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Judge dredd
Dredd
>One has future tech guns
>The other just has normal guns
"However Punisher was once able to Solo the Entire Marvel Universes!"
>DB: "Castle was once able to react to so-and-so which means he can move at least 1500 times the speed of light!"
Haven't both had crossovers with Batman? We can measure them by who fought Batman better.
>le scaling meme
It works when used in a consistent medium.
Sadly Comics are not a consistent medium
How come comicgays are always called out on things like this, but anime/mangagays never are?
We have to realize that writers are almost never scientists and simply just write things because it sounds cool. But anime/mangagays always take it at face value and go "GOKU CAN DESTROY THE UNIVERSE WITH A FLICK 29,395 TIMES OVER LMAO!!!"
>Goku out of nowhere
Obsessed
>out of nowhere
It's because DBgays still think Goku got snubbed and he is the most talked about anime/manga character in these threads.. It's not Goku's fault he loses all of his matchups. DBgays can't seem to accept that.
Goku beats Superman and Usagi
Goku lost twice against superman and the crew would do anything to make usagi get the W
fanfiction isn't canon
Pathetic cope, dbseether
Why does Goku's simple existence make you so upset?
You're being laughed at, ESL
Nobody's upset with you, and nobody even thinks about Goku until you come here begging for more humiliation kek
>racism
get out.
>tumblard
Out
>doubles down on racism
Get. Out.
Land whale isn't a race, moron.
go leave, racist butthole
Goku lives rent free in your mind
No, moron
But you can go ahead and believe that all you want
Yeah he does
Battle boards everywhere are absolutely infested with anime wankers. It's disgusting.
Anime wankers canibalize each others every time anyway.
Because anime/manga are written by one author, ignoring the many editors that they swap around, so they believe it to be more consistent. They're right, to an extent. Like if you were to have Oda, Kubo and Kishimoto write Ghost Rider, instead of Penance Stare working 1/10 times you'd have it work 6/10, 3/10 and 10/10 times (only because he gave it to an Uchiha)
Unless you gave it to Toriyama he'd have it work 0/10 times and make GR out to be a schizo because "Raffs"
Mangaka of popular shonen normally don't use logarithms; although I have seen a handful of exponents the likes of which make me think manga writers don't understand exponents. rather, they use forms with ambiguous multipliers not meant to be taken out of the context of the very same series. So they ARE called out for wonky mathematics, but it's mostly made up multipliers with made up variables
Give it time, I know Iseki/RPG gays have been using bullshit math for a long while in their shitty fantasy series
But they do. Remember getbackers debacle from over a decade ago? Saint seiya animevice controversy? When medakagays insisted anshin was omnipotent. All those times people said dbz characters were just massively hypersonic.
Because in manga for the most part you usually don't see them pull big numbers out of nowhere.
When you're reading One Piece you don't hear anyone go "THAT'S A 123 ON THE RICHTER SCALE" when Whitebeard uses his Devil Fruit. Nor do you hear anyone go "BUU'S SCREAMING MUST BE WORTH A MILLION DECIBELS" in DBZ.
Animegays used to be like this in the 00s, but the Capegays picked up the worst of it while Animegays grew up.
I remember back then DB strongest character used was obliviously SS4 Gogeta until Super Battle of Gods
The character Pyron from Darkstalkers was particulary used despite Saviour Demitri, Morrigan, Lilith, Belial and Jedah being above him
Vampire Saviour/Hunter 2 Arcade ending implies that Pyron there was revived by Jedah
I miss GT characters in vs debates
manga does not state Scientific Scales as often as comic. And when they explain powers it is though some abstract bs.
because Goku has actually almost destroyed the universe once, and got way, way stronger since
There's a lot of shit in comics where it's clear as day that the writer knows frick all about what they're about and what they end up writing comes off as nothing but moronic dribble to anyone that has even a cursory knowledge of the thing.
BUT shit like this, while it's very likely the writer is a moron, is really not that bad. Something like this shouldn't be read as Cyborg being 110% factually accurate. It should be read the same way as someone saying something is a million miles away, it's an idiom.
Dredd beat batman twice. This is a poor match up for the punisher.
Dredd, likely. The weapons he uses are likely deadlier because they should be ahead of the current timeline unlike Frank's, his accessories are probably more versatile, and I think he's been flat out enhanced to be superhuman unlike Frank's "I live in Marvel and fight Marvel superhumans so I must be superhuman myself" nonsense.
He also has the whole Justice Dept. backing him up.
>Modern weapons wouldn't be able to pierce his suit.
Nah, they totally would. Even in the crazy world of Dredd the jumpsuit itself is just a leather/kevlar riding suit and Judges get merked all the time from everything from bullets to shrapnel to one futsie with a knife (their daysticks have reinforced cores to stop anything bladed up to a chainsaw, but that requires actually getting the stick in the way of it).
Dredd. Modern weapons wouldn't be able to pierce his suit. His gun fires all sorts of crazy shit. Has experience policing all sorts of crazy shit for over half a century since he was a kid. Captured knock off versions from Supermen to Punishers.
Dredd because he's basically a human Robocop.
Does Frank's gun have infinite Franks?
so, who the frick is Luffy fighting?
Either Naruto or Plastic Man if/when it happens. Unless Oda goes maximum crazy with Gear 5 by the end to the point he is doing over the top toonforce shit like punching people out of panels and stuff. Then he'd fight Popeye
imo it's going to be Plas vs Luffy.
Luffy beating Plastic Man would be pretty hilarious if they allowed it.
>Unless Oda goes maximum crazy with Gear 5 by the end to the point he is doing over the top toonforce shit like punching people out of panels and stuff
he won't, he still needs to have a though fight against the final antagonist
>Naruto
>Plastic Man
>Popeye
Lmao Luffygays are even more moronic than DBSpics
Luffy has legitimate win-cons vs Plas, which ironically is something many more powerful characters lack.
He can turn his body into rubber (or have the same effect with Haki) to stop him from regenerating. That's the only thing I can think of.
Haki is a pretty hard counter to shapeshifters, since it can both let the user damage them, or just straight up overpower them in a battle of wills. Hell, even the limited precognition haki gives is a pretty big advantage, since it would make it harder for Plas to exploit his more gimmicky win cons (disguising himself, slithering into Luffy's body). Not saying Luffy 100% wins, but he's a somewhat rare character that has the tools to take Plastic Man down without being severely out of his weight class.
Plastic Man probably. Warner would love a video where a not so popular DC character kill a popular anime character because they scaled him to a planet buster.
They need to stop being moronic and start using the pre time skip versions of these characters.
Naruto or Plastic Man, apparently Swan likes the latter
Naruto. Plastic Man is for Mr Fantastic
I wouldn't mind getting Naruto to 2-0.
The new Bastard anime looks shitty and uninspiring. Like all modern anime.
Unless they back at the last second, and fights either toriko or luke (or both)
Luke makes more sense. Toriko has better thematic fights.
Like Asura. Now that's a spicy episode if you ask me.
Probably Naruto.
>Ninja vs Pirates
>Classic legacy matchup
>Both happen to have some bullshit lineage going on with them
>Both wanna have the most prestigious title in the world
>Both also happen to have some spirit living within them, with Naruto having Kurama and Luffy having Nika's spirit to some degree
If Swan robs us outta this with another episode of DC scaling then you know how much of a gay he is.
Plas will demolish his anus.
Nope because plas is for mr fantastic
No one wants that
>No one wants that
Your headcanon? Not real.
No one has ever asked for that fight besides you
Plastic Man in all likelihood. Naruto could never compare
We all know who
one piece has just as many shitty flashbacks
Luffy doesn’t care about your backstory
He always falls asleep at it
Except when they're about Oden.
That? That wasn’t some guy b***hing about his childhood like Naruto about having no friends
There are more Flashbacks to Sasori telling Sakura to go the the Bridge than there are Flashbacks in OP as a whole.
Dredd would absolutely murk Castle if they were taken at face value. Obviously, though, they'll both be scaled to world-ending bullshit.
Me
Putting Dredd in a death battle? 20 years in the cube.
Bring me Nardo Uzmaki
Is this a fair matchup?
How probably is that Swan will say something like "Donkey kong is physically stronger than Mario and King K Rool scales to DK"?
King K Rool is stronger than DK.
K Rool being stronger than DK works off the same logic as DDD being stronger than Kirby (B-BUT HE'S A BOSS CHARACTER AND YOU GET HURT IF YOU RUN INTO HIM HE MUST BE STRONGER).
K Rool has no strength feats, at least none on the same level as DK. He's durable and cunning, but that's about it.
BB can probably insta-kill Rool with BURACKAHHOE and K-Rool can turn Blackbeard into just a Beard with his strength. I'd say it's pretty fair.
I'm imagining a battle theme that's a mashup of gang-plank galleon and now my hands get, and I'm not sure how it would work, but I want it.
If they do this battle regardless of who wins they must make K Rool be apparently defeated and then show the K.O. tab, then Boomstick starts to talking but suddendly the K.O. tab appears again and it is revealed that he King K Rool is still alive (that would be the perfect chance for him to appear in his giant form from DK: Jungle Climber)
Yessss.
Nah. Pennywise's power is just written about and never actually shown. In terms of actual feats, she's sadly not too great.
