DC can just keep doing what they're doing.
He has a top selling solo book, he's anchoring the new Titans series, and as Robin he's featured in both of the World's Finest ongoings.
Dick hasn't had this many ongoing books since Batman: Reborn. He's doing great.
True but his fans don't care about that. Creativity is not why they've stuck to him this far.
Nobody gives a frick about comics. It doesn’t matter if Dick stayed as Batman in the books. If Bruce is Batman in outside media, the average person will associate Bruce with Batman. Only the movies, tv and games based on these characters are what ultimately matters. Comics are just the source for these mediums to pull from.
>Comics are just the source for these mediums to pull from.
And it's always very adapted, for very good reasons.
This
Genuinely surprised how most DC animation crews are allowed to get Starfire and Dick together after DC editorial has been making sure it never happens again in comics
>generic batfamily baby with no powers
Babs is one of the worst choices because them having a baby is just boring, flavorless, and sterile.
At least have the mom of the baby be somebody that provides some sort of challenge or intrigue.
Kory or Kara provides a half alien with powers, Rose provides the drama of Dick’s baby being his archenemy’s grandkid, and Tarantula or any female villain also provides tons of drama and ensures Dick actually keeps one of his villains for once.
What do you mean by groomer? I doubt Devin Grayson wanted to give that impression............oh
Bro, I like Devin Grayson's run more and more, rape, grooming....
She didn't even meet Deathstroke till her mid teens.
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Jason and Rose are both pure pretending not to be.
Jason Todd decapitated eight men, shoved their heads into a duffel bag, and carried it around all night just to be dramatic. Jason is a psychopath.
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>Jason is a psychopath
Just bantz tbh
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Remember when he mowed down a building full of people with a chain gun then stabbed Onyx in the shoulder for the lulz?
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Height of comedy
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>Jason is a psychopath.
Oh come one, my man had just been DEAD and he was souped up on that lazarus pit drank, of course he was insane for a while
Imagine fricking dying and being revived by someone putting you on a crack hotbox, nobody would come out 100% sane
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I would be.
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You take that back, Joey is the purest boy to ever live.
Only after Johns left the Teen Titans books. Johns wrote the girl who was raised in a brothel using her sexuality to get the guys to shield her from the girls that wanted her off the team. Beechen, McKeever, etc., just saw the loose badgirl and that's what she became.
Dick and Rose would provide an interesting dynamic but it'd make Dick look like a groomer.
What do you mean by groomer? I doubt Devin Grayson wanted to give that impression............oh
Bro, I like Devin Grayson's run more and more, rape, grooming....
DC can say that Rose also raped Dick >>No Rose, don't pull my pants down. Oh God, I can't fight back, my superior male strength and fighting ability can't stop a teenage girl from sucking my dick."
Nightwing's popularity and success is the proof DC and Marvel need to realize you can make superhero comics appealing to women without "diversifying" or appealing to the dyed hair squad. Honestly I think it's an absolute win that women are getting hot and bothered for the original Robin in this day and age.
Of all the superhero characters he is the one that suffers the most from comics ultimately being static. He is always going to be defined by his relationship with Batman and he will never escape the Batfamily. It would never happen and maybe it shouldn't but, the only meaningful place to take Dick is having a universe where he permanently takes over the mantle of Batman from Bruce.
Nobody gives a frick about comics. It doesn’t matter if Dick stayed as Batman in the books. If Bruce is Batman in outside media, the average person will associate Bruce with Batman. Only the movies, tv and games based on these characters are what ultimately matters. Comics are just the source for these mediums to pull from.
DC needs to be very firm when it comes to Dick. In the past they have been careless and even sloppy with Dick. Putting Dick in places and situations where Dick has absolutely no business being. DC has to take a better grip on Dick, treat Dick better, put Dick in situations where he can grow and show everyone the old Dick we all remember reading about.
He was great as Grayson and DickBats, and he's great as Robin in World's Finest
Honestly, I've been thinking more and more that the Titans only hold Dick down, and that he'd be a better character if he outgrew them and became a fixture in the League
Keep him away from Batman and the rest of the bat people. There's no point to him being Nightwing if they still intend on keeping him a sidekick. Nightwing is supposed to be own man. Focus on reinforcing his own supporting cast and villians.
Replace Batman with him on the Justice League, and for like a seriously extended period. Have him actually truly be on the level all the other A-listers instead of just Batman's former sidekick and supporting character.
