Why and how does a second season tank a show so bad?
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Why and how does a second season tank a show so bad?
Why and how does a second season tank a show so bad?
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What happened?
Apparently every anon is blaming the fact picrel is in lesbians with some fatty instead of Molly.
Anon think for second. If they have gone with that, her season 3 would be just as shorted as Owl House. Why the frick do you want a Lumity Copycat?!
Would they still even have a season 3?
>her season 3 would be just as shorted as Owl House
As opposed to nonexistent like it is now?
shes a lesbian now?
trans lesbian
Suddenly feeling relieved that I never watched this show
>frogposter is a gullible moron who believes whatever he's told
Every time.
she's not trans moron
Ah yes yet another show where the rival character becomes a dyke
Wake me up when this meme ends
Primos
>trans
fake
cis lesbian cononically. Might be bi.
>ah yes
back to your safe space redtard.
she's essentially a lesbian now, they won't give her a boyfriend out of fear
what is this, a japanese idol agency?
lol
she's a streamer
>Dyke-worshipper calling anyone a Redditgay
pussy enjoyers are my people.
if you aren't down with people who enjoy pussy, you can suck a dick.
>t. knows everything he thinks he knows about lesbians from pornhub
I wanna see art of future!Andrea making out with future!Alina. Preferably with them naked.
I'm gonna ride or die with Andrea x Molly
They have 2 episodes together max
Andrea is queer, sweetheart.
That means she's not fully lesbian or so, it's just means she has inclination to be in the lgbt comunity, but she's not lesbian.
Schizos exaggerating as always
I will admit Chens are boring and Jinx is mid. Everything about Scratch in S2 is great.
By introducing uninteresting plotlines. The Chens are boring, Jinx as the main villain sounds boring, Scratch being the new chairman hasn't been interesting and the Megastore was used for one episode where it wasn't even the focus. The only thing I'm kinda interested in is Scratch's past. Season 2 just doesn't have the same magic as Season 1 for me.
S1 wasn't that good either
>The only thing I'm kinda interested in is Scratch's past
They fumble that too later on
>The Chens are boring, Jinx as the main villain sounds boring, Scratch being the new chairman hasn't been interesting
They could have made those work but they all ended up being lame
>Mollygays get cucked
>lmao why so serious bro, this is no big deal, she's just a cartoon
>Andreagays get cucked
>THIS IS LITERALLY WHITE GENOCIDE THIS SHOW IS GARBAGE NOW!!!!!!!!!!
Something something stones and glass houses
Why did you even like Andrea in the first place
>rich alpha b***h
>streamer
>femboy
>cool design
rare combo
That's trixie lulamoon
Autistic b***h
Genderbend male love interest
Making a character a dyke
Having repeated plots on like 4 episodes
Introducing some "lore" just to leave it on the sideline untilt he very end
>Having repeated plots on like 4 episodes
Which ones?
There's a bunch of episodes where molly is trying hard to do something for her fmaily or friends, overworks herself and fricks up, and then the other characters are like "Oh, Molly, we didn't knew you tried so hard!"
I don't think the second season "tanked" the show but its clear something was missing all together that prevented this show from being a solid hit. It had all the right ingredients, but was never brought together correctly.
Biggest problem right out the gate is that they took fricking forever to get season 1 airing, and then finished writing season 2 by the time the show was first airing. This is why Bald and Bankrupt keep saying "Maybe in season 3" to all the cool ideas fans wanted. They were never given time to read their audience until it was too late. I can't blame them for not foreseeing someone like Tammy being a breakout character for instance, or the huge popularity of Molly/Libby/Andrea as a friendship trio, but if they had been given a little time, they at least might've had her reappear in the Turnipball episode instead of snubbing her completely.
This show also made some really pointless status quo changes around the season 1-2 transition, that ultimately hurt the show. After a string of relatively top tier episodes late in season 1, they killed the chairman (without really building him up sufficiently to even justify his killing, the ghost council did most of the evil shit) and then immediately at the start of season 2 introduce the Chens, who despite being ghost hunters aren't at all really competent or threatening, Ollie's romance with Molly is forced, poorly written, and makes Molly look shallow. Scratch's past is the only interesting bread crumb they really have right now but the leaked episode "Many Faces of Scratch" didn't reveal jack shit. There is also a frickton of recycled material, outfits, and episodes where they never leave the house, which points to budget issues.
