I just had a dream where Omniman stomped my OC. Hes basically like Immortal but can also dimension jump. He never dimension jump during the fight the though. How can I make my OC strong enough so my subconscious thinks he can atleast give Omniman a run for his money?
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That's the neat part, you can't.
This. Sorry OP, but your OC is a chump
/thread. He's basically the western Saitama
What
dyslexia is a serious problem,isn't it?
Thragg begs to differ
Hit harder or just straight up rupture his eardrums so he loses his sense of balance.
>my OC
See that there is your problem.
If you want to something right, you have to do it yourself.
>Immortal but can also dimension jump
Oof too weak. The best way to beat omniman would be to pull him into another dimension and leave him there while you figure out how to finish him off.
That trick didn’t work on mark, so it definitely won’t work on his father.
Bonk him on the head, then poke him in the eyes, and finish him off with a pie to the face.
Has worked for me every time so far.
>His OC can't even beat Omniman
a honest question, can Luffy in his current powerlevel in manga defeat Omniman?
No clue, I havent read all 5000 volumes of One Piece.
It only has 102.
No
explain
He flew around the speed of light and commited genocide in like 20 seconds, literal planet buster
He can just drop Luffy in the fricking ocean anyway
>He flew around the speed of light and commited genocide in like 20 seconds
You mean when he got into that portal for the dimension where time flows much more slowly than here?
If them going to earth makes them age fast, someone from this dimension going there would age much more slowly.
If by the end of his rampage he had long hair and a beard, it means that at the very least it took him a couple of months (in case he aged at a regular rate), likely years (since he would've had to age much more slowly).
And he didn't even destroy the planet. You can see them rebuild in the last episode.
Ok but omni-man still wrecks
Luffy can't touch Nolan while Nolan has hundreds of ways to kill Luffy
He's some kind of cartoon rubber god now, right? Maybe he can tank all punches with that quasi-toon force but i doubt he can breathe in space
In G5 he tanked Kaido’s hits but still coughed up blood
Luffy has always been resistant to blunt force and is stronger than ever
In One Piece universe: yes.
In Invincible universe: no.
isn't luffy instantly defeated if you just drop him in the ocean?
I think Omni man is physically stronger however Luffy has faster combat speed and is immune to blunt.
It depends whether Luffy can hurt him and I would say yes.
Depends. If Omniman can chuck him into space or underwater he wins. If Luffy can figure out that Viltrimites are weak to sound based attacks and use his toon powers to exploit that weakness than Luffy wins. Just depends on what happens first.
Easy, just give him a power without a Manton limit. Something like being able to manipulate temperature. Nolan may be physically invulnerable, but he has zero answer to having every drop of fluid in his body frozen solid, or instantly boiled.
If that fails, just remove the Manton limit on his teleporting power so that he can just teleport a rail spike into Nolan’s skull. There’s plenty of powers that ignore durability outright.
You'd need a character who's A. Strong enough to hurt him and B. Can heal fast enough to keep hurting him.
Something like Lobo
Or just be too damn invulnerable for him to injure.
Like Superman.
Lobo loses as that'd be funny.
ENTER
Now this would be an interesting fight. Current Garous could win, he has the speed and literal nukes for punches.
>could
not even a debate, current Garou would curbstomp him, why is Omniman even wanked that much here when he's not even the strongest viltrumites ? Thragg exist, and i'm pretty sure Conquest has big chance to win over him and no Mark killing him doesnt mean anything Mark at this point could have probably killed Nolan too if they werent blood related.
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Just have a power that completely bypasses physical concerns like strength or speed or damage. If you answer to fighting Onmiman is 'hit HARDER', you are setting yourself up to lose because thats what he's good at.
Things like mind control, transforming your opponent in some way, or any number of other instant fight enders can do the trick.
For example, there is a minor one-off villain in Tiger and Bunny whose power is that he can bring things to a perfect stop instantly. All motion and energy in the target ceases to exist. This gets used to stop bullets, yes, but it also instantly kills people because it stops their heart, it stops all of the blood in their veins, it stops every electric charge running up and down their nervous system. Every biochemical process in their body, down to the cellular level, becomes frozen. Again someone with a power like this, Omniman would fly into the guy fast enough to crack the planet into gravel and would not only do no damage, his lifeless body would crumple to the ground a couple seconds later. He would never even have time to register that he had been beaten.
>Things like mind control, transforming your opponent in some way, or any number of other instant fight enders can do the trick.
There is a limit to that. Atom Eve attempted to transmute Conquest and it was a minor incontinence to him.
