The Rock's *physical appearance* would have been a great Black Adam, back when he still had hair. He no longer does and he's never been able to act, he's never once played a character who wasn't just himself.
He goes full moron and not only tells Wanda Black Bolt's powers, but then he charges at her right after he sees her make Black Bolt's head explode and kill him.
He played a stale as bread genius who isn't very combat tactical. So about as good as a comics accurate Fantastic should be.
He goes full moron and not only tells Wanda Black Bolt's powers, but then he charges at her right after he sees her make Black Bolt's head explode and kill him.
Dwayne can't fricking wrestle for shit. Even the fricking Miz can wrestle better and the Miz fricking sucks Bearer's rotting dick. His finisher is a Elbow Drop with theatrics, Jesus Christ. He wrestles like a grandma with dementia and people somehow expected to pull off a Black Adam.
>Dwayne can't fricking wrestle for shit. Even the fricking Miz can wrestle better and the Miz fricking sucks Bearer's rotting dick. His finisher is a Elbow Drop with theatrics, Jesus Christ. He wrestles like a grandma with dementia and people somehow expected to pull off a Black Adam.
It's really on the heads of the studio/writers/directors now to deliver a quality product.
I mean, the Rock has it kinda bad b/c WB doesn't understand how to make a single decent capeshit movie unless its Shazam or James Gunn happened to pop over for the lulz.
Jim from The Office Guy is a good Reed, but the franchise has had nothing but losers, and Hollywood writers are gonna be hard-pressed to fricking do some basic Lee/Waid/Hickman reading to ascertain what makes FF tick and why exactly Jim from the Office could work super well because of Reed's character. Also DOOM. They'd need to do a lot of work to understand why DOOM is DOOM.
Krasinski was just a normie pick they willed into existence through memes. He’s serviceable enough I’m sure. Let’s see what he can do with real film.
Rock was an actual fan pick but in this instance it’s just a little too late to be perfect. Fans cast Rock for Adam back when he was a fearsome looking meathead with the right hairline. Now it’s too late and we’re left with generic movie star Rock who’s essentially at his late 80’s Stallone career point where all the projects he takes on are just about fueling his ego, every character looks and acts the same and wears the same beige/green explorer army man shirt. He doesn’t even have hair anymore which would be fine except he also won’t wear the ears or change his voice or do anything that leans into the Black Adam character in a negative way. We wanted Scorpion King, instead we go Tooth Fairy.
That shot is from his heel run when he was smaller to look more like a celeb than a wrestler, it was more notable for the debut of Goldberg and Goldberg BTFO'ing Rock more than anything
In fairness to Jim, the script was awful and while he didn't do or say anything interesting, no one in that fricking movie did. They did seem to forget that he's smart though, which does not bode well for the MCU as a while. We can only hope that he lived in a canon dimension of morons so we can just forget that ever happened. And somehow everyone else in the movie was under the influence of the moron dimension for reasons.
Both are lame, every movie that has the rock in it, is just The Rock, but he has a costume on, no accents, no unique body language just "I have big muscles lol"
Kraniski Reed wasn't bad, it's just the script gave him nothing.
It's like saying Reynolds Deadpool sucks because X-Men Origins Wolverine. Pretty clearly that wasn't his fault.
People know this anon, they just pick and choose when to use this rational explanation. The real explanation is that they really don't care for the actor/actress even if they proved their skill in other films.
>Henry Cavill >Better casting choice for Mr. Fantastic
This seems like a worse choice. His size alone makes him incredibly awkward for Reed unless you'll settle for Thing let alone the types of characters/personalities he's shown in his movie. Not sure what accents have to do with it, but in M:I he's just an arrogant "smart" guy who doesn't like to be showed up.
It's weird though how they've failed to do anything legit or permanent with Ian or the potential for Miles
It's amazing how he's aged so well and can really rock the beard. I will never forgive Marvel Movies with shitty misuse of castings, especially the X-Men's films with either the young team or young Xavier/Magneto
Well, yeah, I can't deny that I like Ioan Guffard more...
It's amazing how he's aged so well and can really rock the beard. I will never forgive Marvel Movies with shitty misuse of castings, especially the X-Men's films with either the young team or young Xavier/Magneto
Gruffud just looks more like Reed the older he gets.
