>The others heroes are edgy killers so Superman can lecture them that killing is bad and they can later grovel at Superman's feet for showing them wholesome kindness.
>The villain is an edgy killer clone who eventually deteriorates into a monster, but Superman still refuses to kill him like the other heroes want because it's not kind and wholesome.
>The big bad is a cynical suit who doesn't believe in wholesome kindness and is trying to turn the entire world into edgy buttholes.
This movie sounds really preachy. I fear it might have the reverse effect Gunn intends and just make Superman lamer to normies.
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I don't give a frick, how's the action scenes going to be?
Can't wait for a Sliver Age reference every 30 seconds & boomer rock...
imagine if he plays this
>boomer rock
Clark should absolutely 100% be a Bruce Springsteen fan. It fits his personality far more than liking Metallica in the 90s ever did.
>Bruce Springsteen
Hoyt Axton!
In the post-Crisis continuity Clark was a Metallica fan (although I'm pretty sure that was just so they could make a "And Justice For All" reference/joke).
Clarks from Kansas. If anything he should be a Toby Keith and country music fan.
Gunn put Flaming Lips for Guardians 3 so i wouldnt be shocked if he went the obvious route with Waitin' for a superman. https://youtu.be/SbDKL9wWcwE?si=E20vrRhPkCtNJQHY
Mr. Blue Sky here we come
already played on Guardians 2
I know, its gonna be kino
So, what rating will the movie have?
Rated R
Rated T for tax write off
Maybe it's because I don't like Gunn, but I truly can't see this movie being better than a 6. It's marketing itself as this Messianic Superman movie that's going to make everything right and save the cape genre, but it's obviously a stealth trailer for at least 5 other films. And Gunn is apparently terrified of actually telling anyone what it's about outside "Superman's in it and he smiles"
>It's marketing itself as this Messianic Superman movie that's going to make everything right and save the cape genre, but it's obviously a stealth trailer for at least 5 other films.
When Batman V Superman did that everyone very rightfully called it out for this. But people are giving Gunn a pass even though he's doing the exact same thing. They're putting half the justice league and the authority into what should be a standalone Superman movie.
Sounds like Gunn doesn't understand this character at all.
He's just gonna make a Superfriends movie.
Goddammit.
>I make things up and Cinemaphile will swallow it up and think it’s true because nobody here has any critical thinking skills when you just put an “>” in front of it
Legacy's entire pitch is that it's an anti-Snyder movie and that's pretty much all it can be if so.
Honestly after the DCEU gunns new Superman movie could be as bad and campy as Batman & Robin and Superman fans would lap it up because they're so underserved.
Or they will just b***h more because NOT MUH HECKIN WHOLESOME SUPERMAN
Is Superman going to tell me to drink my milk?
Because that was what was really missing from MoS.
This movie won't do half of box office of Man of Steel. Superman fanboys will blame Snyder for "poisoning the IP" despite the fact The Batman was a huge hit.
>The Batman was a huge hit.
Eh... Not so much.
It did okay. decent success.
>The Batman was a huge hit
The reason why it was considered a huge hit was because it managed to raise above the brand damage from Snyder. A Batman movie before BvS would've easily done around 1B
>rectally derived facts are totally real
The Superman clone thing is real, Gunn only said he wasn't the main villain.
Might makes right and Superman is not brave
What if Gunn uses Five for Fighting's Superman
I'd enjoy the movie you're describing, but it won't happen. The general public only sees comics as a source of socially acceptable aggression for small children. Without subversive cultural revanchism to buoy it, the secondary markets just aren't there.
>Without subversive cultural revanchism to buoy it, the secondary markets just aren't there.
People can enjoy a premise that's played straight as long as it isn't lame.
Use words you actually know the meaning of, limited though they may be.
James Gunn has already said the Ultraman shit isn’t true
thats because it got found out so he is trying to save face over a leak and lie
No he didn't.
No. He said Lex was the main villain. He side-stepped Ultraman/Bizzaro being the minion/puppet.
Don't care. It sounds like a Superman movie I haven't seen before and that's good enough for me. I don't need Superman redeemed in the eyes of casual idiots, I just want to enjoy a good Superman movie.
>I don't need Superman redeemed in the eyes of casual idiots
Then you're not getting anymore Superman if this shit flops. Nor the rest of Gunn's universe.
No matter how it turns out I think it flops. Or at least it doesn't make as much money as they want it to. I think we're near the end of this whole comics movie thing, except for Batman and Spider-Man and possibly X-Men.
>except for Batman and Spider-Man and possibly X-Men.
So how things were pre-MCU.
Yeah, pretty much. Superman's my favorite character but you have to face the facts, it's kind of an outdated thing. And they can try and transform it and change it to make it fit in with modern sensibilities but once you've done that it's no longer Superman. If it has to change to stay alive, it's probably best if it just goes away. But if we get one last good Superman fiilm? I'm all behind that.
Smallville was cool.
Sounds like if superman was isekaid into the boys
Making clark the sole good superhero in a world of edgelords who are just as powerful as him, is really the only place you can go with Superman without going against what he represents. People always say they can't relate to Superman because he's not an underdog fighting the power the way other superheroes do. He's too overpowered to ever really struggle in a fight against a villain like Batman, everyone loves him so he doesn't have to struggle with societys acceptance of him like spiderman. This way you get a Superman you can actually root for and who actually has to struggle to prove his ways are the better ones.
