeah that was a thing'
Eh, you can say that about many Gundams, like SEED. I really can't recall any memorable fights.
You're webm is pretty much the sole fight I remember of IBO (awesome thought)
G-witch aired just yesterday so it's hard to judge but Suletta vs grassley, guel desesperate fight against his dad and third fight vs Suletta were memorable tier.
IBO Had a lot of good fights even if s2 was shit. People still remember barbies fights, especialky the mobile armor and last stand.
Unga banga melee is simply better than beamspam
season 1 was hands down the worst gundam entry of all time
Considering how few people talk about the fights chances are only the most hardcore G-Witch fans will remember any fights that happened. Meanwhile people still talk about Stark Jegan versus Kshat and that only involved one main character.
I've been saying since G-Witch S2 was airing that the fights in IBO in spite of the shitty animation ran circles around the ones in WFM. I can only the remember Guel's fight scenes but even those were just passable and were hard-carried by the novelty of tv 2D mecha animation in modern anime. The early fights in IBO where Tekkadan had to scrape to survive like the duel against Crank and the fight against the Turbans where Mikazuki shown off his pilot skills in a then mediocre mobile suit were way more thrilling than Aerial sandbags the fight and then pulls out clutch hax move at the last second.
several issues
>Bits are the big thing in AD stella but are pretty misused apart from Sword funnels and Pharact's genuinely interesting EMP bits (which were only used twice). Aerials funnels literally do everything the plot demands they can.
>Over the course of the series every fight just devolves into one side going "I raise my permet score and win". Nothing clever is really done with the EW aspect of permet since its always just completely overiding whatever Aerial wants
>The duel format hurts stakes even more than some realise. Obviously characters can't die straight away, but the fact that Aerial's ownership is on the line means Suletta will never even come close to losing until the entire cast plots against her in season 2. No lethality means there's no risk of some shuttle or important structure getting hit by collateral damage until the school shootings start.
>A bunch of scenes are just 1:1 "homages" of previous scenes without any thought put into them, like "what if G-Bit mobile suits but WFM" or "what if Unicorn but WFM"
>Standard grunt moronation combined with none of the mobile suit firms actually bothering to put any effort in developing their weapons except for Jeturk (aren't these supposed to be competitive cutthroats?)
>Aerials funnels literally do everything the plot demands they can.
Shoot beams and shield, just like the ones in the prologue. They are later upgraded to make a field for the tech hijacking.
>Shoot beams
>Shield
>Thrusters
>Overide
>nonvisually detect people on foot without
>make its rifle so powerful that it can melt through everything even when "it's not meant for combat"
>Shoot beams
>Shield
>Thrusters
>make its rifle so powerful that it can melt through everything even when "it's not meant for combat"
All things the Lfrith did.
>Overide
>nonvisually detect people on foot without
All things that were after it was upgraded.
>A bunch of scenes are just 1:1 "homages" of previous scenes without any thought put into them, like "what if G-Bit mobile suits but WFM" or "what if Unicorn but WFM"
This is an issue plaguing Gundam as a franchise.
Tomino gets a pass
There's a level of losing the forest for the trees when people complain about homages in a series that has as many char clones as Gundam does, at this point the familiarity is what has kept the series going for this long, even attempts to reinvent the franchise usually don't stray too far from the basics
you've had decades to get used to the fact there's probably going to be an autistic protagonist who gets into a special white mobile suit with prototype autism powers and an autistic masked person of high status in their own suit they've autistically insisted on painting red, battles are waged with some kind of social autism power, and that there's going to be enemy suits with one eye and a contrasting design language, but not so odd as to confuse the autistic audience, who needs to buy the autism boxes
Reusing entire storyboards from previous Gundam entries almost 1:1 is a "homage" huh?
Gundam has reused entire plot arcs and characters before. How is this any worse?
And we shit on it when OO did it, and when Unicorn did it.
Yet somehow G-Witch went even lower and no only reused the plots and characters, but even the storyboards.