Dredd should win, but they'd "scale" Frank to be able to move a million times FTL and punch with the force of nuclear bombs because he shot Spider-Man once or something.
Where did this fear of massive wank for lowtiers come from? The biggest street tier wanking we've seen this season was Jinx being mountain level durability and Zatanna being universal or whatever.
At best they're gonna give Judge and Punisher FTE speeds and wall to house level strength, with probably building level durability.
They gave both Black Canary and Iron Fist FTL movement speed (the former via an offhanded and likely hyperbolic nanosecond statement and the latter by scaling to Spider-Man). They gave Batman lightning speed and nuke tier durability
They also made Harley Quinn FTL, it was mentioned in a black box
>via scaling to Spider-Man
>Carnage obviously scales to Spider-Man
>they put Carnage at fricking bullet speed, said he couldn't kill Lucy before she kills him due to being slower than her tendrils
>it took multiple seconds for them to wrap around the earth
>light, which Carnage us faster than, circles the earth 8 times in a single second
Literally screwed out of a win. Fantastic job Ben.
Everyone knows Ben just wanted his first Ryona crush to get a win, he even admitted to it.
>he even admitted to it
When?
https://roosterteeth.com/watch/death-battle-with-commentary-2018-carnage-vs-lucy-w-commentary
Guy basically said "We wanted Carnage in a Death Battle. We also want Lucy and her show to get some attention, so we'll just feed Carny-boy to her"
>Ben literally says he wanted to save Alex for Cole
Based
I sure do love shitty meme matchups.
>Alex vs Cole
>Shitty meme matchup
Thank you for exposing your terrible taste, let's see you post some better MU's though.
Carnage vs Alex
>Exposes his bad taste TWICE
Alex is for Cole, no capeshit MU is going to change that.
>ALEX SHOULD FIGHT COLE!!!
>Why?
>UHHH BECAUSE THEIR GAMES RELEASED AROUND THE SAME TIME ONCE!
>Oh, do they share any other similarities?
>Uhhhh um....
You moron. They're both the catalysts for major viruses within their world, resulting in a plague that shuts the city they reside in off from the rest of the world, they ended this plague by giving up their own lives. Cole and Alex only have zero connections to morons who shut their brain off.
>They're both the catalysts for major viruses
The Plague was a radiation born illness that resulted from the Ray Sphere going off. Calling it a "virus" is disingenuous at best. And it's nowhere near as central to the plot as the Blacklight Virus is to Prototype.
As I said, they were kind of memed on for both being open world sandboxes featuring super powered protagonists released around the same time. That's where the similarities end and any sort of "rivalry" quickly dissipated as the two franchises were completely different (that includes the original games).
Also DMC and GoW don't have a rivalry, mostly since GoWgays don't play other action games.
>The Plague was a radiation born illness that resulted from the Ray Sphere going off.
And that somehow goes against the fact that Cole was the cause of a massive plague which was only stopped by sacrificing his own life, like Alex, how exactly?
>>And it's nowhere near as central to the plot as the Blacklight Virus is to Prototype.
The Ray Sphere is the fricking center of the plot in InFamous, are you moronic or have you just never played the game? You're trying so hard to get your capeshit MU and it ain't happening because Ben has some level of intelligence when it comes to fights people want, unlike you of course.
Thank God you're not on the team, we'd be having ten times as many capeshit matchups than we already do now.
>Ben has some level of intelligence
Yeah I can really see that from matches like Gaara vs Toph.
The guy knows what people want at times at least, I'll give him that much praise.
He still should've done Korra vs Delsin though
It's also a Mario VS Sonic, Street Fighter VS Mortal Kombat, Devil May Cry VS God of War kind of thing, if I'm not mistaken.
>Street Fighter VS Mortal Kombat
>Mortal Kombat
*confused*
Why?
Counterpoint: He is Black
>Street Fighter VS Mortal Kombat
>Mortal Kombat
>*confused*
>Why?
Not only is it a tripgay, but it's also a moronic zoomer.
Fricking christ.
>Z-zoomer
Do gringos really?
I'll admit this is more of a US thing, but it is one of the only "major" fighting game series that Street Fighter hasn't crossed over with yet. They've done it with SNK and Namco already, and Guilty Gear and BlazBlue are more compared to each other or, if to a CAPCOM fighter at all, Darkstalkers.
Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat were also considered the "Big Two" of American arcades back in the 90s, at least as far as fighting games were concerned.
>but it is one of the only "major" fighting game series that Street Fighter hasn't crossed over with yet
I see now
But aren't there characters that would have been a better fit for either of them? Hell that one chick from deadman wonderland would have been a fight for Lucy and there's literally thousands of shape shifters to throw at Carnage
>We wanted Lucy and her show to get attention.
How pathetic. Of all the shows and media Ben could have stanned for, he picked Elfen Lied and Bucky O' Hare.
Also, they low-key admitted they got this one wrong with recent spider-people calcs. Cletus would smoke her in the runback.
You know what I want.
Arthur-eena needs to take the BEB. The Big Ebon Blade.
Too easy. Slavs are a race of self-defeating winos. What kind of race stockpiles nukes and then forgets where they put them?
She's more of an actual King Arthur than many interpretations. Which is hilarious.
Could Otto defeat the entire Russian Federation?
Otto worships Superman. Superman was defeated and raped by slavs. You tell me
anon even regular Russian shutters are above even the SCP verse, the Russian Federation would rape him
Which gameshow host do you root for?
Chris is an insane, durable maniac who shits on people capable of surviving volcanic eruptions. He would throw JUNK-O in the trash and enslave the entire Dangrapoobah universe.
Chris. The only way Monokuma would win is if he brought his army of himself to bear (ha), and I don't know if that'd be allowed or not.
Which universe do you want to see fraudchecked?
Fraudcheck by this point is just this thread's term for "I want to see DC eviscerate anyone who's rated above street level".
But anyways, I wanna see Giorno get buttfricked even with GER. Maybe have Alucard from Castlevania do it.
How does Alucard counter ger?
castlevaniawank baybee
>castlevaniawank
Heh, I remember several page long flame wars about whether Castlevania Dracula was a universe buster or street tier, because there really was no middle ground. so many characters are like that...
>Dracula's episode heavily implied they believed Universal Castlevania but needed to heavily lowball Dracula in order to make it seem fair
You don't even need Alucard for that.
In a Jojo Battle Royale, Gappy should be able to threaten/beat GER due to the fact that his attacks literally do not exist with Go Beyond and thus GER can't do shit to them.
>Go Beyond
I've read some moronic shit in my time. I've read Suggsverse omnipotent drivel, SCP set theory drivel, capeshit referencing scientific terms, and somehow JoJo past the world ending is still the most moronic thing I've ever read in my entire life. How does Araki keep doing it? He must have a negative IQ or something, which is probably a Stand power by now, reduces your IQ to below 0 so you think the opposite of what you'd be thinking now
I honestly think he expected someone to stop him by this point, so he just writes whatever he wants
Lightning Larry being able to counter Armor Suit Arnold doesn't suddenly make him stronger than Arnold against different situations
>Fushigaro loses to Aki
>Nobura dies brutally against Power
>Panda loses against Chopper
>Sukuna and Itadori loses against Denji and Pochita
>JJKgays STILL jerk Gojo off despite all of this
I just need to see Makima, Urahara or Law murder that gray haired fricker. I don't even care that Makima vs Gojo is a shit fight, at least it'll make the fans shut up.
>Law, a guy with notorious stamina restrains
>Murdering a guy that creates infinite space
Law would fricking die of aids cancer if he ever tried to create room in the same space Gojo is in.
Law could easily create a room with Gojo inside of it, that thing is as passive as the air we breathe. Once he's in it he can use any one of his fifty different instawins, like swapping Gojo's soul with a nearby frog, or just carving out his heart.
>Law could easily create a room with Gojo inside of it
No, no he cannot. Law can't extend his room to infinity.
>He doesn't know
Law's doesn't even need to rely on room when he has KROOM. It would automatically bypass Gojo's infinity since its purpose is to go through defenses and attack from within.
Aki has Kon and the Curse Devil contracted, both of which would murder Fushi since he's a ragdoll who only actually does shit once his ass is beaten, which is stupid against an opponent who has one-shots. There's also the fact that you can give him the Gun Devil and that alone would turn him into paste.
Kon, the fox? He killed the bat devil I guess. He was pretty useless everytime after that
The Gun Devil isn't even him, it's just his corpse so he wouldn't get it
TFD only pisses off cause Aki kept making him eat nasty shit like the Leech Devil and Reze, against something like Fushigaro's assortment of party animals he should have no trouble devouring.
Curse and Future Devil are Aki's real wincons. Curse can very easily get rid of most enemies after three stabs, add that with the FD's future sight and Fushi will end up getting turned into a pincushion.
I'll take your word for it,
>Law's doesn't even need to rely on room when he has KROOM. It would automatically bypass Gojo's infinity
Prove that claim. Because Gojo has full control of his surroundings
Having full control over your surroundings won't save you from KREWM or Anesthesia. Room itself is a neutral zone, it's not an attack nor is it meant to harm, so why would Gojo's infinity even pick it up and defend against it?
Law doesn’t need to touch you to operate.
JJK is one of those series where people uberwank one character and ignore everyone else.
