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Boomers hate their planet, their nation and their people. What do you expect?
>accepting illegal immigrants, giving non-citizens more rights than citizens, giving non-citizens more access to tax-funded programs than the people paying for them, allowing foreigners the same voting rights as citizens, and allowing foreigners to own property in the US is loving your nation amd your people
Every one of your kind needs to be eliminated.
thanks boomers for all that
Modern Pixar wouldn't have the balls to unapologetically dunk on fatties like they did in this based movie
This. I fricking hate everything past 2010.
did they dunk on fatties though? the humans on the ship were still fundamentally good people and turned around to take care of earth again, after they were helped to get rid of their own distracting hedonism
It was still patently obvious that their fatness was a point of degeneration
>redemption arcs don’t count because there was something to redeem in the first place!
Uhh?
>it's a redemption arc despite there being nothing to redeem in the first place
what did ESL anon mean by this reply?
>ESL calling others ESL
two years before posting.
>literal no u
>ahhhhh two yee-ahs befo posting whyboii
>Uhh?
god you fricking suck
go away
Redemption from being fatties. Correct.
Yes, that’s what the post implied anon.
Sorry anon, I’m not God.
Their fatness is part of the degeneration, along with the fricked up Earth. The movie makes a point of showing just how useless they've become in their fatness, they can't fricking walk. Stfu
>another chink who doesn’t understand what a redemption arc is
>another fat moronic american who thinks there's nothing wrong with being morbidly obese
That and when the captain begins to stand up and walk it's treated, with a bit of tongue in cheek, as a triumphant moment. The humans are portrayed as good people in spite of their fatness and it's a good thing when they start to overcome it
Yeah, by becoming not fat? are you an actual moron, Anon? At no point is being corpulent celebrated in the movie.
>another chink that doesn't understand what a redemption arc is
if there's nothing to "redeem" then there's no "redemption"
>their fatness was a point of degeneration
uh, homie, the fatness being caused by life on the ship, in a bubble of pointless corporate controlled hedonism, was a plot point of the movie.
Their obesity is played up for laughs, like when they fall out of their hover-rascals and roll around helplessly on the floor
So? That’s funny, it’s not mean or underhanded or anything. It’s like when you see a Chinese “person” fall down a flight of steps because they were too busy jerking off and playing gacha games to pay attention
>turned around to take care of earth again
while simultaneously loosing massive weight
They were dunking on Nihilists. that was the entire point of the movie.
Negative buttholes who just gave up on life and effort.
Wall E was the counter of that. That lil homie never gave up and was always positive. He finally got tired and found someone to help him out.
The more I am on here, the more I realize, America is Wall E, and the rest of the world is just worthless. I've been seeing the flags on here now for 5 months on Cinemaphile.
Really foreigners are almost all just pure trash. Maybe they aren't physically fat, but they really are miserable worthless pieces of shit and the only positive ones left are the rare americans.
And you don't think standing for the American national anthem everyday for 13 years had anything to do with this enlightening revelation?
lmao you muttoids can be funny sometimes
I'm just bored of this site now. It's just the same negative shit over and over again. I think I am joining the exodus out. Nothing creative or original. The same shitty trolling and bait. It's not my job to make you feel better or interact with you.
Just download the app. Google it. You'll figure it out in 3 minutes. Almost all the posts are foreigners now. The only positive people left are americans. Not all Americans are positive, but any positive or fun threads are Americans now. Even the germans left.
bull crap, prove it by telling me my flag rn
Canada
>it's real
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.deezus.pchan&hl=en_US&gl=US
You can goof around with the program a little which you can find instructions online. Not that anon but we can see all the flags here. And yeah it's mainly thirdies. Brazilians, indians, "russians" mexicans and serbs just raging. There is a french, brit, german, and pole who are either disporia or russia who go isane towards americans literally every day here.
You might have to get the older program this was just updated.
>turn Cinemaphile into tinder!
... what an unholy abomination
I haven't done it yet, but I figured it out when they were cross posting and not changing the meta data at all.
There really are very very few actual americans here.
>There really are very very few actual americans here.
I’d say 60% at least are chinks, bots and poos. But that still leaves you with a solid 35-40% of real red blooded Americans.
Not him but not. Maybe 5% tops. Maybe. At best 5%. I would guess 1 out of 50 posters is an actual american.
hey man can you flag detect these two posts for me im really curious
First one is Brazilian, second one is Mexican.
hehe
Months of this raging "brazilian". He's on int all the time doing this shit.
"REEE TOP GUN MAVERICK"
imagine if the most popular dating app was actually an imageboard, it would be super easy to pick up chicks and also fun
someone in CO invite this chubby old slag to kino&chill
Taurus are freaks in the sack.
>I've been seeing the flags on here now for 5 months on Cinemaphile.
how do you see the flags
>how do you see the flags
theyre in your mind
every bad grammar post comes from a brazilian zoomer, for instance
Mostly Chinese posters. Brazilians are the type to “drop” words when they write in English while Chinamen are more likely to “add” pointless and contrived words. It’s easy to tell the difference.
>the driving force of global capitalism, consumerism and anti-human sentiment are the good guys
lol
lmao
>The fat, lazy, racist and uneducated hedonistic slobs who waste the majority of the world's resources, produce the most food waste, and have contributed the absolute most to climate change are the only worthwhile people in my autistic homosexual fantasy
If I ever see you or someone like you in the real world I swear to Christ I will put a .223 right through that empty head. Wall-E is the Global South, the fat, lazy and ugly people are wealthy Westerners who could afford to flee the planet that their fictional Amazon corporation fricked up. The USA is beyond saving, we've become such a hedonistic and disgusting people. Either we're woke liberal homosexuals, or we're sad christo-nationalists who have braindead fantasies and delusions about the past of this shithole of a country and what Christianity is supposed to be. We are a demonic state, a state of lazy barbarity that must be destroyed if humanity is to survive the 21st century.