When Zeta or X copied scenes from 0079 it actually served a narrative purpose
Also no other gundam show to date had the complete shamelessness to literally call their Four Murasame clone "Number Four"
both were literally the 4th test subjects in line at their laboratory and were intentionally stripped of their prior identities
next you'll fricking complain model numbers are kinda sequential
No I won't, instead I'll say that the point went over your head. The reason in the plot isn't what I'm talking about. I'm talking about how the writers decided to make the most on the nose Cinderella Four rehash since Stella and Anew and also decided to even use the same name as some attempt to look clever in hopes that the viewer will clap when they see the reference.
Zechs Marquise is a pretty transparent Char ripoff but at the very least wings writers had the good graces to not name him "Blar Raznable"
And the point I'm trying to make but is apparently not getting through to you is that it's fricking normal to refer to things lacking proper names as #1, #2, etc.
>decided to even use the same name
Except it's not? This is like complaining that Quatre has the same name as Four Murasame. Four's fricking name is literally spelled "Four" or フォウ and pronounced as the English word even in Japanese. The Elan clone is referred to as 4号, pronounced as "yon go" and is the literal term "#4", not an actual fricking proper name.
They still pretty much were using that as a way to make the viewers fill in the blank rather than telling a story to get you to that point. And they didn't even go much further with it. They went
>"you know that character you like? he's a boy version of that! give us your money and praise now"
It's the fact that they made him the 4th at all. Why is he the 4th when he could have had his own number? He could have been his own thing but instead they bank on the audience just liking the character because he's a heavy handed reference.
>They still pretty much were using that as a way to make the viewers fill in the blank rather than telling a story to get you to that point.
If they didn't also dump his exposition and background in the episode or two that he dies in, then sure.
>He could have been his own thing but instead they bank on the audience just liking the character because he's a heavy handed reference.
And then they introduced subject #5 who did have a different personality, greater motivation, and ends up becoming more than just a lab experiment. This ends up being better than Rosamia which is a literal retread of Four.
>It's the fact that they made him the 4th at all. Why is he the 4th when he could have had his own number?
The number 4 in japanese culture is like 13 in the west. The reason doomed characters keep getting stuck with the name is because its the number of death dumbass. And if you want to say that's too on the nose, deal with it. Gundam is ultimately a kid's show.
No shit dumbass but its incredibly uninspired when the series already was that on the nose once. But this ultimately is G-witch, of course they'd go the simplest route to get both weebs into shallow symbolism and old fans who will conenct the characters
>No shit dumbass but its incredibly uninspired when the series already was that on the nose once.
Anon...
> And if you want to say that's too on the nose, deal with it. Gundam is ultimately a kid's show.
Stop b***hing about a kid's show lacking subtlety. Its pretty pathetic.
>Wow I remember when Quatre died
Nah, just killed untold numbers of people when he destroyed that space colony.
Being a kids show doesn't justify shit decisions, Anon. Plenty of kids shows have things that arent so on the nose and they're better for it. Plus, Gundam isn't just for kids, it's made with both audiences in mind so it's not a good excuse.
It isn't a shit decision, its just a well used trope and lacking in subtlety.
Same thing said in a different way. The trope isn't bad it was just used in a shit way
Wow I remember when Quatre died
Filtered.
>The duel format hurts stakes even more than some realise. Obviously characters can't die straight away, but the fact that Aerial's ownership is on the line means Suletta will never even come close to losing until the entire cast plots against her in season 2. No lethality means there's no risk of some shuttle or important structure getting hit by collateral damage until the school shootings start.
G-Witch's fights weren't that great for the most part but you don't have to throw every single sports anime (G Gundam included) under the bus
There are no stakes in G Gundam either, which is part of why it's fights suck too.
If your only standard for good fight is the stakes then you're an idiot. Plenty of terrible fights had high stakes and plenty of great fights had low stakes. The best kung fu fight of all time was in a low stakes comedy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlwh8x7bygk
>thinks this flailing mess of a fight is "the best kung fu fight of all time"
Ok Anon, post your's. Lets see how cultured you are.
Suletta having a schizo moment fighting Shadman and his harem was pretty good
Who got this AUshit in my UC?
hate. HATE
>boomers think this is good animation
>wait a minute I recognize that fighting style...
Thought this was Narrative or Unicorn from the thumbnail. Was never a fan of the psychoframe look. Hopefully they stop using that kind of design.
