was amuro a hack pilot? did all his skill come from superior robot?

was amuro a hack pilot?
did all his skill come from superior robot?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    watch the show

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    don't watch the show

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Gundam gave Amuro the time to learn how to pilot, but by around the time he fought Ramba Ral he was already a good pilot and by the end of the series the Gundam was having issues keeping up with him and he was defeating suits equal to or better than the Gundam.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think there were any suits better than the Gundam, except maybe the Zeong (that didn't have luna-titanium alloy) and a few mobile armors (that are inherently larger and more powerful than ma)

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Gelgoog was supposed to be superior in performance as well.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          It has similar performance and beam weapons but no Luna titanium alloy armor which makes it frailer, and no magnet coating

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >would get shredded by a 90mm MG which a Gundam would be Gundam immune to
          >no magnetic coating
          Nah, the Gundam is still better.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Frick, had a moron brain moment, there.

            Point remains, the Gundam still had advantages over the Gelgoog that would put it above it. The Gelgoog only has the advantage of being easier to mass produce, but by that point, there were GM variants that could match them, too.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't think anyone even used 90mm MGs anymore by the time Gelgoogs were rolling out. Certainly not the Federation.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              About 80% of the GMs in MS Igloo, 0080, and 0083 are shown using 90mm machine guns. If not the 90mm gun then it's usually a bazooka.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >fanfic
                >fanfic
                >fanfic
                idgaf
                EFSF only fielded GMs with beam spray guns while cannons were equipped to Balls

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    He was the Best.
    God's Word.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Usso was better stfu

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Get fricked with that blasphemy.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Usso has more naked girl frags than Amuro ever seen naked girls (including bathing toddlers and e-girls)
          Yeah that settles it

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Amuro is canonically a Playboy

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          NAKED WOMAN? HOW DID THEY KNOW MY ULTIMATE WEAKNESS

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'd rate Judau higher out of the the UC cast, of the AU pilots who aren't Domon "I know magic kung fu" Kasshu and Kira "Three flavors of Jesus" Yamato, Garrod Ran BTFOs pretty much everyone, motherfricker was so fricking good as a vanilla ass pilot he broke predestination.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Garrod was carried by Tiffa and his OP Gundams, Xgay.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          He fights peer opponents all the fricking time moron, and he straight up has to rescue Tiffa constantly and does plenty of shit without her.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            There's no MS with a stronger weapon than the Satellite Cannon, other than the DX which is the most powerful MS in its setting but Garrod somehow still managed to get his shit kicked in while piloting it. And no Tiffa means Garrod would've died several times, especially because he wouldn't have been able to fire the "I win" cannon.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              The Satellite cannon doesn't even factor in to a ton of his fights, particularly against the Frost Brothers in their own Gundams.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why three flavors? I know the jesus part.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Coordinator
          >Also a Newtype
          >Also has SEED Factor
          >Also like not a normal Coordinator, he's on fricking cocaine as the perfect super coordinator.
          >Also his SEED Factor is better than most people who have it.
          Really he's like, 3.5 to 4 flavors of Jesus when you get down to it. Like I actually like the dude but he really is a total snowflake.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >>Also a Newtype

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >He doesn't know.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >White Jesus
          >Drunk and bitter Jesus
          >Jihad Jesus

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Never heard the term and never seen the depiction of white Jesus till this year (mostly in response to twitter drama over disney movies). Here in Europe he has always been brunette, long nosed and had brown/green eyes, pretty much levantine looks

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              The Jesus I know at the very least had brown hair, I have never once seen a depiction of blonde Jesus

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Here in the US on every church in the south he's blonde, blue eyed and pink af skin.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You've never stepped into a church.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Garrod's adaptability is highlighted in-universe, but it's actually pretty low compared to other universes. Most of the time, he needs to get hit or outright beaten by something before coming back to counter it, while many protagonists in other AUs or even UC just learn how to handle Funnels and other tricky weapons in the middle of a battle.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        People overhyped Garrod as being this huge anti newtype badass but that's not really the case. Not only did he have one of the most powerful suits of the setting but against Newtypes he was pretty much helpless until the actual newtypes told him what to do. He couldn't figure out the bits until Jamil showed him, and he couldn't deal with the one guy who used the actual flash system until Tifa showed him which one had the actual pilot in it. He's good, but hardly this super badass people hype him up to be.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Judau isn't even the best pilot in his own series

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          true

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          The desert arc showcases that Judau is the only decent pilot in the Gundam Team

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not a high bar to clear, everybody on the Gundam Team is a huge downgrade compared to the previous Argama MS crew, barring Fa, even their opponents are a downgrade.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Judau is a stronger newtype with his giant astral projection summoning, but Amuro is just generally more skilled

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Judau was still doing well in the extremely old and fricked up ZZ years later anon.

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gundam is basically whitewashed Ideon and Am*ro did jackshit to win battles, he was carried by warping gundarium and computer AI
    He fought mediocrily in Dijeh in Zeta that was his real skill
    Numale Gundam went haxx on the haxx so haxxes stomped everything in CCA not Am*ro

    You can skip everything and watch G-Witch, the only good Gundumb entry that isn't for chuds. Don't thank me

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      you are trying way too hard. no one is falling for this one

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >have invulnerable robot with instakill weapons
    >still struggle, even with tons of help from the hax base and manservant mobile suits at your beck and call
    Pathetic

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      You were beaten by a kid, Char, get over it.

