He was a lot harder to read in the pilot, which made him much more interesting and ambiguous.
NuLastor feels more like a generic villain with a radio host gimmick. Pilot Alastor was relentlessly charming while also having malice hidden underneath, while with NuLastor it's malice that takes the centerstage.
It's because they made him have a dumbfrick vendetta with Vox and Lucifer while also getting pissy if no one acknowledges him. He went from chaotic neutral to chaotic good cause they wanted to give him "character"
Pretty sure this was an ~~*Amazon*~~ change. Can't have what is essentially your god being portrayed as evil. Make him seem affable and harmless, a good dad with a sympathetic backstory. Gee, wonder who made that ~~*Creative*~~ decision?
(I :^)
Pretty sure this was an ~~*Amazon*~~ change. Can't have what is essentially your god being portrayed as evil. Make him seem affable and harmless, a good dad with a sympathetic backstory. Gee, wonder who made that ~~*Creative*~~ decision?
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Was he the character with the least changes to his design?
Viv said Lucifer is her favourite character to write so I doubt it was them
Lucifer is meant to be a creepy ass b***h clown that throws you off with his duck quirks and charm. But to Heaven, he’s the terror they must honor. And to Adam, a stalker that makes him go seto-incognito mode as some wacky bachelor that totally didn’t frick an entire army into existence with a special someone.
In a sense we most certainly were. However, I feel if instead of entirely removing what we have from the show, we should have a mix. Hear me out with this.
AHEM...
Have some of the show version of Lucifer as a form of "front" or "mask" he uses for a lot of people, even Charlie. Maybe even somewhat for Lilith.
Then, some of that fandom magic and pizazz we were excited for, a ruthlessly charismatic psychopath that is hopelessly self-centered, much like Lucifer was when he fell from God's grace.
I wouldn't even forego any of his "positive" traits he was written to have that he does in the Bible, try making him accurate, because when his character is explored, it's genuinely layered, when trying to understand Lucifer as an actual person/angel thingy.
I mean he still somewhat of his pride in the show even if it's subtle, notice how he never blames himself for anything, its always someone else's fault
This is the problem with fandom culture. The show will always inevitably take a backseat to the fandom and said fandom will dedicate itself towards making something far more interesting than the show itself (that often couldn't work within the confines of the actual project). Look at RWBY, large chunks of its own fandom now hate the show itself and what do they do? Endlessly dedicate themselves to fanfics and fanart that they feel is indicative of what should have/could have been. Given Hazbin was 4 years of hype based on a pilot? It's actually amazing how little it received in this regard.
>"Adam, look, I'm sorry, but what the frick?" Sera said, pinching the bridge of her nose with 2 fingers. >"Who is that..?" Peter asked, uncomfortably shifting. "I don't even need to check the list... whoever he is, hes definitely NOT on here." >"Yea nah its fine, he's a souvenir from Hell, hes with me." >"Why would you bring him here?!" snapped the Seraphim, looking at Adam with pure incredulity "You literally went down there to kill everything! Even if you wanted to save someone, why him?!" >Adam scoffed. "Ah come oooon Sera, lighten up! Hes harmless! I mean, hes not, but he will be! Hold on, I've got something here..." >With a snap of his fingers, Adam materialized a golden collar, with a little lock on the middle, and approached Alastor. >"No, stay away, I don't-!" >Lute grabbed him from behind and held him still while Adam snapped the ring around his throat. Instantly, he felt even weaker than he had before. It took serious effort just to sit upright. >"There! A little Collar of Binding and hes powerless! Can't so much as bite me!" >The Radio Demon inavdertently proved his point when he tried to rise to attack Adam, and yelped with confusion as he suddenly twisted away at the last moment and sprawled on the ground. >"Neat huh? Yea, the magic won't let him attack me, he'll literally throw himself aside at the last moment, and it also makes it so he can't use any of his demonic powers. He's like a mortal, except worse! Haha!" >"So... why not just kill him?" asked Sera. >"Because hes... look, I don't want to be here all day. I got Lucy's little girl, see, right here." >Lute threw Charlie down on the ground in front of the throne, with Vaggie's head. When Charlie saw that, she wailed and cried like her whole world was gone... because it was. >"Tell you what," Adam said. "I got Lucy's daughter, so I just hand her over unharmed, and you let me keep him. Deal?"
..."Deal." Sera said reluctantly.
Previous entries because I forgor the arrows (Its a story where Adam wins in the finale and decides to keep Alastor as a pet. Humiliation stuff.
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>Alastor leaned on Lute as he walked through the streets of gold and palaces of saints and heroes of virtue, eyes down, hopeless and bitter. Would the humilation ever end? >People gave them weird looks as they went by but, it was Adam, so everyone assumed it was official business, and simply ignored the odd trio. >Eventually, after having walked off the main street for a while, they came to a big mansion, with statues of women with beautiful bodies in exorcist helmets standing in a large garden, filled with flowers and small animals. A little duck pond out front, painted gold and white, with Adam's signature A sigil wrought in burnished gold on the sterling silver front gate. >"Well, here we are! My little slice of heaven. Haha, get it?" >"I hate you." he said.
>He shrugged. "I think I'll grow on you, Alistan" >"ALASTOR!!!" he corrected, screaming it in his face. "MY NAME IS ALASTOR!!!" >"...can I call you Ally?" >"NO-" >"Awesome, alright Ally lets go, genocide makes me hungry. LUTE!" >She snapped to attention, performing a quick salute and standing stock straight. >"YES SIR!" >"Can you make me macaroni and cheese and chicken nuggets? Pleeeease?" >"RIGHT AWAY SIR." she replied, as they went through the gate and into the house, she stopped and held the door for him and his new... pet. >"Lute you're so freaking awesome, b***h." >"I know sir." >"Ok so Ally-" >"ALAS-" >"Ahp bupbupbupbup, shhh, daddy's talking. Now, ALLY... lets get you out of that silly suit I mean come on you look ridiculous in that." >Snapping his fingers, Alastor went from wearing his signature pinstripe red suit and slacks, to a dress up onsie meant to look like a deer (pic related, but no hood because he already has antlers. Oh and red. Just like imagine that but no hood and red) >"Much better!" >Alastor hid his face in his hands... hooves... whatever. "Kill me... please."
>"Adam, look, I'm sorry, but what the frick?" Sera said, pinching the bridge of her nose with 2 fingers. >"Who is that..?" Peter asked, uncomfortably shifting. "I don't even need to check the list... whoever he is, hes definitely NOT on here." >"Yea nah its fine, he's a souvenir from Hell, hes with me." >"Why would you bring him here?!" snapped the Seraphim, looking at Adam with pure incredulity "You literally went down there to kill everything! Even if you wanted to save someone, why him?!" >Adam scoffed. "Ah come oooon Sera, lighten up! Hes harmless! I mean, hes not, but he will be! Hold on, I've got something here..." >With a snap of his fingers, Adam materialized a golden collar, with a little lock on the middle, and approached Alastor. >"No, stay away, I don't-!" >Lute grabbed him from behind and held him still while Adam snapped the ring around his throat. Instantly, he felt even weaker than he had before. It took serious effort just to sit upright. >"There! A little Collar of Binding and hes powerless! Can't so much as bite me!" >The Radio Demon inavdertently proved his point when he tried to rise to attack Adam, and yelped with confusion as he suddenly twisted away at the last moment and sprawled on the ground. >"Neat huh? Yea, the magic won't let him attack me, he'll literally throw himself aside at the last moment, and it also makes it so he can't use any of his demonic powers. He's like a mortal, except worse! Haha!" >"So... why not just kill him?" asked Sera. >"Because hes... look, I don't want to be here all day. I got Lucy's little girl, see, right here." >Lute threw Charlie down on the ground in front of the throne, with Vaggie's head. When Charlie saw that, she wailed and cried like her whole world was gone... because it was. >"Tell you what," Adam said. "I got Lucy's daughter, so I just hand her over unharmed, and you let me keep him. Deal?"
..."Deal." Sera said reluctantly.
The costume choice or the pedantry of explaining the outfit twice?
I can't just have him be naked because Adam doesn't swing that way but him being in his full regalia and being treated like an actual pet animal just feels silly.
>"Ah come on, c'mere!" >Alastor yelped as he was roughly yanked back up. They were in the living room of the mansion, an 80 inch Plasma screen TV with every channel ever conceived was on the opposite wall, and Alastor was yanked up onto the couch where Adam sat. With the collar around his neck, he had very little physical options to resist, and so he just kind of ended up in the First Man's lap. >"I wanna try something..." >Reaching deep into the thick red hair on the Radio Demon's head, he dug in and scratched at the base of his ears, stimulating extremely sensitive nerves and making him feel weak in a whole different way. >"S-stop that..." he hissed. >"Ahhh? Did I find good spot? Awwww, does the wittle deer wike it when I scwatch behind his eawrs?" his captor said in a mocking baby voice that made Alastor seethe. >"No..." >As he continued Alastor couldn't help but melt into the scratches. Nobody had ever scratched behind his ears before... he'd done it himself, but normally he didn't like to be touched at all. That... particular spot though, oooohhhhh it felt good... made his head tingle all over and caused his leg to do a funny little twitchy thing he couldn't seem to stop. >Adam leaned over and called into the Kitchen "Lute, come here, you gotta see this!" >Poking her head out, she looked and started laughing. "Is his leg shaking like a puppy?!" >"Yea I know I couldn't believe it either!" >Alastor groaned. "I-I... am not... a-a-a... pet..." >"Awwwww, gwumpy little guy... make him some food too, I bet hes a hungry wittle man, yes you are, yes you are!" >He switched from the ears to scratching under Alastor's chin. He tried to bite him and succeeded only in biting his own tongue. >"I already told you that won't work... silly little guy..." >The humiliations were neverending, and he was plotting on how to escape, but just now, perhaps it was best to lay low. They would let their guard down somehow... and when they did... he would get out of here.
>Alastor leaned on Lute as he walked through the streets of gold and palaces of saints and heroes of virtue, eyes down, hopeless and bitter. Would the humilation ever end? >People gave them weird looks as they went by but, it was Adam, so everyone assumed it was official business, and simply ignored the odd trio. >Eventually, after having walked off the main street for a while, they came to a big mansion, with statues of women with beautiful bodies in exorcist helmets standing in a large garden, filled with flowers and small animals. A little duck pond out front, painted gold and white, with Adam's signature A sigil wrought in burnished gold on the sterling silver front gate. >"Well, here we are! My little slice of heaven. Haha, get it?" >"I hate you." he said.
>He shrugged. "I think I'll grow on you, Alistan" >"ALASTOR!!!" he corrected, screaming it in his face. "MY NAME IS ALASTOR!!!" >"...can I call you Ally?" >"NO-" >"Awesome, alright Ally lets go, genocide makes me hungry. LUTE!" >She snapped to attention, performing a quick salute and standing stock straight. >"YES SIR!" >"Can you make me macaroni and cheese and chicken nuggets? Pleeeease?" >"RIGHT AWAY SIR." she replied, as they went through the gate and into the house, she stopped and held the door for him and his new... pet. >"Lute you're so freaking awesome, b***h." >"I know sir." >"Ok so Ally-" >"ALAS-" >"Ahp bupbupbupbup, shhh, daddy's talking. Now, ALLY... lets get you out of that silly suit I mean come on you look ridiculous in that." >Snapping his fingers, Alastor went from wearing his signature pinstripe red suit and slacks, to a dress up onsie meant to look like a deer (pic related, but no hood because he already has antlers. Oh and red. Just like imagine that but no hood and red) >"Much better!" >Alastor hid his face in his hands... hooves... whatever. "Kill me... please."
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>"Adam, look, I'm sorry, but what the frick?" Sera said, pinching the bridge of her nose with 2 fingers. >"Who is that..?" Peter asked, uncomfortably shifting. "I don't even need to check the list... whoever he is, hes definitely NOT on here." >"Yea nah its fine, he's a souvenir from Hell, hes with me." >"Why would you bring him here?!" snapped the Seraphim, looking at Adam with pure incredulity "You literally went down there to kill everything! Even if you wanted to save someone, why him?!" >Adam scoffed. "Ah come oooon Sera, lighten up! Hes harmless! I mean, hes not, but he will be! Hold on, I've got something here..." >With a snap of his fingers, Adam materialized a golden collar, with a little lock on the middle, and approached Alastor. >"No, stay away, I don't-!" >Lute grabbed him from behind and held him still while Adam snapped the ring around his throat. Instantly, he felt even weaker than he had before. It took serious effort just to sit upright. >"There! A little Collar of Binding and hes powerless! Can't so much as bite me!" >The Radio Demon inavdertently proved his point when he tried to rise to attack Adam, and yelped with confusion as he suddenly twisted away at the last moment and sprawled on the ground. >"Neat huh? Yea, the magic won't let him attack me, he'll literally throw himself aside at the last moment, and it also makes it so he can't use any of his demonic powers. He's like a mortal, except worse! Haha!" >"So... why not just kill him?" asked Sera. >"Because hes... look, I don't want to be here all day. I got Lucy's little girl, see, right here." >Lute threw Charlie down on the ground in front of the throne, with Vaggie's head. When Charlie saw that, she wailed and cried like her whole world was gone... because it was. >"Tell you what," Adam said. "I got Lucy's daughter, so I just hand her over unharmed, and you let me keep him. Deal?"
..."Deal." Sera said reluctantly.
Alright so, taking suggestions, what happens next? After Adam makes Alastor curl up and sleep at the foot of the bed, I don't know where to go from there.
Is Alastor's mom like an actual character? Is she in the comics and does she have lore?
Adam makes him use a litter box
Kinda gross tbh I was thinking he'd just make him go outside like a dog.
Maybe cut to Charlie to see how she's holding up? Then cut back to Al waking up afterwards?
Good idea, probably will do that. I was planning on her being kinda lowkey forced into being the new admin of Hell and keeping track of all the souls that go there. Maybe she makes it a better place since shes in charge, maybe she plots for revenge, we'll see.
>maybe she plots for revenge
Hopefully. Her dad, GF, and friends are all dead, along with Lilith nowhere to be found. On the other hand, though, did Pentious respawn in this AU? Things could get very interesting if maybe a few of the others respawned too.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Hopefully.
I don't think it'd go well unless she bides her time, a lot. All her potential assets are dead.
I also dunno if they would have respawned in the AU, actually, considering it isn't canon precisely what caused it. I think it had something to do with what happens to Adam, so I don't think they COULD come back, but maybe? I'm trying to think of characters who could have, and I'm drawing a blank tbh.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I could see her being smart enough to realize that revenge would essentially be a suicide mission, making her pick her targets selectively. Going after Adam would be a very likely option, but what if she went after Lute instead? And she died knowing that Adam would have to live with the fact that he can't keep any woman in his life? But also not realizing this would inadvertently push Adam closer to Al?
3 months ago
Anonymous
I really did't want this to become gay romance so I hate how good of an idea that is. Might have to do it.
Adam forces Alastor to entertain him (ie put on a show or something or make him do tricks like a dog)
Yep, gonna probably do that too.
3 months ago
Anonymous
NOOOOOO DONT KILL OFF LUTE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
3 months ago
Anonymous
could be platonic stockholm syndrome?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Oooo yea that'd more fresh to write too. Gay smutfics are a dime a dozen.
NOOOOOO DONT KILL OFF LUTE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
What if Charlie captures Lute, is going to kill her, then Adam reveals he has Alastor, offers him in exchange for Lute's life, and then Charlie has to choose between revenge or the last friend she has? Bonus points if Alastor has gotten so used to being Adam's companion that he doesn't actually want to go with Charlie anymore...
3 months ago
Anonymous
I would like a happy end for everybody but I understand that's not always fun to write
3 months ago
Anonymous
I think it's too late for that in this AU, no matter what happens someone has to lose
Oh yea next segment I definitely will be having him notice his tail. In my headcanon he does have one, I mean he has ears, and antlers. Why not a tail?
Adam (deliberately) confusing his hooved mammals and bucking Alastor while he strains as hard as he can not to have Adam snap his weakened back like a twig because of how much of a fatso he's become
Definitely a possibility for tomorrow. Unfortunately I have to go to sleep now, I work overtime tomorrow and I'm waking up in less than 6 hours. It was worth it though to make something at least a couple people liked. 🙂
>After a few more minutes, Lute entered the room with 2 plates of Macaroni and Chicken Nuggets, and some meat for Alastor. >"I know demons like eating flesh... I didn't bother cooking it. Its strip steak." >The grumble in his stomach gave him away, and hesitantly, he took the steak. The healing tonic he'd had earlier had done its work well, he was feeling a lot better, and as he sunk his teeth into the meat, he felt his pulse slow a little bit. Just a tad less stress, just a little less pain. >With a surprise, he tasted salt, and pepper. The steak was seasoned... he felt absurdly grateful that Lute had bothered. >"You... seasoned it?" >"You think I'm some kind of fricking hack? Like I can't season a steak?!" she snapped, suddenly enraged. >"N-No my dear, not at all! I just didn't expect to be treated with any consideration... thank you." >Her expression softened and she huffed, taking off her helmet and tossing her white hair. >"You're welcome." >Alastor stared at her. >"...What?" >"I didn't know that was a helmet." >Adam pulled his off and sighed. "Yea, they're pretty sick huh?" >Alastor looked at Adam's face, then at his hair, and laughed. >"Pfff... nice hair." >"Thanks." he said as he switched the TV on, not at all understanding the sarcasm. >"He was mocking you sir." Lute said without looking away from the screen. >Adam snapped to look at Alastor, and frowned, pointing an acusing finger at Lute. >"I KNEW THAT! You think I didn't know that? I just... I-I wanted to make sure you got it! Thats why I didn't say anything." >"Yea sir, I got it." >For a moment Alastor thought he'd gotten away with it. Then Adam materialized a spray bottle and squirted ice-cold water on his face. >Alastor screeched and ran out of the room and around the corner behind a statue Adam had commissioned of himself. It was one of 5 in this hall alone. >"Hey! Ally! Come back! We're gonna watch Bambi!" >"N-" but Lute whipped around the corner and grabbed him before he could refuse
Awwww, I'm glad you like it! I'm enjoying making more casual banter between Adam and Lute and Alastor, we didn't get enough of either Adam or Lute imo, and hes really fun to write.
What do you like about it, I'm curious
Are you happy >Alastor was swallowing the last of his steak as he watched this... odd moving drawing show. >"This is a movie?" >Adam looked at him like he was crazy. "Yea, fricking- what do you mean "this is a movie" haven't you ever seen a movie before?" >"Not like this... I'm more a fan of Buster Keaton." >"... you're so lame dude..." >"Well... I didn't say this was terrible." >It had been a wholesome film so far, very nice little story, right now he watched as the little "Bambi" and his mom ventured out in the winter snow... it was charming. Reminded him of his own mother. >"Shit man, this is the worst part." Adam groaned. >Alastor was confused. Worst part? This was very quaint and enjoyable. They found spring grass and- >A gunshot in the woods. A gunshot, many years ago, deep in the forest south of New Orleans. >A hunter's rifle cracking the peace. "RUN! RUN BAMBI!" Flashes, running through the marsh, the shots striking trees, the baying of hounds panic, fear, dread. Don't hit me... don't hit me, please don'-. >The final shot, the sharp way his head had snapped up. Then he was laying there, broken, one word pounding through his perforated skull >"Mother... Mother... Mother... Mother..." >Her face as his limbs grew numb, and his body felt cold. >"Mother..." >Dimly, distantly, Alastor was aware that someone was calling his name. >It felt like there were tears on his cheeks. >Between the silent, racking sobs, they heard him muttering. >"M-Mother... Mother... I'm s-scared... Mother..." >Movie paused and forgotten, they knelt over him. Adam looked genuinely concerned. Even Lute looked at the weeping demon with. For the first time... he wasn't smiling. >He was on the ground, knees hugged to his chest, crying. >"M-Mother... p-please... I want to go home... Mother..." >Adam pet his head. "Hey, hey dude, come on, snap out of it. Its just a movie..." >Slowly, he felt himself start to calm down...
This is going to be emotional now I decided.
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Are you happy >Alastor was swallowing the last of his steak as he watched this... odd moving drawing show. >"This is a movie?" >Adam looked at him like he was crazy. "Yea, fricking- what do you mean "this is a movie" haven't you ever seen a movie before?" >"Not like this... I'm more a fan of Buster Keaton." >"... you're so lame dude..." >"Well... I didn't say this was terrible." >It had been a wholesome film so far, very nice little story, right now he watched as the little "Bambi" and his mom ventured out in the winter snow... it was charming. Reminded him of his own mother. >"Shit man, this is the worst part." Adam groaned. >Alastor was confused. Worst part? This was very quaint and enjoyable. They found spring grass and- >A gunshot in the woods. A gunshot, many years ago, deep in the forest south of New Orleans. >A hunter's rifle cracking the peace. "RUN! RUN BAMBI!" Flashes, running through the marsh, the shots striking trees, the baying of hounds panic, fear, dread. Don't hit me... don't hit me, please don'-. >The final shot, the sharp way his head had snapped up. Then he was laying there, broken, one word pounding through his perforated skull >"Mother... Mother... Mother... Mother..." >Her face as his limbs grew numb, and his body felt cold. >"Mother..." >Dimly, distantly, Alastor was aware that someone was calling his name. >It felt like there were tears on his cheeks. >Between the silent, racking sobs, they heard him muttering. >"M-Mother... Mother... I'm s-scared... Mother..." >Movie paused and forgotten, they knelt over him. Adam looked genuinely concerned. Even Lute looked at the weeping demon with. For the first time... he wasn't smiling. >He was on the ground, knees hugged to his chest, crying. >"M-Mother... p-please... I want to go home... Mother..." >Adam pet his head. "Hey, hey dude, come on, snap out of it. Its just a movie..." >Slowly, he felt himself start to calm down...
Finally getting to the good stuff.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I was sitting there thinking "Frick it I guess we'll say they watch Bambi thats funny, its about a deer and hes a deer and... and he loves his mom... and Bambi loves his mom... and he got shot... and Bambi's mom got shot... and... frick now I have to write this, this is a perfect scene its right there waiting for me."
3 months ago
Anonymous
And it was perfectly written in every way. Hopefully, since its heaven, they just call Alastor's mom over to try to get him back into the swing of things, since he is asking for her after all.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>And it was perfectly written in every way
Its very touching to have anyone describe anything I've made as "perfectly written",
that means a lot 🙂
Well put together, writegay.
I see a picture in my head and I describe it, nothing more too it really...
>Adam lifted the crying Radio Demon in his arms, and carried him to bed, feeling something like actual care for this... sinful degenerate. I mean, yea he was definitely a sinner, and he belonged in hell, but frick dude, how do you bully a guy who's just breaking down weeping in front of you? >Alastor had started to calm down, and while he wasn't smiling with his teeth anymore, he had managed to return to a sad, yet small semblance of a grin. >"That wasn't because of you." he said. "I'm not breaking down because you put me in this ridiculous costume and... belittle me..." >"Well then what the frick dude?" Why the fricking waterworks, I mean yea its a sad scene but-" >"The day I died. It was a sunny summer day, and Mother and I were having Gumbo for lunch under the oak out front." >Adam briefly felt the urge to ask what Gumbo was, but he felt like now probably wasn't the time >"Mother said that the shed out back smelled, and asked if I could go see if maybe an animal had died in there. Poor Mother, she would be crying all day if she had to bury some poor cat or possum." >"So I told her I would handle it, and she went in to do the dishes. That was when I pulled my Jowett-" >"Your what?" >Alastor sighed. "My pickup truck, around to the shed, and loaded in... ahem... the body." >"The body...?" >"Yes, the man I'd killed 3 days prior outside a bordello in the Red Light District." >Adam's eyes widened slightly. >"I will explain, but please, allow me to continue. Now, as I was saying, I loaded the body in the back, and drove into the woods. I dragged that fat... worthless... sleazy bastard what must have been a mile, and started digging." >"I didn't know that a hunter had seen me, and decided that today was the day to be a hero." >"I was just breaking ground when a shot zipped past my ear. I tried to run... but failed. And I died there. In those woods. I don't know if Mother ever even knew what happened to me." >"Why were you burying a body..?" Adam finally asked.
