>you are not allowed to like the Empire
Ukraine will be a military power will all the shit they are getting from the west and Russia is depleted and stuck with decaying destroyed shit.
>Now that my israeli overlords told me invasion is bad, f-frick Russia >what about the Iraq invasion? >that's different
Kys you hypocritical homosexual
Biden voted for it. I guess sanctions should be put on the US in response.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Look at the hypocrisy again. At that time every American bought the whole "WMD" bullshit your moronic President spouted. On the contrary anyone who disapproved of the invasion ( calling it a war is disingenuous) was viewed as a traitor.
>let me tell you what happened in America even though I don't live there and I hate it
2 years ago
Anonymous
>gets called out for being a hypocritical b***h >no counter argument >resorts to wojack spam
Sad!
2 years ago
Anonymous
>doesn't listen to reason >resorts to name-calling >absolutely no arguments >gets mad at drawings
yup, a vatBlack person alright.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>trys to be morally superior after posting wojacks
Nice try tubby.
You have yet to provide a logical argument. Read the thread again carefully and this time try to get your head out of your ass before doing so. You got BTFO when I mentioned the US' hypocrisy over the Iraq invasion you had to resort to moronic ad hominem arguments about not residing in the US, as if that is any criteria to criticize them. Lmao at your stupidity.
2 years ago
Anonymous
i literally haven't said anything about russia, only ukraine. keep arguing with the voices in your head, hohol
>don't care about what third-worlders think
Well at least you got one thing correct. No one cares what the US thinks either.
>t.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>can't imagine someone disagreeing with him and not being part of his strawman
crazy how saying you don't care for X means you're defined by a love you never expressed for Y. almost like it's actually a coping mechanism when faced with opinions you can't process into neat boxes like a child
2 years ago
Anonymous
don't know what that means. anyway, what will you wear at your city's next gay pride parade?
keep coping, b***hes
2 years ago
Anonymous
cope with your mulatto transsexual grandchildren
2 years ago
Anonymous
There's 10 dead Ukrainians to every 1 Russian tho...
>anyone who thinks the US is cancer is a ruskie
This is some 80s level of "everyone who i don't like is a commie"
>resorts to more crudely drawn cartoons
This would be hilarious if it weren't so pathetic
lol
2 years ago
Anonymous
There's 10 dead Ukrainians to every 1 Russian tho...
2 years ago
Anonymous
>pads his numbers with civies
russian bastard.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>resorts to more crudely drawn cartoons
This would be hilarious if it weren't so pathetic
2 years ago
Anonymous
don't know what that means. anyway, what will you wear at your city's next gay pride parade?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>anyone who thinks the US is cancer is a ruskie
This is some 80s level of "everyone who i don't like is a commie"
2 years ago
Anonymous
You people are as naive and stupid as all those leftist Western commies, yes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>he says while being spoonfed Western propaganda
2 years ago
Anonymous
Many such cases, israelites are playing both sides against each other as usual
2 years ago
Anonymous
your grandchildren will be mulatto transsexuals
2 years ago
Anonymous
how does it feel that the russian army is losing to transexual redditor liberals? I'd feel pretty bad
lmao
2 years ago
Anonymous
not a russian, so i don't care. again, not everyone who hates you is a russian
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not a russian but you sure are peeved about the fact that Russia is getting it's ass kicked lmao >not everyone who hates you is a russian
I don't care about what third-worlders think
2 years ago
Anonymous
i literally haven't said anything about russia, only ukraine. keep arguing with the voices in your head, hohol
2 years ago
Anonymous
>don't care about what third-worlders think
Well at least you got one thing correct. No one cares what the US thinks either.
Look at the hypocrisy again. At that time every American bought the whole "WMD" bullshit your moronic President spouted. On the contrary anyone who disapproved of the invasion ( calling it a war is disingenuous) was viewed as a traitor.
Do you know what Mark Hamill is most well-known for?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>most
Voicing Joker and playing Luke Skywalker are literally the only things the guy is known for.
He was also did Skeletor for Kevin Smith, which was a disaster.
2 years ago
Anonymous
This is a pretty moronic post, my man.
2 years ago
Anonymous
you didnt see who posted the tweet in OP and made a stupid reply, got called out and emarassed and now are grasping at straws. Am i right? Its an anonymous board, you can pretend youve left the thread
2 years ago
Anonymous
Mark Hamill is most know for playing a character that abandoned his family and friends after he tried to kill a sleeping child of his sister and best friend in his bed.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Reminder all nu wars is homosexual shit
2 years ago
Anonymous
This, mark hamill should have used another movie franchise, one he has zero personnal connection with, to make his point, tgat would have made much more sense
So? Does it make it any less childish or moronic?
And I'm not only talking about Hamill, I'm also talking about the moronic legions of soiwars fans who use the same analogy.
This, mark hamill should have used another movie franchise, one he has zero personnal connection with, to make his point, tgat would have made much more sense
>The Javelin, produced by Raytheon and Lockheed Martin, has gained an iconic role in Ukraine — the shoulder-fired, precision-guided anti-tank missile has been indispensable in combating Russian tanks. But production in the U.S. is low at a rate of around 800 per year, and Washington has now sent some 8,500 to Ukraine, according to the CSIS — more than a decades’ worth of production. >https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/28/the-us-and-europe-are-running-out-of-weapons-to-send-to-ukraine.html
He is trying to imply that ukrainian language doesnt exist (just like their "nation"). It is written in Polish because Poland and Russia will split Ukraine .
Been following Hamill on social for years, the guy is legitimately braindead.
The analogy in question is particularly idiotic because unlike the Rebels Ukraine is well trained and armed to the tooth, while Russia proved to be massively overrated and comically incompetent, so more like the First Order.
On the ideological side,despite the narrative the western media has been pushing since February, the Ukrainian military is basically one big Nazi larp organization and president Zelensky gave up on fighting after certain military figures literally threatened to hang him. .
First, why did he write it in Polish and not Ukrainian?
Second, it's funny because it is Russia which has rebelled against western global hegemony, and it is an underdog. If not for nukes, NATO would already be involved fullscale. But it has to wage a proxy war through Ukraine instead, but the involvement is insane, like nothing else in the past. The sanctiins are unprecedented too. Ukraine is being destroyed in the process, but they never cared about Ukraine, it's just an instrument to them no matter all the propaganda and virtue signaling like this. All the "help" is aimed at war, before the war the West has been plundering Ukraine and every year there was a net outflow of investments. And even if the war somehow stopped now, Ukraine already suffered irreversible and catastrophic economic and demographic damage. EU is done for economically too btw. "To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal"
>underdog
BAHAHAHA we are already on the underdog cope after the decades of russia stronk bullshit, that's fricking hillarious.
Literaly dinduffins on dey way to orthodox mosque.
Ahhb this pesky NATO and EU, threatening Russia’s sphere of influence by being incomaringly superior options for it’s former vassal states. Russia is justifed in waging a war against Ukraine lest it joins the western world and becomes slightly less of a shithole.
Russia wouldn't be an underdog if the kleptocrats hadn't stolen the funds meant for military improvements, Putin is moronic and probably inadvertently killed anyone who had a spine who would have told him what a shit military he actually had.
>going to church
lmao
LMAO
Do you really think anyone still does this these days? Fricking christcuck, your israeliteworship is dying out and not soon enough.
>russia is just EVIL for attacking Ukraine! All because the EU and USA look like superior places to be a vassal state to
How is this any different from USA and europe funding the rebels in Syria because Assad was tight with Russia? It wasn’t for the good of the people. A bulk of the rebels were the same Islamic extremists we were meant to be so against. It was just a power play over regions
Why are we pretending russia has done something new? Only real difference is that russia is weak as shit in comparison and directly annexing things to try and force a ceasefire, lest Ukraine risk “invading” Russian territory. So I’m guessing Putin is risking that the west will stop supplying arms at that point to minimise nuclear risk
Because russians are subhuman asiatic mongrel vermin and eternal pestilence on humanity and any opportunity for their eradication should be celebrated.
To be frank I think that there are scant few redeeming qualities to either side in this war and only support Ukraine because I chat to a guy who lives there and it'd be a shame if he died for this dumbfrick moron war.
>We didn't need Kiev >We didn't need Odessa >We didn't need Sumy >We didn't need Mykolaiv >We didn't need Kryvyi Rih >We didn't need Dnipropetrovsk >We didn't need Kharkiv >We didn't need Balakliia >We didn't need Izyum >We didn't need Lyman
<<<YOU ARE HERE>>> >We didn't need Svatove >We didn't need Starobilsk >We didn't need Lyschansk >We didn't need Kherson >We didn't need Melitopol >We didn't need Mariupol >We didn't need Luhansk >We didn't need Donetsk >We didn't need Crimea >We didn't need Belgorod >We didn't need Kursk >We didn't need Tula >We didn't need Moscow
True, Volodya is playing 7d chess where the endgame is to bankrupt your nation, set it back 30 years in terms of geopolitical podition, and make your people internatoonal pariahs. Truly a master of his craft.
>Annex territories that you don't even fully control >Say that you will protect them using all means available >Both NATO and Ukraine say that they don't give a frick >Lyman falls shortly after that
They weren't a little suspicious after Putin claimed to denazify a country with a israeli head of state? Or after it turned out that most Ukranians really like having their own nation and don't really want Russia to "liberate" them?
You are underestimating how apathetic and apolitical your average Russian is. As long as shit doesn't affect them directly they don't give a frick and go along with everything propaganda says. Now shit finally got real.