To be fair, Gojo is on a completely different level than most of the characters in that universe. If you had to wank off a character it'd be him.
loses to Aki
Does he? I only watched the anime but it looked like Fushiguro could handle himself better and it looked like he was due for a shonen powerup later down the line
I want naruto to OBLITERATE aang. Put him in absolute desperation, facing an opponent who can kill him at any moment but doesn't want to. 3 mins of naruto playing with his food
seeing Guts get btfo would be funny. Especially against Clare.
>Especially against Clare.
God, I would make a shrine dedicated to Swan if he allowed this to pass.
Frick Berserk. Claymore deserves this publicity so maybe they look at it and decide to revive the show.
Why do people hate Guts and Berserk again? Genuine question.
First, they BStted a win against Nightmare, and I fricking love Soul Calibur, so I took it at heart.
Second, Berserk doesn't need any help, and Claymore clearly does. I want Claymore to be revived like everything else seems to be. So I can see the true ending in the anime.
Third, the salt it would produce would be enough to turn the great lakes into seas.
True, there would be massive salt if Guts died to a woman. It's a quantity over quality issue. Guts dying gives you more salt, but Clare dying gives you more bitter salt. It's the Ben 10 factor where if Claire dies, that's it, there's never going to be another Claymore fight and she'll be known like Ben as a character that showed up just to die.
The Lord they God wants nothing to do with Predditors.
>True, there would be massive salt if Guts died to a woman
Same reason Dante vs Bayonetta was rigged in favor of the former. Erza, Bayo, and Claire do deserve to beat Zoro, Dante, and Guts. But they are probably afraid of another Lara vs Nathan and Thor vs WW situation. It's hard to tell when a woman can get away with killing a more popular male figure. Lucy is more of an exception, rather than the rule.
The issue with Clare is that if she already ties at least with Guts using her awakened form, with her Teresa power-up she vaporizes Guts. Anime Clare is around Guts's level, but manga Clare stomps.
How does Erza beat Zoro?
I mean , back then the stats were low as frick for both characters. She can't beat him with current DB stats, no.
She loses back then too
>Erza
>Rigged
Wano Zoro does her even worse if we're doing this
Thor vs Wonder Woman and Nathan vs Lara came AFTER Bayonetta vs Dante dumbass. Same with Ezra vs Zoro (which Zoro wins anyways). Did you do any kind of research before spouting this shit? You also somehow forgot about Captain Marvel vs Shazam, which should've been a win for CM based on your logic.
bayogay is a moron
just ignore him
I do agree with him. It's hard to argue in favor of Dante nowadays. His threats and verse are all way smaller and underwhelming compared to Bayo's. Any idiot can figure out that one.
Made a list of why some Death Battles were wrong, and in Erza's case it was more due to bad timing, similar to Doomguy. If a new rematch with an accurate and updated research were to be done nowadays, Doomguy and Erza would win their fights. They probably thought they were making the right call back then, and didn't imagine that both losers were going to get wanked harder than their opponents after their respective Death Battles.
With Tifa, Bayo, and Gaara it was just them being obstinate to give the more popular underdog the win. Hiei vs Sasuke is another more recent example of this. Well, Tifa's loss was more due to shilling RWBY/RT. That period of Death Battle was pretty bad, considering we also had Bowser vs Ganondorf and Tracer vs Scout following those.
The only fight which I considered wrong from around that period, but that maybe it was right all along, it's Mewtwo vs Shadow. Metwo has been getting wanked in weird ways after that fight. Back then, it was a stomp in Shadow's favor though. Nowadays, not sure who wins.
>Made a list of why some Death Battles were wrong, and in Erza's case it was more due to bad timing, similar to Doomguy. If a new rematch with an accurate and updated research were to be done nowadays, Doomguy and Erza would win their fights
Lol do Erza simps really
I'm guessing you didn't see Erza fighting in the last arc of Fairy Tail nor the 100 year quest. I don't think One Piece will catch up with Fairy Tail's powerlevels. Zoro is definitely way below the main Fairy Tail cast.
>More babble
Acnologia and all those other dragons? Fodder. Would lose to Doflamingo
>No feats
The meteorite and 100 years quests are feats that didn't make it to her Death Battle research. And those are better than anything the current One Piece cast has done.
What are this impressive feats then?
>Desperately downplaying Erza
Sorry One Piece gays, but you are never making it to planetary. Erza stomps with magic and 100 years quest powerscaling. While the Straw Hats crew at best can just beat a dragon dude weaker than Erza's mom.
>Meteor that was going to kill 6 people
How is that a feat exactly?
Also Kaido solos all 5 of those God dragons in base
>Meteor that was going to kill 6 people
hey, hey. careful with such simole comment. Remember a Meteor could kill Batkek, Anti-Monitor, Parallax, Darkseid, Superman and Maldrak at the same time.
do not overgeneralize. it offends me
>Also Kaido solos all 5 of those God dragons in base
No one outside of One Piece gays would ever spout such non-sense. Irene, Acnologia, and others are way above Kaido. You unironically need to be super obsessed and biased for OP to think Kaido isn't a whole level below them and the Fairy Tail cast at its peak. And Kaido is above Zoro, to begin with.
You’re coming in here with meteors said to kill Erza and 5 other people and acting like it’s special. Even Homelander can kill 6 people at once
100 Year Quest? Mountain level
>Meteorite
It was just gonna destroy the area of the guild
City block level
>An attack that was going to kill 6 people
Not even East Blue level
>Implying that Erza cutting the Island Sized Meteor is above Zoro's feats in Wano
Look. Fairy tail, while do having way higher AOE attacks, is not very high on the physical scale, their verse just doesn't work like that. For example, while Selene has enough magical power to enlarge the moon, she got felled by a mountain tier attack. FT's magic power doesn't correlate with physical power
Mountain tier?
Garp uses mountains as punching bags
>Literally talks to himself in his own mental echo chamber
You? Mindbroken.
Ezra? RYONA'D.
Me? Doesn't care.
I don't see any issue with replying to other anons.
Pokemon scaling and lore wank is bullshit, but so are those in Sonic.
Anyway, the issue with Guts vs. Clare is that the former is waaaaaay more popular and recognizable than the latter. I see them giving Guts the W for that and Miura pity alone. If the episode were to happen.
>so are those in Sonic
It's all canon now.
I'm mexican thus I suppose they do if you can afford it.
do your prisons allow internet?
Doesn't FT have Power of Friendship anyway?
Shadow has no protection from psychic attacks. Muh inhibitor rings don't change that fact.
As I said before, it's the only fight which I considered incorrect when it came out, but that nowadays I do think its results may been right all along. The only Death Battle ever I could stand corrected. But this due to Mewtwo's weird powerwank in the post-fight years.
You can argue that just composite Shadow could beat Mewtwo with ease, but standard versions of him do lose against overwanked versions of Mewtwo.
Man you wank Fairy Tail
Your opinion is meaningless
>Man you wank Fairy Tail
And you wank One Piece. The story with non-magic and non-planetart threats.
You don’t need magic
And nothing in Fairy Fail is planetary. You think attacks that kill 6 people are dangerous.
>Lucy was the exception
Not really, because the rule doesn't track for villains, especially villains known to be as rotten as Carnage. No one really cares if a villain dies to a hero.
>Thor vs Wonder Woman
Thor has fans. Wonder Woman doesn't. Simple as. Wonder Woman is the JLA's token diversity hire. No one actually likes her, people are just too scared to say she sucks, has always sucked, and will always suck.
>Mob vs Tatsumaki
The fact that it was ONE fight made it feel very hollow. Like of all the psychics in all of fiction, they couldn't find other matches? They also couldn't have made Tatsumaki more of a heel if they tried. How the hell are people supposed to feel about the responsible grade schooler psychic dying to a haughty b***h? It's like if they had Carol kill Billy.
>Lara Croft vs Nathan
Because Uncharted has fans, Tomb Raider doesn't. It coasts by on bygone name recognition. The series is as dead and dated as a series can get.
And everyone knows they wanted to have Lara kill Indy but KNEW they'd eat so much shit if they did that, so Nathan showing up in his place reinforced the "Indy at home" stigma Uncharted has.
>has always sucked
Wonder Woman had a large following back when she was culturally relevant thanks to her television show.
The issue is that writers had no fricking idea what to do with her.
>Implying Thor doesn't suck, unlike WW
Outside of Ragnarok, his movies and comics aren't that good. And Ragnarok is just for those who love comedies without drama, stakes, tension, and serious scenes.
Wonder Woman comics are dogshit and Diana herself has some multiple personality disorder depending on the title she appears in. At least with Thor he's male. Only males can look heroic and cool, and most Thor fans only like him because he's cool; he's white, muscular, he has a long golden mane, he's handsome, the whole drill
>Only males can look heroic and cool, and most Thor fans only like him because he's cool; he's white, muscular, he has a long golden mane, he's handsome, the whole drill
Wonder Woman is what happens when writers are afraid to give her Batman or Superman's interesting neurotic hangups because she's more of a symbol than an actual character. She's a character at constant tension with herself. She professes peace, but is from a culture of warriors who decide their diplomats via trial-by-combat. She claims to speak for universal sisterhood but is from an isolated culture that's been in cultural stasis for thousands of years. She professes the superiority of a culture of Mediterranean polytheists, something even DC finds uncomfortable which is why they slot in as many ethnicities as they can on Paradise Island to true and soothe over the fact she has the sensibilities of a British colonizer talking to black people. She claims women are strong while constantly pointing out they live in man's world, a fact that apparently needs literal divine intervention from a golem woman/demigoddess to change.