Yeah, but thats an asspull. There no logical reason that should be true. If you can reshape matter on a whim, and your enemy is *made of matter* (most are) the only reason that fails to be an instant fight ender is author fiat extending the fight artificially.
If the author decides that nothing is ALLOWED to beat the bad guy until the proscibed time and thus makes him have immunity to everything, even the things that should kill him, that doesn't make the powers weak. That makes the author a hack.
Dunno why you are surprised by this. If your body is durable enough, you should at least be capable of resisting transmutation attempts on you.
>If your body is durable enough, you should at least be capable of resisting transmutation attempts on you.
Nope. Durability is a function of the composition and structure of your matter. If an enemy has the power to reshape matter, that stops being true. Hydrogen and iron and zinc and shit don't become *special* just because they are inside a viltrumite as opposed to a sandwich, matter manipulation operates at such a small scale that everything that makes a viltrumite impressive no longer matters. Biology is a function of chemistry, if you can alter chemistry directly nothing in the biology has a chance to apply, the the same way that quality of the dialog in your film doesn't matter when I can go in and randomize the frames and audio.
Everything you said pertains the way matter works in the real world.
For Viltrumites to be the way they are, they can't be made just by normal matter, as a body made out of ANY kind of matter wouldn't be enough to explain their feats.
Their powers can't the product of their particular arrangement of atoms and whatnot. There has to be something more. Either some special kind of matter that exists in the Invincible universe, or some kind of supernatural force, or whichever asspull the writer decides it makes sense.
Counter example, viltrumites are canonically made of "smart atoms" which explains away their supernatural properties. They are a form of atoms that can "remember" their states in relation to both their users and their environment capable of extraordinary self-encoding feats atomic levels to react to any changes in that environment. For example, atoms in a muscle can ensure that the molecules behave normally even under extreme forces. Or atoms in the air can be forced to maintain their relative positions, thus acting like an impenetrable wall. These atoms are also able to extract "Background energy" or "vacuum energy" as their source of energy. This means that since their composition is tied to a certain state, viltrumites would be resistant to transmutation or matter restructuring
>smart atoms
Thats the dumbest shit I've ever heard of, wtf? Why couldn't the hero Invisible just have his atoms remember to not be beat up and bleeding everywhere?
How can their bodies grow if their atoms remember a single state they are "supposed" to be in?
Maybe through their genetics or something they can induce change in their state gradually over time.
They can certainly cut their hair (which is just as resistant to attacks as the rest of their body) and groom themselves, so this state isn't 100% immutable in all cases.
The real question is how they can be alive at all. A rock can be immutable and indestructable due to its atoms being resistant to change because a rock doesn't have to do anything. A living body can't be static, however, all of its atoms have to constantly be being moved around, changed, broken down and built back up into other things. How does a smart atom know that having its atomic bonds be broken by respiration to keep the blood cells alive is okay, but having its atomic bonds be broken by fire or atomic manipulation is verboten? If it was just unchanging and immutable by nature, viltrumites would fricking die.
>matter manipulation operates at such a small scale that everything that makes a viltrumite impressive no longer matters
That's how shit works irl, but fiction writers don't give a fig about that. It's far from uncommon for characters to just facetank offense that should have been operating on too fundamental of a level to counter with their powers (and it doesn't apply only to atomic manipulation, but also to even more fundamental shit like spacetime manipulation or outright reality warping). You can assume that these beings are made of some special matter with, say, much stronger electromagnetic bonds between atoms and/or strong force attraction between protons and neutrons in nuclei (so the transmutation failed because it wasn't designed to work with non-standard matter). Or that their bodies are covered in a field that doesn't consist it of matter (but rather out of energy or magical aura or whatever) that interferes with transformation (or makes it useless - like when Vegito was turned into candy by Buu, but kept his power and consciousness and just resumed kicking his ass).
That's like saying a really tough example of a species made out of sugar should be able to resist being dissolved in water.
But Omni man isn't just extremely durable. He's magically durable.
>If the author decides that nothing is ALLOWED to beat the bad guy until the proscibed time and thus makes him have immunity to everything, even the things that should kill him, that doesn't make the powers weak. That makes the author a hack.
This is basically how Dragon Ball fight work. This is the problem with "Death Battles". The morons that say Goku or Saitama can take out the DC or Marvel Universe are ignoring how the character works in the setting. Batman can unironically take on Goku (not in uncharacteristic battle to the death that neither characters would do) because Goku is pretty much the peak of battle tactics working in the Dragon Ball setting and Goku is literal moron. If you think that any Dragon ball character isn't dumb enough to fall for a specific plan, you are wrong.
nice planet batman
allow me to blow it up
>Still lost to Goku and Trunks because he didn't open with that.