(Pic related is the truck mentioned. Manufactured in 1930, seems like the kind of thing Alastor might drive. Classy and sleek, and some room to dispose of corpses in back)
Nice. good job on making a butthole too, most people try making Alastor into some vigilante who dinna do noffin
3 months ago
Anonymous
Hope you don't mind
>"I killed people Adam. I killed a lot of people." >"But like, why?"
"When I was young, we were very poor. Father had walked out on mother when I was born, and she had to do whatever she could to stay alive, and to care for me."
Adam hesitated. "So you mean-" >"Whatever. She. Could. I don't remember when exactly it started. I could have been 6, maybe 8, young though, very young. I would turn on the radio, and try to drown out the souns of my mother being... used... in the next room. Some lecherous drunkard usually, abusing my Mother's body like it was his TOY." >"I grew up though, and I found work in the one thing that let me ignore the horror all around me. The Radio. I became the star speaker on my local radio show, and I made a lot of money... enough to get out of that cesspit apartment in downtown and into a real house, near the woods. I was happy there with my mother for a time. She kept asking me when I would bring some nice girl home..." he sighed, smiling sadly. "I didn't have the heart to tell her that what I heard as a boy made it hard for me to find any sexual desire in... anything. I didn't want to be anything like those men." >His eyes went dark. >"Those men were still out there. Those men went to those seedy parts of downtown every day, and nobody fricking cared... but I cared. I would wait outside those little dens of depravity, find those men, and kill them." >"...Did you ever actually get the guys who would go for your mom?" >Alastor laughed. "I don't actually know... I just knew that anyone who frequented places like THAT... deserved to die." >"What, just for getting their dick wet?" >Alastor's grin widened. >"For being lecherous fools, who were easy prey..." >The first man was speechless for a while, which in an of itself, was something of a first. >"You got issues man..." he finally said. >Alastor laughed. "Who doesn't? But I don't regret it. I'd kill them all again if I could... I just wish I could have said goodbye to Mother..."
. I wanted to give him a reason for his killings because the canonical lore says he "has a code" so I thought it would be neat to write it to be that he kills random horny dudes who go to strip clubs and brothels as a way to deal with the emotional trauma of his mom having to prostitute herself out when he was a kid to support them as a single mom in the 1930s. Its still obviously evil, but in his own twisted worldview, hes ridding the world of "deviants".
3 months ago
Anonymous
Certainly, it's quite good while you can still have some sympathy for him, he is still obviously a bad element.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It also can tie in to give a reason for his lack of sexuality, I just like writing things that all kinda come together and you can looking at them in different ways and see the situation at different angles.
>"I killed people Adam. I killed a lot of people." >"But like, why?"
"When I was young, we were very poor. Father had walked out on mother when I was born, and she had to do whatever she could to stay alive, and to care for me."
Adam hesitated. "So you mean-" >"Whatever. She. Could. I don't remember when exactly it started. I could have been 6, maybe 8, young though, very young. I would turn on the radio, and try to drown out the souns of my mother being... used... in the next room. Some lecherous drunkard usually, abusing my Mother's body like it was his TOY." >"I grew up though, and I found work in the one thing that let me ignore the horror all around me. The Radio. I became the star speaker on my local radio show, and I made a lot of money... enough to get out of that cesspit apartment in downtown and into a real house, near the woods. I was happy there with my mother for a time. She kept asking me when I would bring some nice girl home..." he sighed, smiling sadly. "I didn't have the heart to tell her that what I heard as a boy made it hard for me to find any sexual desire in... anything. I didn't want to be anything like those men." >His eyes went dark. >"Those men were still out there. Those men went to those seedy parts of downtown every day, and nobody fricking cared... but I cared. I would wait outside those little dens of depravity, find those men, and kill them." >"...Did you ever actually get the guys who would go for your mom?" >Alastor laughed. "I don't actually know... I just knew that anyone who frequented places like THAT... deserved to die." >"What, just for getting their dick wet?" >Alastor's grin widened. >"For being lecherous fools, who were easy prey..." >The first man was speechless for a while, which in an of itself, was something of a first. >"You got issues man..." he finally said. >Alastor laughed. "Who doesn't? But I don't regret it. I'd kill them all again if I could... I just wish I could have said goodbye to Mother..."
3 months ago
Anonymous
>It hadn't struck the Radio Demon just how tired he was until now >Why had he done that? Why had he admitted that to this stuck up pompous butthole? >But... not like it mattered. For a time, keeping an air of mystery had been important, but now, well, with everyone dead... it seemed pointless. >Lute entered the room, keeping a straight face, but Alastor's story had made her feel something. He was still a bad person, but what sinners had gone through on earth to make them what they were, it just wasn't fair. >She was glad her and her sisters had torn apart that pompous little shit, Lucifer. What he'd started in humanity, the sin he'd made them desire, it caused so much suffering every day. Like ruining the life of a small boy, in New Orleans. >"If your mother went to heaven, we might be able to find her... I don't know." she finally mumbled. >Adam nodded. "Not making any promises we can't keep, but like, I'll ask around. We'll see." >Alastor stared for a long moment. raising an eyebrow. "..Why would you do that for me?" >Adam got defensive. "I-Its not for YOU or anything! If your Mom is in Heaven, then she should get to see her son!" >For the first time all day, Alastor felt slightly hopeful. His mother had been a good and faithful woman, if anyone deserved to be in heaven, it was her. If he could see her again, and tell her everything, that he was sorry, he didn't mean to disappear, he loved her, it would make all this worth it. >"Well that would be nice..." he yawned, and flinched slightly as Adam reached for his ears. >He withdrew his hand and looked away. "Sorry, if you don't want to-" >"Actually..." he dipped his head towards the First Man and shifted his ears slightly forward. "I wouldn't mind a little scratch... >Adam complied, and he closed his eyes and sighed with bliss. >"You try, Lute! Its fun!" the Exorcist hesitantly gave him a scratch. He made a low little purring sound and leaned into it. Maybe he wouldn't leave right away after all...
3 months ago
Anonymous
>the ear scratch
c-cute...
3 months ago
Anonymous
Glorious
3 months ago
Anonymous
>As Alastor sprawled across the bottom of the bed, he felt himself drifting away into sleep. Too much had happened today, too much... being outmatched in combat for the first time, recovering from severe injury, dragged through different spiritual realms, given a full belly and an emotional panic attack to go with it, combined with being treated without a hint of fear for the first time in centuries, too much had shifted and changed. He was briefly thankful for the silly little costume they made him wear, mostly because it was warm and fuzzy, and would be great to sleep in. >As he was making himself comfortable, he felt Adam rubbing behind his ears, and Lute gently petting down his back. >"Its alright Ally, go to sleep, we won't let any mean hunters hurt you, right Lute?" >Lute huffed as Alastor began to snore softly. >"Why did he have to be all pathetic and shit and make us pity him?" >Adam sighed. "Tell me about it, now I don't even want to make him eat grass..." >"Well there's always tomorrow." she said, halfsmirking before she got undressed and slipped into an old T-shirt and sweatpants for sleep. Adam just went shirtless, with pajama pants. >"Can I be little spoon this time?" she asked hopefully. >"Ughhhh, fine..." he sighed, and crawled into bed above Alastor, who stirred, but didn't rise. >Adam wrapped his arms around his second-in-command and she leaned into him, closing her eyes. >"So do you like the new pet?" >"He's got a lot of baggage..." Adam mumbled. "But hes kinda fun." >She smiled as she went to sleep. "Taking him was your idea..." she reminded him. >"I know!" he whispered, back at her. "and soon he'll be our snuggly little buddy, just you watch..." he whispered. >"Anyway... goodnight Lute." >"Goodnight Adam..."
3 months ago
Anonymous
> Make him eat grass
they should definitely do that. Maybe make him wear a maid outfit or something next. or a nun outfit.
3 months ago
Anonymous
(Alright guys, fair warning. This is gonna be sad.) >Meanwhile... >Charlie was up to her ankles in golden and red blood, screams and carnage everywhere, Adam fighting her tooth and nail, when suddenly, hope! >Dad was there, he pushed the First Man back, driving him further and further, he was winning! >Just as the tide began to turn, a flash of black and white streaked across the blood-red sky and crashed into Satan. >Caught completely off guard, Lucifer went sprawling, trailing golden blood as he crashed into the dirt. >She heard herself scream as Lute drove down at him, and Lucifer, on the backfoot, parried desperately with his staff. He was the better fighter, but she'd caught him off guard. But how...? Vaggie had been dealing with her... if she was here, what had- >"Ch-Charlie..." >She turned around and felt relief wash over her. Vaggie was there, still alive and holding... why was she holding her neck? >Her hand fell away and a gush of golden angelic blood sprayed free, her pale skin and clothes stained as she fell to her knees. >Charlie ran to her side and caught her before she hit the dirt. No, no no no she couldn't have lost, she couldn't! It couldn't end like this! >"She... she got me... I-I'm sorry... I didn't fight h-hard... enough." >"No..." Charlie whimpered through the tears. "No its ok... you'll be ok... d-don't die on me Vaggie, I love you! PLEASE!!!"
"Charlie... I..." she reached to touch the Princess of Hell's face, to profess her love one, final time... and then her eyes got glassy, and she was still, arm falling limply to her chest. >As if on que, Lute came crashing to the ground a few feet away, rolling to her feet as Lucifer came on.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>She caught his staff with her sword, and they braced, eye to eye. >"I'm going to clip your wings little exor- AH!!" >Lucifer's taunt was clipped short as Adam's holy light struck him from behind, burning clean through his chest and leaving a hole the size of a dinner plate. >Naked shock played across his features as he staggered back, staff falling from limp fingers. >"Oh..." he mumbled. Then turned, and saw Charlie kneeling there, her lover's head in her lap, eyes wide as she watched her father die. >"Sorry... sweetie... I tried..." Then his knees gave out from under him, and he topped forward, to lay in the red and gold mud. >The tide had turned. She looked around in shock, taking it in as everything she ever loved and believed in was destroyed. >Angel Dust was still firing his tommygun when Lute's sword took him full in the chest. "This kinda penetration... d-don't feel so good..." >Husker was backing towards a wall, throwing his last card at the exorcist coming at him. It missed entirely. The axe she drove through his belly did not. "One last run of bad luck... f-figures..." the return stroke took off his head. >Nifty was roughly grabbed up, and squealed as the exorcist laughed and impaled her on a spear. >Pentious was cut apart by half a dozen angels trying to shield Cherri from their wrath. He was still fighting with a sword through his belly when the Aussie demoness' set off all her bombs at once, and killed herself, Pentious, and their 6 assailants in one raging fireball. >The cannibals routed to no avail. The Legions of Divinity cut them down as they fled, like wolves chasing sheep. Soon all of Hell was screams, blood, fire, and death. >Charlie simply knelt there, holding Vaggie's corpse. She fought when they came to chain her up, but a few rough punches to her face and she was too dizzy and in pain to do anything but cry while Lute bound her in chains and cut the head free of Vaggie's shoulders. >This was all her fault...
3 months ago
Anonymous
TOTAL CHARLIE REVENGE incoming
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Charlie... >All her fault... if she hadn't insisted on this stupid "dream..." >CHARLIE!!! >Sera's voice broke her daze. >Everyone was looking at her. An assembled council of high ranking angels had gathered, to decide what to do after the most recent, most... thorough purge in history. >"Remembering" she said numbly, face devoid of emotion. >"Right..." Sera said. "We were trying to ask you, do you feel as though you could run Hell now? After your father's... well..." >"Murder?" she snapped. >"...Death." the Seraphim replied, not meeting eye contact. >"Whatever..." she mumbled. "Can you just kill me..." >"No..." Sera said. "We need you Charlie. We need someone to rule. We need order, so nothing gets this out of hand again. >Part of her knew she was right. There would be more people in Hell, and someone would need to keep it controlled. Orderly. Someone to oversee everything... or this could happen again. >"5 years." >"What?" Sera was confused. >"No exterminations for 5 years... then I'll do it." >Sera hesitated, but one at the end of the table spoke up. He was a tall angel with wavy chestnut hair and a fair face. >"Give her as she requests. There has been enough of an extermination already, and there will not be another overpopulation crisis for some time. There is no reason to continue besides wanton slaughterlust. Bloodshed for bloodshed's sake is not our way." >Murmurs of agreement down the table, but another angel, with short curly blonde locks, and a hard, stern countenance, spoke out. >"I would say that this is not far enough, Gabriel. Adam does war for his own vengeance, but I would settle for no less than scourging of the damned plains of the Underworld. All Hellborn must be slain as well. Everlasting fire should be their only refuge." >Sera looked uncomfortable. "I don't know, Michael... we'll call a vote."
And so they did, and in the end, Gabriel won out, by a slim margin. Michael sat, stoic, yet Charlie could tell he was disappointed.
3 months ago
Anonymous
This makes me wish there'll be a high tier angelic character who wants Hell gone. Would be dumb if there isn't.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Next season we'll probably get something like that. They gotta have conflict somehow.
3 months ago
Anonymous
if it were an actual high tier archangel a vote wouldnt stop him from decimating hell to less than dust. Especially Michael. He could go down there drunk and on drugs, fight all of Hell with one arm and kill everyone in less than a minute
3 months ago
Anonymous
Michael probably could but until Big Daddy God says so, nothing of the sort will happen.
Why won't he say so?
"Mysterious Ways", b***h.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I kinda hope that Vivzie just keeps this in a psuedo-Catholic "heaven" idea and doesn't actually involve anyone besides saints and angels because if Jesus and God were in the show it'd be so sacreligious that it would become unwatchable.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Most likely correct.
Also, I hope she read James Blish's novels on a related topic.
It would amp up the grimdark.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Paradise Lost and Dante's Inferno are great reads for if you want to write HH fanfiction. There's a lot of stuff from those books you can headcanon into HH and it fits fine. Wonderful idea mine.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I just like the idea of how souls, angels and demons are explained to be a possible reality.
And the implication that, having this figured out, mortals could pop them like soap bubbles if given some time. (In the novels that time is not provided due to full-scale nuclear war).
3 months ago
Anonymous
Dante walked so Vivziepop could run
3 months ago
Anonymous
Dante would hate this show so much dude its unreal, though he might like Adam. He'd probably be grossed out by how carnal and curse-happy Adam is, but the sheer level of demon-hate is a strong vibe in The Inferno. His arc in that book is basically losing empathy and learning to be happy that everyone who is in hell is suffering.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Right now I like the show but I'm giving it so much benefit of the doubt that if I took everything in the script with a grain of salt, I could turn the Atlantic into the Dead Sea. There's some concepts that I find interesting like the angels not knowing what gets someone into heaven but zealous in the the belief they're right being a mirror of catholics and Christians who don't read the Bible but are quick to judge sinners for sinning more obvious than them. Or Lucifer being as cynical as he is because he only sees the worst free will has to offer. Or hell even the concept that the irredeemable can improve if they look for it. And I think it's interesting but S2 will make or break the series for me depending on whether this Vizie lady can follow up with it. Though admittedly I haven't seen Helluva Boss or researched the person yet, I just finished the HH a week ago.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Same. Also I hope they tone down the sex jokes. They became so tiresome that basically the only time I was smiling watching the show was either when Pentious or Adam was on screen. Everyone else was too horny or too close to other horny characters to be fun, and Angel Dust got old after like 3 episodes.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I began to like Angel Dust a bit more after I noticed he was cutting down on the sex jokes after his episode. Which is good on the writers to realize they couldn't make him do a 180 but glamorizing his porn star attitude after that might be a bit of a faux pas. But Charlie and Alastor swearing, while it did perk my ears up, didn't have the impact it should have because there's so much fricking swearing in this fricking show that my fricking ears didn't fricking notice that fricking Alastor fricking said frick at the final fricking episode. Even writing that sentence made the word lose meaning after a bit. I know the show is in Hell and therefore the humor needs to be a certain level of edgy. But the Hell in this show is basically just Detroit, I'm certain whoever does dialogue in this show can open a thesaurus every other episode.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Adam was one of the worst culprits when it came to spewing sex jokes though?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Adam was one of the worst
Different anon, but is he, though? Adam uses lots of coarse language and brags about his sexual prowess. Angel Dust's jokes are mostly innuendo and situational humour from other guys reacting to his come-ons. They're both lewd frickers but I can see why writing clever dialogue for Angel is harder.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yea but his intense chauvinism and violent hatred of literally everything else in the show made him feel fresh and enjoyable to watch.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Charlie left the meeting room, and Emily was by her side in an instant. >"Charlie, Charlie! Look... I heard what happened and... its just too much. I can't believe they killed all those people..." >"Of course they did..." Charlie sighed. "I should've done better, done something different. Maybe if I had been more lowkey... hadn't pushed as hard... things wouldn't have escalated... >Emily frowned and stopped Charlie in her tracks, holding her shoulders and looking into her eyes. >"Listen to me. You didn't do anything wrong. This was a crime... this was evil... I can't believe the others allowed this to happen... I can't believe Adam could go through with it... but I'm not going to just watch as it gets worse. I want to help. Please... I want to do something good." >Charlie thought about it for a long moment, and decided she needed allies... any allies. >"Just lay low for now... but if you want to help, tell me if something happens. If someone is coming, or you hear of them doing something to watch me... tell me. Thats what you can do." >Emily looked concerned. "What are you planning...?" >"I... I can't wage war on heaven." she said after a moment. "But if I can hurt... or kill Adam... maybe that would stop him from doing this again. I just need to find out how..." >Emily was conflicted. This would put her against everyone she knew... but... it didn't matter who she knew. She was an angel. She existed to do what was right... what Adam had done, wasn't. >"Ok... I'll let you know if I hear anything... good luck down there." >"I guess I'll go see whats left." she said, the portal to Hell opening behind her. >"Oh and Emily?" >"Yes?" >"Watch Michael closely... if he gets his way, its all over." >Without saying anything else, Charlie entered the portal, and stepped onto the grounds of her destroyed dream, to bury her dead friends, and to finally cry, where nobody could see...
3 months ago
Anonymous
Total ArchAngel Micheal Victory
3 months ago
Anonymous
Irl hell yes, in my story... maybe idk how sad I want it to be. Alastor, Adam, and Lute's dynamic is WAY more fun to write than grimdark Charlie though.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>charlie avenging her father by killing michael
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3 months ago
Anonymous
>Alastor woke up slowly, groggily. This wasn't his room... why wasn't he in the hot- >The battle. The fighting. Getting taken to heaven under Adam's yoke, the uncomfortable yet oddly comforting afternoon. The panic attack... the weird bonding experience, it all came back in a rush, and he groaned, stretching as he looked around the room. >The beautiful golden shine of heaven's early morning light was just coming through the window. Adam was snoring, and Alastor had been sleeping at his feet. Lute wasn't anywhere to be seen... but he could smell bacon and eggs, and pancakes... and felt his mouth water. >Water... water... oh, yea, a shower would be nice... >He crawled up the bed and poked Adam in the chest with his antlers a few times. >"Huh... wha- AH WHAT THE F- Oh right... Ally..." >"Would you stop calling me that?" >"Yea like... maybe, if I feel like it." >"I wanted to take a shower... if thats allowed." >"Oh uh, yea, sure... right in there..." he pointed to the door at the other end of the room and Alastor walked in, looking around at the large bathtub/shower combo, golden shower head and toilet, Adam's signature A on most of it, and a big mirror on the wall. Alastor took off his silly little deer onsie, and stepped into the shower, turning on the tap and sighing with relief as the warm water washed over him. >At the same time, Adam got up and stumbled into the adjoining bathroom down the hall to wash up for the day himself. >Lute, not realizing Adam was in the other bathroom, and not the shower, walked back into the bedroom, and opened the bathroom door with no warning. >"Adam, breakfast is- AH FRICK-" >"GET OUT!!!" Alastor snapped. >Lute slammed the door shut, then thought about what she'd seen. She hadn't gotten a good look but... she could have sworn... >She got down on her knees and looked through the keyhole. Holy shit. He had a tail. >Alastor had a cute little deer tail. >"ADAM!!! GET IN HERE!!!"
3 months ago
Anonymous
Adam and Lute treating Alastor like he’s an angsty son is hilarious.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Nothing snaps an edgelord back to normal faster than just not taking him seriously.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>TAIL
YES YES YES, IT BEGINS!
3 months ago
Anonymous
I figured "He has ears, so a tail is only natural, right?"
Besides, writing Adam and Lute teasing him about wagging his tail while hes trying to pretend to be mad and angsty is gonna be so fun
3 months ago
Anonymous
I wonder if Lute and Adam would be morning for Vaggie and the dead exorcist.
3 months ago
Anonymous
They'd be too happy with total victory to think about it much, and Adam literally ordered them to take Vaggie's head so I don't think he has any nostalgia for her.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You may think that, but Adam tried to make Vaggie realize the errors of her ways and comeback to Heaven. He also called her the best thing ever.
The fact Vaggie offended him and Lute so much are signs they truly did love her.
3 months ago
Anonymous
What? Adam watched as Lute gouged out her eye and ripped off her wings. He doesn't express any guilt for her or even send exorcists back for her or even had anyone watching over her while she was in Hell. He only went back for her after Sera told Adam to get Charlie under control. So he could weaken Charlie's position and make it harder to argue the merits of the Hazbin Hotel. Which worked, Charlie basically had to solo that entire trial and at the apex of her argument Adam dropped the angel reveal which stopped Charlie cold. Not that Sera was ever going to let the damned have an avenue of salvation or even stop the extermination but Charlie was able to reveal enough hypocrisy to sow discord in the heavenly court.
Point being I don't think Adam as we know him is a "good guy." Maybe he used to be but just as damned souls can get better, divine souls seemingly can get worse.
3 months ago
Anonymous
> Adam watched as Lute gouged out her eye and ripped off her wings. He doesn't express any guilt for her or even send exorcists back for her or even had anyone watching over her while she was in Hell.
He knew the duties and Vaggie went against them.
Adam and Lute quickly hindered her and left behind because she rebelled and they had to move on from her. It’s done swiftly and emotionlessly because they didn’t want to do it, but they had to.
They left Vaggie alone in Hell in the hopes that if she did see how Hell was normally like, she would’ve regretted her actions.
Remember, Adam has to let go everyone he ever cares about once God deems them as evil. Especially Eve. He’s too used to this, but it still hurts for him.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I mean if you want to believe that go ahead bro
3 months ago
Anonymous
Leave him, it's the Adamschizo
3 months ago
Anonymous
>He’s too used to this, but it still hurts for him.
He's portrayed as a narcissist, how is it supposed to be obvious to viewers that he actually secretly cares..?
3 months ago
Anonymous
A narcissist who wouldn’t say that his deeds made him good enough to enter and remain Heaven?
That’s a massive contradiction to his entire persona.
He often makes a lot of big claims and doesn’t actually indulge in them. He didn’t write down his name in his little papers, did he, mr. “I love putting my name on shit. It’s the best” Adam.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You’re thinking of things the wrong way. Adam and Lute are the angels who takes their duties to the uppermost extremes, which is what God desires and allows them to always come back to Heaven (the Cherubs establishes that God doesn’t play around or give a damn phony “good” personalities).
To God, Charlie is the perfect tool to test the Heavens and their faith on his judgements. So if the Angels went against Adam, it would ironically cause them to fall instead.
