Not gonna watch it. Shit im not watching any Snyder movie after Army of the dead. That shit was abysmal, only good memory of that movie is me losing my shit laughing over The Cranberries ZOMBIE playing at the end. Dont know why he have so many followers tbh
Originally it was contrarianism directly related to the rise of the MCU during the 2010s, and then it became contrarianism over the backlash Snyder received, now it's just...supporting Snyder because that's what you've been doing for years now, they don't even remember the why. They occasionally vomit out some bullshit vague reasons mostly related to attacking the MCU and not actually extolling any virtues of Snyder's films. The point is, it's a fanbase fundamentally founded on console warring, which is the worst possible foundation you can have for a fanbase.
>Dont know why he have so many followers tbh
They're mostly pajeets and people who hated the MCU back in the day and wanted to be contrarian by enjoying the DCEU
>literally every thread about it was shitting on it and whining about the director >this somehow duped you into watching it
This is either shitty bait to make YET ANOTHER thread whining about Snyder in addition to the 12 we already have or you're a fricking moron
the only 'comedic' moment was when the robot is pushed into some cgi horseshit and it gets all over his face. moments before this happens the cgi horse is showing shitting.
Nothing happened besides 2 characters building a team, introducing members of the team, then they barely interact with each other then land at the final battle at the end. There is little to no character interaction, it’s all just set up for a second part or a big directors cut with actual character moments
I have it playing again for the third time this time in the background and I was thinking exactly that. This version is just focusing on the backstory of the main character and the extended cut will show background on the party members.
Because that's how movies work. They just leave out the compelling parts and demand you return for them at a later date.
5 months ago
Anonymous
That's how a series works, which this practically is. Dunc got banger reviews despite being even more guilty of that, so I don't see why Rebel Moon should get shat on over it.
5 months ago
Anonymous
It's not a series. It's a movie.
5 months ago
Anonymous
It's a movie series. And there was meat there already with Issa, Balisarius, Jimmy and Arthelais. And I appreciate its focus on virtues.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Issa, Balisarius, Jimmy and Arthelais
No idea who any of these are except the robut.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Princess, tyrant, robot, main character
5 months ago
Anonymous
I have yet to make it all the way through Dunc for a second watch and I saw the whole thing in the theater. I've tried to rewatch it a couple of times and it just peters out towards the end and I end up turning it off.
I've already watched this movie twice since it came out and now have it playing again for the third time in the background.
Oh I see that's why all the characters were cardboard cutouts, it's only the first half of a movie. I forgot the first half of a movie is just filler, nothing happens in it.
Also Ed Skrien's cheekbones deserve their own credit in the movie. They are practically their own character. It's wild to look at and I'm not sure how they did it.
>Big bad evil empire dudes come in and are big and bad >we have to defeat the big bad evil guys >cut to the Mummy shock saying "I know a guy" >cut to the guy >guy instantly joins the characters in like two minutes
That's basically it, I like the visuals and the concept of it but it's executed poorly
>Go to a planet that looks like the set of Ridley Scott's Gladiator >So you can recruit a Gladiator >Who is played by the Black dude from Ridley Scott's Gladiator
Wtf was even the point of him being a gladiator? There was no fight, no freeing the gladiator. He could’ve just been sitting on the porch of a farm or drinking himself to death in a bar. It was literally pointless
5 months ago
Anonymous
Gotta wait for the Directors Cut I guess.
5 months ago
Anonymous
People despise having their time wasted. A director’s cut to a movie everyone hates will not be watched. First impressions are very important
5 months ago
Anonymous
Especially being the third time he's done this.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>A director’s cut to a movie everyone hates will not be watched
I will literally be buying the Director's Cut Special Edition box set when it comes out on BR. Just like I did with JL.
It looks like shit.
It's a deeply unoriginal hodgepodge of various films and anime Snyder saw scrambled together and duct taped with Warhammer 40k bits
The action sucks.
The script is woeful.
Large chunks of the movie are blatantly missing.
The entire movie is set up. Nothing happens except getting together characters who will likely never actually do anything because I doubt the second movie will ever be made
Imagine every movie you've ever seen where soldiers are introduced, flying along in some transport craft to where the shit is suppose to go down, and then it just ends
It's just all bad. The script is dogshit, the slo-mo in the action is gratuitously overdone, and the pacing is awkward. The story itself is absolute shlock, it's big standard good vs evil without any real context
The only good thing about it is some of the visual design
>le heckin diverse cast >strong wahman of color protagonist >White man bad >CGI slop overload >hack snyder directing >produced by goyflix
Then anons watch it and act surprised it’s bad
>Strong woman protagonist
Why is this the default for sci-fi now? I was watching Rebel Moon with the mates yesterday and I was blown away at how utterly masculine most of the framing and set-pieces were, but then you flip over to the protagonist and she's an utterly generic ethnic brown girl. All of the villains are white, even the gay rapist was a white pig (literal.) The only heroic white guy is the ethnic girl's love interest, and when I think about him I realize every interaction he has with the protagonist is what a woman would accuse old movies of doing with female characters. He just sits there to provide exposition while being vaguely useless but well-intentioned.
And that had me thinking about sci-fi in general. How Star Wars hasn't really had a new male protagonist since Andor and how the Mandalorian was so cautious about having a male protagonist that everyone around the protagonist had to be a hyper-competent woman. Men just don't really exist in sci-fi anymore unless they're villains or love interests. We've solved nothing as a culture except invert the genders so now women are the heroes and men the support, and yet somehow women still get to claim they're the underdogs.
Was it just me, or did Sofia seem like she was trying to stop her face from contorting into a disgusted look for 90% of the movie? It was very off-putting.
Sofia is solid in this. But there is a scene early in the movie where they close up on her face when she it telling the rapist soldiers to stop. And at that exact moment you can see her channeling her inner K-Stew. Seeing that I bet it came down to her and Sofia when Zack was contemplating who to cast for the lead.
kek, honestly thats pretty accurate. Her line deliveries were mostly decent, and she looked....fine in the action scenes, but her face looked like it was struggling to stay in the weird neutral space most of the time.
Also, starting to get the feeling that ACK has run out of ideas on how to film action scenes with firearms.
Watching the movie again right now and there is a shot where the camera zooms on in Charlie Hunnam's face. Its when he is standing in the doorway when they are all getting ready to leave the cantina after the shootout. It is EXACTLY the face Brad Pitt makes when he smirks in Snatch. The one that they show in all of the trailers and promo shots for Snatch.
Zack is an absolute madman.
5 months ago
Anonymous
We're gonna be discerning references/inspirations for years.
5 months ago
Anonymous
That shot referencing Snatch was Zack foreshadowing and flat out telling the audience that Charlie was going to double cross them.
The funniest thing is women don’t give a shit about any of this. They want to see Barbie and Taylor Swift in movie theaters. Zack is out of his fricking mind if he thinks Rebel Moon appeals to women
>The funniest thing is women don’t give a shit about any of this. They want to see Barbie and Taylor Swift in movie theaters. Zack is out of his fricking mind if he thinks Rebel Moon appeals to women
You would have a point if he was actually pandering to women. Like if he originally wanted the protagonist to be a strong male but changed it to a woman for pozzed woke points or political reasons.
But any true Snyderchad understands that this is exact the the movie he wanted to make with the main character he wanted to put in it. He's been doing sexy strong female leads since Sucker Punch.
>The only heroic white guy is the ethnic girl's love interest, and when I think about him I realize every interaction he has with the protagonist is what a woman would accuse old movies of doing with female characters. He just sits there to provide exposition while being vaguely useless but well-intentioned.
He also gets brutally cucked, she fricks the village hunter while he mopes around. Will be explicit in the Snydercut by the way.
Snyder is one of the masters of cinema, his talent is unappreciated by current day tasteless plebs, but future generations will hold him up as one of the greats.
Did you fall for the ironic meme about how great Snyder is? The snydercut was the biggest troll job in years, I thought only out of touch studio execs fell for it
I figured this halfway through that scene of her randomly talking to the robot in a saintly manner and crowning him with flowers, it came out of nowhere, given she in theory has never even seen a robot before if she's a peasant girl. Then they just started piling on more obvious "clues".
Possibly. Might be totally wrong though. Kora's hesitation when it comes to saving her from the rape suggests otherwise in fact. Age gap between princess actress and village girl actress is 6 years, I think, which isn't a disqualifier but makes it more complicated. And both actresses have relatively prominent moles on their faces but on different sides. So the parallels might merely be thematic and not suggestive of much more.
