/pol/tourists on Cinemaphile are on perma cope mode over JD Washington since he’s a really good actor with lots of swagger. Tenet is one of Nolan’s best, following Inception.
>swagger
Not falling for the bait. He is a good actor but I think he needs just a little bit of cheesiness to be as successful as his dad. He is just >serious black guy.
I'm not into that. In a few generations actors like him will have a lot more success.
It wasn't terrible but it could have been better. They also mislead me at one point by saying they are confused by how it works and it doesnt make sense so I took that to mean I shouldn't try to follow it too hard and the ending was supposed make more sense than I made of it.
Also I couldn't understand what they were saying a lot of the time.
Hilarious imaging them sucking shit into their butts and regurgitating food while being conscious of the fact.
That line doesn't mean "turn your brain off now please, audience", she's telling him he shouldn't think too far ahead because physical action is required to make two events going in opposite directions causally link. If he never put his hand over the bullet there is no chance he could have dropped it, but if he does put his hand over it, the likelihood of that event occurring is now greater than it was.
Yeah but I was wondering should I be trying to follow everything closely and I took that line to mean I should turn off my brain and just enjoy. Which was wrong.
because it is more of a thought experiment than a conventional movie. Most people cannot deal with anything that differs from their tiny world of thought
I like how you come to the realization that the protagonist is the leader of the Tenet group and all the missions he has are because of himself in the future. Many other realizations like that come very subtly in this movie and it doesn’t waste time to be like “see how cool this realization is?” and just lets the audience figure out the impact of certain events. The only exception is the ending with Pattinson talking about the end of a long friendship but that one is warranted because it’s heartfelt.
I swear this is Nolan's worst kind of autism.
The dynamic range of most movies is already ruined because people can't mix for shit, we don't need artsy people justifying it with "but why do you want to understand what people say when you can just feel the vibe".
Modern sound design is a fricking travesty. You can go to any 80s movie, even the fricking direct to VHS slop and they have more understandable dialogue than we do now. What the frick.
I was honestly really good and I don't understand how people can't follow it, the plot is fairly easy to understand, didn't even need a rewatch, which I did to fully get the Prestige.
Still, it's Nolan at his most self indulgent. And the ending battle is incomprehensible which isn't acceptable for an action movie.
Conceptually it's very simple, I'm talking about how it's shot. It's all centered on the setpieces, you can't really see the enemy, and it has to be color coded to even make any sense.
I thought it was not enough, I wanted more. The final battle was one of the coolest parts with lots of past meeting future travellers and criss crossing in temporality. For me it’s a highlight of the movie.
>I don't understand how people can't follow it, the plot is fairly easy to understand, didn't even need a rewatch, which I did to fully get the Prestige.
What the frick? It's the exact opposite. Tenet is convoluted, but The Prestige is straight forward(if you actually pay attention and remember the narrations).
Maybe it's just me but I like to get drawn into storytelling so stories within stories always throw me in a loop.
And understanding who the narrator is at which point is crucial to understand the Prestige, as you kno.
Needlessly complicated for incredibly little payoff. How the frick did the same guy who made Memento, The Prestige and Inception make this soulless movie? When you finally understand the movie, you're just left with a feeling of "ohh.. okay.. I guess that's cool".
The only cool parts of Tenet were the plane scene, the highway scene, the scene with the 2 "turnstile"/glass panes, the scene where Pattinson swaps red/blue and the following fight, and that's pretty much it.
It's not a BAD movie per se, I'd just rate it a 6/10, especially when you compare it to Nolan's other movies. As I mentioned, he made Memento, The Prestige and Inception, which all do a much better job at telling a good and coherent story, while also taking you on a journey of trying to piece things together, and then once you finally do piece them together, it feels satisfying. I never felt that with Tenet, for some reason.
It just became an exhausting clusterfrick at the end when the militaries were fighting in their temporal call of duty match and then you watch the main characters with the barred doors undergound and shehdbauzhx woalznbwishfn Edward from Twilight saves the day.
