This show is actually pretty good isn't it...
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hi rich
So this is the power of Disney star wars...
They filmed this shit and said. Yep that looks good!
I liked it.
I thought it showed well just how much more powerful Vader was than her. He was toying with her throughout.
You liked when she started break dancing for no reason behind him while he flailed behind his back like a moron?
it's her culture. stop being racist
It’s fricking garbage. Please show me where in the curent established canon Vader letting someone who betray him alive, TWICE.
The entire show was written as vehicle to give a redemption arch to some character we never heard of and universally disliked.
He stabbed her in the gut and left her to die in an empty ruined base. He didn't spare her.
The Obi Wan show is pretty pointless - It doesn't hold a candle to the Mandalorian, but I never felt it was insulting Star Wars like the sequel trilogy did.
She's been impaled twice in the gut BY THE SAME GUY, yet she'll live. She stabbed the grand inquisitor in the gut and he lived. THREE TIMES IN ONE SHOW GUT IMPALEMENT FAILS TO KILL. Apparently no important organs got cooked and the area around it didn't heat up and fry either.
Sabers are inconsistent anyway. They can hold a handle that's 1-2 inches away from plasma that's a few thousand degrees, it slices metal and people like butter, but it can also be used to liquefy hardened blast doors, but also cuts hardened blast doors like butter.
>set sabres to stun
Isn't that sort of a thing? Training sabres or something?
it was when the prequels came out
>mfw this is why he makes sure to decapitate Obi-Wan when they fight on the Death Star
>that pic
nugget doll bruh!
Completely agree. Even at their lowest points the shows mog the ST, especially mando.
>He stabbed her in the gut and left her to die in an empty ruined base. He didn't spare her.
Yes, because Darth Vader usually just inflicts a minor wound and figures "Eh, they'll probably die from that." Especially failed and traitorous underlings. He doesn't Force choke them until they're dead or divide them into various fractions with his lightsaber. Nosirree.
Their entertaining an audience of tards at this point. No point in trying too hard.
>somebody choreographed this
It doesn't look like anyone did, actually. Hot garbage.
Its good because its so bad, just like Space Cop.
He literally had a force field up.
It looks like a fricking Dark Souls boss fight. I did like how Vader blocked the negress's lightsaber with his hand though.
Looks like a Power Rangers fight but worse.
I don''t see a problem best saber fight we have ever had in wars
I hate how you're right.
It's just so slow anyone can see the problems this time.
WTF??
This is great. It makes Monostatos look like a complete mook, which is of course the point, which you would know if any of you morons actually watched this instead of regurgitating whatever Cokehead McGoo says.
It's kinda bad, it's really slow despite all the screaming and supposed force (heh) put into it there's no reactions to the blows and it ends super anti climatically.
I mean this makes Obi vs Vader ANH look good by comparison.
This shit is way worse than the fights thay had at Kamen Rider Wizard, a cheap weekly japanese super hero shown where the main dude transforms by playing scatman songs.
You're comparing a show from a country where children are taught martial arts in schools also you're wrong
> you're right, but it's unfair since everyone in japan knows karate, also you're wrong
what?
The fact that the average japanese e-girl can kick your ass is incidental to the fact that you're wrong about the comparative qualities between the fight scenes in these two shows
I don't know what's more racist, you saying every asian knows kung-fu, or disney making a black woman fight rolling on the ground, is she going to fight swinging from branchs and chucking spears in the next episode?
Shillbot malfunctioning. What the frick are you talking about?
God, I take so much pleasure in watching Disney destroy your space wizard series. I love imagining some fatass in a robe watching this, seething as their baby becomes more dumbed down for 5-year-olds.
>how would you like it?
My baby was already destroyed years ago, it's your turn.
>That part where vader punches turd sistah from 3 feet away and she still rolls like it hit
kek
Look I hate it as much as anyone but that was clearly a force use
Please tell me you're joking and that you really know that was Vader using the Force.
Anon, you do realize only some 10-15% percent of Cinemaphile watch the show or understand anything about star wars, right?
If a person watched it, they would simply see it's a mediocre show with barely anything to even be angry about.
It's not the shitstorm that the ST was, and it's not the beacon of hope for the franchise.
It just exists and the most people could latch onto are literally a few fight scenes and Hayden not being de-aged.
>Anon, you do realize only some 10-15% percent of Cinemaphile watch the show or understand anything about star wars, right?
Amazon employee delusion? 15% of Cinemaphile is not watching this shitpile lmfao
Very, very, very bad.
idk it’s a tough choice but I think prequels had better fight scenes. close though
I honestly really liked the parts where he was blocking it with his hands, but when it got here, it looked clumsy.
this would be so easy to make so much cooler. Dont watch the show but make it like he barely has to even move to fend off her attack like he's playing with her. He has so many weird wasted movements. Just stand there like a cool badass and wave your finger every time. Its so easy. why is Hollywood so fricking DUMB?!!! Is it because they had to make sure da black woman had a chance?? Against LORD DARTH FRICKING VADER?? DON'T U UNDERSTAND HOW TO KEEP YOUR IP COOL????
>but make it like he barely has to even move to fend off her attack like he's playing with her
That pretty much did happen. The vast majority of the people commenting on the webm haven't seen the show and don't know how the fight progressed.
>make it like he barely has to even move to fend off her attack like he's playing with her.
That's literally what happens though. He can't put NO effort in at all, that wouldn't be interesting to watch, but the entire fight exudes "Stop trying to hit me and hit me!" She doesn't even get in a lucky hit that makes him say something like "That won't happen again."