She's a fraud, plain and simple, an intolerably boring fraud. Imagine if Superman went around saying "Well, I can't expect Earthling's world to know how to not kill, rape, and steal but maybe one day your descendants can be a little more Kryptonian."
>Not really, because the rule doesn't track for villains, especially villains known to be as rotten as Carnage. No one really cares if a villain dies to a hero.
Never really thought about it that way. You may be right when it comes to that episode.
Regarding the other matches, not sure about your logic. I think Otto is right about the misogyny, because in the end you are still agreeing with him that most Death Battle fans don't like women, and that's why they hate when they beat popular men.
I also predict a shit ton of dislikes if Clare beats Guts, even if that's the accurate outcome. And honestly, it's rare for me to agree with Otto. Kinda hate it.
>Wonder Woman has no fans
Are you this stupid? Did you seriously say that about fricking Wonder Woman of all people?
If it weren't for Wonder Woman vs. Thor, Mob vs. Tatsumaki, and Lara Croft vs. Nathan, I would say that your logic is bullshit.
But to this date, I cannot understand why those fights produced so much salt, despite the winners being obvious.
nobody outside of wonder woman fans thought her victory was obvious, hence the salt from the thor side of things and the misogynists
I love soul calibur too, but you do realise Nightmare isn't very strong and the entire point of Soul Calibur is those with the strongest wills win. Did you forget Nightmare lost to fricking Xianghua?
And take your "help" and protest on twitter you dilating cuckold.
As a RWBYgay I can confirm you that Death Battle doesn't do you favors, especially if you kill a more beloved and mainstream participant, as stated earlier
Yang's match did more damage than favors to RWBY, and Blake's didn't help. While Weiss's Death Battle didn't have any effect at all. Our fandom just likes to make fun of how rigged the Tifa match was, but that's pretty much it. No one ever talks about the other two matches at all. SHAFT and Good Smile has done way more good for RWBY (maybe also Arcsys), than Death Battle ever could.
Nobody hates Berserk. It's just that Guts gets overwanked hard due to his popularity alone, despite him being a very down-to-earth character. Hell, even with his cursed black armor, he isn't that powerful. But that's ironically the selling point of Berserk that many of Guts fanboys miss, that he's just a guy barely above superhuman level that fights big monsters.
>Stanning for Dark Fantasy flavored Saber
Anon.
Anon look at me.
Animu blondes are fleeting.
Deus Vult is eternal.
>Deus Vult
Reddit's that way pal.
>deus vult
How strong is that bloody sword then? Thor should take it and give it to Balder if it's so strong
Clare is for Saber
And no, Dane is for Sir Justin, then back to obscurity
>Clare is for Saber
Clare doesn't have magic.
Doesn't need
If anyone from Berserk deserves a fraudcheck, it's Griffith
Naruto.
The wankers in these threads are getting unbearable. I want their tears.
Just get Amy, Gwen, Eve, Kairi or fricking Korra to run a Death Battle styled train on Sakura. That'd make the Naruto fans happy because frick Sakura, and it'd make everyone else happy because frick Naruto AND Sakura.
I raise Genocyber.
>But Otto what the frick does Genocyber have to do with--
Think about it for a minute.
Genocyber is not even continental
>best feat was large country
>she took hundred years to eradicate most of humanity
>any continent buster would had done so in less than a week
Me? I'm a wanker?
Despite all of it being real and much lesser feats being given a pass by Death Battle themselves.
No one ever debunks my claims and trust me bro, they will be acknowledged. I still remember when peoople were keen on accepting Haku as LS, or databook claims. But Naruto sending his chakra across space and time, from planet to planet, is somewhat not a feat uh?
Shin Megami Tensei.
>Explain further.
No.
Kirby
Marvel/DC but it'll basically never happen
Baki the Grappler
Possibly Kingdom Hearts
Dragon Ball, Sonic, and Ben 10 already got theirs, although Jiren specifically getting squashed would be entertaining enough in this respect.
Idk about you but the prospect of seeing gwen getting mauled by atom eve is funny to say the least
>He thinks Eve beats Gwen, let alone mauls her
Anon you are in for a very rude awakening.
It works as a match well enough, so it could happen. Kevin or Vilgax getting on also seems fine, though I'm not specifically looking for a "fraudcheck" or a squash match there. Ben's was mostly for Alien X.
Gold Experience Requiem
Rick
Gojo
Blazblue
Joker from Persona
Okay, I'll give Rick from Rick and Morty an additional boost, that c**t needs to die violently
>Blazblue
Ragna got blown the frick out by Sol, and the rest of the BB cast has abilities that are as situational as they are incomprehensible.
To be fair though Ragna is pretty middle tier compared to the Blazblue Top Tiers, GG and BB reach about the same ceiling, but GG has a bigger house
They would need to have Nine, Jubei, Izanami, Kokonoe, or Terumi being the one fraud-checked, and even then
>Terumi dies to Ragna 1v1 without muh Suesoohnoo
>Suesoohno backhands the remainder of the cast
So it's pretty much the OP armor that's actually being fraud checked
Get Elric of Melinborne on that. No matter what, babies on the internet cry.
>Ragna beating Terumi
Eh. Ragna basically had to hard nerf Terumi in the blue in order to actually kill him, and even then it still didn't stick due to him surviving off the hair of his balls in Dark War, which is canon but Mori sucks ass with actual budget, thus bye bye Dark War for Now
>Nine
Was beating the shit out of Ragna until she had her sister flashbacks. She has a lot of frickery going on if you really analyze her.
>Izanami
Another Ragna L, but lost to weird Noel shit so hey, guess it's a win
>Hakumen
I'm not even gonna go there, dude killed Ragna so many times it became a fasttrack quest
I admit to being a Blazgay, but I understood why Ragna always gets wanked, I mean he is a Black Beast but there are Multiple Black Beasts in the series, not to mention that he just doesn't have the frickery that other characters have, he's literally a "live to suffer" meme.
I wanna see Rick vs Reed Richards.
https://vsbattles.com/threads/blazblue-ap-revisions-no-more-lowballing.137211/
>Blazblue getting revised to 1-c
>Parallax Sinestro still 2-A
I CAN FRICKING TASTE IT
>VSBattles
>thread is abandoned
>mods seem to disagree
Who would you root for in Joker vs Giorno?
Non street tier DC
I want to see the massive saltfest that the death of a top tier DC character in the hands of a non Marvel character would be.
SCP
>SCP
>Which universe do you want to see fraudchecked?
DC, SMT, GoW, DMC, Kirby, and Jojo. So never ever.
>SMT
>WH 40K fraudchecking a Universe that counters them
lel
>GoW's Kratos vs one of SMT's godslayers
Might actually be kino
Not even verse, but characters.
>Kratos
>Kirby
>Ben 10 (Again)
>Anyone and everyone with Toonforce
>Thor
Kratos already got humbled though.
Pre-turbowank Kratos got his ass kicked. We need a REAL fraudcheck. Like if Asura killed him
Classic Kratos > Nu Kratos
Just pit him against seiya or something
Capeshit "Reality warpers" as a whole. No, you are NOT really reality warpers. You're absolute fricking shit at it and just for your lack of creativity, you deserve to be violently executed for all to see.
A real reality warper is someone who does shit that is by definition fundamentally impossible. Like picrel.
A "reality warper" just needs to rewrite or otherwise break reality, and many capeshit entities can do this
Bitch, most reality warping in capeshit is just "Destroy thing that is abstract."
Give me shit like Galactus emerging from within himself or something
Not necessarily. These guys defy the laws of physics all the time. Galactus has shunted people's perceptions of linear time out of wack just by being there... his literal MO is to convert the life force of planets into energy for his dietary needs, and he has turned matter into energy before, he made the Human Torch's electrons contract, grow to a size dwarfing planets, Galactus himself has just... willed himself back into existence after being destroyed, the Ultimate Nullifier literally erases you from causality, etc. it's a lot more epic than you're making it out to be
Well of course. Anyone that thinks reality warping is just "beat the space man made of stars" hasn't actually read comics, they're just a memester with OCD over some Bendis-tier hack having Sentry or Hyperion punch Galactus. It's myopia. It's tunnel vision. It's a shallow reference pool.
DC
Marvel
Dragon Ball
Ben 10
Saint Seiya
OPM
Jojo
Dark Schneider SOLOES the jojoverse
he's a fricktard who dies to GER, Love Train, or Star Platinum
>street level magic tricks
Goku
This sarada, sakura's daughter
what a little bawd lmfao
Z from tenchi muyo would beat the shit out of Giorno and the rest of the jojoverse
>Tenchi
That's some vintage wank. I thought everyone that thought Tenchi was worth talking about in a vs battle context had died off.
>wank
Tenchi dealt with that black hole. So even by conservative estimates he and other light wing users are above ANYONE in the jojoverse
>goku vs naruto
>sexy jutsu transformed naruto kisses goku and proceeds to sucks out all his energy
>then sends him to space
How would these threads react?