It’s like being against King David for performing God-ordained genocides and not being sure if he was good enough to be in Heaven. You deserve to be kicked out of Heaven for not being as good as David and for your lack of faith for God’s will and judgements. Because David would honor the father and you wouldn’t in his position.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>He came into the room still shirtless in sweatpants from sleep, toothpaste on still on his face. "Wha- what?! What is it- oooohhhh, did you walk in on deer boy in the shower? >"No- yes, look you won't believe this sir, but uh... he has a deer tail!" she said, giggling. >"b***h shut the frick up, no way dude." he said, grinning ear to ear and wiping his mouth. >"No seriously, for real! I thought you were in the shower so I walked in and... I saw it..." she suppressed another giggle. "Do you think it wags when hes happy or excited?" >"Haha frick that would be hilarious!" >"I CAN HEAR YOU!!!" Alastor's voice came from the bathroom, shower now off. >Lute quickly grabbed a spare pair of pants and a shirt (with Adam's A on it, ubiquitously), but not before cutting a decisively tail-sized hole in the butt of the pants. Then she opened the door just wide enough to put them down on the counter, and then retreated back, this time respecting his privacy and not looking. >There was a pause, and then an angry growl. >"I am NOT going out there with my tail exposed for you to gawk at!" >"Well those are the only clothes you're getting... so unless you'd rather be naked, get your skinny little ass out here and show Dad that tail! >"You're really going to make me aren't you?" he said after a sigh. >"Yes!" >There was another pause, and then Alastor stepped out, ears down, hair still damp from the shower, and his tail sticking out of the butt of the pants, bright red and bushy. >Adam fell over laughing and Lute actually said "Awww!" and Alastor could swear all the blood in his body went into his cheeks. >"This is EXACTLY why I hide it... everyone always reacts like this." >"But its so fluffy!" Lute said, pointing at it with a big grin. >"DUDE ITS SO FRICKING FLUFFY" Adam said through peels of laughter. >Alastor hid his head in his hands and groaned. >Yes, yes, I have a very fluffy cute tail, it is very adorable, yes, I know, can we PLEASE eat breakfast now..."
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Charlie spent months trying to get people to be slightly less awful. >Adam and Lute completely buck broke Alastor in a couple of days like he’s their bratty son.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I mean if you remember, it was established early on that he has a collar on that doesn't let him do any of his freaky demon shit so he kinda just has to sit there and take it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Adam and Lute knows that the Apple makes Alastor feel shame from nakedness. They themselves don’t mind it. >They take advantage of it.
Such a wild couple.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Cant wait for them to force him to use/ learn to use a cell phone.
3 months ago
Anonymous
that has got to be a massive shirt if its Adams if anything Alastor is more the size of Lute if anything.
3 months ago
Anonymous
In their fight scene wasn't Adam like, slightly shorter?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Alastor can change his height with his powers. and all the scenes with charlie he towers over her so. alastor is a shortie.
3 months ago
Anonymous
(Hey lets just pretend that Alastor isn't also in a deal in this AU because even though everyone thinks its Lillith we don't know anything about her really so even if it is I don't wanna make up a bunch of bs about an established character and also toss that into this plot) >Breakfast managed to go on for 5 minutes in polite silence before Adam said "So does it wag when you're happy?" >Alastor's fork began to bend in his hand and his teeth creaked as he tensed with rage. >"One more question about my tail and I'm going to throw this breakfast clean through your TV." >"I could just get a new one in like literally a snap of my fingers but fine, whatever." Adam said, shrugging. "You know I might go ask around town about your mom today. See if I can find her." >Alastor didn't realize his tail started wagging excitedly. "Really?" >Lute noticed and grinned knowingly. "You'd like that huh?" >"Well yes I-" he followed her eyes and blushed again. "DAMN IT" >Adam started laughing again and Alastor stood up to storm off but the First Man managed to calm himself down. >"Hey hey come on haha, hahaha frick... sorry... its just really funny how flustered you get..." >The Radio Demon sighed and sat down. "Yes I suppose I would probably laugh too... but I am not accustomed to being the subject of the joke." >"Well, for what its worth Alastor, its all in good fun." >"...you used my name." >"Well yea!" he said, grabbing Alastor by the neck and nuzzling his antlered head with his knuckles >"We're buddies, right? I'm your owner, and you're my little deer guy!" >Alastor smiled a little, despite himself. Now he knew how Husker felt...The irony made him laugh. >When he laughed, Adam laughed, and by the end, he felt a little better. >"Do you really think you can find her? My mother?" >"Hey, if anyone can do it, its me!" he said. "You think you'll be alright with Lute here for a little while?" >She smirked. "Hes not going anywhere, I can tell you that for sure..."
3 months ago
Anonymous
when are they gonna make him eat grass? also lol.
3 months ago
Anonymous
All in good time anon (Probably in a couple greentexts, I'm gonna make em hang out in the garden)
3 months ago
Anonymous
3 months ago
Anonymous
Ofc fren! I'll be back from the gym soon. I was just waiting for the next thread
3 months ago
Anonymous
Anon can you compile all you've written so far?
3 months ago
Anonymous
I've already done so, been collecting everything in a notepad file, just in case. I just don't know where to post it...
3 months ago
Anonymous
Just post it on AO3
3 months ago
Anonymous
Okay, just for compiling purposes though. The format of the story is kinda set in grentext at this point I feel like it'd be jarring to swap it to standard format.
3 months ago
Anonymous
No biggie, some fics on AO3 look like they are chatrooms.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Cinemaphile writegays used to use pastebin. That or one of its copycats could work.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I think they want you to pay for an account now
3 months ago
Anonymous
Oh wow. I'f heard they pissed a bunch of people off for deleting proprietary code, but not that. Guess they're totally pozzed.
3 months ago
Anonymous
My complaint with pastebin is a lack of support for things like italics
I prefer to just copy and paste from my google doc and be done
Okay, just for compiling purposes though. The format of the story is kinda set in grentext at this point I feel like it'd be jarring to swap it to standard format.
It's not that jarring but it's annoying to delete all the > but personally I love the style of greentexts anyway because it lends itself to a simpler style good for the flow
3 months ago
Anonymous
I think that's primarily why I've been so good at just spamming new parts to this, when I write fanfiction in standard form, I feel a compulsion to explain and describe everything, and it becomes mentally exhausting to the point where I end up becoming overwhelmed and abandon the project.
Keeping everything focused around character interaction and dialogue makes the writing way more fun, imo.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Exactly anon exactly
My "real" fics get out of control so fast I'm 4k deep in something that I wanted to be a quick smut fic but I never learn my lesson lol
Here I can just greentext as anon and if something sucks or I make a mistake I don't feel the same amount of pressure I put on myself
It's a rewarding and not a bad pressure but sometimes I just wanna unleash the autism RAW
3 months ago
Anonymous
Wait till the next thread then lol, it will be better
3 months ago
Anonymous
>She caught his staff with her sword, and they braced, eye to eye. >"I'm going to clip your wings little exor- AH!!" >Lucifer's taunt was clipped short as Adam's holy light struck him from behind, burning clean through his chest and leaving a hole the size of a dinner plate. >Naked shock played across his features as he staggered back, staff falling from limp fingers. >"Oh..." he mumbled. Then turned, and saw Charlie kneeling there, her lover's head in her lap, eyes wide as she watched her father die. >"Sorry... sweetie... I tried..." Then his knees gave out from under him, and he topped forward, to lay in the red and gold mud. >The tide had turned. She looked around in shock, taking it in as everything she ever loved and believed in was destroyed. >Angel Dust was still firing his tommygun when Lute's sword took him full in the chest. "This kinda penetration... d-don't feel so good..." >Husker was backing towards a wall, throwing his last card at the exorcist coming at him. It missed entirely. The axe she drove through his belly did not. "One last run of bad luck... f-figures..." the return stroke took off his head. >Nifty was roughly grabbed up, and squealed as the exorcist laughed and impaled her on a spear. >Pentious was cut apart by half a dozen angels trying to shield Cherri from their wrath. He was still fighting with a sword through his belly when the Aussie demoness' set off all her bombs at once, and killed herself, Pentious, and their 6 assailants in one raging fireball. >The cannibals routed to no avail. The Legions of Divinity cut them down as they fled, like wolves chasing sheep. Soon all of Hell was screams, blood, fire, and death. >Charlie simply knelt there, holding Vaggie's corpse. She fought when they came to chain her up, but a few rough punches to her face and she was too dizzy and in pain to do anything but cry while Lute bound her in chains and cut the head free of Vaggie's shoulders. >This was all her fault...
If you're wondering, Charlie didn't see it happen, but in this AU, the butterfly effect change that caused this is that when Lute smashed Vaggie's head into the table in their fight, she ended that combo by slashing her throat down to the bone. Once Vaggie was incapacitated, Lute was free to assist Adam in fighting Lucifer, and together, combined with the element of surprise (as Lucifer was already engaged fighting Adam when Lute blindsided him) they were able to kill him. Once Lucifer fell, the exorcists rallied, and the Hellborn began to lose hope. It was just mass rout and ensuing mopup butchery after that.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Just a little correction
Lucifer =/= Satan in this setting
3 months ago
Anonymous
oof. I like to mix up terms for characters in my writing because I've found that when you use a character's name repeatedly it can become tiresome to read it, and when you just use pronouns in scenes involving many characters, it can be confusing.
My B.
3 months ago
HELP
Fun fact; in most settings regarding Christianity, Satan is in fact NOT Lucifer whatsoever, but rather is a form of "suffering personified" for those that are sentenced, or rather cursed to the depths of Hell.
So yes, you're correct that Satan is not Lucifer in this setting, that's also accurate to Christianity overall.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>She caught his staff with her sword, and they braced, eye to eye. >"I'm going to clip your wings little exor- AH!!" >Lucifer's taunt was clipped short as Adam's holy light struck him from behind, burning clean through his chest and leaving a hole the size of a dinner plate. >Naked shock played across his features as he staggered back, staff falling from limp fingers. >"Oh..." he mumbled. Then turned, and saw Charlie kneeling there, her lover's head in her lap, eyes wide as she watched her father die. >"Sorry... sweetie... I tried..." Then his knees gave out from under him, and he topped forward, to lay in the red and gold mud. >The tide had turned. She looked around in shock, taking it in as everything she ever loved and believed in was destroyed. >Angel Dust was still firing his tommygun when Lute's sword took him full in the chest. "This kinda penetration... d-don't feel so good..." >Husker was backing towards a wall, throwing his last card at the exorcist coming at him. It missed entirely. The axe she drove through his belly did not. "One last run of bad luck... f-figures..." the return stroke took off his head. >Nifty was roughly grabbed up, and squealed as the exorcist laughed and impaled her on a spear. >Pentious was cut apart by half a dozen angels trying to shield Cherri from their wrath. He was still fighting with a sword through his belly when the Aussie demoness' set off all her bombs at once, and killed herself, Pentious, and their 6 assailants in one raging fireball. >The cannibals routed to no avail. The Legions of Divinity cut them down as they fled, like wolves chasing sheep. Soon all of Hell was screams, blood, fire, and death. >Charlie simply knelt there, holding Vaggie's corpse. She fought when they came to chain her up, but a few rough punches to her face and she was too dizzy and in pain to do anything but cry while Lute bound her in chains and cut the head free of Vaggie's shoulders. >This was all her fault...
>This kinda penetration... d-don't feel so good...
3 months ago
Anonymous
Im suprised that Adam didnt take Angel Dust as well. he is cute.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I just really didn't want to write Angel Dust because to write him accurately I have to come up with a preferably homosexual sex joke like every 2 lines.
3 months ago
Anonymous
truly the hardest part of being a writegay. keep it up though, the story is getting good.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Indeed. I feel obligated to portray the characters as accurately as possible. Its a struggle.
I cast my vote to his mother (eventually) forgiving him. it is heaven after all
i like option 2, but i would leave the door open to the mom potentially forgiving him like what [...] said, you don't want to get too grimdark and depressing
I'm probably gonna go with mostly option 2 because of what
[...]
Yeah. Go with option 2. Headcanoning a huge chunk of a character's background by introducing 100% OC versions of their parents/siblings is usually a mistake anyway. Better to leave Momlastor vague.
said but I might still have a part towards the end where he reconciles with his mom. Would be sweet.
Charlie overall was an improvement (don't give a frick that she's not "soft" anymore), Vaggie's new outfit is better, Keith David as Husk is good. Roman Blake does good as Angel.
(Pic related is the truck mentioned. Manufactured in 1930, seems like the kind of thing Alastor might drive. Classy and sleek, and some room to dispose of corpses in back)
>Alastor apparently is not particularly big on oral hygiene, with Vivziepop describing his breath as "not good"[73], and Faustisse making reference to his having black gums.[note 9]
It would make sense. Sinners I imagine are naturally not good people, so why would most of them give a shit when they're already in Hell?
Not to mention someone like Alastor having bad breath would make a lot of sense, I can imagine human flesh doesn't have the most amazing after-smell when digesting inside the stomach of a deranged serial killer cannibal.
I hope the Voxsis is still around and sees this sorry it took so long also this turned out way longer than I intended but LOVE VOX! >Be you, fourth Vee >Vox has been especially stressed with work lately and so you conspire with Val and Vel to get him to go on a vacation to a newly opened resort >The resort is called Earthslice and offers a variety of vacation packages in a huge controlled environment, mainly relying on holograms and a giant screen that overtakes nearly the entire room and the whole ceiling to create the illusion of being somewhere in the world of the living >Vox doesn't really seem to care where you "go" and chooses "the beach" >It's your responsibility to vacation with him and make sure he enjoys himself! >You enter the beach room together, which has authentic sand for flooring, and there's a bright blue sky cast overhead >Vox doesn't seem too thrilled, but you're amazed how realistic it is...until you try to lean against a palm tree to adjust your sandals and fall flat on your ass >"Don't hurt yourself." He laughs at you and sits on a reclining beach chair, relaxing back and doing something on his phone. >He's dressed up for a vacation in a gaudy Hawaiin shirt and shark patterned swimming trunks but he is wearing the same stressed expression as always. >He does look very, very handsome though...it's rare to see him exposing this much skin >You sit next to him on your knees and lay your head on his shoulder. "What are you doing?" >He's got an app open detailing the stock market and a bunch of calculations with business lingo that you don't entirely understand because that stuff isn't your job >"Voooox," you whine, lightly butting your head against the side of his monitor. "C'mon you're supposed to be relaxing!" >"How?" He doesn't even looking at you. "This whole beach is fricking fake anyway." >"Voooox." >"Whaaaat?" He says in a mocking tone.
"Sweetheart, look, I know you guys are well meaning sending me here but I can't be convinced by this fake fricking environment. It doesn't even smell like the ocean." >"You can't even smell, though." >"That's not the point." He sits up with a sigh and motions out to the virtual ocean, the island in the distance, and the floating silhouettes of seagulls. "The water hologram is playing on a three second loop and look the illusion of the wind swaying the palm trees isn't consistent with the bird shadows. This whole thing is a giant scam. Can you really not tell?" >"Um...I never actually saw the ocean back on Earth. And I wasn't thinking that hard about it." Somehow, you feel stupid for trying to help because now that he's pointed out the inconsistencies you can't unsee them. >"Really?" Vox puts his phone in the drink holder and sits up, resting a hand on top of your head. "You never went to the ocean ever?" >"No." >"I used to go." He looks out towards the hologram, no doubt remembering the real thing. "At least a few times a year." >"Really? That often?" It was an unspoken rule that none of you really spoke about your human lives--you certainly didn't want to go into detail, but it was just the two of you right now. >Vox replies in a quiet voice, "yeah. That often." >Maybe it could be a special secret. >"Were you super important?" You ask, reaching up and putting your hand on top of his. "I mean. You've always been super important, but y'know..." >"Well," he smirks down at you, his ego buzzing back to life with a crack of his speakers. "Of course I was. I'd visit the most expensive resorts--real resorts--and I'd be the guest of fricking honor thanks to the influence of my...the empire that I worked so hard to build. Yeah, we'll call it that." >His voice trails off again. He doesn't want to tell you too much. >That's alright.
>He clears his throat. "Anyway, I had so much of the real thing back on Earth I don't care for this fake shit and it isn't gonna convince me or help me relax. Besides, if this is the beach, where are the sexy women? The beach prostitutes? That was half the fun of even going." >You playfully elbow him and mock offense. "I'm right here!" >"You're just one sexy woman." >"Just?! I'll show you..." You pull the lever on his chair, forcing it from lounge to sitting position, and crawl between his legs. >He watches you with a trickle of red saliva dripping down his mouth, resting the side of his head on his palm. >You nuzzle your face against the crotch of his shorts, satisfied that he's already half hard. >You waste no time pulling the waistband down, freeing his huge blue wiener and taking the head into your mouth. >You work your hand along the shaft as you swirl your tongue along the inside of his foreskin with an exaggerated hum. >"Yeah, j-just like that..." Vox presses the back of your head and shoves his wiener into the back of your throat. >It's big enough to choke you now, but you happily take him stabbing your esophagus >It's thick and blocking your airway, so you bob your head and have to space out your breathing >"Frick..." He hisses and starts thrusting his hips ever so slightly to meet your rhythm "Such a good little girl, yes you are..." >He's praising you like you're some sort of small animal which is your favorite kind of praise. >You can't fight gagging against him as his length starts thrusting into your throat, stretching it painfully, but you persist despite the tears flowing down your face >You can feel his flesh pulsing and slide your hands up his shirt to feel his chest. >His abs are always so tight and his muscle is just the right amount of lean >Vox is so sexy and you love him so much you're so happy--so honored--to be taking his dick down your throat
>The salty taste of his precum at the end of your tongue has you swirling it around his girth the best you can >All at once he pushes your head back and pulls out of your mouth, thick threads of your saliva still stuck to him >He aims directly at your face and cums, spurting his light blue seed all over your face and down your chest >His face glitches out for a split second as he strains and pushes out every drop. >You let it happen, shutting your eyes and whimpering because you had wanted him to cum in your mouth! >But you won't be a brat about it. Not today. >Vox chuckles, his audio ebbing between static and clear >He sits back and sighs, his shoulders slouching, and he finally looks relaxed for the first time today >You wipe your eyes and stare at him, offering a small smile. "Was that 'beach prostitute' enough?" >He laughs affectionately, pixel hearts flashing in his eyes. "Yes." >Gliding your tongue along the collection of cum in your hand, he nudges you with his knee. "Go wash it off." >"Oh. Right." >You stand up and run over to the shore, kicking off your sandals and running waist deep into...nothing. >Pixels dance across your skin. >Vox bursts out laughing, holding his sides, and although you cross your arms and puff your cheeks at first you can't hold it--you giggle into your fist. >He got you! >You walk back over next to him and sit on his lap. "Okay. You got me." >"You should've seen the look on your face." >An imp employee emerges from the set of doors at the end of the room, saying nothing but laying a stack of fresh towels by the chair and quickly scurrying back off. >Of course they'd have cameras here...you wonder if Vox had really allowed the staff to watch that whole incident.
>He wraps his arm around you and pulls you close to him, grabbing a towel and rubbing it along your chest. >When no one is looking, Vox is a great lover. Sometimes. >"Vox, Tell me more about what the real beach is like?" >"I'd rather just show you, Sweetie. One day." >One day, yes...when the Vees have achieved their ultimate goal and Heaven and Hell are all theirs--yours--overtaking the Earth will be a walk in the park!
The End<3
"Sweetheart, look, I know you guys are well meaning sending me here but I can't be convinced by this fake fricking environment. It doesn't even smell like the ocean." >"You can't even smell, though." >"That's not the point." He sits up with a sigh and motions out to the virtual ocean, the island in the distance, and the floating silhouettes of seagulls. "The water hologram is playing on a three second loop and look the illusion of the wind swaying the palm trees isn't consistent with the bird shadows. This whole thing is a giant scam. Can you really not tell?" >"Um...I never actually saw the ocean back on Earth. And I wasn't thinking that hard about it." Somehow, you feel stupid for trying to help because now that he's pointed out the inconsistencies you can't unsee them. >"Really?" Vox puts his phone in the drink holder and sits up, resting a hand on top of your head. "You never went to the ocean ever?" >"No." >"I used to go." He looks out towards the hologram, no doubt remembering the real thing. "At least a few times a year." >"Really? That often?" It was an unspoken rule that none of you really spoke about your human lives--you certainly didn't want to go into detail, but it was just the two of you right now. >Vox replies in a quiet voice, "yeah. That often." >Maybe it could be a special secret. >"Were you super important?" You ask, reaching up and putting your hand on top of his. "I mean. You've always been super important, but y'know..." >"Well," he smirks down at you, his ego buzzing back to life with a crack of his speakers. "Of course I was. I'd visit the most expensive resorts--real resorts--and I'd be the guest of fricking honor thanks to the influence of my...the empire that I worked so hard to build. Yeah, we'll call it that." >His voice trails off again. He doesn't want to tell you too much. >That's alright.
>He clears his throat. "Anyway, I had so much of the real thing back on Earth I don't care for this fake shit and it isn't gonna convince me or help me relax. Besides, if this is the beach, where are the sexy women? The beach prostitutes? That was half the fun of even going." >You playfully elbow him and mock offense. "I'm right here!" >"You're just one sexy woman." >"Just?! I'll show you..." You pull the lever on his chair, forcing it from lounge to sitting position, and crawl between his legs. >He watches you with a trickle of red saliva dripping down his mouth, resting the side of his head on his palm. >You nuzzle your face against the crotch of his shorts, satisfied that he's already half hard. >You waste no time pulling the waistband down, freeing his huge blue wiener and taking the head into your mouth. >You work your hand along the shaft as you swirl your tongue along the inside of his foreskin with an exaggerated hum. >"Yeah, j-just like that..." Vox presses the back of your head and shoves his wiener into the back of your throat. >It's big enough to choke you now, but you happily take him stabbing your esophagus >It's thick and blocking your airway, so you bob your head and have to space out your breathing >"Frick..." He hisses and starts thrusting his hips ever so slightly to meet your rhythm "Such a good little girl, yes you are..." >He's praising you like you're some sort of small animal which is your favorite kind of praise. >You can't fight gagging against him as his length starts thrusting into your throat, stretching it painfully, but you persist despite the tears flowing down your face >You can feel his flesh pulsing and slide your hands up his shirt to feel his chest. >His abs are always so tight and his muscle is just the right amount of lean >Vox is so sexy and you love him so much you're so happy--so honored--to be taking his dick down your throat
>The salty taste of his precum at the end of your tongue has you swirling it around his girth the best you can >All at once he pushes your head back and pulls out of your mouth, thick threads of your saliva still stuck to him >He aims directly at your face and cums, spurting his light blue seed all over your face and down your chest >His face glitches out for a split second as he strains and pushes out every drop. >You let it happen, shutting your eyes and whimpering because you had wanted him to cum in your mouth! >But you won't be a brat about it. Not today. >Vox chuckles, his audio ebbing between static and clear >He sits back and sighs, his shoulders slouching, and he finally looks relaxed for the first time today >You wipe your eyes and stare at him, offering a small smile. "Was that 'beach prostitute' enough?" >He laughs affectionately, pixel hearts flashing in his eyes. "Yes." >Gliding your tongue along the collection of cum in your hand, he nudges you with his knee. "Go wash it off." >"Oh. Right." >You stand up and run over to the shore, kicking off your sandals and running waist deep into...nothing. >Pixels dance across your skin. >Vox bursts out laughing, holding his sides, and although you cross your arms and puff your cheeks at first you can't hold it--you giggle into your fist. >He got you! >You walk back over next to him and sit on his lap. "Okay. You got me." >"You should've seen the look on your face." >An imp employee emerges from the set of doors at the end of the room, saying nothing but laying a stack of fresh towels by the chair and quickly scurrying back off. >Of course they'd have cameras here...you wonder if Vox had really allowed the staff to watch that whole incident.