They played the same music theme in the flashback to the princess raising the bird, and had the girl touch the robot in a way it reacted to on some deep level, then it broke its pacifism routine specifically to save her.
>They played the same music theme in the flashback to the princess raising the bird, and had the girl touch the robot in a way it reacted to on some deep level, then it broke its pacifism routine specifically to save her. >theme
As I said, it might just be a thematic connection. This was after all what made Kora decide to follow the call to adventure, while what happened with the princess broke her and made her go into exile.
You are the frog letting the scorpion ride on his back. Zack Snyder has the subtly of a tunnel borer.
5 months ago
Anonymous
There are like a gajillion references in the movie. Some in plain sight and some a lot more subtle. Zack is beyond being pidgeon holed in one direction or the other. A lot of haters get hung up on the obvious ones. Acting like that's all there is. When there is ALWAYS more beneath the surface and behind the curtain.
5 months ago
Anonymous
There is absolutely nothing under the hood of any of his films. Nothing.
If you ever reply to me again I'll personally balance and rotate your jaw.
5 months ago
Anonymous
What did you say, little b***h?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>There are like a gajillion references in the movie.
I know, that's why I said he is as subtle as heavy machinery. He's Michael Bay with pretensions.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You're not educated. Critiquing culture isn't for you.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I agree, and still know Snyder sucks.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>I know, that's why I said he is as subtle as heavy machinery.
He is both and that's what the haters get wrong. He's both in your face AND subtle at the same time. Haters only point to the obvious things and completely ignore the rest to justify their seethe.
5 months ago
Anonymous
And he doesn't use quips, like those evil MCU films, right guys?
romantic interest being a manlet half-chink soldier who doesn't want her getting raped
She gonna get some of that Genghis dick! Asian male stereotypes btfo!
>next to no character interaction for anyone that isn't a village person
This might be my biggest gripe for the whole thing. If the sneedcut is paced similarly how long is it going to be? 3.5 hours? And then there's still a part 2 that assuming will get the same treatment?
>bad guys are the only interesting people but it's just 40k rip >action scenes all have dumb shit, people standing around waiting their turn to be killed like a video game >Dreadnought spaceship doesn't look big enough for a self sustained war machine >are we dealing with a single system here? Sure has a lot of habitable planets
>Snyder's supposed Sacred Tenets you must never question even if you despise his movies are Visuals and Action, if you do not pay homage to his Sacred Tenets you are a liar! >Rebel Moon looks ugly as sin and the action sucks
So what's the point of Snyder now?
It's a Synder fanfic nerd jerkoff that can't decide which setting it wants to be fanfic of.
As for the story itself: >bad guys show up, they look like commissars and techpriests from 40k accompanied by soldiers who are clearly imperial guard (FFS they are from the 'academy militarium') >Their big space empire is called 'The Imperium'. Fricking hell. >They want to steal our grain, it's A Fricking Bug's Life in the 40k universe. >oh shit we gotta stop them >cue montage assembling a ragtag team of misfits to take down the baddies. >Nothing original about any character in the entire film, yet film unloads entire backstories to these people in a horrendously condensed manner and we just don't fricking care and have been given no chance to develop any sort of attachment to a single damn one of them. >80% of the film assembling a team for a big battle at the remaining 20% at the end and even this just manages to be a cliche rip off of the cloud city betrayal in star wars and literally any other star was battle scene, you fricking pick. >Bad guy of course is brought back at the end for round two because why would Zack Snyder invent a new villain that could actually be interesting when he can continue rehashing every aspect of his shitty universe?
>It's a Synder fanfic nerd jerkoff that can't decide which setting it wants to be fanfic of.
Sounds like Army of the Dead, which tried to rope in like four different unfitting genres apparently meant to be picked up later in other movies because a movie can't be complete anymore, it has to be a puzzle piece.
He tried to sell it to Disney as a Star Wars film and they said no, so the blatant ripoffs are not a coincidence. I shut it off when I saw the asian b***h with the lightsabers-but-not-really-lightsabers.
I hated the movie up until that point, it was just the final straw. I actually shut it off a few minutes later during the pajeet bollywood-tier boss fight with the CGI-slop spider.
It's quite pozzed in terms of casting. The village to be saved is an Aryan allegory and the villain is a degenerate homosexual. Sexual degeneracy is equalled to evil all throughout the film. The revolutionaries are BLM activists but the pure force-wielding magical princess is as white as snow. Mixed bag.
I see you haven't seen much about the director's cut, which will feature the protagonist bang THREE different men during the timespan of the film, a few days.
On one hand, there'll be nothing to do for the three working days at office next week, so I'd like to be able to shitpost about this, on the other hand, I do assume I won't like it.
What should I do? I also have prepared for me The Hunt for the Red October for tonight.
Is this a reverse-harem show made for women?
I'm just an hour in the female protag has picked up:
Straight laced naive nice guy
Swashbuckling scumbag Han Solo guy
Sensitive passionate long hair guy
It's like a collection of penny dreadful romance novel stereotypes
>Is this a reverse-harem show made for women? >I'm just an hour in the female protag has picked up: >Straight laced naive nice guy >Swashbuckling scumbag Han Solo guy >Sensitive passionate long hair guy
>bad guys look cool and dress in snazzy uniforms >good guys look like mentally moronic homeless people
Never gonna care about "science" "fiction" until this is fixed, sorry.
I highly enjoyed it but it clearly needed a show format or be a 4 hour movie. Thankfully Part 2 is in April and we will presumably get development from the whole crew in it. If Part 2 were year(s) away I’d be less positive.
>Unlikable main characters >Aside from the robot (who is barely in the film) there is zero character development >Characters are introduced but serve no purpose in the movie >Majority of characters don't interact with each other outside of there introductions and have zero chemistry with each other >Cluncky exposition dialogue >Events just happen for plot convenience >Awful slo-mo over choreographed fight scenes >Villains are grossly incompetent
>zero character development
Excuse me, they took time to develop the spider monster a little before she died. They didn't do the same for the actual presumably long term character they were recruiting in the scene, but hey, can't develop EVERYONE.
>Pitch Star Wars movie >it's just seven samurai in space >star wars already did THREE seven samurai plots >get rejected >go to netflix >"this is my super duper great movie trillogy that will rival star wars" >first movie it's just the Seven Samurai in space >except it already exists and done better
The empire wants 10,000 bushels of wheat from a small village. That's literally it. That's the entire plot of the trilogy. Nothing was resolved at the end of the first movie.
And actually now that I think about it the plot is even worse than that. The empire offered to pay 3x market rate for the wheat surplus but the villagers lied to the empire. So now the empire is going to take more wheat but at the same 3x price which would make the village rich so they could buy more food from someone else. It is never explained why this is a bad deal or why the empire needs this particular wheat crop so bad.
I'd like to know why they go to the village when there is a big town where surely they would be able to buy the grain from several traders, or the governor or whatever would be able to hook them up.
Or why they don't buy it from a city on the planet or something, or bring supplies from a different planet. Why do they need wheat from this random village so badly?
exactly
there could be 1000 reasons for them to arrive directly there
it simply makes zero sense in-world
this would have been caught on a simple first draft review but hwood sucks
I think it's just because Snyder saw soldiers do this in a movie once and didn't understand why they were doing it during a war and not during peace time. He copies tropes without understanding what made them work in the first place. Same problem with most hollywood writers today.
5 months ago
Anonymous
frick this guy writes
I work in hwood and the amount of talentless homosexuals who write just how you described is so baffeling and moronic it hurts
I'm not a fan of writing an alternate movie and presenting it, but why didn't they come to demand the use of their village as a forward base for their operation and to be fed and housed for as long as they're there. Instead he wants all their wheat, once it's grown, which I guess he's just going to fly off with? While he searches that planet for rebel connections? I guess he's not in a rush if he's coming back in ten weeks, but he can't find a supply of wheat anywhere else than a shitty little village? But also leaves a garrison of his rapiest troops.
I had assumed it would be revealed in the conversation that he already knew someone from the village had sold wheat to the rebels and that was why there were really there, but no apparently he just picked that farming village to land at.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I am
I could do it in a lazy weekend
zach has zero business 'writing'
he should start by firing his dumb b***h enabling producer wife
the weird part was their arrival
it had an odd, poorly written thrust to it
mean spirited almost
zach literally can not write to save his life
he should stick to the cinematography
Probably because the ship just appears massively in the sky right above them but somehow no one noticed it coming, and only the protagonist notices the giant rumbling spaceship in the sky and has to ring the bell. Wouldn't it be more effective in selling her being ex-military to notice the signs of the spaceship dropping into orbit or something? Instead they finally notice when it's practically about to land.