>Ukranians really like having their own nation
hohols think living in a human trafficking hub ruled by literal israeli gangsters is "having their own nation" lmao
>hohols prefer racial aliens who planned and executed the holodomor over their slavic brothers
hohol intelligence
2 years ago
Anonymous
But those were Russians. Nobody is brother to Russian subhumans as we can see in thks war.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>But those were Russians
hohol moment
2 years ago
Anonymous
>we didn't do it >they deserved it >we'll do it again
Never change vatBlack person.
2 years ago
Anonymous
rent free. despite your mania, not everyone who dislikes you is a russian. keep worshiping the people who genocided your ancestors, like the dumb cattle you are
2 years ago
Anonymous
Russians have been genociding my people for generations and some moron in the internet will not change that. I just hope that after we genocide Russia we'll get to internet warriors like you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>i-it was da russians!! save me nato/israel! i will do anything you ask!
your daughter will be a sex slave in israel. you disgust me and every other european
2 years ago
Anonymous
I will skin you and your whole family alive and force you to watch.
2 years ago
Anonymous
yes we're all familiar with hohol bloodthirstiness and sadism. go torture some more russian children for your israelite masters
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
>every other european
The other way around, the vast majority of Europeans are impressed with Ukies and physically revulsed with Russian scum. Not that you would know, Nigel from Yorkshire Oblast.
2 years ago
Anonymous
the vast majority of europeans hates america/nato and wants nothing to do with the war, and that majority is only going to increase as winter rolls on
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ah yes I forgot, we're supposed to freeze to death even though everyone including Germany has found other suppliers and has almost full gas reserves for the winter. Really shows you're not just regurgitating Kremlin talking points.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>ncluding Germany has found other suppliers and has almost full gas reserves for the winter
Yeah sure.
Meanwhile there are no streetlights from the Frankfurt airport to the hotel.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>there are no streetlights from the Frankfurt airport to the hotel
WTF I HATE HATO NOW
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the vast majority of europeans hates america/nato
lmao your little communist club is not "vast majority of europeans"
>comparing Russia to the Empire
Come on now. If Russia was in charge, both Death Stars would have been blown up before the rebel forces even arrived, Darth Vader would have stood in front of Alderaan with Leia for weeks, eventually retreating because Alderaan's defences were just too strong. Their ships would run out of fuel during dogfights and the Emperor himself would only meet Luke at a comically large table.
For all its worth, the Empire was actually rather competent. Russia is not
Putin forgot that Russia loses every... single... solitary war where there isn't somebody to bail them out (Hitler/Allies in WWII; France/Britain/US in WWI; The Coalition in the Napoleonic Wars etc.)
The last 1 on 1 wars they had - Afghanistan in the 80s and Poland in 1919-1921 - they lost.
Ah yes I seem to remember how the Rebels were supported by the superpowers of the world and the Empire was a collapsing regime with outdated, barely functional tech and corrupt, incapable army. Ok the last bit fits considering stormtroopers.
the only thing gayer than all this political/fictional hero villain signaling is being some /misc/ homosexual who meta games that very same signaling in order to form their political opinions
>Muh bad guys are the Empire
Didn't they get rid of the Empire like 3 times in the film's, and the new established government eventually becomes a new Empire? What did he mean by this?
In case you haven't paid any attention to him, he's a crazy ass lefty homosexual. That has gotten increasingly worse as everything raises to meet his previous levels.
is hilarious to me how poltard americans went to support the big american patriot trump to support russia and putin just to be contrarian to the end
this people would support china if they made liberals mad
so braindead
I mean, Russia does pour a shitload of money into their military. On paper they should be a power to be reckoned. The problem Putin didn't foresee is that 90% of his military budget actually goes on mansions and yachts and Harvard education for officer's kids etc and the real, existing russian military is a ran by aged, bored morons and none of the armor is maintained properly.
>alleged superpower that claims to have world's second best army >gets btfo'd by a bunch of hohol pig farmers who are led by a literal clown and armed with cold war-era scrap, captured russian equipment and some rocket artillery
If this was accurate America / NATO would be the empire but it fits left wing paralogy that the combined economies and forces of the first world would be marginalised. Any other conceptualisation would fill people with anxiety
ukraine's recent gains rest on outnumbering an otherwise superior opponent somewhere between 3:1 and 5:1. it's no coincidence that zelensky publically contemplated that ukraine's basis is (a meagre) 5.5 million men after russia announced activation of 300k to 1m reservists
It doesn't look like that strategy is working out. Most people don't want to be drafted, so they try to leave the country. Production is probably shit too since a lot of countried are boycotting Russia. Plus, it doesn't look like Ukraine is giving up soon, considering how they are basically marching through Russian lines at this point
Most people can't leave the country for one reason or another. The real problem here is that Russia can't equip and train people they are drafting right now, poor fricks have to buy their own shit. Yes you read that right, you get mobilized and you have to pay for it.
>have to buy their own shit
Come on now. That has to be fake. I fully believe it's possible that there might not be enough equipment but drafted people having to pay for the "privilege"? Not even Russia can be this shit
It's real, it got so bad russian anti-monopoly agency got involved, since shops selling that sort of gear raised prices to ridiculous levels. Apparently equipment that was in storage either rotted away or was sold to aforementioned shops.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Can't the Russian government just buy that gear from the shops directly?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't think that shops have that much equipment. You need a frickton of gear to equip that many people, the only option left here is start producing it somewhere, and that requires setting up new production lines which is kinda difficult.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes but instead of soldiers having to buy the stuff themselves the government could do it
>Most people don't want to be drafted, so they try to leave the country. >250k or even 500k men when your mobilization basis is around 20m
you dont understand the dimensions of what russia is capable of. they can lose millions and keep on fighting and winning this war. ukraine cannot afford to lose millions. >Production is probably shit too since a lot of countried are boycotting Russia
russia is a resource-rich country. it manufactured ~280k mortars and guns in 1942, when german troops stood at the gates of moscow and east of ukraine, at stalingrad. it also maintained a 3m army in the field. in 1942. >Plus, it doesn't look like Ukraine is giving up soon, considering how they are basically marching through Russian lines at this point
ukraine won't give up unless russia goes all-in or the west refused to scale up to industrial production. given the above numbers, ukraine needs at least 4 figure numbers of mobile artillery pieces and ammunition. if the west commits to that, ukraine will stay in and russia will be forced to interrupt supplies by nuking western ukraine at which point it will be gg
>it also maintained a 3m army in the field. in 1942
You ever heard of this thing called Lend-Lease?
if there had been a prospect back then of ukraine not being a russian colony but switching to the west, ukraine would have never become a country of its own >he would try to annex or subjugate Baltic States
yes, if you force russia to mobilize fully, the baltic states will be attacked and conquered and NATO won't be able to stop it because it won't find enough troops to face off 2 or million battle-experienced russians over that piece of land. nobody is willing to die for riga
>2 million battle-experienced russians
They're struggling to mobilise less than a quarter of that right now vatnik, and western armies actually are battle-experienced but unlike yours we have modern equipment that actually fricking works. I'm sure all the NATO tank crews would love to have a go at whatever 70s crap Putin's currently fielding.
>Lend-Lease
sure and it helped because there were few trucks in the country at the time. but there are enough civilian trucks all over russia to supply a 3m army in 2022. >They're struggling to mobilise less than a quarter of that right now vatnik
and yet they will get there. >western armies actually are battle-experienced
i LOL'd. you can't say that with a straight face. ukrainians are more experienced by now than overall western armies. > I'm sure all the NATO tank crews would love to have a go at whatever 70s crap Putin's currently fielding.
most people dont want to go to war. that goes for russians, ukrainians and NATO soldiers. but you know that russia currently only commits material that isn't reserved for a conflict with a major power, do you?
2 years ago
Anonymous
lol, i've been hearing the same shit from the very start of this war. The stupid shithole collapses and you will claim it was part of the plan.
I guess the collapse of the Soviet Union was also planned? I mean, Russia was so strong back then.
2 years ago
Anonymous
SU was absolutely weak economically back then because socialism is shit. and yet kennedy stood at the berlin wall and did nothing because he knew the capabilities of the soviets. now we have generations in the West who don't understand war at all, leading to all the BS talk in this thread here
ukraine will lose, it doesnt have the manpower nor enough guns to win against a russia that's scaling up. and it will be our fault for egging them on.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sure, sure, Ivan.
10% of a 20m basis will still be 2m men in the field.
[...]
by switching to war economy. again, the soviets could supply 3m men in 1942. unless you're telling me that they had more trucks back then than russia has right now or can acquire right now on the global market.
and all of that ignores the issue that if the war becomes industrial and the west starts supplying ukraine on an industrial scale, the russian PUBLIC will demand nuking western ukraine to cut off supply routes instead of facing mass casualties among their own rank.
the situation of ukraine is fricking hopeless.
and that was my biggest reservation against supporting ukraine all along. we're pushing them into a fight they cannot win and that's disgusting.
No, the Russian public will demand regime change. You know, something that already happened multiple times in Russian history. They aren't robots, this is not your video game.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>No, the Russian public will demand regime change.
you're betting the lives of ukrainians that this happens. you're betting their lives on russians relenting and accepting being partially surrounded by hostile NATO forces and possibly facing ethnic unrest in their own country as their grip is being perceived as slipping. that's not a bet i would take.
i think russians will fight for their continued self-determination. so that nobody outside can tell them what to do or how to live.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Bieng under Russian boot is unironically worse than death so I fully understand Ukrainians. >Russians
It's not Russians. It's literally just Russian regime. It's not like Russians are free to express their opinion.
NATO is a voluntary organization. All the East European countries joined it because of their fear of Russia. All the organizations created by Russians are either failures like CIS or they were forced on its members by Russian military (Warsaw Pact).