The start where he didn't even draw and was just using the force for naked blade reception and not even trying against her was super badass. Idk why they had to go and dumb it down and ruin it
YASS QWEEN
Im at glad that at least vader completely bodied her
...and then inexplicably left her alive, despite us seeing him kills subordinates for even sneezing wrong. Guess he read the script.
yeah its stupid, I was just worried theyd put the negress on his level
the thing is though, leaving her for dead is another sith mind-screw. Palpatine did it to Vader all the time. Each time he would come back more mad and more powerful.
why are the fight choreographers for star wars so shit on this disney shows/movies
N-No you see it's good because it looks like complete and utter shit! WE KNEEL TO DISNEY
It's subjective. You can attach a webm from any lightsaber duel and say "this looks like shit".
It's what usually happens with any action scene, in fact.
Like a car chase that is passable but you caption it with "OH NO NO NO" and suddenly it means it's bad.
I can't. Disney has produced nothing but complete and utter garbage
Its impossible to make a good looking laser sword fight because
1. medieval sword combat wasnt a guy fighting a guy both using a longsword without armor or shield because it would be moronic
2. if you swing 2 longswords without guards at each other theres gonna be fingers flying around
3. the moment you overpower your opponent with strength or speed the fight ends from a deadly would being inflicted because they have no armor or shield and laser sword enters your body
4. you can kamikaze kill your opponent because they have no armor or way to block your weapon if youre unafraid of bodily injury
5. doing shit like like micheal tyson dodging punches or rolling around isn't an option, a leveraged stick moves a bit faster at the tip than you can react to and your only option is staying away from strike range and immediately move back when opponent makes a move and doing. It'd be like https://youtu.be/nGearEu2PlU where the fight ends 1.5seconds after round start.
6. force powers can do everything and nothing at the same time so who cares
7. a realistic fight is never going to be shown because of how dull the concept is
8. just pull a gun and start shooting, what the frick is wrong with guns in sw?
Or just don't have dogshit direction that isn't consistent with the things you're stealing from.
You miss the main point of lightsaber duels.
Using the Force gives you basically limited precog powers so you can anticipate and counter an attack and it's honed until you do it intuitively. You essentially have to use the Force to COUNTER the other person supernaturally anticipating your moves.
If two opponents are equal or close to it the duel will be drawn out since neither one can out-Force the other, but if one of the combatants is vastly superior there's nothing the other can do.
That's also why only the jedi can fully utilize the lightsaber as a weapon despite the obvious dangers of handling it. They "see" how to use it effectively through the Force.
In Vader vs Reva's case, there simply nothing Reva can do to outdo Vader. It's impossible since he's so far above the in Force powers he can see all her moves way in advance and she can't "see" his so he's just toying with her for a bit sadistically.
>just pull a gun and start shooting, what the frick is wrong with guns in sw?
Blaster bolts can very easily be blocked/reflected with lightsabers or caught with the Force, that's what.
General bone to pick didnt block ewan mcgregors bolts with his mind
Grevious can't use the force
morono
Space Ghost thanks you for using the appropriate word for moronos.
moronos number one, forever.
>You can attach a webm from any lightsaber duel and say "this looks like shit"
Or maybe they're just all shit?
who the frick thought deborah chow was capable of the job??
Did you actually watch the episode?
yes, and i'm trans.
any other questions?
>i'm trans
No further questions, you have my condolences.
I've watched every episode. It's a fricking mess in terms of writing and direction.
Hard to believe that the same woman directed some actually good projects, like Better Call Saul S4E7
Different contexts and writers. Still, I fail to see a problem with the fight scene aside from the fact that he "killed" her in the dumbest way possible, practically ensuring she'd survive.
Vader himself was accurate to how he would handle such a fight in it's progression, but didn't end it appropriately.
The choreography is like something you pass by at comic con or whatever. The woman actress is HORRIBLY slowmoving and trudging.
Darth Vader Ultra Instinct edit please
>N-nani?????
SAY IT
I KNEEL, I'M SO SORRY I WAS SO WRONG
George should have straight up just put Star Wars in the public domain
>and lose billions
he needed the money to continue his expensive habit of hunting down harrison ford with spielberg and raping him
For me? It's when she starts rolling around on the floor with her back turned Vader. Absolute kino-choreography. Kinography, if you will.
Looks like it's improv choreography wtf. Dart Vader doesn't even look menacing at all...
He's just fricking around.
It's clear from the start he's just flexing and she can't do shit to him.
>Dart Vader doesn't even look menacing at all...
Because they also missed the point of having Vader appear in tight rooms and narrow corridors. You can't have your horror villain be scary when he is just out in the open.
fricking LMAO how can people watch this shit?
>force user has to look behind his shoulder for the target
The frick is this? Did this happen at a part I went to the bathroom at? I'm done with the show after watching this. This character is ASS.
Why did they cast her? Was it on purpose? They were waiting for the backlash (objectively bad actor) and wanted to call people out for being racist? No one even likes her canonically. She sucks.
>Did this happen at a part I went to the bathroom at?
You had to use the bathroom while watching a streaming show at home and didn't pause it? It's not actual, unpausable TV, anon...
Just to spell it out for you, this implies I'm not completely invested in the show. You'll learn.
you're like the moron in that midwit bell-curve meme. you have the right opinion in the end, but you're still a potato
Explain your pea brain logic.
Kek I actually started laughing
Good lord
she's going to end up beating up him isn't she?
Full moron if so. I can’t believe Disney would be that stupid to let Darth Vader lose a fight in anything taking place before episode 6. It’s franchise suicide.
Rogue One and the episode 5 of Kenobi fight show that they actually might know what the frick they’re doing with Vader at the very least.
This might also be true of Boba Fett provided that he ultimately becomes Mandalore as he did in the old EU.
How many times did Vader have the high ground in that?
Why is she just doing tactical rolls?
Why is she doing a easily blockable spin attack?
Why is she fighting her commander anyway?
>Why is she fighting her commander anyway?