We are not the heroes of the world, we are the main antagonists.
Funny but also based post.
Truth. Can’t believe that other anon suggested the opposite, this country is literally constantly on the cutting edge of being the worst possible example of human behavior.
I'll give you a pro tip. The US was founded on the Enlightenment principles by masons. Your country was designed to end up this way, much like the West. It's the logical conclusion of a godless society even if unintentional. The US has been reduced to very simple Manichean dialectics, in other words your country's philosophy and religion is based on ancient gnosticism.
>The US has been reduced to very simple Manichean dialectics
Funniest post I’ve read in months anon. How do I find the nearest Mani Mani statue?
Turn on the TV you're addicted to so the grown ups can tell you all about evil white and good black people, republicans and democrats, capitalism and socialism, etc
What does that have to do with Manichaeism? Isn’t that just about shadow creatures that swallow light?
No, it's about dualistic dialectics. Reducing everything to something in tension with one another. The US is the master of this.
Alright, you can’t say “this issue is presented as a dialectic” and then pretend that’s iterative of Manichaeism, unless you’re using that term strictly figuratively, in which case, why Manichaeism lmao
>why Manichaeism
random guess, but it might have something to do with it's country of origin
I meant why did that anon pick it as a metaphor.
and i'm saying its most likely because manichaeism came from his home country or near it to be in his education curriculum
Yeah, alright, probably something to that.
That seems to be the origin of this issue. I believe St. Augustine influenced the West with his experience with Manicheanism even when he denounced it. This 'black and white' view of the world comes from Manicheanism which was revived during the Enlightenment. A simple example could be Marx's manifesto separating the classes into proletariat and bourgeois and creating a tension between them.
bruh, you're the only person in this thread who seems to have a black and white view of the world.
Stop being low IQ and respond with something worthwhile.
why would i? you're over there screaming at what you imagine america to be.
I know what it is, a lot of it is just historical facts. Your founders were Masonics and they built the US on Enlightenment ideals. I'm just digging deeper into how those ideals affected the US and produced the godless shit hole it is today.
Actually, what you’re doing is side-stepping every question where you’re asked to explain what you’re talking about, and the rest is circular logic. Seriously, why did you latch on to Manichaeism so hard? Why not Jainism or Baha’ii or Tengriism lmao
Those are irrelevant to the West. I'm talking about a specific revival of ancient gnosticism that was inherently Western and gave you the example of St. Augustine importing it into Western thought. Either way this is a small point I don't care much about. I am interested in the collapse of traditional West and development of the modern West/world.
bruh, when america collapses, your country is going with it.
You haven’t said much of anything, start talking about substantial ideas if you want more attention from me anon. I haven’t seen anything of value, nothing even insightful, from any of your posts.
There's a couple things that influenced the mindset of the West like the development of humanism (democracy, fascism, communism), nihilism, the Reformation (classical liberalism), and the Schism (separation from tradition). The importation of Aristotelianism from Constantinople after the 4th Crusade which influenced Luther and consequently the entire West. There is also a western revolutionary spirit, this can be seen with the US, French, Spanish, and Soviet revolutions and the modern 'Great Reset' as our latest project.
anon, you're not part of the west. you're an outsider just spewing gibberish at increasingly concerned people.
I live in the West. I don't see why you're calling me crazy for pointing some historical things out to piece dots together. You seem like a very disingenuous person and it's genuinely sad.
i'm calling you crazy because you're spewing utter gibberish about a country/people you clearly have worse than zero understanding of, in a thread about a movie you haven't watched and don't understand.
You haven't said a single thing of substance, yet you feel the need to respond to someone that's supposedly talking in gibberish? lol
what, of substance, can be said in response to gibberish?
I would not be responding to a crazy man, anon. I don't know why you feel the need to keep telling me you don't understand the basic things I'm ranting about out of boredom and maybe some feedback. This thread is garbage anyway.
you're screaming at me that i think in certain terms, a certain way, and when someone tells you that you're off base, you cry.
hell, i had one guy scream at me for like an hour because i dared voice the sentiments of the silent majority of this country.
I didn't do that at all. Stop feeling personally attacked when I critique your country and by extension the entire West.
>the silent majority
My Black person, abandon politics. It's a waste of time. Just stop relying on this moronic democratic system that never represented anyone but the elite in the first place. Imagine thinking you can solve problems if only you could just vote this one guy in to do it for you or that this one guy would listen to you.
>abandon politics.
the silent majority has. that's why they're silent. that's literally what it means in this context.
No, they're still in a culture war based on politics even if they're not participating in elections (which I doubt). But I understand what you mean, I guess I'm "silent" as well.
>a culture war
literally no one thinks that shit is real outside the internet.