>Naruto is a troony who sucks dick and gets fricked by men in order to make it through life
What did you mean by this?
Dredd should win but Frank probably has some bullshit feat from some obscure comic that would give him the win anyway, because Capeshit is fricking moronic.
Reminder that Azathoth sits at the eternal throne of power level homosexualry and can never be dethroned.
Motherfricker's just at the absolute top. DC, Marvel, SCP, Twin Peaks, VNs, they all come and go, but he's eternal.
Feats?
he sleeps
>Gender: Inapplicable
So it's a troony? Got it.
Only in one extrapolated interpretation coupled with a hyperbolic cosmology not native to Lovecraft's writings
"nuclear chaos" is a metal title
Literally tied with the Bubble Dreamer from Rayman.
>...
What characters should Sonichu be matched with?
Do they have internet in prison?
Quailman
Coldsteel the Hedgeheg
Leave Popeye to me.
>Bobobo
Probably the most powerful Shonen protag in all of fiction.
Have him agaisnt Big Head.
Goku is stronger
feats only Bobobo gets raped
including statements Bobobo rapes because ha ha infinite universes
>including statements
I would. Sometimes statements play a role in Hajike.
I can't believe we have someone actually simping for Erza fricking Scarlet. She has the personality of a bread sandwich. Why? How? What decisions did you make in your life that led you to this point?
>Solos FT
Nothing personal, did it for my Captain
What would be a good match for richard Ryder Nova? I think GL might be a little on the nose, though if they did go that route, I feel like Kyle would be the character with the most similarities in terms of personality
I get the feeling the Marvel character who should fight Kyle is Quasar (Wendell). What about John Stewart? There's always some bullshit like Jaco from DBS
Quasar is for Starman
Kyle gets to fraudcheck Simon
why Starman?
Powers are device-based and analogous. Thematic naming. Jim Starlin
>Powers are device-based and analogous
Kyle's powers come from a device as well
>Thematic naming
who cares about this
>Jim Starlin
damn we missed out on Thanos vs Mongul huh? kek
>no argument
Frick off and cry at somebody else, homosexual
i literally just prefer wendell vs kyle over your east vs west power fantasies
Kyle destroys Quasar no diff, and Quasar vs Starman is not 'east vs west'
Quit fricking crying nothing at me and frick off, homosexual
Thought you said Stardust for a second, which would be far more exciting than your boring ass suggestion.
Next season should ban Marvel vs DC fights, and heavily limit comics in general. Even normalgays are getting sick of it.
Anon, you could always just make a suggestion yourself
That'd be far less boring than crying and being a histrionic b***h because other people have opinions and are able to voice them
Captain Comet. Green Lanterns stomp all over and relentlessly tease Dick Rider
Everyone knows Fairy Tail fans just leech off shonen jump which is why you get idiotic matches like Zeref vs Madara
>Reality warping vs Reality warping
Calling it, stalemate.
Bobobo can create a multiverse
Big head can't die or feel pain.
Yes he can and Bobobo could just get him to remove the mask or bullshit a way to remove it himself
Big Head struggles against a guy who has anti-toon force powers.
One of Bobobo's first enemies was a woman with anti-toon force powers and he still stomped.
no, Bobobo didn't stomp Torpedo Girl in their fight, in fact it was the exact opposite with Torpedo Girl completely stomping everyone throughout the fight even when she was caught off-guard when Bobobo decided to use strategy, she was only taken out when Bobobo nullified her strength and then beat her
could Bobobo's stamp negate The Mask's powers?
I just don't recall how it works
anon Bobobo has fought and defeated other Hajikelists in his series, why would this be a stalemate?
Bobobo is both a popeye like character with reality warping nonesense, as well as a shonen character that constantly gets stronger as the series goes on
Doesn't Bobobo fight and defeat OTHER guys who have crazy toonforce?
He can counteract other people's toonforce, and beat someone who explicitly has the power to negate toonforce entirely.
Torpedo Girl doesn't negate anything, the reason she was overpowered in her fight was because she was far stronger then everyone present but also because she ignored the Hajike acts and went straight for attack
Bobobo doesn't have toonforce
Can't he literally just manifest gags and outcomes if it's funny?
yes but he manifests them with Hajike which is an in-universe power, also no it doesn't have to be funny at all, in fact it can also be sad as Bobobo and other Hajikelists have acted out some sad scenes using Hajike, this is notable in the fight against Don Patch
He has memeforce which is stronger and more insane
Ice Knight vs Fire Knight pls
>giving SLgays another L
Oh no no no no
Is the One Pissgay trying to belitte FT because He couldn't win the debate against Naruto?
>He is still crying over Naruto not having willpower
Hey, I'm not that guy. I don't even like FT.
>Getting your falseflags crossed
>Is the One Pissgay trying to belitte FT because He couldn't win the debate against Naruto?
One Piece gays are kinda infamous for developing an inferiority complex to other popular shounen series that have higher powerlevels than their series (Dragon Ball, Naruto, Saint Seiya, Fairy Tail, etc.). Sunk cost fallacy made them go insane. But in a couple of years they will finally be free, so there's that.
>Fairy Tail wanking
>Muh meteor
Reminds me of when they used a meteor calc to say Dio could beat Alucard
So pathetic
heat miser vs snow miser
Mother Nature comes down and beats the shit out of both of them for acting up again.
Who could they fight? I just want a team vs team fight bros. There's got to be another high fantasy adventuring party to throw at them.
There's Critical Role, I guess. But if you want something actually good, probably Fell's Five or the Dungeon Meshi people. If you want something gross, maybe one of those Jap isekais will have something.
I would say Fell's Five would murder them, but they've fought a 4e version of themselves and won.
>but they've fought a 4e version of themselves and won.
To be fair, that was only with prep time and by abusing 3.5e specific cheese. The first time they fought the 4e crew pretty easily overwhelmed them.
Fell's Five are around level 7 while the OotS are around level 16 at the moment.
Point. I was about to mention that, because I'm more familiar with OotS than Fell's (read two of the more common comics), and I figured maybe the Five had a lot more XP under their belt in later installments.
Op please can you tag your death battle threads so my filter works thanks
Jesus Christ and I thought comicvine had been bad. If this is Cinemaphile now, you should all just kys and stop polluting the web
Don't be silly anon Cinemaphile is a lot worse than just this. If it's not vs autists pushing their general, it's probably a thread full of tumblr immigrants.
.... yeah. God damn I remember how fun was reading Uncanny Avengers with you autismos, but now, eh.
Cinemaphile peaked with "It was ME, Barry!". It's been a death spiral ever since.
I think so too, yeah. I mean, unironic feat-comparing is better than ironic one with sh,it-flinging and homosexuals everwhere.
>enter a Cinemaphile thread
>it's actually Cinemaphile
frick this gray earth
Ironically Cinemaphile doesn't actually give a shit about Death Battle at all. You can occasionally get a Cinemaphile thread going if you really baby it, but the only board that consistently cares about this trash is Cinemaphile.
Ironically, Death Battle is the main reason Jojo needs to get fraudchecked. Absolutely no one outside of Swan/Death Battle wanks that verse that high.
I'm impressed they wanked off Jojo enough for Johnathan to beat Kanjiro. Johnathan is a normal guy who can control his lungs enough specifically to fight vampires. Tanjiro is a master swordsmen with superpowers.
>Tanjiro is a master swordsman with superpowers
Jonathan punched Jack the Ripper so hard he exploded... through a wall by detecting him with a wine glass. JoJo goes beyond bizarre into absurd, where the only rule is that Araki keeps making shit up until it just works.
>where the only rule is that Araki keeps making shit up until it just works
You can really tell his editors just stopped giving a shit into part 3 onwards
Gemini Saga? SOLOES the jojoverse
Indeed
We will eventually get a Homestuck match-up.
The only question is which one.
Lord English vs Superboy Prime, book that shit
>All mighty manchild strawmen created to poke fun at fanboys that weren't happy with the current direction property was going in who were right all along
Sounds fun.
>>All mighty manchild strawmen created to poke fun at fanboys
Is that seriously what they are? Man if DB did that episode it'd probably to just make fun of the regular viewers who shit on their calc numbers and results.
>Is that seriously what they are?
Pretty much, yeah.
It's fricking perfect, and everyone knows it. There's some moronic gay that tried pushing SBP to fight some Marvel nobody, but I'm pretty sure he's learned his lesson. It doesn't even matter who wins: I just want to see the 4th wall shatter like a hymen at a gangbang.
SBP vs Classic Sentry - its literally a "why should I care about this moronic status quo" match lol
Prime is for Sentry, a match that would actually draw dimes
homosexuals
>Prime is for-
Lord English, thank you for agreeing.
Who?
People actually know who Sentry is. Nobody wants some smelly nerd's obscure wank stinking things up
>"NOOOO EVERYTHING HAS TO BE MARVEL VS DC!! FUN ISN'T ALLOWED!"
You're moronic. Also like
said, how many people these days do you think know about Sentry? You're also very fricking dumb if you think no one knows about Homestuck, the pure stupidity of the fight would bring in more views than any MVDC fight this or last season brought in.
Nah, nobody gives any fricks about homosuck, and even mentioning it brings down the quality of discussion to moronic shit-flinging
Prime is for Sentry, and homosuck is for
>Is unable to explain how anyone cares for Sentry in this day and age
I'm glad that you agree Super Boy Prime vs Lord English (DC vs Homestuck) is inevitable, and that Sentry will be thrown in the gutter.
