Seriously? I thought everybody knew.
Check the making of of Christopher Nolan's movies, it's insane how much stuff actually happens in front of the camera.
For example, when the Bat plane flies above the cops, it's actually there. There is CGI, but its limited to deleting the wires and cables holding it up.
Same for lots of other effects. In Dark Knight, when the Joker's truck flips upside down, they actually did that but not in the city for safety measures. They then used effects to copypaste the truck in the city. Similar to what they did in Mission Impossible: Fallout, where Tom Cruise makes a halo jump over Paris: he wasn't allowed to jump over the actual Paris city, but the jump is real and the CGI just adds the Paris background.
... Yeah? It wasn't that complicated it was just time travel.
Or do you just mean because the love reaching across dimensions stuff was dumb? Because that would be fair.
I checked out around the time Anne Hathaway started talking about love crossing time or some nonsensical bullshit. The sci fi was interesting, until they inject the typical manipulative "EPIC" shit that Nolan loves
I was supposed to take that seriously? I thought she was just coping with having to go to Mann Damon's planet instead of her boyfriend's.
this movie is dumb as rocks. you're telling me future 4D humans are trying to help current humans with that wormhole but they opened it halfway across the solar system? why couldn't they just give them the quantum data instead of having to frick over this one farmer's entire life?
that's some bullshit circular logic that's only there to justify an otherwise glaring plothole. nolan is a very competent director but he's ass as a screenwriter.
... Yeah? It wasn't that complicated it was just time travel.
Or do you just mean because the love reaching across dimensions stuff was dumb? Because that would be fair.
I checked out around the time Anne Hathaway started talking about love crossing time or some nonsensical bullshit. The sci fi was interesting, until they inject the typical manipulative "EPIC" shit that Nolan loves
>The sci fi was interesting
No it wasn't, just because they tried to incorporate somewhat accurate scientific ideas like time dilation and accurately modeled the black hole's event horizon doesn't make it interesting.
>bro you just don't get it...it was LOVE, LOVE allowed them to like...TALK TO EACH OTHER...through time and space
normie midwit morons will never understand. it brings a tear to my eye every time, what a complicated and esoteric message: "love conquers all." truly profound
>normie midwit morons will never understand. it brings a tear to my eye every time, what a complicated and esoteric message: "love conquers all." truly profound
I thought it was cheesy at first but I'm glad I read more into it. It was a very thoughtful message. People are too occupied with showing how they're above clichés and sentiments like love to engage with this sentiment. Also, this lead me to find Jorge Luis Borges which was nice.
the exact moment they lost me, I still consider it a good movie, though, but removing this moronic part would make it better. Don't throw random love magic in a movie that's supposed to be serious about science
I do love that Nolan started out by making you think you're watching a movie about le heckin science only to take a massive dump all over it with Love and Religion. Classic bait and switch
This part pisses me off. There is no way Murph is going to write out hundreds of gig of data on the black hole via binary in her room. Also how long would have hundred of gigs in binary taken to display on a watch?
I can't believe they cut the scene where Murph turned 18 and got a BBC boyfriend and her dad had to watch it on a loop for eternity. Is Nolan a racist for cutting it?
why did't they do a long range analysis of Miller's planet? They were like, right there. They would've realized that it's just a big bathbut, hostile to life. Why go down at all?
>What if we travel all the way to Saturn and go through a wormhole instead of studying and potentially terraforming the variety of celestial bodies closer to us
Unironically this movie would have been better as just an ambiguous anthology of science-fiction visuals. No dialogue at all, just an exploratory mission and crazy, theoretical space shit happening.
Judging by the tech in the movie, terraforming technology wasn't even close to being possible. That shit is literal sci fi. At least at time scales that make sense
It was too late to drop it. Should have done it the moment they decided to check the tide-locked planet under massive gravitation force while thinking it's a good idea to even be on such planet, much less living on it.
>Should have done it the moment they decided to check the tide-locked planet under massive gravitation force
They didn't know how much water it had until they decided to go there. You should've probably stop earlier because the movie clearly isn't for you.
>tide-locked to massive black hole >slowmo world
Just those two facts is enough to flee from there as fast as possible. You have to be a literal suicidal moron who knows nothing either about space or physics to even fly near that shit.
