>Alright, we're casting a new actor as 007. Since he's going to be playing James Bond we're going to need someone who's tall, dark-haired and handsome with amazing screen charisma and presence.
>I've got just the guy.
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What were they thinking?
jesus fricking christ can you let it go already
not until Babs livestreams her getting slapped to bits
fpbp
It's absolutely insane how Craig lives rent free in the heads of so many autistic NEET morons on here.
Craig was actually a very good Bond, and Casino Royale and Skyfall are two of the best Bond films ever made, and it drives you losers crazy.
Keep seething.
>Skyfall
*QOS
you were doing so well up until there.
I like QOS but it has some real problems, and Skyfall was a borderline masterpiece. Are you one of the spergs who hates it solely because of the one brief gay innuendo Bond has with the villain?
>and Skyfall was a borderline masterpiece
Insane statement. It's a chopped up piece of shit with nonstop subversion and grimdark nonsense. It was an overreaction due to QOS not making as much as CR. The gay scene is not the biggest thing, it's the absolutely garbage plot with the most contrived nonsense, the plot not even being about Bond, the black Moneypenny, the gay Q, Bond going from rookie to old man thrown away, the final scene,the Bond theme played out of tune by amateurs, the DB5 being destroyed for a joke, the car even being there same from Goldfinger ruining the whole point of rebooting with Craig, Dench dying and the movie wanting us to care, Fiennes being M out of nowhere, the black lady being Moneypenny in the cringiest fashion ever. Q not only being some effeminate guy, but not even a real quartermaster. He's a hacker. A fricking cacker. So much wrong with it. It's not a borderline masterpiece, you buffoon.
Thank you for writing this post about what a piece of shit Skyfall is so I didn't have to write one.
>you buffoon.
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Skyfall is the worst Bond movie ever made, it's like a parody.
skyfall was bad but no where near as bad as the later brosnan films.
Bond wins in the later Brosnan films so they're still better than Skyfall, in which Bond fricks up for an entire movie, then loses.
This. Bond and M should be colleagues, him crying over her when she send him to die was insanely out of touch.
insane statement, stop posting.
>Bond and M should be colleagues, him crying over her when she send him to die was insanely out of touch.
I felt like this was always more for the audience than it was bond. Not that that's a good thing. I love Judie Dench as M but they needed to rid perception that M can only be her. Bringing her over to Craig films was pure fanservice
I love how NPCs absolutely love Dench because they are told to. She's great because she's.... a woman and heckin strong! that's it. that's all the praise she gets. pure NPC speak. M is a man and i'm glad they realized their folly and made Fiennes M. If they kept Dench, they should keep Fiennes. Dench suited the subversive nature of the Craig films more. I wanted Hopkins or Stewart as M in Brosnan's era.
NTA but Judi Dench is a good actress and has a regal quality to her like the Queen did. It's an English series after all.
There's issues with the films but I don't think she was one of them.
On one hand I could see the appeal in having M, Q etc. Remain static while bond has iterations, if they were gonna roll with the "its the same universe and bond is a codename", but they didn't even do that as proven in Skyfall and the Craig films were a reboot. Judi Dench is playing a different character. Compare her quips about the Cold War in GoldenEye and Casino Royale. The M which Pierce Brosnan met is a moderniser, who regards the Cold War as ancient history. The M which Daniel Craig worked with is a traditionalist who misses the clarity of the Cold War.
I feel like you may be overstating the
M is a man and that's that. I don't mind Judi Dench at all but she's not M. M is a man, the M is due to M being a man called Miles Messery. They should keep Fiennes when they reboot with Aaron Taylor, it'd be fair. My favourite M is Robert Brown. I always liked how he spoke and acted.
Sorry for fricking up my response. What I meant is that those two lines do give way to that interpretation but I feel like you may be reading a bit too into it. Although, canonically, they have different names. Brosnan M is Olivia Mansfield, Craig M is Barbara Madsley. At this point, just reboot from scratch. I want them to keep Fiennes as he had gravitas and commanding presence but at this point, the Craig movies pretending to be reboots while featuring the M from Moore and Dalton fricks things up. Start fresh.