She's trying to kill him because she wants revenge because she was a youngling when Anakin attacked the Jedi Temple in Revenge of the Sith.
She was pretending to be moronic going after Obi-Wan to reveal she wanted Vader all along even though she had plenty of opportunities to kill him
Why did strong black sistah queeeeeen survive getting stabbed through the chest but not Qui-Gon?
>using wonky camera moves and cuts to disguise your shitty choreography
I see what they're doing here, sneaky bastards
my dad put this on in my living room and even my middle aged mum said this looked stupid
It's like watching two old people fighting for the last pudding at some random retirement house
What the frick is this nonsense? Why is she fighting Vader? Why are they treating her like a main character?
this series was just for setting up a new one about the black chick who cant act for shit.
sorry you came late to the party.
Well, I haven't seen it, so no wonder I am late.
That's what a figured though.
I don't give a shit what you homies say, Vader doing a saber throw is always kino af
Using it to bait out the spin he force parries is dank shit, what did you guys expect
Who is this character, Rocksteady-Beebop-Count-Michelangelo? What does he fight with
It's the Sesame Street Count Von Count as Akuma from Street Fighter
>Rocksteady-Beebop-Count-Michelangelo
I see literally no TMNT anything in this picture, anon.
I thought the gloves reminded me of shredder, and the sandals of the turtles. I may be wrong it's been a loong time getting from there to h
6.5 to 7/10
almost good as ROTS, better than TPM and AOTC
I'm tired of the false flaggers pretending ROTS was OK. No prequels, no sequels, and Return of the Jedi sucks aside from the literal Jabba puppet and the throne room.
have a nice day all 6 movies are good
Why pretend to be an asshurt, pathetic Gen Xer? The prequels are objectively worthwhile and the sequels are objectively garbage. They're not comparable, shill.
Frick you Return of the Jedi is great you pessimistic homosexual
you bait but there are people who unironically parrot this garbage take
no it's not stop watching RLM
RLM are right about most things
>the prequels are bad so kenobi is "super ok"
have a nice day.
They even admit their expectations are nonexistent. That's why they didn't trash it .
Why would you have expectations at all for non- HBO VoD trash?
>unironically listening to a paid disney shill
it's worse than boba fett
No it isn't.
It's shit and RLM has always had shit opinions when it comes to Star Wars and George Lucas
>It's shit and RLM has always had shit opinions when it comes to Star Wars
>It's shit and Rich and Mike have always had shit opinions when it comes to Star Wars
FTFY.
Jay clearly thought it was a pile of shit and the only entertaining aspect of it was it being laughable.
If it where up to Mike and Rich Star Wars, Star Trek and all content, really, would be characters talking with minimal action.
If anything they like action that's running concurrent with dialogue. what they hate is when there are whole cgi sequences where it's just junk (transformers lol)
>characters talking with minimal action.
HOLY BASED
Nah. They were 100% right about the prequels and the fact that Lucas is a soulless hack who can’t write dialogue for shit and only cares about selling toys.
t. hasn't watched the prequels and just parrots false information
the prequels are genuinely terrible
Nope they're genuinely well made films that only boomers hate
Wrong.
you mean bad
Revenge of The Sith is better than ESB
put down the vape for a second and think
bro I saw them growing up and the only cool part was the podracing and the big droid battle at the end, sorry. the other two were to shit to even remember anything from them except people waving glowsticks around trying to look cool when actually they look like children playing pretend on the playground
Have you actually tried to rewatch them?
it's just people slowly walking through hallways having inane conversations in shot-reverse-shot while genuinely moronic things are constantly happening in the story, punctuated by perhaps the most idiotic scene in history; whatherface dying of a broken heart and then he goes NOOOOOOOOOO. if you saw that out of context tell me you wouldn't believe it was satire.
they're fricking so bad, I think you're just fricking with me and pretending to think otherwise
not that it isn't okay to like "bad" movies, I like bad movies, but at least I recognize that they're bad. Mutant Chronicles is a shit movie, I still like it. I liked that other one with thomas jane too, "I Frankenstein" or something. that movie is great.
but the prequels don't even ham it up enough to be enjoyed for how absurd they are, they're just fricking boring as all hell throughout
So no you haven't watched them or even worse you watched some cherry picked shit like the RLM reviews.
Because Obi-Wan already knew he could fricking do that. Not to mention He was being wienery that whole scene
i bet u believe that ur only paying 5x normal for gas because we just havent sent enough of our own personal paychecks to ukraine? we should keep laundering...er i mean giving more money to them when we are totally broke already so we can defeat the horrible evil from a specific nation we arent at war with, even though we aren't nationalists we hate them all from that one nation and support the other nation...etc...yeah bet ur one of those.
Not an argument. And I don't give a frick about Ukraine. Russia can have them.
What was Dooku's motive? What was the trade federation's motive? The entire prequel trilogy is only almost watchable because of what a wonder it is that such an iconic pop culture franchise could lay such a boring, unlikable stinky turd. Its just so horrible all the way through. Now this is podracing! WEEEEE
The Trade Federation wants the plasma from Naboo and is in protest of formerly untaxed trade routes in the Outer Rim.
Dooku want to become a sith lord and to rule the galaxy better than the jedi who he saw as ineffective
Lmao if you actually watched the movies instead of parroting rlm you'd know both those answers
>well made
>we must go-sa through the planet core to get to where we landed
>if obi wan saw this he would be very grumpy!
Nothing you posted refutes what i said you scruffy looking nerf herder
>thinks 1 meme character means that the entire trilogy is not well made
nice bait homosexual.
Too much CGI, two actors sitting in a green room badly reacting to things they can't see or have props for. Stilted dialog is a pain. The 'romance' is non-existent.
I do like the story underneath. Can't ever give it more than a 5/10.