>They didn't know how much water it had until they decided to go there
see
why did't they do a long range analysis of Miller's planet? They were like, right there. They would've realized that it's just a big bathbut, hostile to life. Why go down at all?
they were near the planet. they could've done a simple scan. Hell, they could've just tell TARS to take one of the rovers and do a flyby and see what's going on. Why go down at all? >hurr durr there's water and good temps
what if the air is toxic? what if there's hurricane winds? why if the atmosphere is super saturated with steam (something that would've been obvious and visible from hundreds of thousands of km away)?
>tide-locked to massive black hole >slowmo world
Just those two facts is enough to flee from there as fast as possible. You have to be a literal suicidal moron who knows nothing either about space or physics to even fly near that shit.
> they were near the planet
They were outside its orbit. The very reason they didn't do a scan because they couldn't get close due to time dilation and I doubt "scans" would even work because of that. > what if the air is toxic? what if there's hurricane winds? why if the atmosphere is super saturated with steam
This is why you should pay attention to the movie. They were planning going in and getting out in 1 hour grabbing Miller and her data. What if it's toxic? Well no fricking shit that's what they were check with Miller. Doing flybys is even more moronic one of their biggest worries was fuel.
The only mistake they made was no immediately recognizing Miller was there only for a few hours(which they admit was a mistake in the movie itself). > Just those two facts
Plan B exists brainlet. That's why they were willing to take the risk. Why do so many "I heckin love soicence" cucks try so hard to show how they're smarter than movie characters because they know physics and shieeet while not paying attention to the plot at all?
Before you respond, post your favourite sci-fi so we can pick it apart in a similar fashion.
moron, you could figure that the planet is a death world from far away just by thinking for a second, not to mention everything else, much less well known scientific facts. >(which they admit was a mistake in the movie itself). >We knew how much slower time on the planet, and we knew when the previous expedition went there, but we couldn't match those two facts together because we were in too much hurry to find the hospitable world, and that's why we spend dozens of years just to get to the planet's surface and back because there was 0.0000...0001% chance that this was the best planet for humanity to live on. Oopsie. :p
Movie pretend to be intellectual, but it's actually just "switch your brain off bro and enjoy theme park of muh heckin' SCIENCE! ride" type.
>Before you respond, post your favourite sci-fi so we can pick it apart in a similar fashion.
Star Wars The Last Jedi. The peak of science movies.
>to mention everything else, much less well known scientific facts.
Not to mention what? Everything else you mentioned were exposed as you not paying attention to the movie. The one "criticism" that might even be valid was pointed out by me(which you now pretend was your biggest issue). The only thing you're capable of doing is constantly repeat "omg this is so dumb!" while missing basic plotpoints. > Movie pretend to be intellectual.
Like with every other homosexual who indulges in plothomosexualry, you're not smart you think the pinnacle of film discussion is pointing out plot holes or characters making mistakes that in your midwit mind you wouldn't have.
There are plenty of intellectual ideas present in the film(thematic and visual)but you're quite literally too dumb to engage with it in any meaningful manner.
Which is why I asked you your favourite sci-fi, so that we can apply your homosexual tier criticisms on them and see they hold up. And it's funny to me that you seethed about that Starshit film in a snarky manner in response because it's great showcase of the kind of moron that you're.
again, ANYTHING they could've achieved by landing could've been figured out by doing an orbital survey. In fact, if fuel AND time conservation is your goal, landing is the stupid choice >they know the planet has much stronger gravity than earth (requiring tons of fuel to escape velocity) >they know that b/c of relativity, hours spent at the surface will be years on Earth
So what do they do?? they (almost) blindly land on the planet just because 'HURR THAR BE WATER HERE', in the process guaranteeing a shit ton of fuel needed to escape the gravity well AND risking crazy time slippage, when they could have save a shit ton of fuel by analyzing the planet from orbit AND reduce the amount of time passed, since at those levels of relativity, the difference between the surface and just an orbital trip would've been huge
Their plan was to investigate the signal, the water planet was the most recent. With the extreme time dilation they couldnt afford to stay in the orbit. They had to land. You're the midwit here.
> ANYTHING they could've achieved by landing could've been figured out by doing an orbital survey.