>He wraps his arm around you and pulls you close to him, grabbing a towel and rubbing it along your chest. >When no one is looking, Vox is a great lover. Sometimes. >"Vox, Tell me more about what the real beach is like?" >"I'd rather just show you, Sweetie. One day." >One day, yes...when the Vees have achieved their ultimate goal and Heaven and Hell are all theirs--yours--overtaking the Earth will be a walk in the park!
The End<3
Oh that was me!!!! Thank you anon, this is really good. I always look forward to your writings!
I would actually prefer if it wasn't porn, but why gay? It doesn't list her as having any sexuality at all on the wiki
Well what I'm writing already has porn in it and gay because my reader character is a girl but that said the Vees are a poly so I'd say I think she's bisexual she'd just be doing gay stuff with reader
Anyone wanna help me name an OC? Dubs names him. >Demonic Brown bear labor organizer >Yakuza dress, Italian attitude. >Makes his friends, allies, even vague associates feel like rock stars when he walks in the room. >Realm of influence slowly growing. >Lean Sumo strong. >Carries club made from some fake tough guy's demon beetle horn.
I need this episode to be a real thing, at least in writing, but how creepy do I want to get with it is the question
The answer is probably shota Alastor fricking (you) and making you cum over and over while teasing you about the fact that it gets you off to have a little boy inside of you
Yup
There is something extra diabolical about human Al that I cannot put my finger on
Like yes demon Al is stronger and more powerful and has close to a hundred years of uninhibited killing on his side but his predecessor is the root of it all
It was the darkness in his heart that planted the seed for demon Al to grow and yet he had no idea of the monster he would become in the next life
He could not have fathomed the power he'd have in hell, could not have seen his greater immortal ambitions...and yet he persisted, for the sake of satiating that hunger within him, feeding the beast that was himself
https://sexypedia.fandom.com/wiki/Alastor
>all of those trigger warnings plastered at the top of the page
What kind of homosexual shit I'm not reading all that into the trash it goes
I find human Al's smugness without any of the power backing it up more intimidating tbh, never mind that it's more fricked for him to be a serial killer when he was just a normal human being.
its diabolical because he's human, demons are meant to be evil so it doesn't hit as hard
Psychopathic Human > Hell Demon
Yeah I think that's it!
I know he practiced witchcraft as a human but even taking the voodoo into account he wasn't immortal and yet he was still out there killing people for the thrill of it >imagining if Al could just transform into his human form as an illusion for jokes
The teasing would never stop
if Al could just transform into his human form as an illusion for jokes
I don't think he would, I feel like he would think his human self was weak or pathetic and wanna distance himself from that.
I feel like he should be more ashamed that he's a deer, the most moronic animals on earth.
3 months ago
Anonymous
NTA but deer are so moronic where I live there are signs by the road in some areas that caution drivers to look out for them and I've had to break for them plenty of times
3 months ago
Anonymous
deer kill more people in the united states than any other animal (its mosquitos worldewide tho)
3 months ago
Anonymous
>they do this by getting hit by cars and dying with them
absolutely 0 IQ creatures
3 months ago
Anonymous
I find it funny that theyre so deadly...in such a stupid way.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I want to see alastor getting hit by a car
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Alastor accidentally defeats Adam by getting hit by his car while the latter is out for a country drive
If they have an angelic weapon, most likely. Carmilla does sell them willy nilly, so if a schmuck has enough souls to trade in, they are good to go on angelic weaponry.
I really hope not.
There is no winning in showing human Alastor in particular. >He keeps his current human design, which was approved by Viv years ago
"Viv is racist because he's white/not black enough." >He gets a new design that is more black
"Viv is a backpedalling b***h and now the fandom is split in half with one half calling the other racist for not liking the new design"
Also the asian fandom would be angry and you don't want to piss them off
It's better to just leave the human designs to the imagination
To my fellow former dangangays:
What happened when we got Danganronpa 3's Despair Arc? Yeah exactly.
I hope the human pasts aren't explored in any great detail and especially not flashback episodes.
I once met someone who thought bulls were their own species and that both male and female bulls looked like bulls. They thought cows were their own separate thing.
Wasn't it stated somewhere that Alastor was really ashamed of his hooves?
I think it makes sense he'd at least somewhat despise being a deer since they are prey animals
He just had to get used to it
Okay I laughed, these poor city people and their total disconnect from nature... Although I'm no better I get scared of being in big cities because I'm worried about the skyscrapers randomly tumbling down
I wonder if he feels compelled to walk into traffic and then walk even slower when he realizes cars are all around him waiting for him to move the frick out of the way.
I wonder if he ever gets panicked by sudden noises and tries to jump over a fence to escape only to completely underestimate how far he can jump and get his legs stuck on the fence while his top half faceplants.
one time I was driving home and a deer used the fricking crosswalk to cross the road as the light turned red
I want to see Alastor being victim to his animal side now
I wonder if he feels compelled to walk into traffic and then walk even slower when he realizes cars are all around him waiting for him to move the frick out of the way.
I wonder if he ever gets panicked by sudden noises and tries to jump over a fence to escape only to completely underestimate how far he can jump and get his legs stuck on the fence while his top half faceplants.
one time I was driving home and a deer used the fricking crosswalk to cross the road as the light turned red
>haven't smoked wee in almost 2 years >seriously considering buying some delta 8 to have a psychotic all encompassing fap session and indulge in hyper imagination with husbandos
it's been a rough month.
I'm starting to think Alastor actually shares Charlie's dream, and that's why he was killing off Overlords. He left the Overlords who are "nice" or just weaker than him to live.
He just want to take Lucifer's place as king of hell, and in doing so he probably found out the secrets of the universe by meddling with Roo and shit, and so his goals have evolved with new information, but the original goal stayed the same.
Alastor's big goal has to do with being able to have the power to kill or control those who wronged him, persisting from his earthly life. My guess is he's trying to take down Roo ultimately after he discovered her purpose, but had to make a deal to double cross her later on. He's bringing Charlie to the fight with him, he sees she has the potential with her angelic and hellish genes to be the ultimate hybrid.
Lol in Japan Alastor's name translates to "Aracha" which is why it appears that way on some fanarts. I'll now refer to asian depictions of him as Aracha.
That scene where Vox screams "This is better than sex!" and then it cuts to Alastor saying "Have to disagree with you there" looks like it was placed that way on purpose. I headcanon from it that Alastor enjoys sex but doesn't place much importance to it and could easily live without it
It's because Vivz got rid of the original writers from the pilot. Dave and Ken really brought a lot to the characters and once she got rid of them they all went the way of Helluva.
Vivz just isn't a good writer. she's always been pretty shit at it, just read Zoophobia and you'll get an idea of how lame and surface level her shit is.
He'd be popular with horned demons and hellborn as they all are graceless and are born without the qualifications of even being considered redemption material.
This is also good visual representation of the enjoyability of You Didn't Know vs Hell is Forever. To be fair, YDK is one of those end of act medleys musicals do, so it was never going to be as good as the original songs it's made from. But parts are just barely tuneful wordswordswords. Not the reprise I was hoping for.
Welcome to Heaven and You didn’t know feel like purposely weak songs, since the main singers are speaking from a weak position.
Emily is a naive angel girl who will end up falling, making the lyrics she sings incredibly ironic in the latter song.
However, the former song feels more like the perversion of Heaven. Emily shows her love for the pleasures of Heaven, but not to the people of Heaven. The welcoming and protective father for all Winners, Adam, and the sincere and orderly Sera. It literally does a “oh muh science” joke, and science is often used incorrectly for supplementing God and his most loyal followers to proclaim your own selfish truths.
I’m not saying that Vivziepop is purposely doing some stupid genius writing or is even thinking about Richard Dawkins and stuff I’m mentioning.
What I am saying is that Vivziepop is establishing that Emily’s priorities (materialism and her own desires) are in the wrong. And her walking pass Adam, without having the “sinner” meet him for the very first time, is a very big red flag. If she truly cared about Sinners, she would’ve been far more considerate of Adam’s extremely personal relationship with them. And allow them to meet him for the first and last time in their seemingly only visit to Heaven.
Hell is forever is a song of Adam accepting the sad outcomes of his family, which he only knew when he arrived to Heaven, a place he expected Abel and many children to arrive and await for him. And despite him objectively far worse off than the angels and Emily in that entire situation, he doesn’t rebel against his father, and instead appreciates what he has left and what the father has given to him in Heaven, Lute. In order to go to Heaven, you need to give up everything, including the people you love the most.
You may think that, but Adam tried to make Vaggie realize the errors of her ways and comeback to Heaven. He also called her the best thing ever.
The fact Vaggie offended him and Lute so much are signs they truly did love her.
> Adam watched as Lute gouged out her eye and ripped off her wings. He doesn't express any guilt for her or even send exorcists back for her or even had anyone watching over her while she was in Hell.
He knew the duties and Vaggie went against them.
Adam and Lute quickly hindered her and left behind because she rebelled and they had to move on from her. It’s done swiftly and emotionlessly because they didn’t want to do it, but they had to.
They left Vaggie alone in Hell in the hopes that if she did see how Hell was normally like, she would’ve regretted her actions.
Remember, Adam has to let go everyone he ever cares about once God deems them as evil. Especially Eve. He’s too used to this, but it still hurts for him.
You’re thinking of things the wrong way. Adam and Lute are the angels who takes their duties to the uppermost extremes, which is what God desires and allows them to always come back to Heaven (the Cherubs establishes that God doesn’t play around or give a damn phony “good” personalities).
To God, Charlie is the perfect tool to test the Heavens and their faith on his judgements. So if the Angels went against Adam, it would ironically cause them to fall instead.
It’s like being against King David for performing God-ordained genocides and not being sure if he was good enough to be in Heaven. You deserve to be kicked out of Heaven for not being as good as David and for your lack of faith for God’s will and judgements. Because David would honor the father and you wouldn’t in his position.
A narcissist who wouldn’t say that his deeds made him good enough to enter and remain Heaven?
That’s a massive contradiction to his entire persona.
He often makes a lot of big claims and doesn’t actually indulge in them. He didn’t write down his name in his little papers, did he, mr. “I love putting my name on shit. It’s the best” Adam.
There’s more of a point for Pentious’ character to have Cherri Bomb reveal her past than for Pentious to reveal his past.
Bro is this your youtube?
https://www.youtube.com/@justice8718
I much preferred Pilot Vaggie over what Show Vaggie is supposed to be.
Her "death marker" literally works just like every other Sinners' mark does, so her having a 'le special' mark that just so happened to look like the "finisher" marker Sinners have is autistic last minute plot switching in my opinion.
>He is literally black
He literally isn't. They can say he's mixed race all they want, his character just ISN'T black. They clearly only said that to garner brownie points with wokegays >Ftms don't count
Fricking obviously, lol. I'm not FTM just autistic as shit. I like writing, and I liked Adam and Lute, and I thought the idea of Alastor being stuck with them would be fun to write. It is.
>have trouble believing any man would be interested in this show, even gay ones, but whatever you say
I personally know a couple of guys who've mentioned it in passing. A post in another thread summed up the reason pretty well: there's frick all else to watch. Aside from that, lots of guys also watched Zim as kids. Some were no doubt lured in by the aesthetics. And Charlie.
>I have trouble believing any man would be interested in this show, even gay ones
Sort of a guilty pleasure for me, in theory I despise vivziepop's writing, beliefs, interests and design philosophy but there's something charming about a deviantart/tumblr b***h turning her OCs into an actual show plus its the only remotely unique animated show on air at the moment
Same here. Its interesting, and I wanna see some MCs die.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>I wanna see some MCs die.
Is there any chance of this happening? Did she ever kill a main character in Zootopia? I get the impression Vivzie's the sort of writer who can't off anyone she's invested in. The two characters who've died so far—Adam and Pentious, who also came back—were very late additions to the cast compared to the babies she's been nursing since highschool.
3 months ago
Anonymous
More writers really need to adopt the GRRM stance towards characters. If a character makes a mistake that should get them killed, they should die.
For example, Vaggie shouldn't have won the fight with Lute, but the plot needed her to win, so she did.
She spends the whole fight getting her ass kicked and then rubble wins it for her.
Another is Angel Dust, like there's no reason Val wouldn't try to kidnap him or force him to stay at his studio, he just keeps letting him go to the Hotel when it apparently annoys him. Why not just force him to stay? Hes clearly not intimidated by Charlie at all. The answer is that the plot needs him to be at the hotel, so he is. It doesn't matter if logically, he should be stuck in the studio or at the very least dodging kidnappers every now and then, because keeping his abusive relationship in high tension for character development/drama is better for the show.
Theres a LOT of contrivance that you have to ignore.
3 months ago
Matpat
With Val, he has Alastor being the thorn on his side, so forcing Alastor’s guest to be in his studio provokes big conflicts with the guy who is willing to kill him.
Vaggie is simply a black hole that has the plot and character fold to her. Maybe because Lute struggles with the idea of killing her own exorcist that she may-or-may-not have birthed, or Vivziepop is trying and failing to make Vaggie even slightly cool. homosexuals are bad, but dykes are hypeless black holes.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Lute struggles with the idea of killing her own exorcist that she may-or-may-not have birthed
If Lute was Vaggie's mom that definitely would have been mentioned. I think Adam just kinda wills them into existence or something, idk, Viv didn't feel like explaining the exorcists.
3 months ago
Matpat
Adam and Lute are meant to be mysterious characters. They just seemingly look open-ended and shut to deceive the audience. Even though Adam had his entire face hidden away the whole time, like the mysterious Lilith/Eve, till the end of episode 8.
If Lute was revealed to give birth to Vaggie and the Exorcist, it would give away too much on her relationship with Adam and make Charlie and Vaggie look like an utterly selfish monsters (Vaggie is one, but the audience is supposed to be biased for her side).
3 months ago
Anonymous
Why would the writers want to influence the audience to be on Vaggie's side of they plan to reveal Lute is her mom later?
I feel like you're just saying shit to say it at this point
3 months ago
Matpat
Because it’s a story with twists and turns. Fricking Eve is Adam’s worst enemy in this show.
It’s the basics of story telling, with twist villains and twist heroes.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Another is Angel Dust, like there's no reason Val wouldn't try to kidnap him or force him to stay at his studio, he just keeps letting him go to the Hotel when it apparently annoys him.
Angel's recovery arc is one of the elements that suffers the most from S1's lack of focus. You're right; it doesn't make sense that Valentino just lets the hotel situation slide. After Charlie's failed intervention, I would expect escalation from an abuser who has no reason to fear retaliation. I'm sure that plot thread will be picked back up in season two. But there's really no character-driven reason reason to put it on ice for months in-universe. The writing team simply wanted to rush through a time skip so the season finale could be an "epic" clash with heaven and the destruction of the Exorcists.
I don't understand the point of taking a scenario purpose-built for medium stakes character drama (written by a woman who obviously loves that going by HB's second season) and turning it into a battle shonen.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>The writing team simply wanted to rush through a time skip so the season finale could be an "epic" clash with heaven and the destruction of the Exorcists.
This is why, even though I enjoyed the show somewhat, I don't call it "good". It has great characters, interesting in-universe elements, and a lot of amazing design and animation that people clearly put a lot of effort into, but the writing is just not there.
Its a shame so much talent and effort is muted by that fact.
It’s ultimately because the side-characters and villains are what the story centers around, so if they are good, they carry the thing on their shoulders. If they weren’t, it would be the boring dyke show.
I'm more or less in the same boat, I saw the pilot when it premiered, enjoyed it, & have stuck around since. The show has a weird way of tickling the late 2000s/mid 2010s edgy teen side of my brain like no other. Also, I want to hatefrick pilot Vaggie.
Alright so with Alastor's mom... I have 2 ideas.
1. they find her, they meet, Alastor is happy to see her, shes happy to see him, they bond, and things are better, Alastor becomes even friendlier with Adam and Lute because of this.
2. They don't find her/they do and what Alastor has done (serial killing, becoming a demon, torturing souls and destroying lives) horrifies her so much she doesn't want anything to do with him. This would leave Alastor with no mother figure, and emotionally devastated because his mom doesn't love him anymore. Since hes so attached to the idea of "mom", I was thinking he could start to see subconciously treat Lute maternally, which would allow me to give Lute more sympathetic character development. Also a lot of cute awkward scenes.
I can't decide what would be best though.
Writegay here, I was leaning towards that too, it feels the most natural imo, because if Alastor's mom DID go to heaven, there's no way she'd be cool with what hes done.
Writegay here, I was leaning towards that too, it feels the most natural imo, because if Alastor's mom DID go to heaven, there's no way she'd be cool with what hes done.
Yeah. Go with option 2. Headcanoning a huge chunk of a character's background by introducing 100% OC versions of their parents/siblings is usually a mistake anyway. Better to leave Momlastor vague.
i just cant see husk being this kind of character knowing hes voiced by keith david. not saying there couldnt be some kind of deeper relationship/tension between the two
its bad enough he looks like a kitty. i can kinda see why people draw him fat to fit the voice
Bisexual girl, used to identify as genderfluid and use they/them but stopped that when I began to feel embarrassed by the trans shit
just want to point out that I've been on Cinemaphile since I was 14 I really did have dysphoria back then
I don't identify as lgbt I just meet the definition of bisexual
I feel way too cold and inhuman to apply to that.
Everyone gets fascinated with the activities and the personal issues, deaths. and stuff. But I’m way too mellow and emotionless. I was put on laughing gas and I felt nothing but tiredness.
Very few things thrill me. The shocking stories bore me. Without God, I would likely be some heinous monster and quickly get up to the top as some top satanic agent. With the looks, voice, and talents. Twisting the bIble to see how I can sabotage Christians.
Bro you make schizophrenic hazbin hotel theories on a Turkish Roach-Whisperer forum you're not him
3 months ago
Matpat
If I was satisfied with anything, would I be here?
Think about it, anon, I instantly thought Adam was based and heroic for killing sinners with no love and remorse inside of him.
You normal people are hesitant on that kind of mindset and let your emotions break the simple stance of logic.
If I was told to kill you under God’s command, I would. Get shocked for a bit, and then I mellow back into my original husk self in moments. That’s not human.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Bro I 100% agree with that, that's most of the reason I like Adam, I just am not under the impression that he's doing it because of virtue or God's order. He's doing it for himself. He enjoys it WAY too much. I know you're gonna say "nah he's just putting on an act to cope with what he has to do and like... MAYBE but that's entirely in your head and there is no indication in the show that any of that is true. If he was what you say he was, he should be almost completely emotionless and barely even speak to Charlie and her friends. He should be heartlessly obliterating everything and everyone without it being personal or emotional. He literally died in the end because he let his emotions get the best of him.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>adamschizo is actually a schizo
this is why schizos and people who do meth are terrifying
"god" could tell them to do anything at any time with no rhyme or reason and they'd just fricking do it
like that b***h high on meth who pulled out her own eyes
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, it's fricking scary. I hope he doesn't hurt anyone.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I wouldn't worry too much. The more someone talks about how dangerous they are anonymously online, the less dangerous they probably are.
3 months ago
Anonymous
This is the only time I brought this up. Demons seethed at me when I saw truths and tried to scare off with their stupid dark energies, torture dreams, and such, and all I think about is how pathetic and scared they are to be pure living darkness.
What makes me safe-ish is self-control and diligence. There’s nothing to tempt me with. And under God’s mercy, I am not an agent of destruction. But there are many people like me in the world who aren’t as wise and they wicked to the core.
3 months ago
Anonymous
What's funny is he is trying to say Adam is like him when he VERY clearly is not. Adam in the show is very clearly doing everything for selfish reasons of hate and vengeance. Besides, Viv and the Amazon writers aren't NEARLY talented enough to write a character that complex and involved. Bro just writes fanfiction about characters and staples it to the official lore
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's fitting he calls himself matpat much like the real guy he asspulls and treats his fanfiction as fact
3 months ago
Anonymous
All you are is a dumb normie mocker that is blinded by God because you are humble as a Pharaoh made of stone. Without the humbleness, he’s keeping your eyes shut till you die. And Jesus mentioned this because he knew the father blinded the unbelievers.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Oh yeah which bible or denomination do you follow
3 months ago
Anonymous
I don’t know.
Follow god’s commands to show your love for him. The end, I guess?
The paranormal stuff is a bonus feature.
3 months ago
Matpat
God’s justice and ways are higher than yours. You cannot create a true Heaven for everyone. He can.
You inferior rat.
Bro I 100% agree with that, that's most of the reason I like Adam, I just am not under the impression that he's doing it because of virtue or God's order. He's doing it for himself. He enjoys it WAY too much. I know you're gonna say "nah he's just putting on an act to cope with what he has to do and like... MAYBE but that's entirely in your head and there is no indication in the show that any of that is true. If he was what you say he was, he should be almost completely emotionless and barely even speak to Charlie and her friends. He should be heartlessly obliterating everything and everyone without it being personal or emotional. He literally died in the end because he let his emotions get the best of him.
Adam showed love by obeying the speaker of God, Sera. And he put the higher ways of Heaven over his own desires to have Eve and the Sinners they’ve had.
Emily is the selfish one who goes against Sera, despite all of the warnings given to her, and shows so much passion for the materialisms and pleasures of Heaven, rather than for Adam, the father and guardian of Winners, and Sera, the speaker who manages and takes care of her, Adam, and the rest of heaven.
Simply by having Emily ignore Adam, instead of pushing the “sinner” (Vaggie) to him, shows how surprisingly shallow she is.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yea dude I'm sorry but that's all in your head, this show is not that smart. It is nothing more than what it claims to be. Pretending God has anything to do with this show is teetering on sacrilege. It's effectively an entirely different universe. Adam submits to her in court because she's the boss, Emily speaks out because she is outraged at sinners being killed. That's it.
YOU CAN STILL LIKE ADAM FOR SLAUGHTERING SINNERS, THATS FINE. But all this extra shit just isn't there in canon.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Everything is possible with God. And he would want to leave messages for the lost, confused, and aware, especially when his Son comes to the earth in few years or so.
This is almost the end of our second day.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>God’s justice and ways are higher than yours.
Yeah so you're a schizo who could hurt someone because a voice in your head tells you to
Stay away from me.
You are a danger to society man
3 months ago
Anonymous
If "God" tells you to attack someone unprovoked, that's not God. Followers of God are supposed to take up arms only in defense of others.
Dude makes us all look bad.
I love Alastor so much. He's a character that I love to imagine doing the domination and raping, but I can also imagine him being dominated as well. He's a good hammer and nail. Although as of right now I prefer stories and art of him molesting and manipulating Charlie. I hope there' more art of him raping and deflowering her as well soon.
Writegay here, no, its too expensive. I would love to cosplay as something from Warhammer 40K, but I'm poor as shit. I guess I could go as an Ork, I'm muscly enough, but that'd take so much green bodypaint lol
I did a sob and made everything from cardboard coated in paper mache, it was super cheap. alot of costumes can be done for cheap if you dont mind spending more time on it.
>Adam claims he likes putting his name down and passionate about it >Instead, he likes drawing for funsies
Rosie/Lilith was hinting that Adam wasn’t what he seems.
Considering that Emily is given Fallen Imagery while Adam is given ascension imagery, it feels like we are supposed to be shocked that Adam is good all along and you have Emily and a good Portion of angels/winners descending down to Hell for their rebelliousness.
I wonder if the story has Emily and the angels to oppose Sera for continuing the exterminations out of duty, proclaiming her and Lute as monsters, even if they have shown love for the redeemed sinners and want to protect them from Hell as well.
So later on, when Sera and Lute are in dumps, depressed at everything turned out, Hell suddenly having an entire army of Seraphims and angels on their side, Adam and resurrected exorcist appear before them with six wings on their backs.