Eh, Sentry can fight Gemini Saga. It's a lot more thematically fitting for him, too. Golden schizos is a pretty decent hook.
That's a pretty good matchup but I don't think they'd get Saint Seiya's power set and power levels very well. They get filtered by way less elaborate stuff like DBZ as it is for chrissakes. I do like that it would perhaps boil down to evil Saga vs the Void, but capeshit scaling means Bob wins
Don't need to explain. It's Marvel. Normies fricking love Marvel to the tune of billions, yearly
Explain how the frick anybody gives a shit about homosuck when it only ever gets mentioned here, and only ironically at that
Explain how homosuck beats a billion-dollar global franchise.
Fricking
Total
moron
KEK
Yeah, normies "love Marvel" so much that they made Scarlet Witches' fight get 2 million views after four months! It's almost as if slapping "Marvel" on your video isn't going to be an instant draw-in for viewers, especially if it's a character no one knows frick all about like Sentry.
>Explain how the frick anybody gives a shit about homosuck when it only ever gets mentioned here, and only ironically at that
For some reason, I feel as though you only browse this website if you believe Homestuck's popularity revolves around this one corner of the Internet.
>Explain how homosuck beats a billion-dollar global franchise.
Probably the same way other fights that weren't Marvel or DC beat out those companies? By being out of the box, entertaining and/or not reliant on literal who characters when it comes to the popular masses?
>Don't need to explain. It's Marvel. Normies fricking love Marvel to the tune of billions, yearly
Ah yes that's right! So is that why SW vs Zatanna did so poorly, despite having a Marvel character in it? Is that why most Marvel/DC fights only do normally or poorly if it's not a legacy MU or has a character from a bigger franchise? I mean shit, Storm vs Korra had freaking Storm in it bro! So it must've gotten like 5 million views at the very least right? And Iron Fist vs Po had Iron Fist! Surely that broke 5 million, and surely it wasn't reliant on the fact that people love kung fu Panda in order to garner majority of the views on that video, right?
You're moronic, and have little to no idea on what people actually want to see, or what people even know of for that matter. Sit down and enjoy Lord English creating a shit flinging contest with SBP.
>autistic screeching
Why? Nobody cares
I do. I'm reading his comment. It's interesting.
You wrote it though. You know full well it says nothing beyond RRREEEEEEEEEEEEE lmao
>So moronly schizophrenic he sees me in every post
I see I've already mindbroken you, anon.
>buzzwordsbuzzwordsbuzzwords
Mindbroken, huh?
>Incapable of forming an argument
>Resorts to buzzing like the fly he is
SIT.
DOWN.
Even if people were upset over Marvel getting hard fricked by DC most of the time, according to the original anon's logic that shouldn't have mattered and should've brought in good views extremely easily, especially since Wanda had her show and movie going on around that time.
Korra vs Storm had no reason to exist, that was just a failsafe because Ben is too much of a pussy to do Korra vs Rey. Had that fight happened it would've done three times the number SvK got, but regardless of that I wanted to point out how not every Marvel vs DC or Marvel/DC fight will instantly bring in numbers, and if it does it's usually due to a bigger or more noticeable franchise like Dragon Ball carrying most of the views, or it's due to the fight being a legacy fight.
I wonder if they would have scaled Rey to EU shit?
Imagine how pissed the general would have been if they did.
Wanda has never drawn a dime. Even her show relies on its heavy connection to MCU
You're just moronic if you equate SW popularity with all of Marvel. But any Marvel fight is easily going to surpass obscure garbage only discussed ironically like homosuck. Anon is a deluded groomed troon if he really believes anyone gives any fricks at all about his favourite homosexual fiction lmao
>Anon is a buzzword buzzword projection buzzword
You also seem to somehow miss the part where I mentioned Po and IF, a fight that relied entirely on KFP's popularity, unless you somehow think that Marvel somehow carried the fights views? Though I doubt you're capable of any kind of thinking higher than "durrr marvle le...popular?"
Sit down, anon.
>But any Marvel fight is easily going to surpass obscure garbage only discussed ironically like homosuck.
May I point you in the direction of the previous fights I've mentioned? The only exception to the points I've made is probably Venom vs Crona, because unless the Soul Eater fandom is waiting in the shadows for their fight, I doubt that majority of the views originated from them.
Anyway. Mother's Milk vs Sugarman, which sweet-based character takes this?
>Mother's Milk vs Sugarman
Man, how the hell did you come up with that one? It works, too. There's some odd symmetry between BNHA and The Boys, weirdly enough. On topic, Sugarman probably scales better even if his personal feats are garbage.
>Man, how the hell did you come up with that one?
Wasn't me, another anon in the previous thread gave me the idea for Boys MU's, like Frenchie vs Solider and pic related. What's the best SM can scale to anyhow? I know that with Sugar Rush he can blast through multiple walls of concrete, but his level of defense is pretty shoddy right? Mother's Milk has enough strength to decapitate people with uppercuts and has guns out the ass in the show.
>SIT DOWN
ONLY ONE, AND NUMBER ONE
>Loses to an photon alien and a jumped-up JSDF
Get this "reality warper" a reality check.
Bullton interacts with reality in fundamentally impossible ways
AKA "any goddamn superpower."
It does shit like emerging from within itself, physically opening up the ground in a perfect circle akin to a fricking cartoon character, becoming a dimension that it also exists inside, and even manipulating cause and effect by forcing the "Effect" somewhere else. It's classified as a 4-D entity for a reason.
>physically opening up the ground in a perfect circle akin to a fricking cartoon character
Oh yeah
Circles in the ground
Big shit
I mean... I guess? But the point is it can just kind of do whatever it wants. It doesn't really have rules or specific applications it has to follow through with. It can erase things, turn back time, manipulate space teleport etc.
Even worse is that it's not even the best reality warper. That goes to Greeza, who literally fricks with reality by just being there. It's basically a walking mass of absolute nothing with no actual "Real" physical characteristics, and the thing we look at is just our brain filling in the blanks. For example, radars don't actually show anything with it. In fact they show nothing, for there is nothing for the radar waves to pass through. Like a giant hole in the radar.
?t=15
Look at this shit.
That's some very bizarre sound direction.
Isn't this one supposed to be a planet buster?
Casually at that. Even worse is that Greeza couldn’t be defeated normally. No, they had to actually trick it into absorbing enough Kaiju that the “hole” became “filled” and they could actually hit it, as it now had a physical existence
Man, I thought you were smarter than this. You really can't tell the difference between directly altering reality at whim and just having a ability that breaks our real world laws of physics?
Is losing to an alien that can create constellations and humans from an iteration of earth with access to planet busting nukes really that shameful?
Otto doesn't even know half of the settings he attempts to "fraudcheck", he 100% doesn't know the first thing about Ultraman beyond "it has kaiju and is Japanese Superman" or some shit.
Otto spent years saying galaxia was just planet level, but his smugness disappeared when an a knowledgeable sailorgay appeared and fraudchecked his claims. He hasn't recovered from it btw
Yep
My theory is that Zatanna vs SW flopped because Marvelgays are just tired of being treated as 2nd to DC by Death Battle. The only two non-street tier matches DC has ever lost are Lobo and Luthor's. Two characters that are mostly famous for being Superman's punching bags.
Korra vs Storm did badly, because it's a match up barely anyone was asking for. While people don't care for Korra, at the same time most aren't obsessed with seeing her die out of spite. They simply just avoid Korra in general. Also, Storm has never been as popular as Deadpool nor Wolverin.
I think Zatanna may have held back the fight in that regard and people are just tired of the constant capeshit spam
Also Hellbat
>Also Hellbat
Hellbat is street tier to me. It cannot even handle Bane.
Bane > Darkseid????
Indirectly, you are going back to what Otto stated. Most of the Death Battle audience doesn't like women, so those matches were cursed to do badly. This includes also Batgirl and Harley's matches.
They either need to break more into the anime/waifus/gacha territory to bait new audiences and break into unexplored territory or... I was gonna say bring videogame girls like Tifa, Chun Li, or Bayo back, but who knows how many of their fans will come back to Death Battle. The sad thing is that the three of them are getting new games, feats, and are still relevant.
Ironically, they went with the outdated webcomic version of Saitama. You know, the one that has Glasses instead of Do-S. So yes, they have used a webcomic in the series.
>They either need to break into the anime/waifus/gacha territory
They could do episodes for Makima, Saber, Lucina, Sailor Moon, any MHA girl, 2B, Reimu/Sakuya...
>but who knows how many of their fans will come back to Death Battle
Not Tifa's, that's for sure, Bayo could use a return but I don't know of any good matchups for her
If it didn't happen in the comics it doesn't count
Toga Himiko is likely fighting Neopolitan, so that's another potential MHA match.
Tifa is fighting Sakura Haruno, I think. No matter Cloud vs Link 2's reception, that match is likely already set in stone to happen.
Sailor Moon is a never ever, because they don't want their channel to end in the shadow realm.
2B who knows. With Raiden dead, I think she's fighting Kiryuin Satsuki or some else. Could also fight Touhou's Youmu, but that's too much of a stomp.