What reason would he start out by blowing up the planet when never ever did that?
Frieza only did that because he wanted to humiliate Goku first by murdering all his friends. Blowing up the planet from orbit wouldn't satisfy his sadism and desire for revenge.
Indeed, t'was hubris sealed his fate
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Because he's a petty bully. He doesn't want to WIN, he wants to make other people lose and suffer while they do.
The problem isn't with "Death Battles". The problem is when you have to separate franchise that are so far a part that it seems ludicrous for both characters to win or lose. This comes into why clearly stating feats and stats are important because it bridges the gay between the people who aren't the knowledgeable on Green Lantern or Ben 10 for example. The bigger concern with DB is their shitty reasoning in the end at times, most of the time these could be easily explained if they just clearly stated in the feats or seemingly forgot to mention it. For example, the only reason why people were ban for GL winning was because they were told/confirmed that Ben had the ability to basically thanos snap instantly. Now imagine telling the same people, well GL can actually undo all of that at the end? Though this is getting to deep in DB critiques.
>Batman v Goku
Goku would beat batman if we're talking purely on a physical level. Batman may put up a fight, but Goku's experience with Martial Arts and MMA. The problem with, "Goku's a dumbass" isn't really true, Goku like most MC in shounens are oblivious, not dumb. This explains why when moments are serious or tense they seemingly jump in IQ when really they started to take things serious. Though even if Goku was dumb, if it revolves around fighting than he's pretty smart.
My biggest complaint is that you're putting Batman against a guy who literally does Jeet Kune Do x100 and the chance of losing in this state are incredibly low here
itthink the actual problem of a death battle
is what the reason for the characters to actually fight to the dead while staying in character
i cant see goku having a death battle with basically no one....
he didnt kill vegeta, he felt sad by finishing freezer even after he let him live etc
superman usualy falls into the same too good to kill
unless you use a non canon version and duuh im evil superman deeerp
>"Goku's a dumbass" isn't really true, Goku like most MC in shounens are oblivious, not dumb. This explains why when moments are serious or tense they seemingly jump in IQ when really they started to take things serious. Though even if Goku was dumb, if it revolves around fighting than he's pretty smart.
I wasn't necessarily saying that Goku is dumb. I was saying that he never allowed to fight anyone smarter than him in the Dragon Ball Universe. If Toriyama is writing it, he would do the "Character oblivious to how strong Goku is and left in shock. Goku is oblivious to that character's malicious intent." joke with Batman. Batman could just drug him like Bulma did early in the manga. The moronic Dragon ball fans also say stupid shit like Goku being able to take on the Nasu-verse. Goku won't lose in a fair fight defined in terms of Dragon Ball but he really shouldn't get to keep his plot armor.
Also, Batman would likely tranquilized him like Merus did.
but why would they fight on the first place?
Because Batman is a paranoid idiot and would think that he's too dangerous or something.
based on what?
he eating alot?
Based on the fact that Goku is significantly more powerful than Superman.
Fricking cap no hes not, goku is a b***h who got clapped by jiren
Jiren would had fricked Superman up too now that you mention it.
even if goku is teleported into dc earth fighting some foe
unlike superman goku always push fights AWAY from cities
>goku always push fights AWAY from cities
Goku let Piccolo completely level Papaya island just because he didn't want to leave the tournament grounds and lose the title. All the fights after that conveniently happen in the wilderness until Android 20 who again completely destroys that city.
This is the problem with talking to Dragonball fans. You don't even know your own story
Batman isn't fast enough to do that to Goku unlike Toyotaro's shitty OC.
And the guys that were robbing Goku's truck were? Dragon Ball was never consistently written and DBS is even worse. Future Mai was able to save Goku by using tear gas on Goku Black and Future Zamasu.
>he wanted to humiliate Goku first by murdering all his friends. Blowing up the planet from orbit wouldn't satisfy his sadism and desire for revenge.
And he would suddenly not act like that in the DC Universe because?
Viltrumites have some sort of technobabble hax related to their personal strength and durability, if I remember right. Kind of like the thing with Kryptonians but I can't remember the specifics.
All superpowers come from smart atoms in invincible (or magic, but there’s only one character who gets them from magic so it’s not really important), vultrumite dna is so complex using smart atoms that they’re the strongest
right that was it
fricking smart atoms
>minor incontinence
She made him poop himself just a little? Or was it a Prarie dog situation?
Stunned Conquest a bit. But Conquest was still strong enough to stop Mark's punch and break his hand.