And yet you talk about Russians and their rights to self-determination, lol.
2 years ago
Anonymous
i understand and even sympathize with their desire for self-determination. i just think geography and the geography of power can't be fought. odds are overwhelming. given these circumstances, their best hope would have been a russian colony with a maximum of freedom via negotiation. but that is no longer in the cards because they've been listening to fake friends who were telling them that they can prevail with western help when they can't.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Russia collapses sooner than Ukraine. If Russians somehow take Ukraine you can expect massive insurgency and terrorist actions all over the country.
This is 21st century, you pretty much can't take over a country like that.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Russia collapses sooner than Ukraine.
within 2 weeks perhaps? topkek >If Russians somehow take Ukraine you can expect massive insurgency and terrorist actions all over the country.
what are they gonna do? take 600 children hostage and blow them up. been there, done that. it'd only lead to ethnic cleansing with ukrainians being pushed over the border to poland
2 years ago
Anonymous
>blow them up
lol blow them up because of your pathetic """""""rescue"""""" operation
Maybe at some point the military decides to coup your moronic dictator. We can only hope.
2 years ago
Anonymous
the point being that the russian public swallowed all this and won the war in chechnya
>Ukraine must not join NATO >so we have to invade Ukraine so it does join NATO because we provided a reason for it to do so
russians are moronic, huh.
if the west is not willing to fight for ukraine now, it won't put up much of a fight when it NATO either. promises are good and fine but when your husband's or your brother's life is at stake, there's gonna be some soul-searching about that promise and how important it really is to keep.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ukraine has 44 million people, Chechnya 1 million. They also weren't supplied by all the Western powers. And modern Russia has lower GDP per capita than even Romania.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I love how you ignore that NATO has sent billions of dollars' worth of war material to Ukraine
2 years ago
Anonymous
And tens of thousands of mercenaries
Yeah, and in 1917 it was also controlled demolition and planned.
That was pure chaos. Even people very familiar with it need help remembering all the factions and major events
2 years ago
Anonymous
Ukraine collapsed months ago. It's 100% funded by the American government down to paying garbage men.
However this conflict shakes out, the damage to Ukraine is already done. A fraction of people will return. It's going to be a shadow of a country. A formality on a map
2 years ago
Anonymous
>And yet you talk about Russians and their rights to self-determination, lol.
yes. because irrespective of government or even form of government, a country cannot let rival countries surround them like that. you risk ending up in a siege. so, even a soviet, a fascist or a theocratic government would have had to prevent that from happening. and that's why hopoing for regime change is hopeless. russians are fighting for other countries not gaining power over them
no foreigner can tell americans what to do. otoh, americans can germans what to do if they want to. so far nobody could tell russians what to do. that is at stake for russians.
they will not relent. and that's why what washington has caused here is a crime.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It already happened in the 90s. It will happen again but on a much larger scale.
2 years ago
Anonymous
nope. losing eastern europe wasnt critical or else the russians wouldn't have allowed it. this is critical for maintainign self-determination. nobody can tell russians what to do, so far. russians are fighting so that it stays that way.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah, yeah, it was okay for the Baltics to become UE and NATO countries. We never cared about those countries!
We can always return to early 17th century when nor Ukraine or Belarus were part of Russian sphere of influence. History still continues. Russia wasn't always this powerful empire.
2 years ago
Anonymous
the point being that with the baltics the west can't pressure russia, as demonstrated now
with the baltics AND ukraine, the next stop is georgia and belarus and then russia starts to fall under washington's thumb
2 years ago
Anonymous
i should add that for the US the kremlin is just a milestone with the actual target being china. with a russian zelensky in the kremlin, we'd see american outposts starting to pop up at china's northern border.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That was a controlled demolition and worked out between the USSR and American israelites. It was methodical and planned
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah, and in 1917 it was also controlled demolition and planned.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It's not Russians. It's literally just Russian regime.
Nah, it's Russians. Every last one of them, in fact.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>No, the Russian public will demand regime change
Even if that weren't a fantasy currently, who would replace him? Putin is more of a dive than he is a hawk in terms of Russian politics.
Change SMO to Total War
Destroy ukie gas/electrcity/water infraestructures before winter and let west ukraine collapse.
If that doesn't work and the comedian really want to take Crimea from the RF, he will nuke west ukraine.
you only need to destroy railways and keep them down, whether by nuclear or conventional means. or, you just put another 10k arty pieces to the frontline, some of them will hit something while they turn all of ukraine in a moon landscape.
the war is on the verge of turning industrial. if the west is not prepared to go that route, ukraine auto-loses. if it is, western ukraine will probably get nuked.
Ukraine will not lose this war and you're completely delusional if you think otherwise. The Russians lost in Afghanistan, they won't be able to take Ukraine.
vietnam and afghanistan were not important to the invading countries. nor was iraq. they could easily afford to collect their toys and go home. ukraine has become an existential issue for russia as moscovites have to fear their entire federation falling apart if their grip on power is perceived as slipping. going home would mean partially being surrounded by a spiteful NATO and having hateful ukrainians at their doorstep. middle-class russians understandably don't want to face this situation but it'll dawn on them.
Fricking western leaders are really playing with fire. They really believe that Pootin is going to surrender to israelitelensky.
When West Ukraine gets nuked, all this "I STAND WITH UKRAINE" meme trending topic is going to dissapear, beacause nobody is going to risk to get their countries nuked, not for fricking Ukraine, a big corrupted shithole beyond salvation.
No, it would most likely lead to WW3, but I doubt even Russians are this stupid.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>No, it would most likely lead to WW3, but I doubt even Russians are this stupid.
nobody is willing to die for ukraine. ww3 will only happen if there is an existential threat to a big nuclear power. nuking proxies is decidedly NOT an existential threat.
Nah. I know history well enough to not trust Russians.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't trust Russians either. Like I said, if you like Russia you are heartless.
2 years ago
Anonymous
NATO saved Eastern Europe from Russian agression, so I'd rather support them than anyone else.
If the Baltic states wouldn't join NATO when Russia was weak they would end up like Ukraine. And all Russia brings is corruption and misery.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>NATO saved Eastern Europe from Russian agression
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes. If Ukraine joined in the 90s Putin wouldn't invade it. It's really simple.
And it's pretty obvious that he would try to annex or subjugate Baltic States if they weren't already in NATO and the EU.
Happened with Georgia, with Ukraine,
2 years ago
Anonymous
if there had been a prospect back then of ukraine not being a russian colony but switching to the west, ukraine would have never become a country of its own >he would try to annex or subjugate Baltic States
yes, if you force russia to mobilize fully, the baltic states will be attacked and conquered and NATO won't be able to stop it because it won't find enough troops to face off 2 or million battle-experienced russians over that piece of land. nobody is willing to die for riga
2 years ago
Anonymous
No, it will lead to WW3. You're completely delusional if you think modern Russia is the same as WW2 Russia. >nobody is willing to die for riga
That's a foolish assumption as it would dissolve NATO and no one in the West wants it to happen.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>No, it will lead to WW3.
nobody in the west is willing to send their sons and brothers and husbands over there to die for ukraine. that's why there will be no ww3 over ukraine. ukraine will be beat into submission by an opponent that has a larger mobilization basis and defense industry that can scale up. > if you think modern Russia is the same as WW2 Russia.
it's not because it's larger and more modern than WW2 russia. they only have to do a 10 or 20% production effort of WW2 to hopelessly outgun ukraine. >That's a foolish assumption as it would dissolve NATO and no one in the West wants it to happen.
i can tell you the amount of dead soldiers that germany is willing to bear for that fake promise is quite limited. instead, there would be calls asking who admitted these countries into NATO and why. plus, article 5 does not specify any specific response required. a protest note or a token effort satisfy the treaty.
washington has been foolish and if russia fully mobilizes the jig is up. people don't want to die for other people's empty promises
2 years ago
Anonymous
There will be WW3 if Russia attacks a NATO country. I never said anything about Ukraine. We were talking about Baltic States.
>it's not because it's larger and more modern than WW2 russia.
It's smaller. You know, Soviet Union dissolved already.
>more nonsense
You vastly overrate Russia. In WW2 Russians fought for their survival. Today no one attacked them. They are the aggressors. Do you think there won't be massive insurgency in every territory conquered by Russia?
And NATO obviously has to stand together if Western world wants to survive. If it turns out those were just empty promises it would mean a total collapse of all American and Western alliances and would encourage China to take Taiwan, build bases near Australia and maybe even invade Japan.
USA will never allow this to happen.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>maybe even invade Japan.
Why though? The only reason I'd invade Japan is to get uncensored JAVs
2 years ago
Anonymous
>JAVs
Why would you want those?
2 years ago
Anonymous
They turn my peepee into a big peepee
2 years ago
Anonymous
Just fap to their cartoons like a normal person, sicko. JAV SUCKS
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Why though?
So that chinks with their micropenises can have sex with gravure idols
2 years ago
Anonymous
>There will be WW3 if Russia attacks a NATO country.
nah, if nobody is willing to commit troops for ukraine, nobody will commit troops for the less important baltics. poland is a different matter. the only difference between the baltics and ukraine is a promise to give "some form of help" in case of being attacked. nobody will risk ww3 for that.
NATO is bluffing when it comes to the baltics and it's very transparent. ww3 will only be joined in case of an existential threat. not fighting for the baltics is NOT an existential threat, claiming that is part of the bluff. NATO would instead have to do some soul-searching and explicitly determine what's worth going to ww3 for and what's not. i think NATO's actual borders are Poland's eastern borders.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>nobody is willing to die for riga
True. However in a NATO-Russo war hardly any westerners would die, Russia is so overmatched that it would be closer to desert storm
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh my oh my I've found you Rigaaa, don't you run from me you lil Rigaaa
2 years ago
Anonymous
how long does it take for NATO to chew through 2 or 3 million men armed with 18k artillery pieces?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Lol, 90% of them will desert.