Thus, season 3 will be a full-blown end of the world scenario.
Uh hey guys the Alastor cultist girl hasn't posted in a while, do you think whatever she was calling from the aether actually manifested and ate her soul or something?
No. It’s literally genesis 6 on a smaller scale.
Mankind really wants to frick angels and Fallen angels want to frick them. Holy angels are like Christians, they wait.
It’s real.
Yea Alastor isn't real, because, you know, obviously, so if she did actually get something to listen to her, it definitely wasn't what she was asking for... gonna say a quick prayer for her soul.
>be you, Alastorschizo >for over a week offer your blood to him via a hand drawn sigil of his wacky witchcraft symbols >burn the sigil and release the energy >meet an entity that will at least pretend to be your deer husband >get fricked and impregnated by this entity and dragged back to hell >he just makes you into his housewife and has you cooking him some fricked up cannibal dishes every day
I'm ngl this sounds pretty based to me
Yea that's why all the highest ranking members of society keep getting caught in Satanic ritual worship and keep referencing Satan favorably in art constantly, just for fun lol
Everything is possible with God. And he would want to leave messages for the lost, confused, and aware, especially when his Son comes to the earth in few years or so.
This is almost the end of our second day.
Are you actually fricking implying that this moronic cartoon is a message from God
Anon, Adam’s character is themed around abandoning and killing your loved ones and children for God’s divine justice. And moving on to what God will give you in Heaven.
Barely any character is like him and that’s scary.
>Adam’s character is themed around abandoning and killing your loved ones and children for God’s divine justice. And moving on to what God will give you in Heaven.
Then how come nothing in the show indicates that in any way whatsoever and only make sense when you consult your board of thumbtacks on random HH characters woven together with yarn
3 months ago
Anonymous
3 months ago
Anonymous
So like what does this prove
3 months ago
Anonymous
Adam abandoned everything and everyone he knew when he arrived and stayed in Heaven. Fully accepting that he would never see them ever again if he did remain there.
That should scare you.
3 months ago
Anonymous
But it doesn't say that, it says he was the first soul to enter heaven, you made up that other part
3 months ago
Anonymous
Adam literally replaced Eve the sinner with a holy angel. He picked the heavenly wife as his other half.
It’s not my fault you’re stupid.
https://desuarchive.org/co/search/text/generals%20/capcode/mod/
You're supposed to lurk more instead. Cinemaphile doesn't caution against request threads either but it's still a warning/deletion on sight.
3 months ago
Anonymous
The fact that I've been on this fricking website over a decade and never heard of this before is insane
>before calarts (even though that's impossible to say with viv's hot topic art)
>after calarts
I don't think you know what calarts is
It's a meme, dipstick.
Memes are supposed to make sense
? What? Memes haven't made sense for like 10 years.
No, nothing has to make sense, you just say whatever shit at random, and it's okay.
c**tb***h shitass. Am I doing it right?
c**tb***h shitass sounds like a raunchy spongebob parody
old one looks more like calarts though
>(even though that's impossible to say with viv's hot topic art)
The old one looks more like Calarts stuff
>muh calarts
Reaching for buzzwords is the sigil of subnormal IQ.
>waahhh stop saying buzzwords on a Mongolian basket weaving forum that only speaks in buzzwords
newbie zoomers like you should leave
>zoomers like you should leave
relax, it's just a mongolian basket weaving forum, after all 🙂
Viv didn't even go to Calarts.
she went to SVA
I liked his pilot voice actor more
Why does he even have a monocle if it isn't over his eye?
All vivziepop designs have to have at least one thing that didn't need to be there
like a face
I miss his cheery attitude. They made him such a hormonal b***h
He was a lot harder to read in the pilot, which made him much more interesting and ambiguous.
NuLastor feels more like a generic villain with a radio host gimmick. Pilot Alastor was relentlessly charming while also having malice hidden underneath, while with NuLastor it's malice that takes the centerstage.
I love both Alastors but I miss the whimsy of the pilot version a lot and I wish we had more of that
this anon sums it up pretty well
Just say “old good, new bad” or that you don’t like the new voice even tho it’s amazing. I miss the pilot cast too but the new cast isn’t that bad.
>Just say “old good, new bad” or that you don’t like the new voice
NTA but that post is obviously talking about characterization, not casting.
It's because they made him have a dumbfrick vendetta with Vox and Lucifer while also getting pissy if no one acknowledges him. He went from chaotic neutral to chaotic good cause they wanted to give him "character"
>It's because they made him have a dumbfrick vendetta with Vox
This was always the plan.
>and Lucifer
I don't see why this is worth complaining about.
TIL Chaotic Good is when you own slaves and have a whole verse about how you’ll rule everything once you’re free
Its hell homosexual. Alastor is the closest to chaotic good you're gonna get
They made him cuter and more breedable.
He wasn't the only one...
Pretty sure this was an ~~*Amazon*~~ change. Can't have what is essentially your god being portrayed as evil. Make him seem affable and harmless, a good dad with a sympathetic backstory. Gee, wonder who made that ~~*Creative*~~ decision?
(I :^)
Meds.
>thinking about meds
Ngmi.
Was he the character with the least changes to his design?
Viv said Lucifer is her favourite character to write so I doubt it was them
you really think writing literal creator of hell as owo anxious duck dad was amazon's creative decision?
Lucifer is meant to be a creepy ass b***h clown that throws you off with his duck quirks and charm. But to Heaven, he’s the terror they must honor. And to Adam, a stalker that makes him go seto-incognito mode as some wacky bachelor that totally didn’t frick an entire army into existence with a special someone.
We were robbed
In a sense we most certainly were. However, I feel if instead of entirely removing what we have from the show, we should have a mix. Hear me out with this.
AHEM...
Have some of the show version of Lucifer as a form of "front" or "mask" he uses for a lot of people, even Charlie. Maybe even somewhat for Lilith.
Then, some of that fandom magic and pizazz we were excited for, a ruthlessly charismatic psychopath that is hopelessly self-centered, much like Lucifer was when he fell from God's grace.
I wouldn't even forego any of his "positive" traits he was written to have that he does in the Bible, try making him accurate, because when his character is explored, it's genuinely layered, when trying to understand Lucifer as an actual person/angel thingy.
I mean he still somewhat of his pride in the show even if it's subtle, notice how he never blames himself for anything, its always someone else's fault
This is the problem with fandom culture. The show will always inevitably take a backseat to the fandom and said fandom will dedicate itself towards making something far more interesting than the show itself (that often couldn't work within the confines of the actual project). Look at RWBY, large chunks of its own fandom now hate the show itself and what do they do? Endlessly dedicate themselves to fanfics and fanart that they feel is indicative of what should have/could have been. Given Hazbin was 4 years of hype based on a pilot? It's actually amazing how little it received in this regard.
isn't the left image fanart
Viv can only write 1 personality.
>me on tumblr
>me on Cinemaphile
>me on twitter
>me on facebook
Kinda true though.
he's zesty now
Show gave us nun Alastor
Show > pilot
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
I NEED TO MATING PRESS HIM
I NEED TO PULL ON HIS CUTE TAIL
I NEED TO BITE HIS FLUFFY EARS
>MATING PRESS HIM
Are you ESL? Honest question because otherwise you're hopelessly cumbrained and are actively courting death.
not esl, but i am horrifically cumbrained for the deer
Subjugate the deer
Oppress the deer
Molest the deer
Rape the deer
it did?
Asking once again in the new thread, does anybody have any genderswapped drawings of Val and Vox?
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Continued from last thread
>"Adam, look, I'm sorry, but what the frick?" Sera said, pinching the bridge of her nose with 2 fingers.
>"Who is that..?" Peter asked, uncomfortably shifting. "I don't even need to check the list... whoever he is, hes definitely NOT on here."
>"Yea nah its fine, he's a souvenir from Hell, hes with me."
>"Why would you bring him here?!" snapped the Seraphim, looking at Adam with pure incredulity "You literally went down there to kill everything! Even if you wanted to save someone, why him?!"
>Adam scoffed. "Ah come oooon Sera, lighten up! Hes harmless! I mean, hes not, but he will be! Hold on, I've got something here..."
>With a snap of his fingers, Adam materialized a golden collar, with a little lock on the middle, and approached Alastor.
>"No, stay away, I don't-!"
>Lute grabbed him from behind and held him still while Adam snapped the ring around his throat. Instantly, he felt even weaker than he had before. It took serious effort just to sit upright.
>"There! A little Collar of Binding and hes powerless! Can't so much as bite me!"
>The Radio Demon inavdertently proved his point when he tried to rise to attack Adam, and yelped with confusion as he suddenly twisted away at the last moment and sprawled on the ground.
>"Neat huh? Yea, the magic won't let him attack me, he'll literally throw himself aside at the last moment, and it also makes it so he can't use any of his demonic powers. He's like a mortal, except worse! Haha!"
>"So... why not just kill him?" asked Sera.
>"Because hes... look, I don't want to be here all day. I got Lucy's little girl, see, right here."
>Lute threw Charlie down on the ground in front of the throne, with Vaggie's head. When Charlie saw that, she wailed and cried like her whole world was gone... because it was.
>"Tell you what," Adam said. "I got Lucy's daughter, so I just hand her over unharmed, and you let me keep him. Deal?"
..."Deal." Sera said reluctantly.
YES! I NEED MORE, THANK YOU ANON!
i'm invested. continue pls
Previous entries because I forgor the arrows (Its a story where Adam wins in the finale and decides to keep Alastor as a pet. Humiliation stuff.
Dating sim to pair up Charlie and Alastor.
yes!
>Alastor leaned on Lute as he walked through the streets of gold and palaces of saints and heroes of virtue, eyes down, hopeless and bitter. Would the humilation ever end?
>People gave them weird looks as they went by but, it was Adam, so everyone assumed it was official business, and simply ignored the odd trio.
>Eventually, after having walked off the main street for a while, they came to a big mansion, with statues of women with beautiful bodies in exorcist helmets standing in a large garden, filled with flowers and small animals. A little duck pond out front, painted gold and white, with Adam's signature A sigil wrought in burnished gold on the sterling silver front gate.
>"Well, here we are! My little slice of heaven. Haha, get it?"
>"I hate you." he said.
>He shrugged. "I think I'll grow on you, Alistan"
>"ALASTOR!!!" he corrected, screaming it in his face. "MY NAME IS ALASTOR!!!"
>"...can I call you Ally?"
>"NO-"
>"Awesome, alright Ally lets go, genocide makes me hungry. LUTE!"
>She snapped to attention, performing a quick salute and standing stock straight.
>"YES SIR!"
>"Can you make me macaroni and cheese and chicken nuggets? Pleeeease?"
>"RIGHT AWAY SIR." she replied, as they went through the gate and into the house, she stopped and held the door for him and his new... pet.
>"Lute you're so freaking awesome, b***h."
>"I know sir."
>"Ok so Ally-"
>"ALAS-"
>"Ahp bupbupbupbup, shhh, daddy's talking. Now, ALLY... lets get you out of that silly suit I mean come on you look ridiculous in that."
>Snapping his fingers, Alastor went from wearing his signature pinstripe red suit and slacks, to a dress up onsie meant to look like a deer (pic related, but no hood because he already has antlers. Oh and red. Just like imagine that but no hood and red)
>"Much better!"
>Alastor hid his face in his hands... hooves... whatever. "Kill me... please."
Fugg I forgor to link and
>pic related, but no hood because he already has antlers. Oh and red. Just like imagine that but no hood and red
Getting a little too autistic anon.
The costume choice or the pedantry of explaining the outfit twice?
I can't just have him be naked because Adam doesn't swing that way but him being in his full regalia and being treated like an actual pet animal just feels silly.
put hi in Adams old band shirt or something.
it would be funny if his mom liked him and adam being together
>adam has a duck pond
DEEPEST LORE
>"Ah come on, c'mere!"
>Alastor yelped as he was roughly yanked back up. They were in the living room of the mansion, an 80 inch Plasma screen TV with every channel ever conceived was on the opposite wall, and Alastor was yanked up onto the couch where Adam sat. With the collar around his neck, he had very little physical options to resist, and so he just kind of ended up in the First Man's lap.
>"I wanna try something..."
>Reaching deep into the thick red hair on the Radio Demon's head, he dug in and scratched at the base of his ears, stimulating extremely sensitive nerves and making him feel weak in a whole different way.
>"S-stop that..." he hissed.
>"Ahhh? Did I find good spot? Awwww, does the wittle deer wike it when I scwatch behind his eawrs?" his captor said in a mocking baby voice that made Alastor seethe.
>"No..."
>As he continued Alastor couldn't help but melt into the scratches. Nobody had ever scratched behind his ears before... he'd done it himself, but normally he didn't like to be touched at all. That... particular spot though, oooohhhhh it felt good... made his head tingle all over and caused his leg to do a funny little twitchy thing he couldn't seem to stop.
>Adam leaned over and called into the Kitchen "Lute, come here, you gotta see this!"
>Poking her head out, she looked and started laughing. "Is his leg shaking like a puppy?!"
>"Yea I know I couldn't believe it either!"
>Alastor groaned. "I-I... am not... a-a-a... pet..."
>"Awwwww, gwumpy little guy... make him some food too, I bet hes a hungry wittle man, yes you are, yes you are!"
>He switched from the ears to scratching under Alastor's chin. He tried to bite him and succeeded only in biting his own tongue.
>"I already told you that won't work... silly little guy..."
>The humiliations were neverending, and he was plotting on how to escape, but just now, perhaps it was best to lay low. They would let their guard down somehow... and when they did... he would get out of here.
can you make them watch bambi please
I feel like its easier to make a short of them watching bambi than it is to describe it with words.
Alright so, taking suggestions, what happens next? After Adam makes Alastor curl up and sleep at the foot of the bed, I don't know where to go from there.
Adam feeds him by hand like an animal at a petting zoo. Adam calls Alastor's mom somehow?
Is Alastor's mom like an actual character? Is she in the comics and does she have lore?
Kinda gross tbh I was thinking he'd just make him go outside like a dog.
Good idea, probably will do that. I was planning on her being kinda lowkey forced into being the new admin of Hell and keeping track of all the souls that go there. Maybe she makes it a better place since shes in charge, maybe she plots for revenge, we'll see.
no, but he does mention her. and it would be funny seeing Alastors mother scold Alastor for going to hell and being happy with Adam
>Alastor! why aren't you married yet!
>maybe she plots for revenge
Hopefully. Her dad, GF, and friends are all dead, along with Lilith nowhere to be found. On the other hand, though, did Pentious respawn in this AU? Things could get very interesting if maybe a few of the others respawned too.
>Hopefully.
I don't think it'd go well unless she bides her time, a lot. All her potential assets are dead.
I also dunno if they would have respawned in the AU, actually, considering it isn't canon precisely what caused it. I think it had something to do with what happens to Adam, so I don't think they COULD come back, but maybe? I'm trying to think of characters who could have, and I'm drawing a blank tbh.
I could see her being smart enough to realize that revenge would essentially be a suicide mission, making her pick her targets selectively. Going after Adam would be a very likely option, but what if she went after Lute instead? And she died knowing that Adam would have to live with the fact that he can't keep any woman in his life? But also not realizing this would inadvertently push Adam closer to Al?
I really did't want this to become gay romance so I hate how good of an idea that is. Might have to do it.
Yep, gonna probably do that too.
NOOOOOO DONT KILL OFF LUTE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
could be platonic stockholm syndrome?
Oooo yea that'd more fresh to write too. Gay smutfics are a dime a dozen.
What if Charlie captures Lute, is going to kill her, then Adam reveals he has Alastor, offers him in exchange for Lute's life, and then Charlie has to choose between revenge or the last friend she has? Bonus points if Alastor has gotten so used to being Adam's companion that he doesn't actually want to go with Charlie anymore...
I would like a happy end for everybody but I understand that's not always fun to write
I think it's too late for that in this AU, no matter what happens someone has to lose
Just that he loved her
Adam makes him use a litter box
Maybe cut to Charlie to see how she's holding up? Then cut back to Al waking up afterwards?
Adam finds out Alastor has a tail when making him change outfits
Oh yea next segment I definitely will be having him notice his tail. In my headcanon he does have one, I mean he has ears, and antlers. Why not a tail?
Adam forces Alastor to entertain him (ie put on a show or something or make him do tricks like a dog)
Adam (deliberately) confusing his hooved mammals and bucking Alastor while he strains as hard as he can not to have Adam snap his weakened back like a twig because of how much of a fatso he's become
Definitely a possibility for tomorrow. Unfortunately I have to go to sleep now, I work overtime tomorrow and I'm waking up in less than 6 hours. It was worth it though to make something at least a couple people liked. 🙂
Thank you anon, I await the next chapter of the Alastor and Adam show. do not die till you finish.
Looking forward to it!
>After a few more minutes, Lute entered the room with 2 plates of Macaroni and Chicken Nuggets, and some meat for Alastor.
>"I know demons like eating flesh... I didn't bother cooking it. Its strip steak."
>The grumble in his stomach gave him away, and hesitantly, he took the steak. The healing tonic he'd had earlier had done its work well, he was feeling a lot better, and as he sunk his teeth into the meat, he felt his pulse slow a little bit. Just a tad less stress, just a little less pain.
>With a surprise, he tasted salt, and pepper. The steak was seasoned... he felt absurdly grateful that Lute had bothered.
>"You... seasoned it?"
>"You think I'm some kind of fricking hack? Like I can't season a steak?!" she snapped, suddenly enraged.
>"N-No my dear, not at all! I just didn't expect to be treated with any consideration... thank you."
>Her expression softened and she huffed, taking off her helmet and tossing her white hair.
>"You're welcome."
>Alastor stared at her.
>"...What?"
>"I didn't know that was a helmet."
>Adam pulled his off and sighed. "Yea, they're pretty sick huh?"
>Alastor looked at Adam's face, then at his hair, and laughed.
>"Pfff... nice hair."
>"Thanks." he said as he switched the TV on, not at all understanding the sarcasm.
>"He was mocking you sir." Lute said without looking away from the screen.
>Adam snapped to look at Alastor, and frowned, pointing an acusing finger at Lute.
>"I KNEW THAT! You think I didn't know that? I just... I-I wanted to make sure you got it! Thats why I didn't say anything."
>"Yea sir, I got it."
>For a moment Alastor thought he'd gotten away with it. Then Adam materialized a spray bottle and squirted ice-cold water on his face.
>Alastor screeched and ran out of the room and around the corner behind a statue Adam had commissioned of himself. It was one of 5 in this hall alone.
>"Hey! Ally! Come back! We're gonna watch Bambi!"
>"N-" but Lute whipped around the corner and grabbed him before he could refuse
This has become something I'm legitimately enjoying.
Awwww, I'm glad you like it! I'm enjoying making more casual banter between Adam and Lute and Alastor, we didn't get enough of either Adam or Lute imo, and hes really fun to write.
What do you like about it, I'm curious
I always like seeing more Adam and Alastor, and I like the power dynamic between Subastor and Chadam.
Now I want a steak
This is going to be emotional now I decided.
Are you happy
>Alastor was swallowing the last of his steak as he watched this... odd moving drawing show.
>"This is a movie?"
>Adam looked at him like he was crazy. "Yea, fricking- what do you mean "this is a movie" haven't you ever seen a movie before?"
>"Not like this... I'm more a fan of Buster Keaton."
>"... you're so lame dude..."
>"Well... I didn't say this was terrible."
>It had been a wholesome film so far, very nice little story, right now he watched as the little "Bambi" and his mom ventured out in the winter snow... it was charming. Reminded him of his own mother.
>"Shit man, this is the worst part." Adam groaned.
>Alastor was confused. Worst part? This was very quaint and enjoyable. They found spring grass and-
>A gunshot in the woods. A gunshot, many years ago, deep in the forest south of New Orleans.
>A hunter's rifle cracking the peace. "RUN! RUN BAMBI!" Flashes, running through the marsh, the shots striking trees, the baying of hounds panic, fear, dread. Don't hit me... don't hit me, please don'-.
>The final shot, the sharp way his head had snapped up. Then he was laying there, broken, one word pounding through his perforated skull
>"Mother... Mother... Mother... Mother..."
>Her face as his limbs grew numb, and his body felt cold.
>"Mother..."
>Dimly, distantly, Alastor was aware that someone was calling his name.
>It felt like there were tears on his cheeks.
>Between the silent, racking sobs, they heard him muttering.
>"M-Mother... Mother... I'm s-scared... Mother..."
>Movie paused and forgotten, they knelt over him. Adam looked genuinely concerned. Even Lute looked at the weeping demon with. For the first time... he wasn't smiling.
>He was on the ground, knees hugged to his chest, crying.
>"M-Mother... p-please... I want to go home... Mother..."
>Adam pet his head. "Hey, hey dude, come on, snap out of it. Its just a movie..."
>Slowly, he felt himself start to calm down...
>Even Lute looked at the weeping demon with something approaching pity* fml
Finally getting to the good stuff.
I was sitting there thinking "Frick it I guess we'll say they watch Bambi thats funny, its about a deer and hes a deer and... and he loves his mom... and Bambi loves his mom... and he got shot... and Bambi's mom got shot... and... frick now I have to write this, this is a perfect scene its right there waiting for me."
And it was perfectly written in every way. Hopefully, since its heaven, they just call Alastor's mom over to try to get him back into the swing of things, since he is asking for her after all.
>And it was perfectly written in every way
Its very touching to have anyone describe anything I've made as "perfectly written",
that means a lot 🙂
I see a picture in my head and I describe it, nothing more too it really...
Well put together, writegay.
aaaand you've got my full attention.
>Adam lifted the crying Radio Demon in his arms, and carried him to bed, feeling something like actual care for this... sinful degenerate. I mean, yea he was definitely a sinner, and he belonged in hell, but frick dude, how do you bully a guy who's just breaking down weeping in front of you?
>Alastor had started to calm down, and while he wasn't smiling with his teeth anymore, he had managed to return to a sad, yet small semblance of a grin.
>"That wasn't because of you." he said. "I'm not breaking down because you put me in this ridiculous costume and... belittle me..."
>"Well then what the frick dude?" Why the fricking waterworks, I mean yea its a sad scene but-"
>"The day I died. It was a sunny summer day, and Mother and I were having Gumbo for lunch under the oak out front."
>Adam briefly felt the urge to ask what Gumbo was, but he felt like now probably wasn't the time
>"Mother said that the shed out back smelled, and asked if I could go see if maybe an animal had died in there. Poor Mother, she would be crying all day if she had to bury some poor cat or possum."
>"So I told her I would handle it, and she went in to do the dishes. That was when I pulled my Jowett-"
>"Your what?"
>Alastor sighed. "My pickup truck, around to the shed, and loaded in... ahem... the body."
>"The body...?"
>"Yes, the man I'd killed 3 days prior outside a bordello in the Red Light District."
>Adam's eyes widened slightly.
>"I will explain, but please, allow me to continue. Now, as I was saying, I loaded the body in the back, and drove into the woods. I dragged that fat... worthless... sleazy bastard what must have been a mile, and started digging."
>"I didn't know that a hunter had seen me, and decided that today was the day to be a hero."
>"I was just breaking ground when a shot zipped past my ear. I tried to run... but failed. And I died there. In those woods. I don't know if Mother ever even knew what happened to me."
>"Why were you burying a body..?" Adam finally asked.
Nice. good job on making a butthole too, most people try making Alastor into some vigilante who dinna do noffin
Hope you don't mind
. I wanted to give him a reason for his killings because the canonical lore says he "has a code" so I thought it would be neat to write it to be that he kills random horny dudes who go to strip clubs and brothels as a way to deal with the emotional trauma of his mom having to prostitute herself out when he was a kid to support them as a single mom in the 1930s. Its still obviously evil, but in his own twisted worldview, hes ridding the world of "deviants".