Boring and easily ignored, now, a son with a villain......oh, that would be nice. Tarantula, or Mirage, could appear with a small one. But it couldn't be written by Taylor because he sucks. Priest would know how to bring Tarantula right to piss off the Nightwing fanbase.
>With all possible respect to my friend Tim Seely, my former mentor Marv Wolfman, Devin Grayson, Geoff Johns and others, I find Dick Grayson to be the most boring Wonder Bread boilerplate character ever to pull on spandex. That’s just me. Tens of thousands of fans are *rabid* Dick Grayson fans. For the life of me, I couldn’t explain why. Grayson, in his various iterations, seems, to me, the ultimate expression of what I’m being harangued about around the web: the flattened-out character whose dealt with all of his shortcomings and character flaws. I see Grayson and I wonder, “And now what?”
That's why I want him to write Nightwing and also why i hate Taylor Nightwing, which is a reflection of Internet Dick. Not the real one from the comic books.
Priest was just salty that everyone got on him for writing Damian as a stuck up little shit to Dick Grayson like he only read the first issue of Morrison's Batman and Robin instead of the entire run.
You're proving my point. Dick never appeared in Percy's Teen Titans. Priest didn't do the research and got upset when he was rightfully harangued for it. Dick and Damian are best buds.
You take that back, Joey is the purest boy to ever live.
Remember when he murdered Wintergreen and blew out Impulse's knee? What about when he murdered Golden Eagle? Or when he assassinated that politician? Or when he tried to murder that guy he was fricking? Joey has been messed up for a long time.
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Everything after 1990 wasn’t his fault and Isherwood deserved to die because he was a groomer
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>muh corrupted souls of Azarath >muh temporary insanity >muh evil residue from constantly possessing bad guys
Anyways, let's have Dick leave Babs for Rose and bring Joey into the book as a supporting character.
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are you going to have a nice day when dick marries Babs in canon? legit question
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Nta but no marriage of any kind is happening. Dick and the rest of the bats are for suffering.
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Dick needs to marry Joey!
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*Wally
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Wally is married and people only ship them because of the YJ cartoon. The comic versions of them are boring and barely have chemistry
God no, just go read the endless amounts of Nightwing stories where the writers just beat the character into the ground and make him as miserable as possible.
Good times, today we have what? a dog and charities. And he hasn't gone after Heartless until now. The worst and most annoying vigilante in history, congratulations Taylor.
I don't like Taylor's run but it is better than the endless slog of having to read about how miserable Dick's life is over and over that was stretches of the late 90s and large stretches of the 00s, and all of the New 52. Just go back and read those if you want him being written like that.
Tarantula is the hot-blooded latina stereotype. At worst she's a fed turned superhero turned rapist supervillain and at best she's a shitty Catwoman type femme fatale.
Mirage is literally a superhero. And she already has a son by Deathwing.
black mirror proved he's built for young tortured neo noir, not the cutesy activist tom taylor is failing to cook. give him real villains, real themes and actually show him being a competent detective. let him have a playboy era, using random women and staying distant from them. (they could make roy or jericho his femboys but i think one lgbt robin is enough.) he should eventually settle with starfire or the black girl or some other OC, but i want a slow burn that makes it matter.
Become a prostitute
This but he can continue to fight crime by suffocating criminals in his ass
Bring back Ric
Rape him again
kill him
Make him DickBats again
DC can just keep doing what they're doing.
He has a top selling solo book, he's anchoring the new Titans series, and as Robin he's featured in both of the World's Finest ongoings.
Dick hasn't had this many ongoing books since Batman: Reborn. He's doing great.
>He's doing great.
Creatively speaking, he’s in a pit right now.
If this is a pit then what the frick was Ric Grayson?
Jones, Wolfman, Higgins, Percy, and the Ric Grayson era all say you have no idea how much worse it could be. This is good. This is DC trying.
Nah. Haters gonna hate while Dick is flourishing.
True but his fans don't care about that. Creativity is not why they've stuck to him this far.
>Comics are just the source for these mediums to pull from.
And it's always very adapted, for very good reasons.
He needs to impregnate Babs
This
Genuinely surprised how most DC animation crews are allowed to get Starfire and Dick together after DC editorial has been making sure it never happens again in comics
>generic batfamily baby with no powers
Babs is one of the worst choices because them having a baby is just boring, flavorless, and sterile.
At least have the mom of the baby be somebody that provides some sort of challenge or intrigue.
Kory or Kara provides a half alien with powers, Rose provides the drama of Dick’s baby being his archenemy’s grandkid, and Tarantula or any female villain also provides tons of drama and ensures Dick actually keeps one of his villains for once.