Anon, the word you are thinking of is inconvenience. Look up the word you used
>Instant 100% entropy powers
Wouldn't that literally make you fricking disappear because the actual atomic forces binding you together are now null?
>My character that I created with any powers with any limits is unable to defeat a real comic character
You have a shit imagination anon.
I think ghost types tend to be overlooked in this scenario.
>no amount of speed or sheer force can effect them if they can just turn intangible
>if the ghost could overshadow omniman, they would possess all of his strength
>simply use omniman's own strength to snap his own neck
Do you really think Ghost freak or Danny could physically overpower Omniman?
Given that Luffy unlocked "Gear 5th" and basically got Buggs Bunny/Creative Mode on, it'll either be a draw most likely. The only way Omniman wins is by waiting for Luffy to power down, if they go at it constantly, Luffy would probably edge out
Yes, but he found ways to beat this loophole (seriously this guy is a fricking hack lol). He can just go Gear 2 and basically just repel himself off the water due to his speed or use Gear 4 and literally fly short amounts
This, but I highly doubt they'd fight in Space or Luffy getting dropped in water
If this was pre-timeskip Luffy then sure, but Luffy has 3 haki.
Observation (he can basically see really well and relatively recently has unlocked the feature to fricking predict multiple moves ahead)
Armament (can harden an part of his body and basically allow luffy to send air wave punches)
Conqueror (Basically allows someone to subdue anyone with their will. If you have a stronger will, you have the ability to resist or get affected a little bit)
Cinemaphile vs Cinemaphile is always a 50/50 for fair fights or just hacks to win
>Do you really think Ghost freak or Danny could physically overpower Omniman?
That's not the point of what the Anon is saying.
>Danny goes intangible
>Omniman's steel shattering blows completely whiff
>Danny casually strolls into Omniman's body and possesses him
>Reaches up, and snaps Omniman's neck with his own hands
>Stroll out of Omniman's lifeless corpse fresh as a daisy
>That's not the point of what the Anon is saying.
I know, I'm just asking since of picrel, I don't really know a lot of ghost based characters
>greentext
Why do you assume that Danny would be able to over power him? IIRC from the show, there were times ghosts would battle with the owner for control over the body. If you're going to tell me that Omniman would lose control to Danny, then I'd tell you that it would be impossible. Ghostfreak's different since he's more of a ghostly ghoul, I'm not sure how Omniman would handle getting scared by him
If I remember right, battling for control over a body happened when the person knew they were being possessed by a ghost.
If Danny was smart (admittedly a big "If") he coukd get inside Omniman and kill him before Omniman even knew who he was.
Yeah no. All of that is bullshit. Luffy is inferior to Nolan in every way. Nothing Luffy can do if Omni Man dunks him underwater, tosses him across the horizon, sinks whatever island he's on, launches him into space, shoves his head into his ass etc
>Hasn't read OP
I don't know why you think it makes sense to argue for a DB when you don't know what an opponent can do. Not to even mention the chances where any of these might actually happen at all
I have read One Piece. All of those things would kill Luffy and are things Omni Man is capable of. If you disagree use a better argument.
>If you disagree use a better argument.
Simply saying that you think it's not doable and just bring up instant KO's mean nothing for an actual fight. If you think Luffy can't do nothing with his Gears (especially "Gear 5") and Haki, then you don't know what you're talking about. Just keep throwing out cheap shots.
They will do nothing. Luffy is several times weaker than Omni Man. Omni Man has several different methods of murdering Luffy before he can do anything about it. Simply repeating yourself isn't going to change that.
>Luffy is several times weaker than Omni Man.
Where did you even get this from?
>Omni Man has several different methods of murdering Luffy before he can do anything about it
This isn't a fight nor a discussion. Imagine having discussing if Superman and Flash fought who would win? And the other person just says Superman could fly Flash into space and throw him there or just grab him and break all his bones until he dies. These are just cheap shit and makes you seem like you aren't willing to actually think of a scenario where they have to fight
>Simply repeating yourself isn't going to change that.
Just because you don't think it's possible doesn't mean jack at all. Luffy could just use Observation Haki to predict Omniman's next multiple moves and use Gear 2nd and escape them. Or use Gear 4 to clobber him and fight or just use Gear 5 and just toy with him. You're just throwing numbers or moves that wouldn't change anything.
Not that Anon but
>Luffy could just use Observation Haki to predict Omniman's next multiple moves and use Gear 2nd and escape them
He can predict every move in the world but would never be fast enough to react and move out of the way.
>Or use Gear 4 to clobber him and fight
Omni man has tanked hits way above the power that gear 4th can generate
>or just use Gear 5 and just toy with him.