If I have to point to blame, I'd say two showrunners (plus the Pedo House b***h) is a case of too many cooks.
dude weed lmao
You rang?
what
You're right.
>Spoiler
Holy shit, I am so fricking mad right now.
Know your place. You lost the fight fair and square
This show is even more boring than TGAMM season 2 is. I'm not getting this forced meme where people act like it's a super good or dominant show.
>entire movie where she just runs around naked
>people act like its UWU wholesome
>UWU
you mean uwu.
Why the frick does your keyboard have gigantism?
>hildabros gloating about Frida Season 1
You can dab on TGAMM, we all can, but bro, get some perspective. The series should have ended at Mountain King.
>Zoom out and you see you Christ pointing at them with disappointment.
What's gonna happen in that episode?
I'm just in this for the high IQ tribe. Here's to seeing Leah get some dick in her life.
Hildacuck, your show is boring trash with shitty music
The irony that Hilda won in the end while Molly got cucked, had her show get denied a third season even after all the begging from her creators, and will forever be rotting in the Disney Vault for all eternity never to be used again
>will forever be rotting in the Disney Vault for all eternity never to be used again
This would happen even if she was successful.
nit picking but - the Disney Vault is reserved for pre-VHS theatrical releases. It's a closed club and there are no new additions. Back when theaters were the only way to see movies and cable didn't exist, Disney would periodically re-release their movies every 5 to 7 years, so that all kids could have them as part of their childhood.
I think the last movie in the non-VHS theatrical vault was the Aristocrats.
This implies that the Kim Possible porn vault was all a lie.
The Disney Vault and the Disney Porn Vault are two different things.
It's following the book, how can they frick that up.
add black girl OC
Playing devil's advocate here, but it is worth mentioning that they've officially run out of books and the third season is going to be entirely original.
>tfw Hilda and Molly both have god awful finales back-to-back that we will be discussing for years to come
How awful could Molly's finale be at this point?
Wraith ending. There's a chance Hilda will have a good finale but Molly is fricked either way
Doesn't the Many Lives of Scratch disprove that?
Bill said there’s going to be an episode about how Scratch died
There's one possible answer that begins with the letter T.
Good shows don't need to advertise and shill themselves in other show's threads. They will get an audience organically like TGAMM did. I feel like despite the superiority act by Hildagays, deep down they know their show is just a different type of mediocre, yet TGAMM was still able to attract drawfriends and other content makers, while no one gives a shit about Hilda besides ryona gays. That and even with a third season, their gimped runtime still won't come close to Molly's.
>yet TGAMM was still able to attract drawfriends and other content makers
it's cute how you think other threads don't have more than this ghostshow does
Got tired of necrobumping the Hilda thread?
Remember it got revealed that Hildagays used bots to try and cheat the Miss Cinemaphile tournament. Once their bots were taken away, the characters stopped even making the nominations kek
>Remember it got revealed that Hildagays used bots to try and cheat the Miss Cinemaphile tournament.
Storytime!?
I'm no Hildagay or tribegay but you're just mad coping if you think Hilda's popularity isn't organic or that nobody cares about Hilda.
>he says, as this thread hits page 10 with 44 posters
I need more doomsday prepper conspiracy Libby.
Season 2 really doesn't know what it wants to be. Even in season 1 the show already couldn't stand on its own as a comedy and was held together by points like the misery meter, Molly's developing friendships, and how Libby and Andrea's characters change but all that's gone now thanks to continuity.
The plot points supposed to replace those like Molly's boyfriend, Bizmart shaking up Brighton, and Scratch's backstory aren't at all relevant in most episodes: Ollie isn't appearing in the Christmas special, everything Bizmart will happen off screen, and we've had only two Scratch lorebait episodes so far so why even watch? What exactly is the hook that to keep people watching?
>Ollie isn't appearing in the Christmas special
Christmas special was meant to air like eight episodes ago so that doesn't really matter
there don't seem to be any antagonists. the council was killed off and now its just 1 mean ghost sometimes. the bully character became her friend and the supposed ghost hunters suck at ghost hunting. Everyone is Molly's friend now, so she can't even cry about being a loser and have dreams of popularity. Reminds me of Watamote, with both just turning into lesbian baiting for views.
>the council was killed off
No they weren't, they're just sort of still around and still buttholes but everybody's mostly cool with them.
I don't really mind if the hunters suck at their jobs, it just would have been better if they had more regular appearances trying to ruin Molly and Scratch's day like Crocker from FOP.
exactly. they needed more elements to antagonize Molly, rather than just not doing anything and nothing happening.