Dick and Rose would provide an interesting dynamic but it'd make Dick look like a groomer.
Tim should impregnate Rose and Steph
He's too busy impregnating/getting impregnated by Bernard.
>Tim should impregnate Rose and Steph
Yeah. That is never going to happen. Ever.
It would be funny, the Robin who has sex with the ass, having two kids
Well Slade is also a groomer and one of the most cliched things about hero’s and villains is the villain’s insistence he and the hero are a lot alike…
Anyway Slade wants Dick to frick Rose.
Fricking your worst enemy’s daughter. Classic.
What do you mean by groomer? I doubt Devin Grayson wanted to give that impression............oh
Bro, I like Devin Grayson's run more and more, rape, grooming....
Dick needs a son with Babs so he can then become Red X.
After the shit they pulled in Titans Academy, I'd rather we let the Red X identity die.
It's okay, they can just ignore the Titans Academy stuff.
Rose already got rejected by both Dick and Tim, the only bat boy she has a chance with is Jason.
She needs a beast man, not a bat boy.
He's too pure for Rose. She'll have to wait until Damian grows up.
You have that backwards. Rose is far too pure for Jason.
Nothing related to Deathstroke is pure.
She didn't even meet Deathstroke till her mid teens.
Jason Todd decapitated eight men, shoved their heads into a duffel bag, and carried it around all night just to be dramatic. Jason is a psychopath.
>Jason is a psychopath
Just bantz tbh
Remember when he mowed down a building full of people with a chain gun then stabbed Onyx in the shoulder for the lulz?
Height of comedy
>Jason is a psychopath.
Oh come one, my man had just been DEAD and he was souped up on that lazarus pit drank, of course he was insane for a while
Imagine fricking dying and being revived by someone putting you on a crack hotbox, nobody would come out 100% sane
I would be.
You take that back, Joey is the purest boy to ever live.
Jason and Rose are both pure pretending not to be.
Rose was a massive bawd pre reboot.
She was being a tryhard, same as Jason.
Only after Johns left the Teen Titans books. Johns wrote the girl who was raised in a brothel using her sexuality to get the guys to shield her from the girls that wanted her off the team. Beechen, McKeever, etc., just saw the loose badgirl and that's what she became.
Jason Is for Amazonian arms only.
DC can say that Rose also raped Dick
>>No Rose, don't pull my pants down. Oh God, I can't fight back, my superior male strength and fighting ability can't stop a teenage girl from sucking my dick."
Double down on the ass.
>half the thread is still who he needs to have sex with
>not even 20 replies
>it dies within 5 hours
Wow the character really is over
Nightwing's popularity and success is the proof DC and Marvel need to realize you can make superhero comics appealing to women without "diversifying" or appealing to the dyed hair squad. Honestly I think it's an absolute win that women are getting hot and bothered for the original Robin in this day and age.
Nah that's because they're pretending he's a pock, so falls under "diversifying".
Make him WASP again
Call him Richard.
Simone did that in new 52 Batgirl for some reason with Babs calling him that. It was weird and didn’t catch on.
Give him back to Seeley and pretend everything between now and Seeley's previous run never happened.
Make him Robin again. No one but fanboys care about Nightwing.
Of all the superhero characters he is the one that suffers the most from comics ultimately being static. He is always going to be defined by his relationship with Batman and he will never escape the Batfamily. It would never happen and maybe it shouldn't but, the only meaningful place to take Dick is having a universe where he permanently takes over the mantle of Batman from Bruce.
Nobody gives a frick about comics. It doesn’t matter if Dick stayed as Batman in the books. If Bruce is Batman in outside media, the average person will associate Bruce with Batman. Only the movies, tv and games based on these characters are what ultimately matters. Comics are just the source for these mediums to pull from.
DC needs to be very firm when it comes to Dick. In the past they have been careless and even sloppy with Dick. Putting Dick in places and situations where Dick has absolutely no business being. DC has to take a better grip on Dick, treat Dick better, put Dick in situations where he can grow and show everyone the old Dick we all remember reading about.
isn't the current run basically a SoL almost on par with Wayne family adventure?
it's for women right now to be honest
make better books
Keep trying something new
suck it
Better villains.