And yet its kit is always sold out like hell.
>most hated
Nah, there are far more hated gundams than this.
Thats still Gundam Age.
/m/ doesn't hate AGE. The /m/ hating AGE comes from that fake meme pic revealing it would be about kids controlling Gundam with their cellphones or some shit. Most of /m/ just don't care about it and that's it.
You want to know what a hated series is? Everyone is happy about SEED returning now, but you had to be here when Destiny's clusterfrick script and protagonist sidelining was happening.
>but you had to be here when Destiny's clusterfrick script and protagonist sidelining was happening
And people loved it.
Cinemaphile loved it, /m/ was created by those that hated it.
That's factually incorrect. /m/ was created before Destiny even came out. And in point of fact, it was created because after Destiny was announced as an upcoming project Cinemaphile got flooded with SEED threads. /m/ exists because Cinemaphile wanted Destiny to GTFO.
>Everyone is happy about SEED returning now
Did you really think you'd get away with this?
kek everyone shit on the movie after the first trailer and hasn't talked about it for awhile. I don't think anyone is seriously looking forward to it.
Anon, stop making shit up because your NA brain can't fathom that JP is gearing up for the SEED Movie. Just because MURRICA doesn't fawn over it, doesn't mean it is being ignored.
I was talking about this board dumbass. But the elevens did shit on the character designs.
>Make show about lesbians
>Invites yurigays
>They don't care for the series
What the frick were they thinking?
What hurts the Calibarn is the lore. If it was a machine SAL worked on for private testing outside of public eye, it might’ve been understandable. After all, the freedom was presumably built using data from possibly four other Gundams, so it kinda makes sense.
But tying it into the Vanadis institute opens up too many questions the show briefly answers feels tacked on, out of nowhere. At least with the freedom enough time has passed to warrant some prototype being built.
One you could logically assume, the other you’re confused on and won’t receive answers on ever. I honestly wish we got a flashback episode detailing events before and after Vanadis, not just small flashbacks in places.
>copy all this shit from Zeta, Unicorn, and NT
>steal shit from Gundam X on top of that
>don't copy the part where the Federation, the Titans, and Anaheim were messing around with secret shit
>don't even copy the shit from Gundam Wing where the Doctors made the plans but were like frick that it's too dangerous
>don't even copy the shit about some weirdos making Double X by smashing two Xs together
>Calibarn was just some super secret monster from 20 years ago that nobody mentioned ever and shows up again in perfect working order because space CIA didn't just destroy it
G-Witch was all answers without questions and those answers just caused questions.
They really should've just made G-Witch into season 5 of the Build franchise. That shit already has kids in school fighting duels with special custom products. Could've made Maria-sama wa Gundam Pride: Build no Hana or some shit.
>>don't even copy the shit about some weirdos making Double X by smashing two Xs together
What? The reason why DX has such a name is because it has two Satellite Cannons & probably has twice the specs of a regular X, right?
NUNE basically tried to build their own Gundam X, were shit at it, but had Jamil's wrecked Gundam X from the war. They smashed them together to make Double X.
It's really just Jamil's Gundam X but with two guns and more radiators to deal with the heat.
Rewatched X few months ago, both the DX and Jamil's X are shown in an island, connected together by wires since the data of the latter is used/being transferred to the former for the TSC.
Dude when was the last time you saw the show?
>don't copy the part where the Federation, the Titans, and Anaheim were messing around with secret shit
Literally Pharact and Schwarzette.
The wing equivalent would be
>Zechs uses Epyon and for 90% of the show but gets it destroyed
>But then suddenly Tallgeese appears fully prebuilt and it was just sitting there with a full battery the whole time in some random hanger so Zechs can pilot something lol
You know for a show all about people building gundams and set in a thinly disguised MS R&D centre the show is really shit at showing mobile suits be developed
Because it isn’t about MS R&D. It’s about Okuichis take on the tempest.
"take" is too much credit, its the same story lazily copy pasted
I love them pulling a character's old mech out after the upgrade MS gets trashed.
Calibarn is sorta different in that plotwise it's effectively a new mech. Maybe I wasn't paying enough attention, but a mention during the prologue or earlier episodes would've been nice.