There's a reason why the endurance was parked outside of its orbit right? The minute you're in the orbit, time dilation kicks. > Anything
One of the things that Doctor Mann did in the Ice planet was to see if it can be hospitable beneath the surface. Do you think an orbital survey can do that? Now Orbital surveys won't give you any detailed data immediately. They can take days. That would literally be hundreds of years. Even if you do a survey from near the range you will not get any info back immediately because of the time dilation. That's why communication gets cut once they near the planets orbit. So is there a point in doing that or go in and get the data from the person already there? As I said in my previous response . The only mistake they made were not realising Miller was there for only a few hours. Mind you whatever data you could have theoretically using an orbital survey of a few hours, Miller would have that and more because her ranger has been there for the same amount of time and has been gathering data deep into the planet. > Literal midwit movie
You literally didn't pay attention to the movie. Not just that, the solution you provide is idiotic. If plothole/character mistake criticisms are bottom of the barrel, then your attempts at said criticisms aren't even scrapping the bottom of the barrel.
And btw, you didn't mention your favourite sci-fi films, too cowardly?
Interstellar and Inception are not hard to follow, and people who make criticisms to that effect are legitimately unintelligent. This doesn't necessarily mean those movies are good, but these specific criticisms are undeniably drooling moron shit.
No, I needed more shouting of the name Murph.
>*pounds cgi glitch wall*
DON'T LET ME GO MURPH
unironically makes me ball everytime
Bawl
>MURPH QUIT jerking off THE SECRET TO GRAVITY IS LOVE
The whole future humans concept was kinda Deus ex machina, but I guess it's tolerable as a science fiction movie.
>He thinks the tesseract scene is CGI
Nolan fricking hates CGI and will avoid using it unless it's a truly impossible effect.
Holy based noLAD, I will now see Oppenheimer (2023).
Seriously? I thought everybody knew.
Check the making of of Christopher Nolan's movies, it's insane how much stuff actually happens in front of the camera.
For example, when the Bat plane flies above the cops, it's actually there. There is CGI, but its limited to deleting the wires and cables holding it up.
Same for lots of other effects. In Dark Knight, when the Joker's truck flips upside down, they actually did that but not in the city for safety measures. They then used effects to copypaste the truck in the city. Similar to what they did in Mission Impossible: Fallout, where Tom Cruise makes a halo jump over Paris: he wasn't allowed to jump over the actual Paris city, but the jump is real and the CGI just adds the Paris background.
What's the point of practical when they overdo it with CGI making it look fake anyway(talking about the MI scene).
>Unf unf nOLan FRICK my face harder!
Feel free to defend TDKR extras falling over anytime
Tom Cruise is such a chad
I kneel Nolan bros
That's actually pretty cool
what a tryhard
Most anons won't appreciate something like this. It's what makes Nolan flicks feel so tactile.
>not even in 4D
nolan is a fricking hack
Of course it was 4D anon, everything is 4D. The frick do you think time is?
>love dimension
no
I was supposed to take that seriously? I thought she was just coping with having to go to Mann Damon's planet instead of her boyfriend's.
this movie is dumb as rocks. you're telling me future 4D humans are trying to help current humans with that wormhole but they opened it halfway across the solar system? why couldn't they just give them the quantum data instead of having to frick over this one farmer's entire life?
Because that's how they got it moron. They knew it will succeed if they put it there.
that's some bullshit circular logic that's only there to justify an otherwise glaring plothole. nolan is a very competent director but he's ass as a screenwriter.
>bullshit circular logic
It worked so it ain't bullshit, we never really knew how much effort it was taking the future guys to open that wormhole.
Personally I think it just wanted to emulate Space Odyssey.
... Yeah? It wasn't that complicated it was just time travel.
Or do you just mean because the love reaching across dimensions stuff was dumb? Because that would be fair.
hey murph stop rubbing and playing with your tiny pink nipples i'm watching you from 4D space room
I checked out around the time Anne Hathaway started talking about love crossing time or some nonsensical bullshit. The sci fi was interesting, until they inject the typical manipulative "EPIC" shit that Nolan loves
>The sci fi was interesting
No it wasn't, just because they tried to incorporate somewhat accurate scientific ideas like time dilation and accurately modeled the black hole's event horizon doesn't make it interesting.
Yeah, you're right. I actually don't even like Nolan that much but his movies marketing gimmicks are at least novel.
hey hey hey....driving a lincoln...is like driving...nothing at all...
What does the final level of Mass Effect 3 have to do with television or film
the tesseract filtered materialist midwit redditors. everyone else was able to keep up.
b-b-but love is just chemicals in your brain
>bro you just don't get it...it was LOVE, LOVE allowed them to like...TALK TO EACH OTHER...through time and space
normie midwit morons will never understand. it brings a tear to my eye every time, what a complicated and esoteric message: "love conquers all." truly profound
>normie midwit morons will never understand. it brings a tear to my eye every time, what a complicated and esoteric message: "love conquers all." truly profound
I bet you think you understood Tenet as well. Keep jerking yourself off.