Certainly, it's quite good while you can still have some sympathy for him, he is still obviously a bad element.
It also can tie in to give a reason for his lack of sexuality, I just like writing things that all kinda come together and you can looking at them in different ways and see the situation at different angles.
>"I killed people Adam. I killed a lot of people."
>"But like, why?"
"When I was young, we were very poor. Father had walked out on mother when I was born, and she had to do whatever she could to stay alive, and to care for me."
Adam hesitated. "So you mean-"
>"Whatever. She. Could. I don't remember when exactly it started. I could have been 6, maybe 8, young though, very young. I would turn on the radio, and try to drown out the souns of my mother being... used... in the next room. Some lecherous drunkard usually, abusing my Mother's body like it was his TOY."
>"I grew up though, and I found work in the one thing that let me ignore the horror all around me. The Radio. I became the star speaker on my local radio show, and I made a lot of money... enough to get out of that cesspit apartment in downtown and into a real house, near the woods. I was happy there with my mother for a time. She kept asking me when I would bring some nice girl home..." he sighed, smiling sadly. "I didn't have the heart to tell her that what I heard as a boy made it hard for me to find any sexual desire in... anything. I didn't want to be anything like those men."
>His eyes went dark.
>"Those men were still out there. Those men went to those seedy parts of downtown every day, and nobody fricking cared... but I cared. I would wait outside those little dens of depravity, find those men, and kill them."
>"...Did you ever actually get the guys who would go for your mom?"
>Alastor laughed. "I don't actually know... I just knew that anyone who frequented places like THAT... deserved to die."
>"What, just for getting their dick wet?"
>Alastor's grin widened.
>"For being lecherous fools, who were easy prey..."
>The first man was speechless for a while, which in an of itself, was something of a first.
>"You got issues man..." he finally said.
>Alastor laughed. "Who doesn't? But I don't regret it. I'd kill them all again if I could... I just wish I could have said goodbye to Mother..."
>It hadn't struck the Radio Demon just how tired he was until now
>Why had he done that? Why had he admitted that to this stuck up pompous butthole?
>But... not like it mattered. For a time, keeping an air of mystery had been important, but now, well, with everyone dead... it seemed pointless.
>Lute entered the room, keeping a straight face, but Alastor's story had made her feel something. He was still a bad person, but what sinners had gone through on earth to make them what they were, it just wasn't fair.
>She was glad her and her sisters had torn apart that pompous little shit, Lucifer. What he'd started in humanity, the sin he'd made them desire, it caused so much suffering every day. Like ruining the life of a small boy, in New Orleans.
>"If your mother went to heaven, we might be able to find her... I don't know." she finally mumbled.
>Adam nodded. "Not making any promises we can't keep, but like, I'll ask around. We'll see."
>Alastor stared for a long moment. raising an eyebrow. "..Why would you do that for me?"
>Adam got defensive. "I-Its not for YOU or anything! If your Mom is in Heaven, then she should get to see her son!"
>For the first time all day, Alastor felt slightly hopeful. His mother had been a good and faithful woman, if anyone deserved to be in heaven, it was her. If he could see her again, and tell her everything, that he was sorry, he didn't mean to disappear, he loved her, it would make all this worth it.
>"Well that would be nice..." he yawned, and flinched slightly as Adam reached for his ears.
>He withdrew his hand and looked away. "Sorry, if you don't want to-"
>"Actually..." he dipped his head towards the First Man and shifted his ears slightly forward. "I wouldn't mind a little scratch...
>Adam complied, and he closed his eyes and sighed with bliss.
>"You try, Lute! Its fun!" the Exorcist hesitantly gave him a scratch. He made a low little purring sound and leaned into it. Maybe he wouldn't leave right away after all...
>the ear scratch
c-cute...
Glorious
>As Alastor sprawled across the bottom of the bed, he felt himself drifting away into sleep. Too much had happened today, too much... being outmatched in combat for the first time, recovering from severe injury, dragged through different spiritual realms, given a full belly and an emotional panic attack to go with it, combined with being treated without a hint of fear for the first time in centuries, too much had shifted and changed. He was briefly thankful for the silly little costume they made him wear, mostly because it was warm and fuzzy, and would be great to sleep in.
>As he was making himself comfortable, he felt Adam rubbing behind his ears, and Lute gently petting down his back.
>"Its alright Ally, go to sleep, we won't let any mean hunters hurt you, right Lute?"
>Lute huffed as Alastor began to snore softly.
>"Why did he have to be all pathetic and shit and make us pity him?"
>Adam sighed. "Tell me about it, now I don't even want to make him eat grass..."
>"Well there's always tomorrow." she said, halfsmirking before she got undressed and slipped into an old T-shirt and sweatpants for sleep. Adam just went shirtless, with pajama pants.
>"Can I be little spoon this time?" she asked hopefully.
>"Ughhhh, fine..." he sighed, and crawled into bed above Alastor, who stirred, but didn't rise.
>Adam wrapped his arms around his second-in-command and she leaned into him, closing her eyes.
>"So do you like the new pet?"
>"He's got a lot of baggage..." Adam mumbled. "But hes kinda fun."
>She smiled as she went to sleep. "Taking him was your idea..." she reminded him.
>"I know!" he whispered, back at her. "and soon he'll be our snuggly little buddy, just you watch..." he whispered.
>"Anyway... goodnight Lute."
>"Goodnight Adam..."
> Make him eat grass
they should definitely do that. Maybe make him wear a maid outfit or something next. or a nun outfit.
(Alright guys, fair warning. This is gonna be sad.)
>Meanwhile...
>Charlie was up to her ankles in golden and red blood, screams and carnage everywhere, Adam fighting her tooth and nail, when suddenly, hope!
>Dad was there, he pushed the First Man back, driving him further and further, he was winning!
>Just as the tide began to turn, a flash of black and white streaked across the blood-red sky and crashed into Satan.
>Caught completely off guard, Lucifer went sprawling, trailing golden blood as he crashed into the dirt.
>She heard herself scream as Lute drove down at him, and Lucifer, on the backfoot, parried desperately with his staff. He was the better fighter, but she'd caught him off guard. But how...? Vaggie had been dealing with her... if she was here, what had-
>"Ch-Charlie..."
>She turned around and felt relief wash over her. Vaggie was there, still alive and holding... why was she holding her neck?
>Her hand fell away and a gush of golden angelic blood sprayed free, her pale skin and clothes stained as she fell to her knees.
>Charlie ran to her side and caught her before she hit the dirt. No, no no no she couldn't have lost, she couldn't! It couldn't end like this!
>"She... she got me... I-I'm sorry... I didn't fight h-hard... enough."
>"No..." Charlie whimpered through the tears. "No its ok... you'll be ok... d-don't die on me Vaggie, I love you! PLEASE!!!"
"Charlie... I..." she reached to touch the Princess of Hell's face, to profess her love one, final time... and then her eyes got glassy, and she was still, arm falling limply to her chest.
>As if on que, Lute came crashing to the ground a few feet away, rolling to her feet as Lucifer came on.
>She caught his staff with her sword, and they braced, eye to eye.
>"I'm going to clip your wings little exor- AH!!"
>Lucifer's taunt was clipped short as Adam's holy light struck him from behind, burning clean through his chest and leaving a hole the size of a dinner plate.
>Naked shock played across his features as he staggered back, staff falling from limp fingers.
>"Oh..." he mumbled. Then turned, and saw Charlie kneeling there, her lover's head in her lap, eyes wide as she watched her father die.
>"Sorry... sweetie... I tried..." Then his knees gave out from under him, and he topped forward, to lay in the red and gold mud.
>The tide had turned. She looked around in shock, taking it in as everything she ever loved and believed in was destroyed.
>Angel Dust was still firing his tommygun when Lute's sword took him full in the chest. "This kinda penetration... d-don't feel so good..."
>Husker was backing towards a wall, throwing his last card at the exorcist coming at him. It missed entirely. The axe she drove through his belly did not. "One last run of bad luck... f-figures..." the return stroke took off his head.
>Nifty was roughly grabbed up, and squealed as the exorcist laughed and impaled her on a spear.
>Pentious was cut apart by half a dozen angels trying to shield Cherri from their wrath. He was still fighting with a sword through his belly when the Aussie demoness' set off all her bombs at once, and killed herself, Pentious, and their 6 assailants in one raging fireball.
>The cannibals routed to no avail. The Legions of Divinity cut them down as they fled, like wolves chasing sheep. Soon all of Hell was screams, blood, fire, and death.
>Charlie simply knelt there, holding Vaggie's corpse. She fought when they came to chain her up, but a few rough punches to her face and she was too dizzy and in pain to do anything but cry while Lute bound her in chains and cut the head free of Vaggie's shoulders.
>This was all her fault...
TOTAL CHARLIE REVENGE incoming
>Charlie...
>All her fault... if she hadn't insisted on this stupid "dream..."
>CHARLIE!!!
>Sera's voice broke her daze.
>Everyone was looking at her. An assembled council of high ranking angels had gathered, to decide what to do after the most recent, most... thorough purge in history.
>"Remembering" she said numbly, face devoid of emotion.
>"Right..." Sera said. "We were trying to ask you, do you feel as though you could run Hell now? After your father's... well..."
>"Murder?" she snapped.
>"...Death." the Seraphim replied, not meeting eye contact.
>"Whatever..." she mumbled. "Can you just kill me..."
>"No..." Sera said. "We need you Charlie. We need someone to rule. We need order, so nothing gets this out of hand again.
>Part of her knew she was right. There would be more people in Hell, and someone would need to keep it controlled. Orderly. Someone to oversee everything... or this could happen again.
>"5 years."
>"What?" Sera was confused.
>"No exterminations for 5 years... then I'll do it."
>Sera hesitated, but one at the end of the table spoke up. He was a tall angel with wavy chestnut hair and a fair face.
>"Give her as she requests. There has been enough of an extermination already, and there will not be another overpopulation crisis for some time. There is no reason to continue besides wanton slaughterlust. Bloodshed for bloodshed's sake is not our way."
>Murmurs of agreement down the table, but another angel, with short curly blonde locks, and a hard, stern countenance, spoke out.
>"I would say that this is not far enough, Gabriel. Adam does war for his own vengeance, but I would settle for no less than scourging of the damned plains of the Underworld. All Hellborn must be slain as well. Everlasting fire should be their only refuge."
>Sera looked uncomfortable. "I don't know, Michael... we'll call a vote."
And so they did, and in the end, Gabriel won out, by a slim margin. Michael sat, stoic, yet Charlie could tell he was disappointed.
This makes me wish there'll be a high tier angelic character who wants Hell gone. Would be dumb if there isn't.
Next season we'll probably get something like that. They gotta have conflict somehow.
if it were an actual high tier archangel a vote wouldnt stop him from decimating hell to less than dust. Especially Michael. He could go down there drunk and on drugs, fight all of Hell with one arm and kill everyone in less than a minute
Michael probably could but until Big Daddy God says so, nothing of the sort will happen.
Why won't he say so?
"Mysterious Ways", b***h.
I kinda hope that Vivzie just keeps this in a psuedo-Catholic "heaven" idea and doesn't actually involve anyone besides saints and angels because if Jesus and God were in the show it'd be so sacreligious that it would become unwatchable.
Most likely correct.
Also, I hope she read James Blish's novels on a related topic.
It would amp up the grimdark.
Paradise Lost and Dante's Inferno are great reads for if you want to write HH fanfiction. There's a lot of stuff from those books you can headcanon into HH and it fits fine. Wonderful idea mine.
I just like the idea of how souls, angels and demons are explained to be a possible reality.
And the implication that, having this figured out, mortals could pop them like soap bubbles if given some time. (In the novels that time is not provided due to full-scale nuclear war).
Dante walked so Vivziepop could run
Dante would hate this show so much dude its unreal, though he might like Adam. He'd probably be grossed out by how carnal and curse-happy Adam is, but the sheer level of demon-hate is a strong vibe in The Inferno. His arc in that book is basically losing empathy and learning to be happy that everyone who is in hell is suffering.
Right now I like the show but I'm giving it so much benefit of the doubt that if I took everything in the script with a grain of salt, I could turn the Atlantic into the Dead Sea. There's some concepts that I find interesting like the angels not knowing what gets someone into heaven but zealous in the the belief they're right being a mirror of catholics and Christians who don't read the Bible but are quick to judge sinners for sinning more obvious than them. Or Lucifer being as cynical as he is because he only sees the worst free will has to offer. Or hell even the concept that the irredeemable can improve if they look for it. And I think it's interesting but S2 will make or break the series for me depending on whether this Vizie lady can follow up with it. Though admittedly I haven't seen Helluva Boss or researched the person yet, I just finished the HH a week ago.
Same. Also I hope they tone down the sex jokes. They became so tiresome that basically the only time I was smiling watching the show was either when Pentious or Adam was on screen. Everyone else was too horny or too close to other horny characters to be fun, and Angel Dust got old after like 3 episodes.
I began to like Angel Dust a bit more after I noticed he was cutting down on the sex jokes after his episode. Which is good on the writers to realize they couldn't make him do a 180 but glamorizing his porn star attitude after that might be a bit of a faux pas. But Charlie and Alastor swearing, while it did perk my ears up, didn't have the impact it should have because there's so much fricking swearing in this fricking show that my fricking ears didn't fricking notice that fricking Alastor fricking said frick at the final fricking episode. Even writing that sentence made the word lose meaning after a bit. I know the show is in Hell and therefore the humor needs to be a certain level of edgy. But the Hell in this show is basically just Detroit, I'm certain whoever does dialogue in this show can open a thesaurus every other episode.
Adam was one of the worst culprits when it came to spewing sex jokes though?
>Adam was one of the worst
Different anon, but is he, though? Adam uses lots of coarse language and brags about his sexual prowess. Angel Dust's jokes are mostly innuendo and situational humour from other guys reacting to his come-ons. They're both lewd frickers but I can see why writing clever dialogue for Angel is harder.
Yea but his intense chauvinism and violent hatred of literally everything else in the show made him feel fresh and enjoyable to watch.
>Charlie left the meeting room, and Emily was by her side in an instant.
>"Charlie, Charlie! Look... I heard what happened and... its just too much. I can't believe they killed all those people..."
>"Of course they did..." Charlie sighed. "I should've done better, done something different. Maybe if I had been more lowkey... hadn't pushed as hard... things wouldn't have escalated...
>Emily frowned and stopped Charlie in her tracks, holding her shoulders and looking into her eyes.
>"Listen to me. You didn't do anything wrong. This was a crime... this was evil... I can't believe the others allowed this to happen... I can't believe Adam could go through with it... but I'm not going to just watch as it gets worse. I want to help. Please... I want to do something good."
>Charlie thought about it for a long moment, and decided she needed allies... any allies.
>"Just lay low for now... but if you want to help, tell me if something happens. If someone is coming, or you hear of them doing something to watch me... tell me. Thats what you can do."
>Emily looked concerned. "What are you planning...?"
>"I... I can't wage war on heaven." she said after a moment. "But if I can hurt... or kill Adam... maybe that would stop him from doing this again. I just need to find out how..."
>Emily was conflicted. This would put her against everyone she knew... but... it didn't matter who she knew. She was an angel. She existed to do what was right... what Adam had done, wasn't.
>"Ok... I'll let you know if I hear anything... good luck down there."
>"I guess I'll go see whats left." she said, the portal to Hell opening behind her.
>"Oh and Emily?"
>"Yes?"
>"Watch Michael closely... if he gets his way, its all over."
>Without saying anything else, Charlie entered the portal, and stepped onto the grounds of her destroyed dream, to bury her dead friends, and to finally cry, where nobody could see...
Total ArchAngel Micheal Victory
Irl hell yes, in my story... maybe idk how sad I want it to be. Alastor, Adam, and Lute's dynamic is WAY more fun to write than grimdark Charlie though.
>charlie avenging her father by killing michael
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>Alastor woke up slowly, groggily. This wasn't his room... why wasn't he in the hot-
>The battle. The fighting. Getting taken to heaven under Adam's yoke, the uncomfortable yet oddly comforting afternoon. The panic attack... the weird bonding experience, it all came back in a rush, and he groaned, stretching as he looked around the room.
>The beautiful golden shine of heaven's early morning light was just coming through the window. Adam was snoring, and Alastor had been sleeping at his feet. Lute wasn't anywhere to be seen... but he could smell bacon and eggs, and pancakes... and felt his mouth water.
>Water... water... oh, yea, a shower would be nice...
>He crawled up the bed and poked Adam in the chest with his antlers a few times.
>"Huh... wha- AH WHAT THE F- Oh right... Ally..."
>"Would you stop calling me that?"
>"Yea like... maybe, if I feel like it."
>"I wanted to take a shower... if thats allowed."
>"Oh uh, yea, sure... right in there..." he pointed to the door at the other end of the room and Alastor walked in, looking around at the large bathtub/shower combo, golden shower head and toilet, Adam's signature A on most of it, and a big mirror on the wall. Alastor took off his silly little deer onsie, and stepped into the shower, turning on the tap and sighing with relief as the warm water washed over him.
>At the same time, Adam got up and stumbled into the adjoining bathroom down the hall to wash up for the day himself.
>Lute, not realizing Adam was in the other bathroom, and not the shower, walked back into the bedroom, and opened the bathroom door with no warning.
>"Adam, breakfast is- AH FRICK-"
>"GET OUT!!!" Alastor snapped.
>Lute slammed the door shut, then thought about what she'd seen. She hadn't gotten a good look but... she could have sworn...
>She got down on her knees and looked through the keyhole. Holy shit. He had a tail.
>Alastor had a cute little deer tail.
>"ADAM!!! GET IN HERE!!!"
Adam and Lute treating Alastor like he’s an angsty son is hilarious.
Nothing snaps an edgelord back to normal faster than just not taking him seriously.
>TAIL
YES YES YES, IT BEGINS!
I figured "He has ears, so a tail is only natural, right?"
Besides, writing Adam and Lute teasing him about wagging his tail while hes trying to pretend to be mad and angsty is gonna be so fun
I wonder if Lute and Adam would be morning for Vaggie and the dead exorcist.
They'd be too happy with total victory to think about it much, and Adam literally ordered them to take Vaggie's head so I don't think he has any nostalgia for her.
You may think that, but Adam tried to make Vaggie realize the errors of her ways and comeback to Heaven. He also called her the best thing ever.
The fact Vaggie offended him and Lute so much are signs they truly did love her.
What? Adam watched as Lute gouged out her eye and ripped off her wings. He doesn't express any guilt for her or even send exorcists back for her or even had anyone watching over her while she was in Hell. He only went back for her after Sera told Adam to get Charlie under control. So he could weaken Charlie's position and make it harder to argue the merits of the Hazbin Hotel. Which worked, Charlie basically had to solo that entire trial and at the apex of her argument Adam dropped the angel reveal which stopped Charlie cold. Not that Sera was ever going to let the damned have an avenue of salvation or even stop the extermination but Charlie was able to reveal enough hypocrisy to sow discord in the heavenly court.
Point being I don't think Adam as we know him is a "good guy." Maybe he used to be but just as damned souls can get better, divine souls seemingly can get worse.
> Adam watched as Lute gouged out her eye and ripped off her wings. He doesn't express any guilt for her or even send exorcists back for her or even had anyone watching over her while she was in Hell.
He knew the duties and Vaggie went against them.
Adam and Lute quickly hindered her and left behind because she rebelled and they had to move on from her. It’s done swiftly and emotionlessly because they didn’t want to do it, but they had to.
They left Vaggie alone in Hell in the hopes that if she did see how Hell was normally like, she would’ve regretted her actions.
Remember, Adam has to let go everyone he ever cares about once God deems them as evil. Especially Eve. He’s too used to this, but it still hurts for him.
I mean if you want to believe that go ahead bro
Leave him, it's the Adamschizo
>He’s too used to this, but it still hurts for him.
He's portrayed as a narcissist, how is it supposed to be obvious to viewers that he actually secretly cares..?
A narcissist who wouldn’t say that his deeds made him good enough to enter and remain Heaven?
That’s a massive contradiction to his entire persona.
He often makes a lot of big claims and doesn’t actually indulge in them. He didn’t write down his name in his little papers, did he, mr. “I love putting my name on shit. It’s the best” Adam.
You’re thinking of things the wrong way. Adam and Lute are the angels who takes their duties to the uppermost extremes, which is what God desires and allows them to always come back to Heaven (the Cherubs establishes that God doesn’t play around or give a damn phony “good” personalities).
To God, Charlie is the perfect tool to test the Heavens and their faith on his judgements. So if the Angels went against Adam, it would ironically cause them to fall instead.
It’s like being against King David for performing God-ordained genocides and not being sure if he was good enough to be in Heaven. You deserve to be kicked out of Heaven for not being as good as David and for your lack of faith for God’s will and judgements. Because David would honor the father and you wouldn’t in his position.
>He came into the room still shirtless in sweatpants from sleep, toothpaste on still on his face. "Wha- what?! What is it- oooohhhh, did you walk in on deer boy in the shower?
>"No- yes, look you won't believe this sir, but uh... he has a deer tail!" she said, giggling.
>"b***h shut the frick up, no way dude." he said, grinning ear to ear and wiping his mouth.
>"No seriously, for real! I thought you were in the shower so I walked in and... I saw it..." she suppressed another giggle. "Do you think it wags when hes happy or excited?"
>"Haha frick that would be hilarious!"
>"I CAN HEAR YOU!!!" Alastor's voice came from the bathroom, shower now off.
>Lute quickly grabbed a spare pair of pants and a shirt (with Adam's A on it, ubiquitously), but not before cutting a decisively tail-sized hole in the butt of the pants. Then she opened the door just wide enough to put them down on the counter, and then retreated back, this time respecting his privacy and not looking.
>There was a pause, and then an angry growl.
>"I am NOT going out there with my tail exposed for you to gawk at!"
>"Well those are the only clothes you're getting... so unless you'd rather be naked, get your skinny little ass out here and show Dad that tail!
>"You're really going to make me aren't you?" he said after a sigh.
>"Yes!"
>There was another pause, and then Alastor stepped out, ears down, hair still damp from the shower, and his tail sticking out of the butt of the pants, bright red and bushy.
>Adam fell over laughing and Lute actually said "Awww!" and Alastor could swear all the blood in his body went into his cheeks.
>"This is EXACTLY why I hide it... everyone always reacts like this."
>"But its so fluffy!" Lute said, pointing at it with a big grin.
>"DUDE ITS SO FRICKING FLUFFY" Adam said through peels of laughter.
>Alastor hid his head in his hands and groaned.
>Yes, yes, I have a very fluffy cute tail, it is very adorable, yes, I know, can we PLEASE eat breakfast now..."
>Charlie spent months trying to get people to be slightly less awful.
>Adam and Lute completely buck broke Alastor in a couple of days like he’s their bratty son.
I mean if you remember, it was established early on that he has a collar on that doesn't let him do any of his freaky demon shit so he kinda just has to sit there and take it.
>Adam and Lute knows that the Apple makes Alastor feel shame from nakedness. They themselves don’t mind it.
>They take advantage of it.
Such a wild couple.
Cant wait for them to force him to use/ learn to use a cell phone.
that has got to be a massive shirt if its Adams if anything Alastor is more the size of Lute if anything.
In their fight scene wasn't Adam like, slightly shorter?
Alastor can change his height with his powers. and all the scenes with charlie he towers over her so. alastor is a shortie.
(Hey lets just pretend that Alastor isn't also in a deal in this AU because even though everyone thinks its Lillith we don't know anything about her really so even if it is I don't wanna make up a bunch of bs about an established character and also toss that into this plot)
>Breakfast managed to go on for 5 minutes in polite silence before Adam said "So does it wag when you're happy?"