'Badly reacting' how so? What makes them bad? There were tons of practical sets for the prequels, but yes there was a lot of blue screen as well. But all the actors who weren't literal kids did fine. The romance was fine. Some scenes were better than others.
Look at the scene with grievus or whatever unfurling his billion lightsabers and spinning up on Obi-wan. Dude just stands there, passively, zero indication that the actor has the slightest clue about what his character is supposed to be seeing. If he hadn't READ THE SCRIPT and KNOWN that he wouldn't be getting cut down, he would've gotten cut down right there.
You have to be autistic to look at a scene like that and not cringe because of how terrible it is.
The prequels had more practical effects than the OT
stop getting your opinions from plinket
you're right but the hivemind doesnt like it. every watch gets better and better
t. just rewatched ROTS last weekend
I'd agree with you but RLM told me they're bad, so I have to parrot what my favourite e-celebs tell me
I haven't even read the replies yet but you're based on account of making trannies seethe
>They were 100% right about the prequels
no, also they're star trek fans, they never liked star wars to begin with
ESB is one of Jay's favorite films of all time
>ESB is one of Jay's favorite films of all time
ok and? people that don't like star wars like empire strikes back for some reason but hate the rest, is like the morons that only like the last jedi but everthing other than that is...le bad!
I'm not really a fan of RLM outside of some segments that I've found funny, I just don't think they hate Star Wars. Rather, the prequels were too different from the original trilogy, and this bothered them.
I like the prequels despite some of their flaws.
I'm confused I thought they didn't like it, but I didn't actually watch the video. I'm just going off of Jay making people seethe on twitter by making fun of it.
I hated it, but then I saw the new re;view and I actually think it's okay now.
PUTO
Puto does not mean the same thing as puta.
its so bad its unwatchable
It is now. Everybody, stop pretending to hate it. Kinobi bros rise up.
I swear this entire series was written by a bunch of fat women who have no clue about Star Wars or the established canon. Every thing about Vader is wrong.
The best one:
>Why would Anakin kill poor defenceless youglins?
Because if you don’t, they fricking come back and seek revenge. So yeah, from his point of view, Jedis are fricking evil.
how's ukraine going?
It has dumb parts but I am enjoying it.
>pretty good
My man, even reddit at this point know it's shit.
that redditor hit it bang on
that redditor should come here, he clearly doesn't belong there
Lemme know when some autist has a cut that clips out 90% of 10 year old baby and the negress
>yfw it ends up being 1 (one) episode
Pretty much this, I'll wait for an edit that trims the fat, improves what they can, and rescores the whole thing.
I feel like I'm weird for even thinking it's mediocre. Even reddit hates it and the only people I see defending it are the bottom of the barrel stans.
It's weird, there is a lot of outrage, some people genuinely seem to not enjoy it at all but are pretending to like it so no one thinks they're racist. Me I can pick out plenty of stuff I like and hate and it's enough for me to enjoy it but with lots of complaints.
the only people who like it are the type of people who comment on IGN facebook posts
I keep thinking this is Jeff Bridges
Deborah Chow:
>"You know, we always did conceive of this as a limited series. So it's not an adventure-of-the-week sort of story. It's one big story with a beginning, middle and end. So I think this story was very much conceived to be its own standalone."
>"I mean, there are of course more stories that you could tell. There's obviously another 10 years before we get to A New Hope and with a character like Obi-Wan Kenobi, I think even just watching him ride across the sand sometimes is interesting.
Look at that last part.
"and with a character like Obi-Wan Kenobi, I think even just watching him ride across the sand sometimes is interesting."
Disney absolutely knows they don't need to deliver any substance, just provide some memberberries and people will lap it up. They've won, they know they turned the audience into cattle.
> just provide some memberberries and people will lap it up.
I abhor the fact that many have forgave her for this horrible show in exchange for that 30 seconds of training between Obi-Wan and Anakin.
What I don't get about this is that Disney knows that normies are going to watch this shit no matter what. So why not give the creative power to fans who will make something the actual hardcore fans want to see? The whole reason Mando worked out is because Disney fricked off and let Star Wars fans make a Star Wars show.
>I think even just watching him ride across the sand
i didnt see any poster or trailer or anything and so this is what i had hoped the show would be, just obi wan living on tatooine doing his day to day keeping sand people and shit away from luke, watching over him. subtly pushing him in certain ways from afar.
but no we got the adventures of leia
It’s not good, it’s terrible!
Cool concepts and fleeting moments of promise floating in a sea of turds.
The acting all around seems pretty terrible
>Obiwan.. now that’s A name I haven’t heard in a long time, a very long time.. I haven’t gone by the name of obiwan since all before you were born..
Uh, I thought Luke and leia were twins? Is leia 10 years older than Luke?
Yes, Leia is not Luke's twin. There is another Skywalker.
Someone post that clip of the badass boss b***h Black personess fighting the snow speeder
Obi-wan detective adventure would have been better.
I think this show redpilled me on the nature of star wars
The setting is so good Disney can pump endless dogshit stories and it will still be watchable
It's a blessing and a curse
it's aggressively mediocre
thank you. you alone spoke truth. God favors you
Aggressive mediocrity is the bottom tier for entertainment though
some might say it is the outer worlds of tv.
I'll watch any old shit, and I think Obi Wan's feelings about Vader are interesting and very watchable.
But god damn that last episode was really poor.
You mean the one before last. It airs on Wednesdays, remember? The latest episode was great.
Darth Vader was cool, but the writing was extremely amateurish.
We're talking about a Star Wars property so that's normal.
This was bellow the level of competence I expect from forgettable escapism.
But whatever, I'll still drink that garbage.