I never cared for M much in general, I just think Dench was more memorable. But I don't see an issue with Hopkins if that's what you would've preferred.
Respectable but I want to interject. M isn't supposed to be a memorable character, he's important but in the sense that he's integral to the overral mythos and well Bond getting a mission. That's all M should be and that's how I like it, for sure. They just used the position to virtue signal a bit in the 90's. Bond taking orders from a woman is a ridiculous thing to me. Thank you for being civil. Also, for Bond 26 i'd wager a good alternative to Fiennes is Jared Harris. He was more or less M in UNCLE.
Ok, with Harris I'm sold as that would indeed be kino.
any more casting choices i've dreamt up you would like to hear? I think Eddie Marsan would be an ideal Q for a new reboot. He looks like a quartermaster and someone who makes gadgets all day.
>Grow up, 007!
also, Lucy Boynton as a nerdy, shy Moneypenny infatuated with James and blueballed by him. A return to the hottest Moneypenny of all, Caroline Bliss.
The biggest problem is he's GAY
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Dalton showed that there's a place for homosexual Bond, so there's more to it than that
A character having more than 2 dimensions isn't gay. Americans just want popcorn cinema which is exactly what the Bond films became at one point. The Dalton/Craig movies had more depth.
>Dalton
>homosexual
FOOL
Craig's were faux depth, as in they set things up but never delivered also you can't get over the fact HE IS NOT JAMES BOND. Dalton IS Bond, he looks identical to how the creator envisioned him and acted accordingly. Dalton's LTK had more emotional pathos, ethos and then catharsis than anything in those women movies the russian gay was in.
I like Dalton's movies but Casino Royale had enough depth without turning into a different genre altogether. Even Dalton himself said he would've loved to star in it. So you're wrong.
So he's literally any Hollywood actor?
considering every other bond is just goofy as frick it was the right choice.
that statement makes no sense. you're just saying inane shit to justify craig.
a bunch of out of shape alcoholic old guys playing a killer spy. None of which look like they would ever win a fight.
no one cares about that. Bond movies are adventure pulp pieces, not autistic and dreary spy shit like Tinker Tailor Sneed Chuck or whatever.
sean connery was a bodybuilder
yeah he looks pretty average when he was shooting the films.
just because one doesn't have a visible six pack doesn't mean they're out of shape or not strong.
the threats craigs bond fights are also much larger and meaner.
someone like moore or brosnan would look way out of their league in a fight like that. Craig looks like he's been hit in the face a lot.
meanwhile brosnan gets squeezed to death by a twig https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of7LHW5cCBQ&ab_channel=Movieclips
I don't know how you can watch that and not think it's goofy as hell.
what do you think the bond franchise is? hard science spy thrillers?
his body in dr. no is ideal for any man. not that you should give two shits what women want but that kind of body is the standard.
yeah they smoke so many cigs they would probably be out of breath in a 100 yard run.
I had this bod when I was drinking beer and doing pushups daily. I managed to have a Stacy coworker have a crush on me with this tummy
What is so appealing with this physique?
It's the physique of a guy who is just naturally strong.
you must be an american. bond isnt supposed to fight, he's supposed to avoid fights when possible and definitely avoid fair fights. he's supposed to outsmart the opposition.
I dunno why it bothers you so much his movies arent even that great you can easily just pretend they don’t exist
I would if the producer Barbara Broccoli isn't pretty much putting the entire character on hold because she can't get over Craig quitting.
Ah, so you’re excited for idris Elba to take up the mantle, makes sense.
nowhere in my post did i say that. if i'm still hung up on Craig, how do you think i would react to a black guy as Bond? Bond is tall, handsome and charismatic englishman/briton with dark hair and blue eyes. nothing else.
>muh dirty blonde hair
Moore wasn't that dark-haired either.
Moore is practically brunette
The point is he wasn't any "less" James Bond because of his hair. All of the Bonds look wildly different from each other.