The ship isn't nearly big enough to be an overwhelming death force. The flyby shots remind of Farscape, looks like shit. At least Farscape had a budget excuse.
you're shitting me. there's literally no way that a sci-fi trilogy that was promoted as being heckin star wars but for adults is about 1 village on some planet somewhere not giving the empire wheat. there has to be SOME OTHER SHIT going on here
If there is other shit going on they didn't bother to put it in the movie. It's just a plot about wheat and gathering soldiers to stop the empire from buying wheat at 3x the market rate. Empire even offered to give them free robots to harvest the wheat faster but the moronic villagers denied the request because they like working hard.
Would be nice if they gave the audience this info. As it stands the empire was being very decent and the villagers are a bunch of morons, liars, traitors, and buttholes.
See the thing is, this Part 1 and Part 2 is not the trilogy, it's just the first "movie". He proposed a trilogy, then had to split the first movie into two movies because it's so overstuffed...and will have longer cuts of both parts that are R rated. Are all the supposed entries in this would be saga gonna be multiple parts? I don't know.
They're also working on videogames, comics, novels, a TV show. Literally no one is going to buy any of that shit. This intro to the franchise offered nothing of interest.
He said this about Army of the Dead as well then went in on this Rebel Moon stuff. I think there was an anime of Army of the Dead. But no sign of any sequel at any time in the future despite all his talk.
>See the thing is, this Part 1 and Part 2 is not the trilogy, it's just the first "movie". He proposed a trilogy, then had to split the first movie into two movies because it's so overstuffed...and will have longer cuts of both parts that are R rated. Are all the supposed entries in this would be saga gonna be multiple parts? I don't know.
Imagine telling your audience in advance that you're only releasing a butchered, censored cut of the movie in advance and are cynically holding on to the real cut to generate artificial hype. Telling them this to their faces. A fricking marketing disaster.
Making "the REAL movie is 4 hours long and comes later, forget this one" your signature is not smart. He's done it three times now, and only one of them was legitimate (Justice League, on account of much of it being reshot by another director with another script).
I like the idea of a bunch of worldbuilding aspects, but like everything else Zack Snyder writes, it's otherwise complete fricking garbage. I cannot believe an entire generation of sexless nerds really gaslit themselves into believing that Snyder was ever a good director.
>the villain is dissappointing
Why does Snyder keep talking about how deep and interesting he is when he's just an irredeemably evil, mustache twirling prick who does everything for the lulz? I don't care if he's played by WHOLESOME ED SKREIN CHUNGUS he's a boring, worthless character.
That's what Snyder does. Talk at length about a bunch of shit that's never evident in any of his movies. Look at him talk about the band of warriors assembled. >>“They’re all misfits,” Snyder says. “They’re all healing and finding a place to belong. It’s a movie about finding a family.” In fact, the director, whose previous blockbusters include 300 and Man of Steel, continues by teasing a scene where Kora and her teammates look upon Veldt and agree that the moon is so beautiful that it’s worth dying on — or fighting hard enough to live upon. “That’s really at the heart of the movie in a lot of ways: Kora finding a place to call home, something that she wants to protect.”
Where the frick is any of that in the film? He always throws out these claims of depth and complexity but it never actually comes across in his movies, they're just crude simplistic narratives bumping around.
>There's so many details with these characters that you can miss if you don't look closely. >You see that necklace Brown Tarzan wears? >That's a griffin taming necklace from his honeworld! >If you paid attention you'd understand how he tames the griffin, because I hinted at it with the griffin necklace from his homeworld that he wears!
Is this guy mentally a toddler?
See, James Gunn could say this about GOTG and yes, I can see that, it is indeed about some misfits finding a family, the film revolves around it. Rebel Moon did not revolve around this. It did not even feature this in an accidental form. If Snyder had this intention, he failed to put it anywhere in the film he made.
It's had a third of its running length scooped out by Netflix shitters. You should have waited for the director's cut. How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?
this shit looks like synder tries to messily smash together star wars and warhammer into a shitty mess.
looks more and more like Snyder is an idiot and bad director and 300 was just his lightning in a bottle moment
300 sucks ass too, Dawn of the Dead was his only good movie. But yeah the whole time I was trying not to go make comparisons between Star Wars and 40k but it was basically impossible not to do so every single scene
One of the worst movies I've seen and shows all the limitations of these capeshit directors.
Snyder put in all his worst stuff, skinny women, girl boss, slow motion, bad choreography, fight scenes where the stunt waits to be hit, predictable plot with generic Star Wars and Foundation elements, at first it looked like a movie inspired by Metal Hurlant but after 15 minutes, I saw that Snyder went with a PG13 version without sexy women, blood or any hint of sex, like a generic MCU universe that no one wants now.
I thought that outside of Star Wars, Snyder was going to bring a bad ass female character, a Darth Talon, sexy, with that sexy costume that
Kathleen Kennedy censored in the last Star Wars movies but no, he came up with that same universe where everyone dresses like farmers, how can people be so stupid as to invest their money in this?
I will say it wasn't boring to the point where you finger hovers over the back button. First action scene will leave you thinking this is dumb, I carried on and just found more dumb. It could be worse I guess. It's incredibly average at a time where sci-fi chads really needed some hopium.
If you liked those you have a double digit IQ and might enjoy the flashing lights and colors. But if you expect a plot like those movies had, this one doesn't have one. It jumps from planet to planet and keeps introducing shallow characters with little to no character development who have nothing to do with anything or than agreeing to fight for money because some farmers don't want to sell wheat.
>If you liked those you have a double digit IQ
I bet I earn way more than you do. I bet you're a five figure b***h living in some shithole flyover state.
Prove me wrong.
(he cant)
Yup, you're a cringe little low income b***h. And you're on here telling people they have 2 digit IQs for liking a movie.
Do you know that you'll always be trash? Might as well have a nice day. Not like anyone will miss a loser like you.
The acting was so stilted I was so confused how a mainstream director can produce schlock this badly made.
Gave me a real 40k vibe though so I thought it has a lot of potential. We actually need some better sci fi so I'm cautiously hopeful for its future. If it does well enough maybe we can get some better fare.
That wasn't a film that really featured "acting", just shouting in front of a greenscreen. Which was about what was required. Now he makes films featuring furrowed brows and monotone murmuring in front of a greenscreen.
It's had a third of its running length scooped out by Netflix shitters. You should have waited for the director's cut. How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?
>You should have waited for the director's cut.
This is such bullshit though. >Unintentionally disastrous production issues from previous Snyder films resulted in an organic "Snydercut" meme >Decide to forcibly replicate that meme by making the production disastrous on purpose >The franchise equivalent of a forced meme with hundreds of millions of dollars on the line
They just don't get it.
>I'm super proud of the PG-13 version, the broader audience version, because I would say it really satisfies an awesome, timeless, mythological scope. What we’ve done with the other version is fun and subversive because an R-rated sci-fi movie at this scale shouldn’t exist. It's a full hour longer. It's not just slightly different or a little bit more. There are big chunks of the movie that are different. >"[I] had really wanted to keep the movie close to two hours. That was like a thing I really wanted to do. I just felt like these two movies together, if they're both about two hours each, and I think movie two is even shorter, it's like an hour and 54 minutes — it's like, I think, one of the first movies I've made that’s under two hours, which is incredible — that was the sort of thing I had in my mind was that I really wanted to keep it close to two hours. So Dody [Dorn] and I, he's an amazing editor, it was really the exercise of like, “Okay, what's the leanest line through the movie?” And that was the game we played with ourselves – only good shots, the best, cleanest line. That was the way that we went about finding what stuck. What stayed in the juggernaut of the movie is what we were looking for, and that was really how we did it. >Netflix were the ones that came up with the idea for the director’s cut. And I was like, ‘Absolutely perfect!’ It gives me the ability to work on the PG-13 version not in opposition to the studio, but in coordination with them, because I know I always have the director’s cut [too]. So as I make cuts and adjust this movie down so that it’s PG-13 and two hours, I don’t feel like I’m being pushed into it. Whereas my relationship with the studios in the past has always been that the version that’s released theatrically – for me, anyway – is always a little bit of a fight.
That's Snyder's words. This was not some shock thrust upon him at the last minute. He knew from the start he was making a PG13 and an R rated version.
>But yeah need more exposition on why Charlie is leading them on a recruitment journey.
Because he's an unrepentant white man bad traitor. What a fricking waste.