See
and
>He can predict every move in the world but would never be fast enough to react and move out of the way.
This would just open a can of worms of speed feats and how fast each other is? Do you know how fast Omniman is? Or his fastest feat? His two fastest moments (I think) is when he did picrel with his Mark, Thaedus, and a ray beam.
>Omni man has tanked hits way above the power that gear 4th can generate
I was just talking Luffy following his Gear 2nd with straight attacking (whether or not Nolan tanks) since Luffy has multiple moves/combos with it.
>>or just use Gear 5 and just toy with him.
The first tag tells nothing really. I'll admit that Luffy doesn't have proper control, but anon's just replacing Kaido with Nolan here and not really acknowledging the things that changed or the variables placed. What I mean by this is with statements like this:
>Luffy kept getting pummeled by Kaido's blunt hits, which didn't defeat him because of his rubber constitution, but they very clearly still hurt him.
In OP, Kaido has Haki specifically Armament Haki and Conqueror's Haki that he uses to help defeat Luffy or put up a fight with him. Kaidou infuses Conquerors Haki into his weapon and can use Armament Haki to project shit out of his weapon.
or
The fact that by the time Luffy used "Gear 5" he was already incredibly weakened from their fight up to that point so it's weird to assume that this was the best we've got instead of just a weakened version of what could be
or
>Luffy then won by inflating his fist to the size of the island they were on and just simply punching Kaido hard enough to slam him through the earth's crust into magma. An attack that would barely do anything to Nolan.
Luffy inflated his arm to a big enough to size to defeat Kaido with this, I mean it's clear that he purposefully made it big enough to be the size of this island and clobber him. Why wouldn't/couldn't he just tweak for Nolan's case?
Nothing you said was even remotely convincing to me, but I can't be bothered to go point by point with you so I'll concede.
Simply giving out bad reasons or "I don't agree" means nothing but that your argument is nonexistent. You can keep concession and just not respond, have a good one.
All you said is the same
>"but luffy can do X"
And it's all things that are undeniably weake6 than stuff Omni Man has been shown to be completely unbothered by.
Luffy is undeniably extremely strong, but nothing he can do is even close to what's necessary to hurt Omni man.
Like the gear 2 combos (too weak and slow), or how Kaido's haki attacks are supposed to make a difference (when whatever powerup they give him is still far from what Omni tanked easily), or how he could "tweak" his giant punch move to fit Omni man (??? tweak how? it's just a really strong blunt attack, which, even with haki infusion, won't be close to something like the nuke-level Akira laser that he flew through), or how luffy has to win because toon force (which maybe works in the one piece universe thanks to what is basically plot armor, which isn't something you can use here, as I can also say "omni man is going to win because he's written to win", plus nothing says Luffy will never lose again), or how he dodged Pacifista's lasers (he dodged its aim, not the photons themselves, as he at the time was definitely not Kizaru-level fast, which is what he would've had to be to dodge the actual laser).
I'll admit that you're right in saying that he was weakened at the time and that we haven't seen his full power yet, but considering One Piece standards, his full power isn't going to be so high to substantially change any of the above. Sure he might make the fight less one-sided, but the scale in the Invincible universe is so much higher than in One Piece.
Plus, Kaido was weakened (and possibly slightly drunk) too. Maybe more than Luffy considering all the fighting he had been doing (and Luffy had the gear 5 resurrection that restored a lot of vitality in him, and used his power to revitalize himself when he was started looking old and deflated), so one can argue that Luffy's fatigue was cancelled out by the fact that he was being hit with much weaker attacks by a weakened Kaido.
1/2
The problem that I have is that these things were made FOR Kaidou as in he did this specifically for the person he was fighting. So it's weird to ignore that reality and just swap them and proceed. Sure these attacks wont do anything, but they were never for them or hinting at the prospect that this is possibly his best is absurd to me.
>Like the gear 2 combos (too weak and slow)
Typo I meant Gear 4 there
>how Kaido's haki attacks are supposed to make a difference (when whatever powerup they give him is still far from what Omni tanked easily),
You're just doing the same thing I said in my other post with swapping it. This is about acknowledging the variables of that with the specific characters in mind and how it affected Luffy's attacks on him is all
> or how he could "tweak" his giant punch move to fit Omni man (??? tweak how? it's just a really strong blunt attack, which, even with haki infusion, won't be close to something like the nuke-level Akira laser that he flew through),
I don't expect Luffy to KO Nolan with this? It seems like you think I'm just arguing for fast KO's or ultimate moves or something. Like in any other fight characters would use moves to attack each other to further push things in their tide
Kaido is extremely strong and sturdy + he has dragon powers.