>but a mention during the prologue or earlier episodes would've been nice.
It was the similar permet code mentioned in ep 2 and the reason for the gundam's pilot killing reputation in the prologue.
I thought any MS with permet link (aka Gund-arm and then Gundam) was already considered to have a reputation for killing the pilot. I don't recall the Calibarn being mentioned by name in the prologue, and the husband killed himself by pushing his preproduction Lfrith to the limits to give his wife and toddler a chance to escape.
All Gundams do have a rep for killing the pilot. The difference is Calibarn doesn't have the filters other Gundams had so instead of slowly killing you, it would immediately fry your ass. Its was effectively useless to anyone other than Suletta.
Rouji says there is one machine with a similar permet code to the Aerial/Lfrith so there was one gundam that was public before the pre-production Lfriths, which weren't public/registered, to give gundam the pilot killing status and witch moniker which was the Calibarn and the broom rifle.
I think the code was registered not because Calibarn was public knowledge but because the SAL had it and it registered in the system at some point.
Calibarn would have to be public because the public is aware that gundams kill their pilots, that's why you see the "Gundam took my child's life" sign in the prologue and have the code be something the students could access as opposed to the SAL's Lfrith stash which was all unregistered machines.
Why do you think the Lfrith's weren't public knowledge?
There is very little implying they were covered up either. The way Miorine and Earth house talk about them in season 1 implies they weren't so much hidden from history as much as forgotten and old fashioned (which is kind of silly considering it was only 2 decades ago and they are in a mobile suit school but whatever)
Yeah for Delling's ban to really work at all, knowledge of what GUND was and why it was supposedly bad had to be known. He wasn't trying to erase them from history he was making a prohibition. Which btw only applied to Benerit group and those under the MS development council. He wasn't space king.
That explains why the SAL, the actual space government, still had Calibarn and had its permet ID registered in the public database.
>Which btw only applied to Benerit group and those under the MS development council. He wasn't space king.
So couldn't the remnants of ochs earth just join another conglomerate instead of working for the glowies or something?
In theory. But the problem is Benerit was by far the largest and most powerful on the space corpo conglomerates. If they got wind of a competitor making Gundams, Delling wouldn't hesitate to buy them out and shut it down most likely.
SAL is safe-ish because they are the space government. And Benerit can't outright oppose them, yet. However Benerit is large and powerful enough to operate almost as an independent sovereign entity. This is why SAL wants to take them down, they've effectively lost their monopoly of violence. Corporations aren't supposed to be able to make their own laws and then enforce them lethally. Yet here we are.
Calibarn is even more so a prototype than the Lfriths are. People in general have a general notion that gundams are dangerous. Ochs earth was actively marketing them before the vanadis incident. There's a news bit at the start that mentions a space nation ordering Gundams from them.
>But the problem is Benerit was by far the largest and most powerful on the space corpo conglomerates
Weird that we never got even a mention of rival monopolies. All the political scuffling comes from within the group, would’ve been neat to see the other corpo hell orgs
Yeah only so much world building you can fit in 24 episodes. We know Benerit is the biggest group because we were told so. But we don't really know much if anything about the other corpos. I hope followup work expands on that.
>Calibarn is even more so a prototype than the Lfriths are
While true, there being a public instance where a gundam kills its pilot and the Calibarn's broom rifle giving the witch iconography make it very likely to be the one.
We really don't know. That part hasn't been explained. We know from lore fluff that Calibarn killed anyone who tried to pilot it immediately so that line of development was abandoned and it was shelved in favor of the Lfrith line. Its safe to say the Calibarn was likely the first or one of the first attempts at putting GUND in an MS. That would also explain why it lacked filters. GUND prosthetics dont have them either. But we dont know how publicized it was at the time. We do know the Lfriths were openly marketed and they tried to sell them. We also know that Calibarn's existence seemed to be a secret to most of the characters except the SAL agent and Prospera, who recognized it at first sight.
>We also know that Calibarn's existence seemed to be a secret to most of the characters
Not really, while we really only see Bel and Elnora react to it, the other characters it is introduced to are the earth house who are two decades removed from the gundams initial gundam witch hunt so it's hard to say it was secret as opposed to forgotten like GUND-medical tech.