He was great as Grayson and DickBats, and he's great as Robin in World's Finest
Honestly, I've been thinking more and more that the Titans only hold Dick down, and that he'd be a better character if he outgrew them and became a fixture in the League
Keep him away from Batman and the rest of the bat people. There's no point to him being Nightwing if they still intend on keeping him a sidekick. Nightwing is supposed to be own man. Focus on reinforcing his own supporting cast and villians.
Mainly focus on making Jason Todd standout as a spy character works under Amanda Waller.
Dick should have the Batman mantle.
I'm a little sick of Amanda Waller being everywhere.
I know you're exaggerating but cmon shes not that fat
Another Dick thread turned into a Jason one.
it's free, so they stick around, but when it comes to buying comics, Jason's fans disappear
You've just described the entirety of Cinemaphile
Replace Batman with him on the Justice League, and for like a seriously extended period. Have him actually truly be on the level all the other A-listers instead of just Batman's former sidekick and supporting character.
What if he adopts a child to be his sidekick?
Boring and easily ignored, now, a son with a villain......oh, that would be nice. Tarantula, or Mirage, could appear with a small one. But it couldn't be written by Taylor because he sucks. Priest would know how to bring Tarantula right to piss off the Nightwing fanbase.
I hope Priest writes Nightwing one day.
>With all possible respect to my friend Tim Seely, my former mentor Marv Wolfman, Devin Grayson, Geoff Johns and others, I find Dick Grayson to be the most boring Wonder Bread boilerplate character ever to pull on spandex. That’s just me. Tens of thousands of fans are *rabid* Dick Grayson fans. For the life of me, I couldn’t explain why. Grayson, in his various iterations, seems, to me, the ultimate expression of what I’m being harangued about around the web: the flattened-out character whose dealt with all of his shortcomings and character flaws. I see Grayson and I wonder, “And now what?”
That's why I want him to write Nightwing and also why i hate Taylor Nightwing, which is a reflection of Internet Dick. Not the real one from the comic books.
Priest was just salty that everyone got on him for writing Damian as a stuck up little shit to Dick Grayson like he only read the first issue of Morrison's Batman and Robin instead of the entire run.
It was consistent to how he was being portrayed in Percy's Teen Titans, which Priest explicitly is the book he read.
You're proving my point. Dick never appeared in Percy's Teen Titans. Priest didn't do the research and got upset when he was rightfully harangued for it. Dick and Damian are best buds.
Remember when he murdered Wintergreen and blew out Impulse's knee? What about when he murdered Golden Eagle? Or when he assassinated that politician? Or when he tried to murder that guy he was fricking? Joey has been messed up for a long time.
Everything after 1990 wasn’t his fault and Isherwood deserved to die because he was a groomer
>muh corrupted souls of Azarath
>muh temporary insanity
>muh evil residue from constantly possessing bad guys
Anyways, let's have Dick leave Babs for Rose and bring Joey into the book as a supporting character.
are you going to have a nice day when dick marries Babs in canon? legit question
Nta but no marriage of any kind is happening. Dick and the rest of the bats are for suffering.
Dick needs to marry Joey!
*Wally
Wally is married and people only ship them because of the YJ cartoon. The comic versions of them are boring and barely have chemistry
God no, just go read the endless amounts of Nightwing stories where the writers just beat the character into the ground and make him as miserable as possible.
Good times, today we have what? a dog and charities. And he hasn't gone after Heartless until now. The worst and most annoying vigilante in history, congratulations Taylor.
I don't like Taylor's run but it is better than the endless slog of having to read about how miserable Dick's life is over and over that was stretches of the late 90s and large stretches of the 00s, and all of the New 52. Just go back and read those if you want him being written like that.
Tarantula is the hot-blooded latina stereotype. At worst she's a fed turned superhero turned rapist supervillain and at best she's a shitty Catwoman type femme fatale.
Mirage is literally a superhero. And she already has a son by Deathwing.
He literally just adopted some black girl.
He got temporary custody for two issues before giving her over to the Amazons.
have his kid get named terry and build up from there
black mirror proved he's built for young tortured neo noir, not the cutesy activist tom taylor is failing to cook. give him real villains, real themes and actually show him being a competent detective. let him have a playboy era, using random women and staying distant from them. (they could make roy or jericho his femboys but i think one lgbt robin is enough.) he should eventually settle with starfire or the black girl or some other OC, but i want a slow burn that makes it matter.
>Dick its so shit that better to talk about Chadson
how he does it bros..
So chad that the webtoon had to end with Dick and Barbara's wedding to get attention because nobody cares.
Because he's best boy.
More Dickstroke
Lori needs to go back, with a son who is about 15 years old.
Easy