Omni Man is extremely stong and sturdy, without the dragon powers, but with flight and super speed.
If Luffy was hitting Kaido with attacks that are supposed to hurt Kaido's very sturdy body, what kind of attack would he use against Nolan's very sturdy body?
If anything, Luffy's techniques that deal with Kaido's dragon powers are unnecessary here, so Omni is ultimately just like the "strong and sturdy" side of Kaido, except much stronger, much sturdier, and much faster (which isn't something you can tweak your attacks for, except just making them stronger and faster).
Meanwhile Nolan as the other Anon said, can easily exploit the widely known weaknedd of DF users to water, and throw him in the ocean, which maybe would be a bit difficult to do with Luffy fighting back, but I really can't see a scenario where Nolan keeps trying to throwing him in the water (or in the sun or whatever) and doesn't eventually manage to do it or gets stopped by Luffy's attack or defense (which based on what I explained above are debatably not enough for Omniman). Especially considering how relentless Viltrumites are known to be.
2/2
Now that you've baited me into spending 30 minutes arguing my point, I'm tired and no longer have any time to waste on this. I genuinely don't give a shit and it's not fun, so I won't be continuing to respond to anything you argue back. Have a good one.
>Unironically seethes into writing a response and wasting time
No one "baited" you, you idiot, it's called a discussion. If you didn't one want one then just don't respond at all, you only have yourself to blame for your tiredness and apparent idiocy. I'm glad you conceded cause at least I know you were shit from the start lol, enjoy yourself now.
I know it's my fault.
Replace "baited" with "induced" or whatever. I got myself into this, and keep doing it, like here
because I can't let go.
That's what I meant. Not that that post was some kind of troll.
I'm going to assume this is you (wouldn't be the first you walked back on yourself). So I'll just say give it up, I'm going to watch House, you can stay here annoyed that someone here disagrees you with lol.
Oh shit, it really is you. For the simple fact that you can't let go (I know how that's like, especially I'll concede for you). Nolan for the fact that Gear 5 is new and we don't know the capabilities. Gear 3 does nothing because of how slow it is, Gear 4 is a tank but there's a cool down. Gear 2 can only help him move and evade. Now you can have a good day (genuinely) and for the record, I don't think you're shit or a troll, I respect ""you"" more that you owned up to not letting go or made a genuine post. Enjoy your day and have picrel of Mark, Oliver and Nolan now
>He can predict every move in the world but would never be fast enough to react and move out of the way.
Also he can react to stuff pretty fast and move out the way, for example
My oc is a transforming robot AI that was sent back to the big bang to protect the earth, and in the billions of years it waited it trained across the galaxy and improved itself into the perfect autonomous being
It could beat omniman
I'm pretty sure omniamn blitz luffy i don't think Luffy has a high AP to do severe damage to him, maybe with gear 5 he can do something but we haven't seen much if it yet.
Raditz stomps
Using DBZ in Death Battle threads isnt even clever or fun, or course Raditz stomps. The fricking baseline power levels of DBZ are planet buster and gets to multiverse buster as it gets stupider.
Its like bringing a nuke to a fistfight
Your oc sounds like a homosexual, glad he got clapped little weak ass Black person
Can Omniman beat Kaiba in a duel?[
but omniman did die though
with fricking sound
literally with a dog whistle
Will he survive if you plunge him into a Sun's molten core or a supermassive black hole?
Give him the ability to go super saiyan. Easy win.
Mark was shown fighting in the middle of a sun for a few minutes. It's not easy for them to survive, but they can do it. A supermassive black hole? Not at all possible.
This. Just make Powerman.
>Mark was shown fighting in the middle of a sun for a few minutes. It's not easy for them to survive, but they can do it.
It was the very surface of the Sun and each dip was fricking him and Thragg up. The latter got turned into fricking ash after a while, and the only reason Mark didn't follow suit was Allen dragging him away.
Just write a character whose shtick is that he can kill any other character because he just doesn't give a frick about the rules of narrative that define who can and can't be killed.
That's what I did.
The only thing that can beat a pureblooded Viltrumite is either another Pureblooded Viltrumite. Or Battle beast.
>His OC can’t even beat Omniman
Fricking lmao
my oc can solo every single universe
but he doenst because hes busy watching vtubers and jacking off
Battle Beast, Conquest, Thragg, and later series Invincible and Allen can solo him. There is also the Space Racer Gun and virus. Then he did nearly die fighting the Guardians going into a coma for days. Had the Guardians not been taken by surprise or have had some members freeze up they could have beaten omni man. Then since he's drank tap water, he would also be susceptible to the light used that made the room and undead androids invisible; and can have his hearing messed with.