There was no bigger ms conglomerate than Benerit. Also continuing to make gundams with another company runs the risk of losing public opinion and going under, the only reason that didn't happen with Shinsei was the plausible deniability with Suletta not dying and later Delling's approval.
They are listed as pre-production so they wouldn't be known at large by the public but other gundams like Calibarn can be known and be the reason Delling wants them banned so the prologue can happen in the first place.
No, it works fine as a prototype Ochs had Vanadis make that gave the gundams their negative public image and had them pivot the the Lfrith for safety.
The Calibarn itself isn't that hated. A lot of people hate the broom gun and I personally think the broom gun is stupid and half-assed without something corresponding to a witch hat(not that I know how to incorporate that without it looking dumb), but the machine itself looks slick.
>The Calibarn itself isn't that hated
No, it is.
My problem with the Calibarn is the same as the 00 quanta. Once it gets all it's cool shit, it only uses to do one thing and it's never seen again.
Can someone explain to me how Suletta Sue managed to dissolve all Gundams into magic particles?
She pushed the Permet beyond it's limits and generated an enormous amount of energy and like certain other metals when super heated they disintegrated.
It was an after effect, not an intentional decision by her.
Also she didn't do it alone. Eri helped with the space magic.
IDK Anon, how Amuro stop the asteroid? How did Banana stop the other space laser?
How did Kira survive his suit literally exploding around him?
How did Heero survive standing on the hatch of his Gundam as it self destructed?
EXPLAIN THIS!
Same thing that saved Shiro throughout 08th. Plot armor.
So when Boy does it, it's good. But when GIRL does it, it's bad?
/m/ hates <current show>. When the next one comes out they will move on and Gwitch will be praised. It happens every time. People forget why this board even exists.
Kira should have died
he did die. the kira that uses the X-10A Freedom is a clone of the original, and the kira that uses the X-20A Strike Freedom is another clone.
Why do you think he and Lacus never had any kids? Completely infertile.
I thought I was the only one who thought the Calibarn looked like the Unicorn and the gun looked like a broom. Remind me, where did it come from? Every time you blinked you missed something in the later episodes.
It is never good. Heero should had died. He added nothing to the show anyway.
Yeah. I was hoping it would had been used as tail gunner in a WWII bomber.
We b***hed about the men too
Excuse me?
We b***h about how Kira surviving makes no sense either. Stop acting like a women.
Amuro took the combined wishes of an entire planet and it was an extension of the gradual buildup of Newtype phenomena from 140 episodes of anime
Unicorn was some shark leaping bullshit which WfM decided to plagarise because it's so derivitive it even decided to copy the worst parts of previous gundams
Because Okouchi decided to make the first AU inspired by unicorn
I hate how every single secondary mobile suit in WfM got shafted HARD.
Weird way to draw a Heavy Full Armor 7th Gundam
How can srw put Suletta in calibarn when just sitting in the seat gives her 59 heart attacks per minute?
She's actually fine as long as she doesn't go over permet 9000 or whatever. Unless she is one of the main focusses of the game they will probably stick her in Aeriel for the whole thing.
Super Mode for 5 turns and then it turns off. Just like how stuff like NT-D or other time limited super modes work
my most hated show is Wing, my most hated gundam is probably AGE I
Can anyone really explain what happened BTS? Feels like either Bandai had no hope in this show or they severely micromanaged it.
They had a whole scenario already written and planned out but after writing the first episode the director suggested they do a school setting and the entire staff decided that was an amazing idea and scrapped everything they had up to that point and retooled the whole thing into being what we got. Going by the sheer number of animators they had to draft in as well as the repeated delays between episodes, I’m fairly convinced they didn’t just shoot themselves in the foot by doing that but they blew the whole leg off. I don’t think Bandai was really comfortable with it in the first place. They poured a lot into merchandising but dropping the Seed Freedom trailer the minute the show ended as well as announcing the western CG thing a week or two later makes me think they knew it was bad and wanted to damage control as fast as possible. Dunno about kit sales apart from Aerial. Every source I see regarding them is completely different on if they’re a hit or not
>repeated delays between episodes
Literally only 2 production delays, one in each season.