I'd give it a 6.5/10, maybe a 7. Definitely not living up to the hype. I remember they stopped production and basically rewrote/reshot the whole thing and it shows. They should just stay away from skywalker saga stuff at this point and keep making tie in shows separate from the main storyline
Obi-wanbros........we won........
Yeah actually I was thinking that it's cheapness actually benefits the show.
First two episodes were good.
Third was bad and Obi-wan and Vader should have never met Vader between episodes 3 and 4.
I haven't watched anything past that third episode.
>Hey, where have you been the last week?
>I suppose I needed some time off.
>Yeah? Well try lazing around like that again and you'll be looking for new job.
Ending it like this would make it okay in my book.
Objectively no
And it doesnt have the excuse that its 100% green screen and directed by Lucas so it should be better than prequels but isnt.
But it is worth watching for the "its so bad its good" factor plus just the spectacle of Disney further corpse-fricking the franchise into the ground.
>rebel base gets attacked
>they rely on a 10 year old to open the hangar door
>they also only have 1 grenade, which one of the rebels decide to hold on top after activating it, blowing themselves up
seriously?
yes but you forgot that both of those problem solvers were women so therefore it was brave and powerful
no it sucks
Vader stopping the ship and ripping it apart was pretty cool, also the fight with Reva was ok-ish... everything else sucked
>stop first ship
>forget to stop second ship
>second ship accelerates faster than any take off we've seen before, so fast in fact that a man with precog can't react
>no FTL yet vaders ship doesn't shoot
>vaders ship must have conveniently been on the other side of the planet for reasons
>reva screams before swinging
>reva doesn't sneak attack while vader is dealing with the ship(s), this would have been the best time for her to help the rebels escape and get revenge
>GI is still alive after a gut stab, and apparently GI and vader have been stringing reva along, so getting merk'd was part of the plan, what if she took his head instead of a gut stab where she left him for dead and never confirmed the kill
>GI and vader have been stringing reva along, so getting merk'd was part of the plan, what if she took his head instead of a gut stab where she left him for dead and never confirmed the kill
I don't think the Grand Inquisitor getting stabbed was part of a plan. I mean obviously someone had to pick him up and take him to the Emperor Palpatine Emergency Medical Reconstruction Center and heal him so he didn't die, so he probably told Vader what happened once he had recuperated and they worked from there.
Still very dumb to leave her operating whilst pretending to not know she's soon to take a stab at vader. They know her background and had eyes on her. Just an all round strange thing for the two of them to do. Vader normally just kills traitors, but this time he played along.
so is there just 6 episodes?
thankfully
This entire show suffered only from bad directing. The plot ideas and themes were solid, the writing wasn't terrible, but the performances felt rigid and mismatched, like the director didn't know what they wanted from the actors.
>The plot ideas and themes were solid,
Wrong.
>the writing wasn't terrible
Wrong.
It's not the worst Star Wars thing Disney has made. Parts of it are even a little fun.
It's on par with rise of skywalker....
Has the show actually had any good scenes that weren't just Vader being a badass? I can't remember any
No
Vader hasn't been bad ass
Yes he has homosexual. His toying with monke girl like she was a literal child was fricking kino
The scene with Owen telling of Obi-Wan at the beginning was kind of good.
I would have liked to see more about that relationship in the show. I'd like to see how what should be a tense and awkward relationship settles into the cold and distant one we see in ANH. That one scene kind of skipped all that, but looking back, that one scrap of backstory is one of the only things in the show that made me feel like learned something I want to know.
I strongly suspect they're planning a second season where owen and beru might have more scenes, but we'll see.
6 episodes seems too little.
>The scene with Owen telling of Obi-Wan at the beginning was kind of good.
It was shit. And made no sense
>Obi Wan tells a random Jedi that the war is lost and to bury his lightsaber
>next scene he tells Owen "I will have to train Luke soon!"
Uh...so why train Luke if the war is over? And when was this training going to take place? Luke only got trained in ANH because he got the R2 droid. Obi Wan didn't seem to be any hurry in training him before that. And even Yoda said that Luke was too old in ESB.
I don't even strongly disagree. I'm just trying to come up with any moments that were worth watching unironically, and the closest I can come up with are that scene and Vader shitting on the black chick.
>so why train Luke if the war is over?
For one thing, he could ensure he doesn't turn to the dark side if he teaches him the way of the Jedi, and thus he would prevent a second Vader.
It's clear this is a source of embarrassment for Kenobi.
>For one thing, he could ensure he doesn't turn to the dark side if he teaches him the way of the Jedi,
If you don't introduce him to the force there would be no reason to "turn to the dark side" as Luke wouldn't know what the frick that is.
That's not how it works
>forgetting the meat-packaging kino
Just watched the newest episode. Ewan seems like he doesn't give a frick, which he probably doesn't to be honest. First episode was serviceable. Every single episode has been shit since. Kid Leia was a fricking horrible decision, and it looks like bringing kid Luke into the mix is the next move. All the alien makeup looks like absolute shit. That one fat mole guy that picked up Kenobi and Leia took the cake for the absolute worst costume I have ever seen by a multi-million dollar production. When Kenobi knocked mole guy out, he literally tumbled over in a way that suggested the actor thought they were going to cut away. And they fricking didn't, they just left it in. What a complete shit show.
no
From a certain point of view xd
Kek.
No. It fricking sucked.
The writing was horrible and made adults look like idiots while making a little girl seemed like she had better reasoning abilities than her guardian adults. The "grrl power" shit was insulting as well seeing as how everybody knows any random 15 year old boy can push the shit in of any woman. The plots were dumb as frick, inconsistent, and forgettable.
Total shit show. Total let down.
>while making a little girl seemed like she had better reasoning abilities than her guardian adults.
I dunno, I haven't thought Leia has come off as smart or reasonable at any point after she told off her cousin for dissing droids. She's been a usual Stupid Movie Child That Causes Problems For Everyone™ pretty much ever since.