Elijah Snow could beat him easily. Just freeze all the fluid in his brain solid. Durability doesn’t mean shit to someone whose powers have no Manton limit.
Why are you using a term that's only applicable to a single setting as if most people here know what you mean?
The term itself is unique to a setting, but the principle is pretty common throughout all superpower/magic fiction.
Since that Anon never did actually define it:
A/The Manton Limit is a term used to distinguish powers and magic that at environmentally effective vs those that are personally effective. For example, the object summoning charm "accio" in Harry Potter can bring objects out of your line of sight to you, but you cannot "accio" a person or injure a person by summoning individual body parts from them.
Luffy doesn't have proper toon force, at least as of the latest chapter.
Even with gear 5 he had a hard time fighting against Kaido whose strength and endurance are a joke compared to Omniman's. Luffy kept getting pummeled by Kaido's blunt hits, which didn't defeat him because of his rubber constitution, but they very clearly still hurt him.
Luffy then won by inflating his fist to the size of the island they were on and just simply punching Kaido hard enough to slam him through the earth's crust into magma. An attack that would barely do anything to Nolan.
Luffy also did things like becoming a giant (not an issue for Omni, as it wasn't for Kaido) and grabbing a lightning out of the sky and zeus-throw it at kaido, who simply dodged it (if Kaido can do that, Nolan can do it in his sleep, or just tank it like he did that Akira laser that was WAAAY stronger than a simple lightning).
>Luffy also did things like becoming a giant (not an issue for Omni, as it wasn't for Kaido) and grabbing a lightning out of the sky and zeus-throw it at kaido, who simply dodged it (if Kaido can do that, Nolan can do it in his sleep, or just tank it like he did that Akira laser that was WAAAY stronger than a simple lightning).
Unironically just become bigger or pull out a Sun type weapon
>Why
A la toon force, which is why its funny and makes Luffy a walking hack
>second tag
Same thing.
Anon doesn't acknowledge that Luffy and Kaido had a long ass fight and now just used G5
How would Superman talk Omniman out of conquering Earth?
Also would Klark be able to survive all of Nolan's attacks?
None of Nolan's tricks work on Supes anyway and he could 99.9% talk him out of it. Also Anissa would get beaten to a pulp by Superman and given a stern talking too, but that wouldn't solve much since now she'll be gunning for his junk.
This is the saddest thing I have ever read in my entire life.
>Thukk!
That's kind of a weird sound effect for this.
Do you guys read sounds as someone saying them literally ("Thukk!" or try to read this what someone getting punched through the chest would sound like?
the only thing I see whenever I see him is JJ jameson
my OC is a guy who can destroy gods with planet busting power, and then he gets god powers to manipulate reality and what not and then he fights gods who even more godly powers
>What does it take to beat Omniman?
The only thing you need is for the writer to choose your character to win, that is the secret of beating invisible characters.
>What does it take to beat Omniman?
A working teleporter and someone willing to turn it off mid-stream or just to teleport half of him away.
Imagine not having an immortal oc who beats omniman by simply annoying him so much he gives up killing him
He’s just a basic brick, anon. All your of needs is some hax or to be a bigger brick.
Well since we're talking about ocs now we'll here's mine
Jackson Jeers an immortal black creature that's immortal and extremely annoying dude works on toob force logic
Good writing.
BADAP BAP BADAP BAAAH!
Alternate question because power levels are only as important as the writer/imaginer makes them: What is an interesting/cool power for an oc to have of they are to beat Omniman/Homelander/EvilSuperman
I just keep getting stuck on fricking flight+energy projection
The power to clean anything they simply clean the evil superman into a good person
Your OC could say "Martha" before being stomped to death.
Omniman would have jobbed to the gardians of the glob if they knew he way evil, he's really not that strong.
He does in the comic on the reboot arc
Why doesn't your boy just use his dimension jump to bow out of the fight and land somewhere he can get prep time and train? Maybe learn more about his powers or Viltrimite weaknesses?
Isnt it interesting that there are few to no powerful psychics in Invincible? I always found it weird that GotG analogue to Martian Manhunter seemed to lack that aspect to him. If he had it, I think it might have actually gone in favor of them. Either way, viltrumites have no special immunity to psionic or viral attacks, and thus just sic any powerful enough psychic to mind wipe or mind control him and he's done.
Didn't the government test all sorts of viruses on that sample they had, concluding that they weren't able to kill viltrumite cells?
If so, their strength extends to viral attacks too.