>Its like Snyder thinks we haven't seen this movie before
he'd be right though yet he fails to deliver on the premise of the films he borrows from while adding nothing new
Snyder is the sort who believes he is the first person to ever have whatever thought he just had, while also being the sort who considers recreation of imagery the same as depth. Yes these contradict each other. Thus, Rebel Moon.
his films looks great
it's the writing that let's it down
simp
5 months ago
Anonymous
Do they?
5 months ago
Anonymous
yes
stick to shooting on Zeen lenses you fricking wanna be
5 months ago
Anonymous
What looks good about that?
5 months ago
Anonymous
nothing, which is my point
5 months ago
Anonymous
You just claimed his films look great.
5 months ago
Anonymous
it does
the inverse visual style is to shoot overly sharp at 5.6 the entire time on xeen lenses like the film school try hard simp that you are
homosexual
5 months ago
Anonymous
So he made his film look like shit in order to make it look sarcastically great?
5 months ago
Anonymous
every frame a painting
5 months ago
Anonymous
If you like shitty looking greenscreens and obnoxious digital color grading.
so, netflix deliberately is trying to pull some "snyder cut" pajeet hype wave maneuver right? trying to get people excited for the "good" version of something they deliberately released bad? because it's as obvious as it is pathetic and doomed to fail.
>so, netflix deliberately is trying to pull some "snyder cut" pajeet hype wave maneuver right? trying to get people excited for the "good" version of something they deliberately released bad? because it's as obvious as it is pathetic and doomed to fail.
Yeah, forcing the meme this time instead of the meme arising on its own from outside factors. Fricking soulless.
[on Star Wars' Empire and his Motherworld] >Yes, it's influenced sort of iconographically in some ways. We have space fascists, they have space fascists, but I was kind of into that relationship because I like the comment. I think that's one thing that you'll see in the director's cut that is different from the PG-13 version is the irony of a super hard R-rated sci-fi movie at this scale is cleaner in the R-rated version. In the PG-13, we push. It's a hard PG-13. We push them to the ragged edge.
The scene where the rebel leader black guy was running up the crane arm in slow motion was so fricking funny, he was barely moving his legs and super exaggerated his arm movements. It looked like a youtuber fake running in front of a greenscreen
Filtered
Not gonna watch it. Shit im not watching any Snyder movie after Army of the dead. That shit was abysmal, only good memory of that movie is me losing my shit laughing over The Cranberries ZOMBIE playing at the end. Dont know why he have so many followers tbh
>Dont know why he have so many followers
his cult like following is so fricking bizarre
Originally it was contrarianism directly related to the rise of the MCU during the 2010s, and then it became contrarianism over the backlash Snyder received, now it's just...supporting Snyder because that's what you've been doing for years now, they don't even remember the why. They occasionally vomit out some bullshit vague reasons mostly related to attacking the MCU and not actually extolling any virtues of Snyder's films. The point is, it's a fanbase fundamentally founded on console warring, which is the worst possible foundation you can have for a fanbase.
>Dont know why he have so many followers tbh
They're mostly pajeets and people who hated the MCU back in the day and wanted to be contrarian by enjoying the DCEU
That's what it boils down to really.
>literally every thread about it was shitting on it and whining about the director
>this somehow duped you into watching it
This is either shitty bait to make YET ANOTHER thread whining about Snyder in addition to the 12 we already have or you're a fricking moron
If you haven't figured out and to expect everything that comes out is shit, then you deserve it.
Spoil it for me
WHat happened in it thats so bad?
There is nothing good in it. That's pretty much it, just another typical Snyder movie.
Literally all around bad. The only good part are the visuals, but that's due to a bloated budget.
the only 'comedic' moment was when the robot is pushed into some cgi horseshit and it gets all over his face. moments before this happens the cgi horse is showing shitting.
Didney zoomer. “WHERE ARE MY QUIPS!!! I NEED ALIENS FARTING!!”
>Disney strawman
Opinions discarded an buried.
It’s not a comedy moron.
It's also not interesting.
this
it had all the potential and delivered on NONE of it
charlie hunnam was the only thing worth watching
Nothing happened besides 2 characters building a team, introducing members of the team, then they barely interact with each other then land at the final battle at the end. There is little to no character interaction, it’s all just set up for a second part or a big directors cut with actual character moments
It's Mass Effect 2: The Movie
>It's Mass Effect 2: The Movie
I have it playing again for the third time this time in the background and I was thinking exactly that. This version is just focusing on the backstory of the main character and the extended cut will show background on the party members.
I don't get why people are crying about there not being much character interactions yet. It literally says Part 1 in the title. Dumb morons.
Because that's how movies work. They just leave out the compelling parts and demand you return for them at a later date.
That's how a series works, which this practically is. Dunc got banger reviews despite being even more guilty of that, so I don't see why Rebel Moon should get shat on over it.
It's not a series. It's a movie.
It's a movie series. And there was meat there already with Issa, Balisarius, Jimmy and Arthelais. And I appreciate its focus on virtues.
>Issa, Balisarius, Jimmy and Arthelais
No idea who any of these are except the robut.
Princess, tyrant, robot, main character
I have yet to make it all the way through Dunc for a second watch and I saw the whole thing in the theater. I've tried to rewatch it a couple of times and it just peters out towards the end and I end up turning it off.
I've already watched this movie twice since it came out and now have it playing again for the third time in the background.
Oh I see that's why all the characters were cardboard cutouts, it's only the first half of a movie. I forgot the first half of a movie is just filler, nothing happens in it.
Also Ed Skrien's cheekbones deserve their own credit in the movie. They are practically their own character. It's wild to look at and I'm not sure how they did it.
I mean if you’re going to split your movie in two you really need to give me a compelling reason to want to see the rest of it in 4 months
Isn't the first half or part 1 supposed to be all character interactions and then the second half is all action?
Holy shit, you are 100% right, nice one dude!
>Big bad evil empire dudes come in and are big and bad
>we have to defeat the big bad evil guys
>cut to the Mummy shock saying "I know a guy"
>cut to the guy
>guy instantly joins the characters in like two minutes
That's basically it, I like the visuals and the concept of it but it's executed poorly
>Go to a planet that looks like the set of Ridley Scott's Gladiator
>So you can recruit a Gladiator
>Who is played by the Black dude from Ridley Scott's Gladiator
I fricking hate how djimon got so wasted in this movie
He’s a brilliant general who literally has 3 lines and none of them being an order
>don't call me general
Wtf was even the point of him being a gladiator? There was no fight, no freeing the gladiator. He could’ve just been sitting on the porch of a farm or drinking himself to death in a bar. It was literally pointless
Gotta wait for the Directors Cut I guess.
People despise having their time wasted. A director’s cut to a movie everyone hates will not be watched. First impressions are very important
Especially being the third time he's done this.
>A director’s cut to a movie everyone hates will not be watched
I will literally be buying the Director's Cut Special Edition box set when it comes out on BR. Just like I did with JL.
Like in every single movie since Blood Diamond. He's a good actor but he never gets used beyond a side character or a henchmen.
He probably saw the movie.
Nothing
Nothing fricking happens
It looks like shit.
It's a deeply unoriginal hodgepodge of various films and anime Snyder saw scrambled together and duct taped with Warhammer 40k bits
The action sucks.
The script is woeful.
Large chunks of the movie are blatantly missing.
I watched the first 30 minutes and nothing bad happened, it was fine. Will watch the rest later, but I guess it's just Cinemaphile overreacting.
>best effort the shillsquats can muster
fkn kek.
Imagine 40k was created by JK Rowling and Disney bought the rights for it and planned a movie trilogy.
>and Disney bought the rights
Nah. This one hundred percent would not pass Disney muster. Not nearly enough virtue signalling. Not..even...close.
The entire movie is set up. Nothing happens except getting together characters who will likely never actually do anything because I doubt the second movie will ever be made
Imagine every movie you've ever seen where soldiers are introduced, flying along in some transport craft to where the shit is suppose to go down, and then it just ends
>I doubt the second movie will ever be made
Its coming out in April
Sure it is
moron
It's just all bad. The script is dogshit, the slo-mo in the action is gratuitously overdone, and the pacing is awkward. The story itself is absolute shlock, it's big standard good vs evil without any real context
The only good thing about it is some of the visual design
Every white man is evil or stupid
>le heckin diverse cast
>strong wahman of color protagonist
>White man bad
>CGI slop overload
>hack snyder directing
>produced by goyflix
Then anons watch it and act surprised it’s bad
>Strong woman protagonist
Why is this the default for sci-fi now? I was watching Rebel Moon with the mates yesterday and I was blown away at how utterly masculine most of the framing and set-pieces were, but then you flip over to the protagonist and she's an utterly generic ethnic brown girl. All of the villains are white, even the gay rapist was a white pig (literal.) The only heroic white guy is the ethnic girl's love interest, and when I think about him I realize every interaction he has with the protagonist is what a woman would accuse old movies of doing with female characters. He just sits there to provide exposition while being vaguely useless but well-intentioned.