Sure but they all have the same feel, that was the general idea. You can buy Dalton coming off from Moore and Brosnan off of Dalton. Connery from Moore was a bit of a bigger leap but it landed. Craig just isn't James Bond material even in a general sense, they should have taken the risk with Cavill or Colin Farrell.
Cavill Bond would've been soulless
Maybe, maybe not. We would never know. I would have preferred Clive Owen or Colin Farrell (at the time, he was young but seasoned and had a Connery-like presence).
Dalton was being courteous. Movie is good but could have been truly amazing if they stuck with the novel during the big moments also didn't cast Craig.
>Dalton was being courteous
No, he just has taste for a good script/approach. If he was being courteous he wouldn't have criticized the Moore era.
why would we take the appraisal of someone seriously who was not a good bond. he played a romantic, sentimental bond, his opinion counts for NOTHING.
He was a good Bond. As it stands, probably the best, but purists might disagree because he elevated Bond to something superior than it is by default.
he was a terrible bond because bond is supposed to be unsentimental. his profession is killing for the good side. he cannot afford being sentimental, the bad guys would only leverage that against him.
he's also no sex addict in that he normally can control his urges as needed. for bond the mission comes first. he's got his priorities clear and straight.
>Colin Farrell
No, watch In Bruges and Phone Booth. Good actor, in looks perhaps closer to Bond than Craig but the same can be said for many. He's not the type, even less so than craig.
to be pedantic, all Bonds have brown hair since caucasians can't actually have 'black hair' it's dark brown and Moore's was just lighter brown and with his age, appeared blonde but wasn't. Otherwise, he fit the part.
Daniel Craig was intentionally picked to not fit the mold, yes.
no, not any of that gay shit. the producer is a woman, she got turned on by him and she cast him. that's it. Campbell wanted Cavill and only did CR because of the contract. CR is supposed to be a Bond origin story with a guy that looks like Red Grant and has his charisma or lack thereof. stop spreading nonsense.
He was a kino Bond
*Bourne
why do gaybois make those passive aggressive threads about other dudes
They all fit each other pretty perfectly and have charm, elegance and screenstar presence. even fricking Lazenby, the car salesman.
Then there's ...Craig.
Hard disagree. Craig stands out in a kino way.
if he did, you would explain instead of making a dumb open ended 'statement'.
They did the same with Moonraker and bounced back without having to cast someone unfitting and changing the entire formula and modus operatis of the franchise for 40 years. even then, things didn't get bad until Skyfall. gay Q, DB5 being destroyed as a joke, black field agent Moneypenny, story about M, the gay scene. ripping off TDK. that was a horrible movie. oh and the fricking song. god, i would rip my ears out if i heard it again.
He's the least like the rest which helps him stand out the most, but at the same time there's an edge, ruggedness and realism to his Bond that the others don't quite possess. Connery has some of that, in terms of looking like he's been in the wringer a few times, and Dalton was a more true to life Bond, but Craig has both of those aspects.
He was just dealt a shitty hand with the latter movies.
But I really don't care about the "run of the mill blockbuster" approach to Bond or making him a literal God/capeshit character. Some say it's better escapism but I find humanity and relatability better for that purpose when we're dealing with a largely grounded setting like a spy movie.
I liked Craig until Skyfall. I actually loved his first two movies and played the hell out of Blood Stone. People don't want to admit this and be snobs but the fact is.. no one cares about the literary James Bond. They care about the general outline of Terence Young's James Bond. Cool guy in tuxedo and suits in high tension situations with beautiful girls, cars and some nifty gadgets stopping some villain. That general outline is what will keep the franchise relevant for the rest of time. The codename theory isn't real but it is, in a way. Craig is James Bond but not the James Bond of Brosnan or Connery. He is his own thing. That's why Bond will survive well into this century. Which is why I am liking ATJ as ''Bond''. Again, he's clearly going to play a character that's nothing like the rest (ala Craig) but has some general attributes that act as a bridge between him and, say, Dalton. You have to let go of Connery, Brosnan Bond. Of course, Bond MUST be white and British. End of. This doesn't excuse him being anything but that. If the actor is white and British (Craig is) then he can be James Bond.