>Nolan is le genius
>Makes movie about dreams and all it is is a curving city and that snow level from MW2
I literally walked out if the theater about 30 mins after this scene
>MURPH! ONE OF THE UPPER MOONS JUST GOT KILLED MURPH!
I thought it was cheesy at first but I'm glad I read more into it. It was a very thoughtful message. People are too occupied with showing how they're above clichés and sentiments like love to engage with this sentiment. Also, this lead me to find Jorge Luis Borges which was nice.
anyone that b***hes about this has unironically never been in love before
>anyone that b***hes about this has unironically never been in love before
welcome to 4chud
the exact moment they lost me, I still consider it a good movie, though, but removing this moronic part would make it better. Don't throw random love magic in a movie that's supposed to be serious about science
>Don't throw random love magic in a movie that's supposed to be serious about science
I do love that Nolan started out by making you think you're watching a movie about le heckin science only to take a massive dump all over it with Love and Religion. Classic bait and switch
>Religion
What?
It would have been way cooler if he'd just been spaghettified after crossing the event horizon
Nolan really knows how to make a midwit feel like they're the smartest person in the theatre
This part pisses me off. There is no way Murph is going to write out hundreds of gig of data on the black hole via binary in her room. Also how long would have hundred of gigs in binary taken to display on a watch?
I smoked salvia and that’s what I saw, what does this mean?
It means you had watched this movie and Salvia brought up a memory
I can't believe they cut the scene where Murph turned 18 and got a BBC boyfriend and her dad had to watch it on a loop for eternity. Is Nolan a racist for cutting it?
>NO, MURPH!
>DON'T SUCK HIS wiener!
>DON'T SUCK HIS wiener!
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
>MURPH, MURPH
>MOVE MURPH, HE'S GOING TO CUM RIGHT ON YOUR FACE IF YOU DON'T MOVE
>NOOO
>turned 18
Where do you think you are, anon?
why did't they do a long range analysis of Miller's planet? They were like, right there. They would've realized that it's just a big bathbut, hostile to life. Why go down at all?
>What if we travel all the way to Saturn and go through a wormhole instead of studying and potentially terraforming the variety of celestial bodies closer to us
Unironically this movie would have been better as just an ambiguous anthology of science-fiction visuals. No dialogue at all, just an exploratory mission and crazy, theoretical space shit happening.
>it takes a decade to terraform a planet
ok anon
Judging by the tech in the movie, terraforming technology wasn't even close to being possible. That shit is literal sci fi. At least at time scales that make sense
yes I'm not a moron
>love is dimensionless
Bravo nolan
4plebs is just the ultimate pseud repository.
It was too late to drop it. Should have done it the moment they decided to check the tide-locked planet under massive gravitation force while thinking it's a good idea to even be on such planet, much less living on it.
>Should have done it the moment they decided to check the tide-locked planet under massive gravitation force
They didn't know how much water it had until they decided to go there. You should've probably stop earlier because the movie clearly isn't for you.
>tide-locked to massive black hole
>slowmo world
Just those two facts is enough to flee from there as fast as possible. You have to be a literal suicidal moron who knows nothing either about space or physics to even fly near that shit.
>They didn't know how much water it had until they decided to go there
see
they were near the planet. they could've done a simple scan. Hell, they could've just tell TARS to take one of the rovers and do a flyby and see what's going on. Why go down at all?
>hurr durr there's water and good temps
what if the air is toxic? what if there's hurricane winds? why if the atmosphere is super saturated with steam (something that would've been obvious and visible from hundreds of thousands of km away)?
> they were near the planet
They were outside its orbit. The very reason they didn't do a scan because they couldn't get close due to time dilation and I doubt "scans" would even work because of that.
> what if the air is toxic? what if there's hurricane winds? why if the atmosphere is super saturated with steam
This is why you should pay attention to the movie. They were planning going in and getting out in 1 hour grabbing Miller and her data. What if it's toxic? Well no fricking shit that's what they were check with Miller. Doing flybys is even more moronic one of their biggest worries was fuel.
The only mistake they made was no immediately recognizing Miller was there only for a few hours(which they admit was a mistake in the movie itself).