And that had me thinking about sci-fi in general. How Star Wars hasn't really had a new male protagonist since Andor and how the Mandalorian was so cautious about having a male protagonist that everyone around the protagonist had to be a hyper-competent woman. Men just don't really exist in sci-fi anymore unless they're villains or love interests. We've solved nothing as a culture except invert the genders so now women are the heroes and men the support, and yet somehow women still get to claim they're the underdogs.
It's all so tiresome.
Was it just me, or did Sofia seem like she was trying to stop her face from contorting into a disgusted look for 90% of the movie? It was very off-putting.
Sofia is solid in this. But there is a scene early in the movie where they close up on her face when she it telling the rapist soldiers to stop. And at that exact moment you can see her channeling her inner K-Stew. Seeing that I bet it came down to her and Sofia when Zack was contemplating who to cast for the lead.
kek, honestly thats pretty accurate. Her line deliveries were mostly decent, and she looked....fine in the action scenes, but her face looked like it was struggling to stay in the weird neutral space most of the time.
Also, starting to get the feeling that ACK has run out of ideas on how to film action scenes with firearms.
Watching the movie again right now and there is a shot where the camera zooms on in Charlie Hunnam's face. Its when he is standing in the doorway when they are all getting ready to leave the cantina after the shootout. It is EXACTLY the face Brad Pitt makes when he smirks in Snatch. The one that they show in all of the trailers and promo shots for Snatch.
Zack is an absolute madman.
We're gonna be discerning references/inspirations for years.
That shot referencing Snatch was Zack foreshadowing and flat out telling the audience that Charlie was going to double cross them.
>Sofia is solid in this.
She's really not, it's your dick saying that.
she's not appealing at all in this
just a dirty brown mess
F i l t e r e d
breasts looked nice
what breasts
She has pleasant B cups, I've seen them.
The funniest thing is women don’t give a shit about any of this. They want to see Barbie and Taylor Swift in movie theaters. Zack is out of his fricking mind if he thinks Rebel Moon appeals to women
>The funniest thing is women don’t give a shit about any of this. They want to see Barbie and Taylor Swift in movie theaters. Zack is out of his fricking mind if he thinks Rebel Moon appeals to women
You would have a point if he was actually pandering to women. Like if he originally wanted the protagonist to be a strong male but changed it to a woman for pozzed woke points or political reasons.
But any true Snyderchad understands that this is exact the the movie he wanted to make with the main character he wanted to put in it. He's been doing sexy strong female leads since Sucker Punch.
>everyone around the protagonist had to be a hyper-competent woman.
Look at what they have done to my Anons. They have completely mindbroken them.
>The only heroic white guy is the ethnic girl's love interest, and when I think about him I realize every interaction he has with the protagonist is what a woman would accuse old movies of doing with female characters. He just sits there to provide exposition while being vaguely useless but well-intentioned.
He also gets brutally cucked, she fricks the village hunter while he mopes around. Will be explicit in the Snydercut by the way.
Female main characters are just not for me. Adapt Red Rising instead already.
I'd like to give it a chance, but there's just too much diversity/goyslop for me.
>be Zack Snyder
>never make a good movie
>be this moronic anon
>oh how was i tricked into thinking this would be good
It was pretty obvious anon
300 was good
Snyder is one of the masters of cinema, his talent is unappreciated by current day tasteless plebs, but future generations will hold him up as one of the greats.
I forgot to add: India superpower by 2025.
Did you fall for the ironic meme about how great Snyder is? The snydercut was the biggest troll job in years, I thought only out of touch studio execs fell for it
I'm gonna watch it out of morbid curiosity but I'm torrenting it even though I have Netflix
It is over. Rebel Moon is the number 1 Netflix movie throughout the world.
>World, U.S.
moronic newbie doesn't even know how to greentext properly lmao
>the number 1 Netflix movie
No wonder.
/tv is wrong again, many such cases
Germans at least liked the raunchy cooomedy
Only anglos could have produced something like Snyder.
Pleb
Sir good morning you have been filtered sir.
>watches the commercial cut instead of waiting for his picasso director's cut
lmao imagine being this moronic, I bet you watched Napoleon too because you felt the urge to instant consoom instead of just waiting for the dc
I just don't watch any of those on Netflix.
Frick Netflix and frick Snyder for making one movie shit on purpose so people have to watch it two times.
Lets be real, the directors cut is gonna be double the runtime and just 10% less shit
What was her fricking problem?
it's the princess
It's extremely obviously the princess who was not actually killed.
Holy frick. I'm a pure blood Snyderchad and I'm actually ashamed at myself for missing that. The clues were right fricking there and I missed it.
I figured this halfway through that scene of her randomly talking to the robot in a saintly manner and crowning him with flowers, it came out of nowhere, given she in theory has never even seen a robot before if she's a peasant girl. Then they just started piling on more obvious "clues".
How are you that dumb?
I will be my secret shame. :/
Possibly. Might be totally wrong though. Kora's hesitation when it comes to saving her from the rape suggests otherwise in fact. Age gap between princess actress and village girl actress is 6 years, I think, which isn't a disqualifier but makes it more complicated. And both actresses have relatively prominent moles on their faces but on different sides. So the parallels might merely be thematic and not suggestive of much more.
They played the same music theme in the flashback to the princess raising the bird, and had the girl touch the robot in a way it reacted to on some deep level, then it broke its pacifism routine specifically to save her.
Also, why was the robot not the main character?
>They played the same music theme in the flashback to the princess raising the bird, and had the girl touch the robot in a way it reacted to on some deep level, then it broke its pacifism routine specifically to save her.
>theme
As I said, it might just be a thematic connection. This was after all what made Kora decide to follow the call to adventure, while what happened with the princess broke her and made her go into exile.
You are the frog letting the scorpion ride on his back. Zack Snyder has the subtly of a tunnel borer.
There are like a gajillion references in the movie. Some in plain sight and some a lot more subtle. Zack is beyond being pidgeon holed in one direction or the other. A lot of haters get hung up on the obvious ones. Acting like that's all there is. When there is ALWAYS more beneath the surface and behind the curtain.
There is absolutely nothing under the hood of any of his films. Nothing.
t. pleb
https://thesymbolicworld.com/content/the-symbolic-structure-of-movies-batman-v-superman-2016-part-i
https://thesymbolicworld.com/content/the-symbolic-structure-of-movies-batman-v-superman-2016-part-ii
If you ever reply to me again I'll personally balance and rotate your jaw.
What did you say, little b***h?
>There are like a gajillion references in the movie.
I know, that's why I said he is as subtle as heavy machinery. He's Michael Bay with pretensions.
You're not educated. Critiquing culture isn't for you.
I agree, and still know Snyder sucks.
>I know, that's why I said he is as subtle as heavy machinery.
He is both and that's what the haters get wrong. He's both in your face AND subtle at the same time. Haters only point to the obvious things and completely ignore the rest to justify their seethe.
And he doesn't use quips, like those evil MCU films, right guys?
>Also, why was the robot not the main character?
Princess Irulan in Dune 84'
>princess romantic interest being a manlet half-chink soldier who doesn't want her getting raped
oh nononono
romantic interest being a manlet half-chink soldier who doesn't want her getting raped
She gonna get some of that Genghis dick! Asian male stereotypes btfo!
Best Snyder by far
yet worst RT rating and worst Cinemaphile reception
>FILTERED: The Movie
Good morning sir.
>snyder movie... le bad??
/tv/jeets are not gonna like this one
the paint collages are still being created. please do not judge the movie yet.
If Justice League Snyder cut is a 4/10 then is a 10/10
>next to no character interaction for anyone that isn't a village person
This might be my biggest gripe for the whole thing. If the sneedcut is paced similarly how long is it going to be? 3.5 hours? And then there's still a part 2 that assuming will get the same treatment?
ripping off better movies doesn't work when everyone has already seen the better movies
Is that Jonah Hill on the poster?
No it's an Asian with Not-Lightsabers.
>bad guys are the only interesting people but it's just 40k rip
>action scenes all have dumb shit, people standing around waiting their turn to be killed like a video game
>Dreadnought spaceship doesn't look big enough for a self sustained war machine
>are we dealing with a single system here? Sure has a lot of habitable planets
Can’t wait for GW to sue the shit out of Netflix
Pretty sure they call it the Imperium at one point also
>t. Op again LARPING like he didn't go in already hating it.