Somehow, I don't see it. They're supposed to be nice, but just so happen to be ghost racists.
He did nothing wrong
Shows usually tank at season 3 for me, but I have felt far less joy this season of Molly McGee.
My pet theory is that it's almost always bloat. Successful shows attract people who chase success, rather than create it. So ideas and visions become diluted and manipulated by latecomers who want to remold things to their liking.
rather than seeking to remold things, there are also those who seek stagnation. the show is initially successful, so they don't want to change anything, such as progress a plot or develop characters, so they can stretch it for as long as possible. some shows can get away with that if their status quo and premise are at a solid place to create endless entertaining but pointless plots. Molly McGee was not, and suffers for it.
Which rivalry was better
>Amphibia vs Owl House
>Hilda vs Molly
I don't even get the Hilda and Molly rivalry, the shows are almost nothing alike and aren't even on the same channel/streaming service. At least the Hilda and Reggie rivalry sort of made sense with them both being Netflix things and the forced Rei/Asuka comparisons.
Hilda
>good comic book series that ended when it needed to
>great adaptation with three seasons and a movie
>one of the greatest animated shows of all time that will be remembered for years to come
>created by an artist who didn't shit on his audience and knew what to do
Molly McGee
>mediocre cartoon that happens to have cute girls
>two seasons of being relevant before being sent to Disney's vault of forgotten characters
>irrelevant to animation history and is just quirky brown girl DTVA cartoon #3
>created by yes men who constantly begged for a third season only to be rejected and humiliated
One is everything that can go right for a show, while the other is what happens when you forget to write your story halfway through. Not going with the Molly/Libby/Andrea trio bite them hard in the ass
hilda gays like to force themselves into a tribe war despite the fact that their show will never be famous outside of Cinemaphile as frog and owl
Molly will always just be the 3rd wheel of the Owl vs Frog rivalry. Too late to join them, too early to fight Hailey's on it.
it would be pointless to ship her with Molly if she didn't have a big throbbing wiener to mating press McGee with
as long as Disney can shit out 2 seasons, they don't care. I guess the ESG money covers the costs so they aren't losing anything.
>ESG
What's this?
It was a financial incentive program for progressive Environmental, Social and Governance causes that recently shut down
Is it a real thing or just a meme?
real
It's real.
>was
Please for the love of God let that be accurate.
Yeah, but some people are spreading around that the money's drying up. Don't know if that's true or just a false flag.
>that recently shut down
Wait, really? I have trouble believing that but if that's true that would be a nice surprise.
It hasn't shut down but investors are backing out like mad because it's a proven failure at this point.
While that isn't as good as it would have been had it actually been shut down, that investors are pulling out feels like a prelude to it being shut down which would be great. Or at the very least a sign of it's waning power.
Everything is poorly executed and lacks energy. The show is flaccid.
Molly McGee was always a weird show that didn’t really have its premise done correctly. I felt the ghosts were never the fandoms interest but it couldn’t really handle the slice of life well either
and somehow season 2 made the premise even worse.
>the ghosts were never the fandoms interest
the showrunners could've at least tried to make them care
honestly it was already looking bad in s1 when it had shed 50% of its premiere viewership by the season finale
Wasn’t really a hook for viewers
> no lorehomosexualry for loregays
> no shiphomosexualry for shipgays
What was the shows purpose? Who was it for? It felt like the fandom was fine with it just being about Molly, Libby, and Andrea having adventures and Molly trying to fit in but this jsut felt meandering and lost somewhere along the way. A really aimless and directionless show that just went nowhere.
>a show needs to appeal to lore or shipping to be successful
If you genuinely believe this then you’re part of the problem with modern media
I’m not saying it needs it to be successful you moron, I’m saying this is what draws in fans. Loregays and shipgays were drawn to Molly McGee for this reason. Now let me say it slowly again so you can understand this you mongoloid, it didn’t need to be a ship/loreshit show, but it needed something else to keep these viewers who thought it would be that. But Molly McGee had nothing to offer it’s audiences who left from boredom and lack of interest after awhile.
The show presented itself as a wacky comedy and thats what it is. It’s not forced to appeal to people who expect it to be something it’s not. You have a pretty autistic perspective on this entire show.