>Man of Steel
>NOOOOO, Superman being forced to kill a megalomaniac just as powerful as him if not more is bad!
>This one
>NOOOOO Superman shouldn't be a pussy boyscout!
Actual superman stories pre reeves
>Superman flashes his powers arrogantly at other people
Something Superman does in Allstar and everyone overlooks it
>Superman was sometimes a creepy stalker
>He wasn't above violence
Even Reeves Superman wasn't the pussy everyone thinks the character is. Does anyone actually read Superman stories?
Still can't wait for the fit DC gays are going to throw when Gunn's movie fails.
I still don't know if the white hair is natural or dyed, it wasn't like that when he did Guardians
The gross parts will be really gross
I do think the modern social-media-ized brand of political ideologues of which Gunn is one has lost the ability to make good art.
I mean he is on good terms with open conservative christian Chris Pratt, and was on the receiving end of cancel culture for some of his edgier jokes. Maybe he's been tempered a bit.
Am I the only one who had no idea Superman was a boyscott until I got involved with the internet?
Am I the only one who thinks this whole Gunn vs Snyder fiasco is a huge psyop operated by bots and plants?
It's no secret that a lot of people in hollywood hate the character and what he represents. A real Clark Kent would never get hired by the daily planet these days because he's doesn't fit the DEI requirements.
Expect most people in hollywood are pedos snd puppets for agenda and distraction. Alot of comicbook writers also had connections with Gunn, Zack, and pretty much everyone in the system knows each other. And it’s confidence that they are all occultist. This whole collapse with WB seems orchestrated and fake.
That and most journalists are scumbags.
Hollywood is only agenda based. Every move they make is for a reason.
They’re currently trying to collapse America right now. It’s more than just hating a character.
>They’re currently trying to collapse America right now
Maybe America shouldn't be so easy to collapse.
It’s a long term thing.
>They’re currently trying to collapse America right now
Why do you think they took away Supermans The American Way, and made it the more 'relevant' 'a better tomorrow'?
Psychological operation. Everything is a stage. And nothing gets to the top without blood and sacrifice.
It was rhetorical.
No, because the people who did that genuinely believe in the agenda they're pushing. Most of these guys are nepo hires and are champagne socialists.
They were placed there on purpose to push an agenda.
They're there because they had connections. That's it.
Because the American Way sounds racist?
Black people vote republican too.
fascist blacks
Why black americans hate their country so much, most africans are very nationalist and proud
They hate American blacks too.
>It's no secret that a lot of people in hollywood hate the character and what he represents
Its because they hate the genre. Look at all the subversive capeshit floating around now. The "haha this is moronic right??" wink at the camera stuff.
Superman is probably the most unapologetic and earnest hero and to be true to his character means to play the capeshit genre straight, which Hollywood seems allergic to.
Also Clark is a competent straight white male who everyone looks up to. Can't be having that.
>but batman
While batman is white and competent, he is a socially inept autist, and is the role model of every maladjusted loser who thinks they're sigma. Clark is an extrovert chad who gets along easily with people.
>but captain america
Yeah but they even made him preach the whole "america bad" argument, even if he was otherwise good. It's got to do with an attitude like
.
I don't know about that but Gunn went from a pedo writing at Marvel to the head of DC's film division. Something's going on here
Most journalists are indeed scumbags. They are not looking for the truth, but for clicks instead.
I like it when Superman is preachy.
General audiences didn't like it when it was Captain Marvel. They aren't going to like it when it's Superman.
>based Joe Kelly still makes edgy kids seethe after so many decades
But Superman still used his might to make himself right in the story.
Without killing anyone. Hence the millargays crying.
Only because he rigged the game ahead of time to gaslight manchester black. Ultimately. He didn't prove The Elite wrong. He won the fight. He didn't win the argument.
ok but can we all agree that is is that best superman movie ever made
the american way is imperialist but if you think that's collapsing america rather than a blow to your ego go off i guess lol
Gunn is a nepo moron and his movie gonna suck but his cult will lap it up
Clark should be strong enough to just quickly non-lethal a bunch of superpowered threats throughout the movie. Throw half a dozen jobbers at him that he just puts in a headlock like they're an uppity little brother.
Then the end is a normal human who committed a realistic regular murder and coverup, and Clark actually fricking ices the dude.
The only strange thing I’ve noticed is a group of people from these foreign countries, who follow every bit of Superman news just to talk shit. And it’s obsessive too. They always target Superman in particular. Whether it’s here, reddit, twitter, youtube. I didn’t care at first, but it’s the same usernames, same posts, same questions and images used. And they’re usually Snydergays, so something about this whole ordeal does seem…off and shillish.
Gunn thread? I will remind them.
Interesting logic also is she israeli?
Take a wild guess.
Yeah this thread is overrun with marketing shills and people who got payed to start conflict.
Removing the IP counter was a mistake. I’m out.
Truly, nothing makes nuCinemaphile seethe like Superman
There is always like 4 Superman hate threads up at even given time.
Superman never catch a break, is he.