>Alastor's fork began to bend in his hand and his teeth creaked as he tensed with rage.
>"One more question about my tail and I'm going to throw this breakfast clean through your TV."
>"I could just get a new one in like literally a snap of my fingers but fine, whatever." Adam said, shrugging. "You know I might go ask around town about your mom today. See if I can find her."
>Alastor didn't realize his tail started wagging excitedly. "Really?"
>Lute noticed and grinned knowingly. "You'd like that huh?"
>"Well yes I-" he followed her eyes and blushed again. "DAMN IT"
>Adam started laughing again and Alastor stood up to storm off but the First Man managed to calm himself down.
>"Hey hey come on haha, hahaha frick... sorry... its just really funny how flustered you get..."
>The Radio Demon sighed and sat down. "Yes I suppose I would probably laugh too... but I am not accustomed to being the subject of the joke."
>"Well, for what its worth Alastor, its all in good fun."
>"...you used my name."
>"Well yea!" he said, grabbing Alastor by the neck and nuzzling his antlered head with his knuckles
>"We're buddies, right? I'm your owner, and you're my little deer guy!"
>Alastor smiled a little, despite himself. Now he knew how Husker felt...The irony made him laugh.
>When he laughed, Adam laughed, and by the end, he felt a little better.
>"Do you really think you can find her? My mother?"
>"Hey, if anyone can do it, its me!" he said. "You think you'll be alright with Lute here for a little while?"
>She smirked. "Hes not going anywhere, I can tell you that for sure..."
when are they gonna make him eat grass? also lol.
All in good time anon (Probably in a couple greentexts, I'm gonna make em hang out in the garden)
Ofc fren! I'll be back from the gym soon. I was just waiting for the next thread
Anon can you compile all you've written so far?
I've already done so, been collecting everything in a notepad file, just in case. I just don't know where to post it...
Just post it on AO3
Okay, just for compiling purposes though. The format of the story is kinda set in grentext at this point I feel like it'd be jarring to swap it to standard format.
No biggie, some fics on AO3 look like they are chatrooms.
Cinemaphile writegays used to use pastebin. That or one of its copycats could work.
I think they want you to pay for an account now
Oh wow. I'f heard they pissed a bunch of people off for deleting proprietary code, but not that. Guess they're totally pozzed.
My complaint with pastebin is a lack of support for things like italics
I prefer to just copy and paste from my google doc and be done
It's not that jarring but it's annoying to delete all the > but personally I love the style of greentexts anyway because it lends itself to a simpler style good for the flow
I think that's primarily why I've been so good at just spamming new parts to this, when I write fanfiction in standard form, I feel a compulsion to explain and describe everything, and it becomes mentally exhausting to the point where I end up becoming overwhelmed and abandon the project.
Keeping everything focused around character interaction and dialogue makes the writing way more fun, imo.
Exactly anon exactly
My "real" fics get out of control so fast I'm 4k deep in something that I wanted to be a quick smut fic but I never learn my lesson lol
Here I can just greentext as anon and if something sucks or I make a mistake I don't feel the same amount of pressure I put on myself
It's a rewarding and not a bad pressure but sometimes I just wanna unleash the autism RAW
Wait till the next thread then lol, it will be better
If you're wondering, Charlie didn't see it happen, but in this AU, the butterfly effect change that caused this is that when Lute smashed Vaggie's head into the table in their fight, she ended that combo by slashing her throat down to the bone. Once Vaggie was incapacitated, Lute was free to assist Adam in fighting Lucifer, and together, combined with the element of surprise (as Lucifer was already engaged fighting Adam when Lute blindsided him) they were able to kill him. Once Lucifer fell, the exorcists rallied, and the Hellborn began to lose hope. It was just mass rout and ensuing mopup butchery after that.
Just a little correction
Lucifer =/= Satan in this setting
oof. I like to mix up terms for characters in my writing because I've found that when you use a character's name repeatedly it can become tiresome to read it, and when you just use pronouns in scenes involving many characters, it can be confusing.
My B.
Fun fact; in most settings regarding Christianity, Satan is in fact NOT Lucifer whatsoever, but rather is a form of "suffering personified" for those that are sentenced, or rather cursed to the depths of Hell.
So yes, you're correct that Satan is not Lucifer in this setting, that's also accurate to Christianity overall.
>This kinda penetration... d-don't feel so good...
Im suprised that Adam didnt take Angel Dust as well. he is cute.
I just really didn't want to write Angel Dust because to write him accurately I have to come up with a preferably homosexual sex joke like every 2 lines.
truly the hardest part of being a writegay. keep it up though, the story is getting good.
Indeed. I feel obligated to portray the characters as accurately as possible. Its a struggle.
I'm probably gonna go with mostly option 2 because of what
said but I might still have a part towards the end where he reconciles with his mom. Would be sweet.
Why do Alastor threads always smell like period blood?
>why does the tumblr demonic sexy man smell like periods
Dunno man, shits a mystery
I'm glad I get to witness this madness before I go away forever.
where are you going anon
Why do Lute threads smell like semen
Quit snorting your own period blood anon, don't you know you're supposed to make sigils with it and then burn it? Fricking newbies.
I'm still waiting for a gojo incident but with alistor marketable plush
what is a gojo incident
Think he means when Gojo gets literally split in half
He’s Onceler in hell design wise
I want to watch alastor get shot in the head again
need drunk charlie fanfic
What would Al look like with a big mustache?
He was drawn so adorably in the pilot
why do gay furries keep drawing husk fat
bara
he should be a husky man.
femlastor > alastor
No
i ship it
Was there ANYONE in the pilot that got improved in the series? only one I can think of is Keith David voicing Husker
Charlie overall was an improvement (don't give a frick that she's not "soft" anymore), Vaggie's new outfit is better, Keith David as Husk is good. Roman Blake does good as Angel.
Adam x Lulu
Only 8 episodes
I am ready to indulge in all my deer thoughts and maybe some Vee thoughts too happy Friday
>while he hid in radio we pivoted to video
why is this part so catchy
My favorite part is when Vox says, "you OLD TIMEY PRICK!" the sheer anger in his voice is so gold I love Vox's voice
>I love Vox's voice
Same. He's a standout for me too and I'm not even a Voxgay. He chews scenery beautifully.
Can Charlie fix Alastor with her boobs
with her squishy cheeks
Does Charlie have those red circles on her asscheeks too
No, she has red handprints on them
How am I supposed to take him seriously when he's got fluffy cute ears and can pull off a dress so well?
>Characters in pilots change
Wow! What a revelation!
needs to be raped
MAKE THE TAIL CANON VIV
>Charlie in a nun outfit
Daw
>adam thread deleted before i could properly post in it.
cant have shit in Detroit
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I found that one Alastorgay's embarassing fanfic
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LMFAOO
I love him so much, I wish he was the protagonist
Overlord Husker spin-off when?
A movie would be neat
Dr. Seuss looking ass
a sidestory of him working at a bar and hearing different stories from the denizens of hell would be nice
Petting Alastor's ears!
Erotic ear rubs from the Charlie
Yes.
she's sucking the base of his ear
(Pic related is the truck mentioned. Manufactured in 1930, seems like the kind of thing Alastor might drive. Classy and sleek, and some room to dispose of corpses in back)
>Alastor apparently is not particularly big on oral hygiene, with Vivziepop describing his breath as "not good"[73], and Faustisse making reference to his having black gums.[note 9]
Alastor canonically has bad breath
It would make sense. Sinners I imagine are naturally not good people, so why would most of them give a shit when they're already in Hell?
Not to mention someone like Alastor having bad breath would make a lot of sense, I can imagine human flesh doesn't have the most amazing after-smell when digesting inside the stomach of a deranged serial killer cannibal.
I hope the Voxsis is still around and sees this sorry it took so long also this turned out way longer than I intended but LOVE VOX!
>Be you, fourth Vee
>Vox has been especially stressed with work lately and so you conspire with Val and Vel to get him to go on a vacation to a newly opened resort
>The resort is called Earthslice and offers a variety of vacation packages in a huge controlled environment, mainly relying on holograms and a giant screen that overtakes nearly the entire room and the whole ceiling to create the illusion of being somewhere in the world of the living
>Vox doesn't really seem to care where you "go" and chooses "the beach"
>It's your responsibility to vacation with him and make sure he enjoys himself!
>You enter the beach room together, which has authentic sand for flooring, and there's a bright blue sky cast overhead
>Vox doesn't seem too thrilled, but you're amazed how realistic it is...until you try to lean against a palm tree to adjust your sandals and fall flat on your ass
>"Don't hurt yourself." He laughs at you and sits on a reclining beach chair, relaxing back and doing something on his phone.
>He's dressed up for a vacation in a gaudy Hawaiin shirt and shark patterned swimming trunks but he is wearing the same stressed expression as always.
>He does look very, very handsome though...it's rare to see him exposing this much skin
>You sit next to him on your knees and lay your head on his shoulder. "What are you doing?"
>He's got an app open detailing the stock market and a bunch of calculations with business lingo that you don't entirely understand because that stuff isn't your job
>"Voooox," you whine, lightly butting your head against the side of his monitor. "C'mon you're supposed to be relaxing!"
>"How?" He doesn't even looking at you. "This whole beach is fricking fake anyway."
>"Voooox."
>"Whaaaat?" He says in a mocking tone.
"Sweetheart, look, I know you guys are well meaning sending me here but I can't be convinced by this fake fricking environment. It doesn't even smell like the ocean."
>"You can't even smell, though."
>"That's not the point." He sits up with a sigh and motions out to the virtual ocean, the island in the distance, and the floating silhouettes of seagulls. "The water hologram is playing on a three second loop and look the illusion of the wind swaying the palm trees isn't consistent with the bird shadows. This whole thing is a giant scam. Can you really not tell?"
>"Um...I never actually saw the ocean back on Earth. And I wasn't thinking that hard about it." Somehow, you feel stupid for trying to help because now that he's pointed out the inconsistencies you can't unsee them.
>"Really?" Vox puts his phone in the drink holder and sits up, resting a hand on top of your head. "You never went to the ocean ever?"
>"No."
>"I used to go." He looks out towards the hologram, no doubt remembering the real thing. "At least a few times a year."
>"Really? That often?" It was an unspoken rule that none of you really spoke about your human lives--you certainly didn't want to go into detail, but it was just the two of you right now.
>Vox replies in a quiet voice, "yeah. That often."
>Maybe it could be a special secret.
>"Were you super important?" You ask, reaching up and putting your hand on top of his. "I mean. You've always been super important, but y'know..."
>"Well," he smirks down at you, his ego buzzing back to life with a crack of his speakers. "Of course I was. I'd visit the most expensive resorts--real resorts--and I'd be the guest of fricking honor thanks to the influence of my...the empire that I worked so hard to build. Yeah, we'll call it that."
>His voice trails off again. He doesn't want to tell you too much.
>That's alright.
>He clears his throat. "Anyway, I had so much of the real thing back on Earth I don't care for this fake shit and it isn't gonna convince me or help me relax. Besides, if this is the beach, where are the sexy women? The beach prostitutes? That was half the fun of even going."
>You playfully elbow him and mock offense. "I'm right here!"
>"You're just one sexy woman."
>"Just?! I'll show you..." You pull the lever on his chair, forcing it from lounge to sitting position, and crawl between his legs.
>He watches you with a trickle of red saliva dripping down his mouth, resting the side of his head on his palm.
>You nuzzle your face against the crotch of his shorts, satisfied that he's already half hard.
>You waste no time pulling the waistband down, freeing his huge blue wiener and taking the head into your mouth.
>You work your hand along the shaft as you swirl your tongue along the inside of his foreskin with an exaggerated hum.
>"Yeah, j-just like that..." Vox presses the back of your head and shoves his wiener into the back of your throat.
>It's big enough to choke you now, but you happily take him stabbing your esophagus
>It's thick and blocking your airway, so you bob your head and have to space out your breathing
>"Frick..." He hisses and starts thrusting his hips ever so slightly to meet your rhythm "Such a good little girl, yes you are..."
>He's praising you like you're some sort of small animal which is your favorite kind of praise.
>You can't fight gagging against him as his length starts thrusting into your throat, stretching it painfully, but you persist despite the tears flowing down your face
>You can feel his flesh pulsing and slide your hands up his shirt to feel his chest.
>His abs are always so tight and his muscle is just the right amount of lean
>Vox is so sexy and you love him so much you're so happy--so honored--to be taking his dick down your throat
>The salty taste of his precum at the end of your tongue has you swirling it around his girth the best you can
>All at once he pushes your head back and pulls out of your mouth, thick threads of your saliva still stuck to him
>He aims directly at your face and cums, spurting his light blue seed all over your face and down your chest
>His face glitches out for a split second as he strains and pushes out every drop.
>You let it happen, shutting your eyes and whimpering because you had wanted him to cum in your mouth!
>But you won't be a brat about it. Not today.
>Vox chuckles, his audio ebbing between static and clear
>He sits back and sighs, his shoulders slouching, and he finally looks relaxed for the first time today
>You wipe your eyes and stare at him, offering a small smile. "Was that 'beach prostitute' enough?"
>He laughs affectionately, pixel hearts flashing in his eyes. "Yes."
>Gliding your tongue along the collection of cum in your hand, he nudges you with his knee. "Go wash it off."
>"Oh. Right."
>You stand up and run over to the shore, kicking off your sandals and running waist deep into...nothing.
>Pixels dance across your skin.
>Vox bursts out laughing, holding his sides, and although you cross your arms and puff your cheeks at first you can't hold it--you giggle into your fist.
>He got you!
>You walk back over next to him and sit on his lap. "Okay. You got me."
>"You should've seen the look on your face."
>An imp employee emerges from the set of doors at the end of the room, saying nothing but laying a stack of fresh towels by the chair and quickly scurrying back off.
>Of course they'd have cameras here...you wonder if Vox had really allowed the staff to watch that whole incident.
>He wraps his arm around you and pulls you close to him, grabbing a towel and rubbing it along your chest.
>When no one is looking, Vox is a great lover. Sometimes.
>"Vox, Tell me more about what the real beach is like?"
>"I'd rather just show you, Sweetie. One day."
>One day, yes...when the Vees have achieved their ultimate goal and Heaven and Hell are all theirs--yours--overtaking the Earth will be a walk in the park!
The End<3
i liked this a lot! good job writefren
Thank you anon I'm glad you liked it!
Vox is so so so...
Oh that was me!!!! Thank you anon, this is really good. I always look forward to your writings!
You are more than welcome Voxsis hopefully I have another little something done some time tonight that is Vees centric...
Writegay requesting something with Velvette. She doesn't get any attention and I think it'd be neat to see her.
I was planning to include something with her too but idk if it will be porn
It will be gay though
I would actually prefer if it wasn't porn, but why gay? It doesn't list her as having any sexuality at all on the wiki
Would you accept velvox? NTA but I'm a writegay
Sure bro, it'd be neat to have Vox not be either thirsting for Alastor or being sus with Val for once.
Cute! I should really post my own shit
You should anon! I'd love to read it
Well what I'm writing already has porn in it and gay because my reader character is a girl but that said the Vees are a poly so I'd say I think she's bisexual she'd just be doing gay stuff with reader
Whats your shit I'm curious
Anyone wanna help me name an OC? Dubs names him.
>Demonic Brown bear labor organizer
>Yakuza dress, Italian attitude.
>Makes his friends, allies, even vague associates feel like rock stars when he walks in the room.
>Realm of influence slowly growing.
>Lean Sumo strong.
>Carries club made from some fake tough guy's demon beetle horn.
Dago
>Gonna unionize these prostitutes
I laughed
Rolling for the name Big Appalachia
>Big Appalachia
I chuckled.
Jimmy Hoffa
Cuppy T.
Sir Honey Havoc
WE HAVE A WINNER. For real though, these were all great. Thank you all.
I am happy to help anon I hope you share more of him and other OCs with us
More anons should be posting their OCs too
>All his friends, and boy does he have a lot of friends, call him "Hon."
...please take a theology course
Please understand current reality
>Voxal
>It's a 'intimidating and scary member of the main-cast gets de-aged' episode.
I want to see shota alastor dominate
I need this episode to be a real thing, at least in writing, but how creepy do I want to get with it is the question
The answer is probably shota Alastor fricking (you) and making you cum over and over while teasing you about the fact that it gets you off to have a little boy inside of you
Yup
>monocle
>not his old glasses when he was alive
Missed
Say no to this?
no one in their right mind would say no to that.
I need more Al guro
There is something extra diabolical about human Al that I cannot put my finger on
Like yes demon Al is stronger and more powerful and has close to a hundred years of uninhibited killing on his side but his predecessor is the root of it all
It was the darkness in his heart that planted the seed for demon Al to grow and yet he had no idea of the monster he would become in the next life
He could not have fathomed the power he'd have in hell, could not have seen his greater immortal ambitions...and yet he persisted, for the sake of satiating that hunger within him, feeding the beast that was himself
>all of those trigger warnings plastered at the top of the page
What kind of homosexual shit I'm not reading all that into the trash it goes
its diabolical because he's human, demons are meant to be evil so it doesn't hit as hard
Psychopathic Human > Hell Demon
I find human Al's smugness without any of the power backing it up more intimidating tbh, never mind that it's more fricked for him to be a serial killer when he was just a normal human being.
Yeah I think that's it!
I know he practiced witchcraft as a human but even taking the voodoo into account he wasn't immortal and yet he was still out there killing people for the thrill of it
>imagining if Al could just transform into his human form as an illusion for jokes
The teasing would never stop
if Al could just transform into his human form as an illusion for jokes
I don't think he would, I feel like he would think his human self was weak or pathetic and wanna distance himself from that.
I agree but I was thinking in terms of...nevermind
I feel like he should be more ashamed that he's a deer, the most moronic animals on earth.
NTA but deer are so moronic where I live there are signs by the road in some areas that caution drivers to look out for them and I've had to break for them plenty of times
deer kill more people in the united states than any other animal (its mosquitos worldewide tho)
>they do this by getting hit by cars and dying with them
absolutely 0 IQ creatures
I find it funny that theyre so deadly...in such a stupid way.
I want to see alastor getting hit by a car
>Alastor accidentally defeats Adam by getting hit by his car while the latter is out for a country drive
There new forms are a punishment. You can't shake a punishment, least of all not with something as stupid as "voodoo"
So the angelic weapons can actually kill souls permanently, but can the overlords permanently kill people too?
If they have an angelic weapon, most likely. Carmilla does sell them willy nilly, so if a schmuck has enough souls to trade in, they are good to go on angelic weaponry.
Can they do it without the weapon though, if the other person is just a normal soul there? No I guess?
Sinners respawn if they are killed by anything other than an angelic weapon. It's apparently a slow and very painful process.
Man that's gotta be frustrating if you have to keep killing the same butthole over and over.
https://sexypedia.fandom.com/wiki/Alastor
I kinda miss the era when people wrote fics about people in the human world contracting with Alastor
that a cute page
Got a link to the full comic
how do I get an alastor dakimakura from vox?
Suppose we'll see any of the formerly human characters in their human versions on the show?
I really hope not.
There is no winning in showing human Alastor in particular.
>He keeps his current human design, which was approved by Viv years ago
"Viv is racist because he's white/not black enough."
>He gets a new design that is more black
"Viv is a backpedalling b***h and now the fandom is split in half with one half calling the other racist for not liking the new design"
Also the asian fandom would be angry and you don't want to piss them off
It's better to just leave the human designs to the imagination
To my fellow former dangangays:
What happened when we got Danganronpa 3's Despair Arc? Yeah exactly.
I hope the human pasts aren't explored in any great detail and especially not flashback episodes.
sadly for you they're exploring pentious past in season 2
There’s more of a point for Pentious’ character to have Cherri Bomb reveal her past than for Pentious to reveal his past.
this is fricking adorable and I need more of them hanging out like this
Radiorose is pretty popular, like all Al ships
I think it helps that Al genuinely seems to enjoy her company and lets her manhandle him.
Rather this ship than Alastor and Charlie. Simply to keep the pure mentor and student vibe going.
>getting deer nipples that wrong
Tell me you've never seen a deer in person without telling me you've never seen a deer in person.
Now now anon not everyone is from the woods, I once met a boy from Arizona who couldn't stop obsessing over trees
t. from bumfrick middle of nowhere
I once met someone who thought bulls were their own species and that both male and female bulls looked like bulls. They thought cows were their own separate thing.
Wasn't it stated somewhere that Alastor was really ashamed of his hooves?
I think it makes sense he'd at least somewhat despise being a deer since they are prey animals
He just had to get used to it
Okay I laughed, these poor city people and their total disconnect from nature...
Although I'm no better I get scared of being in big cities because I'm worried about the skyscrapers randomly tumbling down
I want to see Alastor being victim to his animal side now
>I want to see Alastor being victim to his animal side now
Wish we saw him stamp his foot threateningly after he got rekt by Adam.
I dislike being in cities because you feel like a cog in a giant machine. I feel worthless there.
>charlies breasts can fix al
I wonder if he feels compelled to walk into traffic and then walk even slower when he realizes cars are all around him waiting for him to move the frick out of the way.
I wonder if he ever gets panicked by sudden noises and tries to jump over a fence to escape only to completely underestimate how far he can jump and get his legs stuck on the fence while his top half faceplants.
one time I was driving home and a deer used the fricking crosswalk to cross the road as the light turned red
>log on to twitter
>it's another westerners harass asian artists for "whitewashing" episode
I wish the asian artists would tell them to frick off
its a blessing they probably can't even understand what they're saying
>haven't smoked wee in almost 2 years
>seriously considering buying some delta 8 to have a psychotic all encompassing fap session and indulge in hyper imagination with husbandos
it's been a rough month.
Weed doesn't hit that hard dude
I'm starting to think Alastor actually shares Charlie's dream, and that's why he was killing off Overlords. He left the Overlords who are "nice" or just weaker than him to live.
Why did he say it was stupid then? Like genuinely what's the point of lying
He just want to take Lucifer's place as king of hell, and in doing so he probably found out the secrets of the universe by meddling with Roo and shit, and so his goals have evolved with new information, but the original goal stayed the same.
I'm not liking how Charlie my inadvertently aid him in this endeavor considering how often he molests her...
Alastor's big goal has to do with being able to have the power to kill or control those who wronged him, persisting from his earthly life. My guess is he's trying to take down Roo ultimately after he discovered her purpose, but had to make a deal to double cross her later on. He's bringing Charlie to the fight with him, he sees she has the potential with her angelic and hellish genes to be the ultimate hybrid.
rigjt looks better, they made a lot of characters a lot less sexier tho, charlie was thicc, vagi showed a shoulder and the cat had no pants
Lol in Japan Alastor's name translates to "Aracha" which is why it appears that way on some fanarts. I'll now refer to asian depictions of him as Aracha.
I've seen a Japanese artist refer to Lucifer as "Lucaida" (they were drawing comics of what I can describe as toxic yaoi between adam and lucifer
I like that VoxAl is VokuAra, cuz it sounds like “vocal”
Penance is hot.. I like how the author highlights Alastor's manipulativeness
That is way sexier than it has any business being
This is the most accurate way of portraying Alastor in a relationship imo
This is still pretty early on too. Love for the writer getting fanart inspired from their fic.
colleen hoover ass writing
>Amir just confirmed that he misspoke and that Alastor is not actually asexual
HAHA YEEEEES
VENISON is BACK on the MENU GIRLS
he said he misspoke about him being aromantic not asexual
so you can romance the venison but his deer jerky and rump are off limits
It's over...
rape da deer 🙂
We're so back
Some asexual folks are cool with getting their partner off, they just don't crave the deed themselves
This is how I've always imagine it would be with Alastor anyway
He can enjoy the sex too he just doesn't initiate it
>romance but not sex
That just means he has to be coaxed into it. Not like couples don't have sex all the time where one partner is into it and the other is humouring him.