>Snyder's supposed Sacred Tenets you must never question even if you despise his movies are Visuals and Action, if you do not pay homage to his Sacred Tenets you are a liar!
>Rebel Moon looks ugly as sin and the action sucks
So what's the point of Snyder now?
I'm still kinda confused by this scene, Are they supposed to kiss? or are Actors having gay sex in rl?
>worst movie I have ever seen in my life
You're definitely not an attention starved little liar, are you?
>duping me into watching this piece of shit
Why does Cinemaphile always do this?
It's a Synder fanfic nerd jerkoff that can't decide which setting it wants to be fanfic of.
As for the story itself:
>bad guys show up, they look like commissars and techpriests from 40k accompanied by soldiers who are clearly imperial guard (FFS they are from the 'academy militarium')
>Their big space empire is called 'The Imperium'. Fricking hell.
>They want to steal our grain, it's A Fricking Bug's Life in the 40k universe.
>oh shit we gotta stop them
>cue montage assembling a ragtag team of misfits to take down the baddies.
>Nothing original about any character in the entire film, yet film unloads entire backstories to these people in a horrendously condensed manner and we just don't fricking care and have been given no chance to develop any sort of attachment to a single damn one of them.
>80% of the film assembling a team for a big battle at the remaining 20% at the end and even this just manages to be a cliche rip off of the cloud city betrayal in star wars and literally any other star was battle scene, you fricking pick.
>Bad guy of course is brought back at the end for round two because why would Zack Snyder invent a new villain that could actually be interesting when he can continue rehashing every aspect of his shitty universe?
>It's a Synder fanfic nerd jerkoff that can't decide which setting it wants to be fanfic of.
Sounds like Army of the Dead, which tried to rope in like four different unfitting genres apparently meant to be picked up later in other movies because a movie can't be complete anymore, it has to be a puzzle piece.
He tried to sell it to Disney as a Star Wars film and they said no, so the blatant ripoffs are not a coincidence. I shut it off when I saw the asian b***h with the lightsabers-but-not-really-lightsabers.
>I shut it off when I saw the asian b***h with the lightsabers-but-not-really-lightsabers.
Are you a woman? Are you on your period?
I hated the movie up until that point, it was just the final straw. I actually shut it off a few minutes later during the pajeet bollywood-tier boss fight with the CGI-slop spider.
>street shitter obsession
Are you brown?
>*slow mos behind you*
snydergay go home
Kek. Get off my board, third worlders.
Are you seething? It's okay to like a movie no one else likes, you know?
Amazing defense of this crap film you're mounting.
Okay but you are brown aren't you.
The giftcards and Netflix subscriptions aren't payment enough to defend this glorified student project, it seems.
They all got redeemed.
>I shut it off when I saw the asian b***h with the lightsabers-but-not-really-lightsabers.
But that was one of the only good parts of the movie.
You should go back to Pleddit.
what s a matter sweaty, did you not feel represented enough?
I enjoyed it. I'm sorry that your whole personality is based on shitposting on Cinemaphile trying to parrot what other morons tell you to think.
Just finished it. It was alright. It had way too many slow mo scenes.
>Fans of [person I dislike] are like a CULT dude!
how pozzed is it?
You already know. Trust your instincts Grug.
The cast is 90% white and there are no gays in it unless you count the deformed pig man that wanted to rape the co-lead for a price.
>The cast is 90% white
The MCs are fricking 90% POC, moron.
You don’t count NPC extras with no dialog or screen time as part of the cast.
>You don’t count NPC extras
Last week you were complaining that there were two black guys walking past the corner of the screen in the backgroud. Get your shit straight.
It's quite pozzed in terms of casting. The village to be saved is an Aryan allegory and the villain is a degenerate homosexual. Sexual degeneracy is equalled to evil all throughout the film. The revolutionaries are BLM activists but the pure force-wielding magical princess is as white as snow. Mixed bag.
>Sexual degeneracy is equalled to evil all throughout the film.
>pozzed
wat?
I see you haven't seen much about the director's cut, which will feature the protagonist bang THREE different men during the timespan of the film, a few days.
Pozzed level off the scales. Probably the most pozzed SW shit yet, and that’s saying a lot.
Frick you b***h sir,
On one hand, there'll be nothing to do for the three working days at office next week, so I'd like to be able to shitpost about this, on the other hand, I do assume I won't like it.
What should I do? I also have prepared for me The Hunt for the Red October for tonight.
>another seething Yidsney troony
It’s a beautiful thing to watch the endless kvetching
Its like the Force Awakens if it had more rape in it. Its shit.
That actually sounds based what the frick are you on man.
I've already seen A New Hope. Didn't need to see it released a third time.
Is this a reverse-harem show made for women?
I'm just an hour in the female protag has picked up:
Straight laced naive nice guy
Swashbuckling scumbag Han Solo guy
Sensitive passionate long hair guy
It's like a collection of penny dreadful romance novel stereotypes
>Is this a reverse-harem show made for women?
>I'm just an hour in the female protag has picked up:
>Straight laced naive nice guy
>Swashbuckling scumbag Han Solo guy
>Sensitive passionate long hair guy
The porn parody gangbang will be epic.
Can all three of them be played by Fabio in different wigs?
>bad guys look cool and dress in snazzy uniforms
>good guys look like mentally moronic homeless people
Never gonna care about "science" "fiction" until this is fixed, sorry.
Also fighting an armed rebellion, don't really see why they le evil. Same problem as The Empire has.
>The Empire are the good guys
This meme again?
Not good but, they are a force of stability. I hate our government but wouldn't want them to disappear overnight.
I liked it better when it was called a bugs life.
ALL THE WHITE GUYS ARE EVIL (or cuckks)
ALL THE POCs ARE HEROES
This super racist anti-white social engineering is now being pushed in every movie and show. How do they get away with it?
It has a white woman and a pitbull in it
10/10
That's not a pitbull.
>Mom, I want Warhammer 40K
>We have Warhammer 40K at home
>The Warhammer 40K at home
He's a supernatural genius. You just didn't get it because you have a small brain. Pleb.
>When the most unrealistic thing in your movie is believing a 98 pound woman can easily beat up fully grown men
She's 5'4 as well lmfao
Mediocre sf movie, nothing to fawn about but nothing to hate either
thanks for posting that pic. I can now discredit your opinion based on your bad taste.
I highly enjoyed it but it clearly needed a show format or be a 4 hour movie. Thankfully Part 2 is in April and we will presumably get development from the whole crew in it. If Part 2 were year(s) away I’d be less positive.
>What do you do, farmer girl?
>I rebel
Closed vlc and removed this movie from utorrent straight away.
>Watching Snyder shit
>Expecting it to be good
I've concluded that Snyder is not a particularly intelligent person.
Did he write it too? The action scenes are the dumbest shit I've seen in a while. Who would be responsible for that?
yes
he should stick to lensing his own films but the rest should be delegated to a good writer
aka me
call me zach
He wrote it, produced it, directed it and served as cinematographer
I told my 'friend' the same thing, after he forced me to watch Sucker Punch, claiming it was the best film he ever saw.
I got it on bluray when released lmao. Sweet Pea is my favourite.
>Unlikable main characters
>Aside from the robot (who is barely in the film) there is zero character development
>Characters are introduced but serve no purpose in the movie
>Majority of characters don't interact with each other outside of there introductions and have zero chemistry with each other
>Cluncky exposition dialogue
>Events just happen for plot convenience
>Awful slo-mo over choreographed fight scenes
>Villains are grossly incompetent
>zero character development
Excuse me, they took time to develop the spider monster a little before she died. They didn't do the same for the actual presumably long term character they were recruiting in the scene, but hey, can't develop EVERYONE.
>can't develop EVERYONE.
yet 90 minute films manage to do it all the time
im being genuine
you're just used to being a mean spirit ironic homosexual all the time
The detector isn't for your post, you idiot.
then don't @ me b***h
You failed to detect really obvious sarcasm
you come across as offputting not clever or sarcastic moron
try again
>Pitch Star Wars movie
>it's just seven samurai in space
>star wars already did THREE seven samurai plots
>get rejected
>go to netflix
>"this is my super duper great movie trillogy that will rival star wars"
>first movie it's just the Seven Samurai in space
>except it already exists and done better
>...
>Gets rejected
>But it's women of color samurais in space
>Accepted
>that disgusting homosexual alien out of nowhere
Never allow Zack Snyder to ever make a movie again.
Hit a little too close to home there buddy?
so since it's a trilogy, what's the overarching plot / threat? is it literally just rebels vs the empire?