I couldn't get over the scene where they were hauling soldiers into battle in a container airlifted by a Chinook, when a Chinook is actually a flying container for soldiers. It was supposed to look tacticool but it's so fricking moronic it took me right out of the movie.
I had fun with it in a very simple way. I like how Nolan shoots things. His establishing shots are often marvelous
And I like the big setpieces. I like the plane crash. Liked when they were on boats. The scene in the art storage. Oh, the intro was cool too with the orchestra.
It's no secret Nolan loved classic era James Bond and one gets the impression he was again channeling that energy. "You want black bond? How about this instead"
All that being said I didn't get a whole lot out of the narrative. JDW's acting was bland. Some of the moments and lines with him were clunky. But it was all a bit hard to gauge fairly. It came out in the middle of pandemic round one. I drove out many miles with a buddy to a different county where theaters were still open. Nobody was there. I was just happy to be in a cinema, so I left the place glowing
But Tenet didn't stick with me in the same way Oppenheimer did, or even Dunkirk.
I couldn't understand it one bit. The white girl had no ass but the black guy acted like she did. Why? Nolan doesn't do enough to explain if this is just how his universe works.
it’s confusing and the black guy is boring
entropy is confusing on its own let alone reversed entropy shit
He was even a charisma blackhole in Ballers too.
anyone who questions movie science is anti-fun
It's got filters within its filters.
The production quality was good, and it looked good. And it wasn’t dull to watch.
But I could make no sense of it.
it has some nice set pieces, but that's about it.
/pol/tourists on Cinemaphile are on perma cope mode over JD Washington since he’s a really good actor with lots of swagger. Tenet is one of Nolan’s best, following Inception.
>swagger
Not falling for the bait. He is a good actor but I think he needs just a little bit of cheesiness to be as successful as his dad. He is just
>serious black guy.
I'm not into that. In a few generations actors like him will have a lot more success.
cause brainlets
It wasn't terrible but it could have been better. They also mislead me at one point by saying they are confused by how it works and it doesnt make sense so I took that to mean I shouldn't try to follow it too hard and the ending was supposed make more sense than I made of it.
Also I couldn't understand what they were saying a lot of the time.
Hilarious imaging them sucking shit into their butts and regurgitating food while being conscious of the fact.
A reverse shit probably feels awful. Going from feeling releaved to feeling like you need to take a huge dump.
That line doesn't mean "turn your brain off now please, audience", she's telling him he shouldn't think too far ahead because physical action is required to make two events going in opposite directions causally link. If he never put his hand over the bullet there is no chance he could have dropped it, but if he does put his hand over it, the likelihood of that event occurring is now greater than it was.
Yeah but I was wondering should I be trying to follow everything closely and I took that line to mean I should turn off my brain and just enjoy. Which was wrong.
because it is more of a thought experiment than a conventional movie. Most people cannot deal with anything that differs from their tiny world of thought
Because it was pretty bad
I like how you come to the realization that the protagonist is the leader of the Tenet group and all the missions he has are because of himself in the future. Many other realizations like that come very subtly in this movie and it doesn’t waste time to be like “see how cool this realization is?” and just lets the audience figure out the impact of certain events. The only exception is the ending with Pattinson talking about the end of a long friendship but that one is warranted because it’s heartfelt.
I can't hear you, you have to speak up
Lmao, you really had to use subtitles for some scenes.
I swear this is Nolan's worst kind of autism.
The dynamic range of most movies is already ruined because people can't mix for shit, we don't need artsy people justifying it with "but why do you want to understand what people say when you can just feel the vibe".
Modern sound design is a fricking travesty. You can go to any 80s movie, even the fricking direct to VHS slop and they have more understandable dialogue than we do now. What the frick.
Lead should have been Pattinson.
I was honestly really good and I don't understand how people can't follow it, the plot is fairly easy to understand, didn't even need a rewatch, which I did to fully get the Prestige.
Still, it's Nolan at his most self indulgent. And the ending battle is incomprehensible which isn't acceptable for an action movie.
