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Golden Frieza should be at the top
gold frieza is weak as frick but officially frieza is at the top currently in his new "black" form one shoting gokus mastered ultra snowflake instinct and vegetas ssj3 broly moms gonna freak destruction form
how tf is frieza still around
Zamasu, a supreme kai that stole an alternate timeline gokus body
dbz is doing multiverse shit now?
>now
Black person this multiverse shit has been around for like 8 years
Alternate timelines are a thing since Future Trunks showed up back in the 90's.
got resurrected by his army using earth dragonballs and restored his body using new tech
then went off to train for the first time ever and got golden form instead of body transformation like cooler
got killed again by goku and was stuck in earth hell but recruited for a interdimenional tournament using the one day exception
frieza was essential in winning in one of the legit best scenes of all of dragonball teaming up with goku to beat the enemy
got his life back as a thank you and went back to conquering the galaxy and found on one planet a room of time and space and spend years powerleveling becoming the strongest of all. manga hasnt continued since
>manga hasnt continued since
is it on hiatus?
no it just hasn’t caught up to the movies yet, it will in a few months then we’ll have new material
>manga needs to catch up to the movies
what da...
The broly movie had only 1 page dedicated to it. Toyotaro is trying give himself time before the next arc comes out.
no officially its been telling the story of the gohan movie in manga form for like a year now
>manga hasnt continued since
Bullshit. There has been like 3 sagas since the ending of the tournament.
read before you post
I did.
no you havent
Yes I did.
last part is literally about frieza post tournament arc so no you havent
The manga continued after that part.
no it hasnt its been on break and they put in the latetst movie in manga form as filler ever since
Nah, you're just moronic.
>black frieza
>hate apes
>become one
Wew
when will manlets learn?
Majuub is strongest.
should i watch dragon ball super or whatever is after the majinbu arc?
watch the Battleof the God's and Ressurection F movies. If you liked it, pick up the show at the Universe 6 saga. Everything before that is just a bad retelling of the movies.
It's been close to 10 years and people are still trying to make sense of super? Are you legitimately fricking moronic?
If you like Dragonball skip super and ignore that it exists, you won't miss anything and you'll be better for it.
Toriyama and his apprentice are unimaginative, uncreative hacks.
Dude theres a gold version of freezer and a green version of goku on that shit and you ask that ? I will never watch that stupid shit, dbz ended decades ago and srar wars too.
>piccolo also got a upgrade and is now orange
Wow orange ? That's so cool and original. Lmao.
he didnt even get the new form through training he literally just asked shenron to unlock his hidden potential like the elder on namek did and now hes like super saiyan 4 tier
why did they abandon Gohan being better than Goku?
they didnt he got a new form in lastest movie and could be as strong if not stronger than everyone right now. piccolo also got a upgrade and is now orange
Since immediately after the Cell arc? He can have all the hidden potential in the multiverse, but it won't matter for shit if he's a lazy half human that always skips leg day.
dbz is iconic but i find myself missing the simplicity of og dragonball as i get older
It's a cartoon
Who's that green guy that looks kind of like goku?
HELLO!!! HELLO!!!
WHO IS THE GREEN GUY THAT LOOKS LIKE GOKU???
IS THAT GOKU?
WHY IS HE GREEN NOW?
HELLO!!!
Thank you
Where's homie Frieza?
chillin
killin
WAZZUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP
Powerlevels and constant asspull abilities are cancer. I will never understand how tranime fans can tolerate this shit.
Like Freeza is supposed to be this super powerful galaxy controlling being. Yet his power level is lower than random people on earth in the current day. The little mime guy is like 999% stronger than Freeza and would kill him in one hit. But Freeza was so powerful he could destroy planets. Actually people at power level of 100 could already blow up planets.
You go from 100 power level blowing up the moon to 9000 power level guy who can blow up a planet, and then you go into hundreds of millions of power level points.
How the frick are the Sayan people seen as these legendary warriors when they got beat by Freeza and got wiped out? And where were the next 10 villains hiding with their power levels in the billions? How come every time a villain appears they're like 100 times stronger than the last and just strong enough to beat Goku effortlessly, but weak enough that Goku will train and catch up to their power level? If Goku can train to beat the grey guy with the power level of 4000000, why didn't he train earlier and kill Freeza?