I haven't watched Raiden vs Excalibur to this date. Piece of shit shill episode.
>Toga VS Neo
>More RWBY shill
>Not even Cinder VS Azula or Ruby VS Maka
No thanks
>Tifa VS Sakura is set in stone to happen
Ben said he wanted to bring Tifa back and brought up Sakura so you're right
>Sailor Moon is a never ever
Would they still get btfo if they only talked about the manga?
Don't worry, anon. We are gonna get all those three RWBY shill matches you mentioned. Not just one.
Frick. At least Ruby VS Maka isn't coming anytime soon unless they randomly decide to break their promise
The irony is that that anon hates RWBY, yet he knows how to shorten correctly Neopolitan's nickname.
>2B who knows. With Raiden dead, I think she's fighting Kiryuin Satsuki or some else.
I've seen at least one anon here suggest 2B vs Alita, and Satsuki is for Henry Cooldown.
>I haven't watched Raiden vs Excalibur to this date. Piece of shit shill episode.
Same. I refused to watch it out of principle.
>I've seen at least one anon here suggest 2B vs Alita
I think I'm the only GUNNMgay around here, and I don't recall saying that. I said that? Because Alita vs 2B is way too much of a stomp fight, unless you go for the weaker iterations of Alita. Anything from the original final arc of part 1 to Last Order and the Mars saga is too broken for 2B.
>I think I'm the only GUNNMgay around here, and I don't recall saying that. I said that?
The anon posted a collage of his most wanted that included Loki vs Kefka, Rayquaza vs Bahumut, and Pico vs Hank. SOounless your Most Wanteds include those, it may have been someone else entirely.
What about the Flood vs the Necromorphs?
I'm not into collage autism, so yeah, it appears that was another dude.
I respect DevilArtemis, but 2B vs Raiden would have been also too hard to do for the current Unreal-Blender team, as others have pointed out. I think they are still on the process of rebuilding their 3D team. A sprite match could have also worked, but the issue is that now Raiden cannot be reappear in DB till who knows how many years. I rather have 2B fight another opponent, than waiting that long.
Galaxia one went down because the sailor lost. That wouldn't happen with sailor moon since she's going to fight goku and will likely than not win.
The only MHA character with a chance in hell of showing up is Deku.
I'll tell you a secret--the team doesn't like MHA They fed MHA's hagiographic version of Superman to Adderall Bruce Lee and to soften the sting fed boy who shoots fire to boy who shoots fire and ice.
Unlike other anons, I don't think she's coming back, despite all the shitposting and views she got. As one dude said, even Torrian struggled a lot animating her. Not even he could avoid her bugging out during the fight. Now that she's more insane and broken in mechanics or moves, the current animation team has even less of a chance to do a decent animation with her. With Torrian gone, expect something worse than Shao Kahn vs Akuma.
Are all the good DB animators gone?
>Are all the good DB animators gone?
>good DB animators
You mean just Torrian? Yeah.
There's a reason anons don't look forward anymore for 3D fights. Now more than ever, people are fine with those being limited to house or street tier participants.
We just recognize the presently limited skillset of the primary 3D animators. They could still do great projectile-based fights. I would unironically trust them with something like Dumbledore vs Gandalf, or Magneto vs Accelerator, or VOTOM vs Timber Wolf from Mechwarrior. As long as they don't have to do anything melee, they're still okay.
Torrian leaving is hands down the worst thing that could have happened to this show, even if the sprite fights are sometimes good and the Blender team is alright most of the time
Torrian leaving is the reason some are fine with Raiden dying against Excalibur, because they know that without him, Raiden wasn't going to get a good fight anyway.
Someone said to me that she was deconfirmed from reappearing, because of RT's censorship and political correctness policies, but the guy never shared the source for his claim. Probably a lie.
Although, Death Battle's technical and budget limitations do sound like realistic drawbacks against her comeback. Bayo and Jeanne were possibly HUGE burdens on their resources for season 3 and DBX premieres. You can tell that they never got around a lot of animation issues both suffered from, because in the end they mostly operate on a small indie budget.
My point was that OPM appeared in Death Battle because of the manga (and anime).
Sentry is a literal who, while anyone who has ever been to a convention since 2008 could probably tell you about Homestuck (if only by reputation).
But yeah you're right stagnant big two circlejerks will totally bring in new viewers.
Nothing's 'bringing in new viewers', moron
It's over ten (10) years. Death Battle has their audience
>Nothing's 'bringing in new vieweres', moron
?
Cool you believe that
So they're keeping those numbers going forward, right?
>So they're keeping those numbers going forward, right?
We'll see when the season is over
Oh boy, another MvDC flop
MCU normalgays don't even know who Sentry is.
>Oh boy, another MvDC flop
I think those peaked with Thanos vs Darkseid. Only way a DC match could surpass that one and go viral, would be to have Superman dying to UI Goku, and that's never happening.
>More Marvel vs DC trash
Why would anyone want this?
What's a good matchup for him?
They're perfect together.
Jack Garland, probably.
Match him
Phoenix Jones.
Even Slob era James never sank to the level of pathetic clout chasing and irrelevance NC did. We got to see Doug's dreams die in real time as he tried to kill his Critic persona, make a serious story in Demo Reel, fail, and come crawling back to have Daffy Duck autismo fits for 12 year old clicks.
James is the film maker who cashed out and sold his equipment to a porn studio. Doug is a stripper who left for college, got in debt with a liberal arts degree, and is back on the pole, vacant smile on his face to mask the pain of his intolerable existence as he reviews (insert direct to video cartoon here).
Darkman
AVGN vs Nostalgia Critic. Who wins?
been out of the loop, but James beat Super Mega Death Christ, and I can't think of any real Nostalgia Critic feats outside of screaming and waving a gun around.
I've got a better one.
AVGN vs Amelia Watson
An anon keeps bringing up how James should win because he defeated a somethingversal badguy in the movie, but since I haven't seen the movie so I don't know if this actually makes the Nerd as powerful or if this is just moronic scaling. I've actually seen Nostalgia Critic destroy an entire planet once. Though with that said, the Nerd overall has more combat experience as he gets into fights more often as well as having two video games.
>James beat Super Mega Death Christ
Did he? As far as I remember, SMDC has only ever fought along side Nerd, not against him.
>any real Nostalgia Critic feats outside of screaming and waving a gun around
He survived the implosion of Channel Awesome.
re: smdc
you are right, I forgot.
>Channel Awesome implosion feat
lel.
They've both survived cancel culture; James with Ghostbusters and Doug with Change the Channel (was that what it was called? I forget), but from having skimmed through both "controversies" back when they happened Doug seemed to have it worse. So if nothing else Doug has the edge in durability/endurance.
Would you be interested in an AVGN v NC Death Battle episode where the research is done by the DeathBattle crew but the outcome is decided by James and Doug and the battle is live action?
>but the outcome is decided by James and Doug and the battle is live action?
Sounds sick. I bet they could get both on board too.
>gets named
>DCultists throw a hissy fit and project
?
why is Goku so fricking powerful IRL? Only other character this happens with is Thor in this general
Speaking of Goku, they are releasing the last part of Goku vs Saitama on September 15.
And since you cannot stop talking about Berserk, reminder Guts vs Rosine is releasing on early August.
The Berserkgay is also a Saitamagay, apparently. Small world.
>d-don't...
Shut your pathetic fricking mewling mouth, wienersucker. You're an embarrassment to your prostitute mother
Has Death Battle ever used Webcomic verses? (OPM doesn't count because it has a manga adaption)
Not yet, no.
>This match failed because... le internalized sexism!
Holy shit Cinemaphile is fricking terrible.
You know, this post seems like it's coming from a member of the crew. A tourist of some sort, definitely. I wonder which one it is. I'm betting it's not one of the head honchos, but a member of the research team.
It's literally Otto and the Claymoregay who brought this into the discussion. They aren't tourists.
Has anyone considered Youtube's algorithm and the 'violence against women' angle?
I've yet to see girl fights in my recommends
NOW, we're thinking big brained.
what the hell is "internalized sexism"?
Well, too bad for you. Because women in Death battle are here to stay, no matter the low views.
Cool
Xena vs Red Sonja when?
>Xena vs Red Sonja when?
frick, we are old
>Ryonatards want to keep throwing chicks into blenders despite them getting frick all views
The only chick fights that need to or should happen are Makima vs Bubblegum, 2B vs Raiden and Power vs Noi or Foo Fighters, preferably Noi.
>Power vs Noi
How well-received is Dorohedoro, anyways?
Very, actually. People seem to really love the manga and the netflix adaptation. Personally I'd enjoy Kaiman vs Geto, Toji or Denji but Noi vs Power is a good placeholder.
Makima fans don't even need her to lose for ryona, she literally gets gutted with a chainsaw and turned into lunch meat in her story.
>vs Raiden
Who the frick is willing to wait 4 or more seasons for that match to get another chance at happening?
Anon I and many others have been waiting since season 3 for Alex vs Cole, what do you think the answer to that question will be?
Man, I have been waiting since season 1 for Ghost Rider vs Spawn.
Support Griffith vs Chris Chan. Embrace the madness.
I'd personally pick Ryo since the hawk bastard would be fricking obliterated to the atomic level, but that the hell.
Hulk Hogan would be kino too
Hulkster would also be good.