Nothing incomprehensible about the last battle. It’s a temporal pincer attack.
Conceptually it's very simple, I'm talking about how it's shot. It's all centered on the setpieces, you can't really see the enemy, and it has to be color coded to even make any sense.
It was too much and you know it.
I thought it was not enough, I wanted more. The final battle was one of the coolest parts with lots of past meeting future travellers and criss crossing in temporality. For me it’s a highlight of the movie.
Actually I agree, balls to the wall and just embracing how chaotic such an engagement would be would have worked better.
Still, the opening setpiece is just a more compelling setting for a timewar: doing subtle alterations in chaotic events.
Maybe they should have set it in a real battle or something. But with the Tenet people infiltrating the whole fight.
>I don't understand how people can't follow it, the plot is fairly easy to understand, didn't even need a rewatch, which I did to fully get the Prestige.
What the frick? It's the exact opposite. Tenet is convoluted, but The Prestige is straight forward(if you actually pay attention and remember the narrations).
Maybe it's just me but I like to get drawn into storytelling so stories within stories always throw me in a loop.
And understanding who the narrator is at which point is crucial to understand the Prestige, as you kno.
>WHY THE HATETAH??
Needlessly complicated for incredibly little payoff. How the frick did the same guy who made Memento, The Prestige and Inception make this soulless movie? When you finally understand the movie, you're just left with a feeling of "ohh.. okay.. I guess that's cool".
The only cool parts of Tenet were the plane scene, the highway scene, the scene with the 2 "turnstile"/glass panes, the scene where Pattinson swaps red/blue and the following fight, and that's pretty much it.
>every big setpiece is cool
>but I don't like the movie
I don't watch movies just for "LE BIG EPIK SCENES" there needs to be some good substance too, otherwise I would just watch Marvel movies on repeat.
It had a nice emotional core getting the son to hold his mother's hand again, and the friendship between the two leads.
It's not a BAD movie per se, I'd just rate it a 6/10, especially when you compare it to Nolan's other movies. As I mentioned, he made Memento, The Prestige and Inception, which all do a much better job at telling a good and coherent story, while also taking you on a journey of trying to piece things together, and then once you finally do piece them together, it feels satisfying. I never felt that with Tenet, for some reason.
Poorly mixed sound, nonsensical time travel mechanics.
I liked it because the protagonist would call himself "The Protagonist" and it had Debicki.
It just became an exhausting clusterfrick at the end when the militaries were fighting in their temporal call of duty match and then you watch the main characters with the barred doors undergound and shehdbauzhx woalznbwishfn Edward from Twilight saves the day.
I couldn't get over the scene where they were hauling soldiers into battle in a container airlifted by a Chinook, when a Chinook is actually a flying container for soldiers. It was supposed to look tacticool but it's so fricking moronic it took me right out of the movie.
It’s easier than having to retrofit a chinook with reverse time gas pressurization just for a single trip
I had fun with it in a very simple way. I like how Nolan shoots things. His establishing shots are often marvelous
And I like the big setpieces. I like the plane crash. Liked when they were on boats. The scene in the art storage. Oh, the intro was cool too with the orchestra.
It's no secret Nolan loved classic era James Bond and one gets the impression he was again channeling that energy. "You want black bond? How about this instead"
All that being said I didn't get a whole lot out of the narrative. JDW's acting was bland. Some of the moments and lines with him were clunky. But it was all a bit hard to gauge fairly. It came out in the middle of pandemic round one. I drove out many miles with a buddy to a different county where theaters were still open. Nobody was there. I was just happy to be in a cinema, so I left the place glowing
But Tenet didn't stick with me in the same way Oppenheimer did, or even Dunkirk.
It's a fun spy/caper movie. I saw it twice on 70.
Cinemaphile cannot cope with Nolan making kino.
The lead actor has absolutely no charisma.
I couldn't understand it one bit. The white girl had no ass but the black guy acted like she did. Why? Nolan doesn't do enough to explain if this is just how his universe works.