Asexuality isn't black and white like Twitter likes to think it is, sex can be in a gray zone, asexuals aren't all sex repulsed
Yeah, it's a spectrum. Demisexuality actually falls under the Ace umbrella if people want to go that route.
That scene where Vox screams "This is better than sex!" and then it cuts to Alastor saying "Have to disagree with you there" looks like it was placed that way on purpose. I headcanon from it that Alastor enjoys sex but doesn't place much importance to it and could easily live without it
He absolutely is asexual, Viv drew art of him with the Ace flag years ago. VA's don't dictate shit
meant to link to
It's because Vivz got rid of the original writers from the pilot. Dave and Ken really brought a lot to the characters and once she got rid of them they all went the way of Helluva.
Vivz just isn't a good writer. she's always been pretty shit at it, just read Zoophobia and you'll get an idea of how lame and surface level her shit is.
A lot of pilot moments:
https://www.tumblr.com/kendraw/188738806723/here-are-the-boards-i-did-for-hazbin-hotel-it
This shit feels like it was written by a teenager
What does?
Please don't post sexy nun Alastor. My christian dad is behind me supervising what I do on the family computer.
How would he do in hell?
Probably run a popular blood cult in Hell.
He'd be popular with horned demons and hellborn as they all are graceless and are born without the qualifications of even being considered redemption material.
He isn't gay, a furry or effeminate so probably bad,
>He isn't gay,
Anon I...
He's a gay incestual AIDS poz spreader
he based
Trips of truth
I made that post. Didn't expect to make history.
The numbers do not lie
When you make those digits with the post of truth, it will always be honored via screenshot
>post about adam is made
>digits
he's a menace even as a dead character
Based CHADam posters.
This is also good visual representation of the enjoyability of You Didn't Know vs Hell is Forever. To be fair, YDK is one of those end of act medleys musicals do, so it was never going to be as good as the original songs it's made from. But parts are just barely tuneful wordswordswords. Not the reprise I was hoping for.
Welcome to Heaven and You didn’t know feel like purposely weak songs, since the main singers are speaking from a weak position.
Emily is a naive angel girl who will end up falling, making the lyrics she sings incredibly ironic in the latter song.
However, the former song feels more like the perversion of Heaven. Emily shows her love for the pleasures of Heaven, but not to the people of Heaven. The welcoming and protective father for all Winners, Adam, and the sincere and orderly Sera. It literally does a “oh muh science” joke, and science is often used incorrectly for supplementing God and his most loyal followers to proclaim your own selfish truths.
I’m not saying that Vivziepop is purposely doing some stupid genius writing or is even thinking about Richard Dawkins and stuff I’m mentioning.
What I am saying is that Vivziepop is establishing that Emily’s priorities (materialism and her own desires) are in the wrong. And her walking pass Adam, without having the “sinner” meet him for the very first time, is a very big red flag. If she truly cared about Sinners, she would’ve been far more considerate of Adam’s extremely personal relationship with them. And allow them to meet him for the first and last time in their seemingly only visit to Heaven.
Hell is forever is a song of Adam accepting the sad outcomes of his family, which he only knew when he arrived to Heaven, a place he expected Abel and many children to arrive and await for him. And despite him objectively far worse off than the angels and Emily in that entire situation, he doesn’t rebel against his father, and instead appreciates what he has left and what the father has given to him in Heaven, Lute. In order to go to Heaven, you need to give up everything, including the people you love the most.
Bro is this your youtube?
https://www.youtube.com/@justice8718
Drawanon who made this Vaggie, thank you! It made my day.
Good stuff.
I'm more and more into her by the day.
<<<Pilot Vaggie
I much preferred Pilot Vaggie over what Show Vaggie is supposed to be.
Her "death marker" literally works just like every other Sinners' mark does, so her having a 'le special' mark that just so happened to look like the "finisher" marker Sinners have is autistic last minute plot switching in my opinion.
Can we have more Alastor in an SS uniform?
MOAR NAZI ALASTOR
He is literally black
>Male
Ftms don't count
There were black SS, what's your point.
>He is literally black
He literally isn't. They can say he's mixed race all they want, his character just ISN'T black. They clearly only said that to garner brownie points with wokegays
>Ftms don't count
Fricking obviously, lol. I'm not FTM just autistic as shit. I like writing, and I liked Adam and Lute, and I thought the idea of Alastor being stuck with them would be fun to write. It is.
>He literally isn't
I wasn't serious lmao..
I have trouble believing any man would be interested in this show, even gay ones, but whatever you say
His skin grey doe
To be fair, I was a bisexual white male when the pilot came out.
>have trouble believing any man would be interested in this show, even gay ones, but whatever you say
I personally know a couple of guys who've mentioned it in passing. A post in another thread summed up the reason pretty well: there's frick all else to watch. Aside from that, lots of guys also watched Zim as kids. Some were no doubt lured in by the aesthetics. And Charlie.
>I have trouble believing any man would be interested in this show, even gay ones
Sort of a guilty pleasure for me, in theory I despise vivziepop's writing, beliefs, interests and design philosophy but there's something charming about a deviantart/tumblr b***h turning her OCs into an actual show plus its the only remotely unique animated show on air at the moment
Same here. Its interesting, and I wanna see some MCs die.
>I wanna see some MCs die.
Is there any chance of this happening? Did she ever kill a main character in Zootopia? I get the impression Vivzie's the sort of writer who can't off anyone she's invested in. The two characters who've died so far—Adam and Pentious, who also came back—were very late additions to the cast compared to the babies she's been nursing since highschool.
More writers really need to adopt the GRRM stance towards characters. If a character makes a mistake that should get them killed, they should die.
For example, Vaggie shouldn't have won the fight with Lute, but the plot needed her to win, so she did.
She spends the whole fight getting her ass kicked and then rubble wins it for her.
Another is Angel Dust, like there's no reason Val wouldn't try to kidnap him or force him to stay at his studio, he just keeps letting him go to the Hotel when it apparently annoys him. Why not just force him to stay? Hes clearly not intimidated by Charlie at all. The answer is that the plot needs him to be at the hotel, so he is. It doesn't matter if logically, he should be stuck in the studio or at the very least dodging kidnappers every now and then, because keeping his abusive relationship in high tension for character development/drama is better for the show.
Theres a LOT of contrivance that you have to ignore.
With Val, he has Alastor being the thorn on his side, so forcing Alastor’s guest to be in his studio provokes big conflicts with the guy who is willing to kill him.
Vaggie is simply a black hole that has the plot and character fold to her. Maybe because Lute struggles with the idea of killing her own exorcist that she may-or-may-not have birthed, or Vivziepop is trying and failing to make Vaggie even slightly cool. homosexuals are bad, but dykes are hypeless black holes.
>Lute struggles with the idea of killing her own exorcist that she may-or-may-not have birthed
If Lute was Vaggie's mom that definitely would have been mentioned. I think Adam just kinda wills them into existence or something, idk, Viv didn't feel like explaining the exorcists.
Adam and Lute are meant to be mysterious characters. They just seemingly look open-ended and shut to deceive the audience. Even though Adam had his entire face hidden away the whole time, like the mysterious Lilith/Eve, till the end of episode 8.
If Lute was revealed to give birth to Vaggie and the Exorcist, it would give away too much on her relationship with Adam and make Charlie and Vaggie look like an utterly selfish monsters (Vaggie is one, but the audience is supposed to be biased for her side).
Why would the writers want to influence the audience to be on Vaggie's side of they plan to reveal Lute is her mom later?
I feel like you're just saying shit to say it at this point
Because it’s a story with twists and turns. Fricking Eve is Adam’s worst enemy in this show.
It’s the basics of story telling, with twist villains and twist heroes.
>Another is Angel Dust, like there's no reason Val wouldn't try to kidnap him or force him to stay at his studio, he just keeps letting him go to the Hotel when it apparently annoys him.
Angel's recovery arc is one of the elements that suffers the most from S1's lack of focus. You're right; it doesn't make sense that Valentino just lets the hotel situation slide. After Charlie's failed intervention, I would expect escalation from an abuser who has no reason to fear retaliation. I'm sure that plot thread will be picked back up in season two. But there's really no character-driven reason reason to put it on ice for months in-universe. The writing team simply wanted to rush through a time skip so the season finale could be an "epic" clash with heaven and the destruction of the Exorcists.
I don't understand the point of taking a scenario purpose-built for medium stakes character drama (written by a woman who obviously loves that going by HB's second season) and turning it into a battle shonen.
>The writing team simply wanted to rush through a time skip so the season finale could be an "epic" clash with heaven and the destruction of the Exorcists.
This is why, even though I enjoyed the show somewhat, I don't call it "good". It has great characters, interesting in-universe elements, and a lot of amazing design and animation that people clearly put a lot of effort into, but the writing is just not there.
Its a shame so much talent and effort is muted by that fact.
the idea of a show about redeeming the unredeemable set in hell is very pleasing to me.
It’s ultimately because the side-characters and villains are what the story centers around, so if they are good, they carry the thing on their shoulders. If they weren’t, it would be the boring dyke show.
I'm more or less in the same boat, I saw the pilot when it premiered, enjoyed it, & have stuck around since. The show has a weird way of tickling the late 2000s/mid 2010s edgy teen side of my brain like no other. Also, I want to hatefrick pilot Vaggie.
I and my boyfriend both love the show.
Al is red
Alright so with Alastor's mom... I have 2 ideas.
1. they find her, they meet, Alastor is happy to see her, shes happy to see him, they bond, and things are better, Alastor becomes even friendlier with Adam and Lute because of this.
2. They don't find her/they do and what Alastor has done (serial killing, becoming a demon, torturing souls and destroying lives) horrifies her so much she doesn't want anything to do with him. This would leave Alastor with no mother figure, and emotionally devastated because his mom doesn't love him anymore. Since hes so attached to the idea of "mom", I was thinking he could start to see subconciously treat Lute maternally, which would allow me to give Lute more sympathetic character development. Also a lot of cute awkward scenes.
I can't decide what would be best though.
Option 2 with finding her is my vote.
Writegay here, I was leaning towards that too, it feels the most natural imo, because if Alastor's mom DID go to heaven, there's no way she'd be cool with what hes done.
Yeah. Go with option 2. Headcanoning a huge chunk of a character's background by introducing 100% OC versions of their parents/siblings is usually a mistake anyway. Better to leave Momlastor vague.
I cast my vote to his mother (eventually) forgiving him. it is heaven after all
i like option 2, but i would leave the door open to the mom potentially forgiving him like what
said, you don't want to get too grimdark and depressing
If the story gets too depressing I'm gonna be sad, I want alastor to be treated like a pet, not sad!
the toxic yaoi potential between michael and lucifer... i'm already wet
Barring out on xan as to see Luci
huskerdust will be canon in s2
i just cant see husk being this kind of character knowing hes voiced by keith david. not saying there couldnt be some kind of deeper relationship/tension between the two
its bad enough he looks like a kitty. i can kinda see why people draw him fat to fit the voice
>Alastor thread being the most active and lasting the longest
Many such cases
i think people are just jumping from alastor thread to alastor thread. it's what i've been doing.
Yes but so far aside form maybe like one, these have been somewhat the most civil.
I think the schizo got banned for shitposting on /cm/, hence the civility
>shitposting in /cm/
For what purpose?
because he's god's little self-appointed soldier and he has to make sure everyone knows it
Posting wojacks
Hopefully he takes the opportunity to finally go outside
>Hopefully he takes the opportunity to finally go outside
Come on anon, you know that will never happen
Charlastor is very powerful.
I don't know when Cinemaphile will accept he's always been the most popular thing to come out of HH, the denial is embarrassing at this point.
viv has no balls to do alastor great and instead will be a generic ally
hell viv has no balls to make angel vs valentino being kino
>no evil final boss Al
Feels bad man
I need Alastor flirting with Vox to frick with him next season.
All I see is an improvement, I really dig the more angular and exaggerated look
What about the redesign do you think is worse?
How many people in these threads are some kind of Lgbt?
Writegay here, I'm actually probably the only straight white male in the thread.
I'm a straight black male
bisexual woman with she/it pronouns. didn't expect to care about this show, much less want to frick the rapist.
I will never understand the Val appeal
i have a fear kink about a mile wide and a nine-foot tall, four-armed, sexual sadist monster boy fits the bill real nice. also i'm a ryonagay
Bisexual girl, used to identify as genderfluid and use they/them but stopped that when I began to feel embarrassed by the trans shit
just want to point out that I've been on Cinemaphile since I was 14 I really did have dysphoria back then
I don't identify as lgbt I just meet the definition of bisexual
Does ASPD count?
>Adamschizo has Anti Social Personality Disorder
No. He just misspelled "aspie".
I feel way too cold and inhuman to apply to that.
Everyone gets fascinated with the activities and the personal issues, deaths. and stuff. But I’m way too mellow and emotionless. I was put on laughing gas and I felt nothing but tiredness.
Very few things thrill me. The shocking stories bore me. Without God, I would likely be some heinous monster and quickly get up to the top as some top satanic agent. With the looks, voice, and talents. Twisting the bIble to see how I can sabotage Christians.
A totally empty monster.
Bro you make schizophrenic hazbin hotel theories on a Turkish Roach-Whisperer forum you're not him
If I was satisfied with anything, would I be here?
Think about it, anon, I instantly thought Adam was based and heroic for killing sinners with no love and remorse inside of him.
You normal people are hesitant on that kind of mindset and let your emotions break the simple stance of logic.
If I was told to kill you under God’s command, I would. Get shocked for a bit, and then I mellow back into my original husk self in moments. That’s not human.
Bro I 100% agree with that, that's most of the reason I like Adam, I just am not under the impression that he's doing it because of virtue or God's order. He's doing it for himself. He enjoys it WAY too much. I know you're gonna say "nah he's just putting on an act to cope with what he has to do and like... MAYBE but that's entirely in your head and there is no indication in the show that any of that is true. If he was what you say he was, he should be almost completely emotionless and barely even speak to Charlie and her friends. He should be heartlessly obliterating everything and everyone without it being personal or emotional. He literally died in the end because he let his emotions get the best of him.
>adamschizo is actually a schizo
this is why schizos and people who do meth are terrifying
"god" could tell them to do anything at any time with no rhyme or reason and they'd just fricking do it
like that b***h high on meth who pulled out her own eyes
Yeah, it's fricking scary. I hope he doesn't hurt anyone.
I wouldn't worry too much. The more someone talks about how dangerous they are anonymously online, the less dangerous they probably are.
This is the only time I brought this up. Demons seethed at me when I saw truths and tried to scare off with their stupid dark energies, torture dreams, and such, and all I think about is how pathetic and scared they are to be pure living darkness.
What makes me safe-ish is self-control and diligence. There’s nothing to tempt me with. And under God’s mercy, I am not an agent of destruction. But there are many people like me in the world who aren’t as wise and they wicked to the core.
What's funny is he is trying to say Adam is like him when he VERY clearly is not. Adam in the show is very clearly doing everything for selfish reasons of hate and vengeance. Besides, Viv and the Amazon writers aren't NEARLY talented enough to write a character that complex and involved. Bro just writes fanfiction about characters and staples it to the official lore
It's fitting he calls himself matpat much like the real guy he asspulls and treats his fanfiction as fact
All you are is a dumb normie mocker that is blinded by God because you are humble as a Pharaoh made of stone. Without the humbleness, he’s keeping your eyes shut till you die. And Jesus mentioned this because he knew the father blinded the unbelievers.
Oh yeah which bible or denomination do you follow
I don’t know.
Follow god’s commands to show your love for him. The end, I guess?
The paranormal stuff is a bonus feature.
God’s justice and ways are higher than yours. You cannot create a true Heaven for everyone. He can.
You inferior rat.
Adam showed love by obeying the speaker of God, Sera. And he put the higher ways of Heaven over his own desires to have Eve and the Sinners they’ve had.
Emily is the selfish one who goes against Sera, despite all of the warnings given to her, and shows so much passion for the materialisms and pleasures of Heaven, rather than for Adam, the father and guardian of Winners, and Sera, the speaker who manages and takes care of her, Adam, and the rest of heaven.
Simply by having Emily ignore Adam, instead of pushing the “sinner” (Vaggie) to him, shows how surprisingly shallow she is.
Yea dude I'm sorry but that's all in your head, this show is not that smart. It is nothing more than what it claims to be. Pretending God has anything to do with this show is teetering on sacrilege. It's effectively an entirely different universe. Adam submits to her in court because she's the boss, Emily speaks out because she is outraged at sinners being killed. That's it.
YOU CAN STILL LIKE ADAM FOR SLAUGHTERING SINNERS, THATS FINE. But all this extra shit just isn't there in canon.
Everything is possible with God. And he would want to leave messages for the lost, confused, and aware, especially when his Son comes to the earth in few years or so.
This is almost the end of our second day.
>God’s justice and ways are higher than yours.
Yeah so you're a schizo who could hurt someone because a voice in your head tells you to
Stay away from me.
You are a danger to society man
If "God" tells you to attack someone unprovoked, that's not God. Followers of God are supposed to take up arms only in defense of others.
Dude makes us all look bad.
>I was put on laughing gas and I felt nothing but tiredness.
it's supposed to make you sleepy?
Btw have you considered to make a Tumblr account to write your theories on? I don't think they require mobile number to sign up, just email
aroace had all the medical tests done, no thyroid issues, no other health problems, never had any traumatic experiences...sex is just boring to me
Straight beaner here
Bisexual male.
From shit to shit.
"She's filled with potential that I could guide.."
>I don't know, Al. What if someone sees us?
>I'll make them frick your ass too.
I love Alastor so much. He's a character that I love to imagine doing the domination and raping, but I can also imagine him being dominated as well. He's a good hammer and nail. Although as of right now I prefer stories and art of him molesting and manipulating Charlie. I hope there' more art of him raping and deflowering her as well soon.
I enjoy the manipulation ones. Penance is a good one right now. Does anyone here have any other favorites they can recommend?
Charlie and Al having fun together melts my heart
I wanna see Al invite her and the others to be guests on his show.
so do any of you cosplay
Writegay here, no, its too expensive. I would love to cosplay as something from Warhammer 40K, but I'm poor as shit. I guess I could go as an Ork, I'm muscly enough, but that'd take so much green bodypaint lol
I did a sob and made everything from cardboard coated in paper mache, it was super cheap. alot of costumes can be done for cheap if you dont mind spending more time on it.
Maybe someday
I want to cosplay Verosika
dont let your dreams just be dreams anon
I want to cosplay Rosie
i'm planning on cosplaying hellaverse characters with some friends later this year
who are you all doing
potentially charlie lucifer vaggie and alastor
thats a nice group, you all are gonna get so many pictures
>Adam claims he likes putting his name down and passionate about it
>Instead, he likes drawing for funsies
Rosie/Lilith was hinting that Adam wasn’t what he seems.
Honestly, if your theory comes true I think everyone ITT should give you a BJ
Don’t give to me. Show your appreciation for Vivziepop for the work she has done.
And if it doesn't, you should apologize for shitting up threads and derailing discussions for everyone else who likes Adam and Lute.
>ducktape to keep the glasses in place
It's the little things that bring me to smile
You guys are your own cancer.
>t. Hedonist
Hey this is the greatest thing I've ever seen thank you
The presence of Collin really brings the whole piece together.
>If hell is forever, then heaven must be a lie
That sounds like a villain line.
In a better story, it is. In Vivzie's world, it's just an ebin Uno reverse that sounds profound but doesn't make much sense if you think about it.
Considering that Emily is given Fallen Imagery while Adam is given ascension imagery, it feels like we are supposed to be shocked that Adam is good all along and you have Emily and a good Portion of angels/winners descending down to Hell for their rebelliousness.
I wonder if the story has Emily and the angels to oppose Sera for continuing the exterminations out of duty, proclaiming her and Lute as monsters, even if they have shown love for the redeemed sinners and want to protect them from Hell as well.
So later on, when Sera and Lute are in dumps, depressed at everything turned out, Hell suddenly having an entire army of Seraphims and angels on their side, Adam and resurrected exorcist appear before them with six wings on their backs.
Thus, season 3 will be a full-blown end of the world scenario.
No it doesn't
You sound moronic
He had more mouth expression in the pilot.
Uh hey guys the Alastor cultist girl hasn't posted in a while, do you think whatever she was calling from the aether actually manifested and ate her soul or something?
god i hope so, women belong in the kitchen and should take care of children and not worhship some gayster deer demon
Hell yea Lute you tell em'
>women belong in the kitchen and should take care of children
Yes. But what if the demon teaches her how to make excellent jambalaya in a dream? And then impregnates her with his monstrous spawn?
That's actually kinda hot
>how to get tricked by demons and sell your soul for momentary pleasure 101
that or its just another women moment
>how to get tricked by demons and sell your soul for momentary pleasure 101
The entire loreset around succubi and incubi was pretty obviously imagined up by fellows with one hand down their hose, so in a way you're not wrong.
No. It’s literally genesis 6 on a smaller scale.
Mankind really wants to frick angels and Fallen angels want to frick them. Holy angels are like Christians, they wait.
It’s real.
i think she posted earlier today about feeling a presence since burning the sigil
Yea Alastor isn't real, because, you know, obviously, so if she did actually get something to listen to her, it definitely wasn't what she was asking for... gonna say a quick prayer for her soul.
people on /x/ were saying she could summon a dark entity who takes the form of alastor, so I imagine that's what most stagsisters are going for
>people on /x/
Thread or screencaps?
Godspeed.. she fricking did it. Alastor got her.
>be you, Alastorschizo
>for over a week offer your blood to him via a hand drawn sigil of his wacky witchcraft symbols
>burn the sigil and release the energy
>meet an entity that will at least pretend to be your deer husband
>get fricked and impregnated by this entity and dragged back to hell
>he just makes you into his housewife and has you cooking him some fricked up cannibal dishes every day
I'm ngl this sounds pretty based to me
I want it i want it i want it
You know Hell isn't actually like the Hellaverse right? It's literally eternal suffering
>eternal suffering
Not with all those hotties down there to frick and a body that won't die
Again, it's not the Hellaverse dude
Autism truly is the great uniter
You know hell isn't real right, it's just a cartoon
Yea that's why all the highest ranking members of society keep getting caught in Satanic ritual worship and keep referencing Satan favorably in art constantly, just for fun lol
Are you actually fricking implying that this moronic cartoon is a message from God
Anon, Adam’s character is themed around abandoning and killing your loved ones and children for God’s divine justice. And moving on to what God will give you in Heaven.
Barely any character is like him and that’s scary.
>Adam’s character is themed around abandoning and killing your loved ones and children for God’s divine justice. And moving on to what God will give you in Heaven.
Then how come nothing in the show indicates that in any way whatsoever and only make sense when you consult your board of thumbtacks on random HH characters woven together with yarn
So like what does this prove
Adam abandoned everything and everyone he knew when he arrived and stayed in Heaven. Fully accepting that he would never see them ever again if he did remain there.
That should scare you.
But it doesn't say that, it says he was the first soul to enter heaven, you made up that other part
Adam literally replaced Eve the sinner with a holy angel. He picked the heavenly wife as his other half.
It’s not my fault you’re stupid.
It’s not the same show, Amazon’s show is soulless trash
New thread b***hes
Don't call them generals, b***h.
But why tho
Literally a rule.
This board doesn't have a rule thread
https://desuarchive.org/co/search/text/generals%20/capcode/mod/
You're supposed to lurk more instead. Cinemaphile doesn't caution against request threads either but it's still a warning/deletion on sight.
The fact that I've been on this fricking website over a decade and never heard of this before is insane
>indulging an obvious LARPer
Shiggle diggle. NGMI.