Ryo has a gun so even if it's human vs human he'd win
>ryo
>666
Oh boy
How is Noi even a good match up for Power? That doesn't make sense. Just because they are the darkhorse characters of two recently popular manga, doesn't justify this at all. Dorohedoro is more of a seinen than a shounen, and it's very down to earth in powerlevels compared to CSM. Noi is barely above a normal human.
>Noi is barely above a normal human.
Have you ever seen or watched Doro? Noi's the last thing you'd want to consider human or even close to it, the chick has more raw strength Shin, and the fricker can decapitate people in seconds like it's nobody's business.
Noi herself can keep her magic going for hours on end, I have no idea where you got the thought that she's anywhere near "normal human" level.
Don't overwank Noi. She's stronger than the average person, but she's nowhere near the level of Denji nor Power. Think even part of the human AOT cast could kill her with normal weapons.
Dude, Power isn't even close to Denji. The best thing we've seen her do is make a Devil go splat with a giant hammer and that's about it. I'm under the impression you've never seen either CSM or Doro if you think Power is that strong and Noi is that weak.
You are on the blacklist now. I don't know what's up with CSM gays suggesting such terrible match ups all the time. You make Juliet vs Denji and Power vs Ruby look good.
lol how are you going to enforce that blacklist anon
filters, duh
Noi vs Power is about as old as Chainsaw Man itself, are you a lobotomite? Whatever the case is, it's not my fault that you know absolutely nothing about the shit you're screeching about.
>He has a blacklist
That alone shows that I win, thanks for the concession homosexual.
Yes, I concede that you are a moron.
>Ryonatards want to keep throwing chicks into blenders despite them getting frick all views
By the way, very foolish of you to assume that I'm into ryona. When the hell did I ever mention that I just want for more girls to appear just to die? I'm fine with Lara stomping on Nathan or WW on Thor. I hated Tifa getting wasted on a shill episode.
Hellbat is just an overglorified tin can.
Took you long enough
Imagine if one of those Dragon Ball, OPM, Berserk, or other fandoms' talented weeb animators decide to do a well-made and hand-drawn Maka vs Ruby, before Death Battle even gets the chance to release a 3D fight of them. NTRing Death Battle and Rooster from Ruby vs Maka would be so cool.
Give me some fights that aren't just guy vs guy, frick.
>Citadel Armada (Turian, Asari, Salarian, Human) vs Covenant Armada never ever
>Flood vs Zerg never ever
Star Fox VS Rogue Squadron?
Most like fight to finally break into ship vs ship combat, but they've been putting it off for ages.
Since Season 3 in fact, see picrel
I only liked the Chibi videos
Bakugo WILL show up and he WILL btfo RT's blonde girl and Stain WILL get Butchered
>Tyranids vs Zerg
>Scourge vs Chaos
>Malazan vs Alera
>Phyrexians vs Bydo
Aren't Tyranids just Zerg but massively better? Also the Scourge just sounds like a Nurgle project so Chaos should stomp
Zerg infestation isn't talked about too much but its almost fricking chaos corruption but biological so its an X factor.
>appeared in one of the lousiest episodes in the series
>one of the most badly portrayed characters in any fight animation
>most likely near the bottom of the list when it comes to characters they'd use again
Goliath might just be the single most wasted character in DB
I feel like Judge Dredd has everything Punisher has, + he has more advance tech + probably has some crazy steroids in his blood.
Why does Otto have so much confidence in the Ebony Blade?
Does he really not know how busted Fate gets?
>Does he really not know how busted Fate gets?
Nope... but neither does Death Battle.
He tends to try and bring up Z listers and go “LOOK IT BETTER”
Like a fricking Neanderthal
it's not a guarantee but it's -possible- they'll scale the ebony blade to multiverse level through Zeus or Thor. I know nothing of Fate (besides spacebattles thinking it's MCU tier) so I don't know if it'll do much
Fate gets absolutely bullshit. I’m no Fate fan, nor do I know about’s lore on more than a slightly below surface level, but it’s insane
In all honesty it is a pretty decent sword
He can recall it even if they’re in completely different eras of time
Black Knight gets multiverse level easy. He would rape Saber and make Shirou raise the kid.
So does Saber.
>WE GONNA GET MULTIVERSE GUYS
Swan would give you universe Saber as a pity. You're not going to get Thor/Vegeta numbers.
Does he scale to Thor’s best?
It's.. weird. Hogun once threw Dane so hard he decapitated one of Set's heads IIRC, and the ebony blade absorbed and redirected a blast from a rather angry Zeus, but Zeus was jobbing in that story. Furthermore, we know a black knight has in fact KO'd Thor with a blast, and that Dane could damage some nega cum manifestation of Knull but that's largely unquantifiable.
Yes. He scales to Zeus who beat Thor.
he does not scale to Zeus, and nitpicky but Zeus did not beat Thor
Why not?
How the hell do you even get 5 digits worth of universes in Fate?
Infinite timelines
Ebony Blade is way too fricking obscure to the point just a pretentious hipster would ever think of him showing up in Death Battle to fight a way more popular Japanese character. I legitimately had to google him, because who the frick knows who he is. It's like those who forcefully want for Luffy to fight Plastic Man. Imagine wasting a famous IP like AOT on... oh, wait.
I mean the sword not the character
>I mean the sword not the character
Who? I don't know who the hell you are talking about? See, I'm not even pretending. And you want to waste a big new IP on a match most would skip... again?
>Googling Ebony Blade
Dude, you just don't get it. Most TMgays couldnt care less about Death Battle. Nobody cared for the Rin vs Naruto's Sakura fiasco. To us, Death Battle are just a bunch of filthy quaternary gaijins. We are super elistic as hell. If you don't give us at least Ufotable animation, you are trash. Hell, not even some of us are satisfied with Ufotable.
Rooster Teeth is in such a bad position, the only anime studio they managed to get for their RWBY anime, is the one that made the worst Fate entry ever. The highest peak RT has ever reached, is TM's lowest point.
You're a bunch of gacha slaves, you aren't even human beings.
I don’t even play Grand Order. I just read the story
Noted. We will give you a 2D fight animation done by me, I mean, Ben himself. Hope you like it!
200k views, and that's all you are getting.
I'd believe you if you didn't post here.
I am keeping an eye on Cinemaphile posts in general, not just this thread. Dropping right now on this board due to the San Diego's Comic Con announcements.
Still kind of sounds like you care though.
It sounds dumb to propose Fate in Death Battle. As dumb as a Black Panther movie without Black Panther, but gotta have a sequel.
>Most TMgays couldnt care less about Death Battle
Is Cinemaphile most TMgays? Most fanbases don't care about Death Battle that much except capeshit/DBSbros
>Nobody cared for the Rin VS Naruto's Sakura fiasco.
Because no one gives a frick about DBX in general and the animation sucked, I'd say it did well for DBX standards
>We are super elistic as hell. If you don't give us at least Ufotable animation, you are trash. Hell, not even some of us are satisfied with Ufotable.
acknowledging that you're a fanatical puritan homosexual absolves you of nothing, weebtroony
>This character scales to this character’s best feats even if they got their asses shitstomped!
This is infuriating, is it not?
More infuriating is when someone scales the weaker character for "fighting" someone strong even when the strong character was holding back or even sometimes not trying to fight at all.
Star vs Steven in a nutshell
I remembered the guy who the research team stole info from, and went to read his completed blog. Interesting stuff. And a jackass in the comments trying to tell the dude who researched Sun on an academic level that he's wrong about Sun being vulnerable to fire.
https://journeytothewestresearch.com/2022/06/18/hercules-vs-sun-wukong-death-battle-analysis/#comment-3739
I think I've seen this style of comment in these threads. Might be a research team member.
He lost all credibility when he slept with otto
>"Interesting. But that’s just the novels. One has to take the live action TV adaptations and also the Chinese animated series into consideration too. Death Battle is known to composite characters after all."
lmao
>I think I've seen this style of comment in these threads. Might be a research team member.
What makes you say that? Wouldn't a research team member agree with him?
How fast do you need to be to create an afterimage? Even a slight one
Not as fast as one might imagine at first glance, implying that the afterimage is created by pure speed and only that you just need to be faster than the eye can see (which is 50 m/s +) to create one afterimage the speed can vary depending on how complex and how many the afterimages are but rarely they are used in calcs because nothing can be confirmed except that the character doing it is faster than a cheetah which is not so impressive in these debates
Wave your hand in front of your face real fast
Could Pennywise vs Nyarlathotep be a good match?
>Japs become extinct because the president of the United States pushes makima into another version of her
If you think about it most makima match ups japan gets fricked
I'm going to murder whoever made such a shit matchup, they deserve it for creating this abomination.
They are in your walls anon
could someone who only exists in one timeline and outstats Valentine stalemate the guy for all eternity?
Tooru works better for Makima if we talk about her vs JoJo villains would Japan die off because of his calamity?
Everyone pairs Reed with Plastic Man, but you know what might be a better match up?
Reed vs Rick. Optimistic science deus ex machina man with a relatively healthy family life (so far as comics allow) vs cynical science deus ex machina man with a family he's constantly fricking up.
How would this fight go?
Kat's a cool character to get on DB but I wouldn't want Cole to be wasted on her. His MU is Alex Mercer.
>le epic released around the same time once meme fight