> Just those two facts
Plan B exists brainlet. That's why they were willing to take the risk. Why do so many "I heckin love soicence" cucks try so hard to show how they're smarter than movie characters because they know physics and shieeet while not paying attention to the plot at all?
Before you respond, post your favourite sci-fi so we can pick it apart in a similar fashion.
moron, you could figure that the planet is a death world from far away just by thinking for a second, not to mention everything else, much less well known scientific facts.
>(which they admit was a mistake in the movie itself).
>We knew how much slower time on the planet, and we knew when the previous expedition went there, but we couldn't match those two facts together because we were in too much hurry to find the hospitable world, and that's why we spend dozens of years just to get to the planet's surface and back because there was 0.0000...0001% chance that this was the best planet for humanity to live on. Oopsie. :p
Movie pretend to be intellectual, but it's actually just "switch your brain off bro and enjoy theme park of muh heckin' SCIENCE! ride" type.
>Before you respond, post your favourite sci-fi so we can pick it apart in a similar fashion.
Star Wars The Last Jedi. The peak of science movies.
>to mention everything else, much less well known scientific facts.
Not to mention what? Everything else you mentioned were exposed as you not paying attention to the movie. The one "criticism" that might even be valid was pointed out by me(which you now pretend was your biggest issue). The only thing you're capable of doing is constantly repeat "omg this is so dumb!" while missing basic plotpoints.
> Movie pretend to be intellectual.
Like with every other homosexual who indulges in plothomosexualry, you're not smart you think the pinnacle of film discussion is pointing out plot holes or characters making mistakes that in your midwit mind you wouldn't have.
There are plenty of intellectual ideas present in the film(thematic and visual)but you're quite literally too dumb to engage with it in any meaningful manner.
Which is why I asked you your favourite sci-fi, so that we can apply your homosexual tier criticisms on them and see they hold up. And it's funny to me that you seethed about that Starshit film in a snarky manner in response because it's great showcase of the kind of moron that you're.
again, ANYTHING they could've achieved by landing could've been figured out by doing an orbital survey. In fact, if fuel AND time conservation is your goal, landing is the stupid choice
>they know the planet has much stronger gravity than earth (requiring tons of fuel to escape velocity)
>they know that b/c of relativity, hours spent at the surface will be years on Earth
So what do they do?? they (almost) blindly land on the planet just because 'HURR THAR BE WATER HERE', in the process guaranteeing a shit ton of fuel needed to escape the gravity well AND risking crazy time slippage, when they could have save a shit ton of fuel by analyzing the planet from orbit AND reduce the amount of time passed, since at those levels of relativity, the difference between the surface and just an orbital trip would've been huge
Literal midwit movie
Their plan was to investigate the signal, the water planet was the most recent. With the extreme time dilation they couldnt afford to stay in the orbit. They had to land. You're the midwit here.
> ANYTHING they could've achieved by landing could've been figured out by doing an orbital survey.
There's a reason why the endurance was parked outside of its orbit right? The minute you're in the orbit, time dilation kicks.
> Anything
One of the things that Doctor Mann did in the Ice planet was to see if it can be hospitable beneath the surface. Do you think an orbital survey can do that? Now Orbital surveys won't give you any detailed data immediately. They can take days. That would literally be hundreds of years. Even if you do a survey from near the range you will not get any info back immediately because of the time dilation. That's why communication gets cut once they near the planets orbit. So is there a point in doing that or go in and get the data from the person already there? As I said in my previous response . The only mistake they made were not realising Miller was there for only a few hours. Mind you whatever data you could have theoretically using an orbital survey of a few hours, Miller would have that and more because her ranger has been there for the same amount of time and has been gathering data deep into the planet.
> Literal midwit movie
You literally didn't pay attention to the movie. Not just that, the solution you provide is idiotic. If plothole/character mistake criticisms are bottom of the barrel, then your attempts at said criticisms aren't even scrapping the bottom of the barrel.
And btw, you didn't mention your favourite sci-fi films, too cowardly?
I was asleep by the first cornfield.
I remember watching this as a camrip with shitty contrast and when this came on the entire flick basically became nonsensical and incomprehensible
Yes, think of every possible outcome of one certain event. There exist infinity possibilities of that one single event
>Muh Murph
Interstellar and Inception are not hard to follow, and people who make criticisms to that effect are legitimately unintelligent. This doesn't necessarily mean those movies are good, but these specific criticisms are undeniably drooling moron shit.
I watched for Foy