They haven't. Its why virginia turned red. The question is if stuff like that will do anything or if the Republicans are simply progressives going the speed limit like normal. The real problem is no matter who won after printing that amount of money the economy was going to suck. Its called a credit impulse, they even had cope articles saying "yeah credit impulse has signaled recession in the past but not this time!" Things still would have been bad under trump but nowhere near this, they are doing it on purpose seemingly to usher in their green deals and more ESG crap
While I understand the US’ origins, and by virtue of that, the country’s fixation on esoterica and the “classical period”, your argument seems to be misunderstanding a “common intellectual ground” with a deliberate effort to ferry over and implement those ideas. So while you may be noticing real migration of ideas, your understanding of the “why” side seems very incomplete. Your argument almost implicitly treats those major nations as if they lived in a bubble - and by that I mean, you’re suggesting that these ideas could only have deliberately/directly been brought over and instilled rather than more of a natural migration through basic associations, media, non-political interactions. Comes off like you have a bit of a fixation, really.
why are you replying to yourself?
Because I really needed to give myself a good talking to over my Manichaeism bullshit
Nothing is grass roots, most things are planned, financed, designed, and executed for a specific purpose. My "why" is theological, it's essentially the consequences of moving away from God.
Never used the word grass roots, nice try. Reminder, you’re the one that’s supposed to be making the point here, not me.
You implied grass roots by saying "natural migration". Again, nothing just happens, there's an ordered system in place for a specific reason regardless of which epoch we're talking about. I'm not going to do all the heavy lifting in a conversation but I'm done with my rant.
The frick are you talking about?
>I'm not going to do all the heavy lifting in a conversation
Yeah that’s been apparent since question #1
>The frick are you talking about?
god is dead. you accept a model of reality that barely involves him no matter how religious you think you are. he's on the same level as your great-great-great grandparents. responsible, to some extent for this/you, but isn't actively participating.
Thanks for your r eddit input.
be sure to thank god for every breath. he's the only reason your existence continues.
my thirdie friend, unless you believe god is holding the stars in the sky, the birds in the air, moving the wind in the threes, placing every plant, and is personally responsible for every conceived child, you are as far away from god as everyone else.
Be honest anon, are you a bot? This is worker speaking, readme DRmemory.
yes, you have no idea what you're talking about. that's nice. keep angrily broadcasting that.
shit man, you couldn't even understand a pixar movie.
No, I know exactly what I'm talking about. I haven't seen this pixar film nor do I plan to.
>I haven't seen this pixar film
see
So you haven't observed a thing at all
but you know all about a thing.
That's schizoid.
I never spoke about the film once. You got the wrong person, anon.
dangerously based
Based (agreeable). Eurocucks and traitors are absolutely seething at this comment.
>people being completely immobile fatasses until the uplifting ending scene where humans stop being fat fricks, this film is actually pro fat frick
this is your mind on sjw tumblr cope
Their rampant obesity is the physical reflection of their sheer helplessness, apathy and complacency. The damage they'd done to earth is also paralleled by the damage they'd done to their bodies.
The fact that earth is not beyond hope is resultingly a message that the state of their bodies is also not beyond hope
>they're not shitting on fatties because they weren't portrayed as bad guys
They were literally being portrayed as useless, stupid, and fat. They were dunked on just not in a way that your moronic brain think.
How can somebody be this stupid?
t. Fattie
Trips of truth. This movie specifically exposed the fat motorized cart fricks you see in Walmart.
? They don’t have Walmart in china
Pixar ended with Toy Story 4 and perhaps one or two ok movies after that. Nowadays it's plagued by "diversity" for its own sake and irrelevant until further notice.
>doubleposting moron is doubleposting
yikes
What kind of sad autist 1))doesn't understand that the delete button exists for editing (in this case, adding a d after "plague") and 2) makes a comment to whine about it? You sound pathetic and moronic.
They predicted americans drinking high fructose fluoride shakes instead of meals
I saw Wall-E twice in theaters when I was 9.
I swore I would dedicate my life to the environment and not become a mindless consumer like that fat goy cattle in the Buy and Large space ship, and you know what? 5 years later I had a smart phone, 10 years later I starting paying brown people to deliver fast food to my door so I wouldn't have to leave the house, and now, 13 years later, I remember I haven't done any environmental stuff in over a year. I'm just another boomer, caught in the consumption machine, too full of self-pity and anxiety to try and make a difference.
I hate myself and will no doubt get drunk and rewatch this film later this week.
you and everyone else, man. Just enjoy the bread & circus, it's all we can do at this point.
>ESL trying desperately to fit in
>still can’t conjugate words properly
It was over before it began lmao
The post you replied to looks grammatically correct to me. Did you reply to the wrong post?
environmental disaster is an inevitability at this point anon, there's nothing any individual can do
You'd be surprised.
but he failed, and his ideology is a pipe dream
he acknowledged himself that to take down the industrial system requires a co-ordinated global effort that must succeed in ALL nations at the same time
otherwise any pocket of industrial society that survives will simply outcompete and conquer the rest of the world all over again
this shit is molochian and only goes in one direction
>but he le failed :^)
>continues posting on Cinemaphile all day producing nothing of value
none of us turn out the way we imagined. but there is an age when you have to stop complaining about it.
>stop complaining
Take care of it, but don't worship the earth. Either way most of the modern environmental scares are bullshit. Just clean up your neighbourhood and hope others do the same.
That doesn't debunk veganism though, that just means a lot of people who claim they are practicing is, are not in fact doing so.
I wasn't talking about veganism. The whole environment thing leads people into worshipping the earth, and a part of that worship is fasting in the form of veganism. It's "ethical" starvation.
>the vegan international defense force keeps fatfingering the wrong reply button
It’s an insincere fringe movement that’s defined entirely by the trappings of modern society. There’s no intrinsic moral or clinical value to it once their hang ups and niggles with the food industry are solved. So at best it’s a temporary condition, and at its worst, it’s a pointless wank.