2 years ago
Anonymous
10% of a 20m basis will still be 2m men in the field.
How are going to supply that many people when you are struggling with supplying far fewer than that?
by switching to war economy. again, the soviets could supply 3m men in 1942. unless you're telling me that they had more trucks back then than russia has right now or can acquire right now on the global market.
and all of that ignores the issue that if the war becomes industrial and the west starts supplying ukraine on an industrial scale, the russian PUBLIC will demand nuking western ukraine to cut off supply routes instead of facing mass casualties among their own rank.
the situation of ukraine is fricking hopeless.
and that was my biggest reservation against supporting ukraine all along. we're pushing them into a fight they cannot win and that's disgusting.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Black person Russia doesn't have an industry that Soviet union had, it was stolen/destroyed back in the 90s, and it's not something you can create out of thin air.
2 years ago
Anonymous
they have the raw materials and the manpower available to do it. ukraine does not. and that brings back my point: if russia goes industrial scale, so must the west or it's game over. if the west does, western ukraine will be turned into a nuclear wasteland through which no goods are coming forth and NATO will not start ww3 over that. people are sitting in their homes and don't want to die for ukraine.
and that's why i think ukraine's situation is hopeless and the west is complicit in feeding those ukrainian men into the thresher.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>if russia goes industrial scale
You really think NATO will allow Russia to exist with its current borders? There will be color revolutions up the ass
2 years ago
Anonymous
>putin will be toppled any minute now
morons overlook that it's not in russians interest to be surrounded by rival (NATO) troops under any form of government. their self-determination is at stake.
and that is washington's crime: they've navigated everyday russians into a sutation where they have to choose between ukrainian sovereignty and russian self-determination.
2 years ago
Anonymous
How are going to supply that many people when you are struggling with supplying far fewer than that?
2 years ago
Anonymous
About three months
2 years ago
Anonymous
Also, 18k artillery pieces? Europe alone has like 1k 4.5th gen fighters, men or artillery are irrelevant
2 years ago
Anonymous
"nato" i.e. america and international israelitery, are why the ussr was even able to survive the 1940s, you moron. who do you think kept the third reich from defeating russia?
2 years ago
Anonymous
There wasn't any NATO in WW2. Also, I'm not a fan of the Third Reich.
2 years ago
Anonymous
idiot. nato is just a rebranding of the american occupation and victory in europe. nato exists because the third reich was destroyed >Also, I'm not a fan of the Third Reich.
no shit
2 years ago
Anonymous
NATO was created after the war in 1949. I don't care about alternative history or neo-nazi rambling. What you say is irrelevant to the discussion.
2 years ago
Anonymous
dumb hohol, the ussr was only able to expand because the liberal powers you worship joined forces with the ussr to destroy germany. nato is a product and extension of the american victory in ww2. this is not alternative history, it's mainstream accepted fact
2 years ago
Anonymous
>this is moron making fun of you for falling for Russian propaganda
2 years ago
Anonymous
The allies built Russian factories, helped the USSR against anti communist rebels, fed the USSR grain during the entire food war at a discount, and gave Russia half of Europe
How does it feel to support literal losers getting absolutely BTFO? All because you think you're owning the libs by backing literal vatBlack person subhumans?
>200k russians vs 600k to 1m ukrainians >ukrainians have 10+ production years' worth of american javelin ATGMs > russia has a mobilization basis of ~20m, so fights currently with about 1% of it >OMG LOOK AT ALL THOSE RUSSIANS GETTING BTFO'd SO EASILY
people talk of war yet have no understanding of it
what's noble about handing a weakling some brass knuckles and urging him to fight a musculous bully? if the weakling gets beat into a bloody pulp, you share part of the responsibility for that. kennedy didn't fight for the freedom for east germans. nobody lifted a finger for the freedom of east europeans over decades. this feckless generation right now prioritizes human rights over peace and will in the end lose both.
they're fighting with 200k men against 600k to 1m men but could and do ramp up against a country a third of their size.
2 years ago
Anonymous
maybe they shouldn't have invaded?
2 years ago
Anonymous
then ukraine would have joined NATO and EU and both organizations would have found it much easier to pressure Russia in the future. no Russian government can let that happen. is it moral? no. is it to be expected? yes. if people have to choose between other people's freedom and their own, they choose their own. and no it doesn't matter whether the West would actually do that. it's about potential.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Ukraine must not join NATO >so we have to invade Ukraine so it does join NATO because we provided a reason for it to do so
russians are moronic, huh.
no, it was inept. russia should have mobilized, or at least activated reserves, in early april latest. prep them like ukraine did and then launch a fall campaign, like ukraine did. instead they've been resorting to half-measures, probably for political reasons.
>Russia loses to Finland >Russia loses to Poland >China loses to Vietnam >Russia loses to Afghanistan >Serbia loses to Croatia and Kosovo >China loses to Pelosi >Russia loses to Ukraine
So this is the power of the anti-Western coalition...
The West's strategy >Step 1: make commercials with women and homosexuals to fool Putin into thinking you're weak >Step 2: Putin makes a move >Step 3: beat him and enact regime change in Russia
Reminder that there are hundreds of state funded ukraine shills on Cinemaphile.
"zelensky is based and ukraine is absolutely not a israeli puppet state" is one of their narratives.
USA has already said that if Russia uses even one nuke on Ukraine, they will demolish them with conventional weapons. Black Sea fleet is going to be destroyed, and so will the military bases on Crimea. Russia will have to respond, unless they cuck out as usual, and there's your WW3.
How will Russia recover from this debacle? They lost all their prestige as a superpower, they strengthened NATO and will now get fricked over by the West
simply by defeating ukraine. if russia does that, it will be the first big, historical loss for the USA on the global stage. that should be your cue that Russians won't topple Putin. the counterpart to >Russia will win in 2 weeks
is >Russians will topple Putin in 2 weeks
both are unrealistic
Weet ik
He's a virtue signaling turd.
easy access to twitter and a pulpit to preach from has really exposed a lot of these scum of society actors
>you are not allowed to like the Empire
Ukraine will be a military power will all the shit they are getting from the west and Russia is depleted and stuck with decaying destroyed shit.
Seriously, frick Russia
yeah, but also frick Ukraine, frick the USA, frick NATO and frick the EU.
This. The US is cancer.
Israel is the cancer. US is a puppet.
>you know what? now that russia is losing, I realized I hate every side!
oh /misc/gays
>Now that my israeli overlords told me invasion is bad, f-frick Russia
>what about the Iraq invasion?
>that's different
Kys you hypocritical homosexual
>implying people were not mad about the war in Iraq
nice revisionism
Biden voted for it. I guess sanctions should be put on the US in response.
>let me tell you what happened in America even though I don't live there and I hate it
>gets called out for being a hypocritical b***h
>no counter argument
>resorts to wojack spam
Sad!
>doesn't listen to reason
>resorts to name-calling
>absolutely no arguments
>gets mad at drawings
yup, a vatBlack person alright.
>trys to be morally superior after posting wojacks
Nice try tubby.
You have yet to provide a logical argument. Read the thread again carefully and this time try to get your head out of your ass before doing so. You got BTFO when I mentioned the US' hypocrisy over the Iraq invasion you had to resort to moronic ad hominem arguments about not residing in the US, as if that is any criteria to criticize them. Lmao at your stupidity.
>t.
>can't imagine someone disagreeing with him and not being part of his strawman
crazy how saying you don't care for X means you're defined by a love you never expressed for Y. almost like it's actually a coping mechanism when faced with opinions you can't process into neat boxes like a child
keep coping, b***hes
cope with your mulatto transsexual grandchildren
lol
There's 10 dead Ukrainians to every 1 Russian tho...
>pads his numbers with civies
russian bastard.
>resorts to more crudely drawn cartoons
This would be hilarious if it weren't so pathetic
don't know what that means. anyway, what will you wear at your city's next gay pride parade?
>anyone who thinks the US is cancer is a ruskie
This is some 80s level of "everyone who i don't like is a commie"
You people are as naive and stupid as all those leftist Western commies, yes.
>he says while being spoonfed Western propaganda
Many such cases, israelites are playing both sides against each other as usual
your grandchildren will be mulatto transsexuals
how does it feel that the russian army is losing to transexual redditor liberals? I'd feel pretty bad
lmao
not a russian, so i don't care. again, not everyone who hates you is a russian
Not a russian but you sure are peeved about the fact that Russia is getting it's ass kicked lmao
>not everyone who hates you is a russian
I don't care about what third-worlders think
i literally haven't said anything about russia, only ukraine. keep arguing with the voices in your head, hohol
>don't care about what third-worlders think
Well at least you got one thing correct. No one cares what the US thinks either.
Look at the hypocrisy again. At that time every American bought the whole "WMD" bullshit your moronic President spouted. On the contrary anyone who disapproved of the invasion ( calling it a war is disingenuous) was viewed as a traitor.
Why must they always associate shit that happens in real life with movies for children?
It’s called symbolism, you will learn about it in junior high one day.
Watch better movies you stupid child
what does that have to do with anything
Using star warts as a reference for anything is childish. There are dozens of other movies you could use instead of this proto capeshit flicks.
Stay mad star wars nerd. Your precious films were just tools for selling toys
Do you know what Mark Hamill is most well-known for?
>most
Voicing Joker and playing Luke Skywalker are literally the only things the guy is known for.
He was also did Skeletor for Kevin Smith, which was a disaster.