>Krasinski was just a normie pick they willed into existence through memes. He’s serviceable enough I’m sure. Let’s see what he can do with real film.
yeah true. i'm willing to give him a chance. even if i would love to see at least some of the 2000s cast come back for some movie
The rock wasn't fan cast as black Adam.
DC casting directors realized he'd be the perfect Namor.
So they locked him down to DC with a contract and hired the gay from got to play aquaman to totally kill the deal.
>The rock wasn't fan cast as black Adam.
He was? Where have you been man? This was during the time where DCEU wasn't really a thing and Marvel had "seemingly" hit jackpot with their casts. A lot of fan trailers for "The Flash", Black Adam, etc... Hell you can still find old trailers or comments under the teasers or talks on line about this. I'm not sure how you retroactively got that reason though?
>The rock wasn't fan cast as black Adam.
You have to be 18+ to post here
Not quite the same thing, but this scene where he says the meme-line, you can really tell it was recorded much later and inserted into the movie to get good boy points from the internet.
Like, it wasn't even a secret, they just said outright that that they were going to record and insert the line/scene after the movie was essentially already in the can, but even if they hadn't pointed it out, it would have been obvious. It doesn't fit the flow of the movie and is just there for "YOU MADE US DO THIS" berries.
>Not quite the same thing, but this scene where he says the meme-line, you can really tell it was recorded much later and inserted into the movie to get good boy points from the internet.
QRD? I don't watch this shit anymore.
Once the premiae and cast of Snakes on a Plane hit the interwebs, everyone started memeing "I HAVE HAD IT WITH THESE MOTHERFRICKING SNAKES ON THIS MOTHERFRICKING PLANE!" Imagining Samuel L Jackson screaming the line in his style of scream-acting. The meme grew the hype for the otherwise utterly forgettable snakesploitation movie. So after the movie was mostly done and in post-production, they dragged Sam back in to say the meme against a greenscreen and then inserted it into the movie in an awkward way.
Snakes on a Plane is honestly a fascinating subject of the evolving 2000’s internet. Basically its fame is due in large part to the internet buzz which made fun of its core premise, buzz the film took full advantage of to the point where they changed it from the working title of Venom to a more on the nose gag title. It could be considered a trailblazer for viral online marketing and embracing meme potential. For better or worse, it’s something of a milestone.
>Dwayne can't fricking wrestle for shit. Even the fricking Miz can wrestle better and the Miz fricking sucks Bearer's rotting dick. His finisher is a Elbow Drop with theatrics, Jesus Christ. He wrestles like a grandma with dementia and people somehow expected to pull off a Black Adam.
With a beard, he's pretty close to Hickman Secret Wars-era Reed. Not quite old enough IMO though, unless Val and Franklin are going to be toddlers in the MCU. He was probably cast from all of the annoying c**ts shouting that he should be Reed after some fanart drew him in a F4 suit.
There was some stuff circling the rumor mill the last few days that suggested Jason Sudeikis as Reed for MCU-616 Reed and I dig that casting more instead.
Krasinski looks like Hickman Secret Wars-era Reed whereas current Gruffudd looks like current Reed (to be fair he just looks the part regardless of time period).
>Not quite old enough IMO though
Here's the thing (heh): current Gruffudd is perfect for a experienced, seasoned Reed. However, if they're going to be introducing the Fantastic Four into the MCU, they'll probably want someone slightly younger. Not too young though or you'll just end up with the Maker.
Don’t mind the Rock as Black Adam and Krasinski did fine with the like 4 seconds he had on screen. Personally I would’ve cast Cumberbatch as Reed if he wasn’t already Strange and Rock makes a perfect Namor.
Always thought it was a dumb move. Never understood why people thought Krasinski would make a good Reed. His ears are too big but more importantly his face looks too young and babyfaced. Reed Richards casting is imo similar to casting white Nick Fury.
I did think they could make Krasinski work as Reed if they aged him down a LOT so that he could age into the character but throwing a current Krasinski onto the screen as a full fledged Illuminati Reed Richards seems like a foolish af move imo.
casting doesn't matter, the writing is the problem
they wrote Reed so badly I go as far as to say its worse than the Fan4stic version and Black Adam looks like another ''supervillain who's actually good deep down'' and The Rock cant act for shit but it will still be more entertaining and slightly more respectable to the character than anything the mouse shits out
Rock as Black Adam is great he just needs to put an accent on.