>There’s no intrinsic moral or clinical value to it once their hang ups and niggles with the food industry are solved
But.. they aren't solved. What are you talking about?
It's like saying an umbrella is of no intrinsic value once it stops raining
That has no bearing on what my post said. Especially considering that my post directly acknowledges that they aren’t.
See, here, you are saying the exact same thing you said here
and now, I implore you to do a little bit more research into the land clearing and environmental waste that is created by the meat industry. I'm not one of those loons that things cow farts are warming the Earth but factory farming causes a lot of pollution we can see with our own eyes.
Vegans are removing themselves from the meat industry's customer base and thus starving them of capital with which to cause even further pollution. How is that pointless?
Abstaining from action is not the same thing as taking action, you limp-wristed vegan. And I’m not arguing that veganism is “wrong” like you’re desperately implying, I’m arguing that it’s silly and pointless. It’s as much of a relic of modern society as the temperance movement was.
>you limp-wristed vegan
Couldn't help yourself, slip in the stereotype to further push your argument into bad faith territory. I already said I wasn't a vegan. Anyway, I've said my piece,
Just having a laugh you tragic sperg.
>Anyway I’ve said my piece
If you have, I must’ve missed it. All you’ve done is intentionally misinterpret a few clearly worded posts. Why you did that, who knows?
Temperance caused a lasting reduction in alcohol-related health consequences
Yes, but the movement is gone now after serving that small purpose. The same thing that’ll happen to veganism.
oh so veganism is going to ban all food at some point? that'll be interesting.
You shouldn’t drink this early anon, it’s not even 5pm
the point is the only effect "temperance" had was prohibition, which in effect was only a thing to shakedown smaller brewers/distilleries and put regulations into place to limit the ability of smaller entities to sell a product.
veganism isn't going to result in the banning of all food or even regulations on food.
I never said it would, just that vegans would stop existing if those reforms did happen, which makes it a silly, temporal and pointless ideology. Like being a Huguenot.
>people would stop campaigning for something if the thing they're campaigning for is passed
Is this your idea of an intelligent take?
>has nothing to say
>tries to reduce the argument to absurdity
You’re going to hurt yourself acting like that anon
>absurdity
What's absurd about it exactly?
>This group of people have issues with a tangible phenomenon
>If that tangible phenomenon were to stop existing, the people would no longer have an issue with it
It's the most bizarre reasoning I've seen to discredit a group/movement. You could say the same about every group on the planet
>You could say the same about every group on the planet
That’s not true. People opposed to the temperance movement didn’t just disappear when the movement ended. They didn’t stop being against temperance or pro-drinking either.
probably because people who will cry about the personal choices of others still exist, even if one big movement of them doesn't?
Glad you conceded your stupid point anon.
you're going to have to walk me through this "logic," anon.
>anon says “political groups cease to exist when they get what they want”
>anon tells anon “many dont, plenty persist in pursuing the same ideas even after they get what they want”
>original anon fumbles to explain and then concedes
It’s really quite easy to follow.
oh, okay, so you're saying everyone alive stopped having any problem with drinking the second the temperance movement ended.
Read the post one more time and try again.
i've read it. you're saying that once the temperance movement and prohibition ended, everyone alive was perfectly fine with drinking. that no one alive doesn't drink.
>can’t follow simple instructions
>refuses to read a simple sentence a second time
Yeah you seem like a real honest guy anon, surely you wouldn’t be acting dumb on purpose?
no serious, you're exactly right, there are still "pro-drinkers" because everyone alive drinks, there are no restrictions on drinking, and there's no regulations on who can distill what and how. you're exactly right. all political movements continue to exist indefinitely even long after they get what they want because once a big source of concentrated opposition goes away, that means everyone everywhere immediately embraces the opposite.
The amount of effort you’re expending to refute my argument is amusing anon. Especially since you haven’t even put a dent in it yet. Keep trying.
what's going on in this thread?
I have no idea.
How does democracy represent only the elite....
That' makes no sense. At all.
Money is a byproduct of power. Power is made by harvesting and controlling calories.
Without people no money. without food no power. without fuel no power. without control of calories.. no power.
Calories are energy units. it's that simple
Money is just a medium for power to travel through.
This is Political science, from like 12th grade.
I posted about veganism and the VIDF showed up and humiliated themselves
okay. I have no feeling towards vegans either way man. I won't eat certain meats so I can empathize. Veal, cats, dogs, horses, I'm not eating that.
I don’t care what you’ll eat, you simply asked me what was going on.
Maybe try to make a cohesive refutation? It's obvious your presidents are puppets and your vote is meaningless. Those in charge already have an organised plan regardless of which puppet they hire for 4 years.
I just a cohesive argument. are you confused?
Money is a byproduct of power. I explained it.
ESL?
A vote is power.
I'm not going to surrender my power.
Duh
Who cares about money? Again, your vote has zero power because you're a stupid goy like the rest of the cattle who believe in delusions. People with actual power run your country.
Now you went schizo.
How is my vote not power?
No schizo shit. No more vague nonsense. No more shitty trolling for attention.
How is a vote not power?
>How is my vote not power?
because you can only vote in the contexts allowed/manufactured by corporate interest and billionaires, as since 2010 they have zero restrictions on their influence.
See you went back to vague schizo shit.
Let's try this again.
How is my vote not power.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhood
this is "vague schizo shit?" they got bribery not only legalized, but protected by the first amendment.
See more logical fallacies.
how is My Vote not power.