They're clearly trying to have it both ways. Like when they get a ride from the mole man with the truck. Obi-wan is all
>buh buh don't talk to him I'm scawed
then Leia is all
>Excuse me sir, may I weave a touching backstory off the top of my head to prove that I'm savvy and my Jedi Master protector is a coward?
then Obi-wan goes
>Durr hur whoops I spoiled our cover in front of the stormtroopers
The mole guy betrays them but it's all just plot railroad anyways.
Then there's the interrogation scene where she comes up with a promising bluff. And also she gets complimented for being "so strong willed."
It's all bullshit where she does in fact frick a bunch of things up by being oblivious, but at the same time, every time she makes a decision the show presents it as spunky and brave. That's how it reads to me, at least, but I could just be oversensitive to the tropes of terrible feminist writing.
Ah, yeah, I forgot about the dead mother cover story. Fair enough.
>Hey Obi Wan Kenobi, Bail Organa here. Haven't heard any updates about your mission to rescue my adopted daughter Leia and was just checking in. I'm going to Tatooine to see how Leia's twin brother Luke Skywalker is getting along at Owen and Beru's farm. I can never remember if the address is 175 West Judland Blvd. or 176, but it's out past Tosche station so how hard can it be to find? Anyway I sent a few dozen of these message pucks out across the galaxy to let you know I'm keeping a low profile to avoid the watchful eye of Luke and Leia's dad, Darth Vader. Still crazy to me how he used to be Anakin Skywalker. Oh well, hope you're doing good, haven't heard anything from the Emperor, think we've really got him fooled this time!
>Hi Obi Wan Kenobi just wanted to drop you a quick holo update on this space-pager that is not encrypted in any way. Tere is no way for me to know who listens to this but I was so worried that you got captured.... I am of course senator Bail Organa and getting a bad feeling about things so I will visit the children of Anakin Skywalker, also known as Dark Vader. One of them lives on Tatooine with his uncle Owen. Anyway I will go there to ensure their safety. I hope this message finds you well and you are not captured by the Empire who we are trying to hide the children from. It would be bad if they found out. Anyway, you are a good friend.
Why wasn't this guy killed right after RotS? He's a well known Jedi sympathizer, playing ball and obeying is fine, but I'd have thought Palpy would clean house better.
Nah, not really. For every good thing it does, it does a worse thing in return.
Why is Vader so fricking overpowered now? The greatest thing he ever did in the OT was choke someone. Making him this powerful makes half the shit he does in the OT make no sense.
Did you forget him effortlessly chucking shit at Luke in ESB
>Why is modern content that is capable of making people look cool and powerful making someone look so powerful compared to old ass movies with basic as frick combat
It's not about combat it's about him being able to effortlessly pull back massive ships at a moment's notice. The most he ever did in the OT was throw small to medium sized objects and choke people.
Why the frick didn't he just levitate or ground half the people in the OT whenever they ran away from him? How was Luke ever able to escape him at the end of ESB?
>Why the frick didn't he just levitate or ground half the people in the OT whenever they ran away from him? How was Luke ever able to escape him at the end of ESB?
He clearly LET him, just like he let Obi-Wan escape at the end of Episode 3.
>making someone look so powerful
I like how you left out the "cool" part as if this
wasn't anything but garbage
he has normal mobility now for some reason that's the only shit making him so much stronger
>Why is Vader so fricking overpowered now?
There was hype over Vader's portrayal in Rogue One, where he is presented like a horror villain. They are trying to recapture that.
>now
absolute state of casuals
>Why is Vader so fricking overpowered now?
He's fighting actual Jedi/Sith now. He needs to put in more effort than he would against Han Solo or random Rebel soldiers.
Also, remember that the transport ship in Obi-Wan hadn't built up to full speed yet. He probably can't just yoink any random ship going at full speed with the Force.
I like how Disneyshills have to write half the script of the show and its retcons they're defending. Always a sign of quality
To be entirely fair, knowing he has a son with the rebellion might have made Vader more hesitant. He was in more of a “let’s see how this plays out” mood than a “kill everything that I disagree with” mood in ESB, as evidenced by his convincing the emperor that Luke could be “a powerful ally.”
He stopped a blaster shot with the force.
>Vader being OP
literally one of the VERY FEW things nuCanon does better than the EU
So stupid seeing him being a walking Cenobite torture device and getting repeatedly disarmed by random jobber Jedi
>Comic relief guy dropped Obi Wan's communicator for left-for-dead Reva to find.
>This is the equivalent of someone dropping their phone with a text message open.
>Good.
>Grand Inquisitor twist.
>Based on the meta idea that Disney would be dumb enough to actually kill him off.
>Good.
>Point blank laser battle with no cover.
>Good.
>Convenient second ship tp escape on.
>Good.
>Empire were reliant on Lola Robot to stop them escaping, not ya know, launching Tie Fighters or anything.
>Good.
You're all pic related, aren't you.
WHY THE FRICK CAN'T THEY CREATE SECNARIOS WITH CONFLICT AND TENSION. WHY IS EVERYTHING SO PAINFULLY DUMB.
Nice one chud
Thermal detonators against Jedi are suicide, they can force push it back. I see you're not very educated on the matter.
why did the slave woman from HBO's Rome get this long, drawn out emotional sendoff that was egregiously more melodramatic than any main character in the six films
Obi-Wan was a crying soijak compared to the Qui Gone scene in TPM, not very Jedi like in portrayal
slave? she was the wife of vorenus and she killed herself when he found out she had been unfaithful.
>inb4 any married woman is an slave cause of patriarchy
>Empire were reliant on Lola Robot to stop them escaping, not ya know, launching Tie Fighters or anything.