This is a pretty moronic post, my man.
you didnt see who posted the tweet in OP and made a stupid reply, got called out and emarassed and now are grasping at straws. Am i right? Its an anonymous board, you can pretend youve left the thread
Mark Hamill is most know for playing a character that abandoned his family and friends after he tried to kill a sleeping child of his sister and best friend in his bed.
Reminder all nu wars is homosexual shit
So? Does it make it any less childish or moronic?
And I'm not only talking about Hamill, I'm also talking about the moronic legions of soiwars fans who use the same analogy.
This, mark hamill should have used another movie franchise, one he has zero personnal connection with, to make his point, tgat would have made much more sense
Cuz you're forming symbols with them? you are stupid.
Brainlet retort
How else can they stay relevant?
I mean the prequel trilogy is pretty much inspired by WWII. Remember that one chancellor dude in both?
You're getting it backwards. The childhood brainwashing comes first, followed by real events.
Uhhh is someone gonna tell him that ukrainians are the real nazi??
Kek. What a cringey homosexual. Someone post the tweet where he spams the word GAY a hundred times like an autist.
>may the force be with you in polish
what did he mean by this?
>I am a bismarck
Why is it written in POLISH?
Is is that famous american education?
Ewoks = Viet cong
>Russia is just like the heckin Empire
Uhhh empire was actualy fearsome and powerful…
They got taken out by Ewok's while Russia is getting taken out by a failed state. They are the exact same.
>The Javelin, produced by Raytheon and Lockheed Martin, has gained an iconic role in Ukraine — the shoulder-fired, precision-guided anti-tank missile has been indispensable in combating Russian tanks. But production in the U.S. is low at a rate of around 800 per year, and Washington has now sent some 8,500 to Ukraine, according to the CSIS — more than a decades’ worth of production.
>https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/28/the-us-and-europe-are-running-out-of-weapons-to-send-to-ukraine.html
2 more weeks, chud. Surely now you will use atom.
That would be accurate if the Rebellion had been brutalizing minor provinces on some backwater planet and was full of Imperial Sympathizers.
>"Resist"
>everyone on social media and their mother supports ukraine
I JUST DON'T GET IT.
Lol he’s addressing actual ukrainians firming actual resistence in the actual war you american brained imbecile. Americans should be culled
Didn't ask, thirdie.
maybe you're moronic
It's honestly funny how online brained you are.
>he actually fell for the antiwhite propaganda against ukraine targeted at boomers
Return to reddit Black person brain
You have to RESIST corporate slop, globohomosexual and the alphabet people agenda.
why did he write it in polish and not ukraine? lmao doenst make any sense unless he is implying hohols are polish clay
No one cares about your foreign language dumb esl
https://www.erome.com/search?q=seltin
>Russia
>Empire
Lol. But I can see them getting stomped by teddy bears with sticks.
He is trying to imply that ukrainian language doesnt exist (just like their "nation"). It is written in Polish because Poland and Russia will split Ukraine .
Been following Hamill on social for years, the guy is legitimately braindead.
The analogy in question is particularly idiotic because unlike the Rebels Ukraine is well trained and armed to the tooth, while Russia proved to be massively overrated and comically incompetent, so more like the First Order.
On the ideological side,despite the narrative the western media has been pushing since February, the Ukrainian military is basically one big Nazi larp organization and president Zelensky gave up on fighting after certain military figures literally threatened to hang him. .
Remember when he forced his son's girlfriend to have an abortion?
First, why did he write it in Polish and not Ukrainian?
Second, it's funny because it is Russia which has rebelled against western global hegemony, and it is an underdog. If not for nukes, NATO would already be involved fullscale. But it has to wage a proxy war through Ukraine instead, but the involvement is insane, like nothing else in the past. The sanctiins are unprecedented too. Ukraine is being destroyed in the process, but they never cared about Ukraine, it's just an instrument to them no matter all the propaganda and virtue signaling like this. All the "help" is aimed at war, before the war the West has been plundering Ukraine and every year there was a net outflow of investments. And even if the war somehow stopped now, Ukraine already suffered irreversible and catastrophic economic and demographic damage. EU is done for economically too btw. "To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal"
this is your brain on /misc/
100% accurate?
100% wrong 80% seething 20% rusoid propaganda
>First, why did he write it in Polish and not Ukrainian?
Both are just dialects of Russian anyway.
>underdog
BAHAHAHA we are already on the underdog cope after the decades of russia stronk bullshit, that's fricking hillarious.
Literaly dinduffins on dey way to orthodox mosque.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA holy shit.
Once Ukrainians reach Moskow they should put Putin in a zoo lmao.
Ahhb this pesky NATO and EU, threatening Russia’s sphere of influence by being incomaringly superior options for it’s former vassal states. Russia is justifed in waging a war against Ukraine lest it joins the western world and becomes slightly less of a shithole.
Russia wouldn't be an underdog if the kleptocrats hadn't stolen the funds meant for military improvements, Putin is moronic and probably inadvertently killed anyone who had a spine who would have told him what a shit military he actually had.
We heckin #RESIST the evil Dark Lord Voldeputler! It's just like in my flippin movies y'all!
*joker voice* traaans rights are humaaan riiiights aaahahaaahaaHAHAHAAAAAAAA
>people defending Hollywood liberals
>on Cinemaphile
Moot is rolling in his grave.
Hollywood liberals are just communist wankers, just like russians.
Moot was and is literally a gay troony.
It’s all just getting wag the dog now isn’t it.
>Rightoid Qtards are so far gone they are siding with China and Russia just because it goes against the mainstream
embarrassing
I side with Russia and China cause i hate the great satan
If the mainstream is objectively evil then yes.
/misc/ was never rightoid, /misc/ was always useful idiot farm for whichever astrturf campaign was the most effective at the moment
You don't know anything about /misc/.
Weird, isn't it? Especially since Russia is perfect leftoid paradise.
America is the most degenerate place in the world
Yeah gotta love the fact that Russia is just like San Francisco lol. Frickin idiot.
This is tour brain on /misc/
But I'm from Cinemaphile.
>Leftoid?
Traditional family society that's anti-lgbtetc and with extremely unequal wealth distribution?
>Russia
>traditional family
HAHAHAHAHAHA
How is male buttocks enjoyment related to popular franchises ?
>going to church
lmao
LMAO
Do you really think anyone still does this these days? Fricking christcuck, your israeliteworship is dying out and not soon enough.
calm down larpagan
I can't believe /misc/ would betray israelites like this...
All actors/celebs are just mindless prostitutes that will do anything for money, only morons worship them
Now post reality
>when your only victory is from 6 months ago
sad
You could go out on the streets of America and hold up a flag of another nation, you'd still be in America, moron lol
Seething lol
Holy shit rusbros we won on the map its just like my paradox games
With the numerical and technological superiority on the Ukrainian side, pic related is the opposite of the situation on the ground.
>russia is just EVIL for attacking Ukraine! All because the EU and USA look like superior places to be a vassal state to
How is this any different from USA and europe funding the rebels in Syria because Assad was tight with Russia? It wasn’t for the good of the people. A bulk of the rebels were the same Islamic extremists we were meant to be so against. It was just a power play over regions
Why are we pretending russia has done something new? Only real difference is that russia is weak as shit in comparison and directly annexing things to try and force a ceasefire, lest Ukraine risk “invading” Russian territory. So I’m guessing Putin is risking that the west will stop supplying arms at that point to minimise nuclear risk
Because russians are subhuman asiatic mongrel vermin and eternal pestilence on humanity and any opportunity for their eradication should be celebrated.
To be frank I think that there are scant few redeeming qualities to either side in this war and only support Ukraine because I chat to a guy who lives there and it'd be a shame if he died for this dumbfrick moron war.
>We didn't need Kiev
>We didn't need Odessa
>We didn't need Sumy
>We didn't need Mykolaiv
>We didn't need Kryvyi Rih
>We didn't need Dnipropetrovsk
>We didn't need Kharkiv
>We didn't need Balakliia
>We didn't need Izyum
>We didn't need Lyman
<<<YOU ARE HERE>>>
>We didn't need Svatove
>We didn't need Starobilsk
>We didn't need Lyschansk
>We didn't need Kherson
>We didn't need Melitopol
>We didn't need Mariupol
>We didn't need Luhansk
>We didn't need Donetsk
>We didn't need Crimea
>We didn't need Belgorod
>We didn't need Kursk
>We didn't need Tula
>We didn't need Moscow
>Kryvyi Rih
WTF, you guys really call it that? I thought it was a Russian meme.
Jesus Christ Mykola,
>He still believes taking over Ukraine was ever a goal
Fricking moron lol
Yeah sure, the entire first phase of the war was just a feint.
True, Volodya is playing 7d chess where the endgame is to bankrupt your nation, set it back 30 years in terms of geopolitical podition, and make your people internatoonal pariahs. Truly a master of his craft.
>>He still believes taking over Ukraine was ever a goal
>Fricking moron lol
They hated him because he spoke the truth
He literally annexed 4 regions a couple of days ago.
yeah Black person i just annexed your house
no
no it doesnt matter
i own your house now
i declared it
I annexed Moscow yesterday.
i'm gonna annex your shithole
This
Putin is just trying to assassinate Zelensky to prevent the prophecy coming true
>We didn't need Moscow
hey, it worked in 1812
>annexing things to try and force a ceasefire, lest Ukraine risk “invading” Russian territory
Uhm, I don't think it's working.
Attacking another's land is a declaration of war. Russia has full right to defend themselves.
> another’s land
hahaha,see, about that…
>Attacking another's land is a declaration of war. Russia has full right to defend themselves.