I can vote for who I want.
That influences who gets elected.
Who gets elected influences where power is directed.
How is my vote not power? Try again
>how is my vote not power
because you can either vote for what corporate interest wants, or what corporate interest wants.
No. I can vote for who I want.
Try again.
you're voting for who corporate interest wants, or who corporate interest wants.
did your vote stop the sacklers from legalizing the opium trade for them and them only?
>chinaposter brings up opium as a political issue
literal pottery
>pointing out the utter abomination that is the supreme court's ruling in citiznes united vs the fec means you're chinese
you're fricking stupid dude. they robbed anyone who isn't on the fortune 500 of literally all political agency by granting bribery constitutional protections. all you have left are the illusions of influence you're clinging to.
but illusions are always the last thing to go
what's with all the chinks ITT?
>291 posts
>53 posters
oh lol I get it
I write in a candidate. I can write in a cat to be my mayor for fun. We have elected animals as mayors to frick with political parties.
I can write in whoever I want to be president.
So last try I will give you, how is my vote not power.
because that's never going to happen again. every sitting elected official will have been placed there by their corporate masters and your vote is entirely irrelevant.
we cat as sitting mayor in my state...
You idiot.
where are you actually from? how are you this schizoid and ignorant. lol this thread is hilarious
>we cat as sitting mayor in my state...
yes and what part of china would that be? I know you lot have a wacky, fake government, but that has no bearing on the united states.
michigan...
the cats name is sweet tart.
i am from michigan
you are not, you are a chinese "person" posting on a VPN.
>getting this defensive about being a doubleposting moron
holy kek
no. I'm pro democracy and mocking the chinese and russians for living in tyrannical nanny states.
my vote has power. that's why we vote.
>I'm pro democracy and mocking the chinese
oh so you're a self-hating chink then, even better lmao
Stop posting autist, you don't belong here
>Be me
>be hahhhhd-ah-working america-joe
>me drive car arr way to macadonarousama's
>wait rong time in macadonarousama's rine
>get bored, me so tired!
>finarry get to yerr-box to order macadanarou's mear
>"Oh herro, missah ordah-man, is order time now yes?"
>bzzzrrrt ffrrzzzt "ah-yes, ah-prees continue with your ordah very much"
>"Okay I have ah-one macadanarousama coffee... Ver Hot!"
>grab coffee wif my yerrow hands
>prace coffee for temporary moment by peepee nono spot
>"ok, time for me to ah-return to raundrooomat for rest of work day"
>coffee spirr! it everywhere!
>"oh owie! ahhh, huht ah-rear bad, ahhh herp me macadanarousama"
>no herp
>not even reprace coffee
>I sue them fo everyting they have
Why america work rike this?
Didn't read one single line of your wall of text nonsense.
>anon is proud of being illiterate
well, when you're as hopeless as the chinese, gotta be proud of something!
That’s a town, not a state, and that just means your town has given up mayoral powers. Probably because the rest of your local politicians want as much corporate money as possible, instead of most of it going to the mayor.
Dude, you're not making a difference when you go to a booth to vote. It's akin to thinking your letter of concern to a senator will be read and taken into consideration. You're thinking of democracy and your individual power on a 'it looks good on paper' kind of way when it has zero semblance to the reality of the situation. But go ahead and vote, it makes no difference to me (or you).
>It's akin to thinking your letter of concern to a senator will be read and taken into consideration.
it absolutely will if it's a fashionable issue
My dude, you're delusional. You're like a boomer who believes in political salvation. Get with the times, you don't matter at all and you have zero influence with the way your country is heading.
oh wow I am demorarized, china is best!
Weak people want a nanny state.
Strong people demand democracy
>weak peepur rive in merica!
>strong peepur rive in china! gong hui fat choi!
yeah.
Russia, China, now india are all nanny states. Brazil is becoming one, same with mexico.
Democracies require strong populations or they don't work. The people have to remind those elected into power, that the elected officials work for the citizens.
Place like russia, china it's the citizens who work for the elected officials.
Democracies are chaotic and wild but they work. It takes balls to have one. Some people can't take the chaos and in fighting, so they want a "strong man" to take over and a nanny state.
Americans demand rights, votes etc because we have balls.
america is the biggest welfare state outta all those
right...
you have to have terrible english or playing some weird semantic obtusity shit
Stop watching TV. I mean it, throw it in the garbage. I haven't watched TV in over a decade. I don't say this to demoralise you but it's just the reality of the situation. Think about it, how could the average goy overturn the fiat system that was imposed by the most powerful people in the US back to the gold standard? It'll never happen, I guarantee it. It's there because they wanted it to be and it's going to stay. It's the same with any other decision that matters. You're not a mover or shaker, you're a nobody like everyone else.
>I haven't watched TV in over a decade
who cares when your government is forcing you to hang out on Cinemaphile 12 hours a day, for very little money?
At least I don't do it for free.
>at least I'm better than a janny, one of the worst jobs there is
I'm very proud of you anon, you've achieved so much with your tiny yerrow hands.
its okay, that's what they want you to think.
citizens united was able to remove all the power of voting in 2010 by arguing that limits on lobbying and campaign contributions were violations of free speech. so vote as much as you can, lol, it won't matter because they're going to have absolute control over anything you can vote on until this country collapses or we hang everyone that allowed the country to get to this point. ya know, what they thought was happening on january 6th
so lets flip this then, replace temperance with veganism so maybe you can understand what's happening today
>veganism gets all non-vegan food banned
>but, non-vegans continue to exist, continue to eat meat, because who's going to stop them, vegans? lol
>vegans have to push for greater restrictions and criminalization of veganism (prohibition)
>eventually this fizzles out and the ban is lifted
>pro-meat eaters and "vegans" still exist
people who don't like drinking still exist, there are still tons of laws dealing with how/when/where a person can drink, huge amounts of regulations on who can distill what and how. therefore "pro-drinkers" still exist, because they want those regulations/laws reduced/removed.