Yeah, wtf. They didn't even set it up properly. It was "I put a tracker on Leia's toy droid--I mean Obi-Wan." Then next episode, it's not just a homing device, but programming sophisticated enough to detect when it's in an important hangar, find a way to disable egress, and do so without detection.
Also, they have no clue why the doors shut, but he says "It'll take 3-4 hours to fix." For all he knows, some kid sat on the button. And he hasn't even attempted a diagnoses yet. But he needs 3 hours, (and "You've got one hour!" wow, so this is what new frontiers of scriptwriting brilliance look like).
And then Leia volunteers to go in to the vents and see what the problem is, and no one even asks the 10 year old girl if she knows enough about hangar control system repair to even be helpful. "You trust me and I trust her", says Obi-Wan, apparently confident that she's a certified electrician.
But who needs established skillsets when you've got girl power, right?
What are we going to do when we find out the Acolyte is about her?
The Acolyte is set in the High Republic, like 80 years before the prequels. It is about a young black woman joining the Sith who are manipulating the Republic.
Aka, how the Sith were actually pretty cool until evil white male Palpatine subverted their order for his gain.
I like how this homie comes in after he stabbed her and hypes vader up
Why is Kryten now a Star Wars character?
This was embarrassing. The most powerful special effects in the known universe and they have Anakin looking like an old man in a kiddie costume
yeah i didnt even realize it was supposed to be a flashback til i came on here. i assumed it was vader imagining what would have happened if he didnt turn bad, since hayden looked 40. maybe showing his inner conflict, or maybe even obi wan imagining it
This show made me hate Star Wars all over again. Who is this even for? The people who haven't seen the original trilogy? Or is it meant to be used as a tool for Star Wars cultists to indoctrinate their progeny into the fandom?
>Who is this even for?
Look at that tweet:
The majority of people are like that and are find most things enjoyable regardless of quality. Also I know people hate RLM but to quote them:
>DON'T ASK QUESTIONS, JUST CONSUME PRODUCT AND THEN GET EXCITED FOR NEXT PRODUCT
Streaming is just built for overhyped "big event television" that is also so bland that it then prepares you for the next slop on the plate, all to keep you subscribed. Notice how many blockbusters now just come and go? Nothing leaving a huge impact anymore? Literally all discussion gone after a month if that? Everything needs to be the MCU, everything needs to be a franchise, everything needs to make big bucks. Mid budget films are gone because everything needs to be huge budget tentpole blockbuster or gimmicky universe franchise to appeal to zoomer FOMO.
The part that got me the worst is how they could have a hushed conversation through a door that a heavy mounted blaster turret couldn't break through.
Why did they need a blaster turret when she had a lightsaber?
How about them speaking about betraying Vader near 50 Storm Troopers, not even whispering.
Force Whisper
I didn’t realize how much I enjoyed this show until today
>until today
What, you saw the RLM review?
Kidding aside, the show does have some serious flaws, but there is potential there and it's honestly not that bad. It's just slow, which wouldn't have been a problem had it not been only 6 episodes.
/tv/'s best jabs at the show so far have been to take make some out of context webms and screenshots of wonky moments, and the dey hea meme.
The actual writing problems have barely been addressed. And a solid portion of people commenting on this haven't even seen it.
How did the rebels even escape? Wasn't there a star destroyer waiting for them out of orbit?
Don't think about it! Just enjoy the lightsaber flashbacks! You can buy your Reva toy for the cheap price of $49.99!
>Wasn't there a star destroyer waiting for them out of orbit?
This makes Vader look like an idiot for grabbing the first ship out of the air in the first place, why would he bother doing that if he had already closed the net on them?
>why would anger man tear open a ship to get to the object of his obsession?
>I am very smart
anon...
>anger man
There's the problem, that's the way Vaders been portrayed in this series, a big angry robot with no tact and who everyone should be afraid of because he'll snap their neck and drag them around like a brute and literally tear ships apart instead of excercising patience and forward planning like he does in the OT.
>a big angry robot with no tact and who everyone should be afraid of because he'll snap their neck
>"I find your lack of faith disturbing."
>"He's as clumsy as he is stupid."
>"Apology accepted, Captain Needa."
>"Be careful not to choke on your aspirations, Director."
How the frick is this an inaccurate portrayal? He's not having some quiet father/son time with Luke in this series.
Vader has never just straight up snapped someones neck or dragged them around in the movies, its not his style. He's always used a choke hold, even before he was in the suit, thats a Vader staple (slow, agonizing pain), he frequently used it as a tool for channelling his anger in that specific way, slowly. It fit Vaders character well, plus 3 out of the 4 of the quotes you presented were said either before or after Vader choked someone.
Different situations.
With imperial officers he wants to make a point, not cause permanent damage (unless he wants to kill them).
Why would he even bother slowly choking some dirty peasants on some shithole planet.
>Why would he even bother slowly choking some dirty peasants on some shithole planet
Because that's what Darth Vader does, choke fools. The situation makes no difference. He could have just as easily choked the person to instill fear in others and to motivate them to talk out of that fear or in an attempt to extract the information out of the target directly like Captain Antilles in Episode IV, or for what the purpose of that scene actually was ( to draw Obi-Wan out), that would have made sense for Vaders character and worked just as well.
None of that means that Vader ISN'T a big angry robot that everyone should be scared of. He's literally always been that. And if you're complaining that Vader usually shows more patience and planning, again, that's literally what he just did with Reva. He's been playing her ever since, at the very least, she tried to kill the Grand Inquisitor.
>He's literally always been that
But never just that, thats the problem and thats mostly how he's been shown because of the lack of decent dailogue he's been given to give his more overtly violent actions meaning.