Lyman just fell to the "invader" and the Russians haven't done shit.
Russia lost fricking territory to impoverished shithole, that's so fricking hillarious.
>Annex territories that you don't even fully control
>Say that you will protect them using all means available
>Both NATO and Ukraine say that they don't give a frick
>Lyman falls shortly after that
Uh, vatniksisters?
>Lyman falls shortly after that
To be fair, Lyman held out longer than expected.
>Say that you will protect them using all means available
That wasn't a lie lol
So Ukraine has twin babies that was made by force Jesus?
Yes
Reminder all nu wars is homosexual shit
WTF I love Russia, saviors of the white race now!!!
actors should get treated worse than street hookers.
Any actual Russians ITT?
Question. What's the word on this at home? Russian army hasn't done jack shit in months.
>What's the word on this at home
Do you not have access to the internet? Every Russian male that has the means is fricking off from Russia asap.
Even vatniks are starting to suspect something is wrong, with that entire mobilization business and all.
t. Ivan
They weren't a little suspicious after Putin claimed to denazify a country with a israeli head of state? Or after it turned out that most Ukranians really like having their own nation and don't really want Russia to "liberate" them?
You are underestimating how apathetic and apolitical your average Russian is. As long as shit doesn't affect them directly they don't give a frick and go along with everything propaganda says. Now shit finally got real.
>Ukranians really like having their own nation and don't really want Russia to "liberate" them
This is the definition of Nazism for most Russians.
>Ukranians really like having their own nation
hohols think living in a human trafficking hub ruled by literal israeli gangsters is "having their own nation" lmao
They think it's better than living in Russia
>hohols prefer racial aliens who planned and executed the holodomor over their slavic brothers
hohol intelligence
But those were Russians. Nobody is brother to Russian subhumans as we can see in thks war.
>But those were Russians
hohol moment
>we didn't do it
>they deserved it
>we'll do it again
Never change vatBlack person.
rent free. despite your mania, not everyone who dislikes you is a russian. keep worshiping the people who genocided your ancestors, like the dumb cattle you are
Russians have been genociding my people for generations and some moron in the internet will not change that. I just hope that after we genocide Russia we'll get to internet warriors like you.
>i-it was da russians!! save me nato/israel! i will do anything you ask!
your daughter will be a sex slave in israel. you disgust me and every other european
I will skin you and your whole family alive and force you to watch.
yes we're all familiar with hohol bloodthirstiness and sadism. go torture some more russian children for your israelite masters
>every other european
The other way around, the vast majority of Europeans are impressed with Ukies and physically revulsed with Russian scum. Not that you would know, Nigel from Yorkshire Oblast.
the vast majority of europeans hates america/nato and wants nothing to do with the war, and that majority is only going to increase as winter rolls on
Ah yes I forgot, we're supposed to freeze to death even though everyone including Germany has found other suppliers and has almost full gas reserves for the winter. Really shows you're not just regurgitating Kremlin talking points.
>ncluding Germany has found other suppliers and has almost full gas reserves for the winter
Yeah sure.
Meanwhile there are no streetlights from the Frankfurt airport to the hotel.
>there are no streetlights from the Frankfurt airport to the hotel
WTF I HATE HATO NOW
>the vast majority of europeans hates america/nato
lmao your little communist club is not "vast majority of europeans"
it is.
Why are you describing Russia?
seriously this, we need to stop those heckin ukrainian nazis
>resorting to shopped images as an argument
That's just sad
>comparing Russia to the Empire
Come on now. If Russia was in charge, both Death Stars would have been blown up before the rebel forces even arrived, Darth Vader would have stood in front of Alderaan with Leia for weeks, eventually retreating because Alderaan's defences were just too strong. Their ships would run out of fuel during dogfights and the Emperor himself would only meet Luke at a comically large table.
For all its worth, the Empire was actually rather competent. Russia is not
Why did he say it in polish?
Self-promotion. Every single civilian/private fundraising is self-promotion. No one can raise enough to even buy a quarter of a drone.
Hamill is engaging in virtue signaling cringe but he's right. Russia is pathetic
Putin forgot that Russia loses every... single... solitary war where there isn't somebody to bail them out (Hitler/Allies in WWII; France/Britain/US in WWI; The Coalition in the Napoleonic Wars etc.)
The last 1 on 1 wars they had - Afghanistan in the 80s and Poland in 1919-1921 - they lost.
also the winter war with finland.
Russia won that. They just took high losses
too many low t twitter man say russia voldemort, that mean russia actually good guys, me very smart, me just asking questions, y'know?
Ah yes I seem to remember how the Rebels were supported by the superpowers of the world and the Empire was a collapsing regime with outdated, barely functional tech and corrupt, incapable army. Ok the last bit fits considering stormtroopers.
the only thing gayer than all this political/fictional hero villain signaling is being some /misc/ homosexual who meta games that very same signaling in order to form their political opinions
>Ukraine bad because.....because redditors make references to Harry Potter or Star Wars
>Muh bad guys are the Empire
Didn't they get rid of the Empire like 3 times in the film's, and the new established government eventually becomes a new Empire? What did he mean by this?
Powerful!
In case you haven't paid any attention to him, he's a crazy ass lefty homosexual. That has gotten increasingly worse as everything raises to meet his previous levels.
is hilarious to me how poltard americans went to support the big american patriot trump to support russia and putin just to be contrarian to the end
this people would support china if they made liberals mad
so braindead
It's hilarious how you can't type a coherent sentence while seething so much.
Why would a magapede support Russia? Trump was as anti-Russian as they come.
That's not Ukrainian
This war has exposed the moronation of most "alternative media" pundits.
I mean, Russia does pour a shitload of money into their military. On paper they should be a power to be reckoned. The problem Putin didn't foresee is that 90% of his military budget actually goes on mansions and yachts and Harvard education for officer's kids etc and the real, existing russian military is a ran by aged, bored morons and none of the armor is maintained properly.
>alleged superpower that claims to have world's second best army
>gets btfo'd by a bunch of hohol pig farmers who are led by a literal clown and armed with cold war-era scrap, captured russian equipment and some rocket artillery
Why was everyone so afraid of Russia again?
If this was accurate America / NATO would be the empire but it fits left wing paralogy that the combined economies and forces of the first world would be marginalised. Any other conceptualisation would fill people with anxiety
Cool Television & Film thread.
Unironically, what is Putin's endgame?
At this point? Nothing, NATO will enact regime change and probably foment separatist movements to break up Russia
ukraine's recent gains rest on outnumbering an otherwise superior opponent somewhere between 3:1 and 5:1. it's no coincidence that zelensky publically contemplated that ukraine's basis is (a meagre) 5.5 million men after russia announced activation of 300k to 1m reservists
ramping up production and committing enough troops, thereby forcing ukraine to surrender
It doesn't look like that strategy is working out. Most people don't want to be drafted, so they try to leave the country. Production is probably shit too since a lot of countried are boycotting Russia. Plus, it doesn't look like Ukraine is giving up soon, considering how they are basically marching through Russian lines at this point
Most people can't leave the country for one reason or another. The real problem here is that Russia can't equip and train people they are drafting right now, poor fricks have to buy their own shit. Yes you read that right, you get mobilized and you have to pay for it.
>have to buy their own shit
Come on now. That has to be fake. I fully believe it's possible that there might not be enough equipment but drafted people having to pay for the "privilege"? Not even Russia can be this shit
It's real, it got so bad russian anti-monopoly agency got involved, since shops selling that sort of gear raised prices to ridiculous levels. Apparently equipment that was in storage either rotted away or was sold to aforementioned shops.
Can't the Russian government just buy that gear from the shops directly?
I don't think that shops have that much equipment. You need a frickton of gear to equip that many people, the only option left here is start producing it somewhere, and that requires setting up new production lines which is kinda difficult.
Yes but instead of soldiers having to buy the stuff themselves the government could do it
>Most people don't want to be drafted, so they try to leave the country.
>250k or even 500k men when your mobilization basis is around 20m
you dont understand the dimensions of what russia is capable of. they can lose millions and keep on fighting and winning this war. ukraine cannot afford to lose millions.
>Production is probably shit too since a lot of countried are boycotting Russia
russia is a resource-rich country. it manufactured ~280k mortars and guns in 1942, when german troops stood at the gates of moscow and east of ukraine, at stalingrad. it also maintained a 3m army in the field. in 1942.
>Plus, it doesn't look like Ukraine is giving up soon, considering how they are basically marching through Russian lines at this point
ukraine won't give up unless russia goes all-in or the west refused to scale up to industrial production. given the above numbers, ukraine needs at least 4 figure numbers of mobile artillery pieces and ammunition. if the west commits to that, ukraine will stay in and russia will be forced to interrupt supplies by nuking western ukraine at which point it will be gg
>it manufactured ~280k mortars and guns in 1942
with a callibre of 80+mm, i should add
>it also maintained a 3m army in the field. in 1942
You ever heard of this thing called Lend-Lease?
>2 million battle-experienced russians
They're struggling to mobilise less than a quarter of that right now vatnik, and western armies actually are battle-experienced but unlike yours we have modern equipment that actually fricking works. I'm sure all the NATO tank crews would love to have a go at whatever 70s crap Putin's currently fielding.
>Lend-Lease
sure and it helped because there were few trucks in the country at the time. but there are enough civilian trucks all over russia to supply a 3m army in 2022.
>They're struggling to mobilise less than a quarter of that right now vatnik
and yet they will get there.
>western armies actually are battle-experienced
i LOL'd. you can't say that with a straight face. ukrainians are more experienced by now than overall western armies.