Sorry anon, I’m not going to humor you until you meaningfully engage with the actual argument.
the actual argument
>all single-issue political groups are stupid because they all cease to exist when they get what they want
The actual argument was that veganism is a reactionary movement, reacting to concerns about ethics in food production. Absent of those concerns, veganism no longer has a meaningful function, and would disappear. This makes it an especially silly and frivolous ideology. They find the food industry unethical, they don’t find eating eggs or cheese unethical. The reaction doesn’t actually “directly follow” from the issue itself and is superfluous.
>Absent of those concerns, veganism no longer has a meaningful function, and would disappear.
except their concerns ceasing to exist will never happen. see
>nooooooo you cant say that because it might not happen!
is this really the hill you're going to die on anon?
>might not
won't. even during prohibition, alcohol flowed freely no matter what anyone said or did. there are still dry counties/states in the united states because in some places, temperance movements still have power. they still exist. their opposition still exists.
why is this difficult to comprehend? is it because you just refuse to entertain the fact you're wrong?
I love how you're fixated on the temperance bit I tossed off as an example. If you wanted my attention so bad, you didn't need to do this whole song and dance to get it.
>here's an example of what i'm talking about
>here is how its wrong
>lol u rly want my atteniton
okay, so you realize how stupid you looked and now you're pretending that you're trolling, and pretending anyone who points out how stupid you look is a vegan. got it.
>VIDF still flailing
>still won't meaningfully engage the real argument
>just strawman after strawman and whining
Gee, I wonder why I'm being glib with you right now anon?
anon, does everyone alive drink and/or support drinking just because the biggest temperance movement ended? this is your argument. as a drinker, my horse in this dumb race, i know this to not be the case.
>yet another strawman
I must've made an ironclad argument if no-one will engage with it in earnest.
>all vegans would cease to exist if all products of meat animals were banned
this is your argument. its nonsense. proven by the temperance movement and its relationship with alcohol.
>another strawman
I don't expect chinks to have the best reading comprehension, since they're so braindead and all, but could you at least try to be coherent?
i guess i just have to accept that as the closest thing to a concession as i'll get. you really don't understand the flaw in your argument, or you think you're trolling.
>ahhh hyyyuuuu do not undastant yo own argooment whyboi
You haven't even engaged with my argument, Xiao.
>veganism is silly because it will stop existing if things that will never happen, happened
... yes... its veganism that's silly... not you. no...
temperance/prohibition just shut down alcohol production for long enough for "regulations" to get put into place, ya know so only the elite could distill and sell alcohol.
completely low IQ take
the earth is everything
we are nothing without it
>the earth is everything
>we are nothing without it
No it isn't. You've just been indoctrinated into thinking it is. Face it, your life is meaningless without other people telling you to worship Gaia.
Are you trying to argue you could live without the fricking planet you live on?
No, but following some arbitrary dictates by paedophiles isn't going to save the planet, nor is the planet in any danger.
>No it isn't.
why dont you blast yourself off into space and see how long you last then
technocrats have filled our glorious world with so much plastic that now zoomers have 1/10th the sperm and testosterone ass their grandparents, thats your future
>technocrats have filled our glorious world with so much plastic that now zoomers have 1/10th the sperm and testosterone ass their grandparents, thats your future
You know what's going on but you support the same technocrats telling you to stop eating meat because cow farts are going to kill us all?
>You know what's going on but you support the same technocrats telling you to stop eating meat because cow farts are going to kill us all?
just stop dude the world isnt black and white, us vs them, theres nuance
for instance im a prolife pro 2nd amendment environmentalist
im sure that sentence just short circuited your brain
>loses argument
>DUDE THE WORLD ISNT BLACK OR WHITE ITS 50 SHADES OF GRAY
Sorry anon, not gonna frick you
hey flag detector, these are foreigners right?
I never implied it was. You haven't made a single point, why bother replying with useless rhetoric?
>technocrats have filled our glorious world with so much plastic
that's mostly the fault of india and china though. they're also launching most of the soon-to-be-trash into space.
>Amerishart won't take 1 shred of responsibility
For God's sake man. Yes India and China are polluting shitholes but that doesn't make Americans that much better.
all i'm getting from your post is
>yes america isn't a shithole but... AMERICA BAD
Yes, because you're indoctrinated into pure black and white thinking, if you went through military boot camp tomorrow, you would enter the Christmas season with a more open mind.
>military boot-camp removes black and white thinking
... in what reality?
That's the joke. It was an insult.
and you think i have a closed mind because... i can tell that your screaming is focused on your imagined enemies? that you good they bad?
>screaming
>imagined enemies
A tad of projection perhaps?
Let's recount how you got here.
Firstly you said that Americans are the only Cinemaphileners worth their salt here
then when I said Americans should take SOME responsibility for the planets pollution you just took it as an attack on your country here
so I made the joke you were overly patriotic with this post
it wasn't an attack and I'm disappointed no-one understood the intention of the post but oh well, that's autism for you.