>The show presented itself as a wacky comedy
it sucked as a wacky comedy, maybe it's just a bad show
>it sucked as a wacky comedy
Then say it's not funny rather than make all these insane ramblings. You'll live longer.
morons
>t. TGAMM Ambassador
It’s biggest flaw is that some episodes miss the mark on the comedy, but that’s far from the worse thing that can happen to a show. People are oddly obsessed with this show in particular due to their fanfics and ships being “ruined”.
The leaked episodes were good too, seems like the second half of S2 will be better than the first. The opposite of S1.
>thousands of horror movies with rich girl/pretty girl protagonists to parody
>thousands of movies about horror comedies and adventure stories involving ghosts
>tons of movies involving found footage sequences they could've easily used to make episodes with Andrea as a streamer
>do nothing with the concept
>just make her a dyke instead with a fat self-insert OC, have episodes about periods, and celebrating the culture of israelites
At its core it just wasn’t a show built on the premise of ghosts or spooky/horror. The ghost stuff felt poorly integrated and its fandom was a mix of owl House/gravity falls gays who were chasing the loreshit and shipping and weren’t interested after too long. Basically the creators made a show with no identity and purpose, with a fandom split between sub groups who all wanted different things they never got. A show for no one, with no purpose or reason to exist
Loreshit has ruined your brain
he's not even saying it needs to be loreshit or whatever, but that's what the show is trying to do very half assedly. Bald and Bankrupt should've just made a formulaic monster of the week series but they were too fricking moronic
Are you actually moronic? Or do you read what I say and then deliberately interpret what I say incorrectly to call me a moron for things I didn’t say? Fricking morons.
Thank you anon, you are not moronic, you are intelligent and articulated what I meant to say more succinctly. As a show Molly McGee was very mediocre. It was spread across multiple directions without really being good at any of them, so viewers didn’t have an reason to stay.
Honesty if the show was about Andrea being mollys ghost I think would’ve liked it a lot more. It would’ve actually been a little darker and maybe you could do more with the ghost stuff
At least we'd get a backstory and why she'd stick around Brighton
If I had to rewrite the show, I'd honestly make Andrea the protagonist.
Companies only greenlit shows with protagonists that fit certain archetypes
Why?
Molly should have legit accidentally killed Andrea in episode 1 and the show would be Andrea as the Ghost haunting Molly
yfw "The End" still ends on a sequel hook for a season 3 that will never happen
I'm honestly surprised I've never seen it grow in popularity. I figured people would watch it just for Dana Synder alone but I guess it just never caught on. I'm sad Amphibia gets 3 seasons (yes, I know it was planned for 3) and Molly only gets two.
>love Molly in the first season
>S2 it just was kind of okay, still liked it
>now it's a slog and I want it to end
They could've just went the horror route and done so many things, but didn't, well at least it gave us Libby and Ollie, both of which I'd utterly destroy in the sack.
I don't know, you tell me.
Like all these Disney shows as of late, they set up a simple classic cartoon idea, le whacky girl and ghost adventures in this case, but try to make it more that, end up airing what should be the finale early and then have no direction on where to go from there.
This is a show that actually needed to have the status quo to function.
They didn't take this from you because they never gave it to you in the first place.
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Here’s the leaked episode
What show is this?
Your mom’s dick
Very funny hahaha. Can you tell me the name of the show?
You don’t spoonfeed morons, you let them die off
You should spoonfeed me
No.
It's a good idea
It’s not
It is
Is not
The name of this show has been mentioned multiple times in this fricking thread you braindead pile of shit.
I did not see it as I was scrolling. What's the name? I'll check how where I missed it.
Read the thread, moron.
I clicked the pictures and read some of the words that were around them, didn't find the name.
Fricking moron.
Ok, found the name. The show is called Andrea. Thanks for nothing.
Took you long enough.
They should've added a plot about the original Andrea haunting current Andrea as a ghost.
That’s going to be the plot for the Amphibia sequel
As someone that loved the first season, I just feel S2 is just lacking in a few ways. It's not terrible, but it just seems a hodge-podge of ideas that they couldn't fit into S1. I really just don't care about the Chens or Jinx.
It seems they made S1 with the possible expectation that there might not be any more, so all the big story lines (Molly being accepted in Brighton, Scratch no longer being bound to Molly, the Chairman being defeated) were taken care of there. S2 seems more like, "Okay, now what?" It makes me skeptical how good a hypothetical S3 would even have been.
Don't mind the typo by the way.
I don't see the appeal of a rich alpha b***h girl that is a vtuber.