> I'm sure all the NATO tank crews would love to have a go at whatever 70s crap Putin's currently fielding.
most people dont want to go to war. that goes for russians, ukrainians and NATO soldiers. but you know that russia currently only commits material that isn't reserved for a conflict with a major power, do you?
lol, i've been hearing the same shit from the very start of this war. The stupid shithole collapses and you will claim it was part of the plan.
I guess the collapse of the Soviet Union was also planned? I mean, Russia was so strong back then.
SU was absolutely weak economically back then because socialism is shit. and yet kennedy stood at the berlin wall and did nothing because he knew the capabilities of the soviets. now we have generations in the West who don't understand war at all, leading to all the BS talk in this thread here
ukraine will lose, it doesnt have the manpower nor enough guns to win against a russia that's scaling up. and it will be our fault for egging them on.
Sure, sure, Ivan.
No, the Russian public will demand regime change. You know, something that already happened multiple times in Russian history. They aren't robots, this is not your video game.
>No, the Russian public will demand regime change.
you're betting the lives of ukrainians that this happens. you're betting their lives on russians relenting and accepting being partially surrounded by hostile NATO forces and possibly facing ethnic unrest in their own country as their grip is being perceived as slipping. that's not a bet i would take.
i think russians will fight for their continued self-determination. so that nobody outside can tell them what to do or how to live.
Bieng under Russian boot is unironically worse than death so I fully understand Ukrainians.
>Russians
It's not Russians. It's literally just Russian regime. It's not like Russians are free to express their opinion.
NATO is a voluntary organization. All the East European countries joined it because of their fear of Russia. All the organizations created by Russians are either failures like CIS or they were forced on its members by Russian military (Warsaw Pact).
And yet you talk about Russians and their rights to self-determination, lol.
i understand and even sympathize with their desire for self-determination. i just think geography and the geography of power can't be fought. odds are overwhelming. given these circumstances, their best hope would have been a russian colony with a maximum of freedom via negotiation. but that is no longer in the cards because they've been listening to fake friends who were telling them that they can prevail with western help when they can't.
Russia collapses sooner than Ukraine. If Russians somehow take Ukraine you can expect massive insurgency and terrorist actions all over the country.
This is 21st century, you pretty much can't take over a country like that.
>Russia collapses sooner than Ukraine.
within 2 weeks perhaps? topkek
>If Russians somehow take Ukraine you can expect massive insurgency and terrorist actions all over the country.
what are they gonna do? take 600 children hostage and blow them up. been there, done that. it'd only lead to ethnic cleansing with ukrainians being pushed over the border to poland
>blow them up
lol blow them up because of your pathetic """""""rescue"""""" operation
Maybe at some point the military decides to coup your moronic dictator. We can only hope.
the point being that the russian public swallowed all this and won the war in chechnya
if the west is not willing to fight for ukraine now, it won't put up much of a fight when it NATO either. promises are good and fine but when your husband's or your brother's life is at stake, there's gonna be some soul-searching about that promise and how important it really is to keep.
Ukraine has 44 million people, Chechnya 1 million. They also weren't supplied by all the Western powers. And modern Russia has lower GDP per capita than even Romania.
I love how you ignore that NATO has sent billions of dollars' worth of war material to Ukraine
And tens of thousands of mercenaries
That was pure chaos. Even people very familiar with it need help remembering all the factions and major events
Ukraine collapsed months ago. It's 100% funded by the American government down to paying garbage men.
However this conflict shakes out, the damage to Ukraine is already done. A fraction of people will return. It's going to be a shadow of a country. A formality on a map
>And yet you talk about Russians and their rights to self-determination, lol.
yes. because irrespective of government or even form of government, a country cannot let rival countries surround them like that. you risk ending up in a siege. so, even a soviet, a fascist or a theocratic government would have had to prevent that from happening. and that's why hopoing for regime change is hopeless. russians are fighting for other countries not gaining power over them
no foreigner can tell americans what to do. otoh, americans can germans what to do if they want to. so far nobody could tell russians what to do. that is at stake for russians.
they will not relent. and that's why what washington has caused here is a crime.
It already happened in the 90s. It will happen again but on a much larger scale.
nope. losing eastern europe wasnt critical or else the russians wouldn't have allowed it. this is critical for maintainign self-determination. nobody can tell russians what to do, so far. russians are fighting so that it stays that way.
Yeah, yeah, it was okay for the Baltics to become UE and NATO countries. We never cared about those countries!
We can always return to early 17th century when nor Ukraine or Belarus were part of Russian sphere of influence. History still continues. Russia wasn't always this powerful empire.
the point being that with the baltics the west can't pressure russia, as demonstrated now
with the baltics AND ukraine, the next stop is georgia and belarus and then russia starts to fall under washington's thumb
i should add that for the US the kremlin is just a milestone with the actual target being china. with a russian zelensky in the kremlin, we'd see american outposts starting to pop up at china's northern border.
That was a controlled demolition and worked out between the USSR and American israelites. It was methodical and planned
Yeah, and in 1917 it was also controlled demolition and planned.
>It's not Russians. It's literally just Russian regime.
Nah, it's Russians. Every last one of them, in fact.
>No, the Russian public will demand regime change
Even if that weren't a fantasy currently, who would replace him? Putin is more of a dive than he is a hawk in terms of Russian politics.
Change SMO to Total War
Destroy ukie gas/electrcity/water infraestructures before winter and let west ukraine collapse.
If that doesn't work and the comedian really want to take Crimea from the RF, he will nuke west ukraine.
you only need to destroy railways and keep them down, whether by nuclear or conventional means. or, you just put another 10k arty pieces to the frontline, some of them will hit something while they turn all of ukraine in a moon landscape.
the war is on the verge of turning industrial. if the west is not prepared to go that route, ukraine auto-loses. if it is, western ukraine will probably get nuked.
Ukraine will not lose this war and you're completely delusional if you think otherwise. The Russians lost in Afghanistan, they won't be able to take Ukraine.
vietnam and afghanistan were not important to the invading countries. nor was iraq. they could easily afford to collect their toys and go home. ukraine has become an existential issue for russia as moscovites have to fear their entire federation falling apart if their grip on power is perceived as slipping. going home would mean partially being surrounded by a spiteful NATO and having hateful ukrainians at their doorstep. middle-class russians understandably don't want to face this situation but it'll dawn on them.
Fricking western leaders are really playing with fire. They really believe that Pootin is going to surrender to israelitelensky.
When West Ukraine gets nuked, all this "I STAND WITH UKRAINE" meme trending topic is going to dissapear, beacause nobody is going to risk to get their countries nuked, not for fricking Ukraine, a big corrupted shithole beyond salvation.
TWO MORE WEEKS
No, it would most likely lead to WW3, but I doubt even Russians are this stupid.
>No, it would most likely lead to WW3, but I doubt even Russians are this stupid.
nobody is willing to die for ukraine. ww3 will only happen if there is an existential threat to a big nuclear power. nuking proxies is decidedly NOT an existential threat.
that ukraine's cause is absolutely hopeless
Russia is evil.
Nato is evil.
If you disagree with the former you are heartless, if you disagree with the latter you are a naïve moron.
Nato is based, Russia is cringe.
Naïve moron.
Useful idiot.
That would be you, Nato supporter.
Nah. I know history well enough to not trust Russians.
I don't trust Russians either. Like I said, if you like Russia you are heartless.
NATO saved Eastern Europe from Russian agression, so I'd rather support them than anyone else.
If the Baltic states wouldn't join NATO when Russia was weak they would end up like Ukraine. And all Russia brings is corruption and misery.
>NATO saved Eastern Europe from Russian agression
Yes. If Ukraine joined in the 90s Putin wouldn't invade it. It's really simple.
And it's pretty obvious that he would try to annex or subjugate Baltic States if they weren't already in NATO and the EU.
Happened with Georgia, with Ukraine,
if there had been a prospect back then of ukraine not being a russian colony but switching to the west, ukraine would have never become a country of its own
>he would try to annex or subjugate Baltic States
yes, if you force russia to mobilize fully, the baltic states will be attacked and conquered and NATO won't be able to stop it because it won't find enough troops to face off 2 or million battle-experienced russians over that piece of land. nobody is willing to die for riga
No, it will lead to WW3. You're completely delusional if you think modern Russia is the same as WW2 Russia.
>nobody is willing to die for riga
That's a foolish assumption as it would dissolve NATO and no one in the West wants it to happen.
>No, it will lead to WW3.
nobody in the west is willing to send their sons and brothers and husbands over there to die for ukraine. that's why there will be no ww3 over ukraine. ukraine will be beat into submission by an opponent that has a larger mobilization basis and defense industry that can scale up.
> if you think modern Russia is the same as WW2 Russia.
it's not because it's larger and more modern than WW2 russia. they only have to do a 10 or 20% production effort of WW2 to hopelessly outgun ukraine.
>That's a foolish assumption as it would dissolve NATO and no one in the West wants it to happen.
i can tell you the amount of dead soldiers that germany is willing to bear for that fake promise is quite limited. instead, there would be calls asking who admitted these countries into NATO and why. plus, article 5 does not specify any specific response required. a protest note or a token effort satisfy the treaty.
washington has been foolish and if russia fully mobilizes the jig is up. people don't want to die for other people's empty promises
There will be WW3 if Russia attacks a NATO country. I never said anything about Ukraine. We were talking about Baltic States.
>it's not because it's larger and more modern than WW2 russia.
It's smaller. You know, Soviet Union dissolved already.
>more nonsense
You vastly overrate Russia. In WW2 Russians fought for their survival. Today no one attacked them. They are the aggressors. Do you think there won't be massive insurgency in every territory conquered by Russia?