No excuse for a show with this much money and manpower behind it. If G-Reco could do 24 episodes in a row with only one break for the New Year while looking as good as it does than this shitshow should be able to as well. They clearly didn’t know what the frick they were doing
I remember there being 2 breaks atleast in season 1 alone.
>two week break between episode 10 and 11
>two week break between episode 11 and 12
Not production but end of year scheduling, the episodes were done and even the Aerial Rebuild was "leaked" by SD cards because the episodes were supposed to have aired already.
>If I remember correctly one of the later episodes was delayed by a day as well.
Your remember wrong, certain streaming services were delayed for licensing reasons but the episodes did air normally on time.
There was also a break after the episode el4n died.
>two week break between episode 6 and 7
>two week break between episode 10 and 11
>two week break between episode 11 and 12
>two week break between episode 17 and 18
If I remember correctly one of the later episodes was delayed by a day as well.
could have sworn S2 have 2 delay with one filled with recap.
>They had a whole scenario already written and planned out but after writing the first episode the director suggested they do a school setting and the entire staff decided that was an amazing idea and scrapped everything they had up to that point and retooled the whole thing into being what we got.
This is literally the opposite of what happened. From the very beginning, they set out to create a Gundam that was not for existing Gundam fans. They specifically targeted zoomers who have no interest in war and war drama because that generation can't relate to any of that being so removed from the last major global or regional conflict.
I dont even like the series and I still think that was a brilliant idea.
even that doesn't really make sense given the quantity of often obnoxious callbacks
The story they were going to tell still sounded different enough from existing gundam without depending on the school setting so heavily. They just figured instead of doing something complicated and risky, falling onto a school setting and cute girls would absolutely guarantee a level of success and a good base. The issue after became that they simply kept taking the easy way without adding anything interesting resulting is a very safe but ultimately flavor of the month show
Except Okouchi said that was the case himself. The worst part is they didn't even create something different or new. They just made Build Fighters without the fun but all the references.
Where did he say it? Was he regretful over it?
The trip that Okamaoto went on and returned from that generated the question for having it be a school setting was so early in the development that it was nothing at all. The structure being planned out was related it it being a season show split into 2 cours.
Sounds like a cope because Okouchi said they were done with the episode 1 script and were working on the episode 2 script when they threw everything out.
And Okamaoto who is the producer who hired Okuchi and the director Kobayashi, made no big deal out of it. Seeing as how Okamoto is the one controlling the schedule and purse strings, it had it have been early enough where the entire thing wasn't such a waste. Remember Miorine didn't even exist yet prior to the school plan so this had to have been super early.
Was that obvious in the show's plot? Miorine being a late edition?
No, we know that from interviews.
>was so early in the development that it was nothing at all
That doesn’t really make sense with what we know and how it was paced. S1 took as long as it did to resolve conflicts that could easily be resolved because it wanted to bait fans into thinking there was more while S2 has a breakneck pace because they knew that was all they had to work with and all they were getting. In terms if money, playing the first half that way gets fans interested and along for the ride while even if they don’t tune in for the second half, the first kept people watching enough to justify the slow crawl.
They knew what they were working with, the just chose to pace it in a moronic way. The slap scene should have been episode 9 or 10 instead of 12 but they were banking on people’s curiosity over the aftermath but they couldn’t even capitalize on that. Its a damn shame when fricking A.Z does that cliffhanger better.
I really like the Calibarn. The weapon is unique, the color scheme basically the NT-D Unicorn and the whole idea of the suit is it's the prototype to the cooler shit. So it's mechanically inferior and yet still holding it's own against modern Aerial level technology.
Isn't that just the description for the Tallgeese?
They are very similar.
>white
>long rifle weapon
>large boosters
>know for speed and being dangerous to pilot
They really are.
It's a Tallgeese if it had funnels. So Like a Nu-Geese.
Calibarn doesn't have bits.
it had them for 10 seconds before killing itself
Those bits conveniently fit AND changed their colors to match Calibarn too
>fit
Don't two of them block the thrusters on the backpack?