>Cool guy in tuxedo and suits in high tension situations with beautiful girls, cars and some nifty gadgets stopping some villain. That general outline is what will keep the franchise relevant for the rest of time.
you forgot crucial parts. he's supposed to be an elegant gentleman who can fit in with british high society.
he's NOT an american action hero.
why do so many fa/tv/irgins here miss this point?
I never doubted that anon but the fact is he can be both which I thought Craig did well enough in QOS (the rest nonwithstanding). Bond is an archetype now, not Ian Fleming's vision anymore. He's a British spy pulp hero that's also altered to the demands of the time. Craig's movies were Bourneesque at first due to that being popular and the aesthetic of the times. You have to work with the times. I miss the late 00's.
again: are you american?
I don't know what made you assume that. Older Bond movies are a lot more American in spirit.
because in the USA the idea that you have to be a buff alpha to be a real man is way more prevalent than in europe. bond, ideally, is a thinking man. an elegant man who can mingle with british upper society. of course he also has to be athletic to be able to believably perform all these feats.
but he's no stallone/schwarzenegger type of action hero.
>because in the USA the idea that you have to be a buff alpha to be a real man is way more prevalent than in europe
Highly debatable anon On the whole, I would disagree. I think America is more superficial, and in that sense, gym culture for both men and women is more advanced. But it's tied more to vanity than "toughness" or overcoming hardship.
Craig's Bond is a largely regular man (compared to the rest) who overcomes hardship like any real-life man would: through blood, sweat and tears. His physique reflects that, as he needs to be at the top of his game. At the same time, this isn't a Bond who would survive a battle in space, so in that sense, he's more like a real MI6 agent. And I find that kind of escapism better.
I already know Bond will say some clever line, have a martini, get the girl, etc, but him going through real struggle will make me care more about whatever obstacles come his way. If you like cartoon-style "I am perfect in every way" Bond, that's fine, but I don't find that inspiring in the same way.
His Bond was interesting because he was a thug from given privilige and an orphan with a bone to pick against the world and deep residing demons. Of course, they never elaborated on this adequately and then they made Spectre.
wasn't brosnan's bond an orphan too? 006 makes a comment about 007 lost his parents in a skiing accident while he lost his due to the british government's treachery
He was but they don't really dwell on it or make it much of a part of his character.
your description does not fit connery bond
clever lines would still work the problem being that bond's lines havent been very clever in a long time. bond fitting in with the upper class distinguishing him from the stereotypical big dumb action hero.
in fact navigating high society where you can't kill nilly-willy but need to tread lightly would make for a more interesting background for a bond plot.
They would unironically all make good casting for a movie about the Roman Empire. Craig could play Casear and Dalton looks like Titus. I'm sure the rest would fit in some molds too.
Dalton would be a fantastic Marc Anthony.
Lazenby and especially Moore are not my idea of handsome, not the ladykiller kind at least
You have to keep in mind that before craig James Bond was getting really, really silly. Like Schumacher levels of corny.
Cinemaphile has a stiffy for Schumacher shit but deems "Bourne"-like films gay, ironically enough.
bond should have a touch of cheese and humor, so craig was too much of an overreaction
To be fair his casting supposedly was based on Layer Cake in which he played quite a smart/suave british gangster. Still not the type to play bond but I get what they saw in him.
It's far too much a stretch, if ANYTHING Layer Cake proved he'd be a great Simon Templar. James Bond is not his wheelhouse. I know, I know. Moore and all. I love Sir Roger but never warmed up to his tenure as Bond. Too comedic and careless for me.
Bond movies are known for their fantastical nature, that's why they're popular. If they were just run-of-the-mill spy thrillers, no one would care. You can't refute this. The villains with the lairs, the stunts and action, the girls, the quips. That's Bond.
>talking about what James bond is supposed to be
Okay. Heres your modern book bond
>it's real
okay, I take it back, I love Craig's Bond and miss him. I'm the guy making these threads btw.