It's all so stupid.
it's not made for us numbers guys. it was written by a guy with autism who needed to submit a chapter a week, spent 5 days playing with toys and 2 days writing/drawing because he thought he worked better under pressure
and i guess he did, its made a lot of money
congratulations on growing out of shin en
now fully mature into an adult and accept it for the fun it is and that akira was just some dude making it up as he went along and you’d do the same if you struck gold like him
It's not fun though. It could have been dumb action where they simply fight. A new guy arrives and he is strong so we need to beat him.
But instead people stand around and go ''HUH! Your power level increased 3 times? YOU ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD! Now I will increase my power level 4 times!''
It's so moronic and the pacing is shit. You just go from a one sided beatdown to ''I was only pretending to be moronic'' powerup and now it's a one sided beatdown but the other guy is beating him this time, but oh shit, it was all according to the plan because the guy getting beat up is going to double his powerlevel.
Why can't they just fricking fight?
The original Dragon Ball doesn't have this problem. A fight would be turned around because some guy pulled a knife. Anyone could potentially beat anyone. It doesn't matter if you are the strongest fighter when someone pulls out a gun and shoots you.
With Dragon Ball Z the villain can be beat only by the main character or his son after this moronic back and forth and meaningless tired training arcs and doubling your power level during a fight.
>It doesn't matter if you are the strongest fighter when someone pulls out a gun and shoots you.
Goku has been literally immune to bullets since the very first episode
he literally got shot in the golden frieza movie and would have died if vegeta hadnt been there
He wasn't immune. A small pistol hurt him. I don't think there is a single moment in Dragon Ball where Goku just tanks bullets because he is ''immune.'' If someone pulls out a gun he doesn't want to get shot.
She had girl fingers. She couldn't pull the trigger as hard
He recently got fricked by a gun. Not a special gun, just a regular earth firearm. He was also fricked by a standard issue lazer rifle whilst being in super saiyan god form blue which is supposed to be an order of magnitude higher than anything else before it. I can't imagine how low someones iq has to be, in order to avoid having their suspension of disbelief rocked by these facts. It's just so moronic. Doesn't help that the animation and art direction for 90% of Super was disgusting trash.
not an argument
>not an argument
I don't know what you think I'm arguing. Everything I said is objectively true. You must be one of the aforementioned low iq super enjoyers. Good for you.
not an argument
I accept your concession.
He's immune to bullets when his guard/ki is up.
That's stupid but even if I accept that reasoning for the bullet at face value, how can he be powered up to something like SSB and be downed by a lazer rifle in that state. We're supposed to think this is some god level ki transformation with previously unheard of power, when they were already god level entities to begin with. Oh hey nevermind he looked away for a second so now he's as defenceless as bulma. It's moronic. This shit is for morons.
Because no matter how strong he gets he's still made of soft materials like flesh and blood and bone. What gives him his edge is his mastery of ki. You can't train to make your skin be harder than a a bullet, but can train to focus a nigh impenetrable energy shield around your squishy skin. That's also why they'd run into problems whenever they faced opponents like say Buu, that have an understanding of ki in additional to having special physical resilience. When his focus is up he's a God, but when it's down he's Hercule. I'm sorry if you don't like or accept the physics of the universe, but that's always how it's always been written.
>He recently got fricked by a gun
non canon
how many times do i have to say this
That's right, homeboy, dismissing the events of super is the best way of enjoying DB
You are mostly correct, but the reason the Saiyans were held in high regard was only by Frieza because he saw their potential, which is why he exterminated most of them. Everyone else in the frieza force just sees them as scrubs
But the powerlevel bullshit is exactly why Frieza is the best place to quit, Androids being stronger than Frieza is moronic
Imagine if Goku died vs Freeza and the series had established both their power levels as the biggest the series would ever get and slowed down afterwards
enemies are weaker than freeza but no more goku around
This is why Superhero is the best movie.
>yada, yada, yada, new Red Ribbon androids.
Okay, whatever, Goku exists.
>and Goku can't instant transmission back for reasons.