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    at the beginning yeah, but by the time zeon rolled out the gelgoogs the gundam had lost its technological edge

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hey Ral.

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    At the beginning yes kinda, but later on it's mostly newtype hax

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    He read the manual first. Every other pilot skips it, but what was Amuro's first action? Read the fricking manual.

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    In CCA he was the apex. He ate Char, Gyunei and every other pilot for breakfast, he's also skilled in and outside his mobile suit.

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    He was hard carried by gundamium until he got enough experience to be competent and skilled.
    He'd have been dead 100 times over if he wasn't in suit made of magic super armor

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    He got his ass saved by Gundarium a lot of times but he was at least better than an average Zeon pilot by the end of his first battle although still way worse than any Zeon ace pilot

    He got really good later on but mostly by being a newtype

    I think Uso was probably the best pilot, he could beat zanscare pilots even when he was still learning to pilot, was outnumbered and just had a stolen enemy ms rather than a Gundam

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >he was at least better than an average Zeon pilot by the end of his first battle
      No, he wasn't, he was crutching on the Gundam's near invulnerability to most of Zeon's MS weapnory and sheer performance gap, nearly every Zeon pilot on the roster was more skilled and experienced than him since they've been much more accustomed to their machines through training and experience and have been fighting for much longer.
      >He got really good later on but mostly by being a newtype
      He outfought skilled and experienced Zeon pilots even before he had a newtype awakening, Ramba Ral being the most notable. Amuro was good because he actually bothered to practice, study his machine, and analyze the enemy, being a newtype just enhanced what he gained through skill, but he was already a good pilot before then.

      Uso had simulator training growing up, that matters a ton when becoming accustomed to piloting, Amuro had no experience, practical or simulated, before he jumped into the wienerpit and was thrown into the fire, nearly everything he gained was under do-or-die circumstances.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        He beat Ramba in large part due to the Gundam's superiority, he didn't outskill him completely

        Also yes he crutches on the Gundam a lot but mostly against Char, he doesn't have too much trouble fighting grunts unless they follow coordinated attacks or he's outnumbered

        Uso had simulator training but he didn't have Gundarium to save his ass if he made mistakes against enemies that have weapons as good as his

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >He beat Ramba in large part due to the Gundam's superiority, he didn't outskill him completely
          By their last mobile suit encounter, they both had a better idea of how their opponent fought. Ramba was beaten because Amuro learned how to use feints and how to properly maneuver in close combat. That wasn't the Gundam's performance, that was skill, and Ramba was genuinely asshurt that he got outmaneuvered by a kid, which is why he tried to lay Amuro's victory solely on the Gundam rather than simply getting better.
          >he doesn't have too much trouble fighting grunts unless they follow coordinated attacks or he's outnumbered
          He still had to learn how to fight properly to survive and defend the White Base, but encounters with aces like Char and Ramba Ral in increasingly better MS forced him to up his game considerably.
          >Uso had simulator training but he didn't have Gundarium to save his ass if he made mistakes against enemies that have weapons as good as his
          Different tech, different tactics, armor doesn't matter anywhere near as much by Victory, it stopped mattering much late in the OYW. Uso can't use his fancier tactics of throwing components at his enemies simply because no mobile suit at the time was anywhere near as modular and capable of independent control of their parts due to how comparatively primitive mobile suits were by the OYW. Amuro was chucking somewhat disposable things at his opponent as distractions before Uso became iconic for doing it.

          Uso's prior simulator training while he's growing up still matters a ton more than Amuro's zero when he was first thrown into combat all while trying to RTFM in the middle of a fight. It's the difference between someone learning how to swim being thrown into a pool filled with aquatic predators versus someone with swimming in a safe environment until getting good enough to swim in the ocean.

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Amuro's superpower was that he was the only one in the whole show who read the user's manual

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bannagher is the hack pilot who got hard carried by his suit

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hack pilots who was carried into victory by a superior Gundam:
      >Suletta
      >Mikazuki
      >Banana
      >Jona
      >Kira
      >Kio
      Based pilots who carried their underpowered and outdated suit to victory:
      >SUPAH PIROTTO Asemu
      >Seabook/Kincade
      >Judau

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It does not matter what Amruo thinks of the Gundam. As well ask him what he thinks of Fraw Bow. Before Amruo was, Gundam waited for him. The ultimate machine, awaiting its ultimate pilot. This is the way it was and will be. This way, and not some other way.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Gundam is hardly the 'ultimate machine'. By the end of 0079 it was holding Amuro back, even with the magnetic coating applied.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's still pretty damn top-notch by the standards of the OYW. A Gelgoog could get shot to scrap by a Zaku's 120mm, while the Gundam, or any Gundam made during the OYW, could easily shrug it off, and the Gelgoog still lacked magnetic coating, and at least 90% of Zeon MS were still using slugthrowers by the end of the war.

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