Its okay king, I felt the same
wait till you get to the pozzed comics. Comics are a laughable medium that should not exist anyway but still, those comics are a worse disservice to Bond than Craig is and don't even argue with me on this because it's true. They make Bond kill Nazis, crack Marvel quips and be an edgelord, M is black, Moneypenny is black, gay AND insults Bond. Felix is gay. No womanizing. The stories are all political insanity like that and the art is straight out of a diseased cal arts students' wet dream.
>Aethelstan hadn't been the least bit concerned about ensuring that half the people he'd hired to carry out his coup should be women, or non-white, or disabled.
i honestly can't tell if this is an attempt at humor or not
I would love that and the entire book reads like a parody. However, no. The author is a fully woke redditor and this is all genuine
it's neither, it's supposed to be demoralization props to make you lose your stock in common sense. MK Ultra type of stuff.
>James Bond
>Alcoholic
>Chain smoker
>Gambler
>Sex addict
>Suicidal
>Cares about the rise of antivaxxers and some far right incel army on Anonymous board
Would be a great Austin Powers flick.
The plot will be about racial and identity discrimination. It may be done better than the book about young bond
, but thats what it will be about
Sadly. Barbara Broccoli has gone senile. Bezos needs to frick her out of the IP.
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I loved how Daniel Craig played he hated every minute of playing James Bond. It played well for an alcoholic deep state ZOG-assasin.
I dont think Craig hated being Bond. He hated that he was stuck with that role having to turn down other roles for 17 YEARS. id be getting frustrated too, they took way too long putting out that run. The bond contract is hefty. Its 20 odd pages that a lot of actors interested read and turn down
Craig would have objectively had a better career and probably won an Oscar if he turned down Bond. Layer Cake set him up for that path.
Yeah exactly. Its not all roses getting bond, especially if they're gonna take the piss doing 20 year runs
I grew up with Craig as Bond and he was kino and a great James Bond until his last three movies. I loved his quasi-Bourne aesthetic and felt that QoS was the start of something of a fusion between classic Bond and this new approach with the alternate ending setting up more Quantum movies. I am from a Slav country and people here adore this guy. It's a shame he's a bit of a metrosexual in reality but in EE, he's a masculine idol.
>I am from a Slav country and people here adore this guy.
He looks like he's from here and like a typical slavic male so he became the favourite Bond here. Why does that surprise you?
Anon all normies adore this guy because he's their Bond. They hardly remember the rest.
>15 fricking years this guy was Bond
>spawning the entire MCU saga by two years beginning and two years from the end
Insane to think about. No wonder people get so prissy at hardcore fans when they vent about him. All in all, I am the most autistic Bondgay but the fact is the movies are their own beast. Roger Moore is a completely different person from Sean Connery but him as Bond worked. Same thing with Brosnan/Craig but Craig only had 1 good movie and three legacy-ruining ones but as you said, normies don't care or remember although Brosnan is getting a reappraisal.
craig is the bond everyone will deeply appreciate once they wheel out the next bond who will be some wheelchaired purple haired Black person and the title "james bond" will just be a retconned pseudonym and "james bond" can actually also be a black woman who defeats the evil trump dictator whos evil plan is to inject every Black person with a juice that makes them white.
the actually movie will be miles more moronic than what i just came up with. i am sure of it
this and I don't like Craig at all. His movies are, even with NTTD, too based even for this day and age. They're saying him fricking Severine is rape and joking after she was killed as evil, also the fact he got Fields killed, fricked a widow who was grieving and forced himself on her and a bunch of other stuff. to them, he's as out there to their sensibilities as Connery. Craig was based (for a while) and from a better time (2000s). I miss that time.
>. His movies are, even with NTTD, too based even for this day and age.
That movie came out 2 years ago and you clearly didn't watch it LMAO
Even then, anon. He was given back his 007 and held his ground at the attempts by the sheebon to lecture him. Yes, him dying for a kid he didn't know and a girl he left was dumb but he was more quippy, confident and womanizing (in the start with Nomi before she reveals herself) than the new estrogen-filled Bond will be.