Oh shit, now they're a threat again.
saiyans had a very high average power level as a race, especially with oozaru form, compared to how there frieza force was mostly mutants with absurd power levels, like how krillin is astronomically above almost every last human
>which is why he exterminated most of them
new official lore is that the god of destruction ordered frieza to do it
it's like stan when rewriting for the scientologists
the only canon is before the author starts changing his mind 20 years later since he needs more money for model trains
>How come every time a villain appears they're like 100 times stronger than the last and just strong enough to beat Goku effortlessly
this is why i liked the goat wizard villian. he uses magic and drains the energy of planets to gain his power
even vegeta ends up complaining about powerlevels and god forms being useless against something like him. they also bring back buu for this arc and his talents being needed.
sadly at the end they ruined it and its just cell 2.0
This whole post reads like you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
>Like Freeza is supposed to be this super powerful galaxy controlling being. Yet his power level is lower than random people on earth in the current day.
Yeah they kept training and improving, crazy concept right?
>The little mime guy is like 999% stronger than Freeza and would kill him in one hit
According to?
>How the frick are the Sayan people seen as these legendary warriors when they got beat by Freeza and got wiped out?
Because they had genes that optimized them for fighting, doesn't mean bigger threats can't exist.
>And where were the next 10 villains hiding with their power levels in the billions?
Cell wasn't born yet, Buu was sealed away, etc.
>How come every time a villain appears they're like 100 times stronger than the last and just strong enough to beat Goku effortlessly, but weak enough that Goku will train and catch up to their power level?
Goku does not defeat any villain without help from others, he's usually badly outmatched even after training.
>If Goku can train to beat the grey guy with the power level of 4000000, why didn't he train earlier and kill Freeza?
What nonsense is this? You're skipping over a ton of arcs that took place between those fights.
There it is, the tranime gay has arrived
This homosexual is why tranime is the way it is
"Tranime" is the way it is because your IQ is far lower than you think and you struggle with something as simple as Dragon Ball, not because of the actual quality of the series.
Dilate and have a nice day troony homosexual
Obtain white skin, maybe then you could debate with me.
Because it's cool. If I want to read Shakespeare I'll go read Shakespeare. Dragon ball does not try to hide what it is which makes it iconic and more long lasting than whatever fotm anime or TV is out there.
Because power levels are bullshit, there's a good reason vegeta stopped using the scouter
Cell, buu and zeno have the greatest potential of them all
>Can assimilate enemies
>Infinite potential
They are the endgame of the series
Cell's potential seems limited through absorption, stupid as that is. Once he reaches perfect form he loses the ability. And yet just absorbing strong enemies in his first two forms isn't enough- he needs 17/18 to be complete and have his full potential.
Sayan Factor denies that.
That's different- not saying that Cell can't train to get stronger, but absorption only takes him so far. His structure is meant to absorb two specific beings, then any potential from then on out he has to achieve on his own.
Akira later retconned this and made it so that Cell didn't need it. He only needed the good old zenkai boost
Cell is basically an insect, so he works in the same way. Eats as much as he needs to while in a crappy larval form to go through metamorphosis, and then comes out as the beautiful "perfect" butterfly he was always meant to be. He can't just stay a larvae and keep absorbing to the moon.
Dragon Ball was good. Once characters start fighting gods I don't care anymore.
>ten years since BoF came out and Super began
>twenty years since the ending of Z aired on Toonami
powerlevels beyond the freeza saga are made up fanfic bullshit.
the dragon ball z formula was already getting boring by the time of Buu.
So if they have power level that high, why were they so shocked when they found out Goku is over 9000?
Omega shenron rekts them all.
The series has been a joke since Cell saga. Some cool scenes, but plot wise it was completely moronic.
But those color power-ups are a new low. It's so lazy.
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I didn't expect dbz to be this popular in americas
literally the most moronic looking anime that doesn't even pretend that adults have anything to watch here
just like nintendo, dbz is only popular because millenials grew up with it being on tv, on their own they have no redeeming qualities compared to their competitors
it's manlier and less gay than homosexual ass One Piece or MHA or Naruto after the initial arc. Get fricked.
just because you had your first ejaculation around the time you watched it doesn't make it "manly"
the only think that i want to know is the function that describes this
power levels are moronic. why even fight if you can just blow up the planet with a snap of your finger.
>why even fight in a boxing match when you could just blow up the stadium with some bombs?
Because they can't breathe in space.
Cooler tried just that and it backfired
They're usually fighting over wish granting dragon balls that can only exist when the planet does.