The empire wants 10,000 bushels of wheat from a small village. That's literally it. That's the entire plot of the trilogy. Nothing was resolved at the end of the first movie.
And actually now that I think about it the plot is even worse than that. The empire offered to pay 3x market rate for the wheat surplus but the villagers lied to the empire. So now the empire is going to take more wheat but at the same 3x price which would make the village rich so they could buy more food from someone else. It is never explained why this is a bad deal or why the empire needs this particular wheat crop so bad.
I'd like to know why they go to the village when there is a big town where surely they would be able to buy the grain from several traders, or the governor or whatever would be able to hook them up.
You'd think an empire would have a functional trade system. It's not like this was a war band in the middle of a war trying to secure food nearby.
exactly
they go to bum frick nowhere to swing dick when it's clearly moronic as frick
1000 ways to write it to make sense, he simply CANT
Or why they don't buy it from a city on the planet or something, or bring supplies from a different planet. Why do they need wheat from this random village so badly?
And also they have time enough to wait around for 9 weeks when the harvest is ready. It makes zero sense.
>n-no 1-10 w-weeks pls sir
shits mad gay and bad
exactly
there could be 1000 reasons for them to arrive directly there
it simply makes zero sense in-world
this would have been caught on a simple first draft review but hwood sucks
I think it's just because Snyder saw soldiers do this in a movie once and didn't understand why they were doing it during a war and not during peace time. He copies tropes without understanding what made them work in the first place. Same problem with most hollywood writers today.
frick this guy writes
I work in hwood and the amount of talentless homosexuals who write just how you described is so baffeling and moronic it hurts
I'm not a fan of writing an alternate movie and presenting it, but why didn't they come to demand the use of their village as a forward base for their operation and to be fed and housed for as long as they're there. Instead he wants all their wheat, once it's grown, which I guess he's just going to fly off with? While he searches that planet for rebel connections? I guess he's not in a rush if he's coming back in ten weeks, but he can't find a supply of wheat anywhere else than a shitty little village? But also leaves a garrison of his rapiest troops.
I had assumed it would be revealed in the conversation that he already knew someone from the village had sold wheat to the rebels and that was why there were really there, but no apparently he just picked that farming village to land at.
I am
I could do it in a lazy weekend
zach has zero business 'writing'
he should start by firing his dumb b***h enabling producer wife
the weird part was their arrival
it had an odd, poorly written thrust to it
mean spirited almost
zach literally can not write to save his life
he should stick to the cinematography
Probably because the ship just appears massively in the sky right above them but somehow no one noticed it coming, and only the protagonist notices the giant rumbling spaceship in the sky and has to ring the bell. Wouldn't it be more effective in selling her being ex-military to notice the signs of the spaceship dropping into orbit or something? Instead they finally notice when it's practically about to land.
The ship isn't nearly big enough to be an overwhelming death force. The flyby shots remind of Farscape, looks like shit. At least Farscape had a budget excuse.
you're shitting me. there's literally no way that a sci-fi trilogy that was promoted as being heckin star wars but for adults is about 1 village on some planet somewhere not giving the empire wheat. there has to be SOME OTHER SHIT going on here
If there is other shit going on they didn't bother to put it in the movie. It's just a plot about wheat and gathering soldiers to stop the empire from buying wheat at 3x the market rate. Empire even offered to give them free robots to harvest the wheat faster but the moronic villagers denied the request because they like working hard.
In fairness I think the 3x price was a ruse, and if not, the offer was off the table after smashing the guys head open.
Would be nice if they gave the audience this info. As it stands the empire was being very decent and the villagers are a bunch of morons, liars, traitors, and buttholes.
See the thing is, this Part 1 and Part 2 is not the trilogy, it's just the first "movie". He proposed a trilogy, then had to split the first movie into two movies because it's so overstuffed...and will have longer cuts of both parts that are R rated. Are all the supposed entries in this would be saga gonna be multiple parts? I don't know.
Maybe he should learn to edit.
They're also working on videogames, comics, novels, a TV show. Literally no one is going to buy any of that shit. This intro to the franchise offered nothing of interest.
He said this about Army of the Dead as well then went in on this Rebel Moon stuff. I think there was an anime of Army of the Dead. But no sign of any sequel at any time in the future despite all his talk.
the first 15 minutes were a fat dud
I can't fathom how a producer didn't step in at the concept stage and shut down this terrible writing
>See the thing is, this Part 1 and Part 2 is not the trilogy, it's just the first "movie". He proposed a trilogy, then had to split the first movie into two movies because it's so overstuffed...and will have longer cuts of both parts that are R rated. Are all the supposed entries in this would be saga gonna be multiple parts? I don't know.
Imagine telling your audience in advance that you're only releasing a butchered, censored cut of the movie in advance and are cynically holding on to the real cut to generate artificial hype. Telling them this to their faces. A fricking marketing disaster.
Making "the REAL movie is 4 hours long and comes later, forget this one" your signature is not smart. He's done it three times now, and only one of them was legitimate (Justice League, on account of much of it being reshot by another director with another script).
I like the idea of a bunch of worldbuilding aspects, but like everything else Zack Snyder writes, it's otherwise complete fricking garbage. I cannot believe an entire generation of sexless nerds really gaslit themselves into believing that Snyder was ever a good director.
I just watched this movie.
The world and design is interesting but story is very boring and generic.
the villain is dissappointing
also too many references to other movies
>the villain is dissappointing
Why does Snyder keep talking about how deep and interesting he is when he's just an irredeemably evil, mustache twirling prick who does everything for the lulz? I don't care if he's played by WHOLESOME ED SKREIN CHUNGUS he's a boring, worthless character.
That's what Snyder does. Talk at length about a bunch of shit that's never evident in any of his movies. Look at him talk about the band of warriors assembled.
>>“They’re all misfits,” Snyder says. “They’re all healing and finding a place to belong. It’s a movie about finding a family.” In fact, the director, whose previous blockbusters include 300 and Man of Steel, continues by teasing a scene where Kora and her teammates look upon Veldt and agree that the moon is so beautiful that it’s worth dying on — or fighting hard enough to live upon. “That’s really at the heart of the movie in a lot of ways: Kora finding a place to call home, something that she wants to protect.”
Where the frick is any of that in the film? He always throws out these claims of depth and complexity but it never actually comes across in his movies, they're just crude simplistic narratives bumping around.
>There's so many details with these characters that you can miss if you don't look closely.
>You see that necklace Brown Tarzan wears?
>That's a griffin taming necklace from his honeworld!
>If you paid attention you'd understand how he tames the griffin, because I hinted at it with the griffin necklace from his homeworld that he wears!
Is this guy mentally a toddler?
He equates details with depth. Not what the details are. Just the existence of details.
>It’s a movie about finding a family.”
>We have money to pay you fight the Empire
>Okay I will fight for money
Is this family?
>Is this family?
And you wonder why two of Zack's kids committed suicide.
See, James Gunn could say this about GOTG and yes, I can see that, it is indeed about some misfits finding a family, the film revolves around it. Rebel Moon did not revolve around this. It did not even feature this in an accidental form. If Snyder had this intention, he failed to put it anywhere in the film he made.
You haven't seen the film he made, you've seen 66% of it
Oh frick off
this shit looks like synder tries to messily smash together star wars and warhammer into a shitty mess.
looks more and more like Snyder is an idiot and bad director and 300 was just his lightning in a bottle moment
300 sucks ass too, Dawn of the Dead was his only good movie. But yeah the whole time I was trying not to go make comparisons between Star Wars and 40k but it was basically impossible not to do so every single scene
gay
don't sign your post homosexual
One of the worst movies I've seen and shows all the limitations of these capeshit directors.
Snyder put in all his worst stuff, skinny women, girl boss, slow motion, bad choreography, fight scenes where the stunt waits to be hit, predictable plot with generic Star Wars and Foundation elements, at first it looked like a movie inspired by Metal Hurlant but after 15 minutes, I saw that Snyder went with a PG13 version without sexy women, blood or any hint of sex, like a generic MCU universe that no one wants now.
I thought that outside of Star Wars, Snyder was going to bring a bad ass female character, a Darth Talon, sexy, with that sexy costume that
Kathleen Kennedy censored in the last Star Wars movies but no, he came up with that same universe where everyone dresses like farmers, how can people be so stupid as to invest their money in this?
Coomer detected
Makes me mad this is the first original property I've seen for a long time, and it's utterly derivative
Yeah I was waiting for it just for something fresh, but no. I knew it had come from Star Wars but thought it might have at least twisted a bit more.