>that's literally what he just did with Reva. He's been playing her ever since, at the very least, she tried to kill the Grand Inquisitor
And that was all told after the fact, in one line of dailogue, to explain away the lack of Vader actually doing or saying anything of substance or anything that shows that this guy in a suit is Darth Vader.
>Good
Vader (a jedi master/sith) can actually tell what some moron half jedi is thinking and feeling
Vader relying on the force the fight to compensate for his lack of mobility (longtime eu established lore)
Disney didn't 'forget' the GI is alive in rebels (still a moronic twist)
They explained how she knows who vader is when he kills everyone else who finds out
>Bad
No, some moronic mining transport with busted hyperdrive can't escape a star destroyer that knows where it's coming from and is already in orbit just because vader's on the ground
"Hello obwan, jedi master, Bail organa here just dropping in to talk about my daughter and her hidden twin brother on tatooine
Vader's portrayal in this show has been pretty bad imo, instead of having actual dialogue it feels like all of his lines are supposed to be epic one liners and he's not actually conversing with others, little things like the way he moves and his mannerisms don't match his OT appearances and Rogue One at all ( even in Rogue One he had back and forth dailogue with Krennic that sounded like an actual conversation and the way he fought the rebels at the end was very faithful to the way he moved in the OT), the way it has been done doesn't sell to me that this is Darth Vader, I guess it's more like "this is Anakin in a suit" but it's very jarring giving that there was no development of that idea until just the last episode and even then that was a flashback, not something in the current context of the events of the series.
Apparently, from what I've read, they aren't having James Earl Jones just read his lines naturally, they're having Hayden Christensen say the lines on set and then having James Earl Jones match his delivery, which is... not the greatest strategy...
I feel the exact opposite. I think his back-and-forth in this show feels like a "normal" conversation far more than the R1 stuff.
It just makes sense that the inquisitors fear and revere him and he wants to maintain that aura.
He's not their buddy-buddy boss, he's someone that can kill them on the spot if they disobey him or even step out of line.
The only reason he allowed Reva to talk shit is because he was using her the entire time.
Basically the inquisitors are his lackey slaves and Krennic and later Tarkin and the imperial high brass are on a different level and are handled with a different tone.
Grand Inquisitor‐sama...
If you dont like the prequels I don't see why you think the originals are better. They have silly melodrama too. Why even bother with this thread or the series?
I just can't help but think that the direction is total shit because the person in charge simply has no any kind of sensibility for a space opera setting.
One example from the latest episode is the "attack" on the rebel base or whatever it is, hangar I guess.
iirc Vader is all "commence the assault" and then you see these two feeble tiny craft departing for the surface. The visual language of it is just really really weak. It doesn't not look like any kind of assault and instead just some diplomatic shuttle departing. It has no punch to it to match the lines.
Then the stormtroopers just appear, all standing still in this anemic formation in front of a giant door. No geography of the planet is shown or established, no "alien planet" flavor, just them on a flat obviously fake stage standing in front of the door, idling.
Then one of them gets the big gun out and start shooting at the same spot. It just looks absolutely atrocious and pathetic. This is the best Vader can muster up? A couple dozen stormtroopers standing around while one of them shoots a big gun at a door? And he's after his nemesis? C'mon.
Then we cut to the inside where the "rebels" are just sort of standing around, again idling and complaining about shit. There's no sense of immediate danger or them running around doing stuff and fussing with equipment. No we get some oaf saying "I can't get shit done" and everyone just shrugs their shoulders. Same sort of anemic inert presentation and it again looks like some flat, featureless sound stage.
When the stormtroopers finally breach the door and get in they get into a firefight with the rebels where they stand like ... 10 feet away from each other and just shoot in this mundane way where every 50 shots fired they hit one person. It just looks horrible. No action is conveyed at all. It just looks so flat and uninspired.
Same kind of weak presentation was used in the Vader vs Kenobi fight in a previous episode. Zero stakes with everyone sleepwalking around
The directing is a major problem. It's absolutely abysmal. And the same director did all 6 episodes so the problems are persistent. Absolute inability to direct action
How did RLM not make the very obvious joke that it was just O K (Obi wan Kenobi). It was right there.
Its a shitty bait and switch.
it's terryblly written, even mcgregor looks lost in bad lines
lolno. its literally the worst disney content yet.
Sick of all the strong black sistah bullshit. How the frick does Qui-Gon Jinn die from a lightsaber right through his chest, but strong black sistah queen SURVIVE a lightsaber right through her chest from DARTH VADER? das' rite white boy it do be like 'dat I survived Vader cuz black whamen are magical.
>Qui-Gon, Jedi Master, dies via lighter saber stab through the chest from lesser Sith Lord
>strong black sistah gets stabbed by DARTH VADER through chest
>survives
Frick this coon trash.
Better than most things coming out and better than 80% of Star Wars shows/movies but that doesn't make it good
My main complaint was the inquisitor was going to have a "wow, she was so cool" end to her character. Now that the show came around and said she wasn't, it's just an average show that could have done more.
>This show is actually pretty good isn't it...
not really
I thought the inquisitor's arc was predictable but also made a solid amount of sense from a storytelling perspective; I'm not sure what else they could've done with the character. I would've preferred subtle foreshadowing rather than an emotional ejaculation to reveal her motives. Obi Wan vs Anakin fight was well choreographed, I'm surprised more anons aren't complimenting it
Slow motion scenes where Obi Wan is fighting and calling a character's name repeatedly is such fricking catastrophically bad cinematograpy I'm actually amazed they fricked it up so hard. Battle at the door was furthermore fricking stupid because both sides didn't use cover
Nigress vs Vader had a bit too many acrobatics on her part, but was maybe the first time in all Star Wars the force got used in a fight like it should've, 9/10
Verdict: Miles better than all the sequels. We'll likely look back on the series more fondly than we regard it now. Thanks for reading my review