And NATO obviously has to stand together if Western world wants to survive. If it turns out those were just empty promises it would mean a total collapse of all American and Western alliances and would encourage China to take Taiwan, build bases near Australia and maybe even invade Japan.
USA will never allow this to happen.
>maybe even invade Japan.
Why though? The only reason I'd invade Japan is to get uncensored JAVs
>JAVs
Why would you want those?
They turn my peepee into a big peepee
Just fap to their cartoons like a normal person, sicko. JAV SUCKS
>Why though?
So that chinks with their micropenises can have sex with gravure idols
>There will be WW3 if Russia attacks a NATO country.
nah, if nobody is willing to commit troops for ukraine, nobody will commit troops for the less important baltics. poland is a different matter. the only difference between the baltics and ukraine is a promise to give "some form of help" in case of being attacked. nobody will risk ww3 for that.
NATO is bluffing when it comes to the baltics and it's very transparent. ww3 will only be joined in case of an existential threat. not fighting for the baltics is NOT an existential threat, claiming that is part of the bluff. NATO would instead have to do some soul-searching and explicitly determine what's worth going to ww3 for and what's not. i think NATO's actual borders are Poland's eastern borders.
>nobody is willing to die for riga
True. However in a NATO-Russo war hardly any westerners would die, Russia is so overmatched that it would be closer to desert storm
Oh my oh my I've found you Rigaaa, don't you run from me you lil Rigaaa
how long does it take for NATO to chew through 2 or 3 million men armed with 18k artillery pieces?
Lol, 90% of them will desert.
10% of a 20m basis will still be 2m men in the field.
by switching to war economy. again, the soviets could supply 3m men in 1942. unless you're telling me that they had more trucks back then than russia has right now or can acquire right now on the global market.
and all of that ignores the issue that if the war becomes industrial and the west starts supplying ukraine on an industrial scale, the russian PUBLIC will demand nuking western ukraine to cut off supply routes instead of facing mass casualties among their own rank.
the situation of ukraine is fricking hopeless.
and that was my biggest reservation against supporting ukraine all along. we're pushing them into a fight they cannot win and that's disgusting.
Black person Russia doesn't have an industry that Soviet union had, it was stolen/destroyed back in the 90s, and it's not something you can create out of thin air.
they have the raw materials and the manpower available to do it. ukraine does not. and that brings back my point: if russia goes industrial scale, so must the west or it's game over. if the west does, western ukraine will be turned into a nuclear wasteland through which no goods are coming forth and NATO will not start ww3 over that. people are sitting in their homes and don't want to die for ukraine.
and that's why i think ukraine's situation is hopeless and the west is complicit in feeding those ukrainian men into the thresher.
>if russia goes industrial scale
You really think NATO will allow Russia to exist with its current borders? There will be color revolutions up the ass
>putin will be toppled any minute now
morons overlook that it's not in russians interest to be surrounded by rival (NATO) troops under any form of government. their self-determination is at stake.
and that is washington's crime: they've navigated everyday russians into a sutation where they have to choose between ukrainian sovereignty and russian self-determination.
How are going to supply that many people when you are struggling with supplying far fewer than that?
About three months
Also, 18k artillery pieces? Europe alone has like 1k 4.5th gen fighters, men or artillery are irrelevant
"nato" i.e. america and international israelitery, are why the ussr was even able to survive the 1940s, you moron. who do you think kept the third reich from defeating russia?
There wasn't any NATO in WW2. Also, I'm not a fan of the Third Reich.
idiot. nato is just a rebranding of the american occupation and victory in europe. nato exists because the third reich was destroyed
>Also, I'm not a fan of the Third Reich.
no shit
NATO was created after the war in 1949. I don't care about alternative history or neo-nazi rambling. What you say is irrelevant to the discussion.
dumb hohol, the ussr was only able to expand because the liberal powers you worship joined forces with the ussr to destroy germany. nato is a product and extension of the american victory in ww2. this is not alternative history, it's mainstream accepted fact
>this is moron making fun of you for falling for Russian propaganda
The allies built Russian factories, helped the USSR against anti communist rebels, fed the USSR grain during the entire food war at a discount, and gave Russia half of Europe
>being unbiased is now a useful idiot
Lol lmao
You aren't unbiased. You just don't know East European history.
Good goy. Here's more Western propa- I mean media for you to consoom
Thanks, I like my media. What has Russia to offer again?
murdering anyone who dares to lay siege on them
You get to have a drunk ugly wife in the year you have before you are send to die in a hopeless war or get hit by a car.
He asked about Russia, m8. Not the US
US is the same expect you have no wife or she divorces you.
>thinking NATO is cringe means you must support Russia
The absolute state of millennials
>Nato is based
Worst take in the entire thread and more pathetic than Russians defending Putin
That he’s a gigantic leftist homosexual and virtue signals about a country he never gave a shit about before it became the new woke hotness
>make a film thread
>shot by the mods
>someone makes a /misc/ bait thread
>soon to reach bump limit
the current state of Cinemaphile makes me so sad
So who really is winning?
Shills and people with biases need not apply(both russian and western)
lockheed-martin, ukroboronprom, analog devices, texas instruments, almaz-antey
Mark Boczek is a proud Polish nationalist
He supports the CURRENT THING!
Well imagine my shock.
since when did "Resist" become the thing to say instead of "Rebel"
u mad?
I've already fricked bunch of petite Russian refugees, with a condom of course. They were cheap as hell
To all the Russhills ITT:
How does it feel to support literal losers getting absolutely BTFO? All because you think you're owning the libs by backing literal vatBlack person subhumans?
>200k russians vs 600k to 1m ukrainians
>ukrainians have 10+ production years' worth of american javelin ATGMs
> russia has a mobilization basis of ~20m, so fights currently with about 1% of it
>OMG LOOK AT ALL THOSE RUSSIANS GETTING BTFO'd SO EASILY
people talk of war yet have no understanding of it
>people talk of war yet have no understanding of it
but enough about russia supporters
what's noble about handing a weakling some brass knuckles and urging him to fight a musculous bully? if the weakling gets beat into a bloody pulp, you share part of the responsibility for that. kennedy didn't fight for the freedom for east germans. nobody lifted a finger for the freedom of east europeans over decades. this feckless generation right now prioritizes human rights over peace and will in the end lose both.
ok? what does this have to do with russians getting slaughtered?
they're fighting with 200k men against 600k to 1m men but could and do ramp up against a country a third of their size.
maybe they shouldn't have invaded?
then ukraine would have joined NATO and EU and both organizations would have found it much easier to pressure Russia in the future. no Russian government can let that happen. is it moral? no. is it to be expected? yes. if people have to choose between other people's freedom and their own, they choose their own. and no it doesn't matter whether the West would actually do that. it's about potential.
>Ukraine must not join NATO
>so we have to invade Ukraine so it does join NATO because we provided a reason for it to do so
russians are moronic, huh.
>we lost
>that was the plan
7D chess
no, it was inept. russia should have mobilized, or at least activated reserves, in early april latest. prep them like ukraine did and then launch a fall campaign, like ukraine did. instead they've been resorting to half-measures, probably for political reasons.
I hope Putman won't send all those rutracker seeders to the front.
>Russia loses to Finland
>Russia loses to Poland
>China loses to Vietnam
>Russia loses to Afghanistan
>Serbia loses to Croatia and Kosovo
>China loses to Pelosi
>Russia loses to Ukraine
So this is the power of the anti-Western coalition...
B-B-B-B-BUT VIETNAM
BUT AFGHANISTAN
PLEASE DIVERT YOUR ATTENTION TO AMERICA
loses to Vietnam
Didn't America also lose to Vietnam?
Christ, what a relentless NPC. Every neoliberal cause is taken up immediately and without hesitation.
The West's strategy
>Step 1: make commercials with women and homosexuals to fool Putin into thinking you're weak
>Step 2: Putin makes a move
>Step 3: beat him and enact regime change in Russia
Based. God bless America!
Reminder that there are hundreds of state funded Russian shills on Cinemaphile.
"Putin is based savior of the white race" is one of their narratives.
Reminder that there are hundreds of state funded ukraine shills on Cinemaphile.
"zelensky is based and ukraine is absolutely not a israeli puppet state" is one of their narratives.
+15
>+15 hohols dead for israeli power
nice
> it would most likely lead to WW3
When will the nukes start flying, who is going to help Ukirane?
Estonia?
Finland?
Latvia?
Lithuania?
Poland?
USA has already said that if Russia uses even one nuke on Ukraine, they will demolish them with conventional weapons. Black Sea fleet is going to be destroyed, and so will the military bases on Crimea. Russia will have to respond, unless they cuck out as usual, and there's your WW3.
when will you fragile white incels accept you have lost
everyone hates you
you have no future
>when will you fragile white incels accept you have lost
>everyone hates you
>you have no future
consume product
vs
be poor, die of aids or alcohol poisoning, gets raped
I'd rather consume product.
How will Russia recover from this debacle? They lost all their prestige as a superpower, they strengthened NATO and will now get fricked over by the West
>will now get fricked over by the West
And China.
simply by defeating ukraine. if russia does that, it will be the first big, historical loss for the USA on the global stage. that should be your cue that Russians won't topple Putin. the counterpart to
>Russia will win in 2 weeks
is
>Russians will topple Putin in 2 weeks
both are unrealistic
>simply by defeating ukraine
Not gonna happen. Russkies are losing bigly and they can't mobilize enough men.
>Russkies are losing bigly
Yeah sure. Waiting for ghost of Kiev 2.0
I support Ukraine but I hate celebrities using every political event as a way to stay relevant and circlejerk.
Almost every single post itt is completely and utterly offtopic.