Motherfricker it's multiple anons saying that stuff. Are you a schizoid. Multiple anons. Americans aren't all the same people. But you guys seem not to have any creativity. You seem to be sheep. We are just pointing it out.
>Schizoid personality disorder characterized by a lack of interest in social relationships, a tendency toward a solitary or sheltered lifestyle, secretiveness, emotional coldness, detachment and apathy.
I think you were trying to say Schizophrenic but your Amerishart brain hurt itself in confusion.
>You seem to be sheep.
I'm the sheep when multiple American posters are indistinguishable because they argue the exact same thing? What irony!
We weren't saying the same thing. someone even pointed that out.
Both of the posts were overly defensive of America which is why I thought it was the same poster.
see
if you attack something, a third party pointing out that you're attacking it isn't defending it
That's not us defending our country.
That's us calling you a schizophrenic freakshow.
Way different.
We just like insulting hateful shitshows like yourself. We critique our country way more than you foreigners could. But you are worthless to humanity.
How can I possibly have any chance of having a civil discussion with a person who continually calls foreigners worthless? I'll criticize you in another thread, you'll shit your pants, I'll try and explain myself and you'll shit your pants again, I guess that's what this website is now.
I wasn't saying "America Bad" though, which is why I criticized said anon. The thread was about pollution not American culture and people in general.
I'm not shitting my pants anon. I'm enjoying insulting buttholes for fun.
What is wrong with you. It's just a website to banter and shit talk. Nothing more nothing less. If it upsets you, you are schizoid. Because it doesn't upset me or normal people. I can just turn it off. I'm going to go do stuff now.
Get help
You don't know what a schizoid is, I already defined it for you and you still misuse it.
I don't just consume American media though, I try and read a variety of stuff. I'm not attacking American people, just brash posters who say stupid things. But I still think pollution over there is a big issue even if it is being curbed at a far higher rate than China and India.
>pollution in america is a big issue
... anon you're in china. where its a complete non-issue because no one is allowed to make it an issue.
I'm not in China. I'm in a country that has been dragged into 5 American wars and counting.
That's another subject but the problem is the same for Europe and US. Real efficient means of curbing real or perceived pollution are ignored for friends and middlemen doing backroom deals for the dumbest shit imaginable. Its why you had Germany completely reliant upon russian energy and when it was brought up a few years ago they laughed, or why UK ships wood from Canada and US to burn for "green" energy. Its all a big joke. Funny enough, new versions of old tech can help, things like building up rail infrastructure like the Swiss to get freight off of roads but we are too busy jacking eachother off over paper straws and giving China billions of dollars through things like the Paris climate accord.
your opinions on america/americans are worthless, because all you have to go by, really, is our media. which is unto itself worthless drivel that exists only to turn every possible issue into an us vs them narrative. most americans know its absolute bullshit, but we haven't been able to get a real voice in the media since occupy.
most of us are just moving to rural areas and buying guns.
>most of us are just moving to rural areas and buying guns.
Lmao what a LARP. Why do foreigners always do this?
most of the population of the US has always been outside of urban centers, my friend.
oh great, now both of you are turning on eachother, alright, have fun.
What?
Kek definitely a larp.
you know that voting maps don't show people who didn't vote, right?
And there it is, he bases his entire knowledge of the US on the politics that are distilled to him in whatever backwater yuropeon village hes from. Why are foreigners so obsessed with the “rural” United States? Hardly anybody who lives in what you’d call a “rural area” sees it that way. Unless their community relies heavily on agriculture/animal husbandry, they don’t consider themselves “rural”, even in a lot of “farming communities”, the Ag infrastructure exists mostly separately from the town/city.
okay you have fun in your little psychosis there, i'll continue living in rural united states and using the shooting range i built on my property.
fun fact: voter turnout being over 50% is considered a huge win.
It’s just such a bad larp, you’re obsessed with guns and voting. I’d bet serious money that you’ve never even met an American in real life.
yea, i really seem like the one who's obsessed here. you on the other hand seem perfectly sane.
>anon does a shitty larp
>somebody notices and says something
>”y-y-yer obsessed!”
anon, you're sitting there screaming and shitting yourself that i'm not living where i live, own what i own, and do what i do. the reasons for which are completely unknown to everyone except you.
>shitting yourself
I just touched my butthole and my finger came up clean, now what anon? Got anything else I can debunk?
Most Americans voting republican are voting against their own interests..
>voting
most Americans have woken up to that being bullshit.
I call it the lesser of two evils, voting stil does make a difference in the long run
voting only makes a difference if unlimited legal bribery can't completely change a politician's opinions. as they don't need "your" votes if a corporate entity or billionaire can simply conjure up a few million as they see fit.
being able to tell that you're just blindly raging about what you imagine americans do isn't interpreting anything as an attack on "my" country.
He's a dumb homosexual and I hate the fact 4ch makes me a terrible person.
Yeah well you know what I hate? [spoilers]Mondays[/spoiler]
Cinemaphile only makes you a terrible person if you're already a terrible person
>starts shilling the Israeli foreign legion
huh?
>You've just been indoctrinated into thinking it is.
What?
If you have to ask, you're behind.
What’s wrong with the brown people delivering food? You’re giving them a job. The fast food part is the only shit part of that equation.
Oh, I don't mind them having work, more that I am being lazy, yes supporting the fast food industry is the bad part, being that they create so much waste that we have no way of getting rid of this century.