The Viltrumites were decimated by a virus developed by the Coalition of Planets that killed 90% of them. They are obviously highly resistant but not immune.
Despite this, Im still seeing no one bring up the obvious fact that he's not immune to psionic attacks or the like. Why isnt anyone bringing that up? In which case, several mutants could probably do him in, esp if they caught him off guard. You dont fight someone like Nolan in his own court, you throw something novel at him.
Omniman was only intimidating when he was the big fish in a small pond. He quickly becomes just an old man when other members of his species show up, as well as other beings capable of shredding his species's durability.
Jimmy Neutron could beat him with the cheese ray
At least star level
So we're talking pure strength here? Because reality/physics warping characters could take him out. I haven't read all of Invincible, but I'd bank on a few Jojo characters being able to take him out easily
Could Kenshiro kill Omni-man? Seeing how his style cause one own ki/chi (life force) to kill them?
If a Viltumite has the same basic pressure points as a human, sure. Ken can make muscles eject a skeleton from its own body.
Ken attempting to use pressure points on Omniman would be like a mosquito trying to do chest compression reanimation on you.
Just do what Taylor did to Alexandria. Choke him with bugs.
Viltrumites don't have too breathe for weeks.
copy cat powers. then like hope your oc is smart enough to outsmart him.
>writers block
>another season of walking bad
> bad walking
Leave Omni-Man and all his measly species to Saitama
Cluck cluck (Omni-Man's not worth your time there's a sale down the street on veggies) bacluck
(I'll take care of the alien scum)
Who is this?
Oni from Rooster Fighter a supowered rooster who hates a hatred for bratty children and demons
Is he actually strong enough to b***hslap Omni-Man?
Yes, all he has to do is yell and Omni-Man is dead
>Saitama vs Garou
I wonder how strong Saitama really is, especially given how DB seemingly decided to cap his strength with "generous numbers". Also if Saitama was dropped from the end of his story to the beginning (based on the creators words) how strong is he really and will Death Battle bring him back again?
You watched Omniman die in the comics.
You should know exactly what it takes to kill him.
NTA,but Jesus Christ you're a lover. Unironically get of Cinemaphile if you can't handle internet arguments you autist
I love Internet arguments. I'm just not in the mood now and don't care about this one topic.
I can't want to start multi-hour point-by-point arguments for every disagreement I have online.
If it's to the point where you can't stop and you need to win, you need to unironically seek help. There's more to it than spending 2+ hours arguing, but it's your life, waste it how you please
I don't need to win. I just need to explain myself or make my argument against something I disagree with.
If I see a mistake in my reasoning I always make a point to say I was wrong (something that out of hundreds or thousands of people I argued with over the years, only a couple of people did).
But yeah, it's a major personality flaw and I've been like this since forever. My earliest memory of acting this way was in preschool so I was 5 at most.
read the fricking comics, Omniman is a mid-tier viltrumite
Would Black Bolt be able to take Omni-man if he got the drop on him and just screamed?
Black Bolt would frick Omni-Man up with just his physicals
How did this thread turn into Luffy vs Omni-Man
autism
The real question is:
With the Gear 5 powerup Luffy got instantly more powerful than almost everyone in the OP universe.
So who's still stronger than him?
The other yonkos? The admirals?
Can he beat Garp? Sabo (or Ace basically)? Dragon? Mihawk?
The Gorosei? Imu?
I think he'll eventually surpass all of them but still needs to train his new abilities to be able to fully take advantage of his powers.
Maybe Imu has some kind of hax (Ope Ope immortality recipient?) but the rest?
High tier logias like Kizaru, Aokiji, Akainu, Sabo and maybe Dragon are still tough for him but once his haki is strong enough to solidify them he'll probably stomp them.
Fujitora he can probably beat now by being immune to deformation and making funny gags about it.
We don't know much about Ryokugyu but if he can create plants out of nowhere and use them to suck the life out of his enemies, it can be a serious threat to current Luffy.
Haki monsters like MIhawk, Garp, or Shanks are still out of reach but not by much. No doubt Luffy will surpass them.
Blackbeard's shockwaves will hurt him but won't be enough to beat him, however, his darkness powers are a serious problem. I think he's likely to be his final opponent.
Buggy gets one-shotted alongside his fleet, but if he awakens his fruit he can maybe split atoms, so there's some S tier potential for the future. I don't think he will though (or maybe he will for the lols).
Am I forgetting someone?
I want JJBA matchups. Excluding the shitty powerwank ones like GER and Tusk, but still.
They're always fun to think about since tons of crazy stand powers work on a metaphysical level, but they're also limited by weird activation conditions and being tethered to users that have base human reaction times and durability