Bros is it REALLY that bad? I loved 300 and Watchmen. I liked Snyder Cut.
it's trash
worth a watch
but really poor
I will say it wasn't boring to the point where you finger hovers over the back button. First action scene will leave you thinking this is dumb, I carried on and just found more dumb. It could be worse I guess. It's incredibly average at a time where sci-fi chads really needed some hopium.
If you liked those you have a double digit IQ and might enjoy the flashing lights and colors. But if you expect a plot like those movies had, this one doesn't have one. It jumps from planet to planet and keeps introducing shallow characters with little to no character development who have nothing to do with anything or than agreeing to fight for money because some farmers don't want to sell wheat.
>If you liked those you have a double digit IQ
I bet I earn way more than you do. I bet you're a five figure b***h living in some shithole flyover state.
Prove me wrong.
(he cant)
Post your pay stub and last year's tax forms.
Your turn nerd.
(he's not gonna post shit cause he works at gamestop)
Thanks, that's enough info to dox you.
Yup, you're a cringe little low income b***h. And you're on here telling people they have 2 digit IQs for liking a movie.
Do you know that you'll always be trash? Might as well have a nice day. Not like anyone will miss a loser like you.
I've never seen a Snyder fan get so mad before.
Costumes are top-tier Power Rangers level schlock. No other positives.
The acting was so stilted I was so confused how a mainstream director can produce schlock this badly made.
Gave me a real 40k vibe though so I thought it has a lot of potential. We actually need some better sci fi so I'm cautiously hopeful for its future. If it does well enough maybe we can get some better fare.
Snyder has never been able to direct actors for shit to be honest.
Sadly I wouldn't have realized. The only Snyder movie I ever saw was 300 and that was like, 20 years ago.
That wasn't a film that really featured "acting", just shouting in front of a greenscreen. Which was about what was required. Now he makes films featuring furrowed brows and monotone murmuring in front of a greenscreen.
It's had a third of its running length scooped out by Netflix shitters. You should have waited for the director's cut. How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?
Director's cut isn't going to fix the moronic plot, wooden acting and daub production design.
I thought Netflix was the best place to work at and WB should sell the DC rights to them?
>You should have waited for the director's cut.
This is such bullshit though.
>Unintentionally disastrous production issues from previous Snyder films resulted in an organic "Snydercut" meme
>Decide to forcibly replicate that meme by making the production disastrous on purpose
>The franchise equivalent of a forced meme with hundreds of millions of dollars on the line
They just don't get it.
>I'm super proud of the PG-13 version, the broader audience version, because I would say it really satisfies an awesome, timeless, mythological scope. What we’ve done with the other version is fun and subversive because an R-rated sci-fi movie at this scale shouldn’t exist. It's a full hour longer. It's not just slightly different or a little bit more. There are big chunks of the movie that are different.
>"[I] had really wanted to keep the movie close to two hours. That was like a thing I really wanted to do. I just felt like these two movies together, if they're both about two hours each, and I think movie two is even shorter, it's like an hour and 54 minutes — it's like, I think, one of the first movies I've made that’s under two hours, which is incredible — that was the sort of thing I had in my mind was that I really wanted to keep it close to two hours. So Dody [Dorn] and I, he's an amazing editor, it was really the exercise of like, “Okay, what's the leanest line through the movie?” And that was the game we played with ourselves – only good shots, the best, cleanest line. That was the way that we went about finding what stuck. What stayed in the juggernaut of the movie is what we were looking for, and that was really how we did it.
>Netflix were the ones that came up with the idea for the director’s cut. And I was like, ‘Absolutely perfect!’ It gives me the ability to work on the PG-13 version not in opposition to the studio, but in coordination with them, because I know I always have the director’s cut [too]. So as I make cuts and adjust this movie down so that it’s PG-13 and two hours, I don’t feel like I’m being pushed into it. Whereas my relationship with the studios in the past has always been that the version that’s released theatrically – for me, anyway – is always a little bit of a fight.
That's Snyder's words. This was not some shock thrust upon him at the last minute. He knew from the start he was making a PG13 and an R rated version.
>He knew from the start he was making a PG13 and an R rated version.
or maybe make one good version that isnt moronic instead
He wants violence and nudity in his Not-Star Wars film, because that means it's deep and mature. He won't budget on this.
if you could not see it was horrible after watching the trailers you get what you deserve. LOL
So why did she join the rebels?
because like uhhhhh
she just like did ok
but first an overlong poorly shot, vfx'd and choreographed action scene
Because she just did, don't ask questions!!!!!
>When the motivation of your character is hidden in a flashback scene not included in this version your film
I don't even know her name. I know more about the spider woman she killed than I do about her.
They couldn't buy grain on the industrial cyberpunk planet?
people who say this can't possibly have seen many movies
The drider scene is pretty impressive, slow start but so far comfy.
But yeah need more exposition on why Charlie is leading them on a recruitment journey. Very Magnificent Seven.
>But yeah need more exposition on why Charlie is leading them on a recruitment journey.
Because he's an unrepentant white man bad traitor. What a fricking waste.
Guys....im starting to think zack snyder is not a good director
>biggish budget space opera that isn't star wars
i don't even care that it kinda sucks, i just want more space opera movies
>space opera
Shut the frick up.
no, i don't think i will
>Cary Elwes as the King
It's so distracting
>watches Hack Snyder movie
>its shit
>noooooo how could this happen to me? Aaaaaaaghhh
OP you really fell for the memes didnt you?
>space orcs
>griffons
>Spirit Stallionof the Cimmarron Indian/Ethiopian?
>beefed up Djimon
>Firefly tier ships
This really is a mash up, it's dumb fun
IT'S LITERALLY A WORSE VERSION OF BATTLE BEYOND THE STARS WITH MORE PLOT HOLES THAN IT HAS WORMHOLES IN IT.
I CAN'T BE THE ONLY ONE THAT SEES THIS ?!?!?!
I would have to watch both flicks to give my opinion
This. Its like Snyder thinks we haven't seen this movie before. And somehow he made something even worse
>Its like Snyder thinks we haven't seen this movie before
he'd be right though yet he fails to deliver on the premise of the films he borrows from while adding nothing new
Snyder is the sort who believes he is the first person to ever have whatever thought he just had, while also being the sort who considers recreation of imagery the same as depth. Yes these contradict each other. Thus, Rebel Moon.
his eye is impeccable
it's a shame he's such a talentless bimbo in every other regard
>his eye is impeccable
Judging from Army of the Dead and Rebel Moon, on which he served as his own cinematographer, no it isn't.
his films looks great
it's the writing that let's it down
simp
Do they?
yes
stick to shooting on Zeen lenses you fricking wanna be
What looks good about that?
nothing, which is my point
You just claimed his films look great.
it does
the inverse visual style is to shoot overly sharp at 5.6 the entire time on xeen lenses like the film school try hard simp that you are
homosexual
So he made his film look like shit in order to make it look sarcastically great?
every frame a painting
If you like shitty looking greenscreens and obnoxious digital color grading.
when is he going to copy Galaxina?
always do the opposite of what Cinemaphile says
Haven't seen worse slow-motion bits usage than at this film.
so, netflix deliberately is trying to pull some "snyder cut" pajeet hype wave maneuver right? trying to get people excited for the "good" version of something they deliberately released bad? because it's as obvious as it is pathetic and doomed to fail.
>so, netflix deliberately is trying to pull some "snyder cut" pajeet hype wave maneuver right? trying to get people excited for the "good" version of something they deliberately released bad? because it's as obvious as it is pathetic and doomed to fail.
Yeah, forcing the meme this time instead of the meme arising on its own from outside factors. Fricking soulless.
I liked the aliens. Next two movies should focus on them.
>neat uniforms
>wears white shirt and tie for climax
why
why is the image distorded? is Snyder moronic?
He doesn't know how to operate a camera. For some reason he gave himself the job of operating the camera.
Ben Affleck?
italic cinematography
This looks fricking terrible. Why do people claim Snyder knows visuals? He shot this. He approved this. He used this in his final edit.
[on Star Wars' Empire and his Motherworld]
>Yes, it's influenced sort of iconographically in some ways. We have space fascists, they have space fascists, but I was kind of into that relationship because I like the comment. I think that's one thing that you'll see in the director's cut that is different from the PG-13 version is the irony of a super hard R-rated sci-fi movie at this scale is cleaner in the R-rated version. In the PG-13, we push. It's a hard PG-13. We push them to the ragged edge.
The scene where the rebel leader black guy was running up the crane arm in slow motion was so fricking funny, he was barely moving his legs and super exaggerated his arm movements. It looked like a youtuber fake running in front of a greenscreen