But Krasinski Reed is...yeah he's just meh.
I mean if you get The Rock, asking him to do the accent is not happening.
The Rock isn't a great actor. He can only play one character and that's the Rock.
This.
Rock is the same character in every film, just a little more or a little less mean.
moronic internet contrarian opinion. The Rock was great in Pain & Gain.
Nah they’re both atrocious. Because of the rock we have to have johns’ awful antihero black Adam rather than full villain.
The Rock's *physical appearance* would have been a great Black Adam, back when he still had hair. He no longer does and he's never been able to act, he's never once played a character who wasn't just himself.
Didnt he get cast for this role like 15 years ago?
Rock makes Rockschlock for a reason, anon. He's not a great actor.
Shame the JSA's theatrical debut was wasted on Rockshlock.
2022, maybe its the time to admit the meme "OMG THE ROCK IS THE BEST MOVIE STAR EVER" stopped being funny.
>Rock as Black Adam is great he just needs to put an accent on.
This
He couldnt even be bothered to do the fricking Widows Peak frick the Rock
He's completely, utterly bald. He was original cast for Black Adam in 2007, he had pretty much lost most his hair and couldn't even have a widows peak
What is a wig
He is not Middle eastern so no.
Did Kraniski even get to do anything?
I can't spell his name, I'm sorry.
He died?
Is that something?
He goes full moron and not only tells Wanda Black Bolt's powers, but then he charges at her right after he sees her make Black Bolt's head explode and kill him.
ITT: i came here just to discuss without watching anything
He played a stale as bread genius who isn't very combat tactical. So about as good as a comics accurate Fantastic should be.
Sounds about how right.
also exactly how an alternate reed should be
so fricking self assured and smug he gets taken down almost immediately.
Nah didnt do shit.
The Rock as Black Adam is fine, he doesn't need to do anything special because who cares.
Krasinski as Reed was fricking terrible and I'm not convinced it wasn't entirely an astrotruf campaign.
>The Rock as Black Adam is fine, he doesn't need to do anything special because who cares.
have a nice day
oh no I made one of the 200 people that actually cares about black adam upset I feel so bad sorry moron!
You mean awesome
Dwayne can't fricking wrestle for shit. Even the fricking Miz can wrestle better and the Miz fricking sucks Bearer's rotting dick. His finisher is a Elbow Drop with theatrics, Jesus Christ. He wrestles like a grandma with dementia and people somehow expected to pull off a Black Adam.
Pretty sure Rock can protect his opponent on a dive, which makes him better than the Miz.
Miz can't go any faster than a light jog
Yeah well, he gets paid more than you.
19 year old fingers typed this. The Rock is a great wrestler. Knew how to sell better than anyone.
He's alright but Austin was better
>Dwayne can't fricking wrestle for shit. Even the fricking Miz can wrestle better and the Miz fricking sucks Bearer's rotting dick. His finisher is a Elbow Drop with theatrics, Jesus Christ. He wrestles like a grandma with dementia and people somehow expected to pull off a Black Adam.
Frick off Paul.
Still seething Dwayne is more successful and more popular than you, Paul?
homie frick off. Both of these are great.
It's really on the heads of the studio/writers/directors now to deliver a quality product.
I mean, the Rock has it kinda bad b/c WB doesn't understand how to make a single decent capeshit movie unless its Shazam or James Gunn happened to pop over for the lulz.
Jim from The Office Guy is a good Reed, but the franchise has had nothing but losers, and Hollywood writers are gonna be hard-pressed to fricking do some basic Lee/Waid/Hickman reading to ascertain what makes FF tick and why exactly Jim from the Office could work super well because of Reed's character. Also DOOM. They'd need to do a lot of work to understand why DOOM is DOOM.
>Waid
>Hickman
>understand what makes the FF tick
>FF
>ever written by Lee
Stop trying to fit in. We can tell.
Somewhat
Krasinski was just a normie pick they willed into existence through memes. He’s serviceable enough I’m sure. Let’s see what he can do with real film.
Rock was an actual fan pick but in this instance it’s just a little too late to be perfect. Fans cast Rock for Adam back when he was a fearsome looking meathead with the right hairline. Now it’s too late and we’re left with generic movie star Rock who’s essentially at his late 80’s Stallone career point where all the projects he takes on are just about fueling his ego, every character looks and acts the same and wears the same beige/green explorer army man shirt. He doesn’t even have hair anymore which would be fine except he also won’t wear the ears or change his voice or do anything that leans into the Black Adam character in a negative way. We wanted Scorpion King, instead we go Tooth Fairy.