Did you watch the show Anon?
Was Unicorn and Thunderbolt the last well liked series for Gundam?
Wait no, people liked Divers, yeah?
Build Divers was 10/10 stuff, not Re:Rise though.
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No, divers is crap.
Nah, it's the third best entry in the franchise after Destiny and Victory.
No, divers is crap.
Pressing X for Doubt on that one.
I see the Pitzgay posse still has nothing better to do than troll for lazy (you)s.
>Victory
Victory had the most memorable fights
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>No doubt, divers is just cool
Fixed
Do you mean the Calibarn or the series, either way it not true.
Fricking school setting, I'm tired of it in both eastern and western cartoons. Children see school every day and they hate it. Why would they want to watch a school in their time away from theirs?
But their schools don't have giant robot fights.
And it's also aimed towards adults who have fond memories of school, after they forget all the shit bits.
I can never forget the shit bits. Fricking Asians.
jnthed should stick to mecha musume.
>The most hated gundam in all of /m/
Hated how?
There's a lesbian in that MS.
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>No doubt, divers is just crap
Fixed
Nope, broke
Here’s a difficult question: who is the original Elan Ceres? We know nothing about him, he rarely shows up, and gets regulated to the background.
Forget 4 or 5, who is the assclown we call Elan0?
Just an assclown picked by an AI to show how faulty Peil is.
I know, I know, I fricking know. Jesus h. Christ, I know!
Just WHO literally is he? A playboy, serial killer, con-man, or heir to a family business? Who the frick is he!?
How many times do I have to ask this fricking question? I’m seriously going fricking crazy over not getting an answer.
Can anybody, somebody, tell me for god’s sake?
>Just WHO literally is he?
Doesn't matter.
have a nice day
nah im ok with it i hate that pink thing from ibo way way more then anything from the tanuki anime
You will never hate a Gundam as much this autistic guy who made an hour long rant about his fan fiction Destiny redesign:
god i wish i could feel feelings like that, i appreciate his passion
His voice is so grating.
Well it looks cool
worse, i´ve had to deal with autists that go into hour-long tirades speculating how would a 00 derivative from a build figthers manga/ova would have to be built to include the whole array of weapons that he likes but are not included in any of the basic or already produced model kits, and how it would affect the performance of said gunpla " ingame"
the first time you politely nod and let him rant about his head cannon
the third time you politely try to making cut it out because you already have real life bullshit to deal and you cant waste so much time listening to his rant , because of course he will be a primadonna and b***h if you dont.
by the 5th time i understand every nerd-stuff store owner and the look of soul sucking missery they have while on duty...
Strike Freedom rant coming anyyydayyyy now
God the new movie ensures all the Seed Schizos are gonna come out of hibernation aren't they?
I checked his channel for the first time in like 6 years and there was a community post he’d done ranting and raving about Fukuda when the trailer came out and it just amazed me that he’s STILL AT IT
Isn't he still responding to comments on his Impulse vs Freedom video?
I'm indifferent to Calibarn
/m/ hates everything
This
>Cinemaphile
>home of alt-right chuds and ironic trolls
I mean, /m/ getting pissed at the very notion of a female MC and dragging the show for months after it finishes is to be expected. Where do you think you are?
Fair
Witch will never get a sequel or spin off because:
>Ditch the whole corporate war setting for school shit
>Yuri
>Calibarn deletes all MS
>Fanbase is not right in the head and was hurting the fandom
They should make a sequel where the kid crying in quinharbor when it was being razed tracks down crippletta and crippsera and shoots them both in the back of the head
Nope. That title belongs to either Turn A, X, or IBO.
>posts a gundam cooler than the poster child of this AU
Man, I dunno how people find the energy to hate G-Witch now that it's over, I can barely remember anything other than the Lion fricking up and the MS suits. It's just not worth the effort
the way that brewing war just 'ends' was highly unsatisfying. not even unicorn had that much bullshittium in play, and that could conjure literal acts of god.
There was no brewing war
And everything just gets tied up neatly with a goddamn space dust ribbon?
No!
no matter how much you gays play pretend literally nothing is worse than unicorn, you just have recency bias