Yeah and it’s also really bad for you. If you really feel sad about not being more environmental in your life, it’s never too late to start. There are little things you can do to get involved in community gardens, recycling drives, farmers markets, etc that would only be a couple hours a week. If you start small building habits then you will slowly get more and more involved if it’s what you really want. If it turns out that’s not what you want, then you should be honest with yourself and stop getting upset/beating yourself up about it. Paying attention to politics and voting appropriately can be another angle to participate.
Thanks fren, very constructive post.
Of course man, I hate hearing about that kind of demoralizing ennui you described - feels like modern culture is tailor-made to engineer that inside people and I find it disgusting. Always good to remember there are ways to break free from it, but you can’t expect to do it all at once if certain behaviors have become habitual. Good luck to you.
you're either 22 or moronic
either way who cares? make your life better now or have a nice day
anything after incredibles is soulless
>You WILL sit in the floating chair.
>you wirr sit in chair that froat fo rong time
I won’t Chang, I won’t.
I reckon if you added a BnL vaccination scene into this movie it would've predicted 2022 perfectly.
Antivax really are the vegans of psychos
What's wrong with vegans? It's not like they're wrong.
Veganism is an arbitrary system of beliefs that takes a reaction to a real ethical dilemma and extrapolates that into a jackbooted, irrelevant practice. Veganism stops making sense when you realize they wouldn’t alter their beliefs *at all* even if you solved all of their ethical hangups with consuming animal products. They’d simply find new reasons for doing what they already do.
>irrelevant practice
>implying shrinking the market for meat consumption won't lesson the environmental impacts of factory farming
>Veganism stops making sense when you realize they wouldn’t alter their beliefs *at all* even if you solved all of their ethical hangups with consuming animal products. They’d simply find new reasons for doing what they already do.
That is complete nonsense. To say that hypothetically people who you obviously haven't engaged with irl would all, uniformly, behave the same way in another world that doesn't fricking exist, you're a loon!
We live in a world where these ethical hangups DO exist, which makes vegans right.
I am not a vegan myself but I don't understand why they get so much hate and if your argument is anything to go by, their most vocal critics may all be imbeciles.
>We live in a world where these ethical hangups DO exist, which makes vegans right.
So you’re not replying to the post I made at all, then. Got it.
the vegan hate meme is just astroturfing by the food industry
Veganism breaks down when you realize how many of them still use animal products in day to day life. But to the vegan, that doesn’t actually matter, because they aren’t eating them.
>We live in a world where these ethical hangups DO exist, which makes vegans right.
Vegans don't have a basis for what is right or wrong. You're the imbecile here.
i think he basically meant that they never shut up about veganism. it's not rare expression to say that X is vegans of Y thing
Well this is a fair criticism and if he had said this, I would have conceded that some vegans I have known were particularly obnoxious but instead his argument went into la la land.
I believe this wholeheartedly. I saw some meme on social media a while back with some guy eating KFC at a vegan valley and if that's not planned viral marketing, I don't know what is.
I don't think I've ever seen somebody mention they're vegan before lol, but I see memes about how vegans never stop talking about veganism almost daily
*sips* Yep. Nothing like cracking open a cold one and watching some WALL-E.
This film was a low-key redpill.
one of the best things you can do is dig a giant composting pit in your backyard
you'll start noticing that about half of your trash is actually just free fertilizer
you can also burn your paper waste if you're rural enough
>half of your trash is actually just free fertilizer
half my trash is plastic and the other half is aluminum
why is this thread such a screamfest despite the fact OP ignores that the fatness was all-but induced by the controller of the ship?
>why is this thread such a screamfest
first day on Cinemaphile?
the thread should've just been laughing at the OP for being such a moron that he missed a massive plot point.
instead its Cinemaphile
This is probably the most fun I've had in a Cinemaphile thread all year.
That's how bad this board has gotten.
I hate fat "people" so god damn much it's unreal, bros.
This is what happens when you don't get Cinemaphile
>no this film isn't anti-fat and pro body shaming, there is nothing wrong with being completely immobile and having evil hal 9000 robots do everything for you
>no this film isn't actually capitalist and consumerism, the planet being destroyed and everybody getting fat and diseased off mcdonalds is a good thing
how can one kino make both sides cope and seethe so bad?
>no this film isn't actually capitalist and consumerism, the planet being destroyed and everybody getting fat and diseased off mcdonalds is a good thing
Who exactly are you quoting here? Can you please proof read your posts in the future? I know this is a free website but I'd much rather not be exposed to such incoherent schizobabble in the future, thank you.
>stands up
>redeems humanity
Great scene
Reminds me of Janny.
No it didn't, my dad saw that shit and went "yep, looks about right".
One of his favorite Pixar flicks, but he's also a huge sci-fi lover. Star Trek, Dune, etc.
are all the BBC posters and troony shills are third worlders?
Maybe, but the ones who take the bait definitely are
can i get a screenshot of flags on this thread i dont really believe that app would do such a thing its not like Cinemaphile releases individual IP addresses
why are zoids so eat up with baby movies?
Stop posting like this, it really makes you look stupid. Nobody "pissed and shit" themselves over anything you sped kids use this for.
My mom is peak boomer and told me I was watching a piece of shit when she saw it on my laptop back then.
This movie is very close to being accurate of what the future is going to be like, but we won't have space cruise-ships, nor cleaning robots that have intellect, because people are concerned about why a rice brand is racist and how you're another sex if you think you are but you also are but you're not but you are. Not to mention how corporations blow atmospheric aids every minute but cows farting, eating meat, and driving cars are more demanding than that.
Why don't these subhumans understand us in the states can see where they are from now? This guy is a schizoid. Look at him.