I wonder if Flash fans will meme Tom Holland into playing Wally West
I think the more popular fancast for Wally is KJ Apa
Fans want Finn Wittrock as as Superboy Prime but Warner is wasting him on Guy Gardner, when KJ has the proper hair for Gardner
KJ’s natural hair color is black but I see your point. Wonder Twins wasn’t bad casting for him.
Sad thing is now there is no potential choice for Prime
lol
he had b***h breasts
That shot is from his heel run when he was smaller to look more like a celeb than a wrestler, it was more notable for the debut of Goldberg and Goldberg BTFO'ing Rock more than anything
His nipple placement is very low so his chest doesn't look as full. Bad np genetics ruins the chest
And then Rock went full steroids and looks unnatural as a result.
Back in the day my uncle looked like the Rock with a ponytail, now neither of them look like that
>Krasinski was just a normie pick they willed into existence through memes. He’s serviceable enough I’m sure. Let’s see what he can do with real film.
yeah true. i'm willing to give him a chance. even if i would love to see at least some of the 2000s cast come back for some movie
Chris Evans has entertained returning as Johnny instead of Cap.
They nailed 3/4 of them in their movies.
jessica alba as invisible woman grew on me
For me it's the fact that she doesn't do much acting nowadays that I appreciate the short time her butt had in hollywood
I like how she had her chest zipper down in most of the posters/ promotional material even though she had her zip up in the movie.
i don't mind the hair. but i would rather they cast someone actually arab
Most fan casting are awful because they base them on appearance rather than acting ability
In fairness to Jim, the script was awful and while he didn't do or say anything interesting, no one in that fricking movie did. They did seem to forget that he's smart though, which does not bode well for the MCU as a while. We can only hope that he lived in a canon dimension of morons so we can just forget that ever happened. And somehow everyone else in the movie was under the influence of the moron dimension for reasons.
Reid Richards casting REALLY wasn't important to that movie.
Both are lame, every movie that has the rock in it, is just The Rock, but he has a costume on, no accents, no unique body language just "I have big muscles lol"
No, I'm not jealous of his abs!!!
Kraniski Reed wasn't bad, it's just the script gave him nothing.
It's like saying Reynolds Deadpool sucks because X-Men Origins Wolverine. Pretty clearly that wasn't his fault.
People know this anon, they just pick and choose when to use this rational explanation. The real explanation is that they really don't care for the actor/actress even if they proved their skill in other films.
he was pretty awful dude lol
I don't think the idea of John Krasinski playing Reed is bad in and of itself but he's down the list.
Honestly Henry Cavill could make it work. He puts on a good American accent in M:I Fallout.
>Henry Cavill
>Better casting choice for Mr. Fantastic
This seems like a worse choice. His size alone makes him incredibly awkward for Reed unless you'll settle for Thing let alone the types of characters/personalities he's shown in his movie. Not sure what accents have to do with it, but in M:I he's just an arrogant "smart" guy who doesn't like to be showed up.
It's weird though how they've failed to do anything legit or permanent with Ian or the potential for Miles
Well, yeah, I can't deny that I like Ioan Guffard more...
It's amazing how he's aged so well and can really rock the beard. I will never forgive Marvel Movies with shitty misuse of castings, especially the X-Men's films with either the young team or young Xavier/Magneto
So sexy, holy shit.
Gruffud just looks more like Reed the older he gets.
It's only a matter of time before the gray/white hair kicks in to complete the circle
The rock wasn't fan cast as black Adam.
DC casting directors realized he'd be the perfect Namor.
So they locked him down to DC with a contract and hired the gay from got to play aquaman to totally kill the deal.
Seethe some more, marvelgays.
>The rock wasn't fan cast as black Adam.
You have to be 18+ to post here
>The rock wasn't fan cast as black Adam.
He was? Where have you been man? This was during the time where DCEU wasn't really a thing and Marvel had "seemingly" hit jackpot with their casts. A lot of fan trailers for "The Flash", Black Adam, etc... Hell you can still find old trailers or comments under the teasers or talks on line about this. I'm not sure how you retroactively got that reason though?