She's a lesser ranking double oh than him, a veteran.
It makes sense she'd be his chauffeur. I didn't care much for the character in general but I give them props for making her more tolerable in this than other films.
we deserve a remake of the old casino royale
>Dr. Noah turns out to be Sir James's nephew Jimmy Bond, who plans to use biological warfare to make all women beautiful and kill all tall men, leaving him as the "big man" who gets all the girls.
>Alright, we're casting Lex Luthor. We're going to need someone who looks like a menacing middle aged businessman
>the name's Bond, James Bond innit also ARE YOU BEING HECKIN ROICIST M8
IT'S OVER. You gays will beg for more Craigkino.
ATJ is kino though. Great actor. He can make it work if the script isn't woke garbage.
he's pretty good
kek what is this
nocturnal animals
>Made one kino Bond movie
>Then made four straight shitty ones
Even Moore and Dalton had more kinos than Craig. Spectre really showed how they were completely done with the character as a whole
>MEMBER DB5, MEMBER QUIPS, MEMBER BLOFELD, MEMBER SPECTRE, MEMBER FUNNY SECRET AGENT MAN, REMEMBER GOLDFINGER, REMEMBER THE SPY WHO LOVED ME, REMEMBER TORTURE SCENES, REMEMBER WHITE CAT, REMEMBER REMEMEBRBREKRAHEDYQGHYEWRHQWYERHW oh and Bond and Blofeld are brothers.
that was basically Spectre. cinematic abomination.
Clive Owen got snubbed
#JusticeForClive
I miss Craig. His first two were made at the best time of my life so I have some sentimental value due to being a Bond fan at the time and living life.
He was the best bond second only to Dalton.
this is the opinion of people who watch bond but dont even like bond
that's one hot take. i won't insult you but i'd like to hear why and more about this take.
>uhhh you're wrong because of this word ...
indeed, go to reddit.
>He was the best bond second only to Dalton.
so he wasn't the best Bond
You're given an extensive lists of reasons why and still post this. have a nice day. That's what men want out of their media, not gay realism and emotional female brained nonsense.
indeed, case in point:
This.
BoomerBond purists are all söybøy manchildren. This becomes clearer with every post they make. Literally the Virgin BoomerBond Fanboys vs the Chad Craig Enjoyers
>Literally the Virgin BoomerBond Fanboys vs the Chad Craig Enjoyers
AHAHAHAHHAHAH
have a nice day
Actually genuine Boomer Bond purists would most likely like Craig's Bond since the most purist Bond fans have actually read the books, which are quite grounded, realistic and there isn't quips or relying on gagdgets every 5 minutes
true but Craig doesn't look like Bond so the characterization being on point becomes moot also he's basically Stallone in Royale, chasing a guy through walls and shit. That ruined it.
It isn't like that at all and this thread was pretty good discussion outside of your cringememe diatribe.
This. Let's get back to the order of business, Bondbros. WAIFU RANKINGS. Who's your favourite and why?
https://tiermaker.com/create/bond-girl-ranking-187236
Based list tbh
What's yours?
They saw Layer Cake
good movie but hate it for what it lead to
If they can't help it and want to make M a woman again, look no further but have her actually flirt with Bond.
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They are going to pussify Bond no matter what so might as well give us some MILF kino.
He was good and me and my father liked him because his movies had action with a hard-edge. We were disappointed he turned into a massive homosexual.
I like Craig as Bond, he has that same rugged unconventional handsomeness that Steve McQueen had
An apt comparison. Never thought of it like that but it fits. He definitely let himself go after his first two movies. His hair and style in the rest is godawful. He lost that mojo and swagger.
Something really went wrong after the first 2, but I guess it just mirrors real life.
There was a shift in 2012 where the whole planet changed.
I unironically believe this. The feel of the world permanently changed forever as did the West. The Mayas were right. I actually was so excited for his new movies, having loved his first two and played Blood Stone and thought he had a future. He also looks like a more handsome version of me so it was easy to get attached. But here we are..
daniel craig best bond style
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daniel craig is kino