Honestly this sadly.
No one has ever cared about Namor, let alone enough to spite-cast an actor to specifically nix him. This is some peak mousecuck tinfoil.
Not quite the same thing, but this scene where he says the meme-line, you can really tell it was recorded much later and inserted into the movie to get good boy points from the internet.
Like, it wasn't even a secret, they just said outright that that they were going to record and insert the line/scene after the movie was essentially already in the can, but even if they hadn't pointed it out, it would have been obvious. It doesn't fit the flow of the movie and is just there for "YOU MADE US DO THIS" berries.
>Not quite the same thing, but this scene where he says the meme-line, you can really tell it was recorded much later and inserted into the movie to get good boy points from the internet.
QRD? I don't watch this shit anymore.
Once the premiae and cast of Snakes on a Plane hit the interwebs, everyone started memeing "I HAVE HAD IT WITH THESE MOTHERFRICKING SNAKES ON THIS MOTHERFRICKING PLANE!" Imagining Samuel L Jackson screaming the line in his style of scream-acting. The meme grew the hype for the otherwise utterly forgettable snakesploitation movie. So after the movie was mostly done and in post-production, they dragged Sam back in to say the meme against a greenscreen and then inserted it into the movie in an awkward way.
And to this day that is all pretty much anyone remembers about that movie.
Snakes on a Plane is honestly a fascinating subject of the evolving 2000’s internet. Basically its fame is due in large part to the internet buzz which made fun of its core premise, buzz the film took full advantage of to the point where they changed it from the working title of Venom to a more on the nose gag title. It could be considered a trailblazer for viral online marketing and embracing meme potential. For better or worse, it’s something of a milestone.
>Dwayne can't fricking wrestle for shit. Even the fricking Miz can wrestle better and the Miz fricking sucks Bearer's rotting dick. His finisher is a Elbow Drop with theatrics, Jesus Christ. He wrestles like a grandma with dementia and people somehow expected to pull off a Black Adam.
Why Krasinski was ever cast as Reed? He doesn't look the part
With a beard, he's pretty close to Hickman Secret Wars-era Reed. Not quite old enough IMO though, unless Val and Franklin are going to be toddlers in the MCU. He was probably cast from all of the annoying c**ts shouting that he should be Reed after some fanart drew him in a F4 suit.
There was some stuff circling the rumor mill the last few days that suggested Jason Sudeikis as Reed for MCU-616 Reed and I dig that casting more instead.
Krasinski looks like Hickman Secret Wars-era Reed whereas current Gruffudd looks like current Reed (to be fair he just looks the part regardless of time period).
>Not quite old enough IMO though
Here's the thing (heh): current Gruffudd is perfect for a experienced, seasoned Reed. However, if they're going to be introducing the Fantastic Four into the MCU, they'll probably want someone slightly younger. Not too young though or you'll just end up with the Maker.
Office-jim made Ioan gruffudd look like a paragon of charisma. He's such a wooden actor, really TV-level but somehow he's becoming a movie star.
Don’t mind the Rock as Black Adam and Krasinski did fine with the like 4 seconds he had on screen. Personally I would’ve cast Cumberbatch as Reed if he wasn’t already Strange and Rock makes a perfect Namor.
are there even other examples of fan castings becoming reality in capeshit?
This is some of the fan art that got popular.
This what we got in Dr. Strange 2.
Hate the useless pseudo-Kamen-Rider greebles
all MCU suits are ripping off Kamen Rider Kabuto's design language
>pic unrelated
If Kevin Feioge listens to the fans, why hasn't he brought Dafne Keen yet?
frick you, fans
Always thought it was a dumb move. Never understood why people thought Krasinski would make a good Reed. His ears are too big but more importantly his face looks too young and babyfaced. Reed Richards casting is imo similar to casting white Nick Fury.
I did think they could make Krasinski work as Reed if they aged him down a LOT so that he could age into the character but throwing a current Krasinski onto the screen as a full fledged Illuminati Reed Richards seems like a foolish af move imo.
Krasinski Reed is a great Black Adam
casting doesn't matter, the writing is the problem
they wrote Reed so badly I go as far as to say its worse than the Fan4stic version and Black Adam looks like another ''supervillain who's actually good deep down'' and The Rock cant act for shit but it will still be more entertaining and slightly more